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Last fresh sale date, Expires On, Sell-By, Use-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before....

Everything has one of these. Are they useful? Not at all! We need real world information like: Don't eat after July 21st, Poisonous after August 10th, or Will turn to cottage cheese on September 2nd.

I agree.  I often eat "expired" food.  As long as its not something that I know is poisonous if expired, its not green (unless its supposed to be) and it tastes good, its good enough for me.  I ate yogurt that has been expired for a month today and it tasted just fine.

No way. Those dates are gospel. If it says September 23, then on September 24 it becomes an offering to the gods via the circular receptacle under my counter. You fool around with those dates and you are tempting fate.

Don't say you haven't been warned.

The only one to worry about is the expires on warning.  Best before is just that, best before, meaning after it's not the best, not deadly.  A correction to my previous post: The yogurt's best before date was over a month ago, there was no expiry date listed.

I'm sure my fellow old fogeys here will remember what we used to do before expiry dates were printed on food: we'd open the packet & give it a sniff, and if it smelled OK we'd eat the product. That worked just fine!

I work with several retailers, so I agree with Anon on the difference between 'best before' and 'use by'. 'Best before' is just to inform you that your food will slowly start to go stale after that date but should still be safe to eat. 'Use by' is the serious one, because it means that the food will become unsafe to eat after that date. But manufacturers tend to be conservative with their dates, so you can usually eat a 'Use by' item the day after it has expired if it looks & smells OK, but you shouldn't risk stretching it out much longer than that.

I have a confession to make: I tend to buy a lot of my food on its expiry date, because our supermarkets tend to discount the price to get rid of it. I then either eat it that day or put it straight into the freezer to eat it at a later date. I've had some absolutely fantastic food this way that I would never buy otherwise due to it being ridiculously overpriced.

When eating fresh food, I will judge for myself whether to honour the expiry date. If it's something that could cause food poisoning (such as salmon or chicken) I won't touch it after that date. But if it's vegetables, fruit, yoghurt or eggs I'll use them up to several weeks past their date, provided they still look & smell ok.

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"Last fresh sale date, Expires On, Sell-By, Use-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before....

Everything has one of these. Are they useful?"
Unquote.

Only when applied to men.

I never eat food on or beyond the dates they list. Its a thing with me.

In the bin if it's expiry date has passed

Last fresh sale date,  Sell-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before are indeed that not that the produckt is spoiled after that date. Some items are spolied even before the hit the shelf ! If its cooled properly no sweat all is perfect.
If you leave it in the hot car its spoiled even if its date is over three days lol.Trust your nose, taste and eyes.
Green or moldy beef is a NO NO even if it say best before next week >:-)

It depends on how it looks or smells.  Otherwise I see them a a suggestion.

That wasn't a chicken, it was a Cornish gamey hen!

When I buy boneless chicken breasts, I always dig for the best date and then separate them, trim them, then freeze the little suckers individually when I get home. I'm paranoid about raw chicken, I wouldn't even eat it for a long time after I saw how they did them at the poultry plants.

yogurt i almost always eat after the expiration date. everything i follow strictly

I just play it by ear...if it looks ok, smells ok, and doesn't raise any questions...I'll eat it. If it's meat, I cook it until it's dead.

But...when in doubt, throw it out. Eggspecially.

I've eaten uncooked chicken tenders and have willingly eaten out of our trash can so expiration dates don't bother me too often.

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 24, 2013, 06:54:21 PM
I just play it by ear...if it looks ok, smells ok, and doesn't raise any questions...I'll eat it. If it's meat, I cook it until it's dead.

But...when in doubt, throw it out. Eggspecially.

I should have named the topic "Eggspiration dates, who cares?"   :laugh:

Can we have your avatar back, please? I miss you.  Hugs, Devlyn

During the International Geophysical Year project of 1957-1958, explorers in Antarctica were eating supplies from the food depots of the Robert Falcon Scott exploration of 1911-1912.

I guess they didn't have dates on those supplies!  LOL

Quote from a branded cheese product on a well known grocery website:

This cheese is matured for around 12 months giving it a sharp, tangy taste.

Further down said page:

Keep refrigerated. Once opened best consumed with 3 days.

...

Go figure.

Quote from: Sephirah on September 24, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from a branded cheese product on a well known grocery website:

This cheese is matured for around 12 months giving it a sharp, tangy taste.

Further down said page:

Keep refrigerated. Once opened best consumed with 3 days.

...

Go figure.

Two words for you: Weenie Tots.

Quote from: Sephirah on September 24, 2013, 07:28:01 PM
Quote from a branded cheese product on a well known grocery website:

This cheese is matured for around 12 months giving it a sharp, tangy taste.

Further down said page:

Keep refrigerated. Once opened best consumed with 3 days.

...

Go figure.

Similar to the 8 year old cheddar I bought once.  The cheese is aged in an air-free environment, once you expose the cheese to air, it allows mold to grow.  Although all you have to do is cut off the mold and the rest of the cheese will be fine.

Quote from: ثنائية بين الجنسين on September 24, 2013, 07:35:56 PM
The cheese is aged in an air-free environment, once you expose the cheese to air, it allows mold to grow.  Although all you have to do is cut off the mold and the rest of the cheese will be fine.

Or enjoy the free Stilton. :)

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on September 24, 2013, 07:00:10 PM
I should have named the topic "Eggspiration dates, who cares?"   :laugh:

Can we have your avatar back, please? I miss you.  Hugs, Devlyn

Feel free to borrow it.  :)

I remove my avatar when I'm not planning on being on the board for awhile...although "awhile" usuallly is only a couple of days. But, I am back.  :D

Big hug! There's our girl!

On a semi-related note: why do we now have to store ketchup in the refrigerator? We never used to when I was a kid. Are the germs more resilient these days?

This thread reminds me of the somewhat NSFW 'Steve, Don't Eat It!' blog from a couple of years ago, where Steve eats all sorts of gross things and then tells you what they're like (unsurprisingly, there is a bit of grown-up language in his descriptions). He ate 14-year-old cereal (http://www.thesneeze.com/2004/steve-dont-eat-it----1991-urkel-os.php) (that's right, cereal that was 14 years past its use-by date), and cuitlacoche (http://www.thesneeze.com/2005/steve-dont-eat-it-vol-7.php) (a Mexican product involving fungus-infected corn!)... but my favourite was his description of eating natto (http://www.thesneeze.com/2004/steve-dont-eat-it-vol-6.php) (a Japanese fermented soybean product).

One of the theories for the massive increase in asthma and autoimmune disease in children is the hygiene hypothesis.

We do not allow our kids to be exposed to 'germs' so their immune response develops in a biased manner.

There is good evidence that this hypothesis has some legs.

I sort of treat my body as a means to communicate to my bugs!

OK I don't want food poisoning but I do need good and bad bacteria to be present in order to be healthy.

And children need to get down and dirty and eat earthworms, dirt and all of the usual stuff that kids do. It is what allows their immune response to develop.

I've also noticed that today kids seem to grow in a sterile bubble of... well, bubble wrap. At this rate, they'll get fatally ill from just a basic flu virus because they haven't build a proper immunity system. Not to talk about chicken pox that is better if you get it as a child as opposed to being an adult...
I guess this is some way of dealing with the inevitable overpopulation problem...?

But anyway.
If it doesn't look or smell funny, I eat/drink it.
My immune system's crazy anyhow. My flu consists of sneezing a couple times and my upset stomach gets better by letting out a big fart.

Quote from: Tossu-sama on September 25, 2013, 01:17:23 PM
I've also noticed that today kids seem to grow in a sterile bubble of... well, bubble wrap. At this rate, they'll get fatally ill from just a basic flu virus because they haven't build a proper immunity system. Not to talk about chicken pox that is better if you get it as a child as opposed to being an adult...
I guess this is some way of dealing with the inevitable overpopulation problem...?

But anyway.
If it doesn't look or smell funny, I eat/drink it.
My immune system's crazy anyhow. My flu consists of sneezing a couple times and my upset stomach gets better by letting out a big fart.

This is evolution at work. An organism develops a behavior because it's beneficial, and if it is...the organism thrives. Once the behavior becomes non-beneficial, the organism begins to die out.

The problem with evolution is that we do not have a long enough life span to really see the effects...because we can mask it with anti-biotics, bug sprays, and (in some cases) wealth.

I think humanity will be a LOT different in 1,000 years. Perhaps we are reaching our own, species-expiration date? (Most pre-human variants are extinct)

Quote from: Beth Andrea on September 25, 2013, 01:32:59 PM
I think humanity will be a LOT different in 1,000 years. Perhaps we are reaching our own, species-expiration date? (Most pre-human variants are extinct)

There's an idea, lol. I'm almost convinced that in 1000 years, humans will be little more than fourteen eyes to see everything while looking at a smartphone, and two giant thumbs to text with. ;D

Quote from: Sephirah on September 25, 2013, 02:09:09 PM
There's an idea, lol. I'm almost convinced that in 1000 years, humans will be little more than fourteen eyes to see everything while looking at a smartphone, and two giant thumbs to text with. ;D

Unless humanity destroys the smartphones by making them too fragile to thrive. |D My fiancé's fancy smartphone apparently decided to kick the bucket today and she had it only for couple months.
Yet another doomed species...

I wouldn't honestly be surprised if humankind managed to destroy itself in the next 1000 years.
...Wow, that sounded very SnK-ish.

Quote from: Tossu-sama on September 25, 2013, 02:18:26 PM
Unless humanity destroys the smartphones by making them too fragile to thrive. |D My fiancé's fancy smartphone apparently decided to kick the bucket today and she had it only for couple months.
Yet another doomed species...

Aha, that must mean there's a new model being brought out... which costs more, BUT can make coffee just the way you like it. Or.. um... has a different coloured "someone please tell me what this does" button. Inbuilt obsolescence... not that I'm cynical or anything. My mobile phone is something that triceratops would have used to co-ordinate being horny on a weekend, so yeah. ;D

Quote from: Cindy on September 25, 2013, 04:18:51 AM
One of the theories for the massive increase in asthma and autoimmune disease in children is the hygiene hypothesis.

We do not allow our kids to be exposed to 'germs' so their immune response develops in a biased manner.

There is good evidence that this hypothesis has some legs.

I sort of treat my body as a means to communicate to my bugs!

OK I don't want food poisoning but I do need good and bad bacteria to be present in order to be healthy.

And children need to get down and dirty and eat earthworms, dirt and all of the usual stuff that kids do. It is what allows their immune response to develop.

Bon appetit!

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Oh you can still eat this! And you will definitely not get botulism or anything else nasty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJWoFReY1j0

Quote from: Sephirah on September 25, 2013, 02:29:40 PM
Aha, that must mean there's a new model being brought out... which costs more, BUT can make coffee just the way you like it. Or.. um... has a different coloured "someone please tell me what this does" button. Inbuilt obsolescence... not that I'm cynical or anything. My mobile phone is something that triceratops would have used to co-ordinate being horny on a weekend, so yeah. ;D

I told my fiancé she should've gotten Nokia's 3310! Now there's a phone that will survive a nuclear apocalypse for sure!
...For some reason I think it would even survive a damn black hole.

Quote from: ZootAllures/BlackNapkins! on September 25, 2013, 03:06:34 PM
Oh you can still eat this! And you will definitely not get botulism or anything else nasty.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJWoFReY1j0

I'd eat the spaghetti hoops.  And maybe the bar.  Guess that makes me "completely f***ing mental"

Quote from: Tossu-sama on September 25, 2013, 10:44:27 PM
I told my fiancé she should've gotten Nokia's 3310! Now there's a phone that will survive a nuclear apocalypse for sure!
...For some reason I think it would even survive a damn black hole.

LOL... I had one of those. The only phone that would break a wall if they made contact.

Quote from: Sephirah on September 25, 2013, 10:48:23 PM
LOL... I had one of those. The only phone that would break a wall if they made contact.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fstatic.fjcdn.com%2Fpictures%2FDropped%2Bmy%2Bphone.%2BSorry%2Bif%2Bthis%2Bis%2Ba%2Brepost%2BI_7eafdb_4693187.jpg&hash=1840426d74a96cc01f12fb6469811485f0ecbb4b)

That's all I have. <slithers off into the darkness>

Quote from: FTMDiaries on September 25, 2013, 04:09:19 AM
On a semi-related note: why do we now have to store ketchup in the refrigerator? We never used to when I was a kid. Are the germs more resilient these days?

This thread reminds me of the somewhat NSFW 'Steve, Don't Eat It!' blog from a couple of years ago, where Steve eats all sorts of gross things and then tells you what they're like (unsurprisingly, there is a bit of grown-up language in his descriptions). He ate 14-year-old cereal (http://www.thesneeze.com/2004/steve-dont-eat-it----1991-urkel-os.php) (that's right, cereal that was 14 years past its use-by date), and cuitlacoche (http://www.thesneeze.com/2005/steve-dont-eat-it-vol-7.php) (a Mexican product involving fungus-infected corn!)... but my favourite was his description of eating natto (http://www.thesneeze.com/2004/steve-dont-eat-it-vol-6.php) (a Japanese fermented soybean product).

Ketchup is very acidic and does not spoil easily.  I used to buy the big squeeze bottles for my family.  I don't think it would have lasted long enough to spoil.

Huitlacoche/Cuitlacoche is know in English as "corn smut".  It is a fungus and is prized as a delicacy.

And I must thank you for the "Natto" blog link.  I was laughing so hard while reading it, I was tearing up and snorting.

Quote from: Cindy on September 24, 2013, 04:19:07 AM
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"Last fresh sale date, Expires On, Sell-By, Use-By, Best if Used By, Best By, Best Before....

Everything has one of these. Are they useful?"
Unquote.

Only when applied to men.

Well it is true that we never expire, we do tend to require a bit of TLC nearer the end.

Food Expired? Here's What's Still OK to Chow Down On (http://shine.yahoo.com/healthy-living/expired-food-just-nose-190200241.html)

In my own refrigerator, a sealed glass jar of salsa reads "best by April 24, 2014." What exactly happens on April 25? When it comes to eating so-called expired food, [food expert Dana] Gunders and other experts say you can indeed consume many foods past their expiration dates. Just use your eyes, nose, and a healthy serving of common sense.

Read the entire article at the link!

I'm 'better safe than sorry'. If I can't tell, if it is that questionable (e.g. slimy lunch meat). It goes in the trash. On the other hand if it is canned or vacuum sealed, I always take a 'chance' because there really is no 'chance' to be taken. Its good basically forever until or unless air gets in there somehow. It will just be a little soggy. I have some tuna packs from "best by 2011" that I plan to eat well into the future if something untoward happens. Yep, I'm a prepper... to the extent I realistically can be.

Oh and, sometimes I do find things have actually expired before their printed dates. So it is always a good idea to really check first. Spoiled milk has to be the worst to encounter if you didn't at least give it the good ole sniff-test. Blegh!