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Uh... Yeah, wasn't sure where else to post this.

Could it be possible in my case to transplant a female pelvic bone from a bio female? Well she could be a donor if she has died or still alive she can have mine, provided it's an ftm Trans person.

Seriously?  :o Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo.

*crosses fingers* ;)

Be careful what you wish for. You didn't say whether you wanted to survive the surgery or any other conditions like being able to walk again.

It would be easier to modify the pelvis, albeit with quite some scarring and possible disability.

I appreciate the desire to appear more feminine in the hip region (believe me, I do!) but I've done a bit of research in this area.  If you are interested in why it is medically unsound, read on, otherwise feel free to skip to the hug at the end of this post. ;)

I'd say it would likely be impossible given the current level of medical knowledge/technique.  Not only would you have to be on strong immune-suppressant drugs for the rest of your life to prevent your body from rejecting the new pelvis and killing you, the nerves that run through the pelvic region are incredibly complex and dangerous to mess with, making it extremely likely that you would be paralyzed and feel nothing from the waist down, if you survived the surgery.  On top of that, even if everything worked there would be the problem of mating the top of your leg-bones to the new sockets in the pelvis, reattaching ligaments, etc.  Any failure in that chain would render the operation useless.

*hug*  :)

Shaking my head.

The surgery has been performed at least three times, although  not across gender.

http://www.ksl.com/?nid=148&sid=77729

These two are an announcement, then a correction:

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19850223&id=IIoxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sKUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=4441,718530

http://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1946&dat=19850226&id=IooxAAAAIBAJ&sjid=sKUFAAAAIBAJ&pg=3939,2032069






Edit: At least four times. http://naukawpolsce.pap.pl/en/news/news,386241,first-pelvic-bone-transplant-in-poland.html

The part about rejection is rather interesting.. Apparently your body takes over the transplanted bone with your own bone cells. Cool!

Honestly I'm just waiting for bone & tissue altering nanomachines :D :D

Are you going to make me find that, too?  :laugh: Hugs, Devlyn

Why?

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Why?


Bone grafts are rare, and never for cosmetics purposes.

I thought the question was could it be possible?  <looks at thread title>  Yup.

Quote from: Devlyn Marie on November 27, 2013, 08:12:41 PM
I thought the question was could it be possible?  <looks at thread title>  Yup.

That's quite right... but my question is why someone would want to go thru with it? And for what purpose or to what end?

Why?... And... Why?

"Why" indeed, but I can't say that the nuttiest of thoughts haven't crossed my mind either :angel:

Quote from: JennX on November 27, 2013, 08:14:25 PM
That's quite right... but my question is why someone would want to go thru with it? And for what purpose or to what end?

Why?... And... Why?

Isn't that what the general public says about transitioning? We shouldn't judge others.

Hugs, Devlyn

I know a way this can be done
But its not a hip bone replacement.

Have a radical surgeon saw your pelvis off just on the
Inside of your hip to thigh joint.

Use a metal spacer or some metal to extend one inch
Each side. Use bone cement to fill space.

Hehe gonna hear about this on wierd or what

Omg that makes me shudder! Lol

You are absolutely right about this being on a TV show. Someone is going to do this to achieve barbie doll proportions. I bet they will remove a rib, too, while they are at it ;)

Geez. This whole discussion makes me cringe. I can't imagine any decent surgeon ever doing something like this for cosmetic purposes. I've never considered my hip width that much of issue and mine are not particularly wide. Most women who have wide hips wish they were narrower. I say don't get surgery for anything a little padded underwear can fix.

~ Lyric ~

I think a lot more trans women would be a lot more happier if they just focused on loving the body they have instead of the body they want. You can have surgery after surgery but if you don't love the person you are it's completely pointless. Cis women have to learn to accept their bodies and so do we you can't buy happiness that can only come from accepting who you are and leaning to live with it. ;)

Quote from: Heather on November 30, 2013, 10:49:51 AM
I think a lot more trans women would be a lot more happier if they just focused on loving the body they have instead of the body they want. You can have surgery after surgery but if you don't love the person you are it's completely pointless. Cis women have to learn to accept their bodies and so do we you can't buy happiness that can only come from accepting who you are and leaning to live with it. ;)

You are COMPLETELY right about self acceptance Heather.

But, in the end, it's a person's decision what they do with their body and we (as other people) cannot be ones to judge their decisions. It is our duty to keep improving and taking care of our bodies any way we see fit. The danger zone is if someone tries to achieve self acceptance from body altering surgeries rather than from within. It must come from within, as you say.

Quote from: Jennygirl on November 30, 2013, 12:56:01 PM
You are COMPLETELY right about self acceptance Heather.

But, in the end, it's a person's decision what they do with their body and we (as other people) cannot be ones to judge their decisions. It is our duty to keep improving and taking care of our bodies any way we see fit. The danger zone is if someone tries to achieve self acceptance from body altering surgeries rather than from within. It must come from within, as you say.

True I was just talking about happiness I could really careless what somebody does too their body. If somebody wants to wreck their body on an experimental hip procedure then more power to them I enjoy my ability to walk. But this surgery solves everything culture I see in the trans community is why I find myself distancing myself from it. I think a woman's beauty comes from who she is not the number of surgeries she has had.

Quote from: Heather on November 30, 2013, 01:14:24 PM
True I was just talking about happiness I could really careless what somebody does too their body. If somebody wants to wreck their body on an experimental hip procedure then more power to them I enjoy my ability to walk. But this surgery solves everything culture I see in the trans community is why I find myself distancing myself from it. I think a woman's beauty comes from who she is not the number of surgeries she has had.

I'm in full agreement with you there, Heather :)

I don't think anybody in their right mind would wreck their body on purpose though, that sounds like a disease not limited to trans folk but people of all backgrounds who seek 'extraneous' plastic surgeries.

It has been crossing my mind a lot that trans people share no more in common with each other than regular people. There will always be those who cannot accept themselves, it is a human trait- not a trans trait. Is it more common for trans people to have difficulty accepting themselves and therefore go overboard on surgeries? Perhaps, but I honestly haven't seen it. Are trans people in the spotlight on these issues? Absolutely, but that is not based on the individual... it's modern society and culture that does that.

Considering all of the gender surgeries available, I don't think this is question is too far out of the mainstream. 

However, rather than a pelvis transplant... with all of the risks of rejection, etc.,  you might want to look at what is happening with 3d printed bones.  Japan has already had some success in replacing injured vertabrae with 3d printed vertabrae and research is continuing into bones that are printed and then seeded with your own cells so that they are indistinguishable from your own tissue.

Someday you might be able to get 3d generated bone that can be grafted to your existing pelvis to give you the shape that you want.  Or if you can't wait for science... there are silicone hip implants you can get right now.

That being said... Surgery is never something to be taken lightly.  A lot of gender surgeries are still fairly experimental.  Even with the best surgeons you might not like the results.  And there is always the possibility of disfigurement or death.   ...but if this is something you feel driven to do you might not be worried about that.

At the risk of derailing your desire for wider hips...  if you are looking for surgeries that are going to enhance your passability or quality of life you might want to look at Facial Feminization Surgery or the Yeson Voice Feminization Surgery first.  You can always pad your breasts and hips, but your face and voice are always out there for the whole world to see.  You should look at that before chasing after anything that is too new or radical.