Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: Ladysophia on May 09, 2013, 11:02:56 PM Return to Full Version
Title: HRT Question
Post by: Ladysophia on May 09, 2013, 11:02:56 PM
Post by: Ladysophia on May 09, 2013, 11:02:56 PM
I posted this in another section, but that this was more appropriate, sorry if youve already seen it.
From what I've read the younger you start hrt the better, which is good in my case because I'm young. I feel I had barely just started puberty when I got on anti androgens. So here is my question, will hrt affect how my shoulders grow, will it preven me from growing broad shoulders if I don't have broad shoulders yet? Also my voice was still quite high, and just beginning to crack from time to time when I started anti androgens, so will hrt help my voice become feminine as if I was going through female puberty or will I have go through voice therapy?
Thanks for any advice
Sophia
From what I've read the younger you start hrt the better, which is good in my case because I'm young. I feel I had barely just started puberty when I got on anti androgens. So here is my question, will hrt affect how my shoulders grow, will it preven me from growing broad shoulders if I don't have broad shoulders yet? Also my voice was still quite high, and just beginning to crack from time to time when I started anti androgens, so will hrt help my voice become feminine as if I was going through female puberty or will I have go through voice therapy?
Thanks for any advice
Sophia
Title: Re: HRT Question
Post by: Beth Andrea on May 09, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
Post by: Beth Andrea on May 09, 2013, 11:12:12 PM
You should be good on both points.
T increases bone size, mass, and strength. Since you got on AA before major changes, you should be good on that (and if you get on E soon, your hips will be very good)
T also affects the Adam's apple (and voice). The longer one is on T, the deeper/throatier it is (that's why young men still have a kinda high voice, compared to older men). Since you caught it *just* as it was cracking...you should be good there, too. I don't think anything helps to feminize the voice, though...women keep their voicebox as-issued, but with more volume than a child's. (So, you in essence stopped the masculinization of your voice)
Congrats, btw. Must be wonderful to do this at your age!
:)
T increases bone size, mass, and strength. Since you got on AA before major changes, you should be good on that (and if you get on E soon, your hips will be very good)
T also affects the Adam's apple (and voice). The longer one is on T, the deeper/throatier it is (that's why young men still have a kinda high voice, compared to older men). Since you caught it *just* as it was cracking...you should be good there, too. I don't think anything helps to feminize the voice, though...women keep their voicebox as-issued, but with more volume than a child's. (So, you in essence stopped the masculinization of your voice)
Congrats, btw. Must be wonderful to do this at your age!
:)
Title: Re: HRT Question
Post by: Cindy on May 10, 2013, 02:16:59 AM
Post by: Cindy on May 10, 2013, 02:16:59 AM
Hi,
Yes as Beth said you have managed to get on AA's before pubescent changes due to T then those changes will not occur, stuff that has happened will not be reversed or only a little but stuff that hasn't happened due to T will be blocked.
You are a very lucky young woman and I hope you have a marvellous life
Hugs
Cindy
Yes as Beth said you have managed to get on AA's before pubescent changes due to T then those changes will not occur, stuff that has happened will not be reversed or only a little but stuff that hasn't happened due to T will be blocked.
You are a very lucky young woman and I hope you have a marvellous life
Hugs
Cindy
Title: Re: HRT Question
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 10, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 10, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
Women actually do not usually keep the child's voice box - very few adult women are as high-pitched as young children - but the voice drops MUCH less, and the deep chest resonance never develops. So the odds are that "slightly cracking" means Sophia will not sing highest soprano, but will have a perfectly average female voice. Some adolescent girls even do notice cracking and shifting as their voice changes, which suggests that in this regard Sophia is having a typical female puberty (lucky!).
A woman who was incredibly high-pitched would stand out more than one whose voice changed normally (but did not go on to develop further into male). :)
http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html (http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html)
A woman who was incredibly high-pitched would stand out more than one whose voice changed normally (but did not go on to develop further into male). :)
http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html (http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html)
Title: Re: HRT Question
Post by: Beth Andrea on May 10, 2013, 09:11:34 AM
Post by: Beth Andrea on May 10, 2013, 09:11:34 AM
Quote from: Jenna Marie on May 10, 2013, 08:53:27 AM
Women actually do not usually keep the child's voice box - very few adult women are as high-pitched as young children - but the voice drops MUCH less, and the deep chest resonance never develops. So the odds are that "slightly cracking" means Sophia will not sing highest soprano, but will have a perfectly average female voice. Some adolescent girls even do notice cracking and shifting as their voice changes, which suggests that in this regard Sophia is having a typical female puberty (lucky!).
A woman who was incredibly high-pitched would stand out more than one whose voice changed normally (but did not go on to develop further into male). :)
http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html (http://www.ncvs.org/ncvs/tutorials/voiceprod/tutorial/changes.html)
Yeah, I was wondering about that...women don't generally have a little kids' voice, but since they don't have HUGE amounts of T, I wasn't sure how (or if) their puberty played a role. I was thinking just the overall increase in size would account for it (women are generally taller than pre-pubescent children)
Thank you. :)
Title: Re: HRT Question
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 10, 2013, 09:53:56 AM
Post by: Jenna Marie on May 10, 2013, 09:53:56 AM
Beth Andrea : Glad to help; I got curious myself a while back. :) I *think* it's that there is some testosterone increase for girls at puberty too, just not as much. (That article also says that kids can produce about the same volume with tinier lungs, which I suppose makes sense when I think of howling babies!)