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Not all mtf behave, act, wear make up or dress like genetic females and I am one of them. No matter how hard I try my biological female friends always tell me 'Your mannerism is not good, your make up is too much over the top like a ->-bleeped-<-, you dress like a cheap whore slapper, you walk like a ->-bleeped-<- etc...

I really wanna learn how to:

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

I have another problem with straight guys. I'm too direct and have no patience. I don't like going to date, I just want sex directly. The guys find it 'weird' for a girl want to have sex the 1st day and I really hate circumlocutions I just want all quick and they start doubt I'm a ->-bleeped-<-. On internet as soon as a handsome one I jump over directly and say 'I wanna suck your c***' and immediately they say 'You're a man'. I don't know what/how to talk properly with men.

I need a panoramic guideline about all this. Anyone knows a website?

I'm fairly passable but I ruin all with my attitudes. How do some girls behave naturally like GG girl, I don't get that, how/where do they learn that?

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Not all mtf behave, act, wear make up or dress like genetic females and I am one of them. No matter how hard I try my biological female friends always tell me 'Your mannerism is not good, your make up is too much over the top like a ->-bleeped-<-, you dress like a cheap whore slapper, you walk like a ->-bleeped-<- etc...

I really wanna learn how to:

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

I have another problem with straight guys. I'm too direct and have no patience. I don't like going to date, I just want sex directly. The guys find it 'weird' for a girl want to have sex the 1st day and I really hate circumlocutions I just want all quick and they start doubt I'm a ->-bleeped-<-. I need a panoramic guideline about all this. Anyone knows a website?

I'm fairly passable but I ruin all with my attitudes. How do some girls behave naturally like GG girl, I don't get that, how/where do they learn that?

I read a while back that Chinese women were being taught how to act like western women because apparently they were incredibly rude lol!

Besides that I'm not sure.

Question is, do you feel like you have to conform to the gender stereotype? When I transition I have no intention of wearing loads of makeup or pretty dresses. Just going to be me.

Do you want to learn the ropes because you feel you have to or because you want to? Or do you want to because you feel you have to?

I'm sure there must be something around that can help you.

Quote from: Dreams2014 on July 28, 2013, 03:34:45 PM
I read a while back that Chinese women were being taught how to act like western women because apparently they were incredibly rude lol!

Besides that I'm not sure.

Question is, do you feel like you have to conform to the gender stereotype? When I transition I have no intention of wearing loads of makeup or pretty dresses. Just going to be me.

Do you want to learn the ropes because you feel you have to or because you want to? Or do you want to because you feel you have to?

I'm sure there must be something around that can help you.

Pre-facial surgery I was not passing and I didn't care much trying hard when no matter what I'd do I wouldn't pass but now as I tend to pass more it's becoming a huge concern. I wanna go 100% stealth and be/act 100% GG now. The wearing tons of make-up is the REAL me, now I have to conform to stereotypes to blend into what they call 'normal'. Sometimes I've been called Drag Queen.

There are a few websites with pointers on behaviors and such. Can't remember offhand and I'm not in front of my computer.

As far as the part about sex. Well usually women want sometype of commitment, most but not all. I know I always have wanted to know the person and feel comfortable with them. Its an emotional attachment thing.

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:39:56 PM
The wearing tons of make-up is the REAL me, now I have to conform to stereotypes to blend into what they call 'normal'.

I think that's why they call it "acting." If you're depending on somebody to tell you how to behave the only thing that will happen is behaving how the person who wrote the "advice." It's better to just observe women your age and find your own style than typing to be wonder woman or something out of Hollywood.

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
4. Dress like them

Hate to break the fantasy but daily wear is pretty boring style wise. On the plus side Target/Wal-Monster/JCP/whatever is having sale on short sleeve tops.

Watch other women, if you like something about how they present themselves, try to incorporate it.  The word act is a problem.  Don't act, don't put on airs, just try to find yourself and be that.  You shouldn't even think about how you walk, imo, just walk.  And yes, style and behavior is about subtlety too, and I mean for both genders.

I would love it if the term "GG" would just die, btw.

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Not all mtf behave, act, wear make up or dress like genetic females and I am one of them. No matter how hard I try my biological female friends always tell me 'Your mannerism is not good, your make up is too much over the top like a ->-bleeped-<-, you dress like a cheap whore slapper, you walk like a ->-bleeped-<- etc...

I really wanna learn how to:

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

I have another problem with straight guys. I'm too direct and have no patience. I don't like going to date, I just want sex directly. The guys find it 'weird' for a girl want to have sex the 1st day and I really hate circumlocutions I just want all quick and they start doubt I'm a ->-bleeped-<-. On internet as soon as a handsome one I jump over directly and say 'I wanna suck your c***' and immediately they say 'You're a man'. I don't know what/how to talk properly with men.

I need a panoramic guideline about all this. Anyone knows a website?

I'm fairly passable but I ruin all with my attitudes. How do some girls behave naturally like GG girl, I don't get that, how/where do they learn that?

1) I always use the term cis gender never GG that is old school just for info, part of the walk is to let your hips relax and swivel, also makes sure you are not just pounding the pavement. Womyn do not just walk with a "full purpose" all the time. most of the time they are a lot more careful about their surroundings, remember every womon is a hunted animal, scared of her surroundings and paying attention to what is gong on. also wiht each step you need to step lightly not just wham wham wham.

B) behavior is learned be around as many as possible and pick up habits - this just takes time - this is what RLE is

iii) makeup is personal everyone is different - also regional can't help her - plus I never wear any

4) Dress -pick recent fashion and use it magazines help

E) just don't be QUITE that forward I think - coming on might be OK - propositioning   is fine but tone it down

My boyfriend is straight and all the guys I have ever dated have been

If you put masculine engery in to a dating situation your not going to get that straight Guy.
it about being coy and slightly hard to get. Once the dude feels like he has caught his prey .
Then you can become more aggressive.
And dress and makeup dress for the occasion. Slutty is ok AT the club
Not at the park
Xo Rachel

Quote from: xxRachelxx on July 28, 2013, 05:25:13 PM
If you put masculine engery in to a dating situation your not going to get that straight Guy.
it about being coy and slightly hard to get. Once the dude feels like he has caught his prey .
Then you can become more aggressive.

Pretty much this!! Also it explains pretty well why guys always think that its them who are the hunters and it is ultimately their choice ;). There is a moment, thin line, after crossing which the predator becomes the hunted and if everything is done subtly then he will never become aware of that :).

Quote from: -Emily- on July 29, 2013, 03:54:33 AM
Pretty much this!! Also it explains pretty well why guys always think that its them who are the hunters and it is ultimately their choice ;). There is a moment, thin line, after crossing which the predator becomes the hunted and if everything is done subtly then he will never become aware of that :).

Lols.  >:-)
Oh I needed that this morning. It's true though.

The best advice has been from some of the other posters here. Watch what the other girls do, practice it and if it works keep it otherwise look for something that fits you. You can only work with what you've got after all.

So I'd start with gathering some patience. For many of us it's a situation of trying to fast forward 15+ years of behavioral development that cis girls get naturally. Patience can help speed things up if you are getting frustrated.

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
I really wanna learn how to:

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

1) That just comes naturally to me.. Something I've noticed that men tend to lock their hips - relax them and see what happens..

2) Observe, observe, observe.. And a touch of relaxing and letting it just come from within..

3) Look around at what other women your age are doing with their makeup..

4) Again, look around at what other women your age are wearing.

5) I'm a lesbian, so my advice here will be so-so.. But I'm led to believe that most men don't like women to be openly sexually aggressive.. As others have said, coy and subtle works..

Watch and listen but be yourself. It will all come naturally after a while.

Caroline

Quote from: Evolving Beauty on July 28, 2013, 03:29:51 PM
Not all mtf behave, act, wear make up or dress like genetic females and I am one of them. No matter how hard I try my biological female friends always tell me 'Your mannerism is not good, your make up is too much over the top like a ->-bleeped-<-, you dress like a cheap whore slapper, you walk like a ->-bleeped-<- etc...

I really wanna learn how to:

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

I have another problem with straight guys. I'm too direct and have no patience. I don't like going to date, I just want sex directly. The guys find it 'weird' for a girl want to have sex the 1st day and I really hate circumlocutions I just want all quick and they start doubt I'm a ->-bleeped-<-. On internet as soon as a handsome one I jump over directly and say 'I wanna suck your c***' and immediately they say 'You're a man'. I don't know what/how to talk properly with men.

I need a panoramic guideline about all this. Anyone knows a website?

I'm fairly passable but I ruin all with my attitudes. How do some girls behave naturally like GG girl, I don't get that, how/where do they learn that?

Are you post SRS?

1. Walk like a genetic female
2. Behave and act like a cis
3. Wear make up like them
4. Dress like them
5. Behave with guys like a GG

I watch a lot of people and I think you are wasting time on the walk. Aside from the way they scoot across a street. Good luck perfecting that.

Act like a cis? hmm well it is something you will likely take years to unlearn and relearn eh. Behaviour is a lot more than we often realize.

Wear make up like them eh, newsflash, that likely means almost none most of the time then. Unless you are going to a party or special event, and even then it might mean nothing more than the right lipstick. Most cis women can be boring.

Dress like them. Truth is, women often have their own form of dreadful. Guys are doing the sagging pants underwear visible thing, girls are doing the torn holes all over the jeans multi layer tops thing around here at least. And girls often don't seem to mind that there are some tight clothes that look poor on overweight girls just as boys seem unable to realize that jeans look better clean. Girls seem to not mind you can see their bra straps.

And of course, if you want to seem like a girl, well it does end up with you needing to look like you want the boy eh.
Are you ok with that?

As for sex, well, I have met a LOT of girls that are plenty happy to 'get it on' on the first date. Horny is not a male only condition.
But what gets a girl going, will not be the same is all. You need to learn what a girl actually wants I suppose.
But here is the funny thing, if you ARE a girl and merely are in a male form, then technically what you want, is already correct eh.
Some girls ARE sluts hos and tramps.
And some boys are not into sluts hos and tramps.

I am fairly sure if I had lived my teens as a female. I'd have been damned lucky to escape my teens without a VERY bad reputation.
Then again, I was a virgin till my wedding night when I was 25.

As I've gone about my own transition so far, I have had to do a LOT of thinking / soul searching, and asking myself some hard questions. I can see and hear the nervousness in your original post. Until maybe June or so, there was a girl named Jesslyn Jensen on Youtube. Jesslyn unfortunately shut down her Youtube channel and did away with the videos there.

One of her videos talked about how she got someone sending her e-mails or something telling her HOW to be a girl. She went on to talk about how transitioning does not make you someone else, you are still you, just in a different presentation that fits how you see yourself. That said, don't worry about having to conform to how the world THINKS YOU should act, don't worry about what the world thinks you should like.

YOU just be YOU! Wanna know a secret? Genetic girls are NOT all the same. A genetic girl does not have one certain walk, one certain mentality, one certain set of likes and dislikes. Genetic girls think, act, talk, walk, and generally present in all manner of different ways. The best thing you can do is start figuring out who you are, and what your personal style is when it comes to living, when it comes to your clothes, when it comes to who and what you are as a person. All of this takes time, and let me tell you that I am still not sure about some things. I still have nervousness about some things, especially about making sure I don't look stupid / ridiculous.

If ever you need a friend, or just someone to talk to, feel free to message me.

Quote from: Kelly the Trans-Rebel on July 29, 2013, 08:43:55 AM
1) That just comes naturally to me.. Something I've noticed that men tend to lock their hips - relax them and see what happens..

2) Observe, observe, observe.. And a touch of relaxing and letting it just come from within..

3) Look around at what other women your age are doing with their makeup..

4) Again, look around at what other women your age are wearing.

5) I'm a lesbian, so my advice here will be so-so.. But I'm led to believe that most men don't like women to be openly sexually aggressive.. As others have said, coy and subtle works..

Kelly has spoken very well about what to do age wise and more. Makeup takes practice, and the more you do it the better you get at it. There are many, many youtube videos showing how to achieve one look or another. I was wearing more earlier in my transition, probably because I thought I needed it. I love makeup, but there's definitely a point where a cis woman or trans woman will look like someone on "RuPaul's Drag Race", (which I absolutely loathe) i.e. a drag queen. The longer you're on HRT, the more female you'll look and feel and most likely many of the things you want will come naturally. As I said, I love makeup, but I wear less now than ever and I feel prettier than ever and I've been living full time for nearly 23 months, not only the best 23, but possibly the only ones I've ever been happy as an adult. Clothes are definitely a personal choice, and I wear dresses nearly every day because I was forced to wear pants living as a male impersonator, which is all I ever was. Early on I found that going to a mall and watching women walk, talk, and even the things they do with their hands are different from men. I didn't copy anyone, but in the beginning I noticed things I both liked and disliked in women, sometimes in the same one and didn't copy them in the mirror or anything, but I've found I think as a woman, and it's been much more so since HRT. On the sexual part of it, I also love men, but I have a BF I'm in love with and am a one man woman. Having acted as a man and been with quite a few women, I always felt like a lesbian, and trying to be a male I decided I didn't like overly aggressive women and I don't think many guys do, not really. Men want to be the hunter, not the hunted, and I'd like to know if you're on estrogen and anti-androgens yet. I have a feeling your sexual desires will quiet down a bit when you do. Flirting is fun, and to be flirted with, which happened to me today, is really sweet, even though I'd never let it go anywhere. I also have several girl friends and have gotten advice and watched them out in public. Just don't be overly aggressive or wear lots of makeup, unless you want guys who want to have sex with a ->-bleeped-<-, she-male, or porn queen if you don't quite pass yet. By the way, those are repulsive names, but if you want to be treated like one, I guarantee there are plenty of guys out there ready to use you like a piece of meat. Don't cheapen yourself for something so empty. Also, beware of men who don't respect women, because they'll definitely disrespect you, possibly, often to the point of violence. You're on a slippery slope here, girl, so be careful and most of all, respect yourself. You're definitely worth it. Hugs, Mira

Some things are easy and some not.

I can NOT sit like a lady. It seriously hurts my hips and makes my legs totally uncomfortable.

But women simply do not sit legs open as if there is no problem. And even if you are wearing pants it is wrong.

But I can't really think of many women that make much of an ideal 1950 era housewife (like my mom). Most of the women I know are slobs untidy, lousy in the kitchen both making food, and just being useless at cliche domestic chores.

On the other hand, I know some guys that are great in the kitchen.

I know of plenty of moments when I have watched women, and reflect, if not for your obvious breasts, you'd be absolutely no challenge for me to compete with. But, women generally have noticeable breasts before their first cycle. It is not easy to compete with that.

There's of course a lot of crap guys simply won't think about, that a FTM might have trouble noticing. Because so much of it is so utterly minor, but, still it's when it is missing that it screams out at an observer.

When to laugh and what specifically to laugh at. Men are also dominated by visual, whereas females are predominantly not.
And it is not easy to alter a lot of conditioning you will have been subjected to.

I like women regardless. So when I see a woman, I am checking her out the same way a man would but with a lesbian slant. Hey we're both looking at your breasts :) But in a male form, I will be regarded as a male pig, not a lesbian. The thing is, sometimes I am looking at you and thinking, that outfit simply doesn't look good on her.

I have a strong need to create. It therefore has not been a problem that I like to make models of military subjects.
But I have found that the more I accept my feminine side, the less I seem to have any edge in competitive games.
I still understand wargame design, I just don't have much drive to play them for entertainment now.

I have also really decided to fully run with my role gaming being about gaming he role and to heck with the usual male manner of role gaming ie kill everything in sight, you don't talk to walking experience points.

Your activities will be watched.
Girls like sports, but girls do their own thing when it comes to indulging them.
Girls like movies, but we like them for different reasons.
I think of all the anime I have watched I find it the funniest that girls like boy on boy anime, as it is so intensely relationshippy.
I often thought boy on boy anime would mainly interest the gay community, but it seems most of the fans of it are female.