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Title: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 01:07:33 PM
I'm researching on behalf of a friend - does anyone know whether there are states in the US where you can change your gender from F to M without having any surgery/hormones, but just living in role as male? And if so, what are the criteria?
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: ativan on December 28, 2012, 01:24:59 PM
Post by: ativan on December 28, 2012, 01:24:59 PM
http://transequality.org/Resources/DL/DL_policies.html (http://transequality.org/Resources/DL/DL_policies.html)
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on December 28, 2012, 01:29:29 PM
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on December 28, 2012, 01:29:29 PM
Many states require a letter from a registered therapist to change the DL.
Title: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 01:33:10 PM
Thanks for this, I'm trying to do ongoing reassurance online, it really helps having quick responses!
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: JessicaH on December 28, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
Post by: JessicaH on December 28, 2012, 02:17:27 PM
I hear it's easily done by getting an orchi. Doctor writes letter saying Irreversible Surgical proceedure has been done. There is a doc in Atlanta that will do it without a therapist letter even for about $2k. http://www.grsatlanta.com/ (http://www.grsatlanta.com/)
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 02:35:42 PM
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 02:35:42 PM
Thanks, but that is for MTA, not FTA :). I'm trying to help him find out what his options are for transitioning away from female anatomy without having to end up very male physically.
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: ativan on December 28, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
Post by: ativan on December 28, 2012, 02:57:28 PM
This brings up something that is really unnecessary. Gender Markers on documents, DL, Passports, etc.
A person looking at any of those, is going to assume you are a certain gender, or not. Is it that important?
And hair color. ->-bleeped-<-. people dye their hair. Is it that important? Colored contacts...
You are the gender you are. Regardless of presentation. It's no bodies damn business.
I just looked through all the states on that link. What about Androgyne or non-binary people?
I'm amazed at some of the twists and turns.
And a couple, after getting a crap load of documents, it's up to the dept manager? omg...
That's certainly a qualified person. The manager at the county DMV.
It should be as simple as checking the box you want. Or don't check one and don't get a marker.
And the lack of FTM change procedures for markers is pretty much non existant.
I know this has all been said before, but I just can't get over why anyone needs a marker on anything.
Ativan >:( grumble grumble
A person looking at any of those, is going to assume you are a certain gender, or not. Is it that important?
And hair color. ->-bleeped-<-. people dye their hair. Is it that important? Colored contacts...
You are the gender you are. Regardless of presentation. It's no bodies damn business.
I just looked through all the states on that link. What about Androgyne or non-binary people?
I'm amazed at some of the twists and turns.
And a couple, after getting a crap load of documents, it's up to the dept manager? omg...
That's certainly a qualified person. The manager at the county DMV.
It should be as simple as checking the box you want. Or don't check one and don't get a marker.
And the lack of FTM change procedures for markers is pretty much non existant.
I know this has all been said before, but I just can't get over why anyone needs a marker on anything.
Ativan >:( grumble grumble
Title: Re: FTA - gender change without surgery?
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
Post by: Padma on December 28, 2012, 03:35:16 PM
I know what you mean. But if someone is androgyne but prefers to be gendered one way than the other (in general), it helps if you have a flag/title on your paperwork. I made the effort required to have Ms on my DL and bank accounts and so on, because it helps people not to assume I'm male. Compromises, compromises.