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Title: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on July 30, 2013, 10:30:39 AM
Post by: Layn on July 30, 2013, 10:30:39 AM
Hi!
I'm getting a bit worried about not getting worried about the surgery and that because of that might end up forgetting something.
I'll be for the entirety of September in Chonburi and will have my surgery done by Suporn. I'll have my parents with me, which is great but i hope they'll take some time to tour around or else it'll probably be incredibly boring for them.
I've got a couple of letters from my my therapist (which also include HRT info) and i'm considering taking a copy of my birth certificate which already says female.
I've got my 3DS and more than enough games as well as a couple of books AND my laptop which should keep me entertained if need be (i'm also thinking on working on a personal game project of mine so i won't be entirely unproductive, but i think taking a wacom tablet with me would be too much).
I've got a few skirts and dresses (not all of them long though, but at least knee-length. Not many either), but as i hear i might just as well buy clothes there as i need them. (on that note, what about pyjamas? I wonder if some of the pyjama shorts i have might be too tight)
Oh i've just made an appointment with an OB-GYN, at about 2 months post-op. I imagine she has a better idea if what i have is how it should look like :P
I made sure my cat won't be alone during my time away (still need to buy food and everything to cover that time. TODO)
I still need to go out and renew my hormone prescription so i don't have to do that as soon as i'm back. It's on my todo list though.
I assuaged my parents fear about the whole experience with Adabelle's review video (thanks Adabelle! It really helped a lot :D)
I paid for the surgery already
I still need to update my music library on my laptop and phone! it's on the todo :P
I finally made my new passport (woo! with a "sex: F" and a bad photo and everything!)
My mother made sure she'll stay with me for the first two weeks back home in case i might need something.
Mhm that's all i can think of. I feel pretty prepared, but just because i think i've thought of everything doesn't mean i haven't missed something. Also i really didn't have much time to think about the surgery.
It would be great if you could help me complete my To Do list (and "to take to Thailand" list! very important)!
I'm getting a bit worried about not getting worried about the surgery and that because of that might end up forgetting something.
I'll be for the entirety of September in Chonburi and will have my surgery done by Suporn. I'll have my parents with me, which is great but i hope they'll take some time to tour around or else it'll probably be incredibly boring for them.
I've got a couple of letters from my my therapist (which also include HRT info) and i'm considering taking a copy of my birth certificate which already says female.
I've got my 3DS and more than enough games as well as a couple of books AND my laptop which should keep me entertained if need be (i'm also thinking on working on a personal game project of mine so i won't be entirely unproductive, but i think taking a wacom tablet with me would be too much).
I've got a few skirts and dresses (not all of them long though, but at least knee-length. Not many either), but as i hear i might just as well buy clothes there as i need them. (on that note, what about pyjamas? I wonder if some of the pyjama shorts i have might be too tight)
Oh i've just made an appointment with an OB-GYN, at about 2 months post-op. I imagine she has a better idea if what i have is how it should look like :P
I made sure my cat won't be alone during my time away (still need to buy food and everything to cover that time. TODO)
I still need to go out and renew my hormone prescription so i don't have to do that as soon as i'm back. It's on my todo list though.
I assuaged my parents fear about the whole experience with Adabelle's review video (thanks Adabelle! It really helped a lot :D)
I paid for the surgery already
I still need to update my music library on my laptop and phone! it's on the todo :P
I finally made my new passport (woo! with a "sex: F" and a bad photo and everything!)
My mother made sure she'll stay with me for the first two weeks back home in case i might need something.
Mhm that's all i can think of. I feel pretty prepared, but just because i think i've thought of everything doesn't mean i haven't missed something. Also i really didn't have much time to think about the surgery.
It would be great if you could help me complete my To Do list (and "to take to Thailand" list! very important)!
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on July 30, 2013, 11:50:18 AM
Post by: mrs izzy on July 30, 2013, 11:50:18 AM
If you are interested this is the supplies list i worked on before my GCS for when i got home. Combo list of what others have suggested for the first month post-op at home and doctors. As always try to get as much stocked as you can when there are sales. Keep in mind you might not be in much of a mood to shop so if you prep heavy nothing should go to waste. This should get you through first month with out any issues.
First month post supplies list
Tylenol
Maxi Heavy Flow pads x 20
Maxi Thin pads x 90
Panty liners x 40
Personal water based lube x 16 (4oz) tubes (i am thinking 4 a week x 4 weeks) or the type your doctor recommends.
Summers eve (Massengill) Vineger and water douce x 2 (clean and re-use applicator with your own mix)
hiciclens 4, dexidin 4 or hibitane (your doctor will advise to soak dilatators)
antibacterial soap x2 or (foam type)
Personal wipes (baby) No scent x 4 (soft of the bottom)
polysporin (with vit e) or Triple Antibiotic Ointment (or what your doctor suggestes)
Waterpoof Pads large size (bed protection)
4 cheap bath towels
Distilled water x 4 gal
Vinegar pure white 1 liter
betedine
Mesurement cup @ funnel
6 cheap wash cloths (face)
paper towels (bulk)
Mirror to prop up on bed (i use a hand mirror more then i used the one that had a stand)
1 container 12" x 5", 4" deep (storage of dilatators)
Panties (1 size larger then normal) pkg or 2
Re-useable cold compress (ice bag)
Adjust as you need if you get any suggestions from Doctors office or others you know who have been there.
Something i found after i did this list was lube. If you can buy it in bulk or when it is on sale get as many as you can. It is one thing that you will use a lot of over a very, very, very long time. I still now 4 monts post average 3 tubes a week to keep things comfortable.
Izzy
First month post supplies list
Tylenol
Maxi Heavy Flow pads x 20
Maxi Thin pads x 90
Panty liners x 40
Personal water based lube x 16 (4oz) tubes (i am thinking 4 a week x 4 weeks) or the type your doctor recommends.
Summers eve (Massengill) Vineger and water douce x 2 (clean and re-use applicator with your own mix)
hiciclens 4, dexidin 4 or hibitane (your doctor will advise to soak dilatators)
antibacterial soap x2 or (foam type)
Personal wipes (baby) No scent x 4 (soft of the bottom)
polysporin (with vit e) or Triple Antibiotic Ointment (or what your doctor suggestes)
Waterpoof Pads large size (bed protection)
4 cheap bath towels
Distilled water x 4 gal
Vinegar pure white 1 liter
betedine
Mesurement cup @ funnel
6 cheap wash cloths (face)
paper towels (bulk)
Mirror to prop up on bed (i use a hand mirror more then i used the one that had a stand)
1 container 12" x 5", 4" deep (storage of dilatators)
Panties (1 size larger then normal) pkg or 2
Re-useable cold compress (ice bag)
Adjust as you need if you get any suggestions from Doctors office or others you know who have been there.
Something i found after i did this list was lube. If you can buy it in bulk or when it is on sale get as many as you can. It is one thing that you will use a lot of over a very, very, very long time. I still now 4 monts post average 3 tubes a week to keep things comfortable.
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Flan on July 30, 2013, 03:29:09 PM
Post by: Flan on July 30, 2013, 03:29:09 PM
My 2 cents on the list:
A little overkill on medical supplies, especially if you're flying with it. Food will probably be the biggest issue since western take-out style food gets old fast depending on what the hotel room has cooking wise.
I almost got 10 days out of a 4 oz bottle (of lube) so figure only 4 bottles. That and they come usually in cases of 12.
In Thailand nobody drinks the water so locally sourced bottled water is easier to find. Wet wipes can substitute for paper towels. You'll probably use the container to clean the stents more than storage if using diluted hiciclens. It's also more than possible to clean the stents with foaming hand soap provided you rinse them to avoid irritation (that'll save some since you'll want the bottled water to drink).
For douching the blood/lube/gunk out, if possible a urinary catheter and oral syringe are more handy and gentler than commercial douche kits, especially if using diluted iodine. So the distilled water and vinegar probably will be wasted space.
Disposable chucks (bed liners) may be cheaper since after about 2 weeks (post) you can start reusing them.
And finally a box of nitrite gloves keeps you from having to get hands messy in the first place. The sekret of lube conservation is just spread a line on the stent and with gloved hand, roll a thin film over all the area expected to be in your vajayjay. Works every time for me and makes it pain-less.
A little overkill on medical supplies, especially if you're flying with it. Food will probably be the biggest issue since western take-out style food gets old fast depending on what the hotel room has cooking wise.
I almost got 10 days out of a 4 oz bottle (of lube) so figure only 4 bottles. That and they come usually in cases of 12.
In Thailand nobody drinks the water so locally sourced bottled water is easier to find. Wet wipes can substitute for paper towels. You'll probably use the container to clean the stents more than storage if using diluted hiciclens. It's also more than possible to clean the stents with foaming hand soap provided you rinse them to avoid irritation (that'll save some since you'll want the bottled water to drink).
For douching the blood/lube/gunk out, if possible a urinary catheter and oral syringe are more handy and gentler than commercial douche kits, especially if using diluted iodine. So the distilled water and vinegar probably will be wasted space.
Disposable chucks (bed liners) may be cheaper since after about 2 weeks (post) you can start reusing them.
And finally a box of nitrite gloves keeps you from having to get hands messy in the first place. The sekret of lube conservation is just spread a line on the stent and with gloved hand, roll a thin film over all the area expected to be in your vajayjay. Works every time for me and makes it pain-less.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Elainagirl59 on July 31, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Post by: Elainagirl59 on July 31, 2013, 09:56:48 AM
Hello Layn,
Congratulations on your upcoming SRS. I had my SRS with Dr Suporn in 2010.
You will not need any supplies for your stay in Chonburi. The clinic will provide
all supplies. When you return from the hospital your room will be stocked.
Towards the end of my stay some supplies were running low. I just asked for
more when the "clinic girl" came by for my check up and things were restocked
to the point that I had enough supplies for my first 2 weeks at home.
The clinic also provides all the pain medication, stool softener, anxiety medications
you require. Do make sure to bring any other medications, anti-depressant, blood
pressure, or whatever. I would also bring your hormones, after discussion with the
Dr you may decide to restart with a low dose.
Definitely bring cheap cotton panties a size bigger than you normally wear. I would also
bring a large plastic mug. I used the mug to wash up after dilations, the angle from the
shower head never hit the right spots. You will also need to wash up each time you
urinate. The toilets have a spray nozzle right next to them but the water is cold. It was
much nicer to have a mug of warm water available.
I don't know if I would bring my birth certificate. I think your passport is sufficient.
You mentioned you have 2 therapist letters. Have you had the clinic review these
letters? The therapist I worked with was an LCSW, and "certified sex therapist"
but not a Dr. Since her credentials were "borderline" under WPATH, I sent the
clinic a copy of her letter and credentials 2 months prior to leaving for Thailand.
This gave me time to get an additional letter if needed. Make sure to bring
the original letters!
I agree with you, Adabelle's video was really helpful and provides a great
feel for life in Chonburi.
Things will be fine! How long will you be in Chonburi prior to surgery?
I arrived 5 days prior to surgery. I didn't do any sight-seeing, just spending
the time walking around the clinic and getting over jet lag. I feel that it
is important to not overdo it. There was another girl that had surgery a couple
days after me. Her recovery was very difficult and I was spending time with her
in the hospital. As we talked she showed me some pictures. It turned out that
she spent 10 days "cramming" a sight-seeing trip to Thailand before arriving in
Chonburi with the minimal 2 days that the Dr requires. I came to think that she
had really overdone it and that may have contributed to her difficulties.
Best Wishes,
Elaina
Congratulations on your upcoming SRS. I had my SRS with Dr Suporn in 2010.
You will not need any supplies for your stay in Chonburi. The clinic will provide
all supplies. When you return from the hospital your room will be stocked.
Towards the end of my stay some supplies were running low. I just asked for
more when the "clinic girl" came by for my check up and things were restocked
to the point that I had enough supplies for my first 2 weeks at home.
The clinic also provides all the pain medication, stool softener, anxiety medications
you require. Do make sure to bring any other medications, anti-depressant, blood
pressure, or whatever. I would also bring your hormones, after discussion with the
Dr you may decide to restart with a low dose.
Definitely bring cheap cotton panties a size bigger than you normally wear. I would also
bring a large plastic mug. I used the mug to wash up after dilations, the angle from the
shower head never hit the right spots. You will also need to wash up each time you
urinate. The toilets have a spray nozzle right next to them but the water is cold. It was
much nicer to have a mug of warm water available.
I don't know if I would bring my birth certificate. I think your passport is sufficient.
You mentioned you have 2 therapist letters. Have you had the clinic review these
letters? The therapist I worked with was an LCSW, and "certified sex therapist"
but not a Dr. Since her credentials were "borderline" under WPATH, I sent the
clinic a copy of her letter and credentials 2 months prior to leaving for Thailand.
This gave me time to get an additional letter if needed. Make sure to bring
the original letters!
I agree with you, Adabelle's video was really helpful and provides a great
feel for life in Chonburi.
Things will be fine! How long will you be in Chonburi prior to surgery?
I arrived 5 days prior to surgery. I didn't do any sight-seeing, just spending
the time walking around the clinic and getting over jet lag. I feel that it
is important to not overdo it. There was another girl that had surgery a couple
days after me. Her recovery was very difficult and I was spending time with her
in the hospital. As we talked she showed me some pictures. It turned out that
she spent 10 days "cramming" a sight-seeing trip to Thailand before arriving in
Chonburi with the minimal 2 days that the Dr requires. I came to think that she
had really overdone it and that may have contributed to her difficulties.
Best Wishes,
Elaina
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 01, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
Post by: Layn on August 01, 2013, 05:53:20 AM
thanks for all the replies!
Although i'm a bit confused now.
as Elaina said i had understood that the medically necessary supplies would be given by the clinic, so i'm guessing that everything else is for added comfort, less of a mess and generally to make things easier? And Izzys recommendations i understood to be only for when i'm already back home?
Some things i don't even know how and when to use :P Yeah kind of confused
oh the birth certificate was for added documentation when i'm at the clinic. I have a couple of letters from the same therapist. One of them is pretty detailed and that's the one Sophie said was okay, although i find it strange that a single document with a translation to english done by myself is enough. So, i want to make sure i'll take anything that might help.
i'd have probably 2 1/2 days before surgery? My parents said they'd like to see bangkok with me before surgery but even if we weren't short on time then, my mind would probably be too busy thinking about the surgery. It'd kind of be a waste and exhausting.
Although i'm a bit confused now.
as Elaina said i had understood that the medically necessary supplies would be given by the clinic, so i'm guessing that everything else is for added comfort, less of a mess and generally to make things easier? And Izzys recommendations i understood to be only for when i'm already back home?
Some things i don't even know how and when to use :P Yeah kind of confused
oh the birth certificate was for added documentation when i'm at the clinic. I have a couple of letters from the same therapist. One of them is pretty detailed and that's the one Sophie said was okay, although i find it strange that a single document with a translation to english done by myself is enough. So, i want to make sure i'll take anything that might help.
i'd have probably 2 1/2 days before surgery? My parents said they'd like to see bangkok with me before surgery but even if we weren't short on time then, my mind would probably be too busy thinking about the surgery. It'd kind of be a waste and exhausting.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Adabelle on August 03, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
Post by: Adabelle on August 03, 2013, 08:17:44 PM
I agree. Take as little as possible except for things to entertain yourself like a laptop, 3DS, or whatever. I think a camera is great to have.
The pads given to you by the clinic are totally adequate in my opinion, if anything you could bring one package of pads. But honestly right across the street there's a grocery store that has all that - soaps, shampoo, pads, EVERYTHING. It's not like you'll be in the middle of nowhere, there will be other girls there and modern stores around. There's even a pharmacy right across the street for any specialty medical stuff.
If there are things you really like (I brought some of my favorite chocolate bars) that can be nice. And I brought some little cards to give to some of the other girls and write notes to them on - this helped me make some friends.
But otherwise I'd just bring light clothes, things to sleep in, and then not worry too much. Keep in mind that it's totally normal to get nervous before this (and even have doubts) we all express our nervousness in different ways so maybe planning your luggage is helpful - but just know that you'll be well taken care of for all your medical needs.
Enjoy your time there - I was a little nervous but I ended up loving every minute! I made a little video review that shows what it's like to be there a little. It might be helpful for you.
The pads given to you by the clinic are totally adequate in my opinion, if anything you could bring one package of pads. But honestly right across the street there's a grocery store that has all that - soaps, shampoo, pads, EVERYTHING. It's not like you'll be in the middle of nowhere, there will be other girls there and modern stores around. There's even a pharmacy right across the street for any specialty medical stuff.
If there are things you really like (I brought some of my favorite chocolate bars) that can be nice. And I brought some little cards to give to some of the other girls and write notes to them on - this helped me make some friends.
But otherwise I'd just bring light clothes, things to sleep in, and then not worry too much. Keep in mind that it's totally normal to get nervous before this (and even have doubts) we all express our nervousness in different ways so maybe planning your luggage is helpful - but just know that you'll be well taken care of for all your medical needs.
Enjoy your time there - I was a little nervous but I ended up loving every minute! I made a little video review that shows what it's like to be there a little. It might be helpful for you.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 10, 2013, 06:54:40 PM
Post by: Layn on August 10, 2013, 06:54:40 PM
hi!
the entertainment part i made sure to have covered. I've got plenty of games prepared, and i even bought a long JRPG and an endless game (Animal Crossing) to make absolutely sure (but i'm also absolutely sure that wasn't necessary :P). I'm getting the feeling that an ebook reader would have been perfect for such an occasion... but i just can't get over the need to actually have a book in my hands when reading. Well i'll have to take that 1300 page monstrosity with me along with the other books. I think i might be over-prepared in this aspect :P. I hope i won't be a shut-in spending all the time trying to get through all the stuff i brought instead of socializing :P
i hope i'm packing the right clothes, since i've got no idea what i'd feel comfortable in in that weather. I imagine it's best to not take too much and just bolster my wardrobe once i'm there and know what i need (although it'll probably take a while until i can go myself).
I did watch your video! I mentioned in my first post that it helped my parents to worry less! Before watching it they thought i'd be bed-ridden for most of the time and miserable and that everything would be difficult and all in all a terrible experience. They were so relieved when they saw the opposite. I really liked seeing everything too! I had no idea what to expect before watching it! I'm probably going to watch it again before going and again when i get there to help me adapt.
I am getting nervous, but i'm also starting to really look forward to it. I really need a change of airs, since i've been stuck here for way too long, so it's kind of a long deserved vacation too! Just with a bit more pain and time than i'm used to.
the entertainment part i made sure to have covered. I've got plenty of games prepared, and i even bought a long JRPG and an endless game (Animal Crossing) to make absolutely sure (but i'm also absolutely sure that wasn't necessary :P). I'm getting the feeling that an ebook reader would have been perfect for such an occasion... but i just can't get over the need to actually have a book in my hands when reading. Well i'll have to take that 1300 page monstrosity with me along with the other books. I think i might be over-prepared in this aspect :P. I hope i won't be a shut-in spending all the time trying to get through all the stuff i brought instead of socializing :P
i hope i'm packing the right clothes, since i've got no idea what i'd feel comfortable in in that weather. I imagine it's best to not take too much and just bolster my wardrobe once i'm there and know what i need (although it'll probably take a while until i can go myself).
I did watch your video! I mentioned in my first post that it helped my parents to worry less! Before watching it they thought i'd be bed-ridden for most of the time and miserable and that everything would be difficult and all in all a terrible experience. They were so relieved when they saw the opposite. I really liked seeing everything too! I had no idea what to expect before watching it! I'm probably going to watch it again before going and again when i get there to help me adapt.
I am getting nervous, but i'm also starting to really look forward to it. I really need a change of airs, since i've been stuck here for way too long, so it's kind of a long deserved vacation too! Just with a bit more pain and time than i'm used to.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on August 21, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on August 21, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
Quote from: mind is quiet now on July 30, 2013, 11:50:18 AM
First month post supplies list
Tylenol
Maxi Heavy Flow pads x 20
Maxi Thin pads x 90
Panty liners x 40
Personal water based lube x 16 (4oz) tubes (i am thinking 4 a week x 4 weeks) or the type your doctor recommends.
Summers eve (Massengill) Vineger and water douce x 2 (clean and re-use applicator with your own mix)
hiciclens 4, dexidin 4 or hibitane (your doctor will advise to soak dilatators)
antibacterial soap x2 or (foam type)
Personal wipes (baby) No scent x 4 (soft of the bottom)
polysporin (with vit e) or Triple Antibiotic Ointment (or what your doctor suggestes)
Waterpoof Pads large size (bed protection)
4 cheap bath towels
Distilled water x 4 gal
Vinegar pure white 1 liter
betedine
Mesurement cup @ funnel
6 cheap wash cloths (face)
paper towels (bulk)
Mirror to prop up on bed (i use a hand mirror more then i used the one that had a stand)
1 container 12" x 5", 4" deep (storage of dilatators)
Panties (1 size larger then normal) pkg or 2
Re-useable cold compress (ice bag)
Izzy
Quite useful list. I am currently preparing my check-up list before I depart to Thailand
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Jamie D on August 21, 2013, 02:17:16 AM
Post by: Jamie D on August 21, 2013, 02:17:16 AM
Best of luck to you Layn! :)
And to you too Laura! :D
And to you too Laura! :D
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Zumbagirl on August 21, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
Post by: Zumbagirl on August 21, 2013, 06:39:16 AM
I agree with Elaina, travel light and keep it simple. The first month after surgery is pretty much all about the vagina (or as I fondly remembered it frankenpussy). You will spend so many waking moments having it cared for and caring for it yourself you will lose sight of how fast time passes. I had a laptop with me and hardly used it. I found reading a good book or 2 was much easier. I would also recommend that whatever clothes you bring are clothes that you can dress and undress quickly and easily for the dilation sessions. Once you are back on your feet and dilating is no longer a full time job then you can work on your projects. There's plenty of time for all that then.
Enjoy yourself! The clinic is very nice and the people were all wonderful. I didn't have my SRS there but I met a few having surgery there and the experience was nice. Best of luck!
Enjoy yourself! The clinic is very nice and the people were all wonderful. I didn't have my SRS there but I met a few having surgery there and the experience was nice. Best of luck!
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 21, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
Post by: Layn on August 21, 2013, 11:47:23 AM
thanks you all :D
I just remembered another question! As i understood all power outlets have a voltage similar to europe, so that's not a problem, but it seems in thailand the plugs can be both round (like in europe) and flat (like in the US?). Does anyone know what they're like in the hospital and the hotel?
I just remembered another question! As i understood all power outlets have a voltage similar to europe, so that's not a problem, but it seems in thailand the plugs can be both round (like in europe) and flat (like in the US?). Does anyone know what they're like in the hospital and the hotel?
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Jamie D on August 21, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
Post by: Jamie D on August 21, 2013, 05:06:02 PM
International adaptors are relatively inexpensive
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 22, 2013, 06:42:52 AM
Post by: Layn on August 22, 2013, 06:42:52 AM
but do i even need one? that's my question? I think we already have adapters, i just want to know if it's even needed
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Flan on August 22, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
Post by: Flan on August 22, 2013, 07:58:13 PM
Quote from: Layn on August 22, 2013, 06:42:52 AMMost modern hotels use US style 3 prong but there's the possibility of needing one for 2 prong, same size plugs. It's safest to bring an adapter in case although many hotels will also have adapters available for use.
but do i even need one? that's my question? I think we already have adapters, i just want to know if it's even needed
http://www.whatplug.net/
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 23, 2013, 02:37:33 AM
Post by: Layn on August 23, 2013, 02:37:33 AM
thanks!
It's a few days, but it's weekend and i imagine i'll be a bit lost and busy then. But you know what? I keep forgetting my parents won't be bound to a hospital bed after MY surgery :P. They'll have a bit more time. I just like to make sure that when i get there and have to recharge stuff i wont have to wait a few days
It's a few days, but it's weekend and i imagine i'll be a bit lost and busy then. But you know what? I keep forgetting my parents won't be bound to a hospital bed after MY surgery :P. They'll have a bit more time. I just like to make sure that when i get there and have to recharge stuff i wont have to wait a few days
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 24, 2013, 12:12:08 PM
Post by: Layn on August 24, 2013, 12:12:08 PM
urgh stopped taking hormones now because it said so in the guide. Can't i even take anti-androgens? it's making me nervous allowing my body to produce testosterone, even if it's only for 10 days.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Adabelle on August 24, 2013, 05:42:30 PM
Post by: Adabelle on August 24, 2013, 05:42:30 PM
Quote from: Layn on August 24, 2013, 12:12:08 PM
urgh stopped taking hormones now because it said so in the guide. Can't i even take anti-androgens? it's making me nervous allowing my body to produce testosterone, even if it's only for 10 days.
Follow the instructions of the doctor. Many have gone before you and stopped antiandrogens and estrogen before surgery as the doctor instructs - don't worry, you won't grow a beard in 10 days. :)
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on August 25, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
Post by: Layn on August 25, 2013, 06:08:50 PM
:P i wasn't sure if anti-androgens were part of "hormones", because, well... they're anti-hormones! ... it makes sense! Specially if you wish really really hard for that logic to work.
I'm starting to have some doubts and fear, which i imagine comes from the surgery being next week. Oh well, i'll just trust past me that she thought really well about this and didn't send (present) me to a surgery i might regret.
mhm i wonder if anyone there plays Magic or Pokémon TCG
I'm starting to have some doubts and fear, which i imagine comes from the surgery being next week. Oh well, i'll just trust past me that she thought really well about this and didn't send (present) me to a surgery i might regret.
mhm i wonder if anyone there plays Magic or Pokémon TCG
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on August 25, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
Post by: mrs izzy on August 25, 2013, 06:15:43 PM
Quote from: Adabelle on August 24, 2013, 05:42:30 PM
Follow the instructions of the doctor. Many have gone before you and stopped antiandrogens and estrogen before surgery as the doctor instructs - don't worry, you won't grow a beard in 10 days. :)
I will agree with all this but day 11 omg........ LOL
Your lucky i had to quit 3 months out and i i was just starting to see some extra body hair growth. That went back away 2nd month post.
Relax, take a deep breathe and you will be fine. Just a walk i the park once they knock you out. I would start thinking of what you will do to relax through all the dilations more then the op.
Hugs
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 05, 2013, 03:30:26 AM
Post by: Layn on September 05, 2013, 03:30:26 AM
a small update:
everything went super well. I was worried the night before (all dark and pessimistic thoughts) and a friend helped me through it. The day of surgery i felt really good, before and after surgery both. The only problem is that everyone wants me to rest, but then people keep coming in my room to check up on me or visit me :P. Hospital food has been much better than advertised (which made me eat faster and more than i should on the first day :P). I also met a lot of nice people, who i hope to see again once i leave the hospital. And the staff is great.
I just wish the mattress was better. ouch.
everything went super well. I was worried the night before (all dark and pessimistic thoughts) and a friend helped me through it. The day of surgery i felt really good, before and after surgery both. The only problem is that everyone wants me to rest, but then people keep coming in my room to check up on me or visit me :P. Hospital food has been much better than advertised (which made me eat faster and more than i should on the first day :P). I also met a lot of nice people, who i hope to see again once i leave the hospital. And the staff is great.
I just wish the mattress was better. ouch.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Cindy on September 05, 2013, 04:17:08 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 05, 2013, 04:17:08 AM
Great to hear you are OK.
Hugs
Cindy
Hugs
Cindy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on September 08, 2013, 04:27:41 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on September 08, 2013, 04:27:41 AM
Quote from: Layn on September 05, 2013, 03:30:26 AM
a small update:
everything went super well. I was worried the night before (all dark and pessimistic thoughts) and a friend helped me through it. The day of surgery i felt really good, before and after surgery both. The only problem is that everyone wants me to rest, but then people keep coming in my room to check up on me or visit me :P. Hospital food has been much better than advertised (which made me eat faster and more than i should on the first day :P). I also met a lot of nice people, who i hope to see again once i leave the hospital. And the staff is great.
I just wish the mattress was better. ouch.
Hi Layn,
Wonderful to hear everything went well. I will have my SRS with dr Suporn on 20th November and I am already quite nervous.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 08, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
Post by: Layn on September 08, 2013, 05:47:18 AM
Quote from: Lauratranswoman on September 08, 2013, 04:27:41 AMHi Laura!
Hi Layn,
Wonderful to hear everything went well. I will have my SRS with dr Suporn on 20th November and I am already quite nervous.
Wish you good luck with your surgery!
Yeah the surgery went great and i think i've been healing well. I think others haven't had it as easy, but i think it comes down to how much rest each person's body needs. It seems however somewhat consistent to get cranky on day 3. Might be the lack of hormones, might be the fact you have to stay in bed for 5 days, or it might just be because my butt is sore from lying on it for so long :P. They help you turn of course, but i prefer facing my laptop. Basically, everyone says the surgery is the hard part, but it's really the waiting until you can stand again that's taxing. Thankfully the staff is great. Did i mention that the staff is great? (i know i did) they're really nice and always there when you call them. They take great care and always make sure that you're okay. Sometimes communication is difficult (i should probably use that phrase book they gave me :P) but no matter what, they do everything they can to support me.
Mhm what else? Getting sick of the air conditioner. Never liked them and now i can't even open a window. I haven't gotten anyone to play Magic with me... yet! The weather looks dreadful right now which makes me happy to be inside. As i mentioned i brought a lot of entertainment, but it's kinda hard to choose what to do. Some things tire too much, others are not engaging enough. It's good if it's engrossing, but you need to be able to pause at any time. etc. Reading a book seems to be most reliable for most occasions, but i'm finding good quiet moments near night time for more contemplativev(indie) games.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on September 08, 2013, 07:20:57 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on September 08, 2013, 07:20:57 AM
This sounds fab! Many thanks! I am a bit relieved ;-)
I've got another query: what is your first reaction when you woke up after surgery and saw there wasn't anything hanging there between your legs? I just wonder how I will react. Probably relieved and very happy.
I've got another query: what is your first reaction when you woke up after surgery and saw there wasn't anything hanging there between your legs? I just wonder how I will react. Probably relieved and very happy.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 08, 2013, 08:14:22 AM
Post by: Layn on September 08, 2013, 08:14:22 AM
well, i haven't seen anything so far since it's all bandaged up. I know it's different there now, and it feels a bit different, but not completely, as my brain took some time to comprehend that things down there are rearranged. and well, i have a catheter coming out of the bandages so essentially i still sorta have a penis. It's just plastic and really long and goes into a bag :P. tomorrow the bandages come off so i imagine that's when it becomes real to me. I imagine even then it'll be kind of a whirlwind of thoughts, emotions, things to do, etc. and only when i get home and look at the mirror in my own room that i've looked at every day i'll really truly understand that it is real.
As for first thoughts in general when waking up...i don't quite remember waking up. My parents say i was awake when they brought me to my room, but i don't remember. The first thing i remember after the surgery is giving my father tech support on how to get online on his laptop in the hospital :P. It isn't really something you should do right after a surgery, but he wanted to tell the rest of the family everything went well. Oh well, it's what i always have to do and i think it helped me get bright and awake early on which improved my mood over the first days.
As for first thoughts in general when waking up...i don't quite remember waking up. My parents say i was awake when they brought me to my room, but i don't remember. The first thing i remember after the surgery is giving my father tech support on how to get online on his laptop in the hospital :P. It isn't really something you should do right after a surgery, but he wanted to tell the rest of the family everything went well. Oh well, it's what i always have to do and i think it helped me get bright and awake early on which improved my mood over the first days.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on September 09, 2013, 09:58:29 AM
Post by: mrs izzy on September 09, 2013, 09:58:29 AM
Layn,
Glad things so far have been going well for you. I wish you a fast recovery and easy dilations.
Take things day by day, do what you need to make yourself comfortable. It does get better with each passing day.
Hugs
Izzy
Glad things so far have been going well for you. I wish you a fast recovery and easy dilations.
Take things day by day, do what you need to make yourself comfortable. It does get better with each passing day.
Hugs
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on September 15, 2013, 05:07:30 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on September 15, 2013, 05:07:30 AM
Hi Layn,
How are you now? Still on the right track?
L. x
How are you now? Still on the right track?
L. x
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 15, 2013, 09:42:43 AM
Post by: Layn on September 15, 2013, 09:42:43 AM
Had a bit of a meltdown yesterday. Not because of anything specific and definitely not just surgery/recovery related. It's just everything negative i was feeling culminated and crashed down on me. I'm feeling better now, but i've been feeling a bit more pain and small wounds appeared that i'm just not understanding how. However that's nitpicking since apparently i'm healing pretty well overall. I haven't been getting out much to let those wounds heal but i think i really need to get a bit out. I really want to spend a bit of time with the clinic's cat/cat that hangs out at the clinic(?) and of course everyone else who is here
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on September 15, 2013, 11:33:20 AM
Post by: mrs izzy on September 15, 2013, 11:33:20 AM
"and small wounds appeared that i'm just not understanding how". I know about these they just seem to pop up with any warning. For me they freaked me out everytime but they did calm down and started to re heal ok. I think most of mine was as the stitches started to disolve it gave a litte spot for the inside pressure to work its way out???
Relax as much as you can, also leave your bits hang out and air as much as you can, that seemed to help speed the healing.
Great ideas to get out to see some people and also pets are always something that can bring calm in humans.
Hugs and glad all in all things are going good.
Izzy
Relax as much as you can, also leave your bits hang out and air as much as you can, that seemed to help speed the healing.
Great ideas to get out to see some people and also pets are always something that can bring calm in humans.
Hugs and glad all in all things are going good.
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Adabelle on September 15, 2013, 07:54:36 PM
Post by: Adabelle on September 15, 2013, 07:54:36 PM
I had two 'meltdowns' while I was there. I think it's normal to have something like this happen. Luckily my parents were there during one of them and got me a milkshake to get my blood sugar back up, and in the other one I became super dysphoric because of the pain and sensations in my vagina so I talked with a friend. But thankfully that was it. I can say even though you have pain and discomfort (and it's a little strange) in the beginning things do get better! :)
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 15, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Post by: Layn on September 15, 2013, 08:27:28 PM
Quote from: mind is quiet now on September 15, 2013, 11:33:20 AMI'm not sure i understand, but it did only happen after getting a few stitches removed, which sounds similar!
I think most of mine was as the stitches started to disolve it gave a litte spot for the inside pressure to work its way out???
I couldn't ask my parents for anything since they were a part of why i had a meltdown and so i excused myself and tried to cry quietly and a friend helped me a bit.
Did anyone watch that thai commercial that has been floating around? It's from true (the wifi provider at the hospital for example). It's already emotional, but it hit me harder since i just was in a thai hospital, just used their services and also have bills in baht right now and i just immediately bawled. My god that could not have been more appropriately timed.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 21, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
Post by: Layn on September 21, 2013, 10:36:24 AM
Update!
... nothing special going on :P
well i've started hormones again. started dynamic dilation (which seems so much better!). large dilator is starting to feel normal sized. everything down there feels tingly. everyones slowly going stir-crazy. i'm loving the post-op care booklet i've been given (i love that it says that after 3 months you can have intercourse, and a few sentences later it says after 6 months you can ENJOY intercourse). starting the third book i've brought (Cloud Atlas. I loved the movie and am really curious about the completely different structure in the book). aaaaand... yeah i can't think of anything more. Really the thing that still touches me the most is meeting and talking with all the diverse and interesting women all of whom understand exactly what i've been feeling my whole life and what i'm going through right now. Talking about the most diverse things, all the happy moments we've had, some of the sad moments we've had, and all kinds of things that just interest us. It's what i wish it had been like for me with support groups.
... nothing special going on :P
well i've started hormones again. started dynamic dilation (which seems so much better!). large dilator is starting to feel normal sized. everything down there feels tingly. everyones slowly going stir-crazy. i'm loving the post-op care booklet i've been given (i love that it says that after 3 months you can have intercourse, and a few sentences later it says after 6 months you can ENJOY intercourse). starting the third book i've brought (Cloud Atlas. I loved the movie and am really curious about the completely different structure in the book). aaaaand... yeah i can't think of anything more. Really the thing that still touches me the most is meeting and talking with all the diverse and interesting women all of whom understand exactly what i've been feeling my whole life and what i'm going through right now. Talking about the most diverse things, all the happy moments we've had, some of the sad moments we've had, and all kinds of things that just interest us. It's what i wish it had been like for me with support groups.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on September 22, 2013, 07:27:57 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on September 22, 2013, 07:27:57 AM
Hi Layn,
Fantastic to hear everything is going fine. I still have to wait for another 59 days to get my 'big' moment.
Keep us updated!
Take care,
L. x
Fantastic to hear everything is going fine. I still have to wait for another 59 days to get my 'big' moment.
Keep us updated!
Take care,
L. x
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on September 29, 2013, 04:28:29 AM
Post by: Layn on September 29, 2013, 04:28:29 AM
I'm back home now. It's nice to be home, but i was greeted by a lot of annoyances which probably caused my first dilation back home to be harder. I think i might have lost 1 cm. Not too bad, since i'm still above what i expected and had at the start, but i really do hope to gain it back in the next session. It's weird, but at this point i wish i was still in Thailand. That might change once i get my routine working again and i've come out to half of my roommates who still don't know. Ayup, probably should have done that earlier
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: LauraGirl on October 06, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
Post by: LauraGirl on October 06, 2013, 09:24:24 AM
I wish you good luck! How are the dilations now?
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on October 06, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
Post by: Layn on October 06, 2013, 10:09:03 AM
I'm feeling better and coming out worked out well. Well, okay the one roommate i've only told about my big operation and how it affects me, but no details so far. I don't feel like coming out to yet another person right now.
Anyway. Dilations. Hate it. Getting sick and sore and tired of it. I feel like taking a break from it, but i just can't and i have to do it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again *sigh* AND AGAIN. BAH. 2 more months of 3 times a day during scar tissue contraction or whatever it was that is making it harder. Can't wait for it to get easier.
Anyway. Dilations. Hate it. Getting sick and sore and tired of it. I feel like taking a break from it, but i just can't and i have to do it again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again *sigh* AND AGAIN. BAH. 2 more months of 3 times a day during scar tissue contraction or whatever it was that is making it harder. Can't wait for it to get easier.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on October 06, 2013, 10:24:56 AM
Post by: mrs izzy on October 06, 2013, 10:24:56 AM
Glad you are feeling better. Yep dilations are a huge part of our lives early post. I just hit my 6 month mark and now down to 1x a day. I am still having issues with my PC musle not stoping it fight to keep things extra tight. Even now only having 1 x a day it seem now to be way harder to get in then when more times a day. Guess at some point it dilations start to win the battle over the body trying to close things back up.
It does not really take long for the time to get to the 1x a day, just keep them up.
Hugs
Izzy
It does not really take long for the time to get to the 1x a day, just keep them up.
Hugs
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on October 07, 2013, 04:31:49 AM
Post by: Layn on October 07, 2013, 04:31:49 AM
I woke up to some bleeding this morning. I had been warned that it could happen, but mainly from the urethra and inside the vagina. I think the blood is coming from somewhere nearer to the clitoris. I'm hoping it's just some popped granulation i hadn't noticed before... There's no sense in worrying immediately too much, but still it's a bit scary (and annoying) to suddenly be bleeding again and not being sure where it's from. Well i'm saying that it's not from the urethra since my urine isn't colored in any way, but yesterday i've been peeing relatively straight and today it was like something was covering from above the exit.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: mrs izzy on October 08, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
Post by: mrs izzy on October 08, 2013, 09:08:56 PM
Yes blood freaked me out each time. I am at my 6 month mark and still time to time get a little tinge of blood mixed in with the lube.
Take it as you need, if it get heavy try to get to see the doctor.
Izzy
Take it as you need, if it get heavy try to get to see the doctor.
Izzy
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: JenJen2011 on October 18, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
Post by: JenJen2011 on October 18, 2013, 09:32:38 PM
Hey Layn. Can we get an update? :P
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on October 19, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
Post by: Layn on October 19, 2013, 01:27:42 AM
oh, right, sorry! Last update was "bloooooooooooooooood" which followed by silence can sound... discouraging :P
i found a bit of bleeding a few more times. I'm still not sure what it is. I think it might something to do with trying to sleep on my side. Everyone else seems to be doing it, and sleeping on my back is starting to be uncomfortable. However i think it creates too much pressure on the wound, specially with my fat inner thighs! I've tried several pillows between the legs, but i still feel some pressure.
I've went through some pretty depressed days, and right afterwards (and still currently, i think) very happy and giddy days :D. In both cases it started with nothing in particular (i think it might have been loneliness, and well, not feeling enough like a person, since i'm mostly at home and dilating and then just... waiting for the next session), but the getting better did coincide with taking stronger painkillers! :P
You know, i do miss aiming to pee, but it surprises me how quickly and easy i adapted to seeing something else between my legs in the mirror, considering i've had a penis for... well obviously my entire life. I was worried i might not feel enough dysphoria about it and would have a small bit of difficulty adapting to the change, but it turns out i've completely forgotten how it was before! :P
i found a bit of bleeding a few more times. I'm still not sure what it is. I think it might something to do with trying to sleep on my side. Everyone else seems to be doing it, and sleeping on my back is starting to be uncomfortable. However i think it creates too much pressure on the wound, specially with my fat inner thighs! I've tried several pillows between the legs, but i still feel some pressure.
I've went through some pretty depressed days, and right afterwards (and still currently, i think) very happy and giddy days :D. In both cases it started with nothing in particular (i think it might have been loneliness, and well, not feeling enough like a person, since i'm mostly at home and dilating and then just... waiting for the next session), but the getting better did coincide with taking stronger painkillers! :P
You know, i do miss aiming to pee, but it surprises me how quickly and easy i adapted to seeing something else between my legs in the mirror, considering i've had a penis for... well obviously my entire life. I was worried i might not feel enough dysphoria about it and would have a small bit of difficulty adapting to the change, but it turns out i've completely forgotten how it was before! :P
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on October 30, 2013, 02:24:45 PM
Post by: Layn on October 30, 2013, 02:24:45 PM
I went to the gynecologist and was really nervous, but it was great! I seriously loved it. Okay she didn't look at my vagina, which is okay because we both agreed that it might be way too early, but we mostly talked about various questions i had.
She knew from the start that i'm transsexual because i decided to be honest and forthcoming on the questionnaire they gave me while i was waiting for the appointment. She has no experience with us but was eager to learn and to get things right. She also agreed to basically become my endo, which is great since my endocrinologist is too far away, so i'll be asking them to transfer my file and all info she may need to her. When she wasn't sure about something for my specific case she researched for a bit and at the end prescribed me a few things that may be helpful. We also talked about general women's health stuff like checking for breast cancer among other things.
I've been having more pain lately. Some nylon stitches are poking out near the clitoris and it's being really bothersome, but thankfully i have pain medication. Dilations are getting easier, but i still feel like i don't have time to do anything the entire day. It's really taking over my life and it's hard to deal with that. I'm looking forward to reducing the amount of sessions per day in a month. I've been playing the new Pokémon during dilations :P. The only problem i have is using the face buttons when trying to talk with someone or trying to use something, since i only have one hand free.
She knew from the start that i'm transsexual because i decided to be honest and forthcoming on the questionnaire they gave me while i was waiting for the appointment. She has no experience with us but was eager to learn and to get things right. She also agreed to basically become my endo, which is great since my endocrinologist is too far away, so i'll be asking them to transfer my file and all info she may need to her. When she wasn't sure about something for my specific case she researched for a bit and at the end prescribed me a few things that may be helpful. We also talked about general women's health stuff like checking for breast cancer among other things.
I've been having more pain lately. Some nylon stitches are poking out near the clitoris and it's being really bothersome, but thankfully i have pain medication. Dilations are getting easier, but i still feel like i don't have time to do anything the entire day. It's really taking over my life and it's hard to deal with that. I'm looking forward to reducing the amount of sessions per day in a month. I've been playing the new Pokémon during dilations :P. The only problem i have is using the face buttons when trying to talk with someone or trying to use something, since i only have one hand free.
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Katie on October 30, 2013, 02:55:01 PM
Post by: Katie on October 30, 2013, 02:55:01 PM
Ha the most important thing I can tell you is something you don't even take with you to Thailand. My doctor (and I presume yours) will give you two types of pain meds. Save one of the powerful ones for the dam airplane flight home. Take it when you get on the plane and life will be so much easier!!
Katie
Katie
Title: Re: Checking what i need before going to Thailand
Post by: Layn on October 30, 2013, 03:33:55 PM
Post by: Layn on October 30, 2013, 03:33:55 PM
Quote from: Katie on October 30, 2013, 02:55:01 PMway too late for that :P But i did okay. I thankfully didn't use to have that much pain. Now i'm using something else that my gyno prescriped. I didn't use the pain meds they gave in thailand much, but after a few days the tramal didn't seem to have any effect any more...
Ha the most important thing I can tell you is something you don't even take with you to Thailand. My doctor (and I presume yours) will give you two types of pain meds. Save one of the powerful ones for the dam airplane flight home. Take it when you get on the plane and life will be so much easier!!
Katie