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Video: Glenn Beck Mocks Female Soldiers as "Transgendered Breast Cancer Survivor, Dwarf Cross Dresser"

By Michael Allen, Fri, February 01, 2013

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Conservative radio host Glenn Beck slammed the Pentagon's decision to lift the ban on women serving in combat on his Thursday show (video below).

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"The enemy is not going to cower in defeat because we have a female, Hispanic, Eskimo, dwarf cross dresser and some handi-capable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity. Nope, that's not going to do it. You gotta kill them. That's how you make people cower in defeat."

Let me get this straight this out shape old guy is saying women aren't fit for combat???? :eusa_think: Yeah whatever!!!

Quote from: Zythyra on February 02, 2013, 08:31:33 PM
"The enemy is not going to cower in defeat because we have a female, Hispanic, Eskimo, dwarf cross dresser and some handi-capable, transgendered breast cancer survivor as a soldier on the front line ready to unleash an attack of unparalleled diversity. Nope, that's not going to do it. You gotta kill them. That's how you make people cower in defeat."

Actually, the Allies won WWII (the last war you could say America ever won)... thanks largely to one British gay guy, Alan Turing. Also the reason we have an internet, not to put too fine a point on it.  Didn't stop them from torturing him into suicide, of course. Schmuck Beck.

  I don't care for Mr. Beck, But I have to agree with him on this.  You should listen to the whole commentary.  He admits his shortcomings.  Even though the above snippet is very crude, he has a good point here.  This is about women in combat roles and not gays in the military, which is another subject.  Very few women can do these roles, but there is a strain in the camaraderie in such units where women are already in place.  There were in the past rule changes to accommodate women in noncombat and marginal combat units that the cost to implement these changes had put a strain on the military budget that nobody foresaw. 
  My uncle and myself both served on aircraft carriers and we both agree that they do not belong in a combatant sardine can with 5,000 men in it.  My two nephews agreed that from their observations that the Navy is too lax on the relationships between male and female sailors on the amphibious ships they did training on overseas.  They saw a lot of pregnancies caused during the long cruises in these women.  The Navy has to do the transfers before the third trimester to transfer these women to shore or to home.  By the time these women showed, it is too late for these transfers to far shore bases in which there are no real safe bases in the Persian Gulf/ Indian Ocean theater. 
  The Army is quite stringent with the relationships between the women and men in their support units that they were surprised of what they saw on board ship.  Both of them were in combat units on the front line. 

  Joelene

I'll admit I didn't watch the whole clip there is only so much of that guy I can take. :icon_blahblah: He's not worth 14 minutes of my time.

How many wars has Glenn Beck fought in besides the ones in his head?

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on February 02, 2013, 10:36:11 PM
How many wars has Glenn Beck fought in besides the ones in his head?

Born in 1964, too young for Viet Nam and too old for Iraq, he has done well in his battle with alcoholism and substance abuse.

In the video, Beck states,

This is a disastrous idea.  It will not only weaken our military, but put women's lives at risk.  Because they'll (the politicians) just lower the (physical) standards (to allow women in combat).  This is not a game.  This is not a chance to show "progress."  Defending America should be left to those most physically capable of doing so.... Shaping our military policies to fit political correctness or political agendas, only hinders our military, and our capabilities, and quite honestly, only gets more people killed in the long run.

It is difficult to disagree with that summation.

If the standards are not lowered, I have no qualms about letting women into combat units.

What a filthy old man. I hope he gets beaten up by a female, hispanic, transgendered midget in an eskimo costume.

Quote from: Heather on February 02, 2013, 10:24:00 PM
I'll admit I didn't watch the whole clip there is only so much of that guy I can take. :icon_blahblah: He's not worth 14 minutes of my time.

I could only listen to the first 4.30 minutes.

Z

I didn't bother with the video because I figured it would just stir up bad emotions.

There is a difference between being a woman and a woman with disabilities,short in height and her dress along with being a different race.He may have a point on woman *as a gender* in such a case but he does NOT have a point when race is thrown into the mix or things that should not even play a role.

Quote from: Zythyra on February 03, 2013, 06:11:45 AM
I could only listen to the first 4.30 minutes.

Z

I made it about a few minutes in and was like OK another conservative ranting about people they don't like which seems to be everybody that's not a rich white male what's new?  :o

As former military, and as someone who has served in combat and who has taken enemy lives... Mr. Beck is full of sh!t. Period. He has no clue. And when I say taken lives, I mean face to face, upfront and personal. Not shooting targets from a chopper/plane or launching missiles off a ship to some far away target. There are several other countries that allow women in combat, Israel is one Poland, Romania, Australia, Norway, Sweden, France, and Finland are a few others.

Are all people qualified for combat duty? No. But there are many males that for many reasons (health, religion, etc.) including some guys who simply don't have the stomach for it, that pass on combat duty. They serve in other roles. I know not every woman is capable of combat duty on the front-lines, but believe me, there are some that are. I've met and have seen what they can do. Should standards be lowered? Absolutely not. But if a person can pass whatever physical training or requirements necessary for combat duty, that person (regardless of gender or sexual orientation) should be allowed to serve. Period. It's only a matter of time before transgendered people are included as well. I and a few others I know are proof of that.

Mr. Beck needs to focus on his own personal issues, before judging others. His veiled discriminatory diatribes, which he tries to conceal as his "genuine concern for this nation" are garbage. I see now why he was kicked off Fox News... he was even too nuts for them. Wow.  :rolleyes:

It's called misogyny.  However, Glen Beck is a buffoon so I don't pay any mind to anything he has to say.

the fat ass is probably 10 years younger than me but make no mistake, on a hand to had combat he will be death in less than a minute...

Even if I was weaker than mos man, a gun is a great equalizer...


In combat performance and survivability is dependent in chance and training...

Ok, I hate to admit it, but he makes a couple of good points. I don't like Glenn Beck overall. I disagree with a lot of what he says.

Also note that I don't mind women joining the military.

However, the standards should not be lowered. Also, political correctness isn't important. "Are they good at their jobs? That's all that matters." Yes, Beck did say that.

Beck may not have served in any wars and isn't capable of meeting the physical standards. However, he admitted to not being able to meet the physical standards ("The standards are there to keep guys like me out." ) and to not knowing anything about the minute specifics of war. "I don't know my ass from my elbow when it comes to this stuff, so let's ask a general."

He admitted to his faults and made some valid points. Women should meet the same physical standards as men. Furthermore, political correctness is absolute hogwash. That's like saying that colleges should set aside a specific number of seats for black admission candidates so that the school can be more diverse. Such a policy was overturned by the Supreme Court, by the way.

His points about tapes of terrorists beheading women or female POWs being raped is silly, though. If society can't stomach that, it's their problem. Military members should know the risks.

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 09:09:09 AM
I made it about a few minutes in and was like OK another conservative ranting about people they don't like which seems to be everybody that's not a rich white male what's new?  :o

Finally, I'd suggest you guys actually watch the video and forget that Glenn Beck is talking. Who's talking doesn't matter as much as what was being said. It seems to me that the only people who are ranting about people they don't like are you guys.

I don't like liberals; I don't like conservatives. I don't think either side is completely right. I also don't stereotype people and dismiss everything that people say just because they're conservatives. Get out of your biased heads.

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 11:58:41 AM
Get out of your biased heads.

No way way, Girl! My bias is my compass....it guides me in my mission

I've heard enough of Glen Beck's musings to know what he's about.  No I will not spend 14 minutes listening to one of his diatribes just because it may include a couple of sentences with actual reason in them, nestled somewhere beside or otherwise in the midst of a "hilarious" racist/xenophobic/transphobic/disabilist joke that bizarrely seems to be pro-cancer.  Talk about covering all the bases.

If women are qualified for combat and they want to serve in that way, they should be allowed to.  Whether they should lower standards is an issue maybe worthy of discussion, but has anybody said they will do that?   Until then, why is it coming up?  It's an argument against something that doesn't exist.  It's fear of change and a little, maybe lot, fear/bias against women that makes people resist this change.

Well, it's still an issue that could be discussed to ensure it doesn't happen.

It was more than just a couple of sentences that had reason, but whatever floats your boat. Just don't expect to have credibility in discussing something you didn't even listen to.

Lacking credibility or expertise on the subject of Glen Beck actually does float my boat, tbh.

Quote from: Jen on February 03, 2013, 12:43:24 PM
Lacking credibility or expertise on the subject of Glen Beck actually does float my boat, tbh.

Okay. Doesn't change the fact that he did make some good points.

That man?could be making the greatest point in the world. But I'm still not going listen to because he doesn't know how to deliver his message he just comes off like he's a jerk. And I tune jerks out. But the first thing that came to mind while watching this is how is this out of shape guy going to tell anyone their not fit for combat! ::)

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 01:38:53 PM
But the first thing that came to mind while watching this is how is this out of shape guy going to tell anyone their not fit for combat! ::)

Well, at least he acknowledges his inadequacies in that regard. Besides, you don't have to be fit to look up the military's standards for physical fitness online and learn of them. By your logic, over 60% of the country is too fat or too skinny to talk about this.  ???

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 12:45:50 PM
Okay. Doesn't change the fact that he did make some good points.

so did Hitler....it does not change the fact that the man is a psychopath

Quote from: peky on February 03, 2013, 02:11:56 PM
so did Hitler....it does not change the fact that the man is a psychopath

Okay, let's not compare Beck to Hitler. That's just too much of a stretch. Besides, I never said that Beck was an overall good person, just that in this instance, he had some good points to make.

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 01:47:07 PM
Well, at least he acknowledges his inadequacies in that regard. Besides, you don't have to be fit to look up the military's standards for physical fitness online and learn of them. By your logic, over 60% of the country is too fat or too skinny to talk about this.  ???

But what does he know about what a woman is capable of? And how many wars has this guy won and the battle he had at the golden coral over the last piece of fried chicken on the buffet last night doesn't count! ;D But back to the point just because he read the RNC talking points doesn't make him an expert on women in combat. ::)

He said that the standards shouldn't be lowered for the sake of diversity for those women who can't meet the same standards. That's a gross generalization of female weakness for sure, but it's still a valid point. You don't need experience in the military to know that.

Most people already agree that standards shouldn't be lowered. There was some older girl at my school who joined the army and came back to tell us about it and the standards are ridiculous. Why the frack do women have to do less push-ups?

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 02:47:02 PM
He said that the standards shouldn't be lowered for the sake of diversity for those women who can't meet the same standards. That's a gross generalization of female weakness for sure, but it's still a valid point. You don't need experience in the military to know that.

I don't have military experience ether and I know to run my about that which I know little about. Can I get a talk show too?

Well, Heather, I agree that you can't speak of something only someone in the military would know about, such as what it's like to be in a firefight, but there are some things about the military that non-members can talk about because you don't need actual experience to know of them. Many people who aren't in the military know of the tests, that military service involves being shipped overseas, and other obvious things.

Your logic implies that anyone younger than 74 can't talk about the start of WWII since they weren't alive to see it. No one has absolute experience in the world, so to say that you need it to talk about anything means that you wouldn't be able to talk about much at all. After all, Barrack Obama is the commander in chief. He never served in the military, but now he's its leader. By your logic, he would need to be stripped of that title.

PS--> What's ironic is that Beck had something he said taken out of context. He wasn't mocking female soldiers as "Transgender breast cancer survivors." He was making an exaggerated point that regardless of how unique someone is, diversity shouldn't be a factor in military selection, even if that person is a "female, Hispanic, Eskimo... transgender breast cancer survivor." He wasn't calling all female soldiers that. He was stating that diversity doesn't make for a good military; properly trained, fit, killing machines do that.

He definitely needs to work on his deliveries, but he still makes valid points in this case, regardless of how jerky he comes across as.

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 03:07:19 PM
Well, Heather, I agree that you can't speak of something only someone in the military would know about, such as what it's like to be in a firefight, but there are some things about the military that non-members can talk about because you don't need actual experience to know of them. Many people who aren't in the military know of the tests, that military service involves being shipped overseas, and other obvious things.

Your logic implies that anyone younger than 74 can't talk about the start of WWII since they weren't alive to see it. No one has absolute experience in the world, so to say that you need it to talk about anything means that you wouldn't be able to talk about much at all. After all, Barrack Obama is the commander in chief. He never served in the military, but now he's its leader. By your logic, he would need to be stripped of that title.

Better not let the republicans hear that idea or they'll try to impeach him! But all kidding aside all this man is doing is trying stir stuff up where he can get better ratings I'm sure he could careless who's living or dying over In Afghanistan. The only war he wants to win is the rating war where he can grow his bank account.

I don't even think we need a military...

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 03:30:00 PM
Better not let the republicans hear that idea or they'll try to impeach him! But all kidding aside all this man is doing is trying stir stuff up where he can get better ratings I'm sure he could careless who's living or dying over In Afghanistan. The only war he wants to win is the rating war where he can grow his bank account.

Okay, I agree that he probably doesn't care, but he still makes some valid points. Then again, all news//talk shows want is ratings. He's definitely not unique in that regard, which is why I don't watch the news or any talk shows (except the Tyra Show, until it ended  :(). Bunch of heartless meanies.

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on February 03, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
I don't even think we need a military...

As much as I would like this to be true, people aren't ready for such a utopian world. Japan can spend at most 1% on its military since WWII by international law. The only reason no one has tried to take over and take advantage of Japan's booming economy/technology is because messing with Japan would mean messing with America, which no one wants to do.

As much as I'd hate to say it, a strong military keeps people in line, albeit out of fear.

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on February 03, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
I don't even think we need a military...

That would be nice but men like killing each other too much for us not to have one!

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 03:39:05 PM
That would be nice but men like killing each other too much for us not to have one!

Hey, don't forget about the military's women!  ;)

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 03:39:52 PM
Hey, don't forget about the military's women!  ;)

But its the men running the show!

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 03:42:12 PM
But its the men running the show!

Well, tell that to the female marine captains out there.  :P
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I never thought I'd see this, but a female captain is actually against women in the infantry. I don't like her arguments.

http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal (http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal)

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 03:35:09 PM
Okay, I agree that he probably doesn't care, but he still makes some valid points. Then again, all news//talk shows want is ratings. He's definitely not unique in that regard, which is why I don't watch the news or any talk shows (except the Tyra Show, until it ended  :(). Bunch of heartless meanies.

I don't watch much news or talk shows ether. I found they ticked me off too much. So I stopped watching and my life has been better for it. :)

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 03:48:41 PM
Well, tell that to the female marine captains out there.  :P
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I never thought I'd see this, but a female captain is actually against women in the infantry. I don't like her arguments.

http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal (http://www.mca-marines.org/gazette/article/get-over-it-we-are-not-all-created-equal)

I'm talking about the pentagon. The people who decide who we blowup!

I never liked bombings, either. So cruel.  :icon_cry2:

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 03:59:16 PM
I never liked bombings, either. So cruel.  :icon_cry2:

Yes they are. :'(

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on February 03, 2013, 03:30:24 PM
I don't even think we need a military...

Well, your thinking is wrong....the world needs our military...the current French campaign in Africa could not be sustained or executed without the USAF...

Quote from: peky on February 03, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
Well, your thinking is wrong....the world needs our military...the current French campaign in Africa could not be sustained or executed without the USAF...

Why does the world need our military? Why do we need to be helping the French in Africa? People come to America to get away from the rest of the worlds problems, why should we get involved in them?

Quote from: MaidofOrleans on February 03, 2013, 10:14:35 PM
Why does the world need our military?

Well, I don't agree that the US should get involved in everyone's business, but having a strong military does keep people in check and enables people to solve serious issues when the time arises. If it weren't for the US military, World Wars 1 and 2 may have ended a lot differently. I don't know about you, but I'd rather not be speaking German right now. Scary.  :(

Why not?  German is such a beautiful language.   Achtung! *saliva flies everywhere, kitties duck for cover*

You know what I mean.  :P

Quote from: peky on February 03, 2013, 05:51:45 PM
Well, your thinking is wrong....the world needs our military...the current French campaign in Africa could not be sustained or executed without the USAF...

Does the french even have an air force? :eusa_think:

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
Does the french even have an air force? :eusa_think:

Yes.

Quote from: DianaP on February 03, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
Yes.

Wow! learn something new everyday ;D

I feel that females who pass the basic standards now present and are fit for combat roles should be allowed to participate

This thread reminds me of this reporter...

27 Men Killed in Afghanistan - ONN Autistic Reporter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9hHDooAX4#)

Quote from: V M on February 03, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
I feel that females who pass the basic standards now present and are fit for combat roles should be allowed to participate

This thread reminds me of this reporter...

27 Men Killed in Afghanistan - ONN Autistic Reporter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9hHDooAX4#)

I think we all agree on that.

Also, that reporter is so cool!  ;D

Quote from: V M on February 03, 2013, 11:32:57 PM
I feel that females who pass the basic standards now present and are fit for combat roles should be allowed to participate

This thread reminds me of this reporter...

27 Men Killed in Afghanistan - ONN Autistic Reporter (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yi9hHDooAX4#)

Hey a video my ADD will let me watch to the end. Even though I was distracted by the Calvin Klein ad that ran before it with that hot guy in his boxers. Oh yeah were was I at? Oh yes I believe to that women who fit should be allowed in combat. :icon_dance:

Quote from: JennX on February 03, 2013, 10:35:00 AM
As former military, and as someone who has served in combat and who has taken enemy lives... Mr. Beck is full of sh!t. Period. He has no clue. And when I say taken lives, I mean face to face, upfront and personal. Not shooting targets from a chopper/plane or launching missiles off a ship to some far away target. There are several other countries that allow women in combat, Israel is one Poland, Romania, Australia, Norway, Sweden, France, and Finland are a few others.

Are all people qualified for combat duty? No. But there are many males that for many reasons (health, religion, etc.) including some guys who simply don't have the stomach for it, that pass on combat duty. They serve in other roles. I know not every woman is capable of combat duty on the front-lines, but believe me, there are some that are. I've met and have seen what they can do. Should standards be lowered? Absolutely not. But if a person can pass whatever physical training or requirements necessary for combat duty, that person (regardless of gender or sexual orientation) should be allowed to serve. Period. It's only a matter of time before transgendered people are included as well. I and a few others I know are proof of that.

Mr. Beck needs to focus on his own personal issues, before judging others. His veiled discriminatory diatribes, which he tries to conceal as his "genuine concern for this nation" are garbage. I see now why he was kicked off Fox News... he was even too nuts for them. Wow.  :rolleyes:

For the part highlighted in red, it sounds as if you are in agreement with Glenn Beck.

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
Does the french even have an air force? :eusa_think:

I so remember sitting in a restaurant in the USA just before the Iraq war - the war to destroy the WMD that the USA intelligence had discovered. The French had lead the campaign to not invade saying it would cause nothing but disaster. 

This person was reading the paper and joked. 'Ha what would the French know about Foreign policy?'

Possibly a hell of a lot more than the USA in that instance?

I think Glen Beck farts in the bath tub while trying to launch his torpedo just to disturb his rubber ducky  ::)  Rocky waters about

There are alot of men in history who had *good points* and why they had so many followers,does that make them a good person or that they are out for whats right by others? hell no.everyone has a right to their opinion and their right to live/listen/do as they see fit and to force someones views onto another is selfish in my eyes.. thats like saying *well if you wont drink coffee then you have no right in your opinion about its health risks* .....riiiight. *well if you havent smoked then you have no right in teaching your kids its wrong* fact is the man is a d*** wad and *as stated here* has no right to state his opinion on a subject he hasnt done/hasnt experienced his self.nough said

Damian, I don't understand. Are you for or against allowing people to speak about issues, despite lack of direct experience? You believe that everyone has the right to an opinion, but that he doesn't have a right to an opinion on this subject?  I'm confused.  ???

Anywho, no one's saying that Glenn Beck is a great person. He just made some good points, is all.

Quote from: Heather on February 03, 2013, 11:23:47 PM
Does the french even have an air force? :eusa_think:

Yes but like most countries they do not have the capabilites to do long range and long term air lift

Quote from: V M on February 04, 2013, 04:23:33 AM
I think Glen Beck farts in the bath tub while trying to launch his torpedo just to disturb his rubber ducky  ::)  Rocky waters about

Lol, Virginia! :D

Quote from: DianaP on February 04, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
Damian, I don't understand. Are you for or against allowing people to speak about issues, despite lack of direct experience? You believe that everyone has the right to an opinion, but that he doesn't have a right to an opinion on this subject?  I'm confused.  ???

Anywho, no one's saying that Glenn Beck is a great person. He just made some good points, is all.

Oh no,im saying if he has a right to his opinion,so does everyone else.one can not be allowed an opinion while no one else can.experience comes in many forms,not just doing it their self.living with a smoker is the same as being one.you may not have done it but you have seen its effect and so on.he has no experience with the military *he stated this his self yes?* so why should that opinion matter? allow his opinion then you will allow others is what im saying.