Community Conversation => Transitioning => Hormone replacement therapy => Topic started by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 04:08:18 PM Return to Full Version
Title: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 04:08:18 PM
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 04:08:18 PM
So, I just started E four days ago. I know that I won't notice any physical changes for a while, but I was wondering about mental changes. I've heard that the first month sees pretty significant emotional changes, but what time did you all see these changes?
Also, for any MtFs out there, when did you notice body hair changes? I'm not thaaat hairy, except for my legs, but I would like it to start going away haha
Also, for any MtFs out there, when did you notice body hair changes? I'm not thaaat hairy, except for my legs, but I would like it to start going away haha
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: suzifrommd on June 29, 2013, 04:27:07 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on June 29, 2013, 04:27:07 PM
Orgasms were different right away. Also noticed smells differently within a few days.
No emotional changes until I started taking spiro.
No emotional changes until I started taking spiro.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: Joanna Dark on June 29, 2013, 05:00:52 PM
Post by: Joanna Dark on June 29, 2013, 05:00:52 PM
I became more calm within the first couple weeks. Emotionally, I don't know how much I have changed but I have noticed I seem a lot more happy at times and express it alot more then I used to.
For body hair, I noticed the hair on my torso has become much thinner almost vellus at around three months. Hope this helps.
For body hair, I noticed the hair on my torso has become much thinner almost vellus at around three months. Hope this helps.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:00:18 PM
Woops. Sorry everyone for posting in the wrong section :embarrassed:
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
Post by: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on June 29, 2013, 04:27:07 PM
Orgasms were different right away. Also noticed smells differently within a few days.
No emotional changes until I started taking spiro.
Hmm. If it's not too personal (and if it's okay on the forums), in what way did your orgasms change? Just general details. Specifics not needed haha
I am also taking spiro. What kind of emotional changes did you notice?
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: suzifrommd on June 29, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on June 29, 2013, 07:06:34 PM
Quote from: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
Hmm. If it's not too personal (and if it's okay on the forums), in what way did your orgasms change? Just general details. Specifics not needed haha
* Could no longer climax with just a physical sensation. Required getting into mental state of extreme arousal.
* Orgasm was followed by a full body rush, kind of a tingly feeling all over. (Oddly, I now have the same response to eating chocolate as well).
Quote from: mrg58 on June 29, 2013, 07:02:24 PM
I am also taking spiro. What kind of emotional changes did you notice?
I'm just not quite as excitable. It's very subtle. Not something I notice on a minute to minute basis, just a general observation that's held true over time.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: JenAtLast on July 07, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
Post by: JenAtLast on July 07, 2013, 07:47:16 PM
I have yet to become highly emotional like some, but that may be due to my pre-HRT tendency to be reeeeaaaaallly in touch with my feelings anyway.
I am definitely calmer and far more relaxed. I hope to fully comment on this one day when all this is in my rear-view mirror.
Orgasims and arousal: TOTALLY different. Penile stimulation does zilch, meanwhile breast stimulation has me clinging to the ceiling. I really believe that under right circumstances, I may be able to orgasim without physically stimulating "it". I find that my neo-breasts, as early in development as they are, are FAR more satisfying to stimulate than the unwanted monster.
That is all. ;)
I am definitely calmer and far more relaxed. I hope to fully comment on this one day when all this is in my rear-view mirror.
Orgasims and arousal: TOTALLY different. Penile stimulation does zilch, meanwhile breast stimulation has me clinging to the ceiling. I really believe that under right circumstances, I may be able to orgasim without physically stimulating "it". I find that my neo-breasts, as early in development as they are, are FAR more satisfying to stimulate than the unwanted monster.
That is all. ;)
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: Misato on July 07, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Post by: Misato on July 07, 2013, 09:14:26 PM
Spiro hit me more and right away too. E needs emotional triggers to really shine. I got calmer pretty quick too.
Hair has been really recent. I had a good I beleive it's called "happy trail" from my belly button to my pubic hair before HRT and right around the five month mark that has really thinned out.
Hair has been really recent. I had a good I beleive it's called "happy trail" from my belly button to my pubic hair before HRT and right around the five month mark that has really thinned out.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: Nov413 on July 08, 2013, 12:25:40 AM
Post by: Nov413 on July 08, 2013, 12:25:40 AM
I got pretty quick mood swings and migraines in the first month, but it mellowed out afterwards.
I'm definitely more emotional now, though.
I'm definitely more emotional now, though.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: Jamie D on July 09, 2013, 02:25:20 AM
Post by: Jamie D on July 09, 2013, 02:25:20 AM
I am convinced that the hormonal effects of estrogen act on the brain immediately.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: D0LL on July 22, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
Post by: D0LL on July 22, 2013, 11:47:17 AM
I'm FtM, but before deciding to transition, I thought I had the option to be female, and tried to feminize with estrogenic herbs (I suffer from PCOS, so my hormones are more on the male side than female).
I don't remember how long everything took to happen, but within a year (that's how long I stayed on them), I noticed:
.Less patience and ability to deal with stress
.Brain fog (constant)
.Body hair grew in slower (although my hypothyroidism also kicked into full gear this past year, and I lost a lot of body hair permanently because of that, so it might not have been all hormones)
.Softer skin
.Breast growth
.Slower muscle growth at the gym
.Butt growth
.Chubbier face, also might have been from my hypo
.More susceptible to crying
These are just the side effects I experienced with my natural herbs. I'm sure it might vary slightly for those of you taking hormones from a doctor. For whatever reason, some people tend to notice an improved mental state on hormones, while others (like me) tend to go the other direction. I'm hoping since E and Progesterone made me so unstable, that T will stabilize me even more. I noticed basically roid rage the first few weeks off hormones as my natural levels adjusted again, but now I feel like my normal self again.
Since experiencing both ends of the spectrum, I understand the differences between the sexes so much better now. As a full female, I became a terrible driver because of my brain fog. I had trouble making decisions and got confused easily. As a pre-HRT FtM now, I can't even force myself to cry and feel more confident in the little decisions I make each day. I can honestly say going through this has helped me learn to tolerate other people when they're obviously having overly hormonal moments. I understand just how hard that can be to take control of now.
I don't remember how long everything took to happen, but within a year (that's how long I stayed on them), I noticed:
.Less patience and ability to deal with stress
.Brain fog (constant)
.Body hair grew in slower (although my hypothyroidism also kicked into full gear this past year, and I lost a lot of body hair permanently because of that, so it might not have been all hormones)
.Softer skin
.Breast growth
.Slower muscle growth at the gym
.Butt growth
.Chubbier face, also might have been from my hypo
.More susceptible to crying
These are just the side effects I experienced with my natural herbs. I'm sure it might vary slightly for those of you taking hormones from a doctor. For whatever reason, some people tend to notice an improved mental state on hormones, while others (like me) tend to go the other direction. I'm hoping since E and Progesterone made me so unstable, that T will stabilize me even more. I noticed basically roid rage the first few weeks off hormones as my natural levels adjusted again, but now I feel like my normal self again.
Since experiencing both ends of the spectrum, I understand the differences between the sexes so much better now. As a full female, I became a terrible driver because of my brain fog. I had trouble making decisions and got confused easily. As a pre-HRT FtM now, I can't even force myself to cry and feel more confident in the little decisions I make each day. I can honestly say going through this has helped me learn to tolerate other people when they're obviously having overly hormonal moments. I understand just how hard that can be to take control of now.
Title: Re: HRT and mental/physical changes
Post by: Northern Jane on July 22, 2013, 01:03:12 PM
Post by: Northern Jane on July 22, 2013, 01:03:12 PM
Although it was an awfully long time ago I remember some of it quite clearly.
My first exposure to E was when I was about 14 and came by some birth control pills by less than honest means. Dosages then were more than 10X what is given today and the first response to the pills was pronounced "morning sickness"! It was so bad that it made it difficult to take the pills daily so I often didn't. (I don't know why my parents didn't clue in to the fact there was something going on but they didn't, or at least they never said anything.)
At 17 I got on HRT under a doctor's supervision and the E was like a tranquilizer and made life easier to take but over time the HRT by itself just wasn't enough but SRS wasn't available then. By the time SRS became available when I was 24, there was no choice in order to survive. Estrogen has ALWAYS been a calmer and a stabilizer for me. If I forget to change my patch, within 2 or 3 days I realize I have become very 'down', very blue, and within a few hours of putting on a new patch I am back to my bubbly and energetic self!
My first exposure to E was when I was about 14 and came by some birth control pills by less than honest means. Dosages then were more than 10X what is given today and the first response to the pills was pronounced "morning sickness"! It was so bad that it made it difficult to take the pills daily so I often didn't. (I don't know why my parents didn't clue in to the fact there was something going on but they didn't, or at least they never said anything.)
At 17 I got on HRT under a doctor's supervision and the E was like a tranquilizer and made life easier to take but over time the HRT by itself just wasn't enough but SRS wasn't available then. By the time SRS became available when I was 24, there was no choice in order to survive. Estrogen has ALWAYS been a calmer and a stabilizer for me. If I forget to change my patch, within 2 or 3 days I realize I have become very 'down', very blue, and within a few hours of putting on a new patch I am back to my bubbly and energetic self!