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Title: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 12:32:40 PM
After fully accepting myself I noticed that how I perceive other women has changed, has anyone else been through that change of perceptions?
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:39:27 PM
Post by: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:39:27 PM
I've always felt closer to woman. HRT has given me the gift of having the essential ingredient that's common to all females the major component of the hormone running through my blood.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
I must clarify, I mean visually perceive them.
I've started to look at them as if I'm one of them, and for the first time ever have it feel right.
I've started to look at them as if I'm one of them, and for the first time ever have it feel right.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Post by: stephaniec on February 21, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 12:51:56 PMI look more at hair style and clothes now
I must clarify, I mean visually perceive them.
I've started to look at them as if I'm one of them, and for the first time ever have it feel right.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 21, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 21, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Ι always looked at other women...when I was out it was my hobby ... I admire them maybe a little too much, I also feel jealous of them ,hope that will cease when Im done with transition...
and yes I check their clothes , hair , make up....did I mentioned I admire them? cause I do , a lot...
and yes I check their clothes , hair , make up....did I mentioned I admire them? cause I do , a lot...
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: ath on February 21, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Post by: ath on February 21, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 21, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Ι always looked at other women...when I was out it was my hobbie ... I admire them maybe a little too much, I also feel jealous of them ,hope that will cease when Im done with transition...
and yes I check their clothes , hair , make up....did I mentioned I admire them? cause I do , a lot...
Pretty much the same thing here. Whenever I see a woman who looks particularly good or has some really nice features, I always think about how much I wish I had those features. Strong feelings of jealousy sometimes.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: sad panda on February 21, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
Post by: sad panda on February 21, 2014, 01:22:40 PM
Nope though I did start getting treated differently immediately so I felt a little like, psychically closer to other girls. As a gay guy it's sorta different, it's like you have to become your sexuality more than yourself and you are always kinda a token
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 21, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 21, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
Quote from: ath on February 21, 2014, 01:13:23 PM
Pretty much the same thing here. Whenever I see a woman who looks particularly good or has some really nice features, I always think about how much I wish I had those features. Strong feelings of jealousy sometimes.
lol the worst is when I go for laser....the clinic I go is full of amazingly pretty girls,,,and im just sitting there , wondering why I wasnt born like them 😕
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: sad panda on February 21, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Post by: sad panda on February 21, 2014, 01:27:26 PM
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 21, 2014, 01:23:50 PM
lol the worst is when I go for laser....the clinic I go is full of amazingly pretty girls,,,and im just sitting there , wondering why I wasnt born like them :/
Pretty is a full time job, nobody's born that way. Everyone has problems
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Post by: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Before full acceptance I didn't understand all of the things females do to look good, hair,makeup, clothing etc, all I knew is that I had an unexplainable attraction to everything female, confused alot of it for a different type of attraction, T confusing the whole process.
But now I completely understand and want to do all of that myself.
But now I completely understand and want to do all of that myself.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Zoe Louise Taylor on February 21, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
Post by: Zoe Louise Taylor on February 21, 2014, 01:40:11 PM
I definetely see women more as freinds now! and see myself as just one of the girls!!!!
Ive always looked at what women wear and how they present themselves! And ave always been jelous of women1 That jelousy has risen so much since i started living full time! as i feel im more aware that until i start hormones, im not gonna be anywhere near as feminine as a natural woman!!!! 🙁 and that makes we want hormones sooo much! 😕 x
Ive always looked at what women wear and how they present themselves! And ave always been jelous of women1 That jelousy has risen so much since i started living full time! as i feel im more aware that until i start hormones, im not gonna be anywhere near as feminine as a natural woman!!!! 🙁 and that makes we want hormones sooo much! 😕 x
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Alaia on February 21, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
Post by: Alaia on February 21, 2014, 01:58:46 PM
Honestly, I can't wait to be presenting as female so I can interact with women without the tension of them thinking I'm coming on to them or ogling them. I'd like to be able to freely compliment them on the different elements of their outfit or their hair and have it been seen as just that, a friendly compliment. As it is now, I can't even give a woman's outfit more than a cursory glance without thinking they will be accusing me of checking them out. They never vocally say it, and it may be all mostly in my head. But I can't help but feel that I'm perceived as an icky creep at times when all I'm doing is admiring a well put together woman, or a moment that is beautiful in itself.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Emi on February 23, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
Post by: Emi on February 23, 2014, 04:01:24 PM
Quote from: FalsePrincess on February 21, 2014, 12:58:11 PM
Ι always looked at other women...when I was out it was my hobby ... I admire them maybe a little too much, I also feel jealous of them ,hope that will cease when Im done with transition...
and yes I check their clothes , hair , make up....did I mentioned I admire them? cause I do , a lot...
It's exactly the same for me :s
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Jessica Merriman on February 23, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on February 23, 2014, 04:04:15 PM
It didn't change mine at all in fact defending them like I did from the Alpha's I thought would always out me. I have always thought of the as kindred spirits. 🙂
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Late bloomer on February 23, 2014, 04:43:32 PM
Post by: Late bloomer on February 23, 2014, 04:43:32 PM
It made me look at other women as if I had always been one. Before, I misread or didn't recognize any of the signs they were giving me. Why? Because the wall I had built around me kept me in the dark. A whole range of personalities suddenly appear out of a fog. Big change.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on February 23, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
Post by: Jane's Sweet Refrain on February 23, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
The way I perceive women changed on a physical level. About four months into hrt (and well before I was full-time), I noticed a real change in how I experienced a woman who was near or next to me. I'm right at 5'8' and at that time around 150 (140 now, yay). For the first time, I began perceiving most women as basically the same physical size as me. I had not realized it before that time, but under the influence of the typical male hormonal complex, I thought of women who were the same size as smaller than me. I'm not sure what happened to change this perception, but it's been there ever since. How delightful to to intensify the general feeling I had that I was one of them. Has this happened to others?
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: katiej on February 24, 2014, 12:48:12 AM
Post by: katiej on February 24, 2014, 12:48:12 AM
That's interesting about perceiving the relative size of other women. I can definitely say that I'm really glad I'm 5'8". At times I wished I was taller...it really does make a difference in the guy hierarchy. But now, I'm exactly the right height...slightly tall-ish for a girl.
I totally get this. After coming out to myself I went into full research mode. Watching other women is now about figuring them out -- movement, behavior, fashion, makeup, shoes. And I have totally turned into a little fashionista, and I can't wait till I'm full time and get to wear fun clothes every day!! 🙂
Quote from: Olivia P on February 21, 2014, 01:33:11 PM
Before full acceptance I didn't understand all of the things females do to look good, hair,makeup, clothing etc, all I knew is that I had an unexplainable attraction to everything female, confused a lot of it for a different type of attraction, T confusing the whole process.
But now I completely understand and want to do all of that myself.
I totally get this. After coming out to myself I went into full research mode. Watching other women is now about figuring them out -- movement, behavior, fashion, makeup, shoes. And I have totally turned into a little fashionista, and I can't wait till I'm full time and get to wear fun clothes every day!! 🙂
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: ath on February 24, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Post by: ath on February 24, 2014, 01:10:11 AM
Quote from: katiej on February 24, 2014, 12:48:12 AM
That's interesting about perceiving the relative size of other women. I can definitely say that I'm really glad I'm 5'8". At times I wished I was taller...it really does make a difference in the guy hierarchy. But now, I'm exactly the right height...slightly tall-ish for a girl.
I'm 6' and my sister is about a half inch shorter than me. Because of this I don't feel bad about my height at all - same with my face, nose, foot size, hand size, etc. It's pretty much the same as she has going on. There are genetic females who are taller than a lot of us, and all that other stuff too.
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 24, 2014, 01:19:25 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on February 24, 2014, 01:19:25 AM
Quote from: Jane's Sweet Refrain on February 23, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
The way I perceive women changed on a physical level. About four months into hrt (and well before I was full-time), I noticed a real change in how I experienced a woman who was near or next to me. I'm right at 5'8' and at that time around 150 (140 now, yay). For the first time, I began perceiving most women as basically the same physical size as me. I had not realized it before that time, but under the influence of the typical male hormonal complex, I thought of women who were the same size as smaller than me. I'm not sure what happened to change this perception, but it's been there ever since. How delightful to to intensify the general feeling I had that I was one of them. Has this happened to others?
Im really looking forward to that...
Title: Re: Did accepting yourself change how you perceive other women?
Post by: sad panda on February 25, 2014, 01:49:50 AM
Post by: sad panda on February 25, 2014, 01:49:50 AM
Quote from: Jane's Sweet Refrain on February 23, 2014, 06:06:34 PM
The way I perceive women changed on a physical level. About four months into hrt (and well before I was full-time), I noticed a real change in how I experienced a woman who was near or next to me. I'm right at 5'8' and at that time around 150 (140 now, yay). For the first time, I began perceiving most women as basically the same physical size as me. I had not realized it before that time, but under the influence of the typical male hormonal complex, I thought of women who were the same size as smaller than me. I'm not sure what happened to change this perception, but it's been there ever since. How delightful to to intensify the general feeling I had that I was one of them. Has this happened to others?
that's strange. I actually have BDD but I never had this. I'm completely average sized for women, but living as a boy i did not feel bigger or anything, I was used to girls being taller or broader than me a lot, and guys, wrell goes without saying, I don't think I ever met a grown man smaller than me lol. Especially people having longer legs, man, my legs are so short ;O;
I remember my cis friend once told me she thought i was soooo small. I was actually only an inch shorter than her but she thought I was way shorter. Not sure how that happens....
What I do get though is never being able to see what I honestly look like, sometimes I look disfigured in the mirror, sometimes really pretty, changes every day but always feels real...... ugh.... :c