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Title: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
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Tony Grew
The White House has indicated that even if new federal hate crimes legislation passes Congress today, the President will veto it.
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CWA Thanks President Bush for 'Hate Crimes' Veto Pledge
Christian News Wire (http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/274263020.html)
We thank President Bush for honoring our nation's constitutional tradition of equal protection under the law," said Matt Barber, Policy Director for Cultural Issues at Concerned Women for America. The Executive Office of the President has issued a statement promising to veto "hate crimes" bill H.R. 1592 should it be approved in Congress today.
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HR 1592 did pass today
Tony Grew
The White House has indicated that even if new federal hate crimes legislation passes Congress today, the President will veto it.
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CWA Thanks President Bush for 'Hate Crimes' Veto Pledge
Christian News Wire (http://www.christiannewswire.com/news/274263020.html)
We thank President Bush for honoring our nation's constitutional tradition of equal protection under the law," said Matt Barber, Policy Director for Cultural Issues at Concerned Women for America. The Executive Office of the President has issued a statement promising to veto "hate crimes" bill H.R. 1592 should it be approved in Congress today.
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HR 1592 did pass today
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 01:44:51 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 01:44:51 PM
Bush would veto this bill.....
Right... how could I be so stupid to think that he'd let this one pass. I'm sick and tired of this president.
Cindi
Right... how could I be so stupid to think that he'd let this one pass. I'm sick and tired of this president.
Cindi
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 01:48:07 PM
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 01:48:07 PM
'Hate Crimes' Vote on National Prayer Day Angers Some Christians
CNSNews (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200705/NAT20070503a.html)
By Randy Hall
"There will be no shortage of things to pray for on this National Day of Prayer as the Congress takes a dark first step toward criminalizing public statements of sincerely held religious beliefs," Rev. Louis Sheldon, founder and chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a news release.
CNSNews (http://www.cnsnews.com/news/viewstory.asp?Page=/Nation/archive/200705/NAT20070503a.html)
By Randy Hall
"There will be no shortage of things to pray for on this National Day of Prayer as the Congress takes a dark first step toward criminalizing public statements of sincerely held religious beliefs," Rev. Louis Sheldon, founder and chairman of the Traditional Values Coalition, said in a news release.
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 02:11:15 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 02:11:15 PM
I've read the bill. I see nothing wherein upstanding "Christians" would be persecuted for their right to free speech. The bill opposes only "violent" crimes that produce "bodily harm". What in the world are they concerned about?
Oh.... it has the homosexual thing in it. Just put it in print and they will oppose it.
Talk about misrepresentation!
Cindi
Oh.... it has the homosexual thing in it. Just put it in print and they will oppose it.
Talk about misrepresentation!
Cindi
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
Post by: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 06:53:07 PM
One of the articles I read stated that some of the religious right even put up Wanted Posters with Jesus on them. ::) I just wish that some of the faithful would take 20 minutes and read through the bill twice and then realise how much they have been lied to by their "leaders".
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 06:58:01 PM
Post by: cindianna_jones on May 03, 2007, 06:58:01 PM
It's amazing how many people just soak in the drivel that their religious leaders spew. It didn't even take me twenty minutes to read this thing.... both the senate and house versions.
I don't suppose we would be having this bill proposed if there hadn't been extraordinary violence against us in the first place? Why do these people think that this thing was even created?
Oh... and I hope you feel better LIT. Sleep well. It's almost weekend time.
Cindi
I don't suppose we would be having this bill proposed if there hadn't been extraordinary violence against us in the first place? Why do these people think that this thing was even created?
Oh... and I hope you feel better LIT. Sleep well. It's almost weekend time.
Cindi
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: Hazumu on May 03, 2007, 07:13:55 PM
Post by: Hazumu on May 03, 2007, 07:13:55 PM
Let's see-- what if there were a grisly murder at the home of Mary Cheney, with homophobic slurs scrawled on the walls of the house.
Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church is afraid they can't threaten to picket the funeral with their hate slogans and extort a ton of money from daddy to not to...
Right -- religious freedom -- free speech -- ...i see...
Karen
Fred Phelps and the Westboro Baptist Church is afraid they can't threaten to picket the funeral with their hate slogans and extort a ton of money from daddy to not to...
Right -- religious freedom -- free speech -- ...i see...
Karen
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: Attis on May 03, 2007, 07:40:35 PM
Post by: Attis on May 03, 2007, 07:40:35 PM
I may not like hate crimes bills, but this veto sends a darker message that possibly hurting people who are gay/bi/lesbian/etc is a-okay by law.
-- Brede
-- Brede
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: Chaunte on May 06, 2007, 07:27:34 AM
Post by: Chaunte on May 06, 2007, 07:27:34 AM
Quote from: Attis on May 03, 2007, 07:40:35 PM
I may not like hate crimes bills, but this veto sends a darker message that possibly hurting people who are gay/bi/lesbian/etc is a-okay by law.
-- Brede
I couldn't agree more...
Chaunte
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: Laura Elizabeth Jones on May 06, 2007, 08:52:01 AM
Post by: Laura Elizabeth Jones on May 06, 2007, 08:52:01 AM
Yeah, that is message that I get from this bill.
Title: Re: Bush will veto gay hate crimes bill
Post by: SusanK on May 06, 2007, 06:27:36 PM
Post by: SusanK on May 06, 2007, 06:27:36 PM
Quote from: LostInTime on May 03, 2007, 01:04:13 PM
The White House has indicated that even if new federal hate crimes legislation passes Congress today, the President will veto it.
Well, it sure will be a good test of Congress and the Senators and Representatives, and especially the Presidential candidates. Are there enough votes to override the veto? They can rest assured it will be remembered in 2008. We can hope, but I'm not holding my breath.
--Susan--