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Title: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 07:49:29 PM
Since I'm turning into an adult after this year (february) can I get a haircut without my moms permission, I'm tired of getting it braided every four weeks, I just want it gone but my mom wants it to grow but its not growing anyway, She says I wouldn't look right either but I think she's just saying that to make me not get it cut.....
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: DriftingCrow on January 03, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
Post by: DriftingCrow on January 03, 2014, 08:12:31 PM
They don't ask your age in salons/barbershops so you can go in without your parents and get a haircut.
When I was a teen, my mom didn't want me to cut my hair either, so one day I just went into the bathroom and shaved it all off down to skin! :o I was so scared to see them afterward, and my parents were quite shocked. My dad didn't like it but later on my mom said that she actually did like it. :laugh: Your mom might be mad at first, but it's just hair. There's worse things to do.
When I was a teen, my mom didn't want me to cut my hair either, so one day I just went into the bathroom and shaved it all off down to skin! :o I was so scared to see them afterward, and my parents were quite shocked. My dad didn't like it but later on my mom said that she actually did like it. :laugh: Your mom might be mad at first, but it's just hair. There's worse things to do.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: AdamMLP on January 03, 2014, 08:15:30 PM
Post by: AdamMLP on January 03, 2014, 08:15:30 PM
There's no age restriction on getting a haircut. Just get it cut and if they ask say you wanted it cut because it'll be cheaper/easier to manage than getting it braided every month.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:16:40 PM
Well my dad said he'd let me get it cut, but I live with my mom thats the thing
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:18:20 PM
Quote from: lxndr on January 03, 2014, 08:15:30 PM
There's no age restriction on getting a haircut. Just get it cut and if they ask say you wanted it cut because it'll be cheaper/easier to manage than getting it braided every month.
That's true, Thats what I was tryng to explain to my dad
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: AdamMLP on January 03, 2014, 08:23:33 PM
Post by: AdamMLP on January 03, 2014, 08:23:33 PM
It's your hair. I dyed mine black once, they weren't happy and it didn't suit me at all, but the world didn't end. You're almost an adult, they've got to get used to the fact that you're growing up and you can't do everything the way they they want you to all the time like you did as a kid. You've got to have your own identity and life too. If you have pocket money or a job say you want to start paying for them yourself and don't think it's practical to have it braided all the time, spin it like it's money management and being responsible, parents like stuff like that.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:27:33 PM
Your right only thing is that I can't cut it until I get a line up or elses it won't look right, Especially being black, Because white guys are natural they don't need line ups
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: DriftingCrow on January 03, 2014, 08:32:41 PM
Post by: DriftingCrow on January 03, 2014, 08:32:41 PM
May I ask what a line-up is? Is that when they even out the hairline?
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
It's most common in African American community with fades, Like a temple fade, Hightop fade or medium low fade, If you look at black guys, It's basically shaping your hairline with a razor, They also get the side burns and the back, It gives it a sharper, More fresher look, After a month or two you have to get another one because it will get messed up. That's why I can't cut my own hair
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Simon on January 03, 2014, 08:45:46 PM
Post by: Simon on January 03, 2014, 08:45:46 PM
If you want a haircut and your dad is on board to pay for it then go get one. Mama might get mad but she'll get over it. Not like she can glue it back on your head, lol.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Bimmer Guy on January 03, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
Post by: Bimmer Guy on January 03, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 08:42:56 PM
It's most common in African American community with fades, Like a temple fade, Hightop fade or medium low fade, If you look at black guys, It's basically shaping your hairline with a razor, They also get the side burns and the back, It gives it a sharper, More fresher look, After a month or two you have to get another one because it will get messed up. That's why I can't cut my own hair
Are you trying to get across that if you get it cut, you will have to figure out a way to get money to get it cut every month? Are you wondering if your mom will still give you the cash since it isn't the cut she wants you to have?
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 03, 2014, 10:37:09 PM
Quote from: Brett on January 03, 2014, 10:32:26 PM
Are you trying to get across that if you get it cut, you will have to figure out a way to get money to get it cut every month? Are you wondering if your mom will still give you the cash since it isn't the cut she wants you to have?
My dad only pays 12 dollars to get his cut, I also have a friend who does lineups and hair cuts, Theirs really no way to get across that anyways besides I want a lineup, My friends have been telling me I should
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Antagonist on January 04, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
Post by: Antagonist on January 04, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
This is just my being impulsive but I say just dive in and go for it. It's hair, it will grow back. This will not injure you in any way. I'm personally kind of confused by people having a fit about hair, more so women being completely attached to it. I shaved my head before coming out with barely any more consideration than, "Huh, I wonder how I'd look bald?". My mother's reaction to it was less calm, I'll say. ;D
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Alexthecat on January 04, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
Post by: Alexthecat on January 04, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
Just get it cut. If your mother freaks out worse that happens you move in with your dad and he will let you do everything she won't. Win win.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
Quote from: Antagonist on January 04, 2014, 11:30:43 AM
This is just my being impulsive but I say just dive in and go for it. It's hair, it will grow back. This will not injure you in any way. I'm personally kind of confused by people having a fit about hair, more so women being completely attached to it. I shaved my head before coming out with barely any more consideration than, "Huh, I wonder how I'd look bald?". My mother's reaction to it was less calm, I'll say. ;D
Well woman who come from christian families, Are taught to not cut their hair because in the bible it says a womans hair is her glory, That's one reason why, But my mom doesn't want me looking like a boy I guess, But I'm becoming an adult and I really am a guy she just doesn't know it. But as I already stated I can't just dive in and do it my self
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: CursedFireDean on January 04, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
Post by: CursedFireDean on January 04, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
Quote from: Alexthecat on January 04, 2014, 11:39:59 AMI'd just like to point out that usually if someone has contact with both parents but lives with one of them all of the time, it's a custody thing. It's not always as simple as moving in with the other parent.
Just get it cut. If your mother freaks out worse that happens you move in with your dad and he will let you do everything she won't. Win win.
Quote from: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:18:20 PMThat's a huge generalization Brandon. There are many Christian families who do NOT teach that as well, so please do not use your family to generalize the entire religion.
Well woman who come from christian families, Are taught to not cut their hair because in the bible it says a womans hair is her glory,
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:43:05 PM
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 04, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
I'd just like to point out that usually if someone has contact with both parents but lives with one of them all of the time, it's a custody thing. It's not always as simple as moving in with the other parent.
That's a huge generalization Brandon. There are many Christian families who do NOT teach that as well, so please do not use your family to generalize the entire religion.
I wasn't trying to make a huge generalization
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
Post by: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
OK let's not start an argument of biblical proportion about a hair cut
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: David27 on January 04, 2014, 12:53:52 PM
Post by: David27 on January 04, 2014, 12:53:52 PM
Do you have 12 dollars of your own? If you do walk or take public transportation to the place. Generally students receive free fare if they present passes/school ID. You mentioned asking your father to take you, which is a good option too. I assume your parents aren't living together and your not 18 yet. I'm unsure of child custody laws, but there might be a way to choose to not stay with your mom. In any case your close to 18, which at that point you can ask your father if you want to move in.
Also be aware of your head shape because some close to the head hair cuts will make you look more feminine.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 01:00:46 PM
Quote from: Trenton on January 04, 2014, 12:53:52 PM
Do you have 12 dollars of your own? If you do walk or take public transportation to the place. Generally students receive free fare if they present passes/school ID. You mentioned asking your father to take you, which is a good option too. I assume your parents aren't living together and your not 18 yet. I'm unsure of child custody laws, but there might be a way to choose to not stay with your mom. In any case your close to 18, which at that point you can ask your father if you want to move in.
Also be aware of your head shape because some close to the head hair cuts will make you look more feminine.
Yes I have twelve dollars of my own, And at 16 in the u.s you can choose what parent you want to live with, And I already know what I'm gonna get, Its gonna make me look more masculine
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 12:18:20 PM
...... in the bible it says a womans hair is her glory, That's one reason why.
I can't help but laugh and laugh at this statement. I've known many women that cut their hair. Some even :o shaved their heads! BURN THE HEATHENS AT THE STAKE! ::)
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:21:15 PM
Well, Brandon is actually right about the view of long hair and women from the Bible. He didn't say he thinks that way but there are some families that do take that stance. I came from such a family. In the church I grew up in females couldn't even wear pants, so yes...while it's not right some subscribe to that way of thinking. The verse he is referring to:
1 Corinthians 11:15 'But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.'
That being said, once I got old enough I still cut my hair when I lived at home and gave my dad that 'whatcha gonna do' look, lol.
1 Corinthians 11:15 'But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.'
That being said, once I got old enough I still cut my hair when I lived at home and gave my dad that 'whatcha gonna do' look, lol.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
But my point is that doesn't matter. I don't care about what some book says and plenty of other people don't either. If a woman wants to cut her hair then she's going to do it. Hell, I run across plenty of women who absolutely hate long hair and they are always asking me why I don't cut it, even in the dog days of summer.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Post by: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 04, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
But my point is that doesn't matter. I don't care about what some book says and plenty of other people don't either.
Again, you're missing the point. He is talking about how his overly religious mother thinks of things and how that relates to his life. To him it does matter because it is making his life a living Hell at this point as he is stuck under her roof. I've been there and it's rough, I feel for him.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
Quote from: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Again, you're missing the point. He is talking about how his overly religious mother thinks of things and how that relates to his life. To him it does matter because it is making his life a living Hell at this point as he is stuck under her roof. I've been there and it's rough, I feel for him.
No I'm not. I've ran across enough religious types to last a lifetime. I am painfully aware of their viewpoints, both right and wrong, skewed and accurate. It's all the same.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Jamie D on January 04, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Post by: Jamie D on January 04, 2014, 02:57:32 PM
Quote from: CursedFireDean on January 04, 2014, 12:35:08 PM
That's a huge generalization Brandon. There are many Christian families who do NOT teach that as well, so please do not use your family to generalize the entire religion.
Brandon was explaining what he has been taught and his Mother's understanding of the following verses:
1 Corinthians 11:13 Judge in yourselves: is it comely that a woman pray unto God uncovered?
11:14 Doth not even nature itself teach you, that, if a man have long hair, it is a shame unto him?
11:15 But if a woman have long hair, it is a glory to her: for her hair is given her for a covering.
That is not a "generalization," but rather, a tenet of the form of the religion she practices. As a practical matter, should Brandon get his hair cut in a male style, he will be going against his Mother's beliefs. It is a difficult situation, as she does not accept him as a guy. I rather think you owe Brandon an apology.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Bimmer Guy on January 04, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
Post by: Bimmer Guy on January 04, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
Quote from: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
OK let's not start an argument of biblical proportion about a hair cut
This made me LOL. Witty. ;D
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: V M on January 04, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Post by: V M on January 04, 2014, 03:45:16 PM
Quote from: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 12:48:22 PM
OK let's not start an argument of biblical proportion about a hair cut
Quote from: Brett on January 04, 2014, 03:03:54 PM
This made me LOL. Witty. ;D
Me too :laugh:
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: AdamMLP on January 04, 2014, 04:41:12 PM
Post by: AdamMLP on January 04, 2014, 04:41:12 PM
Okay, so some people take the bible very literally. Most other people do not. A lot of meaning has been lost through translation as well as through the changing of times, and a vast number of people recognise this. Even if we're taking the bible literally then either way Brandon could be construed as going against the bible, either as a woman who's cut her hair, or as a man who has longer hair. He has to choose whether to take the meaning which improves his life and health, or the meaning which will appease his mother. Seeing as his mother isn't God, or knows the ins and outs of God's teachings or thinkings, then it's down to Brandon whether he cuts his hair or not.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:53:30 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 04, 2014, 02:31:01 PM
But my point is that doesn't matter. I don't care about what some book says and plenty of other people don't either. If a woman wants to cut her hair then she's going to do it. Hell, I run across plenty of women who absolutely hate long hair and they are always asking me why I don't cut it, even in the dog days of summer.
Please don't disrespect the bible, Its not just a book, I'm not saying I agree with it but as simon pointed out it is true, and their are women who still cut their hair, Don't disrespect me or my religion, And that so called book can save you and has alot of good stuff in so don't even go there
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:54:53 PM
Quote from: Simon on January 04, 2014, 02:46:00 PM
Again, you're missing the point. He is talking about how his overly religious mother thinks of things and how that relates to his life. To him it does matter because it is making his life a living Hell at this point as he is stuck under her roof. I've been there and it's rough, I feel for him.
Thank You
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:58:11 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 04:58:11 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 04, 2014, 02:11:02 PM
I can't help but laugh and laugh at this statement. I've known many women that cut their hair. Some even :o shaved their heads! BURN THE HEATHENS AT THE STAKE! ::)
Laugh all you want but it's true, was just stating one possible reason for why spme women may not cut it. Their are some women who don't care and do it anyways
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 05:02:53 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 05:02:53 PM
Well actually you guys that scripture is not the reason my mom doesn't want me to get a haircut ,she wanted me to cut it at one point because its not growing, She just doesn' know how, My mom actually had short hair in highschool, But she ended up growing it back out. The reason she doean't want me to cut is because she doesn't want me looking like a boy.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Post by: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
Quote from: Laura Squirrel on January 04, 2014, 02:53:00 PM
No I'm not. I've ran across enough religious types to last a lifetime. I am painfully aware of their viewpoints, both right and wrong, skewed and accurate. It's all the same.
It's really not, And if your not African American you wouldn't understand. My counselour told me that African American families are way harder on Lgbt and how asome of them are against it, But this is not even the discussion though.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
Post by: Miss_Bungle1991 on January 04, 2014, 05:21:16 PM
Quote from: Brandon on January 04, 2014, 05:08:45 PM
if your not African American you wouldn't understand.
That is absurd and you know it. I don't care what some dude says. Bigotry comes in all colors. Anyone who believes that one group has a monopoly on bigotry is a fool.
Title: Re: Haircuts????
Post by: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 05:41:25 PM
Post by: Cindy on January 04, 2014, 05:41:25 PM
I'm locking this while I reflect on some posts.
I see no reason why religion is being argued in such a way.
Cindy
I see no reason why religion is being argued in such a way.
Cindy