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Title: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Princess of Hearts on January 21, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Check out how your height compares with the height of 'average' genetic females.  I am 30cm taller than the 'average' woman.   :-\

http://www.calculatorslive.com/Average-Height-For-Women-Calculator.aspx (http://www.calculatorslive.com/Average-Height-For-Women-Calculator.aspx)

The average height for white males is said to be 5'9" which according to this calculator is 12.cm taller than the 'average' genetic woman.

Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Asfsd4214 on January 21, 2012, 08:29:17 PM
Compared to the average for where and when?

People have been getting taller for like, ever.

Need time and place for it to be a valid comparison
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 12:32:05 AM
Quote from: Happy Girl! on January 21, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Check out how your height compares with the height of 'average' genetic females.  I am 30cm taller than the 'average' woman.   :-\

http://www.calculatorslive.com/Average-Height-For-Women-Calculator.aspx (http://www.calculatorslive.com/Average-Height-For-Women-Calculator.aspx)

The average height for white males is said to be 5'9" which according to this calculator is 12.cm taller than the 'average' genetic woman.

I am much taller than the average American genetic female and somewhat taller than the average American male.  I was 6' 0" at one point, but have lost an inch with age (probably compression of the spinal discs and curvature of the spine).

If I can lose the extra weight I am carrying, I'd like to think I would be statuesque  ;)
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 12:34:52 AM
Quote from: Asfsd4214 on January 21, 2012, 08:29:17 PM
Compared to the average for where and when?

People have been getting taller for like, ever.

Need time and place for it to be a valid comparison

That's true.  I remember visiting my parents in London one time, and going to the British Museum in Kensington.  The medieval suits of armor amazed me.  Al those knights were really short.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: AbraCadabra on January 22, 2012, 12:35:49 AM
Nice! I'm 5' 6.5" so one thing that helps - some, just some, he he.

Also I do get close to statuesque when in 5" heels, mind you :-) And I love! heeels.

Axélle
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Cindy on January 22, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
I remember going around the Tower of London and being amazed how short the armour was, and how big a certain section of it was >:-) >:-)
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 01:08:46 AM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 22, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
I remember going around the Tower of London and being amazed how short the armour was, and how big a certain section of it was >:-) >:-)

The codpiece??

(That word always makes me giggle)
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: ValleyGirl on January 22, 2012, 01:34:20 AM
Quote from: Happy Girl! on January 21, 2012, 07:25:31 PM
Check out how your height compares with the height of 'average' genetic females.  I am 30cm taller than the 'average' woman.   :-\


We're in the same boat!  :D My height is a problem, but, I'm not going to let it ruin my life. I'm gonna look awesome when this is all said and done. I will it, and it will be so - anything less is simply unacceptable.

From the website:

QuoteYour height is above the average height for White/European females. The average height for White/European women is 163.7 centimeters and your height is 194.31 centimeters which is 30.61 centimeters more than the average height.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Cindy on January 22, 2012, 01:38:37 AM
Quote from: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 01:08:46 AM
The codpiece??

(That word always makes me giggle)

They sure had some big fish :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I remember one of the suits from I think Henry V, who had a very impressive codpiece, it was a weapon to behold, I'm not sure if he had to prove the fit though >:-) >:-)

Wonder why they are called codpiece?
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: MeghanAndrews on January 22, 2012, 02:12:26 AM
I know we're not ever supposed to use Wikipedia to quote facts, but Wiki DOES have some data on height by country -> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Human_height.)
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Keaira on January 22, 2012, 02:24:17 AM
Your height is above the average height for White American females. The average height for White American women is 164.1 centimeters and your height is 166.37 centimeters which is 2.27 centimeters more than the average height.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Vee on January 22, 2012, 03:45:40 AM
I wonder if average height is what we should be looking and comparing up to. It is after all a really arbitrary measure,and one should remember that it takes into account both the shortest and the tallest people. Shouldn't it be better if we look at a range of heigths that fits a certain percentage of the population. 
The average is  whithin the norms but not "within the norms",and very few people would be actually of the exact average.
It would be interesting to look at the most frequent height, though - it would be much more informative.
For example with my 176cm (don't know how much that is in feet) I am above the average female height of my country, but It is not above the normal height for women here.



nerd alert:
If I remember correctly from my research, the average height in the middle ages was nearly the same as now(few cm's shorter). Then at later times (mostly 18-19th century) it was generally lower.
Those suits of armour in many museums look short, because of the way they are assembled by the curators, which barely reflects the way the armour would sit on a living person.
The codpieces were used as a symbol. In some parts of Europe women did the same thing with their butts.
/nerd alert
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Jamie D on January 22, 2012, 05:36:56 AM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 22, 2012, 01:38:37 AM
They sure had some big fish :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
I remember one of the suits from I think Henry V, who had a very impressive codpiece, it was a weapon to behold, I'm not sure if he had to prove the fit though >:-) >:-)

Wonder why they are called codpiece?

codpiece
1460, "a bagged appendage to the front of the breeches; often conspicuous"
[OED], from O.E. codd "a bag, pouch," in M.E., "testicles."
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: pebbles on January 22, 2012, 07:05:14 AM
well I already know the average Male height in the UK is 5'9 and the average female height to be 5'3

I'm 5'7 partway between the two. Whitch fits with what I see when I go outside. ditto for my shoe size. size 8 rather small for a male but slightly large for a female.
dose bring up the intresting point that before I transtioned I was rather short for a male... Would that mean that had I been born a natal female I'd have been really fricking short? like 5'1 5'2 short my little sisters 5'4 it would be embarrassing to be that short... although I guess it would go with my rather small breast size.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: AbraCadabra on January 22, 2012, 07:13:40 AM
Interesting thought pepples,

being of same ~ height 5' 6.5" and 7 1/2 shoe size, plus large for ladies gloves.

Now my mother was about 5' 1" ... not exactly what I would have liked to replicate either :-)

Axélle
PS: something is alway good for something... even being trans.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: belushka on January 22, 2012, 09:51:50 AM
I am 6'2'' (188cm). And my feet are 12 size M. That's 45-46 in EU.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: JulieC. on January 22, 2012, 11:27:32 AM
I'm 5'5" and growing up as a short male it always sucked but now I love my height.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Julian on January 22, 2012, 11:33:55 AM
I'm 5'10", the height of the average American man. It's a nice height, except when it comes to buying women's pants. :P I don't know where my height comes from, as I believe I only have one blood relative who's taller than me.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: J R D on January 22, 2012, 11:37:13 AM
I'm 5'10" and overall, its not a bad height, I'm taller than a lot, but I can reach stuff they can't and even the guy at the auto parts place admired that, lol. 

Pants can be tough though as it seems that 8 long sells the quickest in jeans at most stores or either they just don't make enough of them.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: Julian on January 22, 2012, 11:46:00 AM
Quote from: J R D on January 22, 2012, 11:37:13 AM
I'm 5'10" and overall, its not a bad height, I'm taller than a lot, but I can reach stuff they can't and even the guy at the auto parts place admired that, lol. 

Pants can be tough though as it seems that 8 long sells the quickest in jeans at most stores or either they just don't make enough of them.

Exactly! Whenever I manage to find pants in 6 or 8 long, I feel obligated to snatch them up because I don't know when I'll be able to find them again. :D same with 30x34 in men's. they don't make enough long skinny pants.
Title: Re: Genetic Female Height
Post by: spacial on January 22, 2012, 12:38:32 PM
Quote from: Cindy James on January 22, 2012, 01:06:56 AM
I remember going around the Tower of London and being amazed how short the armour was, and how big a certain section of it was >:-) >:-)

I recall reading an article which discussed the medieval claims of height and the realities.

As you figured out, most people then were generally much smaller than now. But even more important was that armour was designed as much to give an impression as protect. Some military researches have even suggested that most armour was of little use and some actually hazardous.

The images of Henry VIII for example, generally protray him as a big powerful, dominating man. The reality was probably that he was a bit of a weed, could just as easily have had a weak, ineffectual personality and almost certainly with problem in the trouser department, not to mention genetics.

The article was actually written by a Scot, so that bears remembering. But it does fit in rather well with the realities, rather more than the image of a big, jack the lad. Hit with the ladies. Tough as nails, sort of thing.

Sorry, irrelevant to the subject in hand, but since we do seem to be drifting, my mind went there.

As for female height, I suggest that is only as important as we let it. Far more important from an appearance point of view is the shape of our bottoms and how we stand. If our shoulders are so wide that we need to appear fat to compensate, then so be it.  Added to that, if we forget, as well all tend to do daily, that we each have a perfect right to be here and express ourselves, unharrissed, it can change our impressions of how e look.

Given the number of problem we are going to have to deal with, worrying about being a little overweight hardly seems a priority. After all, when any BMI over about 25 is reckoned to be overweight, then that applies to almost all of us anyway. It does, however, (in the case of the UK), help the NHS to demand more cash. Since they can complain about the numerous problems caused by dealing with overweight people.