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just curious if any other alternaltive people post on here :)

sometimes i like to say " screw labels " and aviod them completely but i cant deny by my music tastes and how i dress etc that im " goth" haahha

Metalhead reporting in. I dress in black, I'm sick and twisted, I eat children, I rob graveyards, I sacrifice animals, I-... oh sorry, got a bit carried away there. I do dress in black though :P Admittedly am a bit twisted too..
Grew up during the most glorious era of Black Metal in Sweden, what can I say ;)

Best kinds of people out there (;

Present! British punk and proud here.

I spent a lot of time around the goths in high school and college, but metal will always be something that is deeply a part of me. The more extreme, the better; we live in a great time for the stuff I like :)

I guess I would consider myself in the goth circle. These days I dont really go to the goth clubs or shows too much anymore.

I like metal, but most metalheads I've met and I don't see eye to eye. I've been told I'm goth because I like halloweeny stuff, The Addams Family, Creature Feature, etc, but the goths I've met and I don't get along either.
Although it does make me laugh that I have been told by a goth that it isn't halloween.
I am a nerd. Like everyone else. lol

Oh yeah, I'm definitely a nerd

There are so many cases of 'love the music/hate the fans'

You don't always have to look the part, just the attitude and the lifestyle in someone else is what attracts me.

I feel sorta bad saying this since my boyfriend isn't typically punk or grundge, he listens to some forms of rock though.
Love him to death, but there's plenty of stuff we dont see eye to eye on :P

"Goth", technically...Or I was.  Now I'm much more for Visual Kei, once I get the chance to afford the clothes. xD

I am a mix of them all :P. I am not sure where I belong LOL.


But I think that I am more of a rivethead than anything.

Quote from: Carolina1983 on June 01, 2012, 02:52:55 PM
I am a mix of them all :P. I am not sure where I belong LOL.


But I think that I am more of a rivethead than anything.

Oontz oontz!  :icon_boogy:

Quote from: Laura91 on June 01, 2012, 08:32:37 AM
The old school Swedish Death Metal scene was so much cooler.

If you think so, good for you I guess? :P Black Metal is holy to me. Pure beauty.
Plus, my town has been a thick Black Metal nest, and I've seen some really great bands rise from here.

Quote from: Adrasteia on June 01, 2012, 03:27:40 PM
Oontz oontz!  :icon_boogy:

;D. The thing that sucks though is that I havent danced for a few years and nowadays I suck at it =/, it bugs me...... But I will get better again I hope.

Quote from: Laura91 on June 02, 2012, 10:24:31 AMOne of these days I am going to win the Lotto, fly in a bunch of Japanese noise bands and have an all day noise fest downtown and scare the hell out of everyone. :D

I'm so bad about going to shows.  I've been near enough to DC for many years and I miss out on the big noise/experimental festival that is here every year (although I've caught a number of great bands otherwise, just not since getting my most recent job).

Quote from: Carolina1983 on June 02, 2012, 10:46:25 AM

;D. The thing that sucks though is that I havent danced for a few years and nowadays I suck at it =/, it bugs me...... But I will get better again I hope.

I've always been terrible at it, but that was one of the nice things about the goth club - imo everyone looks a bit silly.

I would say I'm "alternative". I don't much care for labels either but at one time I was really heavy into several music scenes and worked in that industry. I still do work with a lot of musicians in a round about way. I never did the tattoo, piercing thing but I have had my hair every style and color before. I did have a goth phase back when that was peaking in the late 80's (I tried really, really hard to look like Peter Murphy!). So basically I'd say that I never really wanted to be "normal" and fit in with the majority and to me, that's pretty much what "alternative" is all about.

Quote from: Wraith on June 01, 2012, 04:54:00 PM
If you think so, good for you I guess? :P Black Metal is holy to me. Pure beauty.
Plus, my town has been a thick Black Metal nest, and I've seen some really great bands rise from here.

Hey Wraith ... what's some of your fav black metal bands? I'd like to pick up some more of that stuff. Things I've liked have been Limbonic Art, Celebratum and Bloodthorn.

Certain subcultures are def more accepting of trans and other "different" people.

Quote from: Felix on June 02, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
Certain subcultures are def more accepting of trans and other "different" people.

Definitely!  The tattoo and piercing staff at the shop we use, didn't even blink when I told them I was trans.  Our favorite artist even said, we understand what it is like to be looked at and ridiculed so they NEVER did that to others.

Quote from: Felix on June 02, 2012, 07:27:52 PM
Certain subcultures are def more accepting of trans and other "different" people.

Depends on the individuals. I have heard that goths are supposed to be more accepting, but the reason I stopped hanging out with the ones I knew was how cruel they were to anyone different than them. Not saying all goths are like that, but like all groups, not everyone is the same.

Quote from: Laura91 on June 02, 2012, 10:24:31 AM
What area are you from? My town never had any real scene as far as metal bands are concerned

I live in Umeå. I didn't know you were from Sweden? :)
My experience is from about 12 years ago though, I have no idea what the scene is like now. Some bands never made it out of here, my brother being one example (his was a one-man project though), he was very good at the time, with a very unique sound I haven't heard again. And two bands that got big are Naglfar and Ancient Wisdom. Bewitched too, but that's satanic trash metal.

There used to be a small studio/cafe/club where bands like this came to play. In fact, there were several cafes and pubs and even metal shops where alternative people specifically used to hang out, but now? They've pretty much all shut down. I've no idea where people go, or if the alternative scene even exists anymore. I never see goths and punkers nowadays. Well I haven't done a lot of digging though, admittedly.

Quote from: insideontheoutside on June 02, 2012, 01:58:19 PM
Hey Wraith ... what's some of your fav black metal bands? I'd like to pick up some more of that stuff.

Thank you for mentioning Limbonic Art, hadn't heard them before, and this was great! Bloodthorn is death metal, and exactly the kind that I like.

Some black metal bands I like:
Dissection (http://youtu.be/FgNuecoIVEU) (one of the first very influential swedish black metal bands, anyone who hasn't heard them but likes black metal, should listen to the albums The Somberlain, and Storm of The Light's Bane, just saying this for all in here)
Thulcandra (http://youtu.be/9wmcUMSCsKA) (very heavily influenced by Dissection)
Naglfar (http://youtu.be/jixsazChvIg)
Sear Bliss (http://youtu.be/KCIsj5qiCJo) (they use trumpets and make it work really well)
Ceremonial Castings (http://youtu.be/2yk-hpcLR24) (Americans! yay, it happens sometimes! ;P)
Imperium Dekadenz (http://youtu.be/UlNEhYC7k_o)
Gehenna (http://youtu.be/Gz0UWbgsX6c)
Sargeist (http://youtu.be/iWsZcp2B76k)
Bornholm (http://youtu.be/rV1BeKmP9bs)
But my one all time favourite band is Summoning (http://youtu.be/YFbBKiSC2MY), and I CRIED when I heard they will get together and make new music again. Words cannot describe that band.

I should stop (http://youtu.be/SCqwtPryIpA) taking up so much space (http://youtu.be/3D9OTNhubbA) in this topic now... ;) I'm always happy to give tips about specific type of bands and tracks though

Quote from: Wraith on June 03, 2012, 02:16:36 AM
Had this forum not had the auto embed feature, I would have linked a specific song to each band, but as it is, that would get messy :P

[ noembed][url=youtube link]Song Title[/url] [ /noembed]

That will stop it being auto embedded. :) (remove the spaces in the tags - they're only there so they show up in the code)

I prefer to think of myself as someone who takes what I like and makes it suit me. I'm usually a blend of scene, office, and steampunk. It is kind of amazing how much our clothes can say about us though. Our personalities, financial status, and our work.

Music wise I love my metal, folk, indie-pop and classical.

Speaking of which, I must go shopping soon, both for music and clothes, not to mention make-up.

Thanks Sephirah, didn't know about that one, but it caused double "http" instead even if I left that part out.
Then I realised I should have just used the "short links", as they don't embed, bah. Oh well, I learn ::) The links are in there now.

Quote from: Wraith on June 03, 2012, 02:16:36 AM
Thank you for mentioning Limbonic Art, hadn't heard them before, and this was great! Bloodthorn is death metal, and exactly the kind that I like.

Some black metal bands I like:
Dissection (http://youtu.be/FgNuecoIVEU) (one of the first very influential swedish black metal bands, anyone who hasn't heard them but likes black metal, should listen to the albums The Somberlain, and Storm of The Light's Bane, just saying this for all in here)
Thulcandra (http://youtu.be/9wmcUMSCsKA) (very heavily influenced by Dissection)
Naglfar (http://youtu.be/jixsazChvIg)
Sear Bliss (http://youtu.be/KCIsj5qiCJo) (they use trumpets and make it work really well)
Ceremonial Castings (http://youtu.be/2yk-hpcLR24) (Americans! yay, it happens sometimes! ;P)
Imperium Dekadenz (http://youtu.be/UlNEhYC7k_o)
Gehenna (http://youtu.be/Gz0UWbgsX6c)
Sargeist (http://youtu.be/iWsZcp2B76k)
Bornholm (http://youtu.be/rV1BeKmP9bs)
But my one all time favourite band is Summoning (http://youtu.be/YFbBKiSC2MY), and I CRIED when I heard they will get together and make new music again. Words cannot describe that band.

I should stop (http://youtu.be/SCqwtPryIpA) taking up so much space (http://youtu.be/3D9OTNhubbA) in this topic now... ;) I'm always happy to give tips about specific type of bands and tracks though

Awesome thanks! I'm especially loving Naglfar (reminds me a lot of Arch Enemy, who's one of my fav bands) and Sear Bliss. Really like Summoning too.

I'm very mixed. I'm Metal with some Techno and a dash of movie score thrown in.

I guess you could throw me in this mix too.
Actually, my given fashion history and music tastes actually sort of justify that I belong in this mix, but oh well.
I also have larger sized plugs and my cartilage gauged - and back in high school, I used to dye my hair strange colors.

I listen to the music but don't necessarily dress that way. I do like hanging out on the music/alt scene though, so many different people to look at.

Quote from: Laura91 on June 03, 2012, 01:50:33 PM
I'm not from Sweden. I live in the land of corn and basketball. (Three guesses as to what that could be.)

Sounds like Indiana to me. :p

I'm a metalhead. I like many types of metal but i'm mainly a death metal fan.

I'm a highly tattoo'd, kick ass skater girl...and I know I'm kick ass because of all the scars!

Goth bloke here, I love Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Joy Division, bands like that. But also Foetus, Dead Kennedys and loads of weird stuff. I dress in black, own a black trenchcoat and big stompy boots, and have had rainbow-coloured dreads. In an ideal world, I'd look like Peter Murphy. In this one, I look like a hobbit in black.

Quote from: Frank on June 03, 2012, 05:51:06 PM
I listen to the music but don't necessarily dress that way. I do like hanging out on the music/alt scene though, so many different people to look at.

Yeah this kinda like me.
Although the Goth look kinda appeals to me, so I might try that in the future.
Another thing I would like to go for would be the hipster look. I think that might also work out.

Quote from: PixieBoy on June 08, 2012, 06:17:53 PM
Goth bloke here, I love Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Joy Division, bands like that. But also Foetus, Dead Kennedys and loads of weird stuff. I dress in black, own a black trenchcoat and big stompy boots, and have had rainbow-coloured dreads. In an ideal world, I'd look like Peter Murphy. In this one, I look like a hobbit in black.

My musical tastes trend in this direction, or did when I was younger, but I try to be as happy and silly as possible these days. I think I listen to more Beastie Boys and local indie rock than anything else. And Cab Calloway and the Locust and Beach Boys and M.I.A. and Dinosaur Jr and really I never know what's going on in any scene. I'm always lost. But not sad. Sez I.

I do try not to fall too far into any specific subculture. I don't want to get blindered or typecast or exclusive or whatever.

Quote from: PixieBoy on June 08, 2012, 06:17:53 PM
Goth bloke here, I love Bauhaus, Siouxsie, Joy Division, bands like that. But also Foetus, Dead Kennedys and loads of weird stuff. I dress in black, own a black trenchcoat and big stompy boots, and have had rainbow-coloured dreads. In an ideal world, I'd look like Peter Murphy. In this one, I look like a hobbit in black.

I'm into the same. Joy Division has been my favorite band for about 20 years now. In the past couple of years I've gotten to see Peter Hook's band The Light perform Unknown Pleasures and Closer in their entirety. I've also seen Bauhaus a few times, Peter Murphy solo a few times and Siouxie too. I've seen her in a small club when she was doing The Creatures, it was amazing. I'm lucky enough to have seen Christian Death when Rozz was still alive, that is probably one of the best shows that I've ever been to. I found a video of it a few years ago, it made my girlfriend start asking questions, I was sitting on one of the speakers and you can see me clearly in some shots, I was wearing a dress and makeup.

Quote from: Felix on June 10, 2012, 03:43:35 AM
My musical tastes trend in this direction, or did when I was younger, but I try to be as happy and silly as possible these days. I think I listen to more Beastie Boys and local indie rock than anything else. And Cab Calloway and the Locust and Beach Boys and M.I.A. and Dinosaur Jr and really I never know what's going on in any scene. I'm always lost. But not sad. Sez I.

I do try not to fall too far into any specific subculture. I don't want to get blindered or typecast or exclusive or whatever.

Goths are pretty silly. Case in point:
BAUHAUS how to make fishcakes xDDDD (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lO-r1MJQve8#)

Quote from: michelle666 on June 10, 2012, 06:04:59 AM
I'm into the same. Joy Division has been my favorite band for about 20 years now. In the past couple of years I've gotten to see Peter Hook's band The Light perform Unknown Pleasures and Closer in their entirety. I've also seen Bauhaus a few times, Peter Murphy solo a few times and Siouxie too. I've seen her in a small club when she was doing The Creatures, it was amazing. I'm lucky enough to have seen Christian Death when Rozz was still alive, that is probably one of the best shows that I've ever been to. I found a video of it a few years ago, it made my girlfriend start asking questions, I was sitting on one of the speakers and you can see me clearly in some shots, I was wearing a dress and makeup.

I'm sooooo jealous of you, I've only seen Peter Murphy once. Guess that's what one gets for being born decades too late.

Quote from: PixieBoy on June 11, 2012, 02:55:01 AM
I'm sooooo jealous of you, I've only seen Peter Murphy once. Guess that's what one gets for being born decades too late.

In 05ish or so, Bauhaus came to Alabama as an opener for NIN. I saved up a stupidly large amount of money for the tickets plus a sitter so I could go to the show, and it was hilarious. You could see very clearly who came to see Bauhaus and who came to see NIN, and there was almost no overlap. The whole thing made me feel like I was 16 again though, and I jumped around and hollered the words to all the songs from both bands.

I don't go to shows much though, generally.

Quote from: Felix on June 14, 2012, 04:42:28 AM
In 05ish or so, Bauhaus came to Alabama as an opener for NIN. I saved up a stupidly large amount of money for the tickets plus a sitter so I could go to the show, and it was hilarious. You could see very clearly who came to see Bauhaus and who came to see NIN, and there was almost no overlap. The whole thing made me feel like I was 16 again though, and I jumped around and hollered the words to all the songs from both bands.

I don't go to shows much though, generally.

I saw Bauhuas around that time, they weren't with NIN though. I would have loved to see that show. Sometime around 1990, NIN was supposed to open for Peter Murphy but they canceled the show for some reason. I did get to see them not too long before that opening for The Jesus And Mary Chain in 1989 in club that held about 300 people.

Hi.  This is a pretty funny conversation; I totally relate.  I'm probably older than most of you.  I grew up in the dawn of the Los Angeles punk scene back in the late 70's and early 80's.  I was a regular at the shows that included The Dead Kennedys, Black Flag, Circle Jerks, DOA, Agent Orange, MDC, Suicidal Tendencies among many others.  For a couple of years I played steel drums in a harsh punk band called Zendik Farm Band.  It was a wild, crazy, exciting time to be alive!

These days I'm more of a human Barbie Doll than hardcore punker.  Though my waist length dark hair is loaded with bright streaks and highlights of electric pink, bubblegum pink, electric blue, raspberry blue, purple, burgundy, caramel, chocolate cherry, lavender and jet black.  My hair gets a lot of attention whenever I step out of the house.

I still get my yayas off most every day, rocking my house off the foundation with my 300 watt-per-channel sound system, rocking the neighborhood to the sounds of Suicidal Tendencies, The Queers, NOFX, NIN, Fugazi, and Limp Bizkit, among others.  I may be a human Barbie Doll by image, but my heart will always belong to hardcore punk.

Thanks for letting me share.  What a fun conversation!

Peace,
Miharu

Bauhaus, Joy Division, and now NOFX, Circle Jerks, Fugazi...

This thread is bringing back a lot of memories and making me dig through Spotify for some good nostalgia

I am Goth, though not a scenester.  I have never been in with the cool people, here or IRL - I have eclectic musical tastes.  That is all.

I got called anternertive but I am not of any special type.
I got called "emo" a couple of times, cause of my hair, but I dont see myself as emo.
Maybe I would be punk if I had more money, and wasnt so lazy. haha.. :D

to be frank, I dont like the word "alternative" that much.
I feel its too much based on only clothing and music and not really on people, 
at least where im from. and I dont feel like getting jugded just for whatever music I like or for what clothes I wear.

I'm kinda emo/scene lol