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I am just on GnrH analouges so far (think thats how you spell it) and just wondering if breast growth possible without pain? ie soreness, ichy, etc

Sorry girl...

Your going to understand why teen boys get kneed in the balls
For grabbing a young girls tits.....

No then?:L

Most assuredly no.
Don't worry - no pain, no gain. Just be careful where you put your arms.

See I always thought for there to be growth there also has to be like soreness or something and im not on e yet like I said just blockers for nearly 3 months so never really looked into it unless I did feel something accompany it :L but my BMI is 20/21 and for someone who hasn't had any great amounts of e in her life and a quite slim body to have have what it looks like moobs still going through my tank top, and even my mum agreed there now, I thought was weird :s

There will be pain, but it will be a sweet pain in knowing that the affects of HRT are beginning to take effect, this will be most noticeable after you start on E

Lol wasn't so sweet for me when I had to hold my shirt off my
Chest for a month...

And yes you can get some breast development from blockers...
Not sure how much though...

I don't really have any breast pain at all. I have been on hormones, estradiol and spiro for 9 months now. I only noticed slight pain the first like three days of hormones and whenever someone hugs me too hard or I accidently hit them. Should I be concerned that there isn't pain?

Okay ..
I take premarin alot of Spiro...and medroxyprogesterone

Maybe the medroxy is making me develop fast...
Which it hurts...so much I can't wll down stairs at the
Same pace I used...or run...lol. and showering ...carefull..
And accidentally hitting them with my arms...

Quote from: XchristineX on April 13, 2013, 07:40:44 PM
...it hurts...so much I can't walk down stairs at the Same pace I used...or run...

Yes the stairs have become the enemy. And don't forget narrow doorways: Ouch! Or a comfy sleeping position. I've never slept with a shirt on but now it is super uncomfortable to sleep topless. I got this cotton cami from Bollovo for like $8 at the consignment store so I solved that problem, Ha! I can wear it as a bra as well or if I wanted to mix houte couture with trashiness, a top.

Hahaha such sissies,  :D  been on HRT for going on 19 years and there is no pain, maybe tingling and itching. The only pain comes when one of the good ole boys bops you in the chest, or you forget that you need added clearance when closing a door.

Another added plus is you get a second place to stash money..
And other small various goodies...

Quote from: Shantel on April 13, 2013, 08:15:34 PM
Hahaha such sissies,  :D  been on HRT for going on 19 years and there is no pain, maybe tingling and itching. The only pain comes when one of the good ole boys bops you in the chest, or you forget that you need added clearance when closing a door.
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Wait....you didn't slam a door on one did you?

Quote from: ZoeM on April 13, 2013, 07:02:25 PM
Most assuredly no.
Don't worry - no pain, no gain. Just be careful where you put your arms.

And how you interact with doors.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on April 13, 2013, 08:33:26 PM
And how you interact with doors.

And shopping bags. And laundry baskets.

And you need to throw away most of your shirts...
Will feel like sand paper on your nippies

Soft soft loose fitting shirts...

Quote from: XchristineX on April 13, 2013, 08:42:34 PM
And you need to throw away most of your shirts...
Will feel like sand paper on your nippies

I've always had this issue my entire life and have to be careful with material / weave... Doesn't yet appear to be getting any worse though.

Quote from: XchristineX on April 13, 2013, 08:32:07 PM

Quote from: Shantel on April 13, 2013, 08:15:34 PM
Hahaha such sissies,  :D  been on HRT for going on 19 years and there is no pain, maybe tingling and itching. The only pain comes when one of the good ole boys bops you in the chest, or you forget that you need added clearance when closing a door.
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Wait....you didn't slam a door on one did you?

Ah - worse, had a 4 x 4 treated fence post fall out of a rack at the local lumber yard and nail me end first right on the right breast, drove me straight to my knees, I felt really hot, sweaty, and blackness came over me, but i didn't faint. Had to sit on a sling of studs and hang my head between my knees until I felt better. Other than that sort of fun stuff, there is nothing to worry about.

Lol poor alexisb....she's gonna be traumatized...listening
To us....prolly have Styrofoam padding....lol

Yea basically everything in life you interact will take some
Changing...especially boys...

OK - So, we have pain.  When does it stop??  If I'm not supported, I hurt just running up and down stairs.

Quote from: JLT1 on April 13, 2013, 09:33:32 PM
OK - So, we have pain.  When does it stop??  If I'm not supported, I hurt just running up and down stairs.

This my second time transitioning...I barely recall
The tenderness the first time....and I dont recall it being
An issue for ever....
Might be only during growth spurts...

That feeling when you forget about your boobs and trip into a corner...

Or when the cats think you're growing boobs just for them to use as pillows <.<

Hahaha nichole awesome...

Quote from: NicholeD on April 13, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
That feeling when you forget about your boobs and trip into a corner...

Or when the cats think you're growing boobs just for them to use as pillows <.<

In fairness to the cats, I hear guys are much the same way. Only not as fuzzy, and they don't purr >_>

Quote from: JLT1 on April 13, 2013, 09:33:32 PM
OK - So, we have pain.  When does it stop??  If I'm not supported, I hurt just running up and down stairs.

If the pain/itching is related to growth, I've found that it precedes a growing stage. Sometimes they hurt during the growth, but never after.

Breasts which are growing seem to go in stages...a week or two itchy/sore, then that dies out for about a week, week and a half...then there's nothing for 3 weeks...then the itching comes back.

Not all growth is visible, some is internal ductwork, glands enlarging, etc. I do give myself gentle massages and pressure, using mainly the palms of the hands or the pads of the fingers (for more precise locations).

Also, you can take a soaking bath and place warm washclothes over them to soothe the aching...

Quote from: ZoeM on April 13, 2013, 09:57:29 PM
In fairness to the cats, I hear guys are much the same way. Only not as fuzzy, and they don't purr >_>

Guys also don't have claws, nor do they "knead" the breasts pillows before laying down... :-X

Quote from: Beth Andrea on April 13, 2013, 10:09:41 PM
Guys also don't have claws, nor do they "knead" the breasts pillows before laying down... :-X

._. I try to forget about the claws. The cats generally like me and are gentle and playful, but sometimes they get pissed and I think they know I'm going through a transition because they can apply pleasure to boobs and  junk at the same time.

Then they just look at me like "Move. I dare you. Feel that? Claws. I'm not going anywhere."

LOL not that traumatized xD

Quote from: AlexisB on April 14, 2013, 08:50:04 AM
LOL not that traumatized xD

What?

XChristineX said she hoped I wasn't too traumatized Beth

  I experienced minor pain at first.  Easy how you sleep.  Keep off of the belly.  I accidently rolled on one breast once and it leaked and stained the sheet in the middle of the night. 

  Joelene

My breasts have been hurting pretty consistently these past 6 months. Been on hrt now for about a year and 1 month. I'm at a full A cup now. The pain can hurt a lot sometimes but overall its not too bad. Kind of feels like someone is pinching them lol. I'm hoping I reach a full b sometime in the next two years.

try not to worry - 6 months now, and i got breast development started after 2 weeks on 'moans. Started with a dull, heavy sort of feeling, then like something was pushing out behind the nipples, and then more a general soreness. It's not really PAIN unless someone punches you there (happened to me) and then you want to rip someone's head off......it's more a feeling of your breasts letting you know they're there :)

The pain really isn't that big a deal until I at have to lift a box against my chest AHHHHHRRRGGG!

That's what gets me - pressure against my chest. Other than that, it's actually kind of a nice feeling....like "hello girls, i know you're there" lol!! Holding anything heavy against my chest, not good at all......and I have to carry 60-80lb computer servers around :(

I definitely noticed a lot more soreness when I was doing the breast massage thing, but then I noticed I was actually flexing my biceps and triceps a lot which is why I stopped :P

Hopefully I can find someone to do it for me... I think I have someone in mind :D

I don't really mind the soreness, bras with a little bit of padding offer all the protection I could ask for- and they look great too! I probably won't ever be any more than a B cup though- so even though stairs can hurt a little on a bra-less day, it's more just an affirmation and makes me happy!

Quote from: Jennygirl on April 16, 2013, 01:10:24 AM
I definitely noticed a lot more soreness when I was doing the breast massage thing, but then I noticed I was actually flexing my biceps and triceps a lot which is why I stopped :P

Hopefully I can find someone to do it for me... I think I have someone in mind :D

I don't really mind the soreness, bras with a little bit of padding offer all the protection I could ask for- and they look great too! I probably won't ever be any more than a B cup though- so even though stairs can hurt a little on a bra-less day, it's more just an affirmation and makes me happy!

Darn it!  I was going to volunteer  :o

Quote from: Miss Manners on April 16, 2013, 01:13:05 AM
Darn it!  I was going to volunteer  :o

Spicy, just how I like it! lol

I never leave the house without my habanero hot sauce!

We southern Californians have to stick together!

Quote from: The Old Gray Mare on April 16, 2013, 01:13:05 AM
Darn it!  I was going to volunteer  :o

Hah, you beat me to it, that's my line. You're so predictable Jamie!  ;D

Finally got a bra that works with V neck T's (in my link below) I hear a lot of BS about breast size, mine are big A small B and the genetic females in my family are all super endowed, so all that stuff about genetics is moot. I have news for the girls here, the short phase for breast development for pubescent girls doesn't in any way apply to MtF transitioners as it comes in occasional spurts and continues off and on for years depending on if hormone receptors are even receptive, because sometimes they are not and are influenced by environmental considerations like soap, moisturizers, makeup etc.

QuoteI hear a lot of BS about breast size, mine are big A small B and the genetic females in my family are all super endowed, so all that stuff about genetics is moot

While that may be true in your case, to say genetics doesn't play a role is stretching it....if genetics didn't have an effect, we'd be able to find MtF's whose cis-F-relatives were small chested, while the TS had DD cups...I've never heard of that, though.

I think it would make an interesting study...ask MtF's to monitor their breast size, before during and after for say, 5 years, and reference "nearest cis-female relative's breast size"...note their age, any additional BA efforts (herbs, foods, massage, silicon, etc).

If we got perhaps 100 involved, maybe we'd have a good sample size...at least an "A" cup in terms of numers of subjects LOL...

Well, the catch is that genetics are sneaky. :) Sometimes the genes one has are not what's being expressed by one's closest female relatives - for example, my mother is a 34B (but she stays very skinny) and my sister is 36D, but I'm guessing I got my breast genes from my father's side of the family, where his sisters are all DD and up. 3 years in and I'm 38D-42DDD depending on the bra. (Yeah, I think some bra manufacturers are nuts, frankly. That's a heck of a range.)  I haven't done anything but take estrogen, and not be skinny, heh.

I also know cis women whose sisters and mothers are small, and they ended up huge, or vice versa...

A lot of the sizing does seem to depend on the bra maker  :)  I tend to be a 38C- D now but still remember being excited to fill up a 36B just a few years ago

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Quote from: V M on April 16, 2013, 05:09:35 PM
A lot of the sizing does seem to depend on the bra maker  :)  I tend to be a 38C- D now but still remember being excited to fill up a 36B just a few years ago

Nice Virginia xox, I know it's cold in Idaho right now, so don't get a chest cold and blame me for drawing you into this. Lol, Kids these days!  :icon_peace:

LOL... It is pretty cold where I'm at right now but I've got a thermal top on today  :)

another factor to consider besides genetics is nutrtition for growth and hormones in foods.

I've heard a lot about feminization and hormones in foods but if it were happening on a large scale wouldn't there be a lot more guys/men with gynecomastia? I'm not discounting it but I wonder sometimes how much effect it has on someone who is not already pre-dispositioned for breast growth. I just don't know but it does seem to be alot of evidence in it causing precocious puberty in young girls.

all you have to look at is the obesity rate in America. I won't go as far as to say the two are directly related as hard evidence is tough to pin down, but the introduction of excessive female hormones for fattening livestock should carry over fairly easily if one is tracing effects.

that and average breast size has gone up in the past century. (not the best article scientifically but relevant) http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1350919/Why-ARE-womens-breasts-getting-bigger-The-answers-disturb-.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/femail/article-1350919/Why-ARE-womens-breasts-getting-bigger-The-answers-disturb-.html)

Oh I agree that hormones in food def have some effect on people. I don't think though it has been happening long enough to say exactly what and how much and on whom, scientifically speaking that is. There's def causation. That was an interesting article. That woman was huge, an L cup!

Obesity in the US is caused primarily by two things:

Our love lust for "fast food" (high calories, heavy on the fat and sugars), and the fact that collectively we sit on our rear ends for most of the day. Television, Internet, video games, spectator sports...all these take up time, during which we are simply not moving at any speed.

If there is an effect on obesity from growth hormones, we would not see it until we reduce the "super size" American diet and get people to walk to/from work. (Nevermind the fairly large number of people who are on welfare, and who buy junk food in the stores with their food stamps... >:( )

imho

Quote from: Beth Andrea on April 16, 2013, 09:40:32 PM
Obesity in the US is caused primarily by two things:

Our love lust for "fast food" (high calories, heavy on the fat and sugars), and the fact that collectively we sit on our rear ends for most of the day. Television, Internet, video games, spectator sports...all these take up time, during which we are simply not moving at any speed.

If there is an effect on obesity from growth hormones, we would not see it until we reduce the "super size" American diet and get people to walk to/from work. (Nevermind the fairly large number of people who are on welfare, and who buy junk food in the stores with their food stamps... >:( )

imho

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I understand that there are some, possibly many that fit this description, I am not one of them and do not support or appreciate such generalizations

I don't sit on my behind all day, I don't play video games or watch much TV, nor do I frequent fast food establishments, I ride my bicycle to the grocery store and make my meals from fresh ingredients

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