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Well. I kinda want a kid with my own DNA. I'm have gf. we both want to get pregnant at the same time? If i have the kid in the hospital is there a way that i can be listed as the father instead of the mother? and can I still take T while pregnant?

I don't think it a good idea to be on T or start T if you want a kid, or you can have your eggs frozen.
Cant help about the father monther thing as i don't know much about it, hope others can help. And good luck.

Edit: i just seen your other post it seem that you have been on T three years it may not be possable for you to have kids.

I stopped T about 6 months ago for about 3 months and I got my period back fast. I think it's possible to have kids if i go off of T at least thats what the dr told me. I was wondering if I stop again, can I restart T when i'm like 3 months.

I would do the eggs frozen things but it's very expensive and I don't have that kind of money.

I'd love to be a dad, if it wasn't such a chore as an FtM. Carrying a baby would be one thing, but giving birth just... right now it scares the crap out of me!
Adopting is ofc an option, but I'd prefer a child of my own genes. Chances are I won't though... I'll just see what the future holds.

I understand that. Mine would be the whole carrying aspect. I live in an anti gay place. other one is i don't want to have my period again. i hate it and plus i'm scared i could turn out like my mom she had two hemorrhage with me and my brother. she died but they brought her back to life and plus she had to had a hysterectomy me at 33. and i'm getting close to that age. i'm 25.

I wouldn't mind adopting if it wasnt so much of a process and complicated.

Well, I already HAVE periods right now, so where I am it can only get better, lol. But I'm sure that once they are gone, I'd never want them back!
And being a guy with a showing pregnancy belly will be... more than slightly awkward...
Right now I definitely wouldn't want it, but who knows? I try to keep an open mind :)

You cannot take T while pregnant and would have to stop prior to planned pregnancy and then stay off it during pegnancy, so you could easily be talking a year or so, and that's assuming you can get pregnant straight away.   T can harm the baby. If you were to have a female child it could cause anomalies in their genitalia causing more male like traits. It may be okay if you have a boy but I think most docs would advise to not take T at all.  Also, while you may get a period that's just the prep for an egg, it doesn't mean you're definitely ovulating viable eggs. After 3 years on T, viability might be affected and you might struggle to get pregnant, or even might not be able to at all.  This is why they suggest freezing eggs.

It's definitely doable and has been done, but it's a huge commitment, it could take time to happen so planning to be pregnant at same time as your partner can't be banked on. And it can't be said how long you'd end up having to be off T.  But if this is something you want to do, then discuss your options with a doc.

 I'd have no problem getting pregnant. My eggs are in perfect shape. that's why i took a little break from T was to check somethings out since I was on T for so long plus i have a obgyn problem so i like to be seen

Do you know about how much it is to store the eggs?

I also think me taking a break was great. I am noticings more changes now then before I was on T.

I've had two kids pre-transition, although I've known I'm transsexual since long before I had my kids. I managed to get through pregnancy by seeing it as just another bodily function, rather than a 'womanly' thing. (To be perfectly honest, one of the reasons I got pregnant was to see whether it would help me to identify as a woman, but of course that didn't work). I don't regret for a second having my children and I dearly wish I could have more.

At your age, provided your eggs are viable, you should be able to try for a baby if you want. You do have to go off & stay off T for quite some time though. Thomas Beatie did just that, and he successfully delivered three children after having been on T for about 11 years.

I will tell you this, though: I recently asked my GP about the possibility of storing eggs for future use, and she's dismissed the idea because of my age (I'm in my 40s). But she said that it's incredibly expensive to remove & store eggs and the eggs will only be viable for a couple of years (I think she mentioned 4 years). You'd have much more success if you had eggs harvested and fertilised, then store the embryos for future implantation.

And as for who gets named as what on the birth certificate: Texas is very complicated (and - no offense - pretty backwards) about this kind of thing. You'd best look up the laws in your area.

I couldn't do it. I've thought about kids, and it's not an option for me, now or ever, but if it ever did, I would adopt. Pregnancy and the thought of using my body makes me ill, I dunno.

Even if your eggs are healthy and your body seems to bounce back from the effects of T quickly, it's not a guarantee that you will be able to become pregnant or maintain a pregnancy easily. Some people have done it, yeah, but I think it's more of a case by case basis. I know a guy who tried this with his husband. He stopped T after being on it for two years and they tried everything they could to get him pregnant. They even resorted to fertility treatments, which resulted in the start of a pregnancy, but it didn't work out. I believe after further analysis, he found it might not be possible due to a family history of complicated pregnancies and his own body being really confused/unbalanced after consistently taking T only to be pumped full of female hormones, etc.

His dysphoria was also the worst it had been in years, so it is something to think about as well. If you're ready and want to proceed, I'd talk to your doctor and dig around to see what your options are in terms of egg storage/fertility assistance.

Texas is NOT likely to allow you to be the father on the birth certificate, unfortunately. They don't even let people born in their state alter their own birth certificates, which is vital documentation used for marriages and other fun things. I dunno, mate. Were you born in Texas, or did you just move there? If you're originally from a state that allows you to amend your birth certificate, that might allow you to be the father on the certificate if your girlfriend did the pregnancy thing, but if you carry a baby and deliver it? Texas will probably deny you that title. :/

Why not use your gf as a surrogate?

It would be completely easier in every aspect. She could be listed as the mother and you as the father. She will be carrying your "seed" (in a sense) and you won't have to stop your transition to pump yourself with female hormones (ack).

Never, ever have I considered it. Aside from the fact I really do not like kids, the mere thought of getting pregnant is making me so dysphoric that I would kill myself if it were to happen. I would simply not be able to deal with it.

That being said, I agree with what others said before me. It will be a long, hard process and getting pregnant may be hard for you. It seems best, also for the baby, that your wife would carry it. Also, adoption might be a long and hard process, but getting pregnant yourself sounds a lot harder and risky to me.

My girlfriend and I plan to do sperm donation, as if I were any other infertile male. We are going to look for guys that are similar in build, height, hair color, eye color, personality, etc as me.. and make a choice. Sperm donation isn't incredibly expensive, and I feel that that's our best option. As much as I want a child to be biologically mine, I don't really have that option.

I couldn't do it.  End of.  If I was bothered about having a child with my own genes in then I would try and get my eggs implanted into my partner, but I wouldn't want to risk passing on any dodgy genes on to them.  Until they know for sure what causes transsexualism and depression then I won't want to take that risk.  They don't fully understand the effects of testosterone on fetuses either, so I'd be very wary of trying to carry a fetus through to term, if it's even at all possible for you to do so.  I know you say that you start menstruating quickly again, but there's no guarantee that your fertile, if it was that simple to tell then fertility tests for people with ovaries wouldn't exist.

And don't forget the impact it will have on your life, not just going off T for pretty much a year, but also being a pregnant man.  That's not something you can hide unless you're carrying one heck of a lot of extra weight, and that brings its own risks for pregnancy in its self, or if you don't pass.  Some things might happen during pregnancy with the masses of hormones that T won't bring back into a male shape either.  Also, have you thought about what it's going to be like if you and your partner get pregnant at the same time?  Things aren't easy in the latter stages of pregnancy, neither of you will be able to work, and you'll have two little terrors vomiting and crying all the time.  And as anyone who's had twins will tell you, it's not cheap either.

That's not to say I'm going to tell you what to do, or flat out that you shouldn't do it, only that it needs to be thought about a lot, and you should probably consult your doctor on this as well.

I'm wondering why you'd insist on having a bio child. Is there some kind of amazing trait passed down through your family that the world would benefit from? Is your family free from mental illness, cancer, heart issues, and thyroid problems? Can you honestly say that creating another human being would be a good thing, despite all the medical issues you might pass on? Could you live with yourself watching your child struggle with medical issues while knowing YOU are the reason he/she has them? Not to mention, what about the unknowns? Scientists are starting to consider transgender(ism) as a birth defect. You know what else is a birth defect? Autism. Cerebral Palsy. Multiple Sclerosis.

These are all the questions I asked myself when I was a pre-teen. There are plenty of kids out there already born and it's not their fault they don't share your bloodline. In my not so humble opinion they deserve the chance at a normal happy family more than your biological offspring do because they're already HERE and suffering from lack of a stable family (foster homes can be great places, but they aren't HOME).

Quote from: justwright88 on June 20, 2013, 05:48:24 AM
I'd have no problem getting pregnant. My eggs are in perfect shape. that's why i took a little break from T was to check somethings out since I was on T for so long plus i have a obgyn problem so i like to be seen

Do you know about how much it is to store the eggs?

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I could never ever do it. I would rather drive a rusty nail through my eye and into my brain than get pregnant and give birth. For me(idgaf about other pregnant people) it would be like having a parasite that feeds on my blood and makes me sick. Plus my dysphoria would destroy me. Just the thought of it makes me shiver :/

Quote from: Faun on June 20, 2013, 05:19:30 PM
Just the thought of it makes me shiver.

I'm with you. When I first read the post earlier I got nauseated. Never happened to me before but just thinking about it...phew. I'm glad my internal plumbing is probably in a lab somewhere.

I don't care what anybody else does with their bodies. I just can't comprehend how a man (especially one medically transitioning) could carry a baby for nine months, give birth, and not feel female during that time.

I know Texas wouldn't allow it. I don't plan on being here for much longer anyways i'd probably go back to Oregon and do it. seems like it's much easier there.

QuoteI don't care what anybody else does with their bodies. I just can't comprehend how a man (especially one medically transitioning) could carry a baby for nine months, give birth, and not feel female during that time.

Exactly, I have been wondering the same. I know there are many levels of dysphoria, but carrying a baby to full term is about the most womanly thing someone could do. It would kill me. Could someone who wouldn't mind getting pregnant and giving birth explain this? I am very curious how this works in someone's mind.

Quote from: Mr.X on June 21, 2013, 03:00:14 AM
Exactly, I have been wondering the same. I know there are many levels of dysphoria, but carrying a baby to full term is about the most womanly thing someone could do. It would kill me. Could someone who wouldn't mind getting pregnant and giving birth explain this? I am very curious how this works in someone's mind.

Ditto on this.  I can't personally think of anything more womanly either so the idea personally sickens me.  Would love to know how people could even want or cope with this, especially after being on T.

I wouldn't carry a baby myself, that's for sure. Like many have said, it's probably the most female thing in the world and I couldn't do it. Just... NO.
And my fiancé isn't exactly very fond of the idea of getting pregnant herself, either which is totally fine by me. The whole baby thing just isn't for us.

But IF I ever wanted to have a kid,  I would go with adoption. There are so many unwanted kids in the world who need a home and parents.
But living in Finland would probably be the biggest problem in that case.

Quote from: Simon on June 20, 2013, 07:43:34 PM
I don't care what anybody else does with their bodies. I just can't comprehend how a man (especially one medically transitioning) could carry a baby for nine months, give birth, and not feel female during that time.

Quote from: Mr.X on June 21, 2013, 03:00:14 AM
Exactly, I have been wondering the same. I know there are many levels of dysphoria, but carrying a baby to full term is about the most womanly thing someone could do. It would kill me. Could someone who wouldn't mind getting pregnant and giving birth explain this? I am very curious how this works in someone's mind.

Quote from: Jack_M on June 21, 2013, 03:08:44 AM
Ditto on this.  I can't personally think of anything more womanly either so the idea personally sickens me.  Would love to know how people could even want or cope with this, especially after being on T.

I've had a uterus since before I was born, and I've never felt female in my entire life. Why should I feel female simply because I used it to carry my children? Or because I used the breasts I despise in order to feed my kids so that I could give them the best start in life? I'm concerned at the inference that making those sacrifices should somehow negate my identity as a man. To me, that's a form of internalised transphobia, and I used to be as guilty of it as anyone else.

One of the reasons why I had my kids was because I used to believe that carrying a baby, giving birth and breastfeeding were 'womanly' things that would establish one's femininity and define one as a woman. At the time, I desperately hoped they would do this because I was still in denial about being trans, so I was hoping that motherhood would finally enable me to settle down & be happy as a woman. Imagine my surprise when I found out that it didn't work. I guess, in a way, this was similar to when our MtF sisters do hyper-masculine things such as joining the military whilst in denial, as a way to try to force themselves into masculinity. But the thing is: when I actually did those things, I found that they didn't make me feel female at all. Just like joining the military doesn't make our MtF sisters feel male.

I coped with pregnancy by disassociating myself from the function my body was undertaking. That was easy for me to do because I've spent the last 30+ years disassociating myself from any part of my body below my neck. So my pregnancies were just interesting biological phenomena that the disassociated part of my body could undertake in order for me to fulfil my wish to become a parent to my own biological children (bear in mind that I'm gay, so no chance of a girlfriend to carry a baby for me). Did it feel weird to be pregnant? Yes, undeniably. But I also felt very privileged to be one of the few men who could do something that many cismen would like to do: carry my own children. The weirdest thing, for me, was being called 'mother' or 'mum' by everyone who presumed me to want to take on that social role. That's because my social dysphoria is much stronger than my dysphoria over my internal organs.

I love my kids, and I love being a parent. Since this was the only route was open to me so that I could have children, I'm glad I took it whilst I had the chance. But it didn't in any way detract from my identity as a man. And yes, now that I'm actively medically transitioning, I have the self-assurance and fortitude to go through pregnancy again without feeling that my masculinity would be threatened by it. Because my masculinity is as real today as it was when I was 5 years old... or 25 years old and pregnant.

That having been said, I can comprehend how others might feel differently, or might feel that their masculinity could be brought into question by a pregnancy. I respect that point of view as being valid too. We must each make our choices according to what is right for our own lives.

I applaud the guys who do feel they'd be able to carry a kid. Biologically I don't even know if things work, nor am I in any way curious to find out and would rather have them removed with a rusty knife with no anesthesia than try it.

The thought has definitely crossed my mind before of whether I want them, but if I did I'd probably adopt even if there were a way for me to have a child the same as a "normal" male. In any case I'd never be the one carrying the kid, couldn't deal with that. I already feel cismale unless someone or something goes out of their way to remind me otherwise, and like most other guys the idea of it is alien and weird to me. Like being a spaceship or something.

Yeah I know I'm weird, but c'mon...babies do look like aliens.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 21, 2013, 08:35:34 AM
I've had a uterus since before I was born, and I've never felt female in my entire life. Why should I feel female simply because I used it to carry my children? Or because I used the breasts I despise in order to feed my kids so that I could give them the best start in life?

You also weren't medically transitioning to male and decide to carry a baby at that time. Granted you may have felt a certain way inside but you weren't presenting yourself as male to the world.

Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 09:48:42 AM
You also weren't medically transitioning to male and decide to carry a baby at that time. Granted you may have felt a certain way inside but you weren't presenting yourself as male to the world.

Doesn't matter. Since when is medical transition or presentation necessary to establish our masculinity? My gender identity did not only become valid once I commenced medical treatment; and I certainly don't need the world's permission to consider myself male.

But that's besides the point. As I said in my penultimate paragraph, I'm medically transitioning now, and I'd be perfectly prepared to go through another pregnancy now (if it were medically possible) because my experiences have proven to me that my masculinity was not threatened or negated by doing something that is normally associated with women.

I can fully understand why others might feel differently, but my choices were right for me, especially since adoption isn't an option for me.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 21, 2013, 10:14:32 AM
Doesn't matter. Since when is medical transition or presentation necessary to establish our masculinity? My gender identity did not only become valid once I commenced medical treatment; and I certainly don't need the world's permission to consider myself male.

Doesn't matter what you considered yourself at that time. You were not medically transitioning. You didn't walk into your prenatal appointment with a 5 o'clock shadow and appear fully male. For all intensive purposes you were female to the medical community. I'm not talking about how someone feels. I am talking about the visual reality of the situation at that time.

As others have stated, carrying a child and giving birth is the most female thing someone can do. To each their own though.

Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
Doesn't matter what you considered yourself at that time. You were not medically transitioning. You didn't walk into your prenatal appointment with a 5 o'clock shadow and appear fully male. For all intensive purposes you were female to the medical community. I'm not talking about how someone feels. I am talking about the visual reality of the situation at that time.

I don't see how the medical community enters into one's personal choices. Maybe I didn't walk into an antenatal appointment with a 5 o'clock shadow (although, as I have stated, I'm perfectly willing to do it now), but I have had to walk into a Women's Clinic since starting my medical transition, to have my breasts scanned for tumours, whilst presenting fully as male and with a legal male name, male NHS number etc. I have also had to have several cervical smears and other intimate examinations, mainly due to the damage caused by my oh-so-controversial pregnancies. So I am, for all intents and purposes, male to the medical community - both visually and legally - when I have my breasts scanned or my privates checked. But guess what? Those tests don't make me feel female either. Nor do they negate my masculinity. And if the staff or the women in the waiting room throw strange looks in my direction, well... so what? (As a matter of fact, the staff have been great).

Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 10:49:32 AM
As others have stated, carrying a child and giving birth is the most female thing someone can do. To each their own though.

Oh. Okay. I know I'm autistic, so I sometimes find it difficult to interpret other people's intent, especially over the Internet where I can't hear tone of voice or see facial expressions... but I'm really struggling to find some way to interpret this that doesn't make it seem like a '->-bleeped-<-r-than-thou' comment. Perhaps I'd better just let it sail on by...

Simon, you & I are always going to disagree on the subject of FtM pregnancy. You've made your position clear in various threads; I've made mine equally clear. Why don't we just shake hands like gentlemen and agree to disagree?

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Oh. Okay. I know I'm autistic, so I sometimes find it difficult to interpret other people's intent, especially over the Internet where I can't hear tone of voice or see facial expressions... but I'm really struggling to find some way to interpret this that doesn't make it seem like a '->-bleeped-<-r-than-thou' comment. Perhaps I'd better just let it sail on by...

I also said that, and didn't mean it like that. To me it was a biological point of view. In the animal world, only females carry their young (lets stick to mammals here, because non-mammals are a different story). So that 'ability' is a female trait. It has got nothing to do with being more or less trans if you are willing to carry or not. In fact, I have the utmost respect for transguys who don't see pregnancy as the end of the world. To me, it shows how transsexualism manifests itself in so many different ways.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 21, 2013, 11:14:09 AM
have my breasts scanned for tumours, whilst presenting fully as male and with a legal male name, male NHS number etc. I have also had to have several cervical smears and other intimate examinations, mainly due to the damage caused by my oh-so-controversial pregnancies.

I understand your position on that. I've had mammograms, pap smears, and the ultra invasive trans-vaginal ultrasounds before I had my hysto. That is different. It wasn't something I chose to put myself through. Preventative measures to keep myself healthy and alive due to necessity have absolutely nothing to do with the female act of pregnancy that is a choice.

Your "oh-so-controversial" pregnancies? How so? Where you actively medically transitioning and identifying yourself (to your husband, family, and the medical community) as a man and the father of the children you were also pregnant with? If not you were having a regular run of the mill genetically, socially, and identified as female pregnancy.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 21, 2013, 11:14:09 AM
I'm really struggling to find some way to interpret this that doesn't make it seem like a '->-bleeped-<-r-than-thou' comment. Perhaps I'd better just let it sail on by...

No, it's just a statement in reality. As Mr.X also stated, it is a biological point of view. In nature female mammals are the ones who carry and birth their young. I also don't subscribe to any "trans enough or ->-bleeped-<-r-than-thou" thinking. Yes, I identify on the internet as transgender. In real life I am just a male. If someone says they are a man then they are a man to me. If you were to get pregnant during medical transition (or social transition) I would still see you as a man. I'm not saying I would understand but I would let it be.

Quote from: FTMDiaries on June 21, 2013, 11:14:09 AM
Simon, you & I are always going to disagree on the subject of FtM pregnancy. You've made your position clear in various threads; I've made mine equally clear. Why don't we just shake hands like gentlemen and agree to disagree?

Yes, we disagree and that is why there is a discussion with opposing viewpoints. There is a problem I see a lot in the trans community. People get far too offended and take things in a personal manner. Just because I don't understand something doesn't mean I am saying it's wrong. I like to try to understand the other side's view, that's all. If you're not comfortable with the discussion then yes we have reached an impasse.

I thought about it a few years ago when I was really depressed and itching to be a father. I figured I could one night stand it then never talk to the guy again so I could have the baby and raise it knowing me as daddy. Realized quickly the whole thing made me sick to my stomach but I still have a strong urge to be a young father. I'd have knocked up a girl in hs if I was cis, I know it.

 FTMDiaries, You are so strong to be able to get pregnant, deliver, and breastfeed your children.  I could never do all that and will never ever get in a position where I could get pg.  My monthly are bad enough and hope to get rid of all those parts as soon as I can.

I could not carry a child.  Being pregnant is out of the question for me.  For me to get pregnant, that means a penis would have to come in contact with my vagina.  I want a penis in between my legs, but not in that kind of way.  First, my dysphoria would skyrocket just seeing that penis and knowing that person has a penis and I don't.  Second, getting pregnant would be another reminder of how I don't have a penis.  Third, if I had a son, my dysphoria would be crippling....having to change his diaper and see his penis....knowing he will get to grow up with the body I always wanted....no....just....no.  More power to those guys out there who want to give birth or already have, but this is not for me.

Even aside from my "lack of penis" syndrome, there are other reasons why I would not have a child, but my next main reason is because of financial purposes.  Having children isn't cheap.  I could be spending that money on something important like anime conventions or cheesecake (not saying kids aren't important in general, just saying they aren't important for me personally).

Plus, the world is overpopulated.  I'm not going to contribute to that.  Also, I am in very poor health and high blood pressure and type 2 diabetes runs in my family and I'm on the verge if getting it.  To potentially pass that down to my children would just be cruel.  If I had the option to not be born I would have gladly taken it.  To this day, I deeply hate that my father and mother created me.  I hate that I was the winning sperm.  And there is a religious reason why I choose not to bring a child into this world but I won't get into that.


In short....yeah having children is not for me.  Do I think about it?  All the time....in the sense that if I were a biological male, I would have one, but since I'm not, I won't

Quote from: Simon on June 21, 2013, 12:01:30 PM
If you're not comfortable with the discussion then yes we have reached an impasse.

If I were uncomfortable with the discussion, I would not have shared such deeply personal and intimate details of my life and the very difficult choices I have made, in an attempt to satisfy several posters' well-intentioned curiosity as to how another FtM transsexual could cope with pregnancy. In doing so, I have expressed my respect and tolerance for their differing opinions and choices. I expect the same in return and have received it from several people in this thread - thank you to everyone who reached out with kind words.

What I'm not comfortable with, however, is having my identity denigrated. After all, as you said:

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If someone says they are a man then they are a man to me.

I couldn't agree with you more. Which is why all this talk about medical transition is an unnecessary distraction. Or perhaps the culture is different where you are? In my part of the world, you can be considered fully transitioned in the eyes of the law, complete with a new birth certificate, without having undergone any medical treatment whatsoever.

For the record, I identified as a transsexual seven years before my first pregnancy. I experienced each pregnancy in the full knowledge of who I was, even if I was publically closeted so that I could have a chance of a 'normal' life. It takes a great deal of inner strength to cope with that kind of disjointedness and I had to find it from somewhere, which is why I know I could do it again post-transition, if I hadn't just learned a couple of weeks ago that I'm no longer able to do so - a fact that has caused me a great deal of pain.

So yes, it seems we have indeed reached an impasse.

Quote from: mm on June 21, 2013, 02:00:24 PM
FTMDiaries, You are so strong to be able to get pregnant, deliver, and breastfeed your children.  I could never do all that and will never ever get in a position where I could get pg.  My monthly are bad enough and hope to get rid of all those parts as soon as I can.

Thanks mm, it wasn't easy but my kids are worth every weird second of it.  ;)

Quote from: Malachite on June 21, 2013, 02:54:47 PM
In short....yeah having children is not for me.  Do I think about it?  All the time....in the sense that if I were a biological male, I would have one, but since I'm not, I won't

I hear you... I have always fantasised about fathering children and I very much regret that it isn't possible.

FTMDiaries, the difference I can see between you, and other guys, having their children before medically transitioning compared to afterwards is that you didn't take a step backwards in being able to present and pass as a male.  To go from being on T, getting all those changes, and being read as male, to then coming of T and feeling your body change back to one female in appearance, and potentially losing the ability to pass would be tough enough for most people.  And then to stick a huge lump of baby in the front... that would take a very specific type of person to have the strength to do that.  I'm not saying that person might not be you, but it's not for everyone, and the decision to attempt to do so should never be taken lightly.  Our mental health should come before anything else in my opinion.

Knowing that you are male, but having never experienced life with a more masculine physique is one thing, although it's true that being pregnant will feminise you, and make it harder/impossible to pass nonetheless.  Once someone is medically transitioned they have to go back to that estrogen system and deal with the changes there, and then add in the feminising baby bump.

I'm just gonna state my own personal opinion.  It's gonna anger some and it's going to be something others might be thinking but aren't saying:

I don't like it because men can't get pregnant.  With all the issues we have with getting gender markers changed and having to commit to a certain length of time, or even get surgery before it's possible.  And with the hoops we have to jump through to even start hormones or get surgery, especially anywhere where medical services may fund it, the reason is because of people who change their mind or jump in and out.  So for that reason, seeing as I'm in early transition and currently jumping a million hoops, I can't agree with it being a good or commendable thing.

So, in my opinion, I don't like it because men getting pregnant is not possible.  In order for a FTM to go through planned pregnancy, they have to quit HRT and become female blooded, and not just that but when pregnant, have HIGHER levels of female hormones than regular non-pregnant females.  To me this is the exact opposite of going on T.  It's like choosing to inject yourself with MORE female hormones rather than T.

I am a man, and I am in transition to male.  For me at least, and with regards to the insane hoops I have to go through, I think that should mean actually transitioning to male.  Accidents can happen with guys who're comfortable with penetrative sex, yes and maybe people aren't so willing to take a morning after pill or whatever.  But planning it, for me, that's just counter productive to the transition!

With regards to other medical procedures we go through, they're unwanted by men.  I don't care how confident others might be with it, no men want a pap smear and the idea of a mammogram makes me sick.  This is because I'm a man, and I see myself as such.  I'm okay with labels of FTM or trans/transgender/transsexual whatever, but the label I best like is simple: I am a man; and as such men shouldn't have to experience these things.  However, they are medical procedures for preventative medicine based on our anatomical build up and can't (or at least shouldn't) be avoided.

Now I'm gonna step away from this discussion because of the negative effect it has on me.  I know it could cause a back lash but I really had to get it out there because it's my opinion and my 2 cents and it's been bugging the hell out of me since I saw this post.  Now my 2 cents is given I can just step back.

The word egg makes me cringe.  I can't even be in the same conversation space as a pregnant women without being uncomfortable. Seems like no kids for me - I think I would even have to make a huge effort to deal with a partner being pregnant. Maybe I'll adopt an older one someday if anything.

thinking about pregnancy in anyway makes me want to rip out those parts as soon as possible

I've typed multiple responses at this point but struggle to post them.  That may be because I am tired.

To answer your question, yes, I have thought about having a child.  In truth, I have birthed 3.  All 3 pregnancies occurred prior to transition, for what that's worth.

Jack_M said it best for me and I'm grateful to him. I can't talk about it myself because what I'd say is offensive and that's uncalled for.

Yeah, I'm glad Jack said it first. Being born female, for me, was a mistake. To me, being impregnated, carrying the child, and essentially making use of the organs goes against everything I am working for. I should been born male sexed, and male sexed people cannot get pregnant (at this time anyway). I don't feel the need to have my own biological child that badly that I'd betray everything I know be to true about myself - which is that my brain does NOT match my female sex in any way, shape, or form.

While I like the idea of having a child that is "genetically" mine, it doesn't bother me.  I would love a child that is adopted or the product of IVF just as much as one that was biologically my own.

Ideally, what would be good is to have one child that is genetically mine (via frozen eggs) and one genetically my wife's (IVF/sperm donor). 

I would never be able to cope with carrying or giving birth to a child, though. 

If you want to do it, do it.  Just because others are freaked out at the prospect of being pregnant and giving birth doesn't mean that you can't.  Thomas Beatty did it 3x.   You with a pregnant belly will only stick out if you want it to.  Otherwise you can blame it on beer or some other medical anomaly.  I've seen people with oddly shaped guts AND oddly shaped chests and heck, oddly shaped bodies.

Bottom line it's your life, your decision.  And defer to doctors regarding T and time frames for conception, etc.

Good luck.


Jay, parent of 2 (pre-transition kids)

Quote from: Mr.X on June 21, 2013, 03:00:14 AM
Exactly, I have been wondering the same. I know there are many levels of dysphoria, but carrying a baby to full term is about the most womanly thing someone could do. It would kill me. Could someone who wouldn't mind getting pregnant and giving birth explain this? I am very curious how this works in someone's mind.

yeah even girls find it gross. i would probably ask my brothers for donations scramble them and use that. that;s the closest we would get to "our" baby.