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Transgender Woman Beats New York Subway Rider For Calling Her A Man

Posted: 12/27/11 12:32 PM ET


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A violent video, said to be of a transgender woman kicking and beating a man in a New York subway station after he made a disparaging remark about her identity, is making the LGBT blogosphere rounds.


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Trans Woman Beats Subway Rider for Calling Her a Man: VIDEO

12/27/2011

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A video posted to YouTube shows a trans woman pursuing and then kicking and beating a man after he reportedly made a remark about her gender.

Writes the uploader of the video, titled 'TOSSED LIKE A RAG DOLL FOR TRYING IT!!!': "Morning after xmas on the nyc subway train, me and my girlfriends was walking to the train, dude shouted out 'thats a man' to my home girl and this is what happens when u disrespect a ->-bleeped-<- in public".



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Tuesday, December 27, 2011
I Repeat: Trans Don't Mean Punk

http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2011/12/i-repeat-trans-dont-mean-punk.html (http://transgriot.blogspot.com/2011/12/i-repeat-trans-dont-mean-punk.html)

How many times have I warned you cispeople not to frack with transpeople?   It's not a good idea to get someone pissed off at you who not only has a little more strength than the average cis female, but is an estrogen based lifeform to boot. 

You also don't know how much bull feces that transperson may have gone through just trying to get through her day.

Damnit I wanna watch the video.

Thank You,

SandraJane, News Staff :)

Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on December 29, 2011, 05:15:06 AM
Damnit I wanna watch the video.

Me too! You Tube unfortunately has removed it per their policy on violence (remember when kids would post "fight" videos at school on You Tube).

I'm trying to disapprove but I just don't. People shouldn't think they can get away with insulting someone for no reason, that just sickens me.

Beaten on the subway.....sounds fare to me! Hugs, Devlyn

No, not the right thing to do...but not everyone does the right thing...on both sides.

I understand how delicate this issue is, and how hard it is to talk about with the proper amount of tact and diplomacy, and I know we all need to take the high road...but holy hell. I am so proud of this woman. I don't want to know anything that might make me less so. I'm biased and reactive, yes, but stronger and happier for the thought that somebody was able to do more than just steel themselves and take it.

DAMN! I missed the video, it has now been removed by YouTube. If just I could have strength and guts like that blond sister, I'd smash off the faces of everyone on the streets in my country.  >:-) I just feared public-persecution that a mob of people gang against me cos in my country they ALL hate trans to death. And I have suffered in silence for SO LONG till now I am finally peacefully living in Europe with angel people of Spain, not with animals like there was in my country.

Europeans and Americans are so lucky cos what you face in public is NOTHING of what I use to face in conservative and retard countries as where I was before I was granted Asylum. There should be an OFFICIAL laws that prohibits public slurs towards trans like there is here in Spain.

Me I'm fed up of the 'straight extremists' and no time to pity them anymore, I go for 'A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH' now!   >:-)

Quote from: Happy Girl on December 29, 2011, 06:53:59 AM
There should be an OFFICIAL laws that prohibits public slurs towards trans like there is here in Spain.

Me I'm fed up of the 'straight extremists' and no time to pity them anymore, I go for 'A TOOTH FOR A TOOTH' now!   >:-)

There should be laws protecting all people from harassment for living as their conscience dictates. That includes their appearance.

It seems sad and frankly illogical, that our lawmakers opt for a piecemeal approach, offering defence to one group at a time. No-one should have to live in fear.

Hard to believe youtube have deleted it, there's loads of fight stuff on youtube, why should this clip be deleted. Maybe they're doing it for the sake of the guy being attacked, I'd imagine his ego took more of a bashing than he did. It wouldn't be a good thing for a "guy" to get beaten up by anyone in heels and make up. High5 to the transgender attacker  ;D

Wed Dec 28, 2011 at 06:25 AM PST
Video of transwoman defending her honor removed as "shocking, disgusting"

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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/28/1049377/-Video-of-transwoman-defending-her-honor-removed-as-shocking,-disgusting (http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/12/28/1049377/-Video-of-transwoman-defending-her-honor-removed-as-shocking,-disgusting)

I am not a lover of violence.  Although I will watch television programs like Bones and CSI which often show the results of violence, I go out of my way to avoid it and have been vocal in trying to stop it.

But when I saw a youtube yesterday of a rude bigot getting his comeuppance at the hands of a transwoman in the New York subway I found myself agreeing with Monica Roberts of TransGriot.

That video's awesome! i found it edgy and scary but it was for the best that she took that little ->-bleeped-<-s dignity away.

so there is an advantage to being full grown before starting HRT.  :)

That's what he gets! Yeah! Maybe others will think twice now, before insulting.

Quote from: Devlyn on December 29, 2011, 06:01:05 AM
Beaten on the subway.....sounds fare to me! Hugs, Devlyn

Oh god I just got this joke. ::)

->-bleeped-<- Kicks This Guys Ass! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89M7G-5rKEk#)

That was nothing she just threw him around like a ragdoll, lolz

She looks like an awesome woman ;D

She clearly humiliated the silly boy though.

The downside is now that the woman's face has appeared, she might be positively identified leading to some multi trillion dollar lawsuit or other.

Quote from: Felix on December 29, 2011, 06:43:02 AMI know we all need to take the high road.

I actually don't... Why do we have to take the moral high ground? don't know about you but I never claimed to be a hero or a martyr hell I've given up even trying to be a nice person why should I or any of us allow injustice after injustice to be wrought upon us for things beyond our control?

Wheather we antagonise bigots like that man or not they still hate us... doing nothing like were told to won't change anything because his hateful opinion is considered as valid as a rational one, if enough pepole agree with you Spite and Malice become the law and thus the notion of justice.

So given the state of affairs why shouldn't we take what's rightfully ours and feel anger and hate that was given to us by those who tormented us?

I don't think violence helps anything. And like spacial said, that woman could face serious repercussions. That bigot doesn't understand and perhaps taking the high road and setting a good example would go a lot farther to educate people like him.

Jennifer

Quote from: Jennifer on December 30, 2011, 01:08:00 PM
I don't think violence helps anything. And like spacial said, that woman could face serious repercussions. That bigot doesn't understand and perhaps taking the high road and setting a good example would go a lot farther to educate people like him.

Jennifer

It was more emotional violence which is more than excepted in western society. It's expected. She didn't hurt the guy. She humiliated him.  ;D ;)

She won't get repercussions for that. She could have picked him up by the throat and choked him with his feet dangling like Darth Vader did to that guy. Anyone can see from that video that she's merciful. He'd get laughed out of court.

So given the state of affairs why shouldn't we take what's rightfully ours and feel anger and hate that was given to us by those who tormented us?

Because if might makes right, then sooner or later everyone is wrong.

Quote from: tekla on December 30, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
So given the state of affairs why shouldn't we take what's rightfully ours and feel anger and hate that was given to us by those who tormented us?

Because if might makes right, then sooner or later everyone is wrong.

Well said Tekla.
And I think from the evidence the police could arrest her and charge her with assault and battery. And the silly boy could file a civil lawsuit and sue her for injuries, like, say, a back injury which is hard to disprove. 

Jennifer

Felix, you have to watch me like a hawk. If you blink, you miss it! Hugs, Devlyn

Quote from: tekla on December 30, 2011, 03:14:50 PM
......if might makes right, then sooner or later everyone is wrong.

And looks like it was that guys turn  ;D

Quote from: Jennifer on December 30, 2011, 03:27:50 PM
Well said Tekla.
And I think from the evidence the police could arrest her and charge her with assault and battery. And the silly boy could file a civil lawsuit and sue her for injuries, like, say, a back injury which is hard to disprove. 

Jennifer

Ah Jennnifer? How will they even find her?Assaulting someone's perfectly legal, as long as they don't know you. ;)

A BIG THANKS to FIONABELL for posting the video of "->-bleeped-<- Kicks This Guy's Ass", and to FELIX for merging the video into this article thread. ;) Although violence begets violence, it goes to show how less than intelligent "that guy" was for opening his mouth in the first place. He still didn't learn his lesson after the attacker's friends  stepped in to keep her from dishing out more of it.

Oh...notice there doesn't appear to be anyone interceding other than the other T-Girls?

Quote from: fionabell on December 30, 2011, 04:01:22 PM
Ah Jennnifer? How will they even find her?Assaulting someone's perfectly legal, as long as they don't know you. ;)

It's not legal in my country.
Thank you for posting the video and have a safe and Happy New Year! :icon_flower:

Jennifer 

Whoa!!! It's lucky for mouthy boy the friends were there to intervene rather than joining in  8)  Angry girl looked like she was about to mess up his day
big time

Lucky for him, the most that got hurt was his pride

Defending yourself or others is one thing but I'm a bit conflicted on how I feel about someone going on the offensive over a mouthy comment

  That's called "clocking the clocker" or "cleaning the clocker's clock".  I didn't like the violence at all, but if someone physically touches me to mean violence, I would fight back.  Otherwise I would not bother with the little twerp with the Napoleonic complex.  The taunter should of known not to tease someone much larger than him.  Reminds me of a skinny bully in a NZ school taunting the class big fat kid.  The kid being taunted finally got enough of that and picked up the taunter and body slammed him to the ground.  YouTube may have removed that video.  Law of physics!   
  Joelene

I'm a bit conflicted on how I feel about someone going on the offensive over a mouthy comment

The law however is not so conflicted.  Either one.

The Law of the Jungle sez that this, like the bully video, or the one where the old Marine Vet goes all Iwo Jima on some cheep bus pimp - hey, you shouldn't let you mouth write a check your ass can't cover.  And no doubt Mister Mouth there does this all the frickin' time.  Bet me he's in line for an ass kicking two - three, times a day.  Easy.  So he's not doing this as a one-off.  And those people, like the bully, or the bus pimp, or Mister Mouth, well it can be damn refreshing to see karma catching up with them and running them over.

The legal law however, while making an exception for a few things that are considered so egregiousness that they warrant it, basicaly sez that no utterances are provoction for battery.  Which is legal talk for 'no one can say anything to you that is so 'wrong' that you get the right to hit them because they said it.'

And, like this video (and so many others) prove it that you have a pretty high likelihood of being on camera in any public urban setting anymore.  And the Gangster Handbook lists "not doing anything illegal in front of a camera" as a high priority for any aspiring gangster.   

That pretty much exactly describes the conflict going on in my mind  :)  Thank you

Hadn't really thought about the gangta stuff though, but that's a good point

I was impressed the way that she retained her femininity all through the assault.

She really did it in a girly way. She's like a giant woman though so it had far more of an effect then when a woman normally does that.

To my mind, she's not someone who is used to being violent. She was not vicious about it but girly.

Very passable feminine rage. Top marks.

Quote from: SandraJane on December 30, 2011, 04:47:43 PM
A BIG THANKS to FIONABELL for posting the video of "->-bleeped-<- Kicks This Guy's Ass", and to FELIX for merging the video into this article thread. ;) Although violence begets violence, it goes to show how less than intelligent "that guy" was for opening his mouth in the first place. He still didn't learn his lesson after the attacker's friends  stepped in to keep her from dishing out more of it.

Oh...notice there doesn't appear to be anyone interceding other than the other T-Girls?

Just want to point out that Z's dailykos article had the video too. :)

Quote from: Felix on December 30, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Just want to point out that Z's dailykos article had the video too. :)

Z probably didn't get mention because Z is the news admin.  :)   But yeah, the vid. plays better on the link Z provided (at least it did on my machine)

Quote from: V M on December 30, 2011, 10:46:32 PM
 

Z probably didn't get mention because Z is the news admin.  :)   But yeah, the vid. plays better on the link Z provided (at least it did on my machine)

Not that way at all V M, Z posted that Daily Kos article on a different thread after I posted the the original 3 articles here on this thread.

Quote from: Felix on December 30, 2011, 10:34:00 PM
Just want to point out that Z's dailykos article had the video too. :)

Same as above. And to make things even more confusing...the Huffington Post article links to YouTube and the following message;

This video has been removed as a violation of YouTube's policy on shocking and disgusting content.....yet the link Fionabell posted is a YouTube link that still has the video active. And the Daily Kos link is to another site altogether...LIVE VIRAL VIDEO...

So I want to thank all involved here for providing links to this "shocking and disgusting" video...FIONABELL, ZYTHYRA, FELIX, LIVE VIRAL VIDEO and YOUTUBE! :laugh:

Here's another "shocking and disgusting" video for your viewing pleasure from YouTube;

->-bleeped-<- Fight on Haight St (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=3D8JUjJ0QgI#)

:laugh:

Oh, my. XD