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Title: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 18, 2011, 11:35:10 PM
Does HRT effect posture and composure?

This question comes on a hunch. I've been comparing pictures of not only myself, but of others on the board on how people take pics of themselves in the mirror. There's something that screams "female" from not only the eyes, but the shoulder and elbow positioning, overall posture, the smile (or even lack thereof) in those that have been on HRT for any length of time. Compared to those on the boards (or even my old pics of myself), much of the time it seems I can tell that somebody is pre-HRT simply by looking at these features. In fact, I have even tried to mimic how I posed pre-HRT and simply couldn't pose in a masculine factor. In fact, it's like a 180. I went from not being able to pose effeminately, to not being able to pose the same way I used to pose!

Has anybody else noticed this, or am I the only one?
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Dana_H on December 19, 2011, 01:00:32 AM
Well, I'm still pre-HRT, but my spouse tells me that my posture, composer, and overall attitude become much more feminine when I'm not having to present as male. Apparently, I just have to throw on my Hello Kitty tee and kittykat pajama bottoms and my entire demeanor becomes more "girly". If I go all out with a skirt, nice blouse, prosthetics, extra-close shave, and some makeup, the change is even more noticeable.

I think psychology can make just as much difference as HRT for things like this.
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: lilacwoman on December 19, 2011, 02:31:16 AM
I subscribe to the N&R theory that HRT will soften up the male skeleton connections and cause a more feminine look.
Add to that a slow move away from stereotypical male activities and physical effort adn things will loosen up.
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: stldrmgrl on December 19, 2011, 12:27:59 PM

;D

< Do you think I've begun HRT? (no cheating)


Regardless, I agree with you that composure, posture and body language most definitely plays a huge part in an overall aspect.

I have noticed it as well, yes.
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 19, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
Quote from: stldrmgrl on December 19, 2011, 12:27:59 PM
;D

< Do you think I've begun HRT? (no cheating)


Regardless, I agree with you that composure, posture and body language most definitely plays a huge part in an overall aspect.

I have noticed it as well, yes.

MOST GIRLS DON'T POSE SIDEWAYS! lol jk...
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: stldrmgrl on December 19, 2011, 10:46:19 PM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 19, 2011, 10:22:26 PM
MOST GIRLS DON'T POSE SIDEWAYS! lol jk...

:laugh: The pic was actually taken upside down; I flipped it to the side because that's where it looked best lol.
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 20, 2011, 12:01:04 AM
It's creative :) Very original, love it!!
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: stldrmgrl on December 20, 2011, 12:16:21 AM
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Tyler on December 21, 2011, 04:25:00 AM
Now that you have mentioned yes I have. I'm only on Spiro right now, but my eyes seem different.
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Catherine Sarah on December 21, 2011, 11:14:39 AM
Once I put a skirt or dress on, posture and composure become 100% full on. Hands, arms and feet all toe the line. Even to a slight tilt of the head.

With pants on in boy mode the posture and composure drops to about 80%. Feet still go into closed fourth position, due to ballet dancing for 10 years.

I await with bated breath to see what HRT will do in that department. But I'm not expecting much development there, as my posture and composure has always been very feminine. Particularly the way I sit. Many a comment has been made over the years by different people, as to my mannerisms.

Be safe, well and happy
Lotsa huggs
Catherine
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: AbraCadabra on December 21, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
Honey, this SOUNDS very nice how you put it - but it is ALSO very self-conscious, and that becomes a lot of work in the long run. Believe me.

Next, - if it is second nature to you then you will hardly notice what's actually going on - so my own experience too.
There are of course pretty wrong ways to sit as a female, not being lady-like, as in spreading legs open gypsy-style, and e.g. putting an ankle on one's other knee, putting one's arms behind one's head, or showing your underarm 'situation' – 'more betta' it be waxed, eh. Etc. etc.

My point is that these things better be/come second nature, lest we look like some awesome version of a trans-diesel-dyke, not so many of us aspire to.

Will hormones help? In the right regimen I think they will help - again my own learning.
Yet, once you are 'there' you will get less and less self conscious, AND NOT easily slip up into some unbecoming posture or composure mode - i.e. you will actually have acquired some female grace, and how nice it will be :-)

Now good luck with it,
Axélle
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 21, 2011, 05:23:57 PM
Quote from: Axélle on December 21, 2011, 11:32:57 AM
Honey, this SOUNDS very nice how you put it - but it is ALSO very self-conscious, and that becomes a lot of work in the long run. Believe me.

Next, - if it is second nature to you then you will hardly notice what's actually going on - so my own experience too.
There are of course pretty wrong ways to sit as a female, not being lady-like, as in spreading legs open gypsy-style, and e.g. putting an ankle on one's other knee, putting one's arms behind one's head, or showing your underarm 'situation' – 'more betta' it be waxed, eh. Etc. etc.

My point is that these things better be/come second nature, lest we look like some awesome version of a trans-diesel-dyke, not so many of us aspire to.

Will hormones help? In the right regimen I think they will help - again my own learning.
Yet, once you are 'there' you will get less and less self conscious, AND NOT easily slip up into some unbecoming posture or composure mode - i.e. you will actually have acquired some female grace, and how nice it will be :-)

Now good luck with it,
Axélle

I'm not even self conscious about it! I've just noticed my pictures lately showing me as having a more feminine posture. Then I went back and looked at some of my old photos pre HRT (some as late as 2 - 4 months prior to HRT) and tried to mimic the poses, and I STILL had a feminine posture. It's like.. I went from somebody who couldn't pose like like a girl, to somebody who couldn't pose as a boy!
Title: Re: Posture and Composure.
Post by: AbraCadabra on December 21, 2011, 10:09:53 PM
Hah, seems then you there already - and after 4 month HRT.... :-) glad for you.
What one should call a natural femme talent.

Enjoy,
Axélle