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Title: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: ConfusedHumanUK on January 10, 2014, 04:37:49 AM
Not needed anymore :)
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Cindy on January 10, 2014, 04:47:41 AM
Well Honey you have come to the right place!

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Believe it or not most of us have come from a similar place!

I think the UK has a fairly formalized system for gender dysphoric people and some of the UK girls will help you out with specifics, but get onto the site and have a look around.

You are not alone anymore!!

Cindy
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: amber1964 on January 10, 2014, 06:02:43 AM
Not a single thing you said is unique, special or unusual. Generally it is helpful to talk to a therapist but you already indicated that was an issue. An alternative is to find a support group in your area where you can meet others like yourselves. Things are much harder when you are alone and isolated.

If you have the funds you can see a private therapist. That would preserve your confidentiality.

Over time you will come to an understanding of exactly how you feel and what you want to do about it. It is a process that every single one of us has gone through. I was struck by how similar your story is to my own in terms of school and friendships. It just took me a whole lot longer to get where you are now.

Dont worry over everything at once. If you choose to go down the path a lot of the things you are concerned about will resolve themselves over time. I wont lie and say it is easy, but thousands of us have beern exactly where you are right now and ended up living normal contented female lives.

Doing nothing is a bad idea because if you need to change burying things can be very damaging.

Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Surrealism on January 10, 2014, 06:32:53 AM
You seem to remind me so much of myself. Even the part about saying less than 20 words during a school day and being "numb" during times people would expect you to feel sadness. When I see beautiful girls, I feel the same way too. I don't sexualize them, I find myself wanting to be like them, envying them. I wonder about the same things you listed. I have a family likely to reject me in entirety besides my sister (she already knows and is fine with it) and I feel like a short gorilla, ape-like man with no hope in ever being an attractive female.

I'm 20 myself, so we seem to be in the same boat. Just know that you aren't alone, and every day it's hard for me too as well as many others to get up each day and remain optimistic with all the negatives considered. Judging by what I've read on this site from most of my lurking around, a lot of transwomen share the same concerns that we share, and eventually, even if they repress it for a while, the feelings become strong enough to make them take the risk. I'm pretty sure I'm heading the same way. Every day for me gets harder to stay sane as long as I'm physically male.

I can't say if this is good advice since I haven't even started transitioning yet myself, but this is what I'm doing. I'm planning on doing the changes that can help me in the future (like treating my male pattern baldness, losing weight, etc)  with a transition but aren't drawing attention from my family while I'm dependent on them. It's up to you to decide if it's worth the risk to come out to your family while you depend on them or not, I've concluded it isn't for me, but you know your family better than anyone.

Anyways, welcome  :). Sorry I can't be of much help to you since I'm new to all this myself. But yeah, just remember, you aren't suffering alone or feeling these things alone.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Natalia on January 10, 2014, 06:51:05 AM
Welcome to Susan's!

You are not alone and, to tell you the truth, I think most of us here share a similar story.

I am 26 and I have always been the lonely boy that had no friends and was too shy to talk to anyone. I had only a few friends, but it seems we are losing contact now that each one is getting different jobs and plans for their lives.

I wasn't a feminine boy, but I wasn't masculine either. I hated football and sports, I never felt sexual attraction for any girl...it was more like a feeling of "I would like to have her body", I liked to secretly wear clothes from my mother and high heels (I remember doing this since I had around 8 yo), I am very emotive...things go on and on.

I lived my entire life ignoring this, trying to hide my real self. It was only a few months ago that I decided to seek help from a therapist and now I am certain that I should be female.

I would recommend you finding a good therapist. You can also try to do some tests on the internet (COGIATI test can help) but they aren't very accurate sometimes. You really need to seek a therapist to help you determine what is your degree of gender dysphoria...you might be a transgender and hormone therapy can do wonders fro you if this is the case.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Eva Marie on January 10, 2014, 06:51:46 AM
Confused-

Yep, your story sounds quite familiar to me. Pretty much everything you wrote I experienced myself but it happened a much later age. By the time it had fully hit me I was 50 years old and I had a wife and kids and a career to worry about. Just like you I had early signs but I didn't recognize them for what they were at the time.

As Amber said - doing nothing / stuffing your feelings is not the right way to handle this. Your feelings will most likely continue to intensify until you do something.

When a person has this realization therapy is usually the first step to take; a therapist can help you see things as they really are and help you cut through the confusion and get to the heart of the matter. However, I understand your circumstances prevents that. Maybe the therapist can happen later, or you can seek therapy in some way to avoid detection (I live in the U.S so I'm not familiar with the ins and outs of your country's healthcare system).

There are some things that you can still do however. Getting in better physical shape is a good one (that's one that i'm also working on right now and it's free) as well as finding out if there are any trans* support groups in your area (they are usually discreet so no worries about anyone finding out).  You've ALREADY taken the best first step by joining this site! There are LOTs of people here that have been exactly where you are and have gone through the things you are experiencing so keep reading older threads to gain knowledge.

If you have a place to keep such things you can begin to pick up a few pieces for your wardrobe; thrift stores are a good place to begin improving your courage in that area - you WILL NOT be the first gender non-conforming person that they have ever seen, trust me  :) In my early days I remember being terrified to step foot in a thrift store for women's clothes but now I just shop wherever I want to.

This journey is a tough one no doubt. Take each day as it comes and deal with only today's problems and don't worry about tomorrow - you can worry about tomorrow's problems tomorrow. On this journey you will experience very hard things and difficulties, but you will also experience unexpected great things - one of them is gaining a much better understanding of yourself as a person. I'm catching glimpses of the "other side" and I like what I see over there. I hope to see you posting more on the board in the future!  :)

~Eva
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Joan on January 10, 2014, 06:56:53 AM
You remind me of myself too, except you've found the courage to begin accepting these feelings 20 years earlier than I did.

And yes those concerns are basically the same ones I was wondering about myself.

I only registered here 3 months ago after lurking for for several months before that, but there are so many nice people here who understand where we are.

I wish you all the best in helping to find a place where you can be comfortable.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: amber1964 on January 10, 2014, 08:09:42 AM
Keep posting and begin finding useful things you can do to make some small steps. You may laugh, but I envy you, realising and having the chance to change when you are so young. I waited until I was 50. Everything works so much better and is so much easier at your age. You cant be any bigger than I was 220 plus pounds, now three years later im barely 110.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: FinallyMe84 on January 10, 2014, 09:33:39 AM
Yes, in the beginning it is ALL about small steps. Find what you can do right away and try to make a plan for what you would like to accomplish. Definitely explore the site and don't be afraid to ask questions.  we are all individuals, but transition/questioning is not easy for any of us. Glad you're here, hope to see you around the site!

Jessica
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Natalia on January 10, 2014, 10:05:52 AM
Quote from: ConfusedHumanUK on January 10, 2014, 09:36:34 AM
Could I ask, what sort of feelings and emotions did others that had that 'boom' moment go through?

When I first realized I am a transgender I felt incredible relieved...it was like a button clicked and everything became clear and transparent. It is now so obvious, but it was so hard to get the clues together.

I am still gathering courage to tell my mother...and I feel terribly anxious and nervous all the time. I wish I could tell her at once, but I should go with small steps...it is what I am doing, showing small clues that I am tansgender...I am trying to show more clearly how feminine my mind is.

I also feel fear all the time...I don't know if I am making the right choice...actually I don't fear for myself, because I know I am female inside. If I did not have a family I would already be female, but what I fear the most is how my mother will treat me after I tell her that her son will become her daughter...

Besides that I also feel quite happy to feel my body and mind working in syntony...I feel like I have lived my entire life trying to be what was expected of me...but then I woke up and realized that was not me...it makes me sad about realizing I lost all the joys of growing as a woman, but it makes me happy because from now on I will live the way I am supposed to be.

So, it is actually a huge mix of different emotions and feelings.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Gina Taylor on January 10, 2014, 10:58:44 AM
Hi Natalia and welcome to Susan's.  :)

I'm really glad to see that you've already jumped in and have been posting!  :)

I'm sure that in no time you'll get to meet and know a lot of your new brothers and sisters!  :)
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Chaos on January 10, 2014, 03:13:27 PM
I suggest you read my blogs entitled 'Personal Life' and you will realize beyond a doubt that you are not alone.many live and feel the same way but some (like myself) feel they had even an higher power intervene.some had a very poor life,a lot of pain and a lot of loss but they got here and have no regrets.Welcome to the forums and remember,no matter what road you take,if its rocky or flowing hills-we all get to the top.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: GendrKweer on January 10, 2014, 03:37:21 PM
Put all the thought into this as you need, get a counselor to talk with, get your head together, because of all of us on this forum--whether we are 50, 40, 30 or even 20, we can pretty much all agree: we wish we had started our respective roads sooner. Don't delay because you're scared of the answer. Dysphoria rarely (if ever) goes away. Good luck!
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Jamie D on January 10, 2014, 10:29:21 PM
Quote from: ConfusedHumanUK on January 10, 2014, 09:36:34 AM
Hi all,

Firstly, a massive, MASSIVE thank you. I really expected I'd get some pretty cold responses telling me to bugger off.  I think what's most reassuring is that despite what I thought, I'm not 'unique' and cut off from the world.

After posting this morning, I actually ended up having a very long talk with my sister - something we never do. She herself went through a pretty emotional time a few years back and I was able to slightly open up about how I've never felt I have the right personality, without revealing anything.

I think I need to take a few days to come to grips with everything as my brain's just completely spinning right now, not really knowing what the heck's going on. I've had this horrible anxious feeling all day driving me crazy. Could I ask, what sort of feelings and emotions did others that had that 'boom' moment go through?

Bugger off?  Nah!  You are among friends here.  :)

When I began to put two and two together, it sort of all made sense.  The emotion for me was relief.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Cindy on January 11, 2014, 04:15:53 AM
Honey it is a natural reaction.

You are among family now and we all understand what you have gone through and are going through.

Have a good cry and feel at home.

You are safe here

Cindy
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Cindy on January 11, 2014, 04:42:32 AM
Many of us know that feeling so well.

What triggers it changes for all of us and we have to be able to accept it.

There is nothing wrong with us, we are normal human beings who didn't get the right switches at the right times in our fetal development.

Soon you will start thinking of how to move forward because we all know that once we start this path we cannot stop. I and many others tried so hard to be what society thought we were. We hide in a shroud of fear that conceals us from our life.

But one day we peek out, and realise that we are also people.

The we begin to live.

And I can assure you, life is wonderful.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: amber1964 on January 11, 2014, 05:13:35 AM
Hunny, there is absolutely nothing wrong with yoy. Crying is a normal thing to do. As a man you are taught that crying is not manly. Im afraid the bad news is that you arent one. So the cork just popped off the champagne and out it comes. It happened to me. Its a very overwhelming feeling.

Just wait until you start hormones. I recomment buying waterproof eyeliner and mascara. Your gonna need it.

Life isnt ending, its just beginning.

I always describe it as a bell went off and the race started. I wont sugar coat things and say its easy, its not, but truly you have the chance for joy which I think is quite a few levels up the food chain from numb. Numb sucks, I kept myself there for 25 or 30 years with a horrid combination of alcohol and drugs. Im clean now, some time, I dont need them anymore. One day I just stopped, no drama, no nothing, just didnt want to be numb anymore.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Natalia on January 11, 2014, 07:19:23 AM
It is a good thing to cry. You will feel better if you let it all go...

I always cried, alone or close to my family. They all know I am a crying baby ^^ Somehow I feel better when I don't hold my tears.

We are taught that we should not cry, but we are human beings! We have emotions and fears and crying is a normal thing that shouldn't be discouraged.

We all know about what you are passing through. We all share the same feelings. There is a day on our lives when we all ask the same questions and we start wondering if we are ourselves or if we have become what was expected of us. For some (like me) it is a relief to find out what was wrong with you, to finaly open your eyes and see the right path.

The tough part is taking the first steps, but you already took one very important step (if not the most important), that is figuring out and coming here on Susan's! You are not alone here and being transgender is far more common than you might think. It is a beautiful thing too and it is a nice path to go in.

Embrace your femininty. Be yourself. Don't fear being who you are.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: GendrKweer on January 13, 2014, 07:48:11 AM
Of course you know that you don't have to do anything all at once? Talking to a therapist, getting in shape (I think I recall an earlier post mentioning that you wanted to), getting some androgynous clothing... these are all tiny steps you can take without much risk. Even starting a hormone regimen is something you can take one day at a time, and stop any time you want. The effect of the hormones are reversible up to about four months I'd say, meaning if you stop taking them, especially if they were low dose, then you shouldn't have any ill effects. They take YEARS to really work physically, but do provide a lot of emotional/hormonal relief fairly immediately, meaning you can tell if "they're for you" mentally, you know? Doctor's supervision please, of course. Transitioning is a very very long, very expensive thing. But because it cannot happen overnight, you have room to look around before you make things permanent. Being here is a good step too...
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: amber1964 on January 13, 2014, 11:36:02 AM
Sometimes people are reluctant to go to a therapist because they think its for those who have mental problems. But an experienced gender therapist works a little different. They can help you sort through your feelings and once you have that part be able to give you practical advice and how to access the care and support you need. It helps avoid a lot of mistakes and wasted time stressing.

My therapist is a truly lovely trans man. He was invaluable to me.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Natalia on January 14, 2014, 03:46:26 AM
I think know what you mean.

I feel almost completely female, but as I have grow as a boy, I also have masculine traits and some are not unwanted. I think there is no problem about being a woman with some masculinity. I just don't want to be a feminine boy or keep trying to live as a masculine boy anymore. Anyway, I doubt there are many girls out here that are 100% feminine. There is not such a thing.

I hope things go well with your mom. I am trying to figure out how to tell mine. There are days where I feel so anxious that I almost end telling her...just be cautious and perhaps you might give a look on the forum section coming out of the closet.

I'm only one year older than you and I am also almost all the time inside my home, behind my computer screen...I almost never go out and when I do I don't feel too confortable around other people. There is something wrong because we shouldn't be this way. We need to learn how to enjoy life and get out of this shell. I am sure you'll solve this with your mom.

Good luck!
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Cindy on January 14, 2014, 04:07:01 AM
Oh I'm so jealous!

I fought the rearguard until I was 59.

If only.................

Go for it girls, take control of your lives and live as you deserve.

Happy women with a life of fun and joy
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: GendrKweer on January 14, 2014, 10:06:41 AM
You also realize you can stay androgynous for longer than you think, or even insist on it consciously permanently. It's called, well, genderqueer, or gender->-bleeped-<- ...do some searches on google; it might be a good transition for your transition as it were, or perhaps your end desire even...
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: musicofthenight on January 14, 2014, 11:24:31 AM
Quote from: ConfusedHumanUK on January 11, 2014, 11:27:03 AM
I've already started getting family on my back for 'looking upset' wanting to know why I wasn't hungry, or talking, etc.

...

I've had to do this. I can already feel myself trying to cover this all up, looking for an exit.

This actually explains a lot, and it's something I struggle with too.

When the people close to you, the people you love and respect, are not the kind of people you feel you can trust with your fear, your frustration, your regret, or your sadness, it becomes awfully painful to feel those things.

That's why I try so hard not to.  And I'm so used to burying those feelings that now I even hide them from myself.

And the really tragic part of this is it isn't usually fueled by malice.  Sure, it could be and kids of abusive parents really struggle with this particular problem.  But more often family members mean well.  They don't want you to hurt, ever.  And you get stuck without a good way to say, "No, sometimes I need to be confused and scared and sad and not know exactly why or how to fix it.  And I need you to wait until I'm ready for help before jumping in."

So, you have to say it.


And also, I think listing for yourself the parts you do know, even though they're not everything, is a very good strategy.


Best of luck.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: GendrKweer on January 14, 2014, 03:27:21 PM
As regards RLE, I'm here to tell you that's been changed. The new guidelines allow therapists certainly but even SRS surgeons to perform without real life experience if you have a good reason. In my case, I got an exemption because where I lived at the time (think behind the iron curtain) made it extremely dangerous for me if there was even a few % chance of being outed. But as a therapy for a legitimate disorder (gender dysphoria), I needed the treatment up to and including SRS. SO the therapist will be able to prescribe HRT without any RLE, guaranteed. Just go and talk to them, ask a bunch of questions, and you might be surprised how much better you feel... :)
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: amber1964 on January 14, 2014, 07:11:04 PM
Just go, its nothing. Dont think so much. Lighten up a little, life isnt ending, its starting.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Joan on January 14, 2014, 09:08:55 PM
Quote from: ConfusedHumanUK on January 14, 2014, 11:32:43 AM

My biggest issue is that there is zero chance in hell that I could step outside as a girl, without first having started HRT. Which is a bit of a problem right there given that from what I understand, the NHS require something like 1 year of RLE before they will consider starting HRT, which frankly seems idiotic :/


You might be surprised at what you can actually. I went from 'what if they don't think I'm a woman?' to 'so what if they think I'm not a woman?' to 'Taht person saw me as a woman!' in a fairly short space of time. And I am large and overweight and I struggle to cover my beard, and have been on HRT for exactly 5 days. Most people don't care much one way or the other anyway.

If you go out and it feels right, then after that it doesn't seem to matter so much. I never ever thought I'd be able to god out the door in a skirt, but now it just feels normal.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Phoenix_2812 on January 15, 2014, 12:48:28 AM
ConfusedHumanUK, I think you and I are quite alike, apart from our ages, I'm 5 years older, but I've experienced pretty much everything you've said so far. I'm also in the UK, the south, to be precise. I've been thinking for some time now that I really ought to start talking to a gender therapist. I worry that I might not come across as feminine enough to be considered for HRT, which would be a MAJOR downer. I mean, people on this forum have said countless times that "only you can tell if you are transgendered or not", or something to that effect, but it really annoys me that we have to jump through all these silly little hoops just to get things going anywhere.

I think my earliest memory of my life being different to all the other boys was when I was 6, that would have been 1989. I was living in a foster home and for some reason, I thought my dressing gown would make a good skirt. So I took the waist tie and tied it round my waist and then put the dressing gown under and over it and straightened it out to make it look neat and tidy. I seem to remember having one eye on what i was doing and the other on my bedroom door. ;) I was terrified at the idea of someone walking in and seeing me dressed up as a woman. I'm certain that if I was caught, I'd have been made to go to school like that!! The people I lived with at that time were pretty strict and I knew this was something I had to keep to myself, at least until the time was right. In the last couple of years, I've thought about telling my mum and/or my sister about how I've been feeling, but there is a part of me that worries that they wont understand or believe me. My sister is 2 years older than me and she has kids of her own and I worry that if all this comes out one day, what affect will it have on them?! I'm one of these people who thinks a hell of a lot about other people's feelings before expressing my own. It's served me well up to now, but something still isn't right.

I hope one day that I will overcome the fear inside and just say "to hell with it", but until then, it is my burden to carry. It is difficult to judge other people's reactions sometimes. You have to decide who to tell and what to tell them. Telling the wrong person can muddy the waters and disrupt friendships/family, so one has to be really careful. I feel my time is quickly approaching. Part of that is due to this feeling I have that tells me that this life can't possibly go on. I get suicidal thoughts from time to time and I can't tell if it's to do with me being unemployed or me having problems with how I see myself. One thing IS certain, I see myself as u-g-l-y. So much so, that I avoid mirrors and reflections like the plague.

I truly hope all goes well with you and your mum. It does kind of make sense telling her first, doesn't it? :) Just be honest, not just to her, but yourself. If this is trully what you want, it will feel right.

Take care and all the best.
Title: Re: I think I've finally figured it out. But now I'm crapping myself!
Post by: Phoenix_2812 on January 15, 2014, 06:17:51 AM
I was the same. I was pretty much a hermit, still am, actually. Football was probably, and still is, my least favourite sport of all time. I've often had that feeling that I liked a girl or woman for reasons OTHER than sexually. In fact, I don't think I've ever felt sexual feelings towards either in the past. I'm what some, or most, would call a virgin. It's not something that bothers me, not one bit. Having "those" feelings towards a girl or woman has always felt wrong. Then again, I don't feel that way about boys or men. I have noticed a more feminine feeling while around men, one that I can only describe as atraction, but I could never see myself having a relationship, other than family, with a man. At one point in my journey of discovery, I looked at sexuallity and after looking really deep, I came to the conclusion that I might actually be a-sexual, because there isn't any real feeling beyond atraction towards either sex/gender. As for wanting to be a woman, it's not something I've really ever thought of, either. I've just known for some time, deep down inside, that something was wrong with how I felt while around other people. Some say they feel like an alien sometimes because they feel like they don't fit in. That's what it's been like for me for most of my life.

Fuzzy just about sums it up. ;) It also sums up how I see my future in my current form. My future as a woman, on the other hand, looks less bleak and more focused. I often feel like I'm holding back, for some reason. I'm supressing my inner self and it's making me feel depressed/really unhappy and taking up a lot of energy that could really be put to better use. I really want to express my other side, but it just wouldn't look right in this body. :(