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Title: My hormone levels
Post by: Maja.V on April 06, 2012, 06:36:20 AM
Post by: Maja.V on April 06, 2012, 06:36:20 AM
Hey everyone,
just got my lab results back. They have this comparison table for most things written down, as well. It's as follows:
Estradiol: 2995 pg/mL (comparison: first trimester pregnancy: 215 - 4300)
Testosterone: 0.283 ng/mL (comparison: 2.8 - 8.0) and marked as L
Progesterone: 0.294 ng/mL (comparison: males - 0.2-1.4, females somewhere around there, too, depending on what phase)
Prolactin: 34.95 ng/mL (comparison: fertile phase: 3.4-24.1, postmeno.: 3.0-17.0)
I think estradiol is much, much too high and is gonna need to be toned down to a more reasonable level. As far as prolactin goes, I'm guessing it should decrease with less estradiol intake, anyway.
And I think progesterone is a bit on the low side.
What do you girls and guys think?
I'm not seeing my doctor in a long while, so I'd like to see your opinions.
Thank you!
just got my lab results back. They have this comparison table for most things written down, as well. It's as follows:
Estradiol: 2995 pg/mL (comparison: first trimester pregnancy: 215 - 4300)
Testosterone: 0.283 ng/mL (comparison: 2.8 - 8.0) and marked as L
Progesterone: 0.294 ng/mL (comparison: males - 0.2-1.4, females somewhere around there, too, depending on what phase)
Prolactin: 34.95 ng/mL (comparison: fertile phase: 3.4-24.1, postmeno.: 3.0-17.0)
I think estradiol is much, much too high and is gonna need to be toned down to a more reasonable level. As far as prolactin goes, I'm guessing it should decrease with less estradiol intake, anyway.
And I think progesterone is a bit on the low side.
What do you girls and guys think?
I'm not seeing my doctor in a long while, so I'd like to see your opinions.
Thank you!
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 06, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 06, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
Your E levels are extremely high. My doctor freaked out when mine were in the 700s.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: MacKenzie on April 07, 2012, 01:21:18 AM
Post by: MacKenzie on April 07, 2012, 01:21:18 AM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on April 06, 2012, 10:13:49 AM
Your E levels are extremely high. My doctor freaked out when mine were in the 700s.
Yeah that is really high. Do you think maybe she read it wrong and it's 299pg/ml?
I think the highest my E levels were was like around 900pg/ml.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Jamie D on April 07, 2012, 01:47:49 AM
Post by: Jamie D on April 07, 2012, 01:47:49 AM
Quote from: Maja.V on April 06, 2012, 06:36:20 AM
Hey everyone,
just got my lab results back. They have this comparison table for most things written down, as well. It's as follows:
Estradiol: 2995 pg/mL (comparison: first trimester pregnancy: 215 - 4300)
I mentioned in another posting that a good estradiol target-level for a transitioning MtF is 150 pg/mL.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
Post by: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
The result says 2995 pg/mL, so ... Unless they made a typo.
And for the Estradiol comparison table, it goes like this:
Male: 7.63 - 42.59
Female:
Folic. phase: 12.53 - 165.5
Ovul. phase: 85.78 - 489.0
Luteal phase: 43.82 - 211.0
Postmeno. phase: 5.0 - 54.72
First trimester preg.: 215 - 4300
Is it worth mentioning that I took my medications like an hour and some before the blood drawing (taking E pills sublingually)? I wasn't sure if I should've, or not, and my doctor didn't tell me.
Being on the same dosage for like 5 months now, I didn't notice any bad side effects (apart from the obvious development).
And for the Estradiol comparison table, it goes like this:
Male: 7.63 - 42.59
Female:
Folic. phase: 12.53 - 165.5
Ovul. phase: 85.78 - 489.0
Luteal phase: 43.82 - 211.0
Postmeno. phase: 5.0 - 54.72
First trimester preg.: 215 - 4300
Is it worth mentioning that I took my medications like an hour and some before the blood drawing (taking E pills sublingually)? I wasn't sure if I should've, or not, and my doctor didn't tell me.
Being on the same dosage for like 5 months now, I didn't notice any bad side effects (apart from the obvious development).
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: SandraJane on April 07, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Post by: SandraJane on April 07, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Quote from: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
The result says 2995 pg/mL, so ... Unless they made a typo.
And for the Estradiol comparison table, it goes like this:
First trimester preg.: 215 - 4300
Is it worth mentioning that I took my medications like an hour and some before the blood drawing (taking E pills sublingually)? I wasn't sure if I should've, or not, and my doctor didn't tell me.
Hmmm...apart from that bulge in yer tummy :laugh:...Yeah I think taking SL Estradiol that close to having your blood drawn probably has something to do with it! From what I've read... Estradiol taken Sub Lingually has a rapid onsent...
CONCLUSION:
Sublingual administration of micronized 17 beta-estradiol results in a rapid, burst-like absorption into the systemic circulation, yielding high E2 levels that fall rapidly over the first 6 hours.
Obstet Gynecol. 1997 Mar;89(3):340-5.
Single-dose pharmacokinetics of sublingual versus oral administration of micronized 17 beta-estradiol.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9052581
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 04:33:04 AM
Post by: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 04:33:04 AM
Quote from: SandraJane on April 07, 2012, 03:44:44 AM
Hmmm...apart from that bulge in yer tummy :laugh:...Yeah I think taking SL Estradiol that close to having your blood drawn probably has something to do with it! From what I've read... Estradiol taken Sub Lingually has a rapid onsent...
CONCLUSION:
Sublingual administration of micronized 17 beta-estradiol results in a rapid, burst-like absorption into the systemic circulation, yielding high E2 levels that fall rapidly over the first 6 hours.
Obstet Gynecol. 1997 Mar;89(3):340-5.
Single-dose pharmacokinetics of sublingual versus oral administration of micronized 17 beta-estradiol.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9052581
If only the bulge was a baby .... :laugh:
But yeah, that must be it, then. Thanks!
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2012, 09:07:59 AM
Post by: Dale on April 07, 2012, 09:07:59 AM
Your E level is sky high. You should lower it before you get bad side effects.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 07, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
Post by: Alainaluvsu on April 07, 2012, 09:52:36 AM
Quote from: Maja.V on April 07, 2012, 03:23:19 AM
Is it worth mentioning that I took my medications like an hour and some before the blood drawing (taking E pills sublingually)? I wasn't sure if I should've, or not, and my doctor didn't tell me.
When my results came back @ 722, I had taken a pill sublingually about 30 minutes before my lab test. I asked my doctor if sublingual administration would be responsible for such a high result. She dropped my dosage by 1/3rd for a week and ordered a second blood test, and I got blood drawn 10 hours after taking a dose. The result came back at 642. So I doubt sublingual administration directly taken before a test would be responsible for THAT high of a level.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Korra on May 02, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
Post by: Korra on May 02, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
I read somewhere that estrogen levels in trans women should not exceed 200, am I wrong? These numbers from you guys sound crazy
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Alainaluvsu on May 02, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
Post by: Alainaluvsu on May 02, 2012, 01:28:16 AM
Quote from: Haven on May 02, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
I read somewhere that estrogen levels in trans women should not exceed 200, am I wrong? These numbers from you guys sound crazy
That's recommended. I haven't gotten my hormone levels checked since February, but starting last month I was getting mild morning sickness.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: luna nyan on May 02, 2012, 05:49:11 AM
Post by: luna nyan on May 02, 2012, 05:49:11 AM
Quote from: Haven on May 02, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
I read somewhere that estrogen levels in trans women should not exceed 200, am I wrong? These numbers from you guys sound crazy
Mine was around 325, on low E dose (1 pill per day) only, no T blocker. Endo wasn't concerned at all and happily put me on spiro on top of E as well. I was taking them sublingually and the blood was drawn about 3-4 hours last dose.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: kelly_aus on May 02, 2012, 06:06:53 AM
Post by: kelly_aus on May 02, 2012, 06:06:53 AM
The E level is way too high, as others have said.. The T level is very low too..
I'd be booking an appointment to see your doctor, as those levels need some attention now..
I'd be booking an appointment to see your doctor, as those levels need some attention now..
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Dale on May 02, 2012, 06:01:58 PM
Post by: Dale on May 02, 2012, 06:01:58 PM
Quote from: Haven on May 02, 2012, 12:52:22 AM
I read somewhere that estrogen levels in trans women should not exceed 200, am I wrong? These numbers from you guys sound crazy
Mine varies 400-500
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Korra on May 03, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
Post by: Korra on May 03, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
What is the healthy level for trans patients Maximum E level? My doctor has been learning this with me as we go and I'd hate to be bringing him dated materials.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Alainaluvsu on May 03, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
Post by: Alainaluvsu on May 03, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
Quote from: Korra on May 03, 2012, 01:17:24 AM
What is the healthy level for trans patients Maximum E level? My doctor has been learning this with me as we go and I'd hate to be bringing him dated materials.
My doctor said she wanted me between 175 - 200 and wont let me drop below 150.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Jamie D on May 03, 2012, 01:45:14 AM
Post by: Jamie D on May 03, 2012, 01:45:14 AM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on May 03, 2012, 01:32:04 AM
My doctor said she wanted me between 175 - 200 and wont let me drop below 150.
150 pg/mL is the target threshold. 200-250 pg/mL is satisfactory. In natal women, the levels vary during the menstrual cycle, with ~400 pg/mL being the mid-cycle norm.
In transitioning MtFs, one consideration must be whether the nuts are still working, or whether the T is adequately blocked.
Title: Re: My hormone levels
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on May 08, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
Post by: Jenny_B_Good on May 08, 2012, 12:01:45 AM
I'll just add that I always get my blood done first thing in the morning before eating or meds.
That way I get a worst case scenario and my tests.
Cheers,
Jen
That way I get a worst case scenario and my tests.
Cheers,
Jen