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Title: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 05, 2012, 06:29:12 PM
please dont say i told you so or anything like that, i went with dr pichet xause all i could afford. this pain is unbearable i havenot stopp0edcrying in fours day. the nurses get mad and yell at me to not cry dr is very mean and no oone speaks english. i am laying here rightnow instead of realizing my dream has come  true i am praying for death i cannot handle this n want it over
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Amazon D on July 05, 2012, 06:31:15 PM
We are here for you sis. All will be better in time.. One day you will lol about this.. hugs Danielle

PS: Tell us more so we can better understand..
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 05, 2012, 06:37:40 PM
I'm sorry :/
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 05, 2012, 06:43:05 PM
Show this to the nurses.

Quoteฉันจำเป็นต้องใช้ยาแก้ปวด, กรุณา

It is thai for "I need pain medication, Please."

Also try to use Google Translate (http://translate.google.com/#) to communicate.

Hang in there Sister.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: elle2011 on July 05, 2012, 06:45:30 PM
Let the nurses know that you need pain medication, and if they get angry get angry back at them... I hope you get better.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 05, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
i ahve been given morphine once adayand a yellow green capsule it barleyy helps my legs are spasaming and cramping so bad i dont feels like a 4 day charliehorseblower area bleed all the time and sometime i lay in the blood four houras i just wish i could die this hurrts so bad
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 05, 2012, 07:20:18 PM
*hugs*

Hope things get better for you soon.

I cannot even imagine the pain you are feeling...are they giving you transfusions for the blood loss?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: elle2011 on July 05, 2012, 08:56:42 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 05, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
i ahve been given morphine once adayand a yellow green capsule it barleyy helps my legs are spasaming and cramping so bad i dont feels like a 4 day charliehorseblower area bleed all the time and sometime i lay in the blood four houras i just wish i could die this hurrts so bad

Show this to your nurse:

'สวัสดีครับว่าถ้าคุณไม่ทำให้ผมเจ็บปวดยาและต้องใช้เวลามากขึ้นผมจะไม่มีทางเลือกแต่การโทรติดต่อกับสถานทูตอเมริกัน. ผมเป็นคนที่สมควรจะได้รับในการได้รับการดูแลหลังจากได้'

It states that if they don't better assit you, you will call the American Embassy, you need to be taken care of in better ways.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Jeneva on July 05, 2012, 09:11:39 PM
Light and love to ease your pain and aid your healing.

Please don't give up, know that we are all wishing you well.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 05, 2012, 09:27:16 PM
it seems the dr and nurses get realy upset with me for crying they keep raising their voice saying dont cry dont scream mandy i wish i was dead i cant handle this pain
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 05, 2012, 09:29:07 PM
removing packing in 30 minutes i hope this wil take away some of the pain
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: mintra on July 05, 2012, 09:54:28 PM
I really feel sorry for you mandy. Hope you feel better soon. We are here for you my dear.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: MariaMx on July 05, 2012, 10:20:40 PM
SRS can be very painful. I know mine was and I was given morphine every 4 hours or so the first couple of days. The yellow green capsules sound like Tramadol. They are pretty powerful but nothing like morphine. Hope you feel better soon.

ATM I'm in Thailand myself struggling with severe muscular pain in my left arm after BA.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 05, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Without actually seeing the capsule, it is hard to say what it is.

It could be anything for acetaminophen to an anti-depressant.  You would have to post any words or numbers that are on it.

I hope removing the packing helps.  I know how painful surgery can be.  While I have not had SRS, I have had abdominal surgery.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: elle2011 on July 05, 2012, 11:05:10 PM
Its tramadol, highly addictive, I took the recommended dosage after surgery and ended up with disgusting withdrawals for a week that had me losing my mind having suicidal thoughts
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: mementomori on July 05, 2012, 11:29:31 PM
please tell me that all thia nurses arent like this , yelling at your for cying ? WTF 

i hope dr suporns nurses arent anything like that becuase im considering going to him
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: MariaMx on July 06, 2012, 12:20:10 AM
Dr Suporns nurses are excellent. There was a bit of language trouble when I had srs. After surgery I had the mother of all migraine attacks and it took what seemed like days before they understood it was a migraine that was the main problem. The english skills of the nurses have improved a great deal since then.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 06, 2012, 03:21:35 AM
right now i am in hotel m2 accros stret after cath n packing removed aii was told drinks lots of water n pee.aftr 3hours of sitting on toilet yjey put cath back in for 7 days. kicked me out of clinic and told me to come back monday for clean


if those are tramodol is 15 enough to OD i cannot take this pain and no $ for nother dr
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 06, 2012, 06:49:32 AM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 06, 2012, 03:37:55 AM
please if anyone can lookup number and call dr suporan or chet or any other thialand i need help bad please im in hotel d2 room 211 acros street from pichet clinic. omg think starigh cell has 10% so wont be able to check back on here checked under mandy(jason) hohler

Chettawut Plastic Surgery Center

1529/4 Onnut 31 Sukhumvit 77 Bangkok, Thailand 10250
Tel (668) 3133-5836    Fax (662) 742-0845

If you would like to contact Dr. Chettawut Plastic Surgery Center by email. Please send email to
cset@truemail.co.th or info@chet-plasticsurgery.com
===========================================

The Dr. Suporn Clinic

Email Addresses

It is our role to help you. However, we would also be grateful if - for all contact with the clinic - you could help us by maintaining consistent email addresses (or advising us when your email address has changed) in order for us to keep all your correspondence together. Please do not submit email attachments or supporting documentation with initial enquiries; we use a number of proformae to maintain consistency within our records, and we will ask patients to submit detail information on an 'as-required' basis during our dialogs.

Please address all enquires regarding surgery with Dr Suporn to the following address:

admin@supornclinic.com


Mailing address

The Dr. Suporn Clinic

938 Sukhumvit Road

Bangplasoi, Muang District

Chonburi, 20000

Thailand

Phone

Thailand's time zone is GMT (Greenwich Mean Time) +7hours, and does not use Daylight Saving. This puts the Clinic 6-7 hours ahead of Europe, 12-17 hours ahead of the USA, and 5 hours behind New Zealand.

Due to the number of enquiries we receive, and the difficulty in maintaining a service that corresponds with the time zones of our world-wide patient clientele, we do not generally take messages by telephone. Post-operative patients, however, are given contact telephone numbers on departure to use for any follow-up care they may require.

Fax

+66 38 780569 (replace the "+" with the international dialing code appropriate to your country)

Internet Web Address

http://www.supornclinic.com (http://www.supornclinic.com)

The web site is currently available in English only. Other language versions are planned for implementation in the future.

===============

Dear I hope this helps. You sound so desperate I could be in tears for you, not that it will help any...
Yhough I hope above info will be what you looking for.

Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 06, 2012, 06:42:13 PM
thank u i called chettewa no answer just recording so i left message. i need for this pain to end i dont care i got moved at 3am to another room in hotel cause my crying disturbed people i am soo alone and just want to die
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Sephirah on July 06, 2012, 07:02:57 PM
Sweetie, you're not alone, okay?

You have us here, thinking about you.

If you want someone to talk to, even just to try to take your mind off things, send me a PM, okay?

*big hug*

Hang in there, hon. You left a message so hopefully they'll get back to you.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 06, 2012, 09:18:03 PM
*hugs* again, 'till you get feeling better and doin' great!

:)

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Morgan. on July 06, 2012, 10:16:42 PM
I'm so sorry to hear that you are having a horrible time over in Thailand, Mandy.

Has someone gotten in contact with an alternative doctor/accommodation for Mandy, or heard from her since her last post in this thread?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: EmmaMcAllister on July 06, 2012, 10:53:02 PM
Oh god, I feel so awful for you Mandy. I don't understand exactly what you're going through, but I understand surgical pain you just can't handle. And to be going through this alone in a foreign country, I can't even imagine. Stay strong honey, you can make it through this.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: lilacwoman on July 07, 2012, 01:56:02 AM
http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm (http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm)


is this him?

strange that Mandy is having this trouble unless his standards have slipped or he took a dislike to her?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 07, 2012, 02:04:42 AM
Quote from: lilacwoman on July 07, 2012, 01:56:02 AM
http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm (http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm)


is this him?

strange that Mandy is having this trouble unless his standards have slipped or he took a dislike to her?

To me, the reviews in the link all read/feel the same...as if one or two people simply patched together the usual "wow, they're all truly competent and caring!" type of comments with a bit of filler in-between.

They lack individual flavor, of passion.

If he "took a dislike to her", that alone is an automatic "you're outta here!" because it shows a truly unprofessional attitude.

imho
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Jamie D on July 07, 2012, 02:16:05 AM
Techniques, testimonials, and best practices aside, there absolutely no good reason not to provide adequate pain relief.  Every competent doctor and nurse is aware of the 10-level pain chart.  A patient with uncontrollable crying and unbearable pain is a 9 or 10 on the pain chart, and must be dealt with.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 07, 2012, 02:20:43 AM
Or "wheeling her out of the hospital to avoid upsetting the other patients." That is inexcusable in my book...especially with the amount of bleeding that's been described.

I hope she's doing ok. This is just so...aggravating.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 07, 2012, 03:30:20 AM
Gosh, I'm just so freaking upset reading all this, I can't tell you.
I soooo very much hope this will blow over. I so do.
I'm in tears for Mandy, and the bad taste it will leave in her mouth and so many other folks... looking for SRS.
I so wish this had not turned out this way.

Mandy if you read this, PLEASE I so wish for you to get better and all to turn out fine in the end.
I'm totally rattled by your account. Don't even know why it affects me so very much. More than most anything I read at Susan's to date.
Please, please get well girl!

We all are hanging in the ropes with you - all over the world.

Please get better, surgery pain cannot go on for ever ... it WILL not!

Really rattled,
Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: cindianna_jones on July 07, 2012, 04:19:15 AM
This breaks my heart to read this thread, Mandy. We're all here pulling for you.  I hope you get something to help you get through this. Please keep us posted.

Cindi
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 07, 2012, 11:16:21 AM
It's Saturday the 7th over here, Mandy.

*hugs*

How you doing?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 07, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Give us an update, worried over here :embarrassed:

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: crazy old bat on July 07, 2012, 11:53:40 AM
I really hope things come out ok, Mandy. Just don't let them keep putting you off and try to hang in there! 
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Jamie D on July 07, 2012, 02:04:13 PM
Quote from: Adam1 on July 07, 2012, 11:51:32 AM
Give us an update, worried over here :embarrassed:

Mandy was viewing the board last night (US time), so she is still with us.

(Adam, my apologies.  I hit the "modify" rather than "quote" button on your post.)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: peky on July 07, 2012, 04:16:56 PM
Quote from: lilacwoman on July 07, 2012, 01:56:02 AM
http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm (http://www.nwgausa.com/srs-dr.pichet-positive-references.htm)
is this him?
strange that Mandy is having this trouble unless his standards have slipped or he took a dislike to her?

having been in the medical field I can tell you that no self respecting physician or nurse would allow her/his likes or dislikes affect the pain management of any patient.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 07, 2012, 04:19:07 PM
So from what I can gather


Dr. Pichet=horrible surgeon

Right?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: smittyFTM on July 07, 2012, 04:20:21 PM
This is very disturbing :(
Mandy, I hope you're alright!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: peky on July 07, 2012, 04:24:31 PM
Do we have any forum member in Thailand who can help Mandy?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: cindianna_jones on July 07, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Has anyone heard from Mandy today? I am concerned that she hasn't posted.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Kyle_S on July 07, 2012, 11:13:07 PM
After reading all of this thread I am very worried for her too :(
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 07, 2012, 11:20:28 PM
Worried!

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Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Kelli on July 07, 2012, 11:31:57 PM
Ditto all who are worried....


Sending love and light to Mandy. Hang in there sister!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Dahlia on July 08, 2012, 02:34:48 AM
Quote from: Adam1 on July 07, 2012, 04:19:07 PM
So from what I can gather


Dr. Pichet=horrible surgeon

Right?

He has a very, very bad reputation since 2002; several SRS and FFS horrorstories about his 'results' are  floating around the internet.
He still makes new victims despite very clear warnings from several people.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 08, 2012, 02:43:17 AM
Anyone heard from her?

This is disgraceful. I'm very worried for her well being
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: V M on July 08, 2012, 02:53:39 AM
She's online right now  :)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Morgan. on July 08, 2012, 02:55:08 AM
Please let us know how you're doing Mandy!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 08, 2012, 02:55:45 AM
i back for short time i appreciate all outpouring of love and respect makes me feel good. the pain has not gone down much maybe a 8 out of 10 now nurse from dr office came over and adjusted cathedar and that made big difference. i hope mopnday when office opens i find new information. the hotel staff has one girl that speaks a little english and has helped me some. i am just so scared and alone on the other side of the world....

if anyone wants to talk or just let me whine to them please skype me at mandyh921 is skype username..

laptop is always on though i might not be sleep is the only cure for pain
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 08, 2012, 03:44:32 AM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 08, 2012, 02:55:45 AM
i back for short time i appreciate all outpouring of love and respect makes me feel good. the pain has not gone down much maybe a 8 out of 10 now nurse from dr office came over and adjusted cathedar and that made big difference. i hope mopnday when office opens i find new information. the hotel staff has one girl that speaks a little english and has helped me some. i am just so scared and alone on the other side of the world....

if anyone wants to talk or just let me whine to them please skype me at mandyh921 is skype username..

laptop is always on though i might not be sleep is the only cure for pain

Catheter, um ... I had this issue after my second op, I did mention it, didn't I?
Was shouting for Morphine when I came to – and then 2 more times... wow, yes it CAN get very sore, though my next door room neighbour having the exact same op... had NO PAIN whatsoever according to her telling. Go figure. Really.
It can be absolutely excruciating pain if the catheter was initially put in bit crude or whatever. It's the pain of being stocked up ones urethra and I know --- bad, bad, real bad. The good news... it will abide hon.
Then ALSO do NOT forget... Thai women (and men) as delicate as they may look, are TOUGH! They think westerners are often just too wimpy, so they get all worked up if we get all washed up with pain, and all what goes with it. Different culture, believe me.
Sex change is not for the faint hearted whatever some may think.
But women ARE tough - so are you, doll! It's kind of having a baby... like your FIRST one, eh? :)

I will get better by the day now.
Hug,
Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 08, 2012, 08:12:25 AM
Hi Mandy,

How the things are? Did you get to see any other doctor. Dr Chettawut is a great doctor, make an appointment and see him. And he is very honest, he will not lie to you. Do you have money on you? Do you have medical insurance? I was on my own for my SRS in Thailand and I know what does it feel like being alone in a hotel room and recovering.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 08, 2012, 08:32:42 AM
Mandy,

I am very upset for what is happening to you. Have you called the American Embassy. If not do so as soon as possible, they will arrange everything for you.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 08, 2012, 08:50:36 AM
So glad you're still here, Mandy. Things will get better soon! How much more time do you think you have in Thailand?

*hugs*

Look, I brought flowers!

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fyoursmiles.org%2Ftsmile%2Fbouquet%2Ft4427.gif&hash=88fc12c969b67d1f4cd308874f1938f2baa012ca) (http://yoursmiles.org/t-bouquet.php)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: BillieTex on July 08, 2012, 09:33:36 AM
Praying for you girl. It will get better.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 08, 2012, 11:50:25 AM
Mandy...so nice to see you write this morn! hang in there sweetheart!!!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 08, 2012, 12:09:40 PM
Whew

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fus.123rf.com%2F400wm%2F400%2F400%2Flogos%2Flogos1005%2Flogos100500294%2F7074439-top-view-of-an-exhausted-female-wiping-off-sweat-from-forehead-against-white.jpg&hash=f65d980e85c55906d0ebebd99fa6adb440e7d83f)

I am glad you are OK and feeling somewhat better.

I was worried.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 08, 2012, 12:21:49 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 08, 2012, 02:55:45 AM
i back for short time i appreciate all outpouring of love and respect makes me feel good. the pain has not gone down much maybe a 8 out of 10 now nurse from dr office came over and adjusted cathedar and that made big difference. i hope mopnday when office opens i find new information. the hotel staff has one girl that speaks a little english and has helped me some. i am just so scared and alone on the other side of the world....

if anyone wants to talk or just let me whine to them please skype me at mandyh921 is skype username..

laptop is always on though i might not be sleep is the only cure for pain

I was curious about the time difference between Thailand and Seattle, and it's 12 hours to the future. ETA: 14 hours (from Seattle to Thailand)

Worldwide Time Zones Real-Time Comparison (http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 08, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
Quote from: swan on July 08, 2012, 08:12:25 AM
Hi Mandy,

How the things are? Did you get to see any other doctor. Dr Chettawut is a great doctor, make an appointment and see him. And he is very honest, he will not lie to you. Do you have money on you? Do you have medical insurance? I was on my own for my SRS in Thailand and I know what does it feel like being alone in a hotel room and recovering.

i am completely broke i paid for hotel in advance which included free breakfast and was able to scrounge 100baht a day for food until the 16th. no insurance when i get home. this is such an awful week

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 08, 2012, 04:03:33 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 08, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
i am completely broke i paid for hotel in advance which included free breakfast and was able to scrounge 100baht a day for food until the 16th. no insurance when i get home. this is such an awful week

What will you do then?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 08, 2012, 04:05:00 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 08, 2012, 04:01:25 PM
i am completely broke i paid for hotel in advance which included free breakfast and was able to scrounge 100baht a day for food until the 16th. no insurance when i get home. this is such an awful week

Where do you live Mandy?

I would gladly chip in to help with a little grocery $ or whatever once you get home safe and sound, its the very least I can do.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 08, 2012, 04:14:55 PM
Mandy, do you have a PayPal account?

Exchange rates, Thai baht --> USD (http://www.x-rates.com/d/USD/table.html)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 08, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
i cannot sleep for more than an hour at a time pain makes me get up and pulling on the cathedar. it is monday morning at 4am in 5 hours at 9 i get the cathedar removed for the second time. The pain from removing that almost killed me the first time im not looking forward to this. how in thisworld am i going to fly 23hrs crying and screaming the whole time.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 08, 2012, 04:18:45 PM
When do you leave?

Your profile says Evansville Indiana...what's your iteniary? If you stopover in Seattle, let me know.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 08, 2012, 04:25:12 PM
i live in southern indiana but omg no i chose this path for my life i half to deal with the consequences. Thank you sooo much for the offer but i cant accept. you are all such wonderful people and i feel closer to you all in a weird way then the "family" i suposdly have(my son hasnt even called once to check on me and i have seen him on skype everyday)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 08, 2012, 05:45:47 PM
Your friends here will never let you down, because we care and understand :)

You ARE one of us!

please heel well and fast!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 08, 2012, 10:26:39 PM
update

tuesjuly 3rd was surgery , kicked out of hospital on following friday removed cathedor and i couldnt pee so was reinserted. went in for checkup today first time i had seen dr since fri and he tells me if you were in pain you shouldve called me i was ready for this and showed my phone where i had called 113times from friday night until sunday late night. and he said hmm must be broke. well he went and did his painful test and left the cathedar in until friday saying urethra swelling my fear is i am catching plane on sun at 1145pm it is unconforatable to lay down on bed never in a chair even with donut. will swealling go down that much when cath is removed? the pain is finally going down to what i would say is a 7.5 i slept for almost a 3hour strectch last night and i held down two pieces of watermellon normally everytime i eat pain is so bad i just throw up.... so i am gladd for this news just now have something more to worry about.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: V M on July 08, 2012, 10:37:27 PM
Hugs  :'(

Whatever it takes make sure you're on that plane and get the hecks out of there!!!

I def. know where not to go if I ever get my turn

Sorry you had such a terrible experience

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Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Floritine on July 08, 2012, 11:25:01 PM
Hi Mandy, you have a lot of good friends here that care about you, hope your feeling well soon the pain will go and you will be a stronger women from it when you look back at it in time..

Hugs Tracy
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Morgan. on July 08, 2012, 11:53:53 PM
Good to hear from you Mandy. Glad that the pain has gone down a little. Keep us all updated, and stay strong.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: meia on July 09, 2012, 03:05:39 AM
Dear Mandy

i truly hope you are feeling better today?

I would just like to add that you are no alone and even though there is little solace in my words, what you are going through is fairly normal for srs. We all suffer in different ways and to make what we once had into the thing of beauty it will eventually become was never gonig to be painless.

Just try to forget what has already happened and dwelling on that because it will just make things seem much worse and concentrate on your pain management, making sure you are inspected regular. Also ask the doctors / nursing staff what complications will look like so you know in your own mind what to look for. Also i asusme you are dilating now? make sure you never drop you guard and stop dilating just because it hurt, the next few months are the most important

This is all just part of you rights to passage, many of us have done this and i can tell you it does get better, much much better.

Form what you have say i suspect it is just the pain correct? the surgery went fine?

You will be fine you just need to try take deep breaths, get what rest you can and look to managing the discomforts, it is what we all had to do i can assure you and drive our loved ones to dispair with our complaining but life gets better.

We all had a few weeks of hell but out of that you are reborn, that is a small price to pay

Sending lots of happy thoughts
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 09, 2012, 08:51:57 AM
Quote from: meia on July 09, 2012, 03:05:39 AM
Dear Mandy

i truly hope you are feeling better today?

I would just like to add that you are no alone and even though there is little solace in my words, what you are going through is fairly normal for srs. We all suffer in different ways and to make what we once had into the thing of beauty it will eventually become was never gonig to be painless.

Just try to forget what has already happened and dwelling on that because it will just make things seem much worse and concentrate on your pain management, making sure you are inspected regular. Also ask the doctors / nursing staff what complications will look like so you know in your own mind what to look for. Also i asusme you are dilating now? make sure you never drop you guard and stop dilating just because it hurt, the next few months are the most important

This is all just part of you rights to passage, many of us have done this and i can tell you it does get better, much much better.

Form what you have say i suspect it is just the pain correct? the surgery went fine?

You will be fine you just need to try take deep breaths, get what rest you can and look to managing the discomforts, it is what we all had to do i can assure you and drive our loved ones to dispair with our complaining but life gets better.

We all had a few weeks of hell but out of that you are reborn, that is a small price to pay

Sending lots of happy thoughts


dr pichet said to not start dialating till i get home which i will catch plane on sunday night. he said had to heal first. i woke up about an hour ago in agonizing pain with cathedar area burning really bad thanks to a screw up the drs assistant ms tak called my cell phone so i had her cell phone number and gave her a call she was nice but said dont worry take more pain medication. i have blood and urine running down my legs and muscles feel what i can only describe as when u have to pee really bad and let it all go at once that quick fluctation motion. i tried to press cathedar back in lots of pain but no good. i will call back and ask her to come over i am sure this is common but no one prepared me for it and i am freaking out right now.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 09, 2012, 09:06:15 AM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 09, 2012, 08:51:57 AM

dr pichet said to not start dialating till i get home which i will catch plane on sunday night. he said had to heal first. i woke up about an hour ago in agonizing pain with cathedar area burning really bad thanks to a screw up the drs assistant ms tak called my cell phone so i had her cell phone number and gave her a call she was nice but said dont worry take more pain medication. i have blood and urine running down my legs and muscles feel what i can only describe as when u have to pee really bad and let it all go at once that quick fluctation motion. i tried to press cathedar back in lots of pain but no good. i will call back and ask her to come over i am sure this is common but no one prepared me for it and i am freaking out right now.

The extended on-going pain, caused by issues with the catheter is NOT normal, not that I have seen or heard of it in any case.
What is normal, that post-op due to trauma the wee function may not work as is should - I had this issue.
Also having a new catheter re-inserted ouuuuuuuuuuch, and when finally Dr Kunaporn did it ... NO PROBLEM!
My catheter then had to stay in for 2 more days --- BUT, no way any leaking of blood and urine down my legs.
So, it seems as we not all the same, some of us get the worse of it.
Yet ---- and THIS shall pass too.
We pray for you sweetie to get better real soon.
Hug,
Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 09, 2012, 09:50:17 AM
Hi Mandy,

First of all I am glad you are feeling better. Second, you are vomiting due to pain. You are at risk to enter a state of shock due to the severe pain. Call the doctor and tell them to give you stronger pain killers. They are paid to look after you, remember that. Demand to be seen by the anesthesiologist, to get the best possible pain medications.
Also not dilating until you get home? Why is that? You vagina can close. Is that doctor insane? Demand to dilate in front of him, to see how much depth you have.
Also call the US Embassy for assistance. You and your doctor have agreed to a fee. From your side you have paid the fee. Now your doctor must do what he has been paid for. They must look after you. Otherwise ask for your money back, to be able to afford proper aftercare with another doctor.
Also traveling in a terrible pain is not recommended. In the worst case postpone the flight and stay there as long as needed at expense of your doctor. The doctor's fee covers all the possible complications that may arise from the surgery.
Unfortunately there are mean doctors around. I had an experience of that kind. If they are mean be mean back. Tell them that you will call all the Thai media in front of his office and disclose your case in public. Usually private clinics are scared to death of bad media attention and they will do anything it takes to make you happy.
I am sorry again that you have to go through this, but I hope that others will learn from your experience.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Elainagirl59 on July 09, 2012, 10:14:03 AM
Hi Mandy,

I am sorry to hear you are having such a terrible time with your complications.

I had my SRS with Dr Suporn, I appreciate that every surgeon has their
own specific dilation and recovery schedule. But I am really concerned for
you if you are instructed to not dilate till you return home.  Given everything
I was taught at the clinic and every experience I have read about, a week
without dilation right after SRS is not going to be good!

Dilation is difficult and usually painful.  I am sure the last thing that you want
right now is additional pain.  Inspite of that additonal pain.  If you don't dilate till
you get home who is going to teach you?  How will you know what is normal? 
How will you know what potential depth you have?  Do you have the proper supplies
for dilation?

Have you done any dilation since the packing was removed?  Has the Dr or a nurse done
a dilation?  I don't want to alarm you but if you are not dilating by now I am very
concerned for a positive result.

I just re-read some of your posts and another thought came up.  Are you having
bowel movements?  How's that for a personal question?  Straining to have a bowel movement
is very bad for the sutures.  Make sure you are eating a high-fiber diet and probably adding
some stool softeners.  Stay hydrated! 

I'm sending you positive energy for a healthy recovery.   

Best Wishes,
Elaina
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Kristyn on July 09, 2012, 11:05:54 AM
There is something seriously wrong with this Surgeon--if you can call him that--and his staff.  This guy should be shut down.  I'm sorry for what you are going through Mandy and you should demand better treatment.  DO NOT WAIT UNTIL YOU GET HOME TO DILATE!  Demand that a nurse will show you how to do this and to verify that all is OK.  This guy sounds like both a hack and an a$$hole!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Catherine Sarah on July 09, 2012, 11:06:38 AM
Hi Mandy,

Sorry to hear you aren't feeling well. Please use the advice both Swan and Elaina have given you seriously. I know you have matters to attend to on your return, but it is IMPERATIVE you are in good heath and condition BEFORE you return.

A dear friend of mine who was in Thailand 12 months ago has just started her recovery AFTER extensive post operative work on her bladder at her expense, which was a direct result of a complication from the surgery. (Urethral stitching failure) If she'd have stayed as Swan is suggesting she would not have had to go through this 12 months of pain and agony, let alone the expense.

Lotsa huggs
Catherine
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: meia on July 09, 2012, 11:20:06 AM
yes after reading you replys before you recently posted it sounded alot like my own surgery, however things do seem much worse they need to be showing you how to dilate, we had classes with Suporn and was dilating a week after surgery.

I very much doubt oyu should be waiting until you go home regardless of his technique. You paid so insist on the proper care
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: GhostTown11 on July 09, 2012, 11:31:17 AM
This thread needs to be stickied as a cautionary tale against ever going to Dr. Pichet :-\.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 09, 2012, 11:43:35 AM
i dont have much time untili i pass out again my HOTEL is M2 bangkok my room is 211. i tried to call dr and was told take thumb push it back in that did not work and the waves of pain are killing me i will take another morphine pill(they brought me 4 today) my 2nd in two hours and hopefully sleep. please someone i will payback for phone charges try to call another local dr who does this and i can talk too thanks my dr will send driver and get me in in the morning at 8 but that is 8 hours away and i only got 2 morphine left
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Catherine Sarah on July 09, 2012, 12:06:59 PM
Hope you can have as restful night as possible.

I don't know the legal ramifications of changing doctors, it may create more problems than solve.

Clearly what needs to be done is:

You need DIRECT and IMMEDIATE access to the surgeon

NO assistants. NO nurses. You've paid your Doctor for a procedure that is verging on substantial failure. You must DEMAND proper clinical post operative care, NOT a hotel room.

You must DEMAND the UNDIVIDED attention of the consulting surgeon. NO ONE else.

Your health is at stake and MUST take PRECIDENT over everything else.

You MUST INSIST on these measures. Changing 'camps' WILL be to your detriment.

These demands must be made directly to your surgeon, clearly and succinctly.

Use Google translate so it is clearly understood

Hope you recover quickly

Huggs
Catherine
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Kristyn on July 09, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
Dr Pichet is a former student of Dr Preecha and many have gone to Dr Preecha for revisions following surgery with Dr Pichet.  Here is Dr Preecha's website.  Maybe you could try and contact him ASAP.

http://pai.co.th/ (http://pai.co.th/)

PAI (Preecha Aesthetic Institute)
898/1 Sukumvit Soi 55 (Thong Lor)
Wattana, Bangkok, 10110 Thailand

Tel: (662)715-0111
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 09, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
went to ER last night and cathedar was removed and urethra was infected taking meds now and pain is blesedly gone well not gone but a whole lot less.... sorry for no update but i was not in my hotel room. THANK you all sooo much i know i can make it through anything with friends like you. I will sleep now (my first peacful sleep) and be on in a few hours once again thank you all so much
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 09, 2012, 07:40:20 PM
Mandy,

I am feeling better now. Can you pass urine without the catheter? Are you on antibiotics? Sounds like you are doing okay now. Please keep us informed because we are very worried about you.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: V M on July 09, 2012, 08:25:54 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 09, 2012, 07:23:37 PM
went to ER last night and cathedar was removed and urethra was infected taking meds now and pain is blesedly gone well not gone but a whole lot less.... sorry for no update but i was not in my hotel room. THANK you all sooo much i know i can make it through anything with friends like you. I will sleep now (my first peacful sleep) and be on in a few hours once again thank you all so much

Glad things are going better  :)   Hopefully you'll heal up quickly now

:icon_bunch:   Hugs   :icon_bunch:
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 09, 2012, 08:28:06 PM
2 different type of antibotics cephlexin and mon???? urine does come out way it should very slow and burning but dr said will go away from swealing and cath being in so long... omg listening to all of u over the years the pain im in now was how i figured it would be all along (not overwhelming just unconforatable) and i know from reading other posts normal urintation will occur in time. had my first real breakfast today at hotel directly fromhospital. Picture this 38yr woman recding almost bald(when went to er didnt have time to get wig) in a lacy top(breat forms not in im only a small a look like moobs) with shorts painted nails and toes in sandels. lol i got a few thai double takes but didnt care i was hungry and it was free
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 09, 2012, 08:49:10 PM
Fantastic :)
What about dilation? Did you get to talk to the doctor about that?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Elainagirl59 on July 09, 2012, 08:58:07 PM
This is great news Mandy!!

Removal of the catheter, antibiotics and some level of pain management are huge.
Keep the pressure on the Dr to start dilation.  You cannot afford to let time slip.

Best Wishes,
Elaina
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 09, 2012, 10:28:50 PM
he gave me dialators but insists to wait till next tuesday when i get home before i start i have to ky i brought with me. if anyone of you ladies would spare a little  time to help me start i know this may seem awkward but i need to do it. he says it will make scare tissue and bad to do which is the same thing he told juliemac on this forum she is no longer on here i believe but i remember her saying it somewhere.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 10, 2012, 01:18:05 AM
Yay! Glad to hear you're doing better, especially with the pain (and also they're dealing with the infection(s)...OMG I was worried about that; infections are not something to ignore)

Then of course there's the dilation issue, the going #2 issue, the not eating/very little drinking issue...the "in a hotel room, not a clinic" issue

etc etc....But now it seems to be on the upswing!  When you get back you'll deserve a vacation! Well...or something!

:-*
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 10, 2012, 01:54:07 AM
So nice to see you up and around a bit...Yay!!

I can also tell by your typing that your mind is a little more at ease since the pain level is less, that is very good!

Still...big hugs!!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Dahlia on July 10, 2012, 04:01:19 AM
Quote from: swan on July 09, 2012, 08:49:10 PM
Fantastic :)
What about dilation? Did you get to talk to the doctor about that?

That's part of his 'regime' and 'advice' he gives  his SRS patients...'start dilation when you're at home'= very far away on another continent.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Nicolette on July 10, 2012, 04:20:58 AM
I'm grateful for this account of GRS experience. But I'm so very much disturbed by it  :o. It certainly has factored into my decision making for my own GRS. I send my biggest wishes for quick recovery.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 10, 2012, 04:26:02 AM
Let us keep up positive support up for Mandy.

I haven't had surgery as yet but if any of the woman who have, can lend her some advice that would be good. You can pm her privately; or if you don't have the links pm me and I will send them on.

Also I think any links to support sites for post op woman she can contact in the USA could be good?

Mandy I'm not sure  where you live in the USA but if you can let people know so post op woman may be able to let  you know of urologists in your area. I suspect you may need advice from them.

Mandy if you wish to keep that private fine. I respect that but if you wish to  let me know where you are in the USA, I can do a match up service for people in your area. If any post op woman who wish to help can pm me with what state they are in I can act as a matching service.

I'm in Australia so I'm not much use anyway :laugh:

OK Mandy you'll be home soon. Keep going we are all here for you and you are sounding better.

Hugs Sister

Cindy
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: meia on July 10, 2012, 05:52:44 AM
Hola Mandy

i am verry glad to hear you sound a little better, i also had catheter issues, i was unable to pee for 3 weeks into my post op and it is really painful yes and prone to infection. As for dilation it is maybe wrong to go against the surgeon advice but you really should be dilaing verry soon after surgery, this can no be stressed enough to you and ideally they should of shown you also the correct way to do this.

I was here in susan for many years, left and now only have a long post count and unable to pm, however if someone is able to supply me an email i am verry happy to scan my dilation manual i had off Dr Suporn and put into a pdf thingie and email it to you or someone do that for me

Atleast oyu will have some good ideas on how dilation works as it is a verry good manual as oyu can expect off Suporn clinic.

Please keep the meds up and rest all the time and eat well, i hope oyu are going to the toilet much better now, i know the hell of that so oyu have my full understanding.

Stay happy "hug"

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 10, 2012, 07:32:43 AM
Quote from: Dahlia on July 10, 2012, 04:01:19 AM
That's part of his 'regime' and 'advice' he gives  his SRS patients...'start dilation when you're at home'= very far away on another continent.

That is what I thought I just didn't want to say it. You must dilate in front of him and see howmuch depth you have. Once you are far away you can do nothing to him.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 11, 2012, 01:56:42 AM
I've been using Skype to chat with Mandy...she enjoys it, and is recovering better, even getting up a bit and walking around.  ^-^

Amanda H is her Skype name...and she likes OJ and bagels, so please remember to bring some when you visit.  ;)

LOL...it feels really good to chat with her (and in Thailand! Thank goodness for the Interwebz!), and she's told me how much it means to her to be able to talk to someone.

*hugs*, all.

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 11, 2012, 03:10:10 AM
Great news Beth Andrea. If you are talking to her give her my love and best wishes

Cindy
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 11, 2012, 03:13:06 AM
Cindy: I  live in evansville, Indiana :-)

i recieved some very detailed dialating instructions so i am going to attempt tonight and see what i can do.

pain seems to be lessining but swealing hasnt gone down much at all. in fact it might be worse.
i did stick to my plan as best i could and being as sugery was on tues morning i made it 7 days until i had my first cig. i know this is a very very very stupid thing to do but it helped my emotional stability. i limit myself to one every 6 hours so four per day it gives me something to look forward too i guess. i know this is stupid but it is a mental crutch for me.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 11, 2012, 03:21:17 AM
I'll hold off on the anti-smoking lecture until you can get a good spanking :laugh:

You do sound better thank god
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 11, 2012, 03:29:35 AM
OMG, what a nightmare I just had...I'd dreamed that "I remembered I'd used male pronouns" in my previous post about Mandy and Skype, OJ and bagels etc.

Got up in a flash and checked the computer... :o

Everything was good.  :)

Damn, now I'm awake. Well, awake-ish.  ::)

Good morning!  :angel:

And now, back to bed. Good night!  :P
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Susan on July 11, 2012, 03:32:24 AM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 05, 2012, 06:50:36 PM
i ahve been given morphine once adayand a yellow green capsule it barleyy helps my legs are spasaming and cramping so bad i dont feels like a 4 day charliehorseblower area bleed all the time and sometime i lay in the blood four houras i just wish i could die this hurrts so bad

Potassium could be low, that would cause the leg cramps and they are not fun, I get them from time to time.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Julie Wilson on July 11, 2012, 07:50:21 PM
Quote from: Ms. OBrien on July 05, 2012, 10:34:48 PM
Without actually seeing the capsule, it is hard to say what it is.

It could be anything for acetaminophen to an anti-depressant.  You would have to post any words or numbers that are on it.

I hope removing the packing helps.  I know how painful surgery can be.  While I have not had SRS, I have had abdominal surgery.

Not that it matters but it's Tramadol.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 11, 2012, 09:50:09 PM
I dialted last night for first time. Started with smallest 0 and put condom over dialtor put ky on comdom and left in at 5" any farther hurt for 5 minutes then went to number 1 for 10minutes at about 4 3/4 i just inserted as far as i could comforatably get it then just set stop watch and looked at the ceiling.. Well i will be starting on my 4 a day of this from now on i think. Though i pocess no medical degree i think you ladies know considerably more of what you are talking about then my "DR" so i will take your advise not his and start now.

thank you

and a special thanks goes out to Beth!!! on my way to "DR" for checkup will post what i find when i get back latter on.

night all
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 11, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
Quotei just inserted as far as i could comforatably get it then just set stop watch and looked at the ceiling.

I've never been able to pride myself on my prowess in bed as a man, but this description certainly fit one or two women I dated...LOL

Yes, I have no shame.  :-X
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 11, 2012, 10:15:29 PM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on July 11, 2012, 10:10:57 PM
I've never been able to pride myself on my prowess in bed as a man, but this description certainly fit one or two women I dated...LOL

Yes, I have no shame.  :-X

Oh Beth.....now that was funny ;)   And so true lol

That's really a great update Mandy!! So proud of you for being strong and determined....you go girl!!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 11, 2012, 11:21:44 PM
Excellent! Something to laugh for a change  ::)

I hope Mandy can giggle along now - staring at ceiling...

Hugs,
Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Jamiep on July 11, 2012, 11:34:46 PM
Hi mandyh92,

I had a lot of anxiety following your experience to the point I had thought of trying to find your Doctor's phone # and calling, he should have kept you in the hospital. Phew. I'm sorry you are going through a difficult ordeal. I remember seeing a Canadian Doc on a transwoman & she talked about the dilating procedure. Happy for you that you are starting on this as you must Happy. Stay strong & I am sure you will be glad to be back in your own home. Have a safe flight on Sunday. Super that Beth Andrea skyped you, I forgot about that, I do have skype.
HUGS
Jamiep
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: meia on July 12, 2012, 04:53:49 AM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 11, 2012, 09:50:09 PM
I dialted last night for first time. Started with smallest 0 and put condom over dialtor put ky on comdom and left in at 5" any farther hurt for 5 minutes then went to number 1 for 10minutes at about 4 3/4 i just inserted as far as i could comforatably get it then just set stop watch and looked at the ceiling.. Well i will be starting on my 4 a day of this from now on i think. Though i pocess no medical degree i think you ladies know considerably more of what you are talking about then my "DR" so i will take your advise not his and start now.

thank you

and a special thanks goes out to Beth!!! on my way to "DR" for checkup will post what i find when i get back latter on.

night all

that is good Mandy

did the doctor tell you the post depth you have? i expect you already know but just to point out that is the target you should be aiming to dilate. Dilation is about challenging the width and depth to maintain and increase as possible. dilation will be you life for sometime so getting the technique early is verry important.

Give up smoking, you are holding back you recovery and even affecting the result.....bad girl!!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 12, 2012, 10:11:54 AM
Great news mandy

5" is good depth. Over time you can expand it even more. Have a safe flight back home.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: UCBerkeleyPostop on July 12, 2012, 11:42:04 PM
Good now that you are thinking about DEPTH and not DEATH like in your first post.  Best wishes!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 13, 2012, 08:03:57 AM
Ok, just chatted with Mandy...her laptop screen is broken now so she's using her phone, and finds it very difficult to post here. She asked me to give a brief update, and to let everyone know she won't be able to post until after Tuesday.

She's doing well, pain and bleeding is less, much less. She's looking forward to coming home on Sunday (I don't remember/can't figure out if that is Thai time or her local time...it could involve the next day/previous day, so...sometime soon!)

I can't imagine what it would have been like to go through this and not have Susan's available....thanks everyone!!

*hugs*

*high fives*

:)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 13, 2012, 08:17:59 AM
YAY.  I am so glad she is doing so much better.

Oh look even the ferrets are happy for her.

Ferret War dance! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W9AVvoQozzU#)

"War Dance" = "Happy Dance"
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 13, 2012, 09:24:40 PM
Did a video chat with her today. (big WOOT! to Skype--free video call Skype-->Skype, even from Thailand-US) She took me out to the street via her IPhone (WOOT! for IPhones!) and showed me the view at the hotel.

She sounds strong and is feeling very well. Wants to thank everyone for being there, it meant a lot to her.

You know, the doc has a bad (and probably well-earned) reputation, but once Mandy let her problems be known, they were taken care of. From my perspective, anyway.

The doc's dilation instructions are in the worst form of non-native English that I've ever heard, though. Thanks to whoever sent her GOOD instructions!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 13, 2012, 09:27:27 PM
I am glad she is getting stronger and will soon be home.

Thank You Beth for keeping us informed
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 14, 2012, 09:04:18 PM
She just left for the airport and the ride home!

Yay!

:)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 14, 2012, 09:12:48 PM
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Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 15, 2012, 01:21:23 AM
I won't rest easy till our girl checks in safe and sound in her own home :)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 15, 2012, 01:26:20 AM
I will be so glad to see her home. Thanks Beth Andrea for keeping us posted.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: juliemac on July 15, 2012, 06:57:36 AM
I read the post and thought back to my time there.
I loved Anne and Tic, the doctor not so much. I found him to be rude and less than for comming with the info I needed.
I can still see the room, next to the toilet right? Not allowed to open the curtains at all to look out.

Honestly, I wish I had saved more money and seen some one a lot better. The damage he did cannot be repaired.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: AbraCadabra on July 15, 2012, 08:20:45 AM
Quote from: juliemac on July 15, 2012, 06:57:36 AM
I read the post and thought back to my time there.
I loved Anne and Tic, the doctor not so much. I found him to be rude and less than for comming with the info I needed.
I can still see the room, next to the toilet right? Not allowed to open the curtains at all to look out.

Honestly, I wish I had saved more money and seen some one a lot better. The damage he did cannot be repaired.

So sad to read, have no words... what to say?
Cannot even feel good right now that I had it so much easier...

Some things just are, I guess.

Sorry to hear it...
I do hope Mandy will be OK, apart for just a not-so-good experience.
Axélle
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 15, 2012, 09:34:15 AM
Quote from: juliemac on July 15, 2012, 06:57:36 AM
I read the post and thought back to my time there.
I loved Anne and Tic, the doctor not so much. I found him to be rude and less than for comming with the info I needed.
I can still see the room, next to the toilet right? Not allowed to open the curtains at all to look out.

Honestly, I wish I had saved more money and seen some one a lot better. The damage he did cannot be repaired.

I have been curious ever since Mandy showed me her room...do you know why there was a window (with blinds, which can be opened only when in the bedroom  ???) between the bathroom and the main room? Maybe it's a Thai-culture thing?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 16, 2012, 10:18:47 PM
Has anyone heard from Mandy yet? It's been about 48 hours since I last heard from her...
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 16, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
En route?
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 16, 2012, 10:58:24 PM
Quote from: Michelle G on July 16, 2012, 10:32:45 PM
En route?

Hopefully. Checking the Skype messages, she said the taxi was there (7pm Saturday, my time PDT = +8hrs zulu)...and her plane would leave about midnight her time (about 15 hours later). So...that's only 33 hours. Given a couple layovers (one being 10 hours, iirc)...

I don't know...does 23 hours sound out of normal? I'm sure she's exhausted and will want to rest for a couple/3 days.

I'm just worried, that's all.

*biting fingernails*

I wish I could've been there. I could be a good attendant I think.

Eh, I'm just rambling.  :-\
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: V M on July 16, 2012, 11:43:24 PM
It is natural to feel concerned, we are all holding tight and waiting in anticipation for the good news of her safe return

Hugs
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 17, 2012, 12:19:30 AM
Going way back in my Skype logs, she did say it was a 20 hour flight back...


Oh. My. Gosh. I re-read the entire conversation (several days' worth) and she says she "won't be able to update until after Tuesday."

Jeez. *slaps forehead* Never mind, I was worrying for nothing.

Tuesday's tomorrow, but "after" = Wednesday.

Ok, now I can relax a little.   :-X

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Floritine on July 17, 2012, 03:18:21 AM
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Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Dawn Heart on July 17, 2012, 06:57:22 PM
I literally just saw this thread and although I am not even into transition yet, Mandy...I'm so sorry for what you went through with your SRS!!! My heart broke for you as I read about your suffering! When I got to your mention of an infection in the urethra, I thought to myself "what the hell did they do that caused Mandy an infection"? Did they make sure that the O.R. and their hands were clean? Did they do anything to make sure the catheter was sterile BEFORE inserting it? What is the problem with their practice over there when it comes to hygiene?

Those nurses you had that kept yelling at you need to leave the medical profession in my opinion.

I'm in hopes that you are healing well and in much LESS pain than before!

Sending you support and hugs,

Dawn
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: mm on July 17, 2012, 10:33:56 PM
An urethra inflection is very common when and after you have a catheter. Drugs usually clear it up quickly.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 18, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
Back in good OL America!! wow the last three weeks of my life have been a whirlwind. I can honestly say without your support and love i would not have mentally/physically pulled through this. What was supposed to be the pincale event of my life but turned into a horror movie. But everything now seems to be ironing itself out thanks to all of you.  Still incredibly SORE 32hour airplane ride really didnt help the area at all. I had a checkup with my GP about 2 hours ago and she was very pleased with results and said that it looked very good. I have been dialting regulary and with little to no discomfort.

I was wondering if anyone can tell me from experience how long(average) it should take for swealing to go down enough where i can
not have to use the donut anylonger after a few hours on that donut it is really uncomforatable.

Juliemac i had the room right next to the bathroom also. Interesting Side note i think all the nurses are homeless because they all sleep
everywhere all over the clinic (couch in lobby,chair,floor,ect...)

One day i would like to have a Susans get together where i can give you ALL one big hug.

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Constance on July 18, 2012, 01:07:50 PM
Mandy, it is so good to hear that you're doing better.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: crazy old bat on July 18, 2012, 01:15:47 PM
She's Alive..... Aliiiiiiiiiiiiiiiive! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OiBtx18jc4Q#)


Glad to see you're ok:)
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Deila on July 18, 2012, 02:09:10 PM
glad your okay! I stopped using my donut pillow around month 7. but most people dont need it after month 3! I hope you are one of them!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Michelle G on July 18, 2012, 03:04:21 PM
So so happy to see you back home safe, sound, healthy and happy!!!

Nice to see your GP approves your progress, that is really important!
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: eli77 on July 18, 2012, 03:08:05 PM
Really glad you are okay Mandy.

Quote from: mandyh92 on July 18, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
I was wondering if anyone can tell me from experience how long(average) it should take for swealing to go down enough where i can
not have to use the donut anylonger after a few hours on that donut it is really uncomforatable.

I didn't like the doughnut pillow and didn't use it after the first week. I found just a soft cushion to be more comfortable.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: sweetie87 on July 18, 2012, 04:18:14 PM
Hi Mandy,
Wow girl you finally made it home! I have been reading your thread for the last week or so and it feels great to see how you are doing a lot better lately. The great support from all the girls here is so amazing, Susans is such a great place!  :) I hope you will have a good recovery back at home. At least you will be able to recover at home much better than you would in the hotel. I'm sending you all my best wishes for your recovery!

Sweetie
PS on a side note: I was able to sit comfortably for many hours w/o donut cushion after around 4-5 weeks. Swelling went down quite fast (after 2-3 months every swelling was gone). But remember everyone is different. I hope dilation will be okay and if you need any instruction from my Suporn guidebook, I am happy to send it, but I figured you got detailed instructions already? Take care and keep us posted.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Dahlia on July 18, 2012, 05:15:44 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 18, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
Interesting Side note i think all the nurses are homeless because they all sleep
everywhere all over the clinic (couch in lobby,chair,floor,ect...)
...........................that's a pretty ignorant thing to say.....it's a thai habit to take naps 'on the spot' when they get the chance...
Thais raise very, very early to go to work and sometimes work even 2 jobs.
That means  coming home very, very late to sleep for a short while to rise very, very early to go to work.
Often travelling quite a distance.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: dejan160 on July 18, 2012, 07:26:54 PM
Mandy,

Welcome back to Susan's. We all wish you a speedy recovery:) I am super happy the things worked out well for you.
Let me answer your question about the swelling. I am not prone to swelling but my vagina looked very (read extremely) ugly the first month after the surgery. It takes months until it starts looking normal. I kind of distrusted my doctor when he was saying it was swelling, but he was totally right. He gave me a close to genetic vagina :)

It is normal to feel discomfort after the surgery for weeks, and I guess that is also normal. Make sure you clear that infection well because urinary infections can be very boring:)

What can I say, welcome back home and congratulations for becoming who you were ment to me A woman with a vagina. It looks like your dream has become reality now :) This is just the biginning of the new life for you and I really wish you a fortunate and a long one :)

Love you

Anna
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Beth Andrea on July 18, 2012, 11:35:37 PM
Yay, she's back in the good ol' USA!

...and now I can get some restful sleep... :P
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Jamie D on July 19, 2012, 01:10:43 AM
Thanks, B.A.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: V M on July 19, 2012, 02:21:05 AM
Glad you are home and things are going better for you Mandy  :)

Hugs
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Cindy on July 19, 2012, 02:50:13 AM
Welcome home Mandy.

You gave us all quite  a scare.

Hugs

Cindy
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: meia on July 19, 2012, 02:58:56 AM
Verry glad you are back and safe Mandy

Srs is stressful huh, just get well soon and do all can to enjoy life
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: elle2011 on July 19, 2012, 04:47:15 AM
glad you are okay mandy <3
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on July 19, 2012, 10:42:53 AM
Be it ever so humble, there's no place like home.

I am glad you made it, Mandy.  And that you are doing a lot better.

Lighting candles, saying spells and sending heal energy to you.

Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: juliemac on July 19, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
Quote from: mandyh92 on July 18, 2012, 12:58:46 PM
Juliemac i had the room right next to the bathroom also. Interesting Side note i think all the nurses are homeless because they all sleep
everywhere all over the clinic (couch in lobby,chair,floor,ect...)

He has them stay where they can get to you fast. They do have homes and families :)
When I left, he told me to find dilation instructions on the internet. Nothing written. Very few care instructions about cleanliness, exercise etc.
Did you meet Anne and Tic? I loved them both. Good people. Not trained nurses, but he trained them fairly well.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: jessicas37 on July 20, 2012, 12:53:28 PM
Quote from: juliemac on July 19, 2012, 11:24:22 PM
He has them stay where they can get to you fast. They do have homes and families :)
When I left, he told me to find dilation instructions on the internet. Nothing written. Very few care instructions about cleanliness, exercise etc.
Did you meet Anne and Tic? I loved them both. Good people. Not trained nurses, but he trained them fairly well.

I juat thought it sort of odd seeing them sprawled out everywhere but that makes me feel good he did that.

Anne is the stockier one with little to no english skills? Tic i am unsure of. Ms Tak helped alot towards the end at first

she came off as really mean cause she kept yelling at me to stop crying but towards the end i started to really like her. Dr

Pichet has no bedside maner but he did fix the problem with the cathedar and said i could contact with any questions..

I stayed across street at hotel. I got very poorly written dialation instructions something to the point of

Use #0 for 15min remove and use #1 for 15min once daily for 2 weeks. then use 0 1 2 for 15 minutes each twice a day for 2

weeks and finally after week 4 use 0,1,2,3 for 15 ea three times a day for life...... so by end of 4th week he wants 2 hours a

day. i got alot better instructions off here :-) so the only thing i will use of his on that topic is the dialtors. i know you

warned me about him months ago but i had to work within the budget that i had. the first 2 weeks were touchy but with help

i was able to pull through. just wish was a dr in my area who was familiar with these surgeries. I thought last night that

i pulled a stich cause pain was horrible so i went to ER(not looking forward to that bill) they treated me good and checked

stiches and said all good i have what looks like a blister that popped (sorta bright white patch) on bottom of vagina and dr at

er said probably heat blister just put neosporin on it (i clean 3 times day with bactine ointment) so i just said ok. But it still

weirded me out.
Title: Re: stuck in thialand
Post by: contender523 on July 20, 2012, 05:22:05 PM
So glad to hear you made it back safe!  :D