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Title: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 09:39:23 PM
Kia Ora,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L_cGjQSR80 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2L_cGjQSR80)

There's a lot of talk about money ie, not having enough to start transitioning etc....

So what would you do if money was no object ?

What do you desire ?

Is the love of money truly the root of all evil ?

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Brooke777 on February 05, 2013, 09:53:29 PM
If money was no object I would do all I can to help those in need. Help get those in poverty out of it. Make sure everyone has enough food, water and medicine. Make sure everyone has a roof over their head. That is what I would start with.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Quote from: Brooke777 on February 05, 2013, 09:53:29 PM
If money was no object I would do all I can to help those in need. Help get those in poverty out of it. Make sure everyone has enough food, water and medicine. Make sure everyone has a roof over their head. That is what I would start with.

Kia Ora Brooke,

The saddest thing is, money is no object when it comes to all the things you mentioned, but it would seem the love of money "greed" is...

Money...I'm alright Jack keep your hands off of my stack "Pink Floyd"..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cpbbuaIA3Ds)

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Shang on February 05, 2013, 10:02:53 PM
First I would transition as completely as I could.  Then I would go about getting my master's degree and then getting my bachelor's in Funeral Services.  These degrees would then be used to help as many people through education and also through helping them through their grief over a loved one.  I'm big on education so while Brooke777 feeds the world, I'll educate them instead.

However much I would love to live in a world where money is no object, that's not how this society works.  In this society it requires money to buy food and to have a house.  It requires money to pay the farmers for their time and effort in order to let them in turn be able to buy food.  It takes money to be able to educate someone, especially in a world where there's a growing emphasis on technology.  In this society and world, nothing is free though people would like it to be.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Brooke777 on February 05, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Quote from: Zenda on February 05, 2013, 10:00:45 PM
Kia Ora Brooke,

The saddest thing is, money is no object when it comes to all the things you mentioned, but it would seem the love of money "greed" is...

Metta Zenda :)

Honestly, I wish that were true. But, I don't have the money to do those things. If those who do have the money were not greedy, then yes money would not be an object. But, for the most part those of us that would help, can't.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Kevin Peña on February 05, 2013, 10:06:34 PM
I would pay to be able to overhaul the agricultural system to get beef off the market so that we can instead grow vegetation to feed the planet, ending one of the worst things ever: hunger. I would then pay for water filtration plants in every state/country so everyone can be motivated to drink water instead of soda.

After that, I'll have done my part, and I'll continue towards my next goal: doing whatever the heck I want! Riding a pony in the meadow, ride my bike across America or maybe even go on a world tour around every continent (I would, of course, fly over the oceans on a plane), move to Ecuador and have my own house built, and study whatever I want.  :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on February 05, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
After setting up my SRS, I would establish a transition housing for low income and homeless transpeople.  Give them a chance to gain education and employment.

Money is not the root of all evil, it is the love of money, a.k.a. greed.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 10:13:06 PM
Quote from: Aaron Gabriel on February 05, 2013, 10:02:53 PM
First I would transition as completely as I could.  Then I would go about getting my master's degree and then getting my bachelor's in Funeral Services.  These degrees would then be used to help as many people through education and also through helping them through their grief over a loved one.  I'm big on education so while Brooke777 feeds the world, I'll educate them instead.

However much I would love to live in a world where money is no object, that's not how this society works.  In this society it requires money to buy food and to have a house.  It requires money to pay the farmers for their time and effort in order to let them in turn be able to buy food.  It takes money to be able to educate someone, especially in a world where there's a growing emphasis on technology.  In this society and world, nothing is free though people would like it to be.

Kia Ora AG,

It's true, education is a way out of poverty...'Feed the brain' can help feed the body...

Metta Zenda :) 
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 10:23:13 PM
Quote from: Brooke777 on February 05, 2013, 10:03:50 PM
Honestly, I wish that were true. But, I don't have the money to do those things. If those who do have the money were not greedy, then yes money would not be an object. But, for the most part those of us that would help, can't.

Kia Ora Brooke,

What is "Money" ...a piece of plastic, an internet transaction, coins and notes...We can't eat or drink it...So in a sense "Money" is really no object...But the 'thoughts' surrounding it are...

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 10:31:13 PM
Quote from: Ms. OBrien VT on February 05, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
After setting up my SRS, I would establish a transition housing for low income and homeless transpeople.  Give them a chance to gain education and employment.

Money is not the root of all evil, it is the love of money, a.k.a. greed.

Kia Ora Ms O,

That's so true...

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 10:33:18 PM
Quote from: DianaP on February 05, 2013, 10:06:34 PM
I would pay to be able to overhaul the agricultural system to get beef off the market so that we can instead grow vegetation to feed the planet, ending one of the worst things ever: hunger. I would then pay for water filtration plants in every state/country so everyone can be motivated to drink water instead of soda.

After that, I'll have done my part, and I'll continue towards my next goal: doing whatever the heck I want! Riding a pony in the meadow, ride my bike across America or maybe even go on a world tour around every continent (I would, of course, fly over the oceans on a plane), move to Ecuador and have my own house built, and study whatever I want.  :)

Kia Ora Diana,

Where there's a 'will' there's a way...Go for it...

Metta Zenda :)

Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Emily Aster on February 05, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
Like most of the rest, I would take care of my transition needs first. Then I'd switch to a career that has actual benefit to people instead of just one that allows me to pay for the basic parts of transition.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 05, 2013, 11:25:11 PM
I'd do a crapload on transitioning, buy a private jet, take a space tour, buy ridiculously expensive clothes, set my family for life, and of course take over the world and force people to do things my way. :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 11:25:51 PM
Quote from: Emily Elizabeth on February 05, 2013, 10:54:53 PM
Like most of the rest, I would take care of my transition needs first. Then I'd switch to a career that has actual benefit to people instead of just one that allows me to pay for the basic parts of transition.

Kia Ora EE,

What's stopping you from doing the career switch before transition ?

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 11:29:26 PM
Quote from: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 05, 2013, 11:25:11 PM
I'd do a crapload on transitioning, buy a private jet, take a space tour, buy ridiculously expensive clothes, set my family for life, and of course take over the world and force people to do things my way. :)

Kia Ora Trista,

Well thank god money 'is' an object...[And when an atheist thanks 'god'- that's really saying something] ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Emily Aster on February 05, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
Quote from: Zenda on February 05, 2013, 11:25:51 PM
What's stopping you from doing the career switch before transition ?

If I stay in this job, I don't need to trade my house in for my transition :)
Title: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Keira on February 05, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
I find it interesting that no one so far has suggested helping other trans people transition (ie setting up a friendly trans institution).

I myself would set up a trans-friendly institute that helped trans people along with their transition. I would also probably fully transition within a year or two (possibly with SRS). The institute would also serve as a learning centre for LGBT people as well as a safe place for other friendly (being the key word) minorities.

I would most likely get a couple masters degrees and be a therapist in the institution just so I could keep an eye on it.

-Skye
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 11:43:46 PM
Quote from: Sky-Blue on February 05, 2013, 11:36:28 PM
I find it interesting that no one so far has suggested helping other trans people transition (ie setting up a friendly trans institution).

I myself would set up a trans-friendly institute that helped trans people along with their transition. I would also probably fully transition within a year or two (possibly with SRS). The institute would also serve as a learning centre for LGBT people as well as a safe place for other friendly (being the key word) minorities.

I would most likely get a couple masters degrees and be a therapist in the institution just so I could keep an eye on it.

-Skye
Kia Ora SB,

Great minds think alike....

Ms O did ...

Metta Zenda :)

Quote from: Ms. OBrien VT on February 05, 2013, 10:12:22 PM
After setting up my SRS, I would establish a transition housing for low income and homeless transpeople.  Give them a chance to gain education and employment.

Money is not the root of all evil, it is the love of money, a.k.a. greed.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 05, 2013, 11:47:54 PM
I find it interesting that you're only going to help trans people. :P
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 05, 2013, 11:52:42 PM
Quote from: Emily Elizabeth on February 05, 2013, 11:35:51 PM
If I stay in this job, I don't need to trade my house in for my transition :)

Kia Ora EE,

That's a good enough reason ....I wish you well...

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: MadelineB on February 06, 2013, 12:05:45 AM
I would purchase 1500 acres and assemble a team of out of work engineers, construction people, transgender youth and adults, homeless, artists, and disabled people. We would push through the zoning and permits, put in the sewage and utilities, and convert fifty five thousand surplus shipping containers into modular, portable homes that could be bolted to slabs in the new village, but could also be transported easily and reconfigured as needed using a common set of shared components. (I designed this system once). Families or people starting home businesses could combine multiple container modules, which they would gradually own through their work for the village commons or achievement of other goals. In one year we'd have permanent housing and work places for 100,000 displaced people. It would cost so little per person, once the kinks were worked out, that we could replicate it elsewhere, selling commercial units to those who could afford it to subsidize the units of those who could not, and working with government and nonprofits to get people permanently off the streets and into new communities, with treatment facilities and parks located right in the villages next to the new stores and open source teaching facilities.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: BunnyBee on February 06, 2013, 12:53:09 AM
I would become the Red Queen and I would fix everything that is wrong with everything. :icon_chick:
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: SonadoraXVX on February 06, 2013, 01:43:11 AM
Quit my job, live in the sticks, but close to a major city, stay on the downlow with my new found fortune and start a organization to help needy transgender people and fight for their legal and political rights to be respected in this country, ala Bill Gates, I would surmise :)

Lucia,
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: King Malachite on February 06, 2013, 02:59:57 AM
I would transition and hire a personal trainer/nutritionist,  and go to many anime conventions


As for charity work,  I'd start a foundation to help transgender individuals pay for their surgeries, provide binders, etc.

I would also donate to animal shelters and the humane society to help end kill-shelters

Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 06, 2013, 10:50:44 PM
Quote from: Malachite on February 06, 2013, 02:59:57 AM
I would transition and hire a personal trainer/nutritionist,  and go to many anime conventions


As for charity work,  I'd start a foundation to help transgender individuals pay for their surgeries, provide binders, etc.

I would also donate to animal shelters and the humane society to help end kill-shelters

Kia Ora M,

That's very thoughtful-I like it...

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Nero on February 06, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
I'd be selfish and use it to buy the person I want. Money's a great aphrodisiac...
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 06, 2013, 11:52:27 PM
Quote from: Fat Admin on February 06, 2013, 10:58:34 PM
I'd be selfish and use it to buy the person I want. Money's a great aphrodisiac...

Kia Ora FA,

::) The love of 'Money' is the root of all evil [and happiness] ;D

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: King Malachite on February 06, 2013, 11:53:51 PM
Quote from: Zenda on February 06, 2013, 10:50:44 PM
Kia Ora M,

That's very thoughtful-I like it...

Metta Zenda :)

Thanks :)  I have a soft spot for animals and hate to think of them being put down simply because no one wants them.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anna++ on February 07, 2013, 07:08:47 AM
First I would feel better about spending more money than I set out to on girl clothes over the last couple of weeks...

But it would also be nice to pay somebody to do the little improvements that I need / want around my home (new garage door opener, run ethernet through the walls, and so on).

Plus everything transition related... and maybe donate to medical and scientific research.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 07, 2013, 10:17:04 PM
Quote from: peky on February 07, 2013, 07:47:09 AM
Greed is good...it is a great motivator....like anything in life...in excess is not good

But no, greed and money are not the "root of all evil" there is no such a thing as the "root of all evil"...just in some childish minds

Kia Ora Peky,

::) I think you have misread the quote, it's "The 'LOVE' of money is the root of all evil !"  (1 Timothy 6:10),

The abyss of desire is difficult to fill, for love is blind, and greed insatiable.

You are more than welcome to be greedy, if that's what floats your boat !

But greed is greed.... there's no sliding scale to greed Peky, no matter how one tries to candy coat  :icon_bunch: the word...

So... "What if money was no object " What would you do Peky ?

Metta Zenda :)


Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 07, 2013, 10:23:35 PM
Quote from: Malachite on February 06, 2013, 11:53:51 PM
Thanks :)  I have a soft spot for animals and hate to think of them being put down simply because no one wants them.

Kia Ora M,

Me too...

::) I like to see lambs surrounded by green meadows-not lamb surrounded by greens on the plate  :) :D

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Jayne on February 07, 2013, 10:39:21 PM
I've thought for years that if I won the lottery i'd start a retreat for anyone under the trans umbrella but all i've won so far is about £3  ::)
On a personal level i'd transition privately, buy a house by a canal & a narrowboat, i'd also learn to play the piano, the only realistic one right now is learning to play the piano so that's my long term reward for when I quit smoking
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Huan Cao on February 16, 2013, 01:19:27 AM
If money was no object, I would buy all sorts of punk lolita clothes with all kinds of fashionable accessories while I start HRT.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 16, 2013, 08:19:31 PM
Kia Ora,

::) I feel a slightly off track moment coming on...

Have you ever thought about the amount of germs and bacteria on money ie, notes and coins [no doubt cc too]...

Whose been handling that dollar bill and where has it been ?  :icon_yikes:

Metta Zenda :)

Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Kevin Peña on February 16, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
There are germs on everything (except for sterilized surfaces).  1 in every 50 pounds you weigh is bacteria. Have fun sleeping tonight. Mwahahahaha. :P
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anatta on February 16, 2013, 08:30:02 PM
Quote from: DianaP on February 16, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
There are germs on everything (except for sterilized surfaces).  1 in every 50 pounds you weigh is bacteria. Have fun sleeping tonight. Mwahahahaha. :P

Kia Ora Diana,

Now you're really 'bugging' me... ;) ;D

Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Anna++ on February 16, 2013, 08:33:50 PM
Quote from: DianaP on February 16, 2013, 08:24:56 PM
There are germs on everything (except for sterilized surfaces).  1 in every 50 pounds you weigh is bacteria. Have fun sleeping tonight. Mwahahahaha. :P

Some of that is good bacteria that helps to break down food, though.  Yay symbiosis!
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Kevin Peña on February 16, 2013, 08:51:22 PM
Quote from: EmSchuma on February 16, 2013, 08:33:50 PM
Some of that is good bacteria that helps to break down food, though.  Yay symbiosis!

Doesn't change the fact that it's bacteria. Though E. Coli and I are cool seeing as to how my microvilli wouldn't be able to absorb broken down lactose without it.  :P

However, most bacteria are evil and try to get past my defenses, but my T-lymphocytes have something to say about that. If they ever return, my memory B-cells are always watching.  :icon_suspicious:
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Anywho, if I had unlimited money, you can add an emperor penguin exhibit to my list of things to buy. Baby emperor penguins are so cute! AHHHHH!  ;D

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Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: MadelineB on February 16, 2013, 09:24:43 PM
I just realized, that I've been living my entire life as if money was no object.
I usually haven't had that much of it, but what I've had has always gone to alleviating the suffering of those around me, which helps me because I have a ridiculously compassionate heart and not a lot of filters, so their hurts are my hurts.
What has changed the most is that I've grown up to be a little bit wiser about what actually helps and what doesn't. Encouraging dependency doesn't, I've discovered. And often when someone appears to need a financial boost, they really need something more instead.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: ~RoadToTrista~ on February 22, 2013, 07:54:59 AM
Oh I know I know, I'd have Mars terraformed, and I'd have a giant, golden face mountain that takes after me built so I can look at myself in a telescope. ^.^
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Keaira on February 22, 2013, 09:51:11 AM
I would start a company that would go on to become the greenest power company on the planet. I end world dependency on fossil fuels and bring cheap and clean energy to 3rd world nations. While my company does that, my army of lobbiests would be working on making sure trans people had rights and were seen as equal. The lobbiests being all trans people. Who would be more passionate about trans rights after all. There would be more medical help for us as I will have baught hospitals all over the world. No trans person would be turned away. And they would be treated with dignity and respect. When we end up in a divorce because we need to transition, my legal fund would be there to fight for child visitation rights or custody. Whichever is in the best interests of the children. This would be the Jannie Brod legal fund my dear Sister had always wanted to set up before she was taken from us. There would be GLBT friendly homeless and youth shelters all over the place.

As for me, I would have transitioned while all this w as going on. My family would be well taken care of and my friends would all be employed by me. My family would all be taken care of. My children would eventually grow up to continue my legacy to make the world better.
Title: Re: What if money was no object ?
Post by: Pica Pica on March 10, 2013, 01:10:30 AM
I can't conceive of money being no object, it always has and as far as I can imagine, always will. The best thing about having an infinite amount of money would be that I could live unfettered. The best thing about not having any money is that I have to think about whether I would get any real use out of the things I buy.

I don't think love of money is the root of all evil, as there is also love of power and love of fame. That said, money can often buy power and probably fame to, so money can certainly be a tool for most evils.