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Title: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 20, 2012, 07:28:01 AM
Hello,

First off I wanted to say Hi,  I'm 27 now and I have spent the last 17 years miserable and in denial of who I really am. I've been through major ups and downs and bottomed out again a month ago and have resorted to self harm.  I am so sick and tired of pretending to be happy when I have never been.

Basically I taken the first steps of calling around, I tried Sherbourne and they told me to call back in March to see if I could get on a waiting list as they aren't taking anyone at this time.  What I got from that conversation was even once March comes I'll be waiting even longer.

I sent a couple of e-mails off to a few therapists that deal with gender issues.  (I could only find 2 outside of Sherbourne but I'm assuming there has to be more than that here)

I also just started looking into online sessions as an alternative but I would prefer someone in person.

If anyone could point me in a good direction here that would be great.  I thought there might be a couple people here from Toronto.

I think that's it for now, 

Thanks for any help
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on January 20, 2012, 11:17:06 AM
I'd suggest contacting the 519: http://www.the519.org/ (http://www.the519.org/) and asking them to refer you to someone.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 20, 2012, 12:28:16 PM
Quote from: Sarah7 on January 20, 2012, 11:17:06 AM
I'd suggest contacting the 519: http://www.the519.org/ (http://www.the519.org/) and asking them to refer you to someone.

Thank you, I didn't see that one, I will contact them later today.  It's much appreciated.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 20, 2012, 03:15:11 PM
Just got off the phone with them.  I was referred internally to their own therapist I believe as it said the appointments are held there. 

I left all my information and they've said it's about a 4 month wait list :(

Going to keep that one active and keep seeing if I can find a private therapist in the mean time. 

Thanks again.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on January 20, 2012, 04:09:24 PM
Ouch, sorry. :(

I ran across this hunting around online:

http://www.rrconsulting.ca/docs/RRConsulting_TransPositivePsychotherapistsPsychologistsPsychiatrists_2012.pdf (http://www.rrconsulting.ca/docs/RRConsulting_TransPositivePsychotherapistsPsychologistsPsychiatrists_2012.pdf)

It's a list of trans positive mental health care professionals in Canada, and it's current. It's put together by a guy in Toronto, so it has quite a lot of TO entries. Might be of use in tracking down someone who has space for you.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 20, 2012, 08:30:35 PM
Oh wow, that list is huge and there's a pile of them within 30 minutes of me.  Thank you soooooo much.  I thought I did a pile of searching and I could only come up with 2.  I knew I was doing something wrong.

Thanks again! I have a busy day tomorrow calling around now :)

Here's hoping for some good news.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on January 20, 2012, 10:32:08 PM
Welcome! :)

Let me know how it works out.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 20, 2012, 10:59:09 PM
Will do, I'll keep you in the loop :) I emailed a couple of the ones that had e-mail addresses/sites near me and I'm going to start calling like mad tomorrow and Monday.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on January 21, 2012, 06:33:16 PM
  Have my first appointment on the 30th near my house.  I'm excited and terrified at the same time haha.

Thanks again.  Made my week by far :)
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on January 21, 2012, 07:13:43 PM
Awesome!

Walking in to that first appointment was the scariest thing I've ever done. But it was so ->-bleeped-<-ing worth it. ;D

Best of luck.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on February 02, 2012, 02:19:15 PM
Well, I have to say.

It's much worse in your head of all the things you can think of and process until you get there...  Once you get there it feels like a huge weight was lifted after talking for the first 10 minutes.

It's funny how holding stuff in can do so much damage to yourself and you don't even think about it.  I look back at all the years I spent angry and hating myself and wonder why I was so scared to act.

Letting out what i've been holding for so long and what no one knows, even my closest friends didn't know was probably the greatest feeling I've ever had

Obviously the first appointment was a huge success hahaha...

Should be interesting :)

Only regret now is I didn't do this 10 years ago haha...
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on February 02, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
Quote from: rj3784 on February 02, 2012, 02:19:15 PM
Only regret now is I didn't do this 10 years ago haha...

Oh man, that was exactly how I felt/feel. Doing something about it was soooo much easier than living with it. Still, better now than in another 10 years, huh?
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on February 02, 2012, 10:03:59 PM
Quote from: Sarah7 on February 02, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
Oh man, that was exactly how I felt/feel. Doing something about it was soooo much easier than living with it. Still, better now than in another 10 years, huh?

Yep, you're 100% right, it's definately better now than in another 10.  I don't think I could do another 10tt.  I've been miserable for far too long and I believe everyone deserves some sort of happiness in their life and I haven't had much of that in the 27 years I've been around.

I've always told people I'd be gone by the time I was 30 and it's true.  The version of myself that I hate will be gone or at least going away :)

This week has been the first time I've been happy in as long as I can remember, it's an amazing feeling haha.

I wish there was some way I could thank you other than saying thanks.  The list you gave me has changed my life or at least put me on the road to it.   :D

Thank you again, I truely mean that.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: eli77 on February 03, 2012, 10:58:40 AM
Quote from: rj3784 on February 02, 2012, 10:03:59 PM
I wish there was some way I could thank you other than saying thanks.  The list you gave me has changed my life or at least put me on the road to it.   :D

Thank you again, I truely mean that.

Hey, no worries. I like being useful.

You should totally stick around - there is some useful info on these forums, and even some nice people (not me, I'm a bitch :P).
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on February 03, 2012, 12:05:38 PM
haha we're all bitches in our own ways.  I'm planning on sticking around :) Not going anywhere.  I've browsed the forum quite a bit but i'm just starting to add bits and peices now.

Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: rachl on February 12, 2012, 06:17:57 PM
Quote from: Sarah7 on February 02, 2012, 04:11:41 PM
Oh man, that was exactly how I felt/feel. Doing something about it was soooo much easier than living with it. Still, better now than in another 10 years, huh?

This is exactly how I feel. Sure wish I did it 10 years ago, but I know that unless I do it now, I'll regret it even more 10 years down the line. And, I'm continually trying to convince myself, 29 is still young ;)
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on June 25, 2012, 08:27:45 AM
Figured I'd throw an update in here since it's been a while.

I guess the best way to put it is, ever feel hopeless?

I'm not really with my councillor anymore that I was seeing due to not a lot of free time and the fact that I found out I cannot get a referal letter from her for whatever reason.

I came out to my Dr and it didn't make her uncomfortable but she doesn't know how to handle it and has referred me to CAMH. She wants to see what they will recommend since she doesn't know all the steps to take. I'm okay with that and filled out all the stuff they sent me but what I'm not okay with is the 11 month wait to get in there to see someone.   

She did send me for bloodwork though and my results came back with there being something wrong with my liver since there was an elevated count of enzymes in my blood (re-test in September).  I've been dropping a pile of weight through dieting and exercise so she thinks it could be fatty liver since I was obese.

This all happened in March/April and I've been so busy I was able to put the first few months behind me pretty easy but I feel myself slipping yet again and am finding no joy things I like and went from not sleeping to sleeping way too much and the usual moodyness came back with my family.

Now I am torn on what to do, do I wait it out until 2013 or find another person and start again?

All I can say to all of this is, bleh haha.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: rachl on June 25, 2012, 04:41:30 PM
I'm seeing Dr. Scott Duggan (psychologist). He did some time with the 519, and he's learned a LOT from me. I can recommend him. The long wait with CAMH may be because they may have classified you as an "off the street" person; by that I just mean that you're not going in with a GID diagnosis already.

My CAMH application went in last week, with a GID letter from Scott, changed name, updated gender marker on my ID,  having started HRT with a great doctor, and already being full time. We're hoping that I get fast-tracked.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Jamiep on June 26, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Hi rj3784,

Perhaps you could try starting again through your own GP Doctor. I had been told by SHC about the one year wait as well, that was back in April. I live in Mississauga & a person thought if I didn't want to wait a year, perhaps if I knew a Dr. in my area that might be TG friendly or if my own personal physician Dr. might be open to considering this. I had a visit with her, a very brief time to explain my story. We get along great, communicate well, she is very empathetic & listens to you and she has been marvelous at keeping me healthy. She has set an appointment with an endocrinologist in early August. So will have to wait and see were I go from there. My GP has never had a tg patient before and not knowledgeable of gender issues.

This could be a possibility to try, if you have to start over.
Best wishes on your journey.
Jamie
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: rachl on June 26, 2012, 08:23:43 AM
Quote from: Jamiep on June 26, 2012, 07:58:34 AM
Hi rj3784,

Perhaps you could try starting again through your own GP Doctor. I had been told by SHC about the one year wait as well, that was back in April. I live in Mississauga & a person thought if I didn't want to wait a year, perhaps if I knew a Dr. in my area that might be TG friendly or if my own personal physician Dr. might be open to considering this. I had a visit with her, a very brief time to explain my story. We get along great, communicate well, she is very empathetic & listens to you and she has been marvelous at keeping me healthy. She has set an appointment with an endocrinologist in early August. So will have to wait and see were I go from there. My GP has never had a tg patient before and not knowledgeable of gender issues.

This could be a possibility to try, if you have to start over.
Best wishes on your journey.
Jamie

Jamie, my GP has never had a trans patient either, but she didn't wait for an endocrinologist. She realized how hard it was to find one, and after two months of looking, the earliest appointment was six months. She called a physician at Sherbourne, and used their protocols. They've published detailed protocols, especially on HRT. It means that she's quite the literalist about some things, which has caused delays, and we're going slow on the HRT progression, but we've started without waiting for an endocrinologist. Maybe you can ask her if she's comfortable going that route?

Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on June 26, 2012, 10:14:27 AM
Yea, I'm due back at my Dr again in September because of my liver problem but I'm making another appointment to see her again due to depression. I'm going to bring it all up again as I know it doesn't make her uncomfortable, more of a just, not sure which way to go with it. 

I figure it never hurts to call and ask, I guess it's more or less just frustration as things were going well I thought and than I found out I couldn't get a referral letter from the guy I was dealing with and was just offering suggestions/help to deal with my depression/suicidal thoughts, etc (which helped a lot but there's no closure).  I should have been more specific during the first few appointments of what I was looking for but at that point I was a blithering mess and just wanted to talk.

It just seems like it's always 1 step forward, 2 steps back. 

I'm going to look up Dr Duggan and start calling around again to try my luck at round 2 here.

Also need to try and get my screen name changed here haha, not sure why I picked what I did, guess I thought that was a login and not my screen name.

Thanks again,
Jordan.
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Jamiep on June 26, 2012, 02:44:47 PM
Hi Rachl,

I appreciate your suggestion re my GP. My first appointment with my Doc re tg I did tell her about the SHC & gave her their phone number if she wished to consult with their med staff and I emailed her the link to the web site plus the link to the protocols. Last fall, through my trans friends I met a trans lady, first one I have met that is post srs. I chatted with her just before I saw my physician and she said just tell her to prescribe you hrt. I thought that was a great suggestion. I thought I would have to go through procedures or assessments before that could happen. I am seeing my Doc this thursday, so no harm in asking.

I am really happy for you, as you must be too, that you have started on hrt. All good things to you on your transition.

Thanks

Jamie
Title: Re: Need help in Toronto finding a therapist.
Post by: Choochy on August 10, 2012, 11:17:25 PM
Well, figured I'll throw out another update... got an early birthday present, my recommendation letter, after 4 appointments with a new therapist he was ready to write it.

I keep reading it in disbelief that I finally have the piece I need to step forward.  Happy and scared at the same time because I still have one person very close to me to come out to(wife) before I go back to my GP and figure out the next step.

;D ;D ;D