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Title: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 19, 2013, 09:41:03 PM
Post by: Jamie D on September 19, 2013, 09:41:03 PM
I just got my influenza vaccine for this season: 19 Sept 2013
I have to get one, because I am a heart patient. And I go to cardio rehab with a bunch of geriatrics, so I don't want to give them the flu ... it could kill them.
So, how about you?
I have to get one, because I am a heart patient. And I go to cardio rehab with a bunch of geriatrics, so I don't want to give them the flu ... it could kill them.
So, how about you?
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 19, 2013, 09:47:13 PM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 19, 2013, 09:47:13 PM
I got my last one some time in the 90s and haven't had the flu since.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: King Malachite on September 19, 2013, 09:58:40 PM
Post by: King Malachite on September 19, 2013, 09:58:40 PM
Got my last flu shot around 12 a.m Christmas morning at Wallgreens. The guy who gave me my shot said I'm the first person to come in to get a shot on Christmas. Then we talked about video games.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Felix on September 19, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
Post by: Felix on September 19, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
Oh my god you nag.
I am overdue.
I'll re-up as soon as I get a chance. :laugh:
I am overdue.
I'll re-up as soon as I get a chance. :laugh:
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 19, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 19, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
I get mine every year Jamie.
I am getting mine the next time they give then out for free at school or when I see the bigsigns for them at the pharmacy.
I am getting mine the next time they give then out for free at school or when I see the bigsigns for them at the pharmacy.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Cindy on September 19, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
Post by: Cindy on September 19, 2013, 10:26:14 PM
If you get the strain that we have had this winter, make sure you get shot. It has taken none immunised healthy adults out for up to 4 weeks off work.
Very nasty
Very nasty
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 19, 2013, 11:31:06 PM
Post by: Jamie D on September 19, 2013, 11:31:06 PM
Quote from: Felix on September 19, 2013, 10:03:01 PM
Oh my god you nag.
I am overdue.
I'll re-up as soon as I get a chance. :laugh:
Thank you!
Quote from: LearnedHand on September 19, 2013, 10:14:02 PM
I get mine every year Jamie.
I am getting mine the next time they give then out for free at school or when I see the bigsigns for them at the pharmacy.
Learned Hand, a wise and experienced staffer, get the Jamie Gold Star Award
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Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Renee on September 20, 2013, 07:35:22 AM
Post by: Renee on September 20, 2013, 07:35:22 AM
I've never had a flu shot. The last time I actually got the full blown flu was like back in the mid eighties, since then I sometimes get a touch of it, but only the initial symptoms and the weird taste in my mouth and then I get better. I think not eating my veggies helps...
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Tossu-sama on September 20, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
Post by: Tossu-sama on September 20, 2013, 07:48:58 AM
Never had one and I've been fine. :P The last time I was actually sick (with fever and all) was in 2008 or 2009 which is kinda weird considering my lifestyle is far from overly healthy...
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Eva Marie on September 20, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
Post by: Eva Marie on September 20, 2013, 08:15:24 AM
When I was a kid I got the flu really bad and was bedridden for about two weeks. I haven't had it since then. I once started a new job and shortly thereafter the entire department was out with the flu - EVERYONE - except for me LOL.....
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: AdamMLP on September 21, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
Post by: AdamMLP on September 21, 2013, 11:02:18 AM
I've never had the flu jab or the flu. It's being offered to me for free this year with my work and I'm not sure if I'm going to take it or not. I probably will because I'm living in a close space to 209 other people so illnesses are going to going around like wildfire.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Magnus on September 25, 2013, 11:29:58 PM
Post by: Magnus on September 25, 2013, 11:29:58 PM
I'll never accept one again after my '08 experience. Three days later I came down with the nastiest one I'd ever had and I know it was because of the "live attenuated" virus in that shot. Worse, I was a UPS 'runner' at the time... twelve to thirteen hours of non-stop, flat-out running. Doing that with this particular flu literally about killed me as I was getting lung spasms and such. Really couldn't breathe over half the time but I also couldn't quit either (wanted a hub position. Didn't get it. But I didn't give up. At least I tried. Proud of that). Went back for peaks '09 and '10, didn't get the jab and didn't get the flu either. But that one there lasted clear from early December to about early February. Absolutely not the typical flu at all. So never, ever again for me.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 25, 2013, 11:37:33 PM
Post by: Jamie D on September 25, 2013, 11:37:33 PM
Boy oh boy. Has this public serviced announcement come back to bite me on the butt! LOL
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on September 25, 2013, 11:39:33 PM
Post by: Ms. OBrien CVT on September 25, 2013, 11:39:33 PM
not this year. no medical insurance.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Xhianil on September 25, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
Post by: Xhianil on September 25, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
Haven't since i was 5.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Cindy on September 26, 2013, 01:31:34 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 26, 2013, 01:31:34 AM
As an Immunologist, I shall keep my mouth shut :laugh:
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 26, 2013, 01:32:45 AM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 26, 2013, 01:32:45 AM
Quote from: Cindy on September 26, 2013, 01:31:34 AM
As an Immunologist, I shall keep my mouth shut :laugh:
Aww I was hoping to hear from a professional.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Xhianil on September 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Post by: Xhianil on September 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
Quote from: Xhianil on September 25, 2013, 11:53:33 PM
Haven't since i was 5.
And then 3 hours after posting that i threw up...
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 27, 2013, 02:01:34 AM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 27, 2013, 02:01:34 AM
Quote from: Xhianil on September 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
And then 3 hours after posting that i threw up...
Generally vomiting is not a symptom of the flu besides in young children.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 27, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
Post by: Jamie D on September 27, 2013, 02:06:14 AM
Quote from: Xhianil on September 26, 2013, 02:07:17 PM
And then 3 hours after posting that i threw up...
I hope you are feeling better, sweetie.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Cindy on September 27, 2013, 03:34:41 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 27, 2013, 03:34:41 AM
Quote from: ثنائية بين الجنسين on September 26, 2013, 01:32:45 AM
Aww I was hoping to hear from a professional.
OK.
Immunization is the single most life saving event in medical history. It is very safe.
You cannot catch the flu from the flu injection.
It takes two weeks give a week to get an immune response to the immunization, you are as vulnerable as an non-immunized person during that time.
The average incubation time to come down with flu virus from first contact is 48 hours. If you 'catch' the flu from the injection (which you can't) would be 48 hours.
A person with the flu is contagious before they show symptoms.
Some people do react to the carrier that was used in the immunization protocol. That reaction is in the warning protocols so be honest with you medic giving you the shot.
Catching the 'flu in the normal population is stochastic, the chances are massively increased if a person has it and you come in contact to them.
The facts for the last season in the USA are here:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
'flu can be fatal. Being vaccinated is important in the young healthy people like you, to protect us old biddies and children from getting infected from you. You will be sick, people whom are immune compromised may die.
There is a generalized misunderstanding that vaccination (against any disease) is about protecting the individual. It isn't it is about protecting the majority.
The only way any disease has been eradicated has been by vaccination.
There are Immunologist who suggest that people who refuse to be vaccinated against disease should not be allowed to mingle among the general population - interesting point.
It is starting to happen in the schooling system.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 27, 2013, 04:17:06 AM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 27, 2013, 04:17:06 AM
Quote from: Cindy on September 27, 2013, 03:34:41 AM
OK.
Immunization is the single most life saving event in medical history. It is very safe.
You cannot catch the flu from the flu injection.
It takes two weeks give a week to get an immune response to the immunization, you are as vulnerable as an non-immunized person during that time.
The average incubation time to come down with flu virus from first contact is 48 hours. If you 'catch' the flu from the injection (which you can't) would be 48 hours.
A person with the flu is contagious before they show symptoms.
Some people do react to the carrier that was used in the immunization protocol. That reaction is in the warning protocols so be honest with you medic giving you the shot.
Catching the 'flu in the normal population is stochastic, the chances are massively increased if a person has it and you come in contact to them.
The facts for the last season in the USA are here:
http://www.cdc.gov/flu/weekly/
'flu can be fatal. Being vaccinated is important in the young healthy people like you, to protect us old biddies and children from getting infected from you. You will be sick, people whom are immune compromised may die.
There is a generalized misunderstanding that vaccination (against any disease) is about protecting the individual. It isn't it is about protecting the majority.
The only way any disease has been eradicated has been by vaccination.
There are Immunologist who suggest that people who refuse to be vaccinated against disease should not be allowed to mingle among the general population - interesting point.
It is starting to happen in the schooling system.
I didn't think of it this way. So, vaccinated individuals are at less (or no) risk of being a carrier? I didn't know that it had any effect on that. Flu vaccines certainly aren't marketed this way, its all about helping yourself, so I figured that since I don't get the flu without it, there is no point. I think health care advertisers would be surprised by how many people aren't as selfish as marketing assumes.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Cindy on September 27, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 27, 2013, 04:50:33 AM
It is very frustrating and a reason that I am wary and weary.
Yes there have been poor vaccines, but go back to the first smallpox vaccination - that was how it was done.
Read the History of Smallpox, and read about Rabies.
There were scientists there who had brains and courage. They are still around HPV, Heliobacter. We are all Mad.
Vaccination and immunization is about saving populations. The sad and tragic part is that some will suffer or die from it.
What do you do?
If it is your child it is a crime against humanity to have killed him/her by an adverse reaction. If you are a scientist with a heart you cry and keep on going. Because one person is not humanity, no matter how cute they may be.
We, in this time point, have no recollection of what it was like prior to vaccination.
The mortality rate of children in the WW at age 5 was 50% .
Yes there have been poor vaccines, but go back to the first smallpox vaccination - that was how it was done.
Read the History of Smallpox, and read about Rabies.
There were scientists there who had brains and courage. They are still around HPV, Heliobacter. We are all Mad.
Vaccination and immunization is about saving populations. The sad and tragic part is that some will suffer or die from it.
What do you do?
If it is your child it is a crime against humanity to have killed him/her by an adverse reaction. If you are a scientist with a heart you cry and keep on going. Because one person is not humanity, no matter how cute they may be.
We, in this time point, have no recollection of what it was like prior to vaccination.
The mortality rate of children in the WW at age 5 was 50% .
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 27, 2013, 05:18:40 AM
Post by: Jamie D on September 27, 2013, 05:18:40 AM
In 1796, a cow named Blossom transferred cowpox to a milkmaid named Sarah Nelmes.
Edward Jenner, a British scientist, eager to test his hypothesis that those persons who had contracted cowpox were resistant to the deadlier smallpox, scraped pus from Sarah Nelmes's blisters, and inoculated an eight-year old boy named James Phipps, who developed a mild case of cowpox.
Six weeks later, Jenner inoculated Phipps with pus from smallpox blisters. Phipps did not develop the disease. Jenner repeated the experiment, with the same result.
Jenner published a paper, "An Inquiry into the Causes and Effects of the Variolae Vaccinae" and became known as the "Father of Immunology." Blossom's hide hangs on the wall St. George's Medical School Library.
Edward Jenner, a British scientist, eager to test his hypothesis that those persons who had contracted cowpox were resistant to the deadlier smallpox, scraped pus from Sarah Nelmes's blisters, and inoculated an eight-year old boy named James Phipps, who developed a mild case of cowpox.
Six weeks later, Jenner inoculated Phipps with pus from smallpox blisters. Phipps did not develop the disease. Jenner repeated the experiment, with the same result.
Jenner published a paper, "An Inquiry into the Causes and Effects of the Variolae Vaccinae" and became known as the "Father of Immunology." Blossom's hide hangs on the wall St. George's Medical School Library.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 06:24:02 AM
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 06:24:02 AM
I don't know about you all but in the UK we only seem to give shots to the elderly (over 65) and the most vulnerable. I'm fortunate I rarely get flu. I put it down to good diet, exercise, green tea (<3) and red wine. Natures natural remedies!
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 27, 2013, 06:48:26 AM
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 27, 2013, 06:48:26 AM
Quote from: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 06:24:02 AM
I don't know about you all but in the UK we only seem to give shots to the elderly (over 65) and the most vulnerable. I'm fortunate I rarely get flu. I put it down to good diet, exercise, green tea (<3) and red wine. Natures natural remedies!
In the US, they prioritize the elderly, babies, and otherwise vulnerable, but anyone else can get it.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 07:09:24 AM
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 07:09:24 AM
Tbh except for the elderly I don't know why anybody else would bother with a flu shot, don't the strains change every year?
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: bethany on September 27, 2013, 08:37:00 AM
Post by: bethany on September 27, 2013, 08:37:00 AM
I should be getting the flu shot at my nexr Dr's appointment next week. They give them for free.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: AdamMLP on September 27, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
Post by: AdamMLP on September 27, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
Quote from: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 06:24:02 AM
I don't know about you all but in the UK we only seem to give shots to the elderly (over 65) and the most vulnerable. I'm fortunate I rarely get flu. I put it down to good diet, exercise, green tea (<3) and red wine. Natures natural remedies!
Quote from: LearnedHand on September 27, 2013, 06:48:26 AM
In the US, they prioritize the elderly, babies, and otherwise vulnerable, but anyone else can get it.
Any one can get it here, but they prioritise vulnerable people as well, and they're the ones that are targeted and tend to go for it. Some companies (like mine) do it as part of a scheme, but they're mostly those who are coming into direct contact with vulnerable people. I suppose mine's offering it to me because we're all living in close quarters with each other and it's not cost effective to have us all going off sick with the flu.
I think maybe it's a cultural different between here and the US as more American people seem to be getting it, just like more American people seem to have therapy. Stiff upper lip and all that.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 12:59:17 PM
Quote from: AlexanderC on September 27, 2013, 12:26:22 PM
Any one can get it here, but they prioritise vulnerable people as well, and they're the ones that are targeted and tend to go for it. Some companies (like mine) do it as part of a scheme, but they're mostly those who are coming into direct contact with vulnerable people. I suppose mine's offering it to me because we're all living in close quarters with each other and it's not cost effective to have us all going off sick with the flu.
I think maybe it's a cultural different between here and the US as more American people seem to be getting it, just like more American people seem to have therapy. Stiff upper lip and all that.
Maybe it's because flu and colds are so common here in the UK it's just considered part of life, whereas in US it's like "omg teh flu!!111"?
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 27, 2013, 01:00:37 PM
Post by: DriftingCrow on September 27, 2013, 01:00:37 PM
Maybe its cultural, supposedly we're all workaholics in the USA. I go to work even if I am sick, so I get the shot so I am not puking at work. Why get sick if you don't have to?
Last year, half the office didn't get the shot, and they all got sick.and had to work anyway, meanwhile everyone who got the shot was healthy.
You do need to get it every year, but it's inexpensive and doesn't take much time to get done.
Last year, half the office didn't get the shot, and they all got sick.and had to work anyway, meanwhile everyone who got the shot was healthy.
You do need to get it every year, but it's inexpensive and doesn't take much time to get done.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
Post by: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 01:32:11 PM
Quote from: LearnedHand on September 27, 2013, 01:00:37 PM
Maybe its cultural, supposedly we're all workaholics in the USA. I go to work even if I am sick, so I get the shot so I am not puking at work. Why get sick if you don't have to?
Last year, half the office didn't get the shot, and they all got sick.and had to work anyway, meanwhile everyone who got the shot was healthy.
You do need to get it every year, but it's inexpensive and doesn't take much time to get done.
Actually, you make an excellent point. I didn't take into account how barbaric Americas work ethic is. Over here if you're sick, you get a sick day. You get sick pay. Because it's silly to make somebody go into work sick and spread their germs, and make everybody else sick. So yeah, it makes sense. 'Murica.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jamie D on September 30, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
Post by: Jamie D on September 30, 2013, 12:55:14 AM
Quote from: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 07:09:24 AM
Tbh except for the elderly I don't know why anybody else would bother with a flu shot, don't the strains change every year?
I have coronary artery disease. Influenza would be very taxing on my system.
Being young and strong may not be of help. The "Spanish Flu" pandemic if 1918-1919 disproportionately killed healthy young adults (cytokine cascade). My grandfather lost his 18-year old younger brother.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 01:25:18 AM
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 01:25:18 AM
I don't really like talking about it much but I do have a respiratory condition and a variety of other physical issues that make everyday life rather painful and difficult
If I come down sick and die that just means I won't have to deal with the pain or put up with anyone's B.S. anymore
I'll probably get a flu shot this week anyway though
If I come down sick and die that just means I won't have to deal with the pain or put up with anyone's B.S. anymore
I'll probably get a flu shot this week anyway though
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Samantha Stone on September 30, 2013, 04:29:24 AM
Post by: Samantha Stone on September 30, 2013, 04:29:24 AM
I got my flu shot at the VA last week along with a pneumonia booster last week. Having been in the hospital with pneumonia last winter for four days, I am a big proponent on getting the flu shot.
Samantha
Samantha
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Cindy on September 30, 2013, 05:33:22 AM
Post by: Cindy on September 30, 2013, 05:33:22 AM
Quote from: Samantha.Stone on September 30, 2013, 04:29:24 AM
I got my flu shot at the VA last week along with a pneumonia booster last week. Having been in the hospital with pneumonia last winter for four days, I am a big proponent on getting the flu shot.
Samantha
Good girl!
To be honest there is nothing like experience, but vaccination tries to remove that.
Does anyone want to experience Smallpox?
You can't it has been eradicated by vaccination.
It works.
Please use it.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 05:43:15 PM
Got my shot at the pharmacy today when I went to pick up my inhaler and such, it was practically painless, hardly felt a thing
My main concern was not so much for myself but because I don't want to be a carrier and risk infecting others
(There are several elderly folks where I live)
My main concern was not so much for myself but because I don't want to be a carrier and risk infecting others
(There are several elderly folks where I live)
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Shantel on September 30, 2013, 06:19:13 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 30, 2013, 06:19:13 PM
Last time I got a flu shot I had what appeared to be a severe asthma attack but I don't have asthma, it turns out that I've developed an allergy to eggs and flu serums are egg based. Guess I'll take my chances.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
Post by: V M on September 30, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
One of the questions on the questionnaire they had me fill out was if I was allergic to eggs, not sure what they do if someone is allergic
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Devlyn on September 30, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Post by: Devlyn on September 30, 2013, 07:37:33 PM
Quote from: V M on September 30, 2013, 07:32:06 PM
One of the questions on the questionnaire they had me fill out was if I was allergic to eggs, not sure what they do if someone is allergic
You only get bacon and home fries! <running away>
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2013, 08:21:49 PM
After 28 years as a medic and all I was exposed to, I'm afraid the flu shot would hang on to the syringe trying to stay OUT of me. :)
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Shantel on September 30, 2013, 08:27:52 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 30, 2013, 08:27:52 PM
Quote from: Dreams2014 on September 27, 2013, 07:09:24 AM
Tbh except for the elderly I don't know why anybody else would bother with a flu shot, don't the strains change every year?
Yeah, there's a lot of hype involved I'm sure. Meanwhile the human immune system never gets a chance to build up any antibodies of it's own which makes the whole thing it a bit suspect although we don't want to see some kind of pandemic like Spanish flu again ever.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 30, 2013, 10:18:39 PM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on September 30, 2013, 10:18:39 PM
From the CDC:
Most, but not all, types of flu vaccine contain small amount of egg
Most, but not all, types of flu vaccine contain small amount of egg
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: Jessica Merriman on October 01, 2013, 04:33:57 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on October 01, 2013, 04:33:57 AM
That's because they use eggs to actually grow the virus in. With the proteins and all it is the perfect incubator.
Title: Re: Got your flu shot yet??
Post by: bethany on October 02, 2013, 05:03:54 AM
Post by: bethany on October 02, 2013, 05:03:54 AM
Living in a nursing home, I see that colds and other sicknesses spread like wildfire here. I got the flu shot more because I would hate to be the one who starts to spread it around to the population here.