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Title: Who'd a thunk?
Post by: LordKAT on November 11, 2013, 10:54:45 PM
Post by: LordKAT on November 11, 2013, 10:54:45 PM
Topless Women in Public Not Breaking the Law, Says NYPD
Hannah Ridge May 16, 2013
http://www.policymic.com/articles/42359/topless-women-in-public-not-breaking-the-law-says-nypd (http://www.policymic.com/articles/42359/topless-women-in-public-not-breaking-the-law-says-nypd)
Ladies of New York, you are free to walk bare-breasted through the city! New York City's 34,000 police officers have been instructed that, should they encounter a woman in public who is shirtless but obeying the law, they should not arrest her. This is a good step towards gender parity in public spaces.
This decision means that breast exposure is not considered public lewdness, indecent exposure, or disorderly conduct. It also notes that, should a crowd form around a topless woman, the officer should instruct the crowd to disperse and then respond appropriately if it does not. Relative coverage is no longer a factor.
This policy shift comes after several years of litigation and protest. In the 1992 case People v. Ramona Santorelli and Mary Lou Schloss, the New York Court of Appeals ruled in favor of two women who were arrested with five others for exposing their breasts in a Rochester park, holding the law void as discriminatory. The ruling was put to the test in 2005, when Jill Coccaro bared her breasts on Delancey Street in New York, citing the 1992 decision, and was detained for twelve hours. She subsequently successfully sued the city for $29,000.
In 2007, Go Topless, a national organization supporting gender equality in shirtlessness laws,
PersonalNote: I seem to remember this debate a few years back.
Hannah Ridge May 16, 2013
http://www.policymic.com/articles/42359/topless-women-in-public-not-breaking-the-law-says-nypd (http://www.policymic.com/articles/42359/topless-women-in-public-not-breaking-the-law-says-nypd)
Ladies of New York, you are free to walk bare-breasted through the city! New York City's 34,000 police officers have been instructed that, should they encounter a woman in public who is shirtless but obeying the law, they should not arrest her. This is a good step towards gender parity in public spaces.
This decision means that breast exposure is not considered public lewdness, indecent exposure, or disorderly conduct. It also notes that, should a crowd form around a topless woman, the officer should instruct the crowd to disperse and then respond appropriately if it does not. Relative coverage is no longer a factor.
This policy shift comes after several years of litigation and protest. In the 1992 case People v. Ramona Santorelli and Mary Lou Schloss, the New York Court of Appeals ruled in favor of two women who were arrested with five others for exposing their breasts in a Rochester park, holding the law void as discriminatory. The ruling was put to the test in 2005, when Jill Coccaro bared her breasts on Delancey Street in New York, citing the 1992 decision, and was detained for twelve hours. She subsequently successfully sued the city for $29,000.
In 2007, Go Topless, a national organization supporting gender equality in shirtlessness laws,
PersonalNote: I seem to remember this debate a few years back.
Title: Re: Who'd a thunk?
Post by: Sydney_NYC on November 11, 2013, 11:57:38 PM
Post by: Sydney_NYC on November 11, 2013, 11:57:38 PM
However NYC law says that there can not be nipple exposure where alcohol is being sold. However BYOD is perfectly OK topless.
Title: Re: Who'd a thunk?
Post by: Beth Andrea on November 12, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Post by: Beth Andrea on November 12, 2013, 12:07:00 AM
Quote from: enigma on November 11, 2013, 11:57:38 PM
However NYC law says that there can not be nipple exposure where alcohol is being sold. However BYOD is perfectly OK topless.
Ahh, the Almighty Nipples! We'll poke eyes out with those things! (Make them bug out, more like it ;) )
Title: Re: Who'd a thunk?
Post by: KelsieJ on November 12, 2013, 12:47:26 AM
Post by: KelsieJ on November 12, 2013, 12:47:26 AM
This has been the case in NYC for a while....a photographer, one of the paparazzi I know called Holly, used to keep getting arrested for going topless around the city.
Outside of the City and Borough of NY though it's a different matter.
EVery year they have a Topless Freedom event there, and thousands go topless in Manhattan.
In neighboring states it's NOT illegal for transwomen to go topless if they haven't changed their ID
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/05/transgender-men-go-toples_n_601745.html
Outside of the City and Borough of NY though it's a different matter.
EVery year they have a Topless Freedom event there, and thousands go topless in Manhattan.
In neighboring states it's NOT illegal for transwomen to go topless if they haven't changed their ID
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/06/05/transgender-men-go-toples_n_601745.html