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Title: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 06:37:56 AM
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 06:37:56 AM
AAAAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGHHHHHHHH!
I hate this flipping ringing in my ears! Can't sleep so well, can't get a moments peace. Yeah I played my guitar but I bought new speakers to avoid aggravating my condition. Volume wasn't that loud an I didn't play that long. Yet the "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" is strong in my right ear! For two days now.
Had tinnitus for over a decade now. I just hate these times when it gets worse.
Wish me luck at work today. I'm going to need it.
I hate this flipping ringing in my ears! Can't sleep so well, can't get a moments peace. Yeah I played my guitar but I bought new speakers to avoid aggravating my condition. Volume wasn't that loud an I didn't play that long. Yet the "eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" is strong in my right ear! For two days now.
Had tinnitus for over a decade now. I just hate these times when it gets worse.
Wish me luck at work today. I'm going to need it.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Anna++ on March 11, 2013, 06:44:40 AM
Post by: Anna++ on March 11, 2013, 06:44:40 AM
Good luck Paige!
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Padma on March 11, 2013, 06:46:01 AM
Post by: Padma on March 11, 2013, 06:46:01 AM
You have my commiserations, I've had this too since a virus in the 90's. Some food makes it worse (sugar, salt, chili). I get "fax machine" warbles, and whistles. The only really useful thing the docs ever drew my attention to was that it gets louder when I pay attention to it, quieter when I don't.
By the way, I like your Notable Dates sig thing :).
By the way, I like your Notable Dates sig thing :).
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Thanks Anna.
I do hope working today will make me forget about it.
I have four medals designed so far. Once I get more and polish up the editor I want to release it for others to use. The medal design part is just a bit daunting at the moment. I'd like like 20 or so to start.
Quote from: Padma on March 11, 2013, 06:46:01 AM
You have my commiserations, I've had this too since a virus in the 90's. Some food makes it worse (sugar, salt, chili). I get "fax machine" warbles, and whistles. The only really useful thing the docs ever drew my attention to was that it gets louder when I pay attention to it, quieter when I don't.
By the way, I like your Notable Dates sig thing :).
I do hope working today will make me forget about it.
I have four medals designed so far. Once I get more and polish up the editor I want to release it for others to use. The medal design part is just a bit daunting at the moment. I'd like like 20 or so to start.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Andy on March 11, 2013, 07:13:13 AM
Post by: Andy on March 11, 2013, 07:13:13 AM
Aargh, I have it too, have had it for about 15 years after playing in bands for 25 or so years. I feel for ya! I wish I had some answers, but unfortunately I don't. Only sympathy :(
Oh, and GOOD LUCK!
Can somebody get the phone???! :D
Oh, and GOOD LUCK!
Can somebody get the phone???! :D
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Flan on March 11, 2013, 07:15:12 AM
Post by: Flan on March 11, 2013, 07:15:12 AM
Quote from: Misato33 on March 11, 2013, 06:37:56 AMGood luck at work. I hear ya (!) when it comes to tinnitus, I've had it for a good
Wish me luck at work today. I'm going to need it.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: kelly_aus on March 11, 2013, 07:50:31 AM
Post by: kelly_aus on March 11, 2013, 07:50:31 AM
I have persistent tinnitus in both ears, coupled with hearing loss.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
Post by: Misato on March 11, 2013, 06:00:05 PM
I first got it at a Roger Clyne and the Peacemakers show around 2002 or so. For all the, "If you could go back and change one thing" threads that pop-up, I think if I could go back I'd go jam earplugs in my head that night and leave my transition alone.
Thanks everyone, I made it with only having my attention called over to it a couple of times. And good luck back to all of you dealing with it too.
Thanks everyone, I made it with only having my attention called over to it a couple of times. And good luck back to all of you dealing with it too.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Joelene9 on March 13, 2013, 01:52:23 AM
Post by: Joelene9 on March 13, 2013, 01:52:23 AM
My ears started ringing in 1997 after a bout of a summer cold. My Dr. at the time thinks it started on the aircraft carrier I was on in the early 1970's. The damage in the Cochlea is realized usually 12 or more years after the damage from loud noises. This usually takes a trigger such as a virus or more repeated loud noises. I was a dumb kid that sometimes went around spooling jet engines without ear protection.
Joelene
Joelene
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Arch on March 13, 2013, 02:46:59 AM
Post by: Arch on March 13, 2013, 02:46:59 AM
I had constant tinnitus (24/7) for seven years while on Wellbutrin for my depression. When I stopped the meds, the tinnitus went away.
Mostly. I still get it in the right ear sometimes now. It gets worse when I'm short on sleep. It gets better when I clear my ears. Have you guys ever tried that?
Mostly. I still get it in the right ear sometimes now. It gets worse when I'm short on sleep. It gets better when I clear my ears. Have you guys ever tried that?
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Jennygirl on March 13, 2013, 02:59:57 AM
Post by: Jennygirl on March 13, 2013, 02:59:57 AM
'Doh. Thanks for reminding me!! Now I can hear it again lol
Arch thank you that reminds me, my doc said I need to de wax the ears.. Probably the cause of my current tinnitus.
Arch thank you that reminds me, my doc said I need to de wax the ears.. Probably the cause of my current tinnitus.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Anatta on March 13, 2013, 03:06:51 AM
Post by: Anatta on March 13, 2013, 03:06:51 AM
Kia Ora Fellow tinnitus sufferers,
I have had tinnitus in both ears for a couple of years, and over the last couple of months it's got very intense, I can hardly hear out of my right ear-just the constant riiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg...I use it as a built in meditation tool...
I've also found "White Noise" can be a good distraction... Somebody in another thread [I think it was Jill=Spacial] mentioned some device like an hearing aid that emits white noise, might be a thing to look into...
For some strange reason I don't have a problem with sleeping...
However, this link is a 10 hour white noise sound for those who are finding it hard to get to sleep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM)
Metta Zenda :)
I have had tinnitus in both ears for a couple of years, and over the last couple of months it's got very intense, I can hardly hear out of my right ear-just the constant riiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg...I use it as a built in meditation tool...
I've also found "White Noise" can be a good distraction... Somebody in another thread [I think it was Jill=Spacial] mentioned some device like an hearing aid that emits white noise, might be a thing to look into...
For some strange reason I don't have a problem with sleeping...
However, this link is a 10 hour white noise sound for those who are finding it hard to get to sleep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM)
Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 13, 2013, 06:29:03 AM
Post by: Misato on March 13, 2013, 06:29:03 AM
Cleaning them was the first thing I did to try and deal with it. Two nights ago wasn't bad then last night was rough again.
I sleep with a fan on and that helps some. I used to have a better one that made more noise, but it died.
I sleep with a fan on and that helps some. I used to have a better one that made more noise, but it died.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: V M on March 13, 2013, 07:13:51 AM
Post by: V M on March 13, 2013, 07:13:51 AM
I've had 'ringing' in my ears for several years also, most of the time it's fairly low level and tolerable (maybe I've just gotten use to it?) But other times it's insanely loud and irritating, accompanied with the screaming 'fax machine' sounds Padma mentioned :-\ I also compare it to the sound that comes with the pressure of deep water diving
It often does effect my sleep and also my ability to concentrate at times :-\ Unfortunately, I haven't really found much of anything that helps and so I just do my best to deal with it
It often does effect my sleep and also my ability to concentrate at times :-\ Unfortunately, I haven't really found much of anything that helps and so I just do my best to deal with it
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: spacial on March 14, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
Post by: spacial on March 14, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
Quote from: Kuan Yin on March 13, 2013, 03:06:51 AM
Kia Ora Fellow tinnitus sufferers,
I have had tinnitus in both ears for a couple of years, and over the last couple of months it's got very intense, I can hardly hear out of my right ear-just the constant riiiiiinnnnnnnnggggggggggggggg...I use it as a built in meditation tool...
I've also found "White Noise" can be a good distraction... Somebody in another thread [I think it was Jill=Spacial] mentioned some device like an hearing aid that emits white noise, might be a thing to look into...
For some strange reason I don't have a problem with sleeping...
However, this link is a 10 hour white noise sound for those who are finding it hard to get to sleep...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bNqERBWaJeM)
Metta Zenda :)
I've had this for a few years, since an industrial accident.
White noise is brilliant.
Recently got this http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html (http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html) It's amazing.
I wrote about it in a thread : https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html)
Mine is the MM6 DAC TRT whihc has the advantage of not interfering with my hearing. Now I wanna have it's babies!
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Anatta on March 14, 2013, 01:16:16 PM
Post by: Anatta on March 14, 2013, 01:16:16 PM
Quote from: spacial on March 14, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
I've had this for a few years, since an industrial accident.
White noise is brilliant.
Recently got this http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html (http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html) It's amazing.
I wrote about it in a thread : https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html)
Mine is the MM6 DAC TRT whihc has the advantage of not interfering with my hearing. Now I wanna have it's babies!
Kia Ora Jill,
Thanks for this info, I have an appointment with the specialist again next Thursday, I'll mention the Puretone device...
Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 14, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
Post by: Misato on March 14, 2013, 10:41:20 PM
Quote from: spacial on March 14, 2013, 11:49:34 AM
I've had this for a few years, since an industrial accident.
White noise is brilliant.
Recently got this http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html (http://www.puretone.net/pt_generic_tinnitus.html) It's amazing.
I wrote about it in a thread : https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,134010.0.html)
Mine is the MM6 DAC TRT whihc has the advantage of not interfering with my hearing. Now I wanna have it's babies!
Thanks for the tip!
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Pippa on March 15, 2013, 01:31:02 AM
Post by: Pippa on March 15, 2013, 01:31:02 AM
I remember the Who documentary The Kids are Alright. Well worth getting hold of for any aspiring musos. The is a hilarious scene where Pete Townshend goes to the ENT specialist about his tinnitus. the specialist, not knowing who Townshend was advised him to stay away from loud noises. (at the time The Who held the record as the loudest rock band)!
Seriously though, if you are a musician who suffers from tinnitus, by some noise reducing ear protectors. These are relatively cheap, you can still hear well but the damaging wavelengths are blocked.
Seriously though, if you are a musician who suffers from tinnitus, by some noise reducing ear protectors. These are relatively cheap, you can still hear well but the damaging wavelengths are blocked.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
Post by: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
Quote from: Arch on March 13, 2013, 02:46:59 AM
I had constant tinnitus (24/7) for seven years while on Wellbutrin for my depression. When I stopped the meds, the tinnitus went away.
I've been getting it for a couple of weeks now since I started anti-depressants (Sertraline) & it's doing my head in, I don't know how you've all dealt with it for years without going insane?
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Anatta on March 15, 2013, 02:27:56 AM
Post by: Anatta on March 15, 2013, 02:27:56 AM
Quote from: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
I've been getting it for a couple of weeks now since I started anti-depressants (Sertraline) & it's doing my head in, I don't know how you've all dealt with it for years without going insane?
Kia Ora Jayne,
Who said we are 'still' sane ? "Oh hold on, the phones ringing again and again and again and again will somebody please answer that bloody phone ;) ;D ;D
Metta Zenda :)
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Arch on March 15, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
Post by: Arch on March 15, 2013, 04:22:02 AM
Quote from: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 02:12:32 AM
I've been getting it for a couple of weeks now since I started anti-depressants (Sertraline) & it's doing my head in, I don't know how you've all dealt with it for years without going insane?
Honestly, the tinnitus made me seriously consider suicide those first few weeks. Kind of ironic, considering that the cause was antidepressants. One night at around three or four a.m., I found myself in the living room, blasting Beethoven through the headphones in a vain attempt to drown out the ringing. I realized that I needed music with no lulls, so I put on some Led Zeppelin. It didn't help. I thought about walking up to G**** Drive and walking out in front of a truck. At that hour, my quiet little suburb would have been completely devoid of traffic, of course.
Wellbutrin was the only antidepressant that really worked for me, so I put up with the ringing. Now I look back and wonder how I managed.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 06:53:17 AM
Post by: Jayne on March 15, 2013, 06:53:17 AM
I know what you mean about the ringing driving you crazy, I tried playing Enigma & then Mike Oldfield to silence it so I could sleep the other day but i'm also getting pounding headaches so the last thing I want is any noise.
Unlike other anti-depressants these have improved my mood really quickly, within a couple of days things didn't seem so hopeless so I suppose it's worth a list of side effects longer than my arm ::)
Unlike other anti-depressants these have improved my mood really quickly, within a couple of days things didn't seem so hopeless so I suppose it's worth a list of side effects longer than my arm ::)
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 30, 2013, 05:52:28 PM
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 30, 2013, 05:52:28 PM
Thread revival! Props to you tinnitus suffers for managing to live with such annoyingness, that really has to suck :c
Now, I'm supposedly fine with excellent hearing- but does anyone know that high-pitched noise that comes from a TV? You can hear it best when the set is muted, kind of sounds like a bus braking (or a car with bad brakes). Anyway, I get that noise a lot, usually in waves as a background sound and sometimes it comes very strongly. If I shift my jaw back it makes a similar noise that is only audible to me (it'd be worrisome if it weren't) and that helps to speed up getting rid of the sound when it's prominent. It's not really annoying, more of a curiosity. Anyone get that?
Now, I'm supposedly fine with excellent hearing- but does anyone know that high-pitched noise that comes from a TV? You can hear it best when the set is muted, kind of sounds like a bus braking (or a car with bad brakes). Anyway, I get that noise a lot, usually in waves as a background sound and sometimes it comes very strongly. If I shift my jaw back it makes a similar noise that is only audible to me (it'd be worrisome if it weren't) and that helps to speed up getting rid of the sound when it's prominent. It's not really annoying, more of a curiosity. Anyone get that?
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Anna++ on March 31, 2013, 09:17:05 AM
Post by: Anna++ on March 31, 2013, 09:17:05 AM
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 30, 2013, 05:52:28 PM
Thread revival! Props to you tinnitus suffers for managing to live with such annoyingness, that really has to suck :c
Now, I'm supposedly fine with excellent hearing- but does anyone know that high-pitched noise that comes from a TV? You can hear it best when the set is muted, kind of sounds like a bus braking (or a car with bad brakes). Anyway, I get that noise a lot, usually in waves as a background sound and sometimes it comes very strongly. If I shift my jaw back it makes a similar noise that is only audible to me (it'd be worrisome if it weren't) and that helps to speed up getting rid of the sound when it's prominent. It's not really annoying, more of a curiosity. Anyone get that?
You're young, right? What you're hearing is probably the "teen buzz" tone: http://www.noisehelp.com/ultrasonic-ringtones.html (http://www.noisehelp.com/ultrasonic-ringtones.html)
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 09:41:15 AM
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 09:41:15 AM
It sounds somewhat like that, but appears to be something intrinsic as far as I can tell, also had it as long as I can remember which places it before the mosquito ringtone fad as far as I know. That's not nearly as bad as 23 kilohertz, which is like having someone stick a hot darning needle in both your ears at the same time.
I dunno what it is, but it doesn't affect daily life so that's good.
I dunno what it is, but it doesn't affect daily life so that's good.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: spacial on March 31, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
Post by: spacial on March 31, 2013, 12:59:37 PM
There is another explanation, no less out there. But some people do find they get what seem to be unusual tones when they flex some muscles, especially on the skull. These generally are more noticable when tired and only while the muscles are actually flexed.
Another is a transient tone, quite high pitched, which seems to be mainly in one ear and tends to last only for a short period. It's a bit like when you've been in a pool and your ears are filled with water.
Both are due to some sinus congestion. But unless you have pain, it's generally best to leave it alone.
I have to say, I do like the ultrasonic idea though. The possibilities are huge.
Another is a transient tone, quite high pitched, which seems to be mainly in one ear and tends to last only for a short period. It's a bit like when you've been in a pool and your ears are filled with water.
Both are due to some sinus congestion. But unless you have pain, it's generally best to leave it alone.
I have to say, I do like the ultrasonic idea though. The possibilities are huge.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
When I was little, I always thought it was aliens :P
Sinus congestion would have worked as an explanation, but after waging war with mine, we found a nose spray that keeps all of it in check and actually got rid of the chronic inflammatory disease in there, something my ENT is still baffled by. I get an unusual tone when I flex certain muscle groups between the lower mandible and the ear, but there's the constant one and then ones that sound like it, like a TV turned on or an improperly plugged in charging device. It's kind of weird but not in a bad way.
Now if you'll excuse me, the mothership has arrived to take me home :3
Sinus congestion would have worked as an explanation, but after waging war with mine, we found a nose spray that keeps all of it in check and actually got rid of the chronic inflammatory disease in there, something my ENT is still baffled by. I get an unusual tone when I flex certain muscle groups between the lower mandible and the ear, but there's the constant one and then ones that sound like it, like a TV turned on or an improperly plugged in charging device. It's kind of weird but not in a bad way.
Now if you'll excuse me, the mothership has arrived to take me home :3
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Misato on March 31, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
Post by: Misato on March 31, 2013, 03:06:07 PM
So....
I just accepted a new position on Friday at a company that makes all kinds of hearing devices, including a device for masking Tinnitus.
Convenient eh?
I just accepted a new position on Friday at a company that makes all kinds of hearing devices, including a device for masking Tinnitus.
Convenient eh?
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: spacial on March 31, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
Post by: spacial on March 31, 2013, 06:08:04 PM
Quote from: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 01:13:52 PM
When I was little, I always thought it was aliens :P
Sinus congestion would have worked as an explanation, but after waging war with mine, we found a nose spray that keeps all of it in check and actually got rid of the chronic inflammatory disease in there, something my ENT is still baffled by. I get an unusual tone when I flex certain muscle groups between the lower mandible and the ear, but there's the constant one and then ones that sound like it, like a TV turned on or an improperly plugged in charging device. It's kind of weird but not in a bad way.
Now if you'll excuse me, the mothership has arrived to take me home :3
I thought that as well when I was very young.
I had this whole senerio worked out that I was the secret child of a race of super people on another planet and been placed with this family to teach me humility. The sounds were them getting things ready to contact me.
Ah. Child hood fantasies. Eh?
A small tip though Max, unless you have pain, may I suggest you let any congestion sort itself out. Human bodies are really quite amazing, but work best when we let them. If we give it too much help at an early stage it doesn't tend to develop the means of dealing with these problems for itself.
If it's painful of interfering with your life then do treat it though.
Title: Re: Tinnitus
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
Post by: Liminal Stranger on March 31, 2013, 07:33:50 PM
I was going through sinus issues from the age of three, which had been preceded by edema that would leave me in the hospital on a nebulizer way too often. The ENT was telling me not too long ago that if I had one more sinus infection that he'd have to do surgery, then this nose spray came out. Before it the CT scan came back with a multiple-page report describing a disaster area, and after a couple months on the spray everything except the minor structural abnormalities were gone. It was giving me plenty of pain and making me miss school because I'd wake up unable to breathe or get up because everything was blocked and my head suddenly weighed 5 million pounds.
And yeah, in my younger years I thought my job here was to help people understand how to be human, because it takes an alien to do that. Life is ironic.
I'll admit, I still entertain that childhood fantasy at times because people think I look like a Time Lord or something :P
And yeah, in my younger years I thought my job here was to help people understand how to be human, because it takes an alien to do that. Life is ironic.
I'll admit, I still entertain that childhood fantasy at times because people think I look like a Time Lord or something :P
Quote from: Misato33 on March 31, 2013, 03:06:07 PMI would certainly say so.
So....
I just accepted a new position on Friday at a company that makes all kinds of hearing devices, including a device for masking Tinnitus.
Convenient eh?