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a lady at walmart was glaring at me as i walked by and made her husband look away and step away from me, so hilarious, i love jealousy, being a guy, he obviously kept staring and so i called her a b*tch, (which she was) what i don't get, is why women view other women as enemies, that they want to steal their men, it's like it's a competition, which is why men and women will NEVER be seen as equals, for one, men and women are two different people, and because women hate eachother. feminists really need to give up

too many times...they generally insult

Baby, it is not competition, but insecurity. What a lot of women do not realize is by acting this way they make their problems worse by chasing men off. This then repeats with the next man and makes insecurity even worse. A vicious cycle, isn't it?  ::)

Yes plenty times,they're always some minger with a fat ass!

i agree kim, for the most part, i'm really picky about having female friends, i don't like gossipers or just b*tches, which in my town, pretty much everyone is lol..

I'm usually the one who is jealous.  The day I'm the one envied is the day I can die happily.  Hopefully, it won't be too far from now and I won't die when it happens, lol. 

I don't think I've ever ran into this issue. Of course, I'm kind of ugly, so that could be why. or it could be tied to attitudes of the persons involved. I know it doesn't take words to put out a sense of a bad attitude towards others, kind of like generally bad vibes.

Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 01, 2014, 03:44:29 PM
Baby, it is not competition, but insecurity. What a lot of women do not realize is by acting this way they make their problems worse by chasing men off. This then repeats with the next man and makes insecurity even worse. A vicious cycle, isn't it?  ::)

imo Jessica is exactly right.

i'm sure you're beautiful learning so you have nothing to be jealous of sweetie, and and sweetie, you are not ugly

I think you have a pretty bleak view of women.  I find guys' insecurities, and the way they manifest, a lot more tedious.  Not saying I dislike guys by any means, but the ego stuff that many of them have is just so stupid sometimes.

Anyway, girls rule :)

i can't wait for something like this to happen to me so that i can say to her "i don't care if you try to hide your boyfriend from me because it just gets me a better chance to check you out", and then walk away knowing that she is just shocked hopefully

I encounter the jealousy when I'm out at the mall, or shopping in general too when women are out with their husbands.  I take better care of myself then the wives do.  I look well put together. Never in flip flops or PJ's. 

kiaraja you are a beautiful woman so don't worry, as are you monica, and i relate to you as well, i get my hair and nails done and always leave my house in nice clothes with my hair and everything done

There are woman like this everywhere. It's a necessary evil, Welcome to girl world.

The funny thing is that as catty as woman can be they also stick together and are much more willing to help each other out than men.

Odd right??

Quote from: Janae on January 02, 2014, 02:59:04 AM
There are woman like this everywhere. It's a necessary evil, Welcome to girl world.

The funny thing is that as catty as woman can be they also stick together and are much more willing to help each other out than men.

Odd right?? Strange but true,though there's the bitchy side women have closer friendships. I manage a seaside guest house and 2 straight women have no problem sharing a double bed but 2 straight men sharing is pretty rare.

Sharing sleeping space, with rare exception, is just......wrong feeling, creepy even.

The issues with women I have are usually the middle aged ones that are probably insecure about getting old. I don't really tend to get much issues from younger women (under 40). Older women (55+) are usually really sweet or easy to get along with because they're over the whole pretty stage.

Maybe I just don't notice jealousy issues, but many of my friends are cis-women and I don't think they're jealous of me. I never step out of the house dressed less than trying to look 'together' and show that I care about myself, even though a few of them are a little more casual than me. I do see lots of women who look as if they just don't care about themselves, their husbands/boyfriends, or anything else and I wonder where their lives short circuited. The day I go out in public in flip flops, and no makeup at all is when I'm simply too sick to get ready and I have to go to the drug store or pharmacy for medicine or die. I'm not kidding. I don't miss just putting on a t-shirt and a pair of levi's and doing my business. Not a bit. I did face quite a bit of jealousy into my mid forties in male impersonator mode from guys, and that kind of jealousy can end violently. Women have their own ways of fighting and it's much different than men's and I'd rather face women. I don't think I'm a threat to other women.

Idk, like if my bf was leering at you I would get jealous too.  It doesn't seem that crazy to me.

I get this pretty much every time I'm in public.

and I must say, it's the greatest compliment ever

I've experienced this from an entirely different perspective since I have always presented androgynously and look more youthful than males my age, and am not nearly as masculinized appearing as most males my age, probably the result of almost 20 years on HRT. Often times there are women who are obviously attracted to me or are curious and make it clearly known, something that really pisses off my spouse because it's evident that we are married. There is no regard for boundaries by some and they feel free to hit on me right in front of my significant other, it ought not to be that way.

Quote from: latoya. on January 01, 2014, 03:29:00 PM
a lady at walmart was glaring at me as i walked by and made her husband look away and step away from me, so hilarious, i love jealousy, being a guy, he obviously kept staring and so i called her a b*tch, (which she was) what i don't get, is why women view other women as enemies, that they want to steal their men, it's like it's a competition, which is why men and women will NEVER be seen as equals, for one, men and women are two different people, and because women hate eachother. feminists really need to give up

You're assuming her reaction was jealousy, are you sure? It sounds as though you may have tried to provoke some of this.

I've dated some very attractive women in my past and there were times when we would be out that some insecure guy would go over the top to flirt with them. I've asked guys to stop or leave not out of jealousy but because they were invading our personal space and annoying both of us.

If one is minding their business, I don't think you'll have a problem with jealous women (but their boyfriends might  ;)).

i agree oriah, and i'm the same way miranda i love getting dolled up

Oh yes I have had to deal with jealous women. It's simply part of being a woman. On the other hand since I am in decent shape with some nice muscles I tend to think that keeps them at bay on a physical level.

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on January 02, 2014, 06:18:27 AM
Older women (55+) are usually really sweet or easy to get along with because they're over the whole pretty stage.

Jeez, Alaina, I'm 59, but I hope I'm not over 'the pretty stage' yet, lol! Don't kick dirt on me for awhile, please! I have a BF that I really love and if he looked at one of you girls the way I hope he wouldn't, I wouldn't be angry with either you or him unless you started flirting with each other. I'd be pretty pissed at you, but you'd never know it because I wouldn't give you the satisfaction. On the other hand, he'd be playing with himself that night, because he wouldn't be touching me!

When I said 'you' I meant you ladies, I wasn't focusing on you, Alaina!

Quote from: Miranda Catherine on January 02, 2014, 02:24:10 PM
Jeez, Alaina, I'm 59, but I hope I'm not over 'the pretty stage' yet, lol! Don't kick dirt on me for awhile, please! I have a BF that I really love and if he looked at one of you girls the way I hope he wouldn't, I wouldn't be angry with either you or him unless you started flirting with each other. I'd be pretty pissed at you, but you'd never know it because I wouldn't give you the satisfaction. On the other hand, he'd be playing with himself that night, because he wouldn't be touching me!

When I said 'you' I meant you ladies, I wasn't focusing on you, Alaina!

I knew I would offend somebody. I wish I didn't have to write a book just to explain my thoughts on this forum.

Anyways, when I said that: I meant that most women of a certain age just don't care if people think they're the most attractive person in the room. Calm down  :icon_chillpill:

Quote from: Alainaluvsu on January 02, 2014, 06:23:56 PM
I knew I would offend somebody. I wish I didn't have to write a book just to explain my thoughts on this forum.

Anyways, when I said that: I meant that most women of a certain age just don't care if people think they're the most attractive person in the room. Calm down  :icon_chillpill:

I'm just glad I'm still alive

Quote from: Yasmine on January 02, 2014, 02:47:51 PM
About two years ago I called my (then) bf on the phone and to my surprise a girl answered his phone..

Me: Ehmmm can I speak to *** please?
She: Who is this? Who are you???
Me: I'm *** and who are you?
She: I'm his girlfriend!?
Me: That's interesting.. So am I!

Men are dogs
Women are snakes
Welcome to nature

I have to vote this to be the best commentary and final assessment on both sides of this topic. Way to go Yasmine!  :eusa_clap: :icon_bunch:

I've seen this from the opposite side back when I was pretending to be a male and was in very good shape I would have men shoot me dirty looks and bring their gf/wife closer when I was around. I haven't had the same response from women yet but I have seen older women shoot me dirty looks on occasion.

Quote from: Yasmine on January 03, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
Haha! I still can't believe that happened to me.

When I think about him taking us to the same movie at the same cinema in the same week: WOW!

I think he took her to that movie first btw. The movie was really funny, but he seemed a little bored..

She also told me that he had introduced her to some people as 'his cousin', which seemed weird to her. Duh.. Turned out that those people were people he had introduced me to as his girlfriend..

Sweet memories:)

The guy is a total CAD!

Envy's a strange thing, isn't it? Like, one of my absolute worst habits is envying other trans women, particularly those who pass without a second glance, and so just visiting this very forum because rather a tentative activity. It's not just the scowling sort of envy either, the aforementioned kind can lead to some serious periods of dysphoria and all-around misery. Not sure whether that's a self-esteem thing or just envy of those who've transitioned successfully, but it's something that I seriously need to address going forward.

Anyway, I mention this because, despite my envy of the above people in particular, I really do fail to take into account what they went through over the course of their transition, it just becomes a very black-and-white exterior view of beauty and happiness. The fact that they are those things is nothing short of fantastic (nobody should have to be miserable, it's no fun), but seeing that often doesn't reflect what they had been through to get to that point. I know some beautiful trans women who've been kicked out of their homes and disowned by their parents, purely for being who they are. Jealousy as a vain concept often doesn't extend to circumstances.

_{I also envy those who can make clear, concise points.}

Jealous women tend to have insecurity stemming from so many different places. Sometimes it's projection of their own desires not to be monogamous, sometimes its because their mothers taught them a really strange set of ways to think about relationships, sometimes it's insecurity of another woman's beauty in comparison to themselves, sometimes it's because their boyfriend/husband/guy she's having an affair with has cheated before (or is cheating with her) and thus, she knows that their bond is only so strong.

Generally this comes down to honesty not being a huge part of her primary relationship, poor communication skills, poor self esteem, and other signs that the woman in question has issues with herself. Then again, that's envy and jealousy in a nutshell, ain't it?

Quote from: Yasmine on January 03, 2014, 12:26:02 PM
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She also told me that he had introduced her to some people as 'his cousin', which seemed weird to her. Duh.. Turned out that those people were people he had introduced me to as his girlfriend..

Sweet memories:)

I find this bit particularly hilarious even though I probably shouldn't. That's some pretty high level Jiu Jitsu if you're getting away with it. I mean, not even once did she ask "I'm your what?"