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Title: A waste
Post by: Jace on September 22, 2013, 11:56:07 PM
Sometimes I almost feel like I'm wasting the body I was given. I'm fairly attractive I think. I have an hourglass figure, nice boobs, skinny, etc. But I don't really care for it and some of it I wish was gone. I'm the type of person that if I complain about how I look everyone sends me death glares and tells me to shut up, that I have no right to complain. It's stupid to think of like this, but I see so many girls wish that they had a body like mine and I just want to be like please take it.

Title: Re: A waste
Post by: A on September 23, 2013, 01:30:54 AM
Yeah, it's a waste, in a way, but it's not your fault. It's a waste that a good female body was given to a guy. But once that is done, you can't call transitioning a waste of it. That's something you have no responsibility or power on. It's not a waste that YOU created. So yeah, it sort of sucks in a way, maybe, but don't fuss over it. The day your gender identity was formed as male (and most scientists are going to say, I believe, that it happened before your birth), the waste was decided, and certainly not by you.

So just do your business. As far as you're concerned, it's not a waste, because it's not a good thing to you. I'd compare it to "wasting" a good, awesome, expensive almond cake when you're allergic to almonds. Hell, if you eat it, you're the one who'll be wasted.

Also, as words of encouragement... While the body you have right now might maybe cause you issues with passability in the beginning, I'll guarantee you that the kind of body you have, when all is said and done, has the highest chances to make you a very attractive guy. For real. I'm not just telling you this to pat you on the shoulder. I've seen a few examples, and to be short, they're super hot.
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Kreuzfidel on September 23, 2013, 02:52:47 AM
Yeah, my family used to make comments to me about what a "beautiful womanly figure" I had - and it made me sick, yet they continued to do it.  I don't know - I don't really see it as a waste.
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: mm on September 23, 2013, 10:53:56 AM
What I hate, is my family saying what a waste of not using your working internal parts, ovaries, uterus, etc. Many women in my family have problems getting pregnant and my parts seems to be working perfectly. I would gladly give them to whoever wanted them.
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: aleon515 on September 23, 2013, 03:43:12 PM
Well it's not like it is your doing that you had the body you had. I don't see it as a "waste". It would only be a waste if you worked hard for it and so on (and if you did well then you didn't know you weren't female at the time you worked hard for it).

--Jay
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Magnus on September 23, 2013, 04:41:50 PM
I completely agree with A.

What I wonder is why some people assume physical (hell, even inner) beauty disappears simply over a subtraction or addition of a sex hormone? They don't and they can't change our genes, which is precisely where that particular facet is determined, for better or worse. You're still going to be as beautiful as you are but in a different way. Instead of pretty, you'll be handsome.

I mean seriously, check out Balian Buschbaum before and after. I would hardly call those results a waste. I'd rather wager even most cisguys that can't begin to lay a finger on that physical prowess, feel cheated. LOL.

Really there is no reason to feel bad or otherwise about this. That is in fact entirely not unlike feeling guilty because you can walk and someone else can't. It's certainly unfortunate but it's not your personal fault, is it? No. This here is actually on par with that and it really shouldn't be.

I'm sure all of those jealous girls will find a way to get over it. If not, middle age fairly much ruins it for one and all anyway (or so I have it on good authority from all of my female relatives of the same).
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Jace on September 23, 2013, 06:14:10 PM
Thanks everybody. Logically I know it makes no sense for me to think of it like that, it's just getting my emotional part to understand that.

I can't wait to start T, whenever that will actually be, and see how I turn out on it. I already have a very defined bone structure(facially and bodywise) so I'm praying that it gets even more defined and masculine as I still have some softness to myself.

Balian Buschbaum is so attractive it's crazy.
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Jack_M on September 24, 2013, 12:24:52 AM
A waste?  Hell no!  Why?  It's a curse starting out, sure, but damn do us FTMs stay young looking for far longer!  There's 50 year old FTMs who can pass for being in their 30s, easy! 

Whenever people refer to it, or imply it's a waste I just think about men VS women aging and it doesn't seem like such a waste.  FTM guys age phenomenally well in general and then even when we start to look older, we get that sexy, older, Clooney-esque look.

Waste?  I think not!  More of a gain!

(Just in case: this is absolutely not a reason to transition and I'm not trying to imply it as such, just using it as a twist on the idea that transitioning is a waste by pointing out an insanely awesome benefit ;))
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: A on September 24, 2013, 01:21:51 AM
Aawh, you were starting to convince me to have an FTM transition.

...Wait, what?
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Taka on September 24, 2013, 07:30:35 AM
it's a waste to send handsome well functioning young men to war as well. many countries still do that...

anyway, what's the point in having a beautiful well functioning body if you can't use it? if it only holds you back? ruins your future and messes with your mind? it's like keeping a gold necklace when you can't even afford food on your table, just because the necklace is pretty. and even if you got it from your parents, most parents would probably rather you used it for food than die wearing it. interesting how most people won't see the analogy to someone's body. it's not like we're born to be someone's eye candy, or are we...?
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: aleon515 on September 24, 2013, 01:45:49 PM
Quote from: Jack_M on September 24, 2013, 12:24:52 AM
A waste?  Hell no!  Why?  It's a curse starting out, sure, but damn do us FTMs stay young looking for far longer!  There's 50 year old FTMs who can pass for being in their 30s, easy! 

Whenever people refer to it, or imply it's a waste I just think about men VS women aging and it doesn't seem like such a waste.  FTM guys age phenomenally well in general and then even when we start to look older, we get that sexy, older, Clooney-esque look.



Oh yeah, preach it brother. LOL  :)


--Jay
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: spacerace on September 24, 2013, 04:23:54 PM
I saw this video last week made by a couple of trans guys, and it is related to this topic. A good watch:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_vIX70QOJo
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: yaka on September 24, 2013, 06:32:22 PM
I get so turned off by the objectification of my body from (straight) guys. On top of that, being viewed as exotic, when if I looked like a man, I would appear threatening. You just have to wonder what the purpose of having something beautiful if you can't appreciate it. I like Taka's analogy.

I think if women can get boob jobs because they are dissatisfied with the way their body looks (and with little objection from others), you have the right to change yours to match the body you desire. It's your body, you're the one living with it!
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Natkat on September 24, 2013, 08:37:44 PM
hmm yeah I guess its a waste but its also kinda a waste how I always straight my hair and colour it with bad stuff ::), when I have "pretty curls" <- I dont like curls.

or when I oder a pizza but cant eat the last splice :'( (even when it almost never happent)
Title: Re: A waste
Post by: Sephirah on September 24, 2013, 08:57:53 PM
I tend to believe that what's being wasted is the part of yourself which has to focus on the body that you don't want. The part of you which is forced inwards every time dysphoria hits. The part of you which feels bad, feels isolated, feels like you don't belong, like no one would understand even if you held a big sign in their face with bullet points. Written in fluorescent green. In capital letters.

I think that part of yourself is more important than other people's envy, other people projecting their desires onto you, and making you feel guilty. That part of you is the part which endures, no matter what your body looks like. Your body is not being wasted, it's being modified in order that you can live your life and be everything you can be. Not provide eye candy or ensure the continuation of the species.

Your body is, and always will be your body. The only difference is that in the end it will contain a mind, psyche, call it what you want, which is able to finally be instead of wishing it could be, and constantly absorbed by that process.

I think you will be far more captivating when you can be who you want to be and not who everyone else thinks you should be. And that will last when physical appearance succumbs to the ravages of time.