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Title: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MikeO999 on July 28, 2013, 04:59:49 PM
Hi, I'm currently a pre-everything atm trying to get my gp to send me somewhere that will actually help me.

One thing i've not been sure about is is it better to try to loose weight before or after transitioning?

I have an extra few pounds I wanna get rid of and will continue to do so, but wondered, is it better to wait until after transitioning as I know that hormones for a MTF do affect fat positioning in the waist/hips area.

also any tips on how I can get my dad on board and supporting me as I really could do with his support. I've told him briefly though its been a kind of taboo subject and I just want to say ok, I hope you accept this, can you help. My main problem is that I feel that when I originally mentioned it he was in that kind of mood where he could be loosing an only son so I don't want to mess this up, if you get me.

any help and advice is appreciated :)

Mike
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Night Haven on August 14, 2013, 08:40:00 PM
Disclaimer: This is only based on a few sources I've read online. A person who's actually experienced MtF hormone replacement therapy will be much more qualified to answer your question.

From what I've read, it looks like any weight gain you experience while on HRT will go to where-ever it should be for a woman (talking MtF) or a man (FtM), but most of the fat you have already will stay where it is.
Granted, your body's going to be changing a lot with this, and maybe my sources are a little off or downright incorrect.

With that information, though, I'd try to lose weight now, especially if you want to slim down to a more androgynous or feminine figure, so if you start gaining weight after starting HRT it'll be in the right places.

*Shrugs* My take on it; you could always ask Google and see what you get from there.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: JLT1 on August 14, 2013, 09:23:43 PM
If you loose weight now, you will loose it in the male pattern.  If you later gain weight while on E, you will gain some of it in the female pattern and some of it in the male pattern as there are still fat cells there. 

However, if you loose weight while on E, you will loose it from mostly male areas but you will loose some from all over as that's what happens when a woman looses weight. 

It is harder to loose weight as a woman....

There are some old threads about this.  My post was that you should loose weight when ever but once at the desired weight and on E, "bounce" your weight – gain 10, loose 10, loose 10, gain 10 ect.  This will redistribute your weight in a more typical female pattern. 
Title: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MikeO999 on August 17, 2013, 03:06:00 AM
Thanks,

It's not that I want to get to a specific weight, it's just that my waist line is quite erm large, I'm not fussed about my weight, more my figure...

But thanks for your advice anyway :)
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Cindy on August 17, 2013, 04:07:56 AM
It is far easier to lose weight prior to HRT. You may also find that if you are a lot overweight the endocrinologist will be reluctant to prescribe as it is a major risk factor for DVT etc.

The 'fat' (sorry) you are carrying now will not redistribute it will remain and once your muscle mass decreases due to lack of T, then it will be more difficult to lose.

Without meaning anything, when I went on HRT and transitioned I wanted the new me to be lean and gorgeous, I finally had a body I was proud of and I enjoy guys looking at me :laugh:

Your Dad may want to visit the SO section or post on here and members can talk to him, if he wishes to understand what we go through and why.

Hugs

Cindy
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 04:39:33 AM
Yes, losing weight after transition is much much harder, but not impossible. I've lost 53lbs over the past 16 months, but it took me years of trying before I succeeded.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Cindy on August 17, 2013, 04:51:11 AM
Quote from: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 04:39:33 AM
Yes, losing weight after transition is much much harder, but not impossible. I've lost 53lbs over the past 16 months, but it took me years of trying before I succeeded.

Good girl!!!!! That is fantastic! Well done!

Hugs

Cindy
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 06:49:43 AM
Quote from: Cindy on August 17, 2013, 04:51:11 AM
Good girl!!!!! That is fantastic! Well done!

Hugs

Cindy
Hell's yes! :)

I'm very pleased with the results. I was 205 and am now 152, so that's a 25% decrease in weight. I feel absolutely fantastic now and I have so much more energy and I feel incredible limber. Now it's just a matter of not losing any more weight. I was actually aiming for 165 but it just kept dropping. Now it seems about as difficult to put some back on as it was to take it off in the first place.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Cindy on August 17, 2013, 06:59:21 AM
I'm 125 lbs and 5' 9" and have been fortunate to stay around that range for all my life. I can totally tell when I put a kilo on, it really affects me and I feel unhealthy and sluggish. Just a personal thing from what I'm used to in my body.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Here I am in the same outfit before and after. In the first picture I am 190lbs, the second 165.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1324.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu619%2FMariaMx2%2F2_zps0b6cf18e.jpg&hash=f99779af23320066282d0aea99a1956fa32c517d)

Fuffin' top all gone :)
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Cindy on August 17, 2013, 07:05:21 AM
lookin' hot!!
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: JLT1 on August 17, 2013, 09:07:59 AM
Quote from: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Here I am in the same outfit before and after. In the first picture I am 190lbs, the second 165.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1324.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu619%2FMariaMx2%2F2_zps0b6cf18e.jpg&hash=f99779af23320066282d0aea99a1956fa32c517d)

Fuffin' top all gone :)

NICE!  Looking REALLY good.  That encourages me.  We all need that sometime.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 09:37:19 AM
Quote from: JLT1 on August 17, 2013, 09:07:59 AM
NICE!  Looking REALLY good.  That encourages me.  We all need that sometime.
Good :)

It wasn't as hard I I thought actually. The trick is to cut out junk food, soda, candy, reduce the carb intake, eat slightly smaller portion and not stress about it. Over time it will disappear :)
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: MikeO999 on August 27, 2013, 04:09:58 PM
Thanks for the advice :)

Cindy, I've spoken to my dad and he's a) on board with me so to speak, but b) he's also surprisingly well informed about TG, but thanks for the suggestion.

Looks like i'm heading for the gym when collage resumes :P
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Cindy on August 27, 2013, 06:04:55 PM
Quote from: Glitterfly on August 27, 2013, 04:41:28 PM
A quick question... for someone who's not super muscular and a total couch potato but still finds it pretty much effortless to lose weight pre-hrt... do you think it will really change that much with hrt? i mean even if it got harder... it would probably be 'average' difficulty rather than 'super hard' for me if pre-hrt it was effortless...? (to clarify I've always lost weight from normal weight to a lower weight, never overweight but still find it effortless)

Well I have to admit this is not something I know about. But the theory is that when you kill T your metabolism slows and your muscle mass decreases, both of these make it more difficult to lose weight. That is compounded by the effect of E tending to allow/enable the body to store fat to a greater degree than people not on E.

But I haven't personally been in that situation.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Formentera on October 08, 2016, 07:06:12 PM
Quote from: MariaMx on August 17, 2013, 07:00:07 AM
Here I am in the same outfit before and after. In the first picture I am 190lbs, the second 165.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1324.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu619%2FMariaMx2%2F2_zps0b6cf18e.jpg&hash=f99779af23320066282d0aea99a1956fa32c517d)

Fuffin' top all gone :)

Is it reasonable to expect breasts like these through mtf hrt?
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Deborah on October 08, 2016, 07:33:50 PM
Quote from: Formentera on October 08, 2016, 07:06:12 PM
Is it reasonable to expect breasts like these through mtf hrt?
Probably not if you keep your body weight low.


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Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Mariah on October 08, 2016, 09:23:47 PM
Not generally as it differs from person to person Formentetra. Hugs
Mariah
Quote from: Formentera on October 08, 2016, 07:06:12 PM
Is it reasonable to expect breasts like these through mtf hrt?
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Jacqueline on October 10, 2016, 12:22:08 PM
Quote from: Formentera on October 08, 2016, 07:06:12 PM
Is it reasonable to expect breasts like these through mtf hrt?

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Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: kanad3 on October 10, 2016, 02:35:33 PM
I think it doesn't matter too much, probably a little better to lose weight earlier, but you gotta remember that it takes 1-2 years for fat redistribution to really start doing its thing, so you'd have to stay on the low side for a long while.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Sophia Sage on October 15, 2016, 05:03:39 PM
If anything, I think it helps to get a little underweight. Limit your calories, and exercise vigorously ramping up to an hour a day six days a week, with a mix of cardio (mostly cardio) and resistance training to keep your metabolism up.

At the very least, do this before you have surgery. Before HRT if you can -- it'll make your hormones that much more effective. 

As for weight gain after all is said and done, it's not going to be a panacea.  If you've got a beer belly now, that's what you'll get going forward.  It won't all go to your hips. 
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: davina61 on January 08, 2017, 06:59:13 AM
well lost 8lb this week,just 40 to go ::)
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Abbiem on January 08, 2017, 07:12:21 AM
Quote from: davina61 on January 08, 2017, 06:59:13 AM
well lost 8lb this week,just 40 to go ::)

Yes , goodluck Davina, iam trying to lose weight too before any surgery.
Title: Re: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: Artesia on January 08, 2017, 07:42:11 AM
I've been stuck at my weight since I started HRT.  I lost about 40Lbs prior to that, reading this I now wish I had waited, just so I could lose a bit more, but I'm not going to stop now, just going to try to do more to continue losing weight.
Title: Loosing weight before or after transition
Post by: jill610 on June 25, 2017, 11:30:37 AM
Based on the assumption that it'll be much harder to lose weight after hrt, I have lost 110# over the last year doing 3-4 hours of high intensity cardio a week, combined with a low sodium and low calorie diet, completely got rid of soda ( that was really super hard for me), and dramatically cutting down on beer and so on. I do worry that when/if hrt starts that there won't be much to redistribute as it is. The drop from 14 >> 8 though does wonders for self esteem and have way more energy.