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Title: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Natalia on December 03, 2013, 01:15:52 PM
This night I had an interesting dream.

Before starting I need to tell I was thinking of me as bisexual, because although feeling attracted to males in a more sexual way...I always felt attracted to females in a more kind of relationship way.
But let's go with my dream. I am sorry if I am bothering with this long story.

I was lost somewhere in my city...on the old town part...and I decided to hitch a ride. A car stopped and there were three boys inside. Two on the front and one on the  back seat. I sited on the back seat and accepted the ride to a nearby shopping center, where they would leave me.
They had around my age and while the two on the front were typical and very masculine boys, the one next to me was a pretty feminine boy with fragile appearance, very thin and he was probably emo because of his clothes and very beautiful black hair.
I was ashamed of staring at the boy, but I couldn't avoid it. And he was all the time looking at me.
While the boys on the front were all happy, laughing about jokes and talking manly talks, we at the back seat were mute along all the way.
When we arrived at the shopping center I left the car and the feminine boy invited to have dinner with him.
I was about to deny, saying I had to go home, but suddenly the pretty boy said to me:
-  You are very beautiful. I couldn't stop looking at you at the car and I was really trying to hold me from touching your hand.
Then he looked at the floor, feeling embarrassed and said:
- Of course I shouldn't have said this...you wouldn't accept this kind of thing coming from another boy...
I felt stunned. I was never called beautiful by anyone! I suddenly felt all happy and said:
- Actually you are wrong...I felt the same way... I am not who you think I am...I mean, I will explain. I accept, but I need to tell you one thing first...
He looked at me with great interest.
- I am a male, but I am not a male. I am a transsexual and I am receiving treatment that will turn me into a woman....would that bother you? Would you like to date with a boy or with a woman? I say this because I am actually a woman and this male body is only my shell.


And then I woke up...I was very happy, it was one of the best dreams I had in a while!

I never, NEVER, had a dream where I was after a relationship with a male.

Now that I'm on HRT I am having this kind of thoughts...I am feeling really attracted to pretty feminine young boys...I look at them on the streets and I see they can notice and some give me back the same kind of look. I can't feel this way with woman now, only with boys.

Why I am feeling this way? It must be HRT...

I don't know, I don't care, I am extremely happy with this...and I can't really tell why. It is weird...

I never expected to get this kind of change while on HRT. Body changes? Ok. Feeling better? Ok...changing my sexual orientation this way? WoW! Unexpected.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: evecrook on December 03, 2013, 01:26:07 PM
Since starting HRT I've had more dreams of seeing my body more feminine. I actually had a dream a couple of nights ago where I was driving in a car with some man I didn't know and we ended up in a motel room. WE kissed and started taking our clothes off then I woke up. The kiss was very pleasurable .
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Lauren5 on December 03, 2013, 01:34:02 PM
I've heard it happens sometimes. If it ends up changing me, which I hope it will (I'm currently asexual) then all the better.
I understand though that many MTFs don't want it to change. This is especially true if they are married or in a relationship with someone they love unconditionally.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: vlmitchell on December 03, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
Happened to me. Girls are nice and all but boys... there's just something about them once all your chemistry is geared towards noticing it. Beware: beards take some getting used to for the kissing. :-)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
I havent dreamed in sometime.  That sounds like an amazing dream though.  Once i fully accepted myself and got my transition under way, i accepted the fact that men are just attractive to me as women.  My girlfriends tell me fantasy is a big part of the fun in intimacy btw.  I think i gotta agree with that.  I hope when i start HRT i can get dreams like that.   This is the point where i've also accepted that my attraction lies with gay women and straight men.  Gay men and straight women do nothing for me.  I do really hope HRT curbs that initial type attraction i get to women, not sure how ill handle the switch of pheromones from smelling the female ones to the male ones.    Pheromones drive me nuts, so i'm open to the possibility that i will go straight or male centric with a secondary interest in women.

       I have to say though, alot of the orientation stuff confuses me.  I think of myself in a women/women or women/man way even though i dont posses the parts for experience.   Experience i think will be what causes me to settle it all in the end, once im finally post op. I like new experiences,(men are such a new thing too lol), i always tire of things im not genuinely interested in though and tend to settle back into things i really like.  Not sure if you have similar thoughts Natalia, but your initial post seemed like it could have come from me.

Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
Happened to me. Girls are nice and all but boys... there's just something about them once all your chemistry is geared towards noticing it. Beware: beards take some getting used to for the kissing. :-)

This is just as scary as exciting to me lol.  I spend enough time posting about men already lol.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: KabitTarah on December 03, 2013, 02:05:10 PM
Quote from: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
I havent dreamed in sometime.  That sounds like an amazing dream though.  Once i fully accepted myself and got my transition under way, i accepted the fact that men are just attractive to me as women.  My girlfriends tell me fantasy is a big part of the fun in intimacy btw.  I think i gotta agree with that.  I hope when i start HRT i can get dreams like that.   This is the point where i've also accepted that my attraction lies with gay women and straight men.  Gay men and straight women do nothing for me.  I do really hope HRT curbs that initial type attraction i get to women, not sure how ill handle the switch of pheromones from smelling the female ones to the male ones.    Pheromones drive me nuts, so i'm open to the possibility that i will go straight or male centric with a secondary interest in women.

       I have to say though, alot of the orientation stuff confuses me.  I think of myself in a women/women or women/man way even though i dont posses the parts for experience.   Experience i think will be what causes me to settle it all in the end, once im finally post op. I like new experiences,(men are such a new thing too lol), i always tire of things im not genuinely interested in though and tend to settle back into things i really like.  Not sure if you have similar thoughts Natalia, but your initial post seemed like it could have come from me.

This is just as scary as exciting to me lol.  I spend enough time posting about men already lol.

Wow... all of this is me too. I'm pre-HRT and was a fully closeted hetero "male." Now I realize I'm probably well into bi along the spectrum. I prefer relationships with women, but I'm questioning everything other than the "like to hang out with" aspect!

Which isn't to say there aren't guys I like to hang out with... there just aren't too many and they can't like sports [too much]. Fantasies are in books and bedrooms... not sport leagues :P
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 02:14:01 PM
Quote from: kabit on December 03, 2013, 02:05:10 PM
Wow... all of this is me too. I'm pre-HRT and was a fully closeted hetero "male." Now I realize I'm probably well into bi along the spectrum. I prefer relationships with women, but I'm questioning everything other than the "like to hang out with" aspect!

Which isn't to say there aren't guys I like to hang out with... there just aren't too many and they can't like sports [too much]. Fantasies are in books and bedrooms... not sport leagues :P

If you've never dated/been with a gay women, esp one who treated you like a woman.  I'd highly recommend it at least once.  The experience for me was pretty apples to oranges.  Im also submissive though, and the only gay women i was with was dominant and aggressive in most aspects of the relationship, without losing her sensitivity and emotionalness.  Going out on dates with her, was not comparable to anything ive experienced before that.   And i had limited sexual experience with guys, which turned out to be amazing for what it was.   Sometimes my orientation feels like mystery mix lol.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Jill F on December 03, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
I'm not sure it really changed for me exactly, but hmm... let's see if I can put my finger on it.

I have always been attracted to women.  That didn't change one bit.  Now I know exactly why it is I've always got along so well with lesbians, and even fooled around with some when I was in high school and college.  I was one of them all along!

Guys, well... it's complicated.  Most of them really turn me off.  I never liked macho alpha d-bags one bit and I never really thought of myself as bi/pan until recently. I never ever wanted to give oral to a cisguy, whether gay or straight, be a bottom or even a top, nor do I think I could connect to a cisguy emotionally like I do with women.  Now if I were packing a vagina, though, I can totally picture getting it penetrated pleasurably by a guy or girl.  I also think trans guy junk can be super sexy and I can picture myself going down on one. (if I wasn't already taken...)  Also transguys seem to understand women better than cisguys and I think I could connect better to one emotionally.  And yes, Johnny Depp, Jared Leto, Josh Holloway and Dave Navarro can all have my number.

Again, if you're trans, you're already beyond queer anyway, so who even cares anymore whom you find attractive. 
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 02:35:20 PM
Quote from: Jill F on December 03, 2013, 02:26:12 PM
I'm not sure it really changed for me exactly, but hmm... let's see if I can put my finger on it.

I have always been attracted to women.  That didn't change one bit.  Now I know exactly why it is I've always got along so well with lesbians, and even fooled around with some when I was in high school and college.  I was one of them all along!

Guys, well... it's complicated.  Most of them really turn me off.  I never liked macho alpha d-bags one bit and I never really thought of myself as bi/pan until recently. I never ever wanted to give oral to a cisguy, whether gay or straight, be a bottom or even a top, nor do I think I could connect to a cisguy emotionally like I do with women.  Now if I were packing a vagina, though, I can totally picture getting it penetrated pleasurably by a guy or girl.  I also think trans guy junk can be super sexy and I can picture myself going down on one. (if I wasn't already taken...)  Also transguys seem to understand women better than cisguys and I think I could connect better to one emotionally.  And yes, Johnny Depp, Jared Leto, Josh Holloway and Dave Navarro can all have my number.

Again, if you're trans, you're already beyond queer anyway, so who even cares anymore whom you find attractive.

This is why im trying to have some fun with it, if i can. I remember when my first came along(we were together for 2 years) we were at each constantly.  I get the feeling im going to have to go through that with men at some point, assuming i can attract one into a LTR.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Natalia on December 03, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
Quote from: Jill F on December 03, 2013, 02:26:12 PM

Guys, well... it's complicated.  Most of them really turn me off.  I never liked macho alpha d-bags one bit and I never really thought of myself as bi/pan until recently. I never ever wanted to give oral to a cisguy, whether gay or straight, be a bottom or even a top, nor do I think I could connect to a cisguy emotionally like I do with women.  Now if I were packing a vagina, though, I can totally picture getting it penetrated pleasurably by a guy or girl.  I also think trans guy junk can be super sexy and I can picture myself going down on one. (if I wasn't already taken...)  Also transguys seem to understand women better than cisguys and I think I could connect better to one emotionally.  And yes, Johnny Depp, Jared Leto, Josh Holloway and Dave Navarro can all have my number.


I also don't feel any attraction to alfa males or those macho man kind of males, all sweat and dirty, with a big mustache, extreme short hair, eating and drinking like a pig, spitting on the floor, thinking only with their genitals...actually this is a total turn-off for me (for most people probably).

But younger boys...this is now another thing...perhaps this is the way from being attracted to females and then to males...males not too masculine, closer to females, kind of androgenous...I hope I am not too old for this kind of attraction lol

But I am happy to feeling myself being transformed into a real straight girl.

Before I was only wanting to be, but now I am starting to be.

Quote from: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 01:53:48 PM
Not sure if you have similar thoughts Natalia, but your initial post seemed like it could have come from me.

I lack experience with both males and females...for me it is hard to be certain about my sexual orientation as I really don't know if I will really enjoy being with men or with women.

My dreams are starting to tell me men. My sexual fantasies tell me men....but if I am wrong?

I am also a very submissive girl...I have always fantasied about having a strict domme and sometimes I didn't care if it was really a male or female. I agree it is all about making the moment and straight men and gay women could make it. When I was fully active on Second Life I got one female domme that showed me this...the problem is that I don't have any means to be sure until I fully transition and start living as a woman.... I think I'll have to believe only in my "experience" on a virtual world...
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: LizMarie on December 03, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
I discussed similar dreams with my therapist and we worked on this, with me ultimately realizing that I am bisexual and could go either way.

I often doubt that we actually change orientation during transition but instead come to terms with ourselves and admit what we've been repressing all along. I grew up in 1960s coal mine and steel mill country and "queers" were not tolerated. You were either a manly man or a sissy and if you were a sissy, there would be violence coming. So boys in that environment were taught from a very young age to repress anything other than straight heterosexual desires. I think that in finally coming to terms with myself, I've let go of part of my past.

I will note that I never told any but a few that in high school one of my best friends (male) kissed me and I didn't fight it. He ended up coming out as gay a few years later. I ended up wishing that I could have been his girl. :P
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: KabitTarah on December 03, 2013, 03:32:06 PM
Quote from: LizMarie on December 03, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
I discussed similar dreams with my therapist and we worked on this, with me ultimately realizing that I am bisexual and could go either way.

I often doubt that we actually change orientation during transition but instead come to terms with ourselves and admit what we've been repressing all along. I grew up in 1960s coal mine and steel mill country and "queers" were not tolerated. You were either a manly man or a sissy and if you were a sissy, there would be violence coming. So boys in that environment were taught from a very young age to repress anything other than straight heterosexual desires. I think that in finally coming to terms with myself, I've let go of part of my past.

I will note that I never told any but a few that in high school one of my best friends (male) kissed me and I didn't fight it. He ended up coming out as gay a few years later. I ended up wishing that I could have been his girl. :P

I wonder this too. I'm being open with myself, not on HRT... and I think bi is much easier to hide (from yourself or others) than being entirely gay (per your AAB sex). So... if I was all bi along, but only acknowledged women as partners, how would I even know?

Quote from: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 02:14:01 PM
If you've never dated/been with a gay women, esp one who treated you like a woman.  I'd highly recommend it at least once.  The experience for me was pretty apples to oranges.  Im also submissive though, and the only gay women i was with was dominant and aggressive in most aspects of the relationship, without losing her sensitivity and emotionalness.  Going out on dates with her, was not comparable to anything ive experienced before that.   And i had limited sexual experience with guys, which turned out to be amazing for what it was.   Sometimes my orientation feels like mystery mix lol.

I'll keep that in mind... but I'm not planning to find that sort of relationship until I'm much further along in transition (if not later...). I don't want to be perceived as a guy. I'm also married... though unless my wife completely changes her mind, that will be ending in early 2014. I'll be true to that until it is over (and probably for a while past that... though I'm grieving it now - I'm sure I'll get a second and bigger period of grief when it's actually over).

Quote from: Natalia on December 03, 2013, 03:03:17 PM
I am also a very submissive girl...I have always fantasied about having a strict domme and sometimes I didn't care if it was really a male or female. I agree it is all about making the moment and straight men and gay women could make it. When I was fully active on Second Life I got one female domme that showed me this...the problem is that I don't have any means to be sure until I fully transition and start living as a woman.... I think I'll have to believe only in my "experience" on a virtual world...

Wow... I'm definitely "female role" submissive and always have been.... but never sub like that! ;)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
I'd love a dominant horn dog if he looked good and kept that stuff to playing at home. I rather hope hes sexually aggressive at home but not in public(is that even possible for men?).  I prefer not to engage anyone without them making the first moves.  I'm perfectly fine too with a guy that can't keep hes hands(other things too) off me at home as long as he gets my man bits are off limits.  Somehow though i just dont think a guy can keep all that at home where it belongs.  I'd also be just as happy with a woman who did similar.  That kinda stuff is wild for the first while, but it fades and plateaus to a normal level after a time.  It takes ALOT longer when the experience is entirely new though.  I sometimes wonder if finding a super trusty friend with benefits might give me a better clue though on orientation, and enough experience to not be so into it.

           I do have to say, dating straight men, gives you a fairly large dating pool, even if a ton of them are slobs.  I honestly wish there enough trans people here to be able to date within the trans community.  At least then, the person you're with will have a far better understanding of your boundaries and the ability to grow together as you transition.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: anjaq on December 03, 2013, 03:52:02 PM
i am not sure. I was aroused some times when I was touched by men in a sexual way pre-coming out, but was very much into girls during transition and directly post op. Now I am unsure and one thing is clear - in sexuality, being penetrated is quite arousing and in my mind there are then images of men doing that at times. And when I went out one night this fall and we got drunk in that group and some sleazy guy was trying to hit on me and kept touching me - I was oddly feeling arousal even though I did not like his personality at all, as he was so sleazy. Still my body was reacting and I was confused by that. So I can imagine that some things are different or at least shifting in some way - I am not sure. I still dont know if I can imagine actually living with a guy as a SO forever... 
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 04:55:19 PM
Quote from: anjaq on December 03, 2013, 03:52:02 PM
i am not sure. I was aroused some times when I was touched by men in a sexual way pre-coming out, but was very much into girls during transition and directly post op. Now I am unsure and one thing is clear - in sexuality, being penetrated is quite arousing and in my mind there are then images of men doing that at times. And when I went out one night this fall and we got drunk in that group and some sleazy guy was trying to hit on me and kept touching me - I was oddly feeling arousal even though I did not like his personality at all, as he was so sleazy. Still my body was reacting and I was confused by that. So I can imagine that some things are different or at least shifting in some way - I am not sure. I still dont know if I can imagine actually living with a guy as a SO forever...

You sound like my GG friends haha.  I keep consulting them in an effort to understand the beast that is men. The only info ive gotten is, they're horny, they're jerks, and we love em.  You can add any number of negative statements to the front of that lol.  I'll never figure out if i really like men until i sleep with one and date one.  Fantasies are pretty much that though.  I made a post on the sexuality forums in an effort to get a better idea, but no biters.  Although i guess there arent that many subscribers.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Ltl89 on December 03, 2013, 07:17:08 PM
Based on what I have seen, it's fairly common.  I wonder if it has as much to do with hrt or shifts in how we perceive ourselves?  Perhaps it's a mixture of things?

For me, nothing has really changed so far.  I'm still where I was before.       
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: evecrook on December 03, 2013, 07:36:25 PM
I guess I've always been bi. For a very long time my fantasies were pretty evenly split between men and women. After starting HRT I've been having a lot of very intense fantasies of men. I think experiencing my body becoming feminized has been having my body looking at itself as more feminine in opposition to a mans body. I get more satisfaction as I see my body more feminine.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: vlmitchell on December 03, 2013, 08:57:12 PM
Quote from: Sophia Hawke on December 03, 2013, 03:47:53 PM
I rather hope hes sexually aggressive at home but not in public(is that even possible for men?).

Yeah. I mean, they'll still grab your ass in public but that's just part of the fun. :-P I loved it when my last BF did that.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: HelloKitty on December 04, 2013, 09:20:46 AM
Dayyumm I wish I had awesome dreams like you guys!

All I have are really stupid ones that don't make sense and where I can fly. Now those dreams are pretty awesome. :D
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Xhianil on December 04, 2013, 09:40:02 AM
Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
Beware: beards take some getting used to for the kissing. :-)

Ugh, beards, yea that'll take some time, luckily my awesome awesome boyfriend agreed to help me get weened up to full beard.
Quote from: LizMarie on December 03, 2013, 03:22:45 PM
I discussed similar dreams with my therapist and we worked on this, with me ultimately realizing that I am bisexual and could go either way.

I often doubt that we actually change orientation during transition but instead come to terms with ourselves and admit what we've been repressing all along. I grew up in 1960s coal mine and steel mill country and "queers" were not tolerated. You were either a manly man or a sissy and if you were a sissy, there would be violence coming. So boys in that environment were taught from a very young age to repress anything other than straight heterosexual desires. I think that in finally coming to terms with myself, I've let go of part of my past.

Sounds kinda like where i am, though I'm happy those places are drying up and we are being accepted more and more.

I've always been bi, though i repressed pretty much everything till a year or two ago, girls seem sexier to me (more the nerdy girl type, i hate those that try to be overly perfect) but males always have had a special something (something i need look down for) that i utterly adore, i think with HRT will make me love guys more.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: chibiStephy on December 04, 2013, 11:05:41 AM
actually My orientation is the same, I always like mans and I'm still liking them :)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: BunnyBee on December 04, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
You have many things going on: the hormones, your self-perception, and better honesty with yourself, like peeps said above.  I think it is the easiest thing in the world to just blame the hormones, but there is probably no way of knowing how big of a role they play.  I happen to think they do play a role, but honestly it isn't something you can know for sure.  In the end, one way or another many/most trans people experience their sexuality shifting a little to a lot after transition.  It probably doesn't matter that much which thing/mix of things is the actual cause.

My experience is I went from mostly asexual to idk...  I think I like guys now quite a lot now, but I am withholding judgement till after I am with one.  I mean at least after a kiss.  I do notice them in ways I never did with either men or women before transition,  mmmm yeahhhhh... Anyway... :)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: evecrook on December 04, 2013, 12:13:21 PM
Quote from: Jen on December 04, 2013, 11:13:17 AM
You have many things going on: the hormones, your self-perception, and better honesty with yourself, like peeps said above.  I think it is the easiest thing in the world to just blame the hormones, but there is probably no way of knowing how big of a role they play.  I happen to think they do play a role, but honestly it isn't something you can know for sure.  In the end, one way or another many/most trans people experience their sexuality shifting a little to a lot after transition.  It probably doesn't matter that much which thing/mix of things is the actual cause.

My experience is I went from mostly asexual to idk...  I think I like guys now quite a lot now," but I am withholding judgement till after I am with one.  I mean at least after a kiss."  I do notice them in ways I never did with either men or women before transition,  mmmm yeahhhhh... Anyway... :)Wait until you see one walking towards you on the street and you see his body from a very female mind
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: kellibra on December 04, 2013, 12:14:30 PM
not on hrt yet but been pondering this issue for a while now. as i explore and express my inner female more and more, it is only natural, i suppose, to wonder about the opposite sex. women have always been and still are my inspiration and passion while men do nothing for me. dressing more and more like a woman, going out in public in semi-drab to see how far i can push, wanting young girls to notice me, i have also begun to want guys to notice me. i have this fantasy of a guy coming up to me, starting a conversation and ending up with a sweet kiss and then a dfk. probably need to experience all those first times a teenage girl goes through as she discovers her own sexuality. but as i dress more fully now (although i don't have the courage to wear a skirt in public), wear bras to cover my small breasts and increasingly feel at ease being a girl, i wonder if and how hrt might change my sexual orientation. the idea of being submissive to a man or going down on him is strangely exciting.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Just Shelly on December 04, 2013, 05:08:21 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on December 03, 2013, 07:17:08 PM
Based on what I have seen, it's fairly common.  I wonder if it has as much to do with hrt or shifts in how we perceive ourselves?  Perhaps it's a mixture of things? For me, nothing has really changed so far.  I'm still where I was before

For me it was more of how I am perceived,men treat me like a woman... even more than I do sometimes!

I was ABSOLUTLY!! an heterosexual man before transition....2 years in I noticed men but eh...no interest...now I would consider myself 95% a heterosexual women!! I don't know how much came from HRT...but I feel most came from being accepted as a women by men (sometimes bad...but mostly good) and being accepted as just one of the girls by other girls.

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Quote from: Victoria Mitchell on December 03, 2013, 01:38:22 PM
Happened to me. Girls are nice and all but boys... there's just something about them once all your chemistry is geared towards noticing it. Beware: beards take some getting used to for the kissing. :-)

Yes men are now very visible!! Wow!! some day's more than others...and the beard thing yes!! those buggers can do damage!! I have also come to notice men's beards now, something I could of cared less about when I used to have one...I really like a man with a couple days growth and really dark! :) I now understand the meaning of tall, dark and handsome :)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Sophia Hawke on December 04, 2013, 05:13:37 PM
Quote from: Just Shelly on December 04, 2013, 05:08:21 PM
For me it was more of how I am perceived,men treat me like a woman... even more than I do sometimes!

I was ABSOLUTLY!! an heterosexual man before transition....2 years in I noticed men but eh...no interest...now I would consider myself 95% a heterosexual women!! I don't know how much came from HRT...but I feel most came from being accepted as a women by men (sometimes bad...but mostly good) and being accepted as just one of the girls by other girls.

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Yes men are now very visible!! Wow!! some day's more than others...and the beard thing yes!! those buggers can do damage!! I have also come to notice men's beards now, something I could of cared less about when I used to have one...I really like a man with a couple days growth and really dark! :) I now understand the meaning of tall, dark and handsome :)

You know whats funny, i think now, i know more about being a straight man than i did before i started transition.  Although, most of that comes from finding out what i like, and the type of behaviour i like.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Just Shelly on December 04, 2013, 05:23:00 PM
Oh and to add to my post....my change in preference was also after fighting it for almost a year. I kept telling myself this can't be happening...no...no! The more I accepted myself as the women I am the easier it was to accept the fact I was now attracted to men....it just feels natural now!! very strange feeling.

I do still notice a women's butt! but I feel so jealous when I see a cute one!! Breasts on other women I never did google over that much before....now if I see a women with very large breasts I am like.....wow, how do they get that big....WTF can I do!!
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: KabitTarah on December 04, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
My therapist adamantly refuses to believe or acknowledge that orientation can change on HRT ;)
He is gay, though...

I still believe it's mostly set, but hormone balance plays a huge role on sexuality to begin with . . . and our balance is screwed up since birth.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Xhianil on December 04, 2013, 06:01:20 PM
Quote from: kabit on December 04, 2013, 05:52:49 PM
My therapist adamantly refuses to believe or acknowledge that orientation can change on HRT ;)
He is gay, though...

Therapists are still human, he could of been told to just "change his back to straight" at some point so he trys to avoid that idea.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: evecrook on December 04, 2013, 06:18:51 PM
I've always been bisexual . I love being with girls as girl friend and lover. I love being with men sexually but not mentally because their brains seem not to function all that well. Since HRT my feelings haven't changed. I seem though to be having quite intense thoughts of being with a man as a woman. they are quite intense and pleasurable .
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Amy on December 04, 2013, 06:22:41 PM
I'm a bit of an odd case on this I guess.

Before I accepted myself or even found out what was wrong with me I always tried to go with women. I had a few relationships but they never lasted long. It was always me not liking them and even if I saw a woman that I found attractive the idea of having a relationship with them would always turn me off. I never thought about having relationships like that with men. That changed when I met a man who saw and treated me as a woman. I was not interested at first because I had no idea what was going on but he just kept trying and trying and I thought he was so cute so I gave in.
But now what, he didn't even know what I really was and all this was causing me huge stress but I wasn't really going anywhere with my life anyway. So I set off to find out what was wrong with me with the biggest clue being that I like being treated as a woman, learned about transgender and everything, recognised a lot of that and accepted it after a while and took the first steps to start transition but that's not what this thread is about.
Back to that man, after all that I told him about myself and what the story is, he was totally fine with it and so far he is still my boyfriend for about 8 months now (I can't actually physically get to him yet and I don't want to until I am done with my transition).
Now see I some of you talking about being submissive to a man but I think I'm a bit the other way around, I really like to dominate them, tease them and have them under my control. I talk to my boyfriend about these things often and he is fine with it as long as he gets to be dominant on rare occasions too (he knew I was like this before he started with me so it's his own fault! :P). I only accepted that because he allows me to be bratty when I'm "supposed" to be submissive, I will never give away all of my female dominance! >:-) This is also quite funny really because I was totally submissive as a man in the relationships I had with women but I know now that I was not being myself at all at that time.

I don't even think about going with women anymore now and I think I was never really attracted to how they look but just jealous of them somewhat unconsciously. I'd think about dominating one but even that I'm not sure about, perhaps as a tool to tease a man. >:-)
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: Kayla86 on December 04, 2013, 08:29:48 PM
About a month before starting HRT I realized that I needed to stop lying to myself and accept the fact that I'm a straight girl... This was pretty shocking at first but now I have 0 desire to be with a woman unless she is beyond beautiful like an 11 out of 10.

I've had girlfriends that ended up being better friends and I've been married / with the same woman for the last 8 years and we're better friends now than we ever were lovers.

So I think its more when you stop lying to yourself and look deep inside your soul - you realize who you truly are.
Title: Re: Sexual orientation changing after HRT?
Post by: kelly_aus on December 04, 2013, 09:05:32 PM
From the outside, it would appear that my orientation did change.. I started transition as an apprently straight girl.. And then realised that while I'd been a gay 'guy' for most of my life, I'd never actually loved one. Been in long term relationships? Sure. But I'd never loved one. Goddess knows I tried. Looking back, the people I had loved were all women - some of whom are still good friends.