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My electrolysis mentiond that some of her clients had visited a nearby dentist for a complete numbing of certain areas of their face before electro treatment.

I just wonder if others have done this?

I may try it so she can move full speed with removal & I will not have any pain at all. It seems to be a smart move.

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I only needed it when they did the upper lip. It workd super well. It a quite few dollars more but worth it.

Thanks, I'm going to get this scheduled so she can go fast & not wait on me.

Interesting.

I just have mine hit me over the skull with a hammer repeatedly until I pass out.

Seriously, though I have the benzo/lido/tetra -caine cream and it barely makes it tolerable.  And that's only the face I'm talking about.  I'm going to need something way better for downstairs, as it's almost unbearable there.

I love the people who dismiss this all as a "sinful lifestyle choice".  *facepalm*

Yea, I've heard the stories about downstairs. I'm not ready to think about that yet. Just want my face complete, asap.

THX, GF

Dental blocker? Sure :). For the first few upper lip sessions anyway. For the rest I didn't bother. It hurts, but it's not too extreme.

Got a jab from a Dentist for clearing my top lip the first time.  Not very expensive and he seemed quite amused by the reason!  Only got 3/4 through that time and went back to finish 3 days later with no pain relief at all.  Not sure how I managed that!  After that, tried Emla but since its water-based, it seemed to increase the reaction of my skin.  Moved to a lignocaine/tetracaine cream after that which really only takes the edge off the pain.  Much crying along the way.

Very thankful I am almost done. 

Thanks to all. I'm going to schedule a visit to this dentist then my electro lady for her to go full speed on my upper lip. Last session I almost cried for sure. Other parts of the face were kind of easy. I had numerous laser treatments however this is my first electro. The lady is fast & professional & I do not want to slow her down with crying.

One question if I can. How long did it take for the area to become numb & ready for electro???
My dentist will do this I'm sure & her office is 30 minutes from the electro's salon. This might work out just right.

Used to get a shot from the dentist to clear my top lip,usually 30 to 45 minutes before electrolysis.

Thank you to all for help. Maybe I finally have a good plan for this electrolysis treatment stage.

Just plan what you'll do when the blocker wears off... The blocker only lasts for about 2.5 hours according to my dentist... and they were spot on for me. Given my dentist is also about 30 mins from my electrologist, that only gives me 2 hours at best. Each time I opted for a full clear of the upper lip, which took ~3-4 hours... Rather than leave it half done and trying to fit into everyone's schedules. Just means I cried a bit for the last hour or two.

I have a bunch of vicodin left over from when i separated my shoulder....my plans for electrolysis, if its needed, is to go in high as a satellite and hopefully not feel anything lol.

I have herd from others that a vicodin an hour before makes the face manageable, but no one said if it helps any when they visit Mexico to do the clearings down there.

Ummm...leave the pills in the medicine cabinet for when you actually NEED them and learn to relax into the pain. It will hurt (a little bit, less than a wasp sting) for about 5 minutes. After that the endorphins will kick in. Happy days.

Rosie.

Vicodin is useless for sudden acute pains like electro.  Save it for dull aches.

Quote from: SammyRose on November 12, 2013, 01:17:00 PM
Just plan what you'll do when the blocker wears off... The blocker only lasts for about 2.5 hours according to my dentist... and they were spot on for me. Given my dentist is also about 30 mins from my electrologist, that only gives me 2 hours at best. Each time I opted for a full clear of the upper lip, which took ~3-4 hours... Rather than leave it half done and trying to fit into everyone's schedules. Just means I cried a bit for the last hour or two.

Sammy Rose, Thank you so much for your time & advise. I'm much better equipped on how to smartly handle this stage. 

Well a 2 hour session for tomorrow morning, using some numbing cream 45 minutes in advance so she can start asap. Cream/lotion is made in Denmark & suppose to be the strongest cream available.

Hopeful to clean up more area, it's an ugly face right now for sure with 5 days of hair growth as she needed.

Upper lip, we'll try & see if a dental block is needed? If so I'll schedule that for next week.

This hair has to go away no matter what!!!

Before I started electrolysis i was prepared for pain and was suprise that I was able to endure it easily - the repitition of pain at a tolerable level is a facinanting experience. Yes, mabe its the endorphins that kicked in. I go twice a week for an hour and its been a long haul but the result has been very good. Go for it - and good luck

Thanks.

For now we schedule a 2 hour session every Saturday morning. The salon is quiet & my tech woman Sarah has no other appointments so she can concentrate on my face. We'll see how the pain goes on my upper lip area today, maybe I can tolerate it. If not I will get a block from my dentist & reschedule a visit for a mid week day.

I'm excited & I will be so glad to finally have a clean nice face.

EMLA needs to have contact for 1 hour for optimal effect, preferably with a covering to stop it from drying out.

Most dental anaesthesia will last about 3 hours so long as each injection is a full carpule, the most commonly one used being lignocaine.  If the dentist has bupivicaine, that can provide up to 20 hours, but does have some risks.

Thank you from the bottom of heart to all girl friends that have helped. Electrolysis is going well & soon within a few months I will have a nice clean face & never never have to shave any facial again. Oh happy day!

We are going to use small injections on lidocaine on the more sensitive areas. My electrolysis lady is experienced & comfotable with doing this for me. It is the same lidocaine as dentist use.

Thank you all again.

shameless notes: "block" refers to an area of numbing effect like on an entire finger (digital block) or at the spinal level (like waist on down; epidural) as opposed to local anesthesia like before starting an IV line if the practitioner is nice.

Ibuprofen a hour before electro will reduce inflammation afterwards and having hydrated skin also reduces the downtime.

Thanks again to all.

I have hated this hair for as long as I can remember. I had laser treatments in my 20's however I did not have all hair removed. I always shaved in the shower to just remove most of it to just get by when having to live & work in the male role. This is the first time in my life that I can realize that soon I will have a nice clean normal face. So I'm very excited & relieved. Still a long way to go however I think with this nice very experienced electrolysis woman we can clean off everything. I'm lucky to find her. She in determined for me to have a very nice normal feminine face.

My third visit is for Saturday, 2-3 hour session. We have not really cleaned up much of my face. I sure hope she can remove more??? We are still using cream to numb areas however it seems she has OK from local dentist for a block anytime I want ot need it, $25, such a deal. I'll find out Saturday. I'll need a block for my upper lip that's for sure.

Thanks, girl friends, wish me luck, it's getting frustrating, so slow.

Slow is right!  I was very tempted to reply when you said "within a few months" but decided against it.

It will end up taking me over a year by the time it's gone... And I went through 4 laser sessions beforehand to thin it out a little.

According to my electrologist, most girls will take 1 - 2 years to remove a beard depending on skin reactions and how aggressive removal is. In my case, my skin reacts so badly that I have to use lowish power... means it takes longer and is slightly less effective. I did want to complete it in only a few months, but it's just not possible. On the upside, my skin should look youthful and radiant once this is all over. :)

Sammy Rose, Thanks.

My lady is fast & she can use whatever level she needs however I've slowed her down with all my crying. We have yet to do anything with my upper lip, it just hurts too much. Luckily a dentist is close by & I'm going to have shots/a block for that area so she can finally treat it.

It seems we gossip so much & talk about life that the time goes by & we have not removed much hair. If it takes a while that is OK with me, she is close by & only charges $60 an hour for the actual time she is removing hairs & nothing to talk & visit with each other. She sees a nice face once the hairs are all cleaned up & really likes me so I guess I'm very lucky to find her. Sometime I'm going to let her wax my legs, that would be great.

Anyway I ramble a lot but good luck with your treatments & I hope you can have a nice face once your work is over. Maybe on Saturday we will not talk so much & she can slowly clean up more areas.

Take care, Francis   

I couldn't stop myself from crying at my first electrolysis session, but i just thought to myself, recall how much i hate having facial hair, the frustration and the relief of it going, and that certainly helps me get through each session. It hurts for sure, but it's worth it. x

Not to give a plug for any particular electrolysis facility, but Electrology 3000 in Dallas (Google E3K Dallas) has a physician on staff who will inject your face (or wherever) with a local anesthetic to "numbify" your skin, making the treatment virtually painless, except for the injections.

They are a bit expensive, but for those of us (especially moi) who have zero tolerance for pain, they are a super exciting alternative to painful face clearing.

Oh yeah, they are really quick too...for my first face clearing session (sadly, I'm rather well endowed with facial hair) they utilized two technicians over three consecutive days, and voila, done for 8 weeks!! 

Super swollen after, but no pain during...a wonderful trade IMHO.

Just my $0.02

-A

A, Thanks.

My electrolysis lady is not licensed to give injections so we will use a nearby dentist for injections. She has had previous clients use this process & maybe it will work for everyone. She can go fast if I will just stop crying & complaining so much. I'm not into pain, just want to look & feel nice.

I'm sure there are many electrolysis professionals who have established relationships with medical practitioners to take advantage of local anesthetic injections.  I was just impressed by E3Ks speed and their history with and compassion for the transgendered community.

Good luck and happy zapping :)

Big hugs to all,

Allie

Quote from: windsofchange on November 21, 2013, 03:17:16 PM
I'm sure there are many electrolysis professionals who have established relationships with medical practitioners to take advantage of local anesthetic injections.  I was just impressed by E3Ks speed and their history with and compassion for the transgendered community.

Good luck and happy zapping :)

Big hugs to all,

Allie

Happy Zapping. That is funny & obviously so appropriate for this time of year.

Maybe others are close to this clinic, will notice your post & will use this professional electrolysis service. I'm in the mountains of North Alabama & am very glad & lucky to find this lady. She is making all efforts to help me improve & we have become good friends. 

Quote from: SammyRose on November 20, 2013, 08:20:15 PM
According to my electrologist, most girls will take 1 - 2 years to remove a beard depending on skin reactions and how aggressive removal is.

I would agree with that.  I only needed chin, upper lip, and slight side burns done.  It took about 26 hours to get to full clearance, but nixing the regrowth took a year.

Quote from: luna nyan on November 22, 2013, 05:56:41 AM
I would agree with that.  I only needed chin, upper lip, and slight side burns done.  It took about 26 hours to get to full clearance, but nixing the regrowth took a year.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but did you have quite dense facial hair in those areas?

I use Electrolysis 3000 and can highly recommend it.Of course I live in New Orleans so it is only a 500 mile drive,so traveling there is no real problem.

Girl friends.

Today was a nice day. This was my third 2-3-4 hour visit with nice electrolysis lady. We cleaned up a lot of area & the sting is getting easier. We do plan to use a block/shots from a dentist 3 blocks away for my upper & lower lip areas. Several of her women clients have used this dentist so I should be no different. We will have to schedule this for the week after Thanksgiving during the week.

Oh & she has a man friend that has interest in me. She says he's tall & attractive & well endowed so maybe. She is trying to be nice & play match maker. It works for me maybe later as I look better.

For new girls just starting electrolysis. It's not that bad, it's just slow, any teck can only treat a decent area, maybe 2 inch square on each visit depending on how long you can stay relaxed. From her a one inch square of facial area can have up to 100 hair folicles so it takes time to kill each one.

Having my own machine and doing it myself I can say the pain for the most part is no big deal at all. There are just a couple spots such as under your nose that are sensitive. What is nice about the machine is it has so many adjustments that you can turn the power down and make it more tolerable. Usually if you turn the power down you increase the exposure time.

I noticed someone said vicodin, and that it didn't work well. but I wonder about morphine...... hmmm I don't need much if at hardly any but still would like to get some that is there removed, I have morphine so fig'd I'd do as kariann said and go in high as a kite :P

For some reason I was surprised by the pain when she was clearing my upper lip.  Why surprised? An excellent question, given the probes sticking into my pores with electric current flowing through them... But somehow I let her spend 2 hours on my upper lip *without even lidocaine.* now that I have a month of E in my body   ;D  ;D  there is no possible way i can tolerate it.  I wish laser were suitable for blonde hair....

Infraorbital Nerve Block will give you all the pain relief necessary for regional facial electrolysis. Using a ring syringe and lidocaine, the doctor uses a 25-27 gauge needle. Have fun!

That's an extremely good point Jess...

Having experienced electrolysis with T & no T, just wow!. My pain tolerance is virtually non existent without T... When I first started, I could tolerate much higher currents and longer sessions than I can now. A good reason to get started on electrolysis early!

On another note, I've just bought my own electrolysis machine ( one touch ) to clean up whatever remains. I expect to be doing that for a long time to come :(.

Quote from: DrZoey on November 23, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Infraorbital Nerve Block will give you all the pain relief necessary for regional facial electrolysis. Using a ring syringe and lidocaine, the doctor uses a 25-27 gauge needle. Have fun!

I wanted to let the electro lady use lidocaine & make her own small injections. This is what she wants to do. However I could not find a source to purchase lidocaine.   Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase lidocaine direct?  If you do please advise/post & thank you so much.

Quote from: FrancisAnn on November 23, 2013, 11:49:21 PM

Quote from: DrZoey on November 23, 2013, 11:25:37 PM
Infraorbital Nerve Block will give you all the pain relief necessary for regional facial electrolysis. Using a ring syringe and lidocaine, the doctor uses a 25-27 gauge needle. Have fun!

I wanted to let the electro lady use lidocaine & make her own small injections. This is what she wants to do. However I could not find a source to purchase lidocaine.   Does anyone have any idea where I can purchase lidocaine direct?  If you do please advise/post & thank you so much.

In general lidocaine for injection is not available to (non-licensed) end users. If she's not licensed for meds she can't inject even if you brought your own lidocaine because legally it counts as performing direct care.

That said, the price for a 10 ml (10 mg/ml) vial is about $2 (and another extra couple bucks for sterile water for injection to buffer it). Shipping is the big difference between supple houses.
http://www.mohawkmedical.com/

Flan,

Thanks however Mohawk Medical is like other distributors that want a valid business name & valid license number before shipping this product.

What a nice surprise for my weekly 2-3-4 hour session with my electrolysis she said this Saturday was a gift/present to me. No charge/bring no $. That was nice, she wants me to just relax more & ignore the little stings so she can clean up more area. I will try my best. We are becomming good friends, almost the same age, height & weight, we share lots of stories about previous men in our lives & maybe the new one's, etc.... so it's fun really.

Fifth session today. We are moving some however so much left, so much. Still have not touched upper lip area. My first session with EMLA cream. Sure hope it helps?

Upper lip is making my eyes water just reading about it... I couldn't handle it at all.. Any stray hairs there, I just pluck.... Not letting anyone near me with those nasty needles again!

In regards to pain, anyone tried taking painkillers before? Just Advil and Tylenol or something over the counter.

Yea! My electrolysis obtained some injectible numbing liquid from her doctor. She used it & that was great, one little shot made maybe a 1 or 2 inch square area 100% numb. She could then just zap zap away. My upper lip & most of my lower lip are finally hair free, Yea!!!! Best day I've had in a long time.

With this method she can remove every hair from my face with minimal pain & much quicker for her & myself.

Quote from: Mogu on December 11, 2013, 08:45:31 AM
In regards to pain, anyone tried taking painkillers before? Just Advil and Tylenol or something over the counter.

In general (oral) meds aren't going to do much about electro or laser discomfort/pain but ibuprofen sure helps with inflammation after the session (and keeping the skin moisturized before and after).

By the way EMLA cream is a waste of your $. $50 for a little tube & it does nothing. Just use what your electrolysis suggests. They are smarter with numbing products anyway.

Quote from: Mogu on December 11, 2013, 08:45:31 AM
In regards to pain, anyone tried taking painkillers before? Just Advil and Tylenol or something over the counter.

Dihydrocodeine my flatmate got on prescription,it's pretty strong and worked but I was starting to enjoy it and on the verge of addiction