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Ok, so this may be a little personal, but I have to know that this is normal.  I'm about 5 months in on high doses of estradiol and spiro.  Lately, I've noticed that my genitals are producing some sort of clear gel when or around when I get aroused (which is starting to happen more frequently as well).  Is there any cause for concern here or is this a normal thing that happens with HRT?

Hi Abby.

That clear gel is kinda normal to have with arousal. The bigger question is why you're getting aroused more frequently after 5 months HRT? Normally it's on the decrease. Is that arousal intentional? Do you know what's triggering it?

Oh, you know, the normal triggers! Lol!  Seriously, though, I doubt it's an increase in T, as my T level was nearly nonexistent about a month and a half ago.

Sorry to say, I don't quite follow you with "normal triggers" ;). But that's ok, not sure that I want to know anyway.

If it's intentional, then I don't think there's anything to worry about. It's completely normal in that case. If it's not intentional, perhaps speak to your endo & doc as there could be something happening with hormones or prostate.

Yeah, it's all intentional.  It just surprised me because I hadn't really read anything about lubrication, though.  I'm guessing this good for eventual SRS and such?

Yup its normal. It happens allot with me and my girlfriend. She is 10 yrs on hrt and I am about a year and a half. It happens when we fool around or have sex. I have heard it compared to a sort of "pre-cum" that men get. But I don't have to cimax to have it happen. Just slightly aroused and I get wet.

To touch a little on the decrease in sex drive commeent. I have come to believe that to be innaccurate. It doesn't lower it just changes from male to female. Its not so much lower as different. Now different things turn me on than previously. It is a more emotional response now as opposed to an automatic response. I.E. I have to get into the mood rather than aways being ready. But I am finally with someone that just does if for me. It is very easy for her to get me in the mood.

I havea feeling that opinion might spark some comments...

<3 Liv

with hrt they say libido decreases but I think that's inaccurate, before hrt I didn't want to do anything, after I was on hrt I started umm getting way aroused, now since I have had srs... yea I could prob have sex everyday lol  :laugh: and about the lubrication, I get this when im turned on and it pretty much makes it where I don't have to have lube before we do anything, quite awesome I must say  ^-^

All of this is quite normal, except getting aroused more often. I suspect your testosterone level might be too high, even though it could happen for you to have higher sex drive despite lower testosterone.

Quote from: A on September 06, 2013, 01:41:04 AM
All of this is quite normal, except getting aroused more often. I suspect your testosterone level might be too high, even though it could happen for you to have higher sex drive despite lower testosterone.

so I understand and nope T is non existant for me, before everything it was actually quite high and I had no sex drive  :o so that's I don't buy the old saying that libido will drop, after srs and initial dilating , when I was allowed to have sex guess what? yup, and honestly I am much more active than ever before maybe almost to active  :P I guess i'm just wired backwards because I was never really "horny" till after hrt

Sorry for jumping into this thread as a dude, but...

Seeing that being aroused is as much a mental thing as it is physical (ie, hormones), maybe she's just feeling a lot better since she started treatment? And feeling mentally better opens the door to being happier and eventually a little more aroused? It's all just speculation, but we all know that if you are not happy with yourself, also the sexdrive tends to be low.

Yup, sexual arousal is very closely linked to body image.  It is probably just that you feel more comfortable and sexy in your own skin than before.

Pre-cum is normal.  You may not be producing sperm but there could still be some prostate functionality as all the wiring is still there.

Yes, there's that too. I was forgetting to make the difference between libido and global sex drive. In almost everyone, testosterone should boost libido, as in, the physical, uncontrollable drive to have sex for the sake of having sex. In some people however that effect will be, to varying degrees, masked by dysphoria.

Yeah, I'm quite sure it's not a testosterone up swing, as my testosterone was actually lower than the normal female range.  I'm pretty sure that it's more related to me being a bit more comfortable with myself and being less depressed. Either way, I guess this bodes well for the future of my sex life! ;-)

...now, if I could just catch someone's eye...

I believe that's normal. 

Also, not every person has a diminished libido from hrt.  I would prefer not to get into specifics, but I have found that mine has increased substantially.  Of course, it's a different sort of libido.  While it's hard to explain, I would say I say I have a strong emotional libido rather than the horrible biological libido that existed before.  That may not make any sense, but I'm trying to avoid crude language.

Given your avatar, I doubt you're going to have any trouble catching the eye of a nice hunk ( or gorgeous girl as the case may be ).

I guess everyone is a little bit different in this regard too... For me, way before coming to terms with being trans and HRT, ( for most of my life post puberty actually ), I tried to kill my horrible over-active physical-only biological sex drive... Just wasn't something I ever wanted, and I hated it with a passion because I couldn't control it, and it made relationships awkward ( without going into detail ). Never had any success in stopping it up until just recently with HRT. Now that it has stopped, I couldn't be happier :) :D.

Quote from: A on September 06, 2013, 01:41:04 AM
All of this is quite normal, except getting aroused more often. I suspect your testosterone level might be too high, even though it could happen for you to have higher sex drive despite lower testosterone.

Sorry to interject when it isn't my place to do so, but why is the quoted comment being down voted on the grounds of being offensive to one's religion?  I see nothing here that mocks anyone's faith and the comment wasn't edited.  She stated something that was fairly innocuous in the above post. 

Again, sorry to interject, but I just thought that was sort of odd that A was getting a down vote for this and wanted to point that out without reporting it (since it isn't my post and I don't know the reasoning behind it).   

Having said that, let's all try to get along as it is a support site.  :)

Quote from: learningtolive on September 06, 2013, 04:03:01 PM
Sorry to interject when it isn't my place to do so, but why is the quoted comment being down voted on the grounds of being offensive to one's religion?  I see nothing here that mocks anyone's faith and the comment wasn't edited.  She stated something that was fairly innocuous in the above post. 

Again, sorry to interject, but I just thought that was sort of odd that A was getting a down vote for this and wanted to point that out without reporting it (since it isn't my post and I don't know the reasoning behind it).   

Having said that, let's all try to get along as it is a support site.  :)

Looks retaliatory from another thread.

I have started some sort of lubrication, clear and sticky. I don't have to be erect(those are few and far between now) for it to happen. It mostly happens through breast stimulation. I'm aroused, but not erect, it starts as a warmth that spreads through my body and before I know it, I'm wet but didn't get hard. The more touching that happens makes the feeling more and more intense.

Quote from: Mr.X on September 06, 2013, 09:56:23 AM
Sorry for jumping into this thread as a dude, but...

Seeing that being aroused is as much a mental thing as it is physical (ie, hormones), maybe she's just feeling a lot better since she started treatment? And feeling mentally better opens the door to being happier and eventually a little more aroused? It's all just speculation, but we all know that if you are not happy with yourself, also the sexdrive tends to be low.

hmm I really never thought about this like that, perhaps your right, I do know that alot of getting there is and has been mental for me, but it just seemed to me and perhaps a couple other girls, (sorry for using you as an example)such as learning to live, to put this bluntly, there are a lot more time I find myself feeling like a just want to well you know. and I don't think I  purposely started thinking about sex or anything on purpose it just seemed to be the overwhelming need to get laid as before it just never happened but perhaps that's because of the dysphoria.... idk it just seemed to me that after being on hormones for a bit my sex drive picked up and after the surgery , lol 4 maybe 5 times a week now more if I could :o lol any sorry if I seemed to keep harping on this I just feel that is it not out of the range of possibility that maybe testosterone has the opposite effect on some people? maybe not the majority but some.

It honestly shouldn't, as far as I know, but I'm not anything close to a doctor. In any case, testosterone does cause some strong dysphoria (for me anyway) which I imagine can very well counteract the automatic physical libido that comes from it. Count yourself happy, because it does not in any way feel good. Well, for an MTF anyway.