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Title: Jill Stein And The Green Party On Protecting Female Only Spaces
Post by: Shana A on October 09, 2012, 07:36:29 AM
Post by: Shana A on October 09, 2012, 07:36:29 AM
Jill Stein And The Green Party On Protecting Female Only Spaces
Peter J Reilly, Contributor
10/09/2012 @ 6:50AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/10/09/jill-stein-and-the-green-party-on-protecting-female-only-spaces/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/10/09/jill-stein-and-the-green-party-on-protecting-female-only-spaces/)
You can see radical feminist influence in the Green Party Platform:
Since the beginning of what we call civilization, when men's dominance over women was firmly established, until the present day, our history has been marred with oppression of and brutality to women. The Green Party deplores this system of male domination, known as patriarchy, in all its forms, both subtle and overt — from oppression, inequality, and discrimination to all forms of violence against women and girls including rape, trafficking, forced sex which is also rape, slavery, prostitution and violence against women within marriage and relationships and in all institutions.
There is also a pretty strong stand on transgender rights:
The Green Party affirms the right of all persons to self-determination with regard to gender identity and sex. We therefore support the right of intersex and transgender individuals to be free from coercion and involuntary assignment of gender or sex. We affirm the right of access to medical and surgical treatment for assignment or reassignment of gender or sex, based on informed consent.
What the platform does not seem to address is the tension that some see between the two movements.
Peter J Reilly, Contributor
10/09/2012 @ 6:50AM
http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/10/09/jill-stein-and-the-green-party-on-protecting-female-only-spaces/ (http://www.forbes.com/sites/peterjreilly/2012/10/09/jill-stein-and-the-green-party-on-protecting-female-only-spaces/)
You can see radical feminist influence in the Green Party Platform:
Since the beginning of what we call civilization, when men's dominance over women was firmly established, until the present day, our history has been marred with oppression of and brutality to women. The Green Party deplores this system of male domination, known as patriarchy, in all its forms, both subtle and overt — from oppression, inequality, and discrimination to all forms of violence against women and girls including rape, trafficking, forced sex which is also rape, slavery, prostitution and violence against women within marriage and relationships and in all institutions.
There is also a pretty strong stand on transgender rights:
The Green Party affirms the right of all persons to self-determination with regard to gender identity and sex. We therefore support the right of intersex and transgender individuals to be free from coercion and involuntary assignment of gender or sex. We affirm the right of access to medical and surgical treatment for assignment or reassignment of gender or sex, based on informed consent.
What the platform does not seem to address is the tension that some see between the two movements.
Title: Re: Jill Stein And The Green Party On Protecting Female Only Spaces
Post by: suzifrommd on October 09, 2012, 07:53:42 AM
Post by: suzifrommd on October 09, 2012, 07:53:42 AM
From the article:
Exactly who does Mr. Reilly think SHOULD decide that male-bodied person is female? Her therapist? The government? Other people? Would Mr. Reilly want those people also to decide what gender HE is?
A lot easier to say you don't like something than to come up with a way to fix it.
QuoteThese "gender identity" laws are so broadly written as to allow any male who decides that he feels female to access a space. Surely, we can do better. Surely, the Green Party can do better.
Exactly who does Mr. Reilly think SHOULD decide that male-bodied person is female? Her therapist? The government? Other people? Would Mr. Reilly want those people also to decide what gender HE is?
A lot easier to say you don't like something than to come up with a way to fix it.
Title: Re: Jill Stein And The Green Party On Protecting Female Only Spaces
Post by: MaidofOrleans on October 09, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
Post by: MaidofOrleans on October 09, 2012, 11:42:36 PM
Radfems are silly. They act like being born a women was some kind of accomplishment rather than a statistical probability.
They claim to want equality but want "womens only spaces"
Which do you want Radfems? If there is gender equality you don't need separate spaces.
I'm sure racist white people really enjoyed their "whites only spaces" so it makes sense that sexist transphobic cis-women would want their "women only spaces"
The fact of the matter is that Radfems are no different than the "patriarchy" they claim to fight. They don't want equality, they just want separation but in their favor like any power hungry vulture waiting to swoop in.
They claim to want equality but want "womens only spaces"
Which do you want Radfems? If there is gender equality you don't need separate spaces.
I'm sure racist white people really enjoyed their "whites only spaces" so it makes sense that sexist transphobic cis-women would want their "women only spaces"
The fact of the matter is that Radfems are no different than the "patriarchy" they claim to fight. They don't want equality, they just want separation but in their favor like any power hungry vulture waiting to swoop in.