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I've been trying to get more serious with trying to learn to tuck properly lately. I basically just use a pair of pantyhose. It seems to hold everything in place, but I have a problem. It can be quite uncomfortable to cross my legs. Is this normal or just something I have to get used to?

I can't really answer your question since I use a different tucking method, but it is a little weird at first moving around while tucked.
After a while it becomes natural to you.

Maybe I just need a better way to tuck. What method do you use?

Trick Tip: Making a Gaff! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjZFhnFFItM#)

It's cheap and very easy to "make".

I might have to try that. Thanks!

There is a method where your testicles are on the front of your abdomen above the pubic bone.  They settle into slight hollows there and once a pair of tight panties are holding them in place, they look a lot like just a female mound.
It's a little awkward to do, cos one can easily slip back out whilst you are doing the other side  :-s
Take your left testicle and work it up inside the skin bag of the scrotum, right up over the outside of the pubic bone and a little to the left and it will sit in a slight hollow there.
Getting the other side up into the same position without the left one slipping back out is fiddly - one of those situations where you could do with a third hand.
Some people then wrap the spare scrotum skin around the penis though I never did.
Once you have them both in place, hold them there with the splayed fingers of one hand, push the penis right down underneath towards your ass and pull your tight elasticky pants up to keep it all in place.
The end result looks pretty good, the testicles aren't uncomfortable and sitting down or crossing legs is much more comfortable cos there's a lot less in between or down below.

If you shave the necessary areas you can use tape to hold everything in place - that means that you can sit to pee and don't have to do the entire tucking again

Yes tape, Look up Surgical Tape.  The papery kind, not the nylon shiny stuff.

If you do it right it can stay up for like 2 days.  You do everything like a gen girl.  And well crossing you legs when you do a good tape tuck is to easy.

I can't support the tape and tuck enough.  $10 gets you enough to tuck about every day for a month.   It's WAY easyer to do then you think.  and you will LOVE how it feels.

I've done the nylon "control top" method, the first time the nylons lasted 4-5 uses...lately they've ripped within hours of putting them on the first time!

Don't know why...nails are trimmed/smooth, gentle when pulling up, etc.

I'm going to try the surgical tape method, see how that works.

Since I learned to tuck, I can't stand to have the dangly bits down there...

I don't quite know why, but I've been reluctant to try anything with tape. I hear good things but I just can't shake thinking that it won't work as well or would feel awkward. I dunno...

I tried tape, the method shown in the video with stockings and I have come back to using simply two pairs of undies instead of all the above.
The guff made out of stocking is only good for the bikini in my opinion as the guff tends to ride up your ass and it is uncomfortable after a while.
I tuck this way:
While standing I spread my lags somewhat apart and push the testis into the body cavity up with my right hand. Then I go with my left from behind and hold them in while with the right middle finger pushing the penis downwards and pulling the scrotal skin up. Then I extend my left hand finger to hold the penis as well in the place and pull my panties up with the right hand. Then I hold the whole package with my right hand over the panties while pulling the left hand out of the panties and securing then easily everything in the place.
This is now my second nature and the whole procedure takes no time at all. It took me a while though to figure out the best way for me but now I don't think about it any more.
I have no real stress going to yoga class in tights or even wearing bikini either. I wear Nordstrom bikini cut underpants as main control and above anything that has medium support.
Once I figured out what brand, size and fabric tension/thickness works I had no longer issues. Stay away from really sexy lose or cheap undies as the main control pair.
You can wear something sexier over the rest that holds everything in the place.

good luck

I forgot to mention. If you can't cross your legs you are probably not tucking the testis all the way up but they sit rather at the entrance of your body cavity. If you have them tucked all the way in sitting cross legged is not a problem but then you have to be aware as you cannot lean with your pelvis against something, like against a chair let's say.
The testis sit on both sides of the pelvis, protected only by the skin really, and you'll get hurt.

I suspect that I'm not finding the cavity properly. I can put them up quite easily, but they don't seem to 'pop' into any recesses...is it supposed to be obvious? How far to the side are they? I simply can't cross my legs tucked...and I can't tell if it's because they're in the right place, or if it's just me.

Quote from: JoeyD on February 27, 2012, 07:46:22 PM
Trick Tip: Making a Gaff! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JjZFhnFFItM#)

It's cheap and very easy to "make".

I knew of this method but had not tried it....

Until tonight! Literally it took me longer to find old boy socks than actually making the gaff. 

As far as results?  It worked awesome.  It can be a little uncomfortable because it was tight. In my case everything is above average in size but this method really hid everything.

Thanks!

Quote from: rachl on February 28, 2012, 11:45:35 PM
I suspect that I'm not finding the cavity properly. I can put them up quite easily, but they don't seem to 'pop' into any recesses...is it supposed to be obvious? How far to the side are they? I simply can't cross my legs tucked...and I can't tell if it's because they're in the right place, or if it's just me.

At least on my body they sit above and to the side of the penis base when tucked in. Maybe about and inch diagonally above and to the side. I can feel them and somewhat see them beside the pelvic bone, which is on front surface of my body, not in between my legs at this point. It looks a little bit like where your ovaries would be, except not as far up or to the side I believe.

In my experience, when I move my legs to sit cross legged and just when I am about to lay them down on the floor, if I feel pain I know the tastes have slid a little downward just to get pinched between the body cavity and the leg. Quick visit to the bathrooms fixes this fortunately.
Although, every body is different so maybe your body has some natural limitations!?

I/we are not talkin about a deep, perfectly testicle-sized space here..... we are saying that there is a SLIGHT depression that you can locate into which discourages it from slipping back over the pelvic bone.
Your testes will still be visible as two bulges, but tight panties will squeeze them down a little and smooth out the contour so that it more resembles a female mound.
- If I had taken a pic in the past I would post it ..... can't do it now cos I'm post-op
Here are diagrams  http://www.crossdressing.pl/main.php?lv1_id=3&lv2_id=47&lv3_id=462&lang=en (http://www.crossdressing.pl/main.php?lv1_id=3&lv2_id=47&lv3_id=462&lang=en)

There are lots of other links if you Google "   ->-bleeped-<-+tucking+picture   "   :)  - including a Rue-Paul video I can't see from outside the USA

..and from "my" forum  (with photos) http://www.transgenderzone.info/library/mtf/transgendertuckingandtaping.htm (http://www.transgenderzone.info/library/mtf/transgendertuckingandtaping.htm)


Are you on decent anti-androgens?  Get the Dr to stick a 3 month depot jab of Decapeptyl in your ass and in a month or so your nuts will be down in size by nearly 50%  ....... of course, your sex-drive will be down to near zero - though once the AA's kick in that doesn't seem to matter much, or didn't to me or others who I personally know.

I've seen the diagrams, etc. It might just be that I have rather thick thighs (I do, because of sports), and this creates a limitation. However, I found crossing my legs while tucked today a lot easier than previously. So...who knows.

Quote from: envie on February 28, 2012, 11:40:58 PM
I forgot to mention. If you can't cross your legs you are probably not tucking the testis all the way up but they sit rather at the entrance of your body cavity. If you have them tucked all the way in sitting cross legged is not a problem but then you have to be aware as you cannot lean with your pelvis against something, like against a chair let's say.
The testis sit on both sides of the pelvis, protected only by the skin really, and you'll get hurt.

It's not really the testes that are the problem for me. When I go to cross my legs, I can end up squeezing and crushing the penis itself sometimes. It makes me question if I'm doing it right or if my hip area is kinda weird (which is a very good possibility).

Hmm, I must be strange then.. I can cross my legs neatly and without pain regardless of whether I'm tucked or not..

Quote from: Renee D on February 29, 2012, 10:25:05 PM
Its weird how people will share that much info about their particular "arrangement" down there, lol.   I now know way more than I ever wanted to about y'alls nethers.   Thanks:/

Well, hey...tucking is all about the nethers! LOL! It's not like we're tucking our toes!

:)

Quote from: Renee DIts weird how people will share that much info about their particular "arrangement" down there, lol.   I now know way more than I ever wanted to about y'alls nethers.   Thanks:/

Well hun, we're just trying to help, sharing general information and our personal experience. 
I'm post-op by 19 months and can barely remember what it felt like to have man-junk at all - but I do remember the problems of dealing with it and the solutions  :)

Maybe my junk is just small but the "double panties" type thing works fine for me.

Tucking is very simple, and very easy. It's not complicated and after a little bit of practice it can remain comfortable.

I hate my "unfortunate equipment", so I stay tucked 24/7, even while sleeping. I am going to post, yet again, my tucking technique. It's from an old thread, but I'll repost it here for you. Hopefully this will help you.

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QuoteI am also Pre-HRT (But not for long). It takes practice. And after a while you'll get used to the fondling and no longer become aroused. It took me a couple of months to get the technique down. But now that I have it down, I can tuck (comfortably) and even get away with wearing a bikini with no bulge in just a matter of seconds. I also stay tucked 24/7, regardless of clothing choice.

For a while I was trying to do it while laying down. Big mistake. By the time you get it all situated, it gets very hard to put on the panties when your lying down. So give up on that method. The method I use I've named "Toilet Tucking", sounds gross but it works really well. I'm sure someone else came up with it before me, but since I discovered it on my own, I am going to take credit for it.

Before I start there are a couple of things to think about. Where you are tucking your testies up into is called the inguinal canal. The testes have a tendency to reascend back up into the inguinal canal when you are very cold or having intense sexual intercourse. While this may happen, it is still very rare. The inguinal canal can shrink slightly, making it harder for the testes to stay in place. After a couple of weeks of moving the testes in and out as well as keeping them in place, it can become far easier to move them in and keep them in.



6-Step "Toilet Tucking" Process

• 1: Sit on the toilet like you normally would to take care of business. Keep your panties just above your knee, and let the "parts" dangle as they may.
• 2: Put your legs firmly together. The "parts" should be squished between your legs. And very little should be visible at this point.
• 3: Stand up. By this point the "parts" should be pretty much tucked between your legs, except with the 2 rocks have not yet reascended into the inguinal canal.
• 4: To get them to reascend, simply wiggle around a little bit and try to push them up with your legs (or thighs). This might hurt the first couple of times, but once you get the technique down, it doesn't hurt anymore.
• 5: After that, pull up the underwear to lock it all in place.
• 6: To allow it to remain comfortable for hours, reach around back (over your butt), and pull the scrotal skin back over your butt (no joke). Perhaps squat a little bit to get a more thorough "pull-through" of the scrotal skin. It's a weird sensation, but you get used to it.

If you don't pull the skin back it may get caught in the underwear, between the underwear and the legs and start to pinch; after a while it can cause some fairly excruciating pain. I wear fairly tight underwear that is designed for a woman exactly my size, so given that I have those annoying extra parts, they are quite tight. You need them a little tight like that to keep it all secure. And if you tuck properly you will absolutely remain comfortable.

Another tip is to not lean on anything from the front. For instance, when I cook dinner, I have a tendency to lean against the counter from my front. And since my "boys" are right there, I end up smashing them in, and it hurts like holy hell. After a while you don't do it anymore and you don't think about it; but if you do start to tuck more frequently keep that in mind.

I've tried all different types of underwear and here is my experience with the different styles as far as Comfort and Function.


Do use:

• Bikini Style

            These are great all around. They hold everything in place, and remain comfortable.

• High Cut Style

            Another fantastic style. Hold everything in place, and because it rides up higher it may help hold the underwear up. The extra pressures from below encourages the underwear to slip down slightly.

• Stretch Cotton

            Make sure you buy any of the above style in stretch cotton, because it holds tight. While in standard cotton the threads tend to stretch and it loses it's ability to hold.



Don't Use:

• Boy Shorts

            While comfortable at first, I found that my parts tend to jiggle out of the sides of the underwear very frequently. I love boy shorts, but I recommend against using them.

• Hipster (Maybe)

            This style may or may not work. They are sort of low, and they may slide down a bit to easy. I don't encourage many people to use these.

• Thongs

            I don't think this really needs explaining. Plus they are just kind of uncomfortable anyway.

• Plain Cotton

            Like I mentioned above. Standard cotton underwear stretches to much, and ends up losing the ability to hold everything secure.


I don't buy underwear in packs. Like if you go to walmart or target and you can buy a 5 pack of hanes underwear. In just a matter of minutes they will stretch and lose the ability to hold everything in place and they'll stay that way until you wash them where they shrink back down. The stuff I buy is a little bit more expensive and off the rack (usually hanging up in packs of 3). They are still cotton, but more stretchy (like spandex) and hold things far better.

Don't use the "boy shorts" style of panties. In all of my experience, my bits tend to slip out. I really love boy shorts, the way the look and their comfort, but they just don't function. I have tried a butt load of different types too.

Surprisingly, I don't buy or have ever tried a gaff. I thought about it, but I don't feel the need to use one. Thankfully, I was not "endowed" with anything special; and I've gotten my technique down to such a degree that I don't think I'll ever need one.

If you have any questions regarding my method, let me know. I'll be happy to answer. :icon_boxing:

I figured out why my first pairs of nylons lasted, but the others didn't...first pairs were "body shaper" nylons; the weaker pairs were "contour top". Both were "George" brand (from Wal-Mart), but you can certainly feel the difference in strength between the two.

Also, thanks to Samanthaz for her suggestions about undies...I'd always used the cotton 5-packs, but decided to splurge based on her recommendations:

QuoteI don't buy underwear in packs. Like if you go to walmart or target and you can buy a 5 pack of hanes underwear. In just a matter of minutes they will stretch and lose the ability to hold everything in place and they'll stay that way until you wash them where they shrink back down. The stuff I buy is a little bit more expensive and off the rack (usually hanging up in packs of 3). They are still cotton, but more stretchy (like spandex) and hold things far better.

Got a 3-pack of these ("hipster" style, just 'cause I'm cool that way) and they are great! Much more likeable than just plain ol' cotton! Wore my junk tucked all day at work, no problems at all!

I use an easy and simple method of tucking.

Last December, I purchased little girls' panties (no brand name, but labelled as circo) and briefs (size 10) of Hanes at Wal-mart.
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hanes-Girls-Assorted-Briefs-9-Pack/7856451 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Hanes-Girls-Assorted-Briefs-9-Pack/7856451)
http://www.walmart.com/ip/Disney-Little-Girls-Princess-the-Frog-Briefs-7-Pack-size-4/14303297 (http://www.walmart.com/ip/Disney-Little-Girls-Princess-the-Frog-Briefs-7-Pack-size-4/14303297)

9-pack at $7.00
7-pack at $9.97

Those panties and briefs were so much cheap but very endurable. I wear one of the panties under one of the briefs. I exercise outdoors while wearing leggings (without any short pants or skirt). No problem in tucking.

One brief is not enough for tucking, but one panties + one briefs is nice.

Barbie~~