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Title: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: SandraJane on November 20, 2012, 11:51:12 PM
Post by: SandraJane on November 20, 2012, 11:51:12 PM
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Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Posted in: New Zealand Daily News, By GayNZ.com Daily News staff - 16th November 2012
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Julianne Kramer
Transgender advocacy group Agender has written an open letter to the family, friends and colleagues of killed chopper pilot Julianne Kramer, urging them to respect her gender identity.
The 52-year-old chief pilot and instructor at Wakatipu Aero Club was killed last week when the Robinson 22 helicopter she was piloting crashed into Criffel Range in the Cardrona Valley.
While she was transgender and identified as female, police and subsequently media have referred to her as male at the request of her family.
Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Posted in: New Zealand Daily News, By GayNZ.com Daily News staff - 16th November 2012
http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_12560.php (http://www.gaynz.com/articles/publish/2/article_12560.php)
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Julianne Kramer
Transgender advocacy group Agender has written an open letter to the family, friends and colleagues of killed chopper pilot Julianne Kramer, urging them to respect her gender identity.
The 52-year-old chief pilot and instructor at Wakatipu Aero Club was killed last week when the Robinson 22 helicopter she was piloting crashed into Criffel Range in the Cardrona Valley.
While she was transgender and identified as female, police and subsequently media have referred to her as male at the request of her family.
Title: Re: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 02:05:59 AM
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 02:05:59 AM
Wait... can someone clear this up for me? Was she a FtM? Or the other way around? I dunno if I should be outraged or not since I can't make heads or tails of the situation.
Title: Re: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: Cindy on November 27, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
Post by: Cindy on November 27, 2012, 03:00:08 AM
She was an MtF who wished her true gender to be acknowledged at her death but her family have rejected her last wishes and refer to her as male.
This, sadly is not uncommon. I look upon it as one of the most profound insults a family can ever give to a family member who they have never loved.
I am not Maori and she was not. But she loved her land. I hope this covers it and my apologies to my Maori Sisters if it is incorrect or disrespectful to anyone but the family concerned.
Kai hamuti hūnuku
Cindy James.
This, sadly is not uncommon. I look upon it as one of the most profound insults a family can ever give to a family member who they have never loved.
I am not Maori and she was not. But she loved her land. I hope this covers it and my apologies to my Maori Sisters if it is incorrect or disrespectful to anyone but the family concerned.
Kai hamuti hūnuku
Cindy James.
Title: Re: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 03:09:16 AM
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 03:09:16 AM
*jaw drop* OH THAT IS LOW! I don't care how much you don't like it. You respect the wishes of the dead! What they did is just not on!
Sorry for the rage. As a fellow Kiwi and part Maori this hits me even worse. Especially since I could risk that too.
Sorry for the rage. As a fellow Kiwi and part Maori this hits me even worse. Especially since I could risk that too.
Title: Re: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: Cindy on November 27, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
Post by: Cindy on November 27, 2012, 03:17:09 AM
Quote from: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 03:09:16 AM
*jaw drop* OH THAT IS LOW! I don't care how much you don't like it. You respect the wishes of the dead! What they did is just not on!
Sorry for the rage. As a fellow Kiwi and part Maori this hits me even worse. Especially since I could risk that too.
I'm sorry if my Maori does not convey my rage and please forgive me if I have desecrated your language. But I find this particular scenario, that I have seen before and it is so bloody cruel. We at Susan's have had people we know and love buried under their male names by families that I could only say cursed and hated them.
The total insult.
I'll stop there otherwise I will have to ban myself.
Go in Peace
Cindy
Title: Re: NZ- Agender urges respect for killed trans pilot's identity
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 03:35:03 AM
Post by: Solaela on November 27, 2012, 03:35:03 AM
It's ok. You're not in the wrong. I'm more outraged at them for doing that to her. What I ment was since I'm of their culture too the fact they did that is hitting home a lot worse than if it was in another country.