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Title: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Diane on July 14, 2007, 08:09:29 PM
Post by: Diane on July 14, 2007, 08:09:29 PM
After reading many of the threads on these boards, i am curios to know. Why do so many of the people that visit these boards so freqently, that don't consider themselves trangendered or transsexual, spend so much time here?
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: sketchy-kun on July 14, 2007, 09:45:06 PM
Post by: sketchy-kun on July 14, 2007, 09:45:06 PM
i think ppl who don't consider themselves transgender or transsexual vist boards like these so much outta curiousity or because they have nothing better to do....... *shrug* that's what i would think ;D
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 14, 2007, 10:27:02 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 14, 2007, 10:27:02 PM
Are you talking about any specific part of the forums?
Most everybody that I know of except Significant Others are TS or TG.
Have you noticed many non trans posters?
Just asking,
Rebis (TG --> androgyne)
Most everybody that I know of except Significant Others are TS or TG.
Have you noticed many non trans posters?
Just asking,
Rebis (TG --> androgyne)
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: katia on July 14, 2007, 11:05:07 PM
Post by: katia on July 14, 2007, 11:05:07 PM
Quote from: dianeAfter reading many of the threads on these boards, i am curios to know. Why do so many of the people that visit these boards so freqently, that don't consider themselves trangendered or transsexual, spend so much time here?
why don't you ask them directly?
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 15, 2007, 11:01:01 AM
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 15, 2007, 11:01:01 AM
Quote from: Katia on July 14, 2007, 11:05:07 PMQuote from: dianeAfter reading many of the threads on these boards, i am curios to know. Why do so many of the people that visit these boards so freqently, that don't consider themselves trangendered or transsexual, spend so much time here?
why don't you ask them directly?
duhhh. That suggestion didn't even occur to me. :-\
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: nathan on July 20, 2007, 10:48:37 PM
Post by: nathan on July 20, 2007, 10:48:37 PM
Hi Diane! I'm not TS, but do identify androgyne. From my short time here, it's been a really eye-opening experience learning about TS people and what they go through in transition. Really helped me dismiss some silly prejudices I've held towards trans people.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Karla B on July 21, 2007, 12:30:39 AM
Post by: Karla B on July 21, 2007, 12:30:39 AM
Well Diane! I'm not sure of which of the two I consider myself being. I definitely Know that I'm one of the two. That's all that counts for now, In time,the rest will become clearer .
So for now I'll read and post in both forums. ;)
Hope this helps?
P.S I'm also here to learn more about myself by reading about other peoples experiences,Thoughts and Ideas.
So for now I'll read and post in both forums. ;)
Hope this helps?
P.S I'm also here to learn more about myself by reading about other peoples experiences,Thoughts and Ideas.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 08:32:16 AM
Post by: Rachael on July 21, 2007, 08:32:16 AM
i am is, m2f transitioning, but i dont identify as transexual even if i was, i used to be transgender,when i was a girl in a boys shell, now im not, so whats trans?
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: saraswatidevi on July 24, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
Post by: saraswatidevi on July 24, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
I am one of those people you refer to. I am not TS or TG or an SO or Androgyne. I spend a lot of time at Susans. A couple of hours each day reading old posts. I am sorry to tell you that I don't know why. I have couple of guesses. Number 1: There is something very compelling about people who have to work so hard to make their outsides conform to their insides.
Number 2: I also knew someone who transitioned about 15 years ago. I am embarrassed to admit that I couldn't understand why someone would want to be a woman so ugly. Also, she hooked up with another woman and I wondered "Why bother?" She did tell me "It isn't about the sex." and I kind of understood. My view of her could be colored by the fact that she borrowed and stole a complete set of new clothes with the tags still on and my only set of gown up lady underwear. I don't hold this against all TSs. Since that time I have encountered a couple of MTFs that I considered more girly than myself and I really felt for their situation.
So the bottom line is that I don't know why I hang here so much. Except that I like the people very much and it is the source for the best girl talk I know.
Number 2: I also knew someone who transitioned about 15 years ago. I am embarrassed to admit that I couldn't understand why someone would want to be a woman so ugly. Also, she hooked up with another woman and I wondered "Why bother?" She did tell me "It isn't about the sex." and I kind of understood. My view of her could be colored by the fact that she borrowed and stole a complete set of new clothes with the tags still on and my only set of gown up lady underwear. I don't hold this against all TSs. Since that time I have encountered a couple of MTFs that I considered more girly than myself and I really felt for their situation.
So the bottom line is that I don't know why I hang here so much. Except that I like the people very much and it is the source for the best girl talk I know.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 24, 2007, 08:38:26 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on July 24, 2007, 08:38:26 PM
Quote from: saraswatidevi on July 24, 2007, 08:17:46 PM
I am one of those people you refer to. I am not TS or TG or an SO or Androgyne. I spend a lot of time at Susans. A couple of hours each day reading old posts. I am sorry to tell you that I don't know why. I have couple of guesses. Number 1: There is something very compelling about people who have to work so hard to make their outsides conform to their insides.
Number 2: I also knew someone who transitioned about 15 years ago. I am embarrassed to admit that I couldn't understand why someone would want to be a woman so ugly. Also, she hooked up with another woman and I wondered "Why bother?" She did tell me "It isn't about the sex." and I kind of understood. My view of her could be colored by the fact that she borrowed and stole a complete set of new clothes with the tags still on and my only set of gown up lady underwear. I don't hold this against all TSs. Since that time I have encountered a couple of MTFs that I considered more girly than myself and I really felt for their situation.
So the bottom line is that I don't know why I hang here so much. Except that I like the people very much and it is the source for the best girl talk I know.
You like us because we are beautiful people with beautiful souls :laugh:
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: saraswatidevi on July 24, 2007, 08:46:58 PM
Post by: saraswatidevi on July 24, 2007, 08:46:58 PM
QuoteYou like us because we are beautiful people with beautiful souls
Absolutely!
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: gween on July 24, 2007, 08:58:23 PM
Post by: gween on July 24, 2007, 08:58:23 PM
i just wont to be me, i think i have always felt like i was a girl even if i did manly thing ,i am a marine i had sex with a girl early but i fill im not gay but im stright and i want to be with a man as a women ,so it is up to every person to figure out on there own. good luck to all of you and me im just started but im finlley ok with it
gween
gween
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Wendy on July 24, 2007, 11:53:05 PM
Post by: Wendy on July 24, 2007, 11:53:05 PM
Quote from: Diane on July 14, 2007, 08:09:29 PM
After reading many of the threads on these boards, i am curios to know. Why do so many of the people that visit these boards so freqently, that don't consider themselves trangendered or transsexual, spend so much time here?
Diane some people are very scared and have hidden things for so long that it is not easy to open up.
They may be surprised when people do not laugh at their threads and then try to help them. Over time they may start to heal and/or make better decisions in real life.
Do you happen to know a lot of these people that come here and have no genders issues?
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Thundra on July 25, 2007, 01:33:57 AM
Post by: Thundra on July 25, 2007, 01:33:57 AM
I started coming here because of a great friend.
I left after she passed away, but I came back initially because they do such a great job of keeping up with current events here. [I used to subscribe to PlanetOut, but I get everything here sooner, and everyone here is a font of knowledge.]
I have my own issues to be sure, as you will see posted here, but I guess that I hang around here because I enjoy it. The people are intelligent, engaging, and I have fun here. It's a nice change from many places on the net these days.
In the interim, once in a while, someone here teaches me something, and sometimes, I them.
In fact, the people here have taught me a great deal about a lot of things. Especially, what it is like to be a man or women that is neither TG or TS. :laugh: I hope that I have taught them in turn, that it is more important for people to respect the basic dignity of your humanity, than it is to chase after a gender role.
Some have touched my heart enough for me to consider them family, or friends, even though we have never met. And some like me even though I am a curmudgeon.
I don't think Susan built this site for TG or TS people. I think she built it for all of us to see how alike we all are, regardless of what shingle we hang on our door.
I left after she passed away, but I came back initially because they do such a great job of keeping up with current events here. [I used to subscribe to PlanetOut, but I get everything here sooner, and everyone here is a font of knowledge.]
I have my own issues to be sure, as you will see posted here, but I guess that I hang around here because I enjoy it. The people are intelligent, engaging, and I have fun here. It's a nice change from many places on the net these days.
In the interim, once in a while, someone here teaches me something, and sometimes, I them.
In fact, the people here have taught me a great deal about a lot of things. Especially, what it is like to be a man or women that is neither TG or TS. :laugh: I hope that I have taught them in turn, that it is more important for people to respect the basic dignity of your humanity, than it is to chase after a gender role.
Some have touched my heart enough for me to consider them family, or friends, even though we have never met. And some like me even though I am a curmudgeon.
I don't think Susan built this site for TG or TS people. I think she built it for all of us to see how alike we all are, regardless of what shingle we hang on our door.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: TreeFlower on July 25, 2007, 03:41:11 PM
Post by: TreeFlower on July 25, 2007, 03:41:11 PM
I send people here all the time. I'm like, "Hey! You want to know what its all about? Go to www.susans.org" I explain as much as I can & answer their questions then refer people here to learn more on their own time.
Don't know if my blog generates any traffic but I also have links on my blog that point to the Wiki here. Oh and I have a news reader on my blog that gets its "news" from here. The news are the posts.
Don't know if my blog generates any traffic but I also have links on my blog that point to the Wiki here. Oh and I have a news reader on my blog that gets its "news" from here. The news are the posts.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Laurry on July 25, 2007, 07:25:51 PM
Post by: Laurry on July 25, 2007, 07:25:51 PM
Hi Diane,
Great question, and some great answers.
I think it is a combination of all of the above, plus, I have never found a better group of people anywhere. Folks here are open, caring, supportive, funny and loving. Most are going, or have gone, through tremendous struggles just so they can be themselves.
You can find information about all the various flavors of TG, news of interest, and support for SO's. If you feel alone or like there is something wrong with you, you will find friends here who have been there. You find that you are not the only one who feels as you do. I know I did.
And did I mention that the folks here are wonderful?
....Laurry
Great question, and some great answers.
I think it is a combination of all of the above, plus, I have never found a better group of people anywhere. Folks here are open, caring, supportive, funny and loving. Most are going, or have gone, through tremendous struggles just so they can be themselves.
You can find information about all the various flavors of TG, news of interest, and support for SO's. If you feel alone or like there is something wrong with you, you will find friends here who have been there. You find that you are not the only one who feels as you do. I know I did.
And did I mention that the folks here are wonderful?
....Laurry
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Jay on July 30, 2007, 06:53:14 AM
Post by: Jay on July 30, 2007, 06:53:14 AM
Quote from: sketchy-kun on July 14, 2007, 09:45:06 PM
i think ppl who don't consider themselves transgender or transsexual vist boards like these so much outta curiousity or because they have nothing better to do....... *shrug* that's what i would think ;D
Me too :)
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: MSF215 on August 08, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
Post by: MSF215 on August 08, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
There are also people out there who may feel embaressed of even having an interest in TG/TS people. It wasn't easy for me to tell my friends I had an interest, let alone that I thought about becoming one. I still haven't the guts to tell them the rest yet.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 08, 2007, 07:51:01 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 08, 2007, 07:51:01 PM
Quote from: MSF215 on August 08, 2007, 07:43:09 PM
There are also people out there who may feel embaressed of even having an interest in TG/TS people. It wasn't easy for me to tell my friends I had an interest, let alone that I thought about becoming one. I still haven't the guts to tell them the rest yet.
I agree. For a few years when I realized I was interested, I definitely wouldn't tell anyone that I was curious about trans people.
Now, I just stand on a street corner singing it out for all the world to know. How times have changed.
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: Laurry on August 08, 2007, 08:57:39 PM
Post by: Laurry on August 08, 2007, 08:57:39 PM
Quote from: Rebis on August 08, 2007, 07:51:01 PM
Now, I just stand on a street corner singing it out for all the world to know.
If you put a hat down do people give you money? Or is your singing that bad? :angel:
......Laurry
Title: Re: not trangendered or transsexual
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 08, 2007, 10:19:49 PM
Post by: RebeccaFog on August 08, 2007, 10:19:49 PM
Quote from: Laurry on August 08, 2007, 08:57:39 PMQuote from: Rebis on August 08, 2007, 07:51:01 PM
Now, I just stand on a street corner singing it out for all the world to know.
If you put a hat down do people give you money? Or is your singing that bad? :angel:
......Laurry
It's so bad that they take my own money and stuff it in my mouth. They use my socks when I am broke. Broke like the windshields of the cars that pass by me.
Have you been hiding?