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Title: dresses and skirts.
Post by: kariann330 on December 02, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
Just wondering has anyone ever considered, if its possible with your career, only wearing dresses and skirts? Im asking because if you think about it they are basically the most feminine thing anyone can wear, but on the flip side with them being less clingy a perfect tuck isn't needed where as with some jeans and every pair of yoga pants it is. Only downside i can think of to wearing a dress or skirt all the time is if it gets cold during winter that cold air would chill you in a totally different wau, especially if you don't wear leggings or nylons under them.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Xhianil on December 02, 2013, 02:43:57 PM
The Sad truth is we can't wear those magnificent things all day everyday, it gets too cold and they arn't always acceptable clothing for some fields.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: evecrook on December 02, 2013, 03:14:40 PM
it would be nice and don't forget the heels
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Lauren5 on December 02, 2013, 03:18:29 PM
Dresses and skirts look nice and when bought/sewn right, can go for any body shape. Unfortunately, the weather here in Michigan prevents me from wearing mine out this time of year, although I did wear mine with tights to a TDoR vigil two weeks ago, telling myself that this suffering isn't nearly as bad as what others have to go through.
Fortunately, one of the pairs of jeans that a friend handed down to me doesn't reveal much, if anything, if I have it a little lower on my hips than I would like. I just need a belt to hold it up.
Which also brings up the belted dresses, like my own. That adds a lot more, shall we say, professionalism, to the outfit, making it more work appropriate.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Xhianil on December 02, 2013, 03:38:37 PM
Here in texas it's already snowed once, it gets cold all over.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Robin Mack on December 02, 2013, 03:42:25 PM
There are some professional environments with dress codes that forbid women to wear slacks, oddly enough.  I'm working at one of them.  Boots and leggings can be quite warm, too... so yes, it is quite possible, but you will want a career in some indoor-related professional environment, like software development, legal, some medical, etc.  :)

Just don't expect to wear a skirt as a fire fighter, electrician, or an oil jobber. ;)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Mogu on December 02, 2013, 03:51:32 PM
I've been wearing skirts the past two years, I haven't worn pants out of the house save for exercise. The skirts are all ankle length and I wear them as a male. I often get complements on my style, but a lot of stares as well (although no one has ever said something negative to me).

It's possible to do (skirts at least, not sure about dresses), but you'll need different skirts for different occasions (formal, etc) and you might have a lot of difficulty depending on your work (also, stairs suck). Winter isn't actually that much of a problem, but I wear a long coat as well, you can always put on pants under if it's really that cold.

If you want to do it, I'd say try it.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Tristan on December 03, 2013, 12:45:55 PM
In my Career it is required sometimes. and i dont mind it at all :)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Anna++ on December 03, 2013, 01:16:55 PM
Quote from: kariann330 on December 02, 2013, 02:39:42 PM
Just wondering has anyone ever considered, if its possible with your career, only wearing dresses and skirts?

Nope!  I'm a jeans and geeky t-shirt kind of girl :)  (But I do get into a "I want to wear a dress today!" mood every couple of weeks)

Quote
Im asking because if you think about it they are basically the most feminine thing anyone can wear

I caution against doing something just because it's considered feminine.  It's cool if you like dresses, but wear them because you like them and not because "that's what women do" :)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Ms Grace on December 03, 2013, 03:13:25 PM
My personal preference is for dresses and skirts. As I'm tall they are, at the very least, an outward "affirmation" that I'm female. I had a few bad experiences of being misgendered when I tried to pass wearing jeans during my first attempt at transition, so I'm a bit pants-shy. On reflection though those attempts to pass weren't very good and I do need to put that little demon out of its misery. It's a matter of finding the right type of pants and top to go with it I guess.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: evecrook on December 03, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on December 03, 2013, 03:13:25 PM
My personal preference is for dresses and skirts. As I'm tall they are, at the very least, an outward "affirmation" that I'm female. I had a few bad experiences of being misgendered when I tried to pass wearing jeans during my first attempt at transition, so I'm a bit pants-shy. On reflection though those attempts to pass weren't very good and I do need to put that little demon out of its misery. It's a matter of finding the right type of pants and top to go with it I guess.
I don't know why any body would misgender you
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: vlmitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Yick. I mean, I love dresses and skirts on occasion but, in terms of practicality, they're a hassle. Car doors, cleaning and maintenance, and then there's the ever present problem of having to deal with chafing between the thighs. Most of the time, I wear jeans, exercise pants, slacks, etc.

On another note, in terms of passability, most chicks don't wear skirts and dresses all the time. Most girls I know/play sports with/am friends with wear skirts/dresses maaaaybe about 10% of the time, if that. The only women that I know who wear dresses and skirts more than that are either: a) very, very strongly feminine in appearance (South American chicks, southern black women, very old school old white ladies), b) Wear them for religious reasons (modesty, faith based dress code), or c) hippy chicks (though they wear them only about 30% of the time as opposed to 10%).

Honestly, dressing overly feminine is pretty stereotypically an early transition thing to do. I mean, if that's your style, cool, but do try to consider what 'you' want to wear as opposed to what you think is the most appropriate for a 'girl'. Do *you* want to be hyper feminine all the time? Will that work with where you're at in transition/with your features? What do you want your style to say about you?

Really consider all this before trying to slant your fashion one way or the other. Otherwise, you'll stick out in ways that will make you far less comfortable than wearing not-pants will make up for.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 03, 2013, 05:58:16 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on December 03, 2013, 03:13:25 PMI'm a bit pants-shy.
I am a bit skirt-shy :P
Really - I feel like overdressing if I do and like people will more likely think of me as trans than when I am not wearing a skirt - I  need to get over that and do some liberation of my feminine sides I guess ;)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Jennygirl on December 03, 2013, 06:54:11 PM
Dresses4lyfe!

:D :D

Just kidding. I wear all sorts of clothes! If not a dress then tank tops with jeans and a cardigan/sweater.

Heels are more occasional for me now, but I still love them!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Mx Pippa on December 03, 2013, 09:35:27 PM
All I ever wear during the day and casual evenings, are skirts with leggings this time of year. I just brought some magic pink, white, and black knit wear leggings, which I love to bits and just have to wear everywhere. I may raise an eyebrow for a second or two, but they soon get used to it.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: kellibra on December 03, 2013, 10:56:52 PM
as victoria says, i think it might be an over-feminine early transition desire to wear skirts and dresses all the time. maybe a need to 'catch up' on the lost time before that when we were stuck in pants-land.
feminine GGs can pull off anything because their attitude goes way beyond dressing. that is their force, their radiance, to be who they are without any societal constraints. i would love to wear skirts, hose and heels everyday but i imagine that would diminish in time. meanwhile, gotta love the pink fog...
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Miyuki on December 03, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Honestly, dressing overly feminine is pretty stereotypically an early transition thing to do. I mean, if that's your style, cool, but do try to consider what 'you' want to wear as opposed to what you think is the most appropriate for a 'girl'. Do *you* want to be hyper feminine all the time? Will that work with where you're at in transition/with your features? What do you want your style to say about you?

My thoughts exactly. As much as you may want to compensate for a lifetime of not being able to do something, I don't know any girls that wear skirts on a daily basis. And personally, I was never a big fan of skirts to begin with. I'm much more comfortable in a pair of skinny jeans. I also don't like how much pressure wearing a skirt puts on you to be passable. I would much rather someone think "wow, that's a really feminine looking guy", than have them think "wow, that guy is only kidding himself if he thinks he can get away with wearing a dress". It just doesn't make sense to me to try and push things farther than what my passability allows me to get away with.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Ms Grace on December 04, 2013, 01:06:41 AM
Quote from: evecrook on December 03, 2013, 03:20:50 PM
I don't know why any body would misgender you
It was early days and there were a lot of things I didn't do right that time, fashion being one of them!

For me, being 6'3" tall, a dress or a skirt is a much easier option because, unlike pants or jeans, I don't have to worry so much about length. Plus I have great legs!  ::) ;)

It's possible that dresses are fashion cyclical. In Sydney, a few years back, just about every woman was wearing pants. However at the moment it seems about only one third are. We're heading into summer so that might have something to do with it!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Joan on December 04, 2013, 01:49:05 AM
Skirts and dresses are surely one of the most obvious things we were denied in being what we are. Many little girls get excited about their party dresses, many woman get excited about what to wear to a wedding or other fancy event.  Many of us are drawn to skirts and dresses. 

Having said that it's TPO: depends on the time place and occasion. Skirts are just not appropriate for some occasions and jeans aren't for others. And your mileage may vary on the culture you find yourself living in.

I wish I could find a dress to wear. Being about a foot taller than the average woman where I live most dresses barely cover those bits between my legs :)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 04, 2013, 06:52:54 AM
Quote from: Joan on December 04, 2013, 01:49:05 AM
Skirts and dresses are surely one of the most obvious things we were denied in being what we are.
Hmm - I would say the most obvious thing for me that I felt was denied to me was a female body - breasts, hips, genitals, face,... clothing that shows this body were a bit luring, but oddly eneough I really liked girls sport dresses like leggins etc - except of course I did not have the body to match them, so dysphoria again. Skirts were amazingly not that much of a topic for me.

Quote from: Miyuki on December 03, 2013, 11:37:39 PM
And personally, I was never a big fan of skirts to begin with. I'm much more comfortable in a pair of skinny jeans. I also don't like how much pressure wearing a skirt puts on you to be passable. I would much rather someone think "wow, that's a really feminine looking guy", than have them think "wow, that guy is only kidding himself if he thinks he can get away with wearing a dress". It just doesn't make sense to me to try and push things farther than what my passability allows me to get away with.
Yes this is what I thought exactly back then. It also is why I did not have a definite date where I could say the RLE had begun - with HRT more and more people shifted from seing me as a effeminate guy towards seeing me as a bit of a boyish girl. I would have felt odd and actually more like a guy in drag if I would have tried pulling off wearing dresses at that time.
Sadly, this feeling somehow stuck with me and I still do not really feel comfortable in them - I still feel that people would only then notice that I am not that feminine to fit that fashion and then look for the reason for the discrepancy. So that is maybe a tiny bit sad that now 13 years post op I still do not feel comfortable in skirts and dresses, but well - its not that important, but it is a bit nagging at me...
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Joan on December 04, 2013, 07:40:04 AM
I think this thread shows just how much we are all individuals with different attitudes, feelings and experiences :) and I think much of that depends on when, and where you were born, and where you did your growing up. 

I also think there need be no worries about wearing a skirt. Many women all over the world do it :D
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: noleen111 on December 04, 2013, 10:11:06 AM
I love wearing skirts/dresses

I wear a skirt almost daily, but as part of my uniform at work I wear a pencil skirt.  I don't really like wearing pants, so this suits me fine.

I love wearing really short mini skirts on hot summers days..
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Miranda Catherine on December 04, 2013, 11:54:08 AM
I had an unnecessary knee replacement surgery, which gave me the staph infection MRSA. It was so virulent that when antibiotics couldn't kill it, they physically dug it out and the scar tissue made it impossible to completely straighten out my knee. Wearing pants exacerbates that look, so I always wear dresses and skirts, which I love wearing anyway. I have pretty nice legs and the Southern California weather is great, so I haven't worn pants in more than nine months.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: evecrook on December 04, 2013, 12:53:20 PM
I'm not full time yet, I have tentative plans by the summer. Right now I go to my coffee house in a sweater that can be seen as male  or female. I'm pretty lucky to have very noticeable breasts. I some times wear make up I feel pretty feminine with out wearing a dress. I love dresses though .I use to go shopping and running around in a dress. For some reason it never phased me whether I looked like a man in a women's dress or not because I felt a terrible need to get out. Jeans are definitely more particle though. A nice blouse and jeans looks great.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: kariann330 on December 04, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
On another note, in terms of passability, most chicks don't wear skirts and dresses all the time. Most girls I know/play sports with/am friends with wear skirts/dresses maaaaybe about 10% of the time, if that. The only women that I know who wear dresses and skirts more than that are either: a) very, very strongly feminine in appearance (South American chicks, southern black women, very old school old white ladies), b) Wear them for religious reasons (modesty, faith based dress code), or c) hippy chicks (though they wear them only about 30% of the time as opposed to 10%).

Honestly, dressing overly feminine is pretty stereotypically an early transition thing to do. I mean, if that's your style, cool, but do try to consider what 'you' want to wear as opposed to what you think is the most appropriate for a 'girl'. Do *you* want to be hyper feminine all the time? Will that work with where you're at in transition/with your features? What do you want your style to say about you?

Really cuz there are about 15-30 women at my church who wear nothing but skirts or dresses along with all of there daughters.
I guess it pays sometimes to be a Conservative.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Xhianil on December 04, 2013, 05:39:08 PM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Yick. I mean, I love dresses and skirts on occasion but, in terms of practicality, they're a hassle. Car doors, cleaning and maintenance, and then there's the ever present problem of having to deal with chafing between the thighs. Most of the time, I wear jeans, exercise pants, slacks, etc.

On another note, in terms of passability, most chicks don't wear skirts and dresses all the time. Most girls I know/play sports with/am friends with wear skirts/dresses maaaaybe about 10% of the time, if that. The only women that I know who wear dresses and skirts more than that are either: a) very, very strongly feminine in appearance (South American chicks, southern black women, very old school old white ladies), b) Wear them for religious reasons (modesty, faith based dress code), or c) hippy chicks (though they wear them only about 30% of the time as opposed to 10%).

Honestly, dressing overly feminine is pretty stereotypically an early transition thing to do. I mean, if that's your style, cool, but do try to consider what 'you' want to wear as opposed to what you think is the most appropriate for a 'girl'. Do *you* want to be hyper feminine all the time? Will that work with where you're at in transition/with your features? What do you want your style to say about you?

Really consider all this before trying to slant your fashion one way or the other. Otherwise, you'll stick out in ways that will make you far less comfortable than wearing not-pants will make up for.

I absolutely love love love skirts and dresses, pants are off putting, and I'll never wear skinny jeans *shudders* some girls love dresses, some don't, I'm one those that will bite your hand if you try to take mine away (joking, but i might depending on who), i can't wait to be a pretty girl (or just girl) in a stunning crimson dress!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 04, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
I wear them occasionally. And I mean on like... occasions. Like my avatar is on Pride day in New Orleans, so I wanted to be a little more visible and wore a slutty thing. But that's RARELY my thing. You can almost always find me wearing jeans. At work, the uniform shirts they give us wouldn't look good with a skirt, so I stick to slacks.

It's not that I don't like skirts / dresses, but I like to show off my butt and jeans are much more in than dresses and skirts. I get away with dresses and skirts just fine ... in fact I tend to get more male attention with them on. But it's just more me to wear jeans.

Besides, finding a dress that looks good on me is kinda difficult... it has to hit in just the right spot and going through every store to find that right fit is too much work.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: kariann330 on December 05, 2013, 09:49:59 AM
Quote from: Alainaluvsu on December 04, 2013, 06:07:12 PM
Besides, finding a dress that looks good on me is kinda difficult... it has to hit in just the right spot and going through every store to find that right fit is too much work.

Spend a little extra on a good, high quality skirt or dress and have them tailored....trust me a good tailor can take a bed sheet and make it hug all of the right places.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: eerie on December 05, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
My two cents - skirts and dresses doesn't have to be feminine. There are quite some styles with rather brutal look, or at least neutral. Speaking of neutral, I like knitted dresses, it can be fine knit or more pronounced, so it creates different look, and I  like to put strong looking accessories, something in punk style... Accessories can dramatically enhance the appearance. I like simple streamlined looks, without any flowers or what not, it doesn't matter if it is a dress or jeans, I will always find a way to express my not so feminine self.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Anna++ on December 05, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
Quote from: kariann330 on December 04, 2013, 03:51:18 PM
Really cuz there are about 15-30 women at my church who wear nothing but skirts or dresses along with all of there daughters.
I guess it pays sometimes to be a Conservative.

I think the point we're trying to make is that you should wear them because they're fun, not because they're feminine :)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Xhianil on December 05, 2013, 10:31:18 AM
Quote from: Anna++ on December 05, 2013, 10:23:25 AM
I think the point we're trying to make is that you should wear them because they're fun, not because they're feminine :)

Very fun! *twirls for 20 minutes straight* very very fun! I'm such a giggly lil girl.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Heather on December 05, 2013, 10:42:55 AM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PM
Yick. I mean, I love dresses and skirts on occasion but, in terms of practicality, they're a hassle. Car doors, cleaning and maintenance, and then there's the ever present problem of having to deal with chafing between the thighs. Most of the time, I wear jeans, exercise pants, slacks, etc.

On another note, in terms of passability, most chicks don't wear skirts and dresses all the time. Most girls I know/play sports with/am friends with wear skirts/dresses maaaaybe about 10% of the time, if that. The only women that I know who wear dresses and skirts more than that are either: a) very, very strongly feminine in appearance (South American chicks, southern black women, very old school old white ladies), b) Wear them for religious reasons (modesty, faith based dress code), or c) hippy chicks (though they wear them only about 30% of the time as opposed to 10%).

Honestly, dressing overly feminine is pretty stereotypically an early transition thing to do. I mean, if that's your style, cool, but do try to consider what 'you' want to wear as opposed to what you think is the most appropriate for a 'girl'. Do *you* want to be hyper feminine all the time? Will that work with where you're at in transition/with your features? What do you want your style to say about you?

Really consider all this before trying to slant your fashion one way or the other. Otherwise, you'll stick out in ways that will make you far less comfortable than wearing not-pants will make up for.
I couldn't agree more that is one of the first things I learned when I started transitioning. When people think trans they think guy in a dress they don't really picture someone dressed like a everyday woman and for most women a dress is not something worn on a daily basis. You hear the word passing thrown around a lot but the word that should be thrown around a lot is blending and wearing a dress is anything but blending it's about standing out and saying look at me.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 05, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: eerie on December 05, 2013, 10:21:36 AM
My two cents - skirts and dresses doesn't have to be feminine.
You mean like this?

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LOL - I had the ankle long version of that (http://img60.kleiderkreisel.de/images/item_photos/104/740/172/104740172.jpg?1358244178). It was looking a lot better though. And I actually wore it some of the times - maybe even more than any of the other skirts I ever owned ;)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Nicolette on December 05, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
Quote from: anjaq on December 05, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
LOL - I had the ankle long version of that (http://img60.kleiderkreisel.de/images/item_photos/104/740/172/104740172.jpg?1358244178). It was looking a lot better though. And I actually wore it some of the times - maybe even more than any of the other skirts I ever owned ;)

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg60.kleiderkreisel.de%2Fimages%2Fitem_photos%2F104%2F740%2F172%2F104740172.jpg%3F1358244178&hash=d5f5c362c42c4a30e5614c3e4eabc66689293e93)

The ankle one is very cute!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: eerie on December 05, 2013, 11:47:08 AM
Quote from: anjaq on December 05, 2013, 11:13:38 AM
You mean like this?

LOL, indeed.  ;D Yeah, why not, though that is not that I had on my mind. Denim mini is OK, that I can wear, but not a fan of denim overalls and that kind of stuff.
I had something like this on my mind
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vs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fde-can1.ciao.com%2Fcan_de%2F12423416604.jpg&hash=a9074e10deac93672a63ec586f9e5daaac673599)

with the second one you simply can't wear something like
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which I have...
oh, and that is one of dresses I have
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It is certainly not some hipster style, but it doesn't look overly feminine either, especially if paired with bulky boots with low or no heels at all.
And this I use to cover my fake cleavage  ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fecx.images-amazon.com%2Fimages%2FI%2F41ra3%252BgbZmL._SX190_CR0%2C0%2C190%2C246_.jpg&hash=16f7dd5db4bf38352f4f9335e909109d9addbb94)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Pia Bianca on December 05, 2013, 03:40:25 PM
Quote from: Nicolette on December 05, 2013, 11:27:25 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg60.kleiderkreisel.de%2Fimages%2Fitem_photos%2F104%2F740%2F172%2F104740172.jpg%3F1358244178&hash=d5f5c362c42c4a30e5614c3e4eabc66689293e93)
Uh. I love that one!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 05, 2013, 04:14:08 PM
Dammit - I am now to bit to fit into that one. I hat having gained 20 kilos over the years. That is one of the reasons I disliks feminine clothing now - i am just too fat ;)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Mogu on December 05, 2013, 09:21:08 PM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 05:52:35 PMthen there's the ever present problem of having to deal with chafing between the thighs.
I'd suggest compression shorts. The kind some athletes wear. I just got a pair today, they're wonderful and make walking so much better.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on December 05, 2013, 09:48:22 PM
I exclusively wear skirts and dresses to work where I teach. When I'm not at work, I almost always wear jeans. But I'm not allowed to wear jeans to work. I worry sometimes about fulfilling a stereotype, but I just don't think that the dress pants I own or have tried on (but not bought) look feminine enough. They box me in rather than accentuate my feminine form. I've noticed they tend to do the same to cisgender women, but cisgender women rarely have to worry about being taken for men, even when their clothes deemphasize their curves.

I truthfully have no idea what most people say about my habit of wearing dresses, but I think having a good sense of style, and wearing clothes that are age appropriate and flattering goes a long way toward combatting whispering about inexpertness.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 03:56:39 AM
Quote"then there's the ever present problem of having to deal with chafing between the thighs."
This - its also one of the reasons I dont wear skirts a lot. Plus the legs are always cold unless it is really a warm day in midsummer (in which case the chafing is even worse).

Are there really jobs that require of you to wear skirts or dresses? Thats awful. I guess many actually like that of course (sort of like you cannot escape now that people recognize you are a woman) but to tell people what to wear is kind of bad. I think I would be very uncomfortabe in such a job.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Ms Grace on December 06, 2013, 04:13:20 AM
It occurs to me that many Australian high schools, whether public or private or religious, require students to wear a uniform (unlike in countries like the USA) - the girls uniform will almost always be a skirt, sometimes with a pants option. On any given day most of the girls I see in school uniforms are wearing a skirt. I wonder if that makes women more likely to wear dresses and skirts once they leave school as opposed to countries where schools don't have a uniform and school girls might be more likely to wear jeans or pants? Just a crazy theory, might hold no water whatsoever!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Emmaline on December 06, 2013, 04:22:24 AM
I am a big fan of the skirt over legging combo.  Feminine, no chafing, warm and unconstricting.

(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.omkarawear.com%2Fsystem%2Fproduct%2Fpicture1%2F0000%2F0765%2FPyrit_Black-Violet.jpg&hash=dd5204dc24fbd17420e95bf1a3c9ee698dfb8200)
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 04:28:04 AM
QuoteI wonder if that makes women more likely to wear dresses and skirts once they leave school as opposed to countries where schools don't have a uniform and school girls might be more likely to wear jeans or pants?
Or they will rebell against the stupid school uniform thing and deliberately wear no skirt for a long time after they do not have to ;)

I used that skirt/leggins combo some times, but it was not really that great for me. the skirt was often riding up from friction with the leggins and overall this was really just for looks then - it felt like wearing a leggins and then something over it - if done for the looks I guess it is interesting. For the feel, it is the same as tight pants really, isn't it?
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Ms Grace on December 06, 2013, 06:27:18 AM
Quote from: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 04:28:04 AM
Or they will rebell against the stupid school uniform thing and deliberately wear no skirt for a long time after they do not have to ;)

I did wonder that too, except most of them can rebel she they're out of school hours... apparently by wearing super short, short shorts!
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 07:06:37 AM
Ah, are the school skirts long ones? I always picture school uniform skirts as kneelong. Whcih I find fascinating as they supposedly are conservative but I would never wear a skirt that short...
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Nicolette on December 06, 2013, 08:07:37 AM
Quote from: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 07:06:37 AM
Ah, are the school skirts long ones? I always picture school uniform skirts as kneelong. Whcih I find fascinating as they supposedly are conservative but I would never wear a skirt that short...

The skirts that some school kids wear in UK are often long enough to cover their underwear, but sometimes not.. Because of this immodesty, some schools have enforced 'trousers only' for both sexes.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Pia Bianca on December 07, 2013, 09:53:14 PM
Quote from: anjaq on December 06, 2013, 03:56:39 AM
This - its also one of the reasons I dont wear skirts a lot. Plus the legs are always cold unless it is really a warm day in midsummer (in which case the chafing is even worse).

I have no experience yet, but I'm excitedly looking forward to finally wearing skirts. I'll finally be free then.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Alainaluvsu on December 07, 2013, 10:49:11 PM
I tend to wear skirts if walking is going to be kept to a minimum.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Katie Anne on October 07, 2024, 10:42:09 AM
Growing up I always wanted to wear skirts and dresses and the stockings and cute shoes that go with skirts and dresses. I transitioned more than 10 years ago. I haven't worn pants often since then and in the last two years, I haven't worn pants at all. I have heavy tights for winter and lightweight hose for summer. I generally wear heels, but I have a variety of shoes. Women did wear dresses year-round for centuries. When a baby Tran asks me how to be more graceful and feminine, I always suggest wearing skirts and heels as much as possible. If you can, wear skirts and heels 12 hours a day for a month and see if you haven't trained yourself to sit and move like a lady for the rest of your life.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on October 07, 2024, 11:26:27 AM
I now like both.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: noleen111 on October 12, 2024, 03:06:23 PM
Quote from: Katie Anne on October 07, 2024, 10:42:09 AMGrowing up I always wanted to wear skirts and dresses and the stockings and cute shoes that go with skirts and dresses. I transitioned more than 10 years ago. I haven't worn pants often since then and in the last two years, I haven't worn pants at all. I have heavy tights for winter and lightweight hose for summer. I generally wear heels, but I have a variety of shoes. Women did wear dresses year-round for centuries. When a baby Tran asks me how to be more graceful and feminine, I always suggest wearing skirts and heels as much as possible. If you can, wear skirts and heels 12 hours a day for a month and see if you haven't trained yourself to sit and move like a lady for the rest of your life.

I am like you, I love wearing dresses.. I remember when I was 12, I had to go a function with my parents, it was summer and it was hot day. I had to wear a suit, it was hot and uncomfortable.. I remember there was a 14 year girl that attended, and she was wearing a green strapless maxi summer dress, i was so jealous as she looked for comfortable.. I so wished i could wear that dress. (a first for me at that time, as I started my exploration of female clothing about a year after that).

Suppose that is the reason I love wearing dresses today, i wear a dress/skirt most days and like you I love wearing heels, the higher the better. In winter I love wearing boots, my fav are knee high boots with 3 or a 4 inch heel, obs with stockings to warm my legs, summer it open toe sandals.

Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Gina P on October 13, 2024, 08:05:33 AM
I love wearing dresses and skirts. My wife doesn't understand it but having been deprived this all my life, I think myself and many trans girls want to enjoy the fashion choices available. Skorts are so comfortable in the summer. After my GRS and no tucking I love it all the more. Add a little bling with some jewelry and I am ready to go to the grocery store or dinner.  
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on October 13, 2024, 08:12:24 AM
I like skorts a lot.  I am enjoying dresses and long nightgowns too.  I will be staying warm and cozy in the evenings and nights as it gets cooler and colder.

It is nice to be able to wear all the nice pretty clothes that we should have been using all of our lives. 

Chrissy
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Joeyisfemale on October 14, 2024, 11:08:19 AM
Still working out the clothing.
I love dresses and skirts.
Last night I had a dream I was wearing this lovely long white dress in a constantly shifting public setting but I was going to go for a hike so I had to change. I took off my dress and found I was wearing a skirt underneath. Underneath my femininity is more femininity. Haha.

After decades of perversion of my true self being made to be male, I have to learn how to be who I am, including how to dress well. I never dressed well as a man because I hated my body. So I'm even learning how to just dress myself to be life affirming and attractive.

Its difficult yet fun. I saw these light blue strap sandles on line with this really nice pattern cut into the straps with a light blue flower stitched into the straps and I got so excited. I had to have them. So while trying to figure out what fits, what looks good on me, what's functional, it's also getting excited about buying the right clothes and not getting them fast enough.

I have not come out yet. Still working that out. But pretty much every moment i can wear a dress or skirt I do so. Even when it is risky. I have become a quick change expert.

Now that it's getting cold, I have to work out my cold weather wardrobe.

It just feels so right. When I am dressed correctly, my mind tells me I am pretty. I actually say 'I love you' to my reflection instead of avoiding it in disgust.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on October 14, 2024, 12:17:36 PM
Yes there is much to like about our clothing.  It is nice to be able to wear them everyday, at home, work, or away for sure.

Chrissy
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: barbie on October 19, 2024, 02:32:36 PM
Nowadays most women here wear jeans and athletic shoes. Nevertheless, I do wear skirts and dresses but will wear leggings more frequently this fall and winter. Some of my friends, especially men, sometimes say my wearing miniskirts look 'burdensome', especially in official meetings where most people wear conservative.  My dresses are mostly black, but I sometimes wear white ones.

https://youtube.com/shorts/QMmMD8OalmA

Cheers,

barbie~~


Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 02, 2024, 08:37:42 PM
I prefer A-line skirts, midi length is nice, and solids and florals, not patterns.

I do not care feel comfortable wearing pencil skirts or generally any clothes that are tight.

A plaid shirt and a solid color skirt works for me, or a solid color blouse and a floral skirt.

Chrissy
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: NikkiM on November 03, 2024, 08:44:42 AM
I like wearing skirts and dresses when I decide not to wear jeans and slacks. My dresses and skirts I wear to work, mid and knee length .My skirts are a line and pencil. Dresses, I like sleeved and sleeveless  I know better not to get in trouble for it. My formal dresses,night life and at formal events only. My husband loves seeing me in a black sparkly dress of mine. 
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 03, 2024, 12:59:45 PM
Skirts and dresses are so femaleness affirming.  But one can look nice and feminine in pants too.

Chrissy
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: barbie on November 04, 2024, 12:14:02 PM
I sometimes run wearing a dress.

https://youtube.com/shorts/9eh9BcA7Etk

Before washing it, I run.

Cheers,

barbie~~
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: Paulie on November 05, 2024, 11:10:51 PM
I love wearing skirts and dresses.  I like the feeling I get with dresses but I find that skirts are more practical.  They don't ride up when you lift your arms above your head, and they often have usable pockets.  My biggest need of pockets in dresses and skirts are a place to put my cell phone.  My tendency is to slip my cell phone into a back pocket for carrying.

Paulie.
Title: Re: dresses and skirts.
Post by: ChrissyRyan on November 07, 2024, 08:35:58 PM
Quote from: Paulie on November 05, 2024, 11:10:51 PMI love wearing skirts and dresses.  I like the feeling I get with dresses but I find that skirts are more practical.  They don't ride up when you lift your arms above your head, and they often have usable pockets.  My biggest need of pockets in dresses and skirts are a place to put my cell phone.  My tendency is to slip my cell phone into a back pocket for carrying.

Paulie.


Paulie,


You are so right, as usual.  I also agree with you, these can be a delight to wear.  I recently got a new floral skirt, I really enjoy it.


Chrissy