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Title: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
Can I get away with calling myself a girl at my age? :D
Anyway, we planned this trip in the first few weeks after I came outright my partner. Since then I've been out as myself for dinner or a walk around the neighbourhood, but this was my first time for such an extended period of time. Part of me was scared, part of me was wondering whether I would actually like it, but most of me was pretty excited about the 3 days to come.
Anyway, we left on Dec 31 and I travelled in male mode and changed on arrival. We went up to Asakusa to see the temple there, then went and had something to eat before going to a quaintly antiquated amusement park close by for the countdown to 2014 and the fireworks. In retrospect the slightly rough, slightly less 'cosmopolitan' Asakusa was perhaps not such a good choice.
I found at the start that I was very conscious of how I needed to walk and sit and carry my bag, and it seemed there were so many things to keep in mind. I felt like I was double guessing myself and kind of playing a role. This was a bit tiring.
Also, as I'm 6'2" and in a country where the average height for women is 5'2", I'm going to have a bit of trouble blending in. Add to that the ever more obvious beard shadow as time passed, and by 11pm people were beginning to stare, and as the alcohol took its effect on them some men began to point.
This didn't bother me that much, in fact I didn't really notice it, but it upset my partner and she began to cry. We decided to go back to the hotel around this time and regroup. 2014 arrived somewhere between these two places as we rode the metro. We got back to the hotel and went to bed.
I've tried everything but I can't succeed in hiding my beard shadow, so day 2 we decided to go with the surgical mask. We went shopping around Shinjuku, had some lunch (first lamb I've had since my last trip home - yum!), and this was a much more pleasant experience. People in shops and cafes were generally welcoming and friendly, I had no problems using bathrooms or trying on clothes and my confidence began to grow. I found I was thinking less about how to behave and just letting myself go about her business. I felt very free. My partner had also got past the day before and we had a really great afternoon.
I also found a really nice tailored jacket and a dress that almost comes to my knees (lol), so I was pretty happy about that.
After an early evening shave at the hotel we headed out again, this time to the LGBT area of Shinjuku looking for somewhere to drink. We found a gay bar that was open (most weren't), and although I didn't really feel like a part of that culture, and had a couple of guys gently chat me up, it was at least nice to be in a place where people took me for what I am and accepted that.
Day 3 we hit the January sales proper in my new tailored jacket :) Oh, the people around Tokyo station! But by now I was on a roll, and it just felt so good, and so right being a woman there in amongst all of them, going about my business and just being myself. Any sense of consciously playing a role was gone, and I was looking people in the eye, talking to shop assistants, carrying myself with confidence. We finished off with a sushi lunch on the 12th floor at Daimaru, overlooking the imperial palace grounds bathed in beautiful winter sunshine.
Sadly our flight was early afternoon, so that was pretty much the end of that. I got changed, and we both shed a few tears that I had to go back to male mode.
So what did this trip teach me?
First, that I'm comfortable in this role. I don't think I really had any serious doubts, but it is good to have this certainty, and I'm looking forward to the start of HRT more than ever.
Second, that confidence is everything. Stand up straight and look people in the eye and they generally have no doubts about how to treat you. I realise people always say this, but now I've experienced it for myself.
Third, I'm strong enough to deal with the looks I'm going to get. This is probably the most important discovery.
I realize that 3 days and 2 nights is not a whole lot of time when compared to 24/7 full time RLE, but for me it was an important step forward, and a very affirming experience.
I can't wait to go back. In fact, as we still had some air miles left over we booked again for the end of next month. I'm hoping that laser will have given me a bit more help by then.
Anyway, we planned this trip in the first few weeks after I came outright my partner. Since then I've been out as myself for dinner or a walk around the neighbourhood, but this was my first time for such an extended period of time. Part of me was scared, part of me was wondering whether I would actually like it, but most of me was pretty excited about the 3 days to come.
Anyway, we left on Dec 31 and I travelled in male mode and changed on arrival. We went up to Asakusa to see the temple there, then went and had something to eat before going to a quaintly antiquated amusement park close by for the countdown to 2014 and the fireworks. In retrospect the slightly rough, slightly less 'cosmopolitan' Asakusa was perhaps not such a good choice.
I found at the start that I was very conscious of how I needed to walk and sit and carry my bag, and it seemed there were so many things to keep in mind. I felt like I was double guessing myself and kind of playing a role. This was a bit tiring.
Also, as I'm 6'2" and in a country where the average height for women is 5'2", I'm going to have a bit of trouble blending in. Add to that the ever more obvious beard shadow as time passed, and by 11pm people were beginning to stare, and as the alcohol took its effect on them some men began to point.
This didn't bother me that much, in fact I didn't really notice it, but it upset my partner and she began to cry. We decided to go back to the hotel around this time and regroup. 2014 arrived somewhere between these two places as we rode the metro. We got back to the hotel and went to bed.
I've tried everything but I can't succeed in hiding my beard shadow, so day 2 we decided to go with the surgical mask. We went shopping around Shinjuku, had some lunch (first lamb I've had since my last trip home - yum!), and this was a much more pleasant experience. People in shops and cafes were generally welcoming and friendly, I had no problems using bathrooms or trying on clothes and my confidence began to grow. I found I was thinking less about how to behave and just letting myself go about her business. I felt very free. My partner had also got past the day before and we had a really great afternoon.
I also found a really nice tailored jacket and a dress that almost comes to my knees (lol), so I was pretty happy about that.
After an early evening shave at the hotel we headed out again, this time to the LGBT area of Shinjuku looking for somewhere to drink. We found a gay bar that was open (most weren't), and although I didn't really feel like a part of that culture, and had a couple of guys gently chat me up, it was at least nice to be in a place where people took me for what I am and accepted that.
Day 3 we hit the January sales proper in my new tailored jacket :) Oh, the people around Tokyo station! But by now I was on a roll, and it just felt so good, and so right being a woman there in amongst all of them, going about my business and just being myself. Any sense of consciously playing a role was gone, and I was looking people in the eye, talking to shop assistants, carrying myself with confidence. We finished off with a sushi lunch on the 12th floor at Daimaru, overlooking the imperial palace grounds bathed in beautiful winter sunshine.
Sadly our flight was early afternoon, so that was pretty much the end of that. I got changed, and we both shed a few tears that I had to go back to male mode.
So what did this trip teach me?
First, that I'm comfortable in this role. I don't think I really had any serious doubts, but it is good to have this certainty, and I'm looking forward to the start of HRT more than ever.
Second, that confidence is everything. Stand up straight and look people in the eye and they generally have no doubts about how to treat you. I realise people always say this, but now I've experienced it for myself.
Third, I'm strong enough to deal with the looks I'm going to get. This is probably the most important discovery.
I realize that 3 days and 2 nights is not a whole lot of time when compared to 24/7 full time RLE, but for me it was an important step forward, and a very affirming experience.
I can't wait to go back. In fact, as we still had some air miles left over we booked again for the end of next month. I'm hoping that laser will have given me a bit more help by then.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: big kim on January 06, 2014, 03:07:29 AM
Post by: big kim on January 06, 2014, 03:07:29 AM
What a great adventure!I had a heavy beard shadow and used a cover stick blended over the beard area,Leichner Camera Clear foundation and translucent powder which lasted all day.I tried Derma Blend but it was rather expensive and harder to use though I've heard good reports about it
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Ms Grace on January 06, 2014, 04:02:47 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on January 06, 2014, 04:02:47 AM
Quote from: Joan on January 06, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
Second, that confidence is everything. Stand up straight and look people in the eye and they generally have no doubts about how to treat you. I realise people always say this, but now I've experienced it for myself.
A great point.
Sounds like you had a great time. Thanks for sharing, Joan.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Bardoux on January 06, 2014, 04:10:45 AM
Post by: Bardoux on January 06, 2014, 04:10:45 AM
Quote from: Joan on January 06, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
Can I get away with calling myself a girl at my age? :D
Anyway, we planned this trip in the first few weeks after I came outright my partner. Since then I've been out as myself for dinner or a walk around the neighbourhood, but this was my first time for such an extended period of time. Part of me was scared, part of me was wondering whether I would actually like it, but most of me was pretty excited about the 3 days to come.
Anyway, we left on Dec 31 and I travelled in male mode and changed on arrival. We went up to Asakusa to see the temple there, then went and had something to eat before going to a quaintly antiquated amusement park close by for the countdown to 2014 and the fireworks. In retrospect the slightly rough, slightly less 'cosmopolitan' Asakusa was perhaps not such a good choice.
I found at the start that I was very conscious of how I needed to walk and sit and carry my bag, and it seemed there were so many things to keep in mind. I felt like I was double guessing myself and kind of playing a role. This was a bit tiring.
Also, as I'm 6'2" and in a country where the average height for women is 5'2", I'm going to have a bit of trouble blending in. Add to that the ever more obvious beard shadow as time passed, and by 11pm people were beginning to stare, and as the alcohol took its effect on them some men began to point.
This didn't bother me that much, in fact I didn't really notice it, but it upset my partner and she began to cry. We decided to go back to the hotel around this time and regroup. 2014 arrived somewhere between these two places as we rode the metro. We got back to the hotel and went to bed.
I've tried everything but I can't succeed in hiding my beard shadow, so day 2 we decided to go with the surgical mask. We went shopping around Shinjuku, had some lunch (first lamb I've had since my last trip home - yum!), and this was a much more pleasant experience. People in shops and cafes were generally welcoming and friendly, I had no problems using bathrooms or trying on clothes and my confidence began to grow. I found I was thinking less about how to behave and just letting myself go about her business. I felt very free. My partner had also got past the day before and we had a really great afternoon.
I also found a really nice tailored jacket and a dress that almost comes to my knees (lol), so I was pretty happy about that.
After an early evening shave at the hotel we headed out again, this time to the LGBT area of Shinjuku looking for somewhere to drink. We found a gay bar that was open (most weren't), and although I didn't really feel like a part of that culture, and had a couple of guys gently chat me up, it was at least nice to be in a place where people took me for what I am and accepted that.
Day 3 we hit the January sales proper in my new tailored jacket :) Oh, the people around Tokyo station! But by now I was on a roll, and it just felt so good, and so right being a woman there in amongst all of them, going about my business and just being myself. Any sense of consciously playing a role was gone, and I was looking people in the eye, talking to shop assistants, carrying myself with confidence. We finished off with a sushi lunch on the 12th floor at Daimaru, overlooking the imperial palace grounds bathed in beautiful winter sunshine.
Sadly our flight was early afternoon, so that was pretty much the end of that. I got changed, and we both shed a few tears that I had to go back to male mode.
So what did this trip teach me?
First, that I'm comfortable in this role. I don't think I really had any serious doubts, but it is good to have this certainty, and I'm looking forward to the start of HRT more than ever.
Second, that confidence is everything. Stand up straight and look people in the eye and they generally have no doubts about how to treat you. I realise people always say this, but now I've experienced it for myself.
Third, I'm strong enough to deal with the looks I'm going to get. This is probably the most important discovery.
I realize that 3 days and 2 nights is not a whole lot of time when compared to 24/7 full time RLE, but for me it was an important step forward, and a very affirming experience.
I can't wait to go back. In fact, as we still had some air miles left over we booked again for the end of next month. I'm hoping that laser will have given me a bit more help by then.
Thank you for sharing Joan, really put a huge smile on my face :) Glad you had a great time girl.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on January 06, 2014, 04:26:32 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on January 06, 2014, 04:26:32 AM
Really nice story Joan , glad you had fun :)
Actually Id really love to visit japan myself,,,no money though,,,no money :-\
Actually Id really love to visit japan myself,,,no money though,,,no money :-\
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 06:03:05 AM
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 06:03:05 AM
Big Kim, thanks for the tips. I think I'm actually piling on too much stuff. I've got an ever growing pile of sticks and tubes and tubs of stuff, and one day I'm hoping to find a combination that works :)
Grace, thanks for reading. We did have such a good time and I can't wait to do it again :)
Bardoux, I'm glad that you enjoyed it :)
False Princess, I hope you can visit some day. I like your signature and your tag line. They're very apt :)
Grace, thanks for reading. We did have such a good time and I can't wait to do it again :)
Bardoux, I'm glad that you enjoyed it :)
False Princess, I hope you can visit some day. I like your signature and your tag line. They're very apt :)
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: suzifrommd on January 06, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
Post by: suzifrommd on January 06, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
Quote from: Joan on January 06, 2014, 01:55:50 AM
I realize that 3 days and 2 nights is not a whole lot of time when compared to 24/7 full time RLE, but for me it was an important step forward, and a very affirming experience.
It's 2 days and 2 nights longer than the longest time I had spent in girl mode before I went full time.
I'm glad this was a positive experience for you. My experience early in my exploration was similar.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: KabitTarah on January 06, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
Post by: KabitTarah on January 06, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
I'm glad you had a great time in Japan! I love the country, though I've only been for a long weekend years ago and for a short week that involved work for most of the time I was there. I've been craving ramen, again!!
If I spend the $600+ to go to NYC this summer, I will have a similar experience :) I should be close to ready for FT then, so it might be worth the price just for that! It is for a conference for a board game I play.
If I spend the $600+ to go to NYC this summer, I will have a similar experience :) I should be close to ready for FT then, so it might be worth the price just for that! It is for a conference for a board game I play.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 11:57:27 PM
Post by: Joan on January 06, 2014, 11:57:27 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on January 06, 2014, 10:04:46 AM
It's 2 days and 2 nights longer than the longest time I had spent in girl mode before I went full time.
I'm glad this was a positive experience for you. My experience early in my exploration was similar.
Thanks, Suzi. I plan to ease myself in gently with a gradual socialisation as a female. That's the plan anyway :)
Do you mean that things got worse after the initial period, or that the process was more positive than you'd feared?
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 12:00:22 AM
Quote from: KabitTarah on January 06, 2014, 10:11:04 AM
I'm glad you had a great time in Japan! I love the country, though I've only been for a long weekend years ago and for a short week that involved work for most of the time I was there. I've been craving ramen, again!!
If I spend the $600+ to go to NYC this summer, I will have a similar experience :) I should be close to ready for FT then, so it might be worth the price just for that! It is for a conference for a board game I play.
Ramen- yeah! :D I like the tonkotsu version myself :)
I hope you can do the New York trip. I don't dislike the place where I live, but it's always nice to get away to somewhere new and try new stuff.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Jessica Merriman on January 07, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on January 07, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
Very inspiring Joan, thanks! :)
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Cindy on January 07, 2014, 12:51:45 AM
Post by: Cindy on January 07, 2014, 12:51:45 AM
Hi Joan
Nice post, I remember being driven across Tokyo in the rush hour, 4 hours later we got to our destination!
Nice post, I remember being driven across Tokyo in the rush hour, 4 hours later we got to our destination!
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 01:15:54 AM
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 01:15:54 AM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on January 07, 2014, 12:31:16 AM
Very inspiring Joan, thanks! :)
Thanks, Jessica :)
Quote from: Cindy on January 07, 2014, 12:51:45 AM
Hi Joan
Nice post, I remember being driven across Tokyo in the rush hour, 4 hours later we got to our destination!
That's what i was expecting, but I think the new year was a good choice as half the city seemed to have returned to the provinces for the holidays. I had a seat on every ride in the metro :)
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Ms Grace on January 07, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on January 07, 2014, 01:24:51 AM
Ramen...YUM!
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: KabitTarah on January 07, 2014, 04:36:38 AM
Post by: KabitTarah on January 07, 2014, 04:36:38 AM
I like shoyu with pork!!
I have to find an Asian market around here... and attempt to make my own.
I have to find an Asian market around here... and attempt to make my own.
Title: Re: Tokyo trip: what I learned from first extended time in girl mode
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 05:39:45 AM
Post by: Joan on January 07, 2014, 05:39:45 AM
I find some of the instant 'ramen in a bag' things are pretty good these days. Just don't think too much about what's put in them :o
Ah, ramen...all those carbohydrates are not what I need at the moment :D
Ah, ramen...all those carbohydrates are not what I need at the moment :D