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Title: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Natasha on June 20, 2013, 01:31:56 AM
$25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman

http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Police-offer-25000-reward-for-assault-perpetrators-212069961.html (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Police-offer-25000-reward-for-assault-perpetrators-212069961.html)
6/19/13
Christina Cocca



Police on Tuesday announced a $25,000 reward for information that will lead to the arrest of multiple people who seriously assaulted a transgender woman in Hollywood last month.

The victim, known as "Vivian," was assaulted while walking on Hollywood Boulevard about 2:15 a.m. on May 31, police said.

The Los Angeles Police Department released security camera footage that shows multiple males chasing a woman in a red dress down a dark Hollywood Boulevard. The group is seen kicking the victim on the ground before running away.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Jamie D on June 20, 2013, 01:41:22 AM
Thugs.  What is worse, no one tried to intervene.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Carolina1983 on June 21, 2013, 02:07:02 PM
Yeah it pisses me off to see that no one does anything.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: Carolina1983 on June 21, 2013, 02:07:02 PM
Yeah it pisses me off to see that no one does anything.

Concerns by most people:

"What if they have a gun?"

"What if no one helps ME?"

"I don't want to get involved."

"They might send their friends to my house or workplace."

Yes, "someone" should have gotten involved...but it seems "everyone" waits for "someone" to step in, and "nobody" actually does it. (To paraphrase a motivational safety poster I saw at work once)

I hope the courts nail them to the wall. Upside down. And knee-deep in filth.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Shantel on June 21, 2013, 02:31:04 PM
Poor woman! What creeps, hope at least one of them is caught because being a coward he will rat out his creepy friends and they'll get jail time for this hate crime! Hope we get some follow-up on this story!
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 04:14:26 PM
One arrested in Hollywood.. (http://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/Attack-Assault-Transgender-Woman-Hollywood-212497841.html).

QuoteOne of four people sought in connection with an attack on a transgender woman was arrested just two days after police announced a reward for information in the case, which is being investigated as a possible hate crime, according to the Los Angeles Police Department.

...

The suspect, identified as 21-year-old Nicol Shakhnazaryan, was arrested Thursday night in Van Nuys, according to the LAPD. Police are still seeking three others in connection with the attack, which left the victim hospitalized.

Bond was set at $1 million for Shakhnazaryan, a Los Angeles resident. He was booked on suspicion of felony battery.

Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Shantel on June 21, 2013, 05:39:05 PM
Good, the detectives will sweat him and he'll cave in and rat his sorry buddies out so they can do some time too.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Eva Marie on June 21, 2013, 08:23:31 PM
That makes me sick to see that; it could have been any one of us walking on that very famous street.

I do hope that justice is quickly and severely served to those thugs.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Jess42 on June 21, 2013, 08:29:29 PM
I just hope she'll be OK. Just another reminder to us that anything can happen anywhere and to not let our guards down.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
Quote from: Jess42 on June 21, 2013, 08:29:29 PM
I just hope she'll be OK. Just another reminder to us that anything can happen anywhere and to not let our guards down.

A couple of things, "in hindsight":

First, never go out at night (early morning especially) alone;

Second, always be aware of where you are and who is around you;

Third, have a plan if threatened (even if it's "just a hunch" at some point).



What would you--and you---and YOU (and me!), have done if you found yourself in this situation?

Something to think about.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Jess42 on June 22, 2013, 08:02:35 AM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
A couple of things, "in hindsight":

First, never go out at night (early morning especially) alone;

Second, always be aware of where you are and who is around you;

Third, have a plan if threatened (even if it's "just a hunch" at some point).



What would you--and you---and YOU (and me!), have done if you found yourself in this situation?

Something to think about.

I don't know how it is now but some places on Hollywood and Sunset were pretty rough in the Eighties when I lived there.

As for me though, I would try not to be alone in that area during those times. Carry pepper spray or taser and still 3 on one aren't good odds even with them.

Does anyone know if these were just alcohol enraged tourits or actual residents of the area?
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Shantel on June 22, 2013, 09:57:47 AM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
A couple of things, "in hindsight":

First, never go out at night (early morning especially) alone;

Second, always be aware of where you are and who is around you;

Third, have a plan if threatened (even if it's "just a hunch" at some point).

Always a smart plan!

Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 21, 2013, 09:35:39 PM
What would you--and you---and YOU (and me!), have done if you found yourself in this situation?

Something to think about.

My one handed razor sharp buck knife would have opened up the first one to strike me and I'd go after the others and they would become my victims. The surveillance camera would record a crazy, demented, lunatic bitch hurting those poor dear mamma's boys.  :icon_ballbounce:
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Joelene9 on June 23, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
  2:15 in the morning?  I don't know about Hollywood, but around here the bars close at 2:00 am.  Not a good time to be about, especially being female.  I have enough problems leaving about that time from the dark sky site on country roads with the farmers, cowboys and now oil workers coming from the honky-tonks in the opposite direction!  Once I reach the interstate, I'm fine, the opposite lane is usually a good 40 yards away.

  Joelene
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 23, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
Quote from: Joelene9 on June 23, 2013, 07:15:06 PM
  2:15 in the morning?  I don't know about Hollywood, but around here the bars close at 2:00 am.  Not a good time to be about, especially being female.  I have enough problems leaving about that time from the dark sky site on country roads with the farmers, cowboys and now oil workers coming from the honky-tonks in the opposite direction!  Once I reach the interstate, I'm fine, the opposite lane is usually a good 40 yards away.

  Joelene

Assuming the bars close at 0200, walking home at 0215 is quite possible. However, I don't accept the idea that "after 0200 the streets belong to the criminals." The bad guys were at the wrong place, at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing.

Having said that, of course there are somethings she could've done to make it safer...call a cab for one. Go home earlier, go out with friends, or some other plan. But let's not blame her for what happened.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Shantel on June 23, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 23, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
Assuming the bars close at 0200, walking home at 0215 is quite possible. However, I don't accept the idea that "after 0200 the streets belong to the criminals." The bad guys were at the wrong place, at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing.

Having said that, of course there are somethings she could've done to make it safer...call a cab for one. Go home earlier, go out with friends, or some other plan. But let's not blame her for what happened.

She may have been a sex worker looking to turn a trick.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 23, 2013, 08:12:45 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 23, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
She may have been a sex worker looking to turn a trick.

True (and pretty likely, imho). The assault is still not her fault.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: suzifrommd on June 23, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 23, 2013, 07:36:42 PM
She may have been a sex worker looking to turn a trick.

Could be. I personally couldn't say for sure what I would or wouldn't do if there were no other way to pay for HRT.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Shantel on June 23, 2013, 08:45:23 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on June 23, 2013, 08:39:44 PM
Could be. I personally couldn't say for sure what I would or wouldn't do if there were no other way to pay for HRT.

I've known a few that have gone that route, not that I'd recommend it, but people who are desperate do things they wouldn't normally do and no-one can cast any stones at them for it.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Jamie D on June 23, 2013, 09:02:32 PM
A related article:

Transgender woman brutally beaten in Hollywood refuses to let attack defeat her (http://www.gaystarnews.com/article/transgender-woman-brutally-beaten-hollywood-refuses-let-attack-defeat-her210613)

"As you can see, I'm still fabulous"

Despite suffering a broken jaw, cracked ribs and a shattered cheekbone in a brutal beating in Hollywood, Vivian Diego's spirit is not broken.

The transgender female was walking down Hollywood Boulevard on 21 May when a group of four men attacked her in what is being investigated as a hate crime....

The attack occurred near the Metro stop at Hollywood and Ivar after Diego left her job as a barista at Beso restaurant.


Video report at the link
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 23, 2013, 09:11:38 PM
I'm glad to hear she's doing ok.  :)
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Joelene9 on June 23, 2013, 11:57:02 PM
  Good news there.  As with some of the comments above, she does not deserve that kind of liquor fueled treatment from the 4 fellows whether she is a hooker or a late night worker as she is.  This is a problem everywhere, including the women who serve in our military. 

  Joelene
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Imreallyconfused on June 29, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
Quote from: Beth Andrea on June 23, 2013, 07:34:20 PM
Assuming the bars close at 0200, walking home at 0215 is quite possible. However, I don't accept the idea that "after 0200 the streets belong to the criminals." The bad guys were at the wrong place, at the wrong time, doing the wrong thing.

Having said that, of course there are somethings she could've done to make it safer...call a cab for one. Go home earlier, go out with friends, or some other plan. But let's not blame her for what happened.

Remember also if she was at a bar, bar clocks are timed different than normal to ensure the bar closes as the specified time by state law. Some bars have their clock turned ahead 15-30 minutes faster than regular clocks. Therefore the timing would be just right for leaving a bar.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Eva Marie on June 29, 2013, 09:32:19 PM
Quote from: Mellysia (Melly) on June 29, 2013, 08:11:03 PM
Remember also if she was at a bar, bar clocks are timed different than normal to ensure the bar closes as the specified time by state law. Some bars have their clock turned ahead 15-30 minutes faster than regular clocks. Therefore the timing would be just right for leaving a bar.

The link that was posted said that she was a barista at a local bar/restaurant and had just gotten off of work.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Renee Amanda on June 29, 2013, 10:18:33 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on June 20, 2013, 01:41:22 AM
Thugs.  What is worse, no one tried to intervene.

Are you REALLY surprised, though, Jamie? People seem to hate us T's. I hate to say it, but... It seems we're the new black people in society's eyes. We WON'T be accepted until we march for our rights, and get a famous celebrity who's a T. I hate to say it, but it seems it's true. We are HATED. But, listen, T-boys and T-girls, as long as we're united AGAINST such a-holes, we shall overcome all that is in our way.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Beth Andrea on June 29, 2013, 10:52:52 PM
The scary thing is, I think it's rare for anyone to intervene. People in society have been conditioned to not do anything until they get permission, and/or have the attitude, "Well, that's what cops get paid to do."

That's why we as individuals have to take measures to protect ourselves...the State and the population won't do it for us. (General advice to everyone, not just TG people)
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Jamie D on June 30, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
Quote from: Renee Amanda on June 29, 2013, 10:18:33 PM
Are you REALLY surprised, though, Jamie? People seem to hate us T's. I hate to say it, but... It seems we're the new black people in society's eyes. We WON'T be accepted until we march for our rights, and get a famous celebrity who's a T. I hate to say it, but it seems it's true. We are HATED. But, listen, T-boys and T-girls, as long as we're united AGAINST such a-holes, we shall overcome all that is in our way.

Actually I am surprised.  I have lived most of my life in southern California.  The Hollywood and West Hollywood areas are very GLBT friendly.  This lack of assistance was not a trans thing.  It was an inhumane thing.  Society is becoming increasingly coarse and uncaring.
Title: Re: $25,000 Reward Offered for Group That Attacked Transgender Woman
Post by: Imreallyconfused on June 30, 2013, 03:09:52 PM
Quote from: Jamie D on June 30, 2013, 04:40:59 AM
Actually I am surprised.  I have lived most of my life in southern California.  The Hollywood and West Hollywood areas are very GLBT friendly.  This lack of assistance was not a trans thing.  It was an inhumane thing.  Society is becoming increasingly coarse and uncaring.

Well remember California as a whole is probably the best place to be if your gay, trans, anything. Go anywhere else and it's a whole lot different. If you are honestly surprised at this, then take a look outside the comfy box of Cali and observe the rest of the 49 states. Come to CT and it's extremely unfriendly. Society has been this way for a long time. It's not just now getting coarse and uncaring. Reality as a whole isn't just getting to be this way.

Not trying to be a bit snappy, but that made my eyes get wide.