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Title: Avalokitesvara
Post by: The Middle Way on June 18, 2007, 08:15:45 PM
Post by: The Middle Way on June 18, 2007, 08:15:45 PM
The Goddess of Compassion, the One who hears the sounds of the world, especially the crying, is alive and well and active in this realm...
Trust me on this.
nota
Trust me on this.
nota
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Melissa-kitty on June 19, 2007, 12:20:53 PM
Post by: Melissa-kitty on June 19, 2007, 12:20:53 PM
Om Tare Tuttare Ture Soha.
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: The Middle Way on June 19, 2007, 02:31:38 PM
Post by: The Middle Way on June 19, 2007, 02:31:38 PM
thank you Tara
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Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Melissa-kitty on June 19, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
Post by: Melissa-kitty on June 19, 2007, 07:22:13 PM
You are very welcome, friend. Just a tear of Chenrezig here.
Tara
Tara
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Suzie on July 02, 2007, 08:56:33 AM
Post by: Suzie on July 02, 2007, 08:56:33 AM
Quote from: None of the Above on June 18, 2007, 08:15:45 PM
The Goddess of Compassion, the One who hears the sounds of the world, especially the crying, is alive and well and active in this realm...
Trust me on this.
nota
Which sect of Buddhism believes in Gods/Goddesses? Do you believe there is an external entity, separate from yourself, that acts out compassionately to other beings?
Sorry, just looking for clarification. I'm interested in different schools of Buddhist thought.
xo,
Suzie
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Doc on July 02, 2007, 05:11:48 PM
Post by: Doc on July 02, 2007, 05:11:48 PM
I thought Avalokiteshvara is a bodhisattva, not a diety. And a transgendered person, too.
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: The Middle Way on July 03, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Post by: The Middle Way on July 03, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
She be the Mahaboddhisattva, the Big One. {'Goddess' is a figure of speech, doesn't refer to any deificatium there.} And yes, as He moved in tha easterly directium, started being shown as She. Go figure.
Though, sometimes you can still see a moustache... ;)
Though, sometimes you can still see a moustache... ;)
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Melissa-kitty on July 03, 2007, 01:50:17 PM
Post by: Melissa-kitty on July 03, 2007, 01:50:17 PM
How you see Avalokiteshvara depends on your perspective in history and tradition, as well as on your own very personal experiences. There is a difference in how one thinks of deities and bodhisattvas depending on culture and tradition (e.g. Tibetan vs Theraveda). However, I suspect that as one's mind clarifies, any differences dissolve.
It blew my mind for years trying to get my head around the idea that a human can become a deity, or a deity become human. Quite beautiful, really. Then there is the wonderful practice of deity yoga. Heartening.
Tashe Delek, Tara
It blew my mind for years trying to get my head around the idea that a human can become a deity, or a deity become human. Quite beautiful, really. Then there is the wonderful practice of deity yoga. Heartening.
Tashe Delek, Tara
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: Suzie on July 03, 2007, 02:41:07 PM
Post by: Suzie on July 03, 2007, 02:41:07 PM
Quote from: None of the Above on July 03, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Though, sometimes you can still see a moustache... ;)
Yeah, for decent permanent hair removal, she had to wait until the 19th century when electrolysis was invented. Electro has to be pretty expensive on a monk's meager earnings.
But to answer my question earlier, I think the Tibetan Buddhists are the ones who look at her in more of a diety type of way. Whereas in the Mahayana tradition, she is thought of as a bodhisattva. I was just looking for someone to concur or "enlighten" me (every pun intended) as to where she fits in.
Suzie
Title: Re: Avalokitesvara
Post by: The Middle Way on July 03, 2007, 07:34:39 PM
Post by: The Middle Way on July 03, 2007, 07:34:39 PM
Well the terms all sort of point to a false duality, I think.
God/dess for starters.
Three robes/one bowl, how many ZAPS!
God/dess for starters.
Quote from: Suzie on July 03, 2007, 02:41:07 PMQuote from: None of the Above on July 03, 2007, 01:10:57 PM
Though, sometimes you can still see a moustache... ;)
Electro has to be pretty expensive on a monk's meager earnings.
Three robes/one bowl, how many ZAPS!