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maybe total self-sufficiency; the idea that you don't need anyone else, ever?  what else cannot be forgiven iyo?

Parents not caring at all about their children/not even noticing when their teen is starving to death

Never transitioning.

(for me)

~Kate~

Hmmmm...this is a hard question for me.  Deep inside I know that everything needs to be forgiven if you expect forgiveness yourself.  However, there are a few things that I could never forgive (i.e, child abuse, incest, rape, animal cruelty, etc)

These are the four things that I could never forget nor forgive.  Needless to say, these are the four things which make my blood boil to the point of becoming "Hannibal Lecter". 

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The abuse of another living being is unforgivable.  Whether it is the abuse of an animal, a child, a spouse...  It does not matter.  Abuse is NOT forgivable.

Harming a cat. or a dog. or any animal.

I have to say that there is nothing that cannot be forgiven.

I actually feel a little like a loser because I have nothing to offer up. However, by not forgiving, one cannot move forward.  The most terrible and atrocious acts can be given life much longer than they would otherwise have by keeping them alive with feelings of hate, despair, vengeance and the like. It is important to move forward because it is the only way that repair and healing will occur.

There are some things which I can not forgive.  Premeditated and aggravated murder are at the top of that list.  Rather than forgiveness, I have learned to accept that these heinous things happen from time to time and that I must deal with them in the most humane way that I can.  I can not hold hate within for the rest of my life.

Cindi

People not caring about children in general. I see children as our future and I can't understand anyone who is too overwhelmed with their own ego to notice what the child needs. It may include simple things like parenting, but I personally have suffered a lot from teachers who didn't care what happened in their class.

I'm beginning to believe that my starting the thread on vengeance should not be forgiven.  Gahoygle.  :o

Quote from: Katia on June 29, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
maybe total self-sufficiency; the idea that you don't need anyone else, ever?  what else cannot be forgiven iyo?

And how is it perceived that 'total self-sufficiency' is unforgivable and by what standard of measurement?

Unforgivable by whom?

If you are ascribing to the notion of subjective morality as being one's only 'moral compass', the assertion is absurd.

Quote from: Katia on June 29, 2007, 06:37:26 PM
maybe total self-sufficiency; the idea that you don't need anyone else, ever?  what else cannot be forgiven iyo?

Interesting question. As the old adage goes, no person is an island. But not forgiving someone is personal and totally varies with the person and situation. While I may be publically polite to everyone there are some people I will never stay in the same room with let alone speak to outside of having to because of some past experience with them. And yes, it does last a lifetime, or at least mine. And I'm sure there are some people who feel the same about me.

Ultimately, forgiveness is a selfish act. When we forgive we free ourselves from the bonds of anger and resentment that consume us and not the person we are angry at. They don't feel our anger, only we do. So when we forgive, we also shed having these angry thoughts. Let go of all that anger and life gets pretty nice. So I see forgiveness as something I do for myself, not for others. In this way, nothing is unforgivable.

In practicality, there are those who do not wish to be forgiven and will continue to harm us if we expose ourselves to them. Some may say that avoiding someone is not full forgiveness, it's holding a grudge. It is however a matter of opinion. I don't see many members of my family because they are toxic. I know they will harm me again if I let them into my life. I have forgiven them for past infractions, but I am not really interested in subjecting myself to more. To many this is not true forgiveness. Whatever it is, it is how I feel best. I don't hold any anger towards them, I don't dwell on them anymore and I don't allow them to harm me anymore. That is what works best for me.

I don't hate anyone or have any known enemies and to the best of my knowledge no one hates me or considers me their enemy. That is how I like it.

Love always,
Elizabeth

The only thing I find unforgivable is rape.  Murder is not as bad in my eyes in most cases.

Charlotte

The sexual, physical and mental abuse to children

Quote from: Pia on July 02, 2007, 01:13:21 AM
The sexual, physical and mental abuse to children

and women.

somebody hurtin people I love.  aint forgivin that!

It depends on who is doing the forgiving. 

Quote from: Hidrix on July 04, 2007, 03:47:20 AM
somebody hurtin people I love.  aint forgivin that!

Me either.   :-*  ;D

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Our troops being killed for nothing, in the Middle East.

Abuse of the trust of a member of this site by another member...

Quote from: Susan on July 17, 2007, 11:22:19 PM
Abuse of the trust of a member of this site by another member...

Yes, that would be bad...Do you wish to elaborate, hypothetically?

I would like to think that all things can be forgiven but some things are just less forgivable than others such as:

Rape

Animal cruelty especially to dogs and cats

Trolling support sites

Taking advantage of those who can't help themselves

Stealing

Murder if not in self-defense

Biological warfare

Abusing the welfare system

Vandalism

In some cases lying depending on the situation