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ok i just bought this one

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i dont have any idea about supplements a friend told me it can help to increase my T  idk if its true i hope thats right cause its expensive will it give me muscles or what!! does it work like stroids or what i need answers and ty

Those sorts of supplements contain no testosterone.  They claim to work by supporting testicular health and providing protein, vitamins, and minerals to your diet.

It's a protein powder for shakes. It has no relation to T levels and is usually consumed in place of a meal.

Quote from: Nygeel on March 11, 2014, 04:17:20 PM
It's a protein powder for shakes. It has no relation to T levels and is usually consumed in place of a meal.

^ This.  Typically person works out in combination of using such thing and the work-out itself "could" increase T from what I've heard, but no by much and th changes don't usually stick.

Quote from: Malachite on March 11, 2014, 04:22:02 PM

^ This.  Typically person works out in combination of using such thing and the work-out itself "could" increase T from what I've heard, but no by much and th changes don't usually stick.

Yea.. you can drink protein shakes til you're blue and you won't make any gains or T increases unless you're actively working out.  I hardcore worked out and drank protein shakes all last summer (when I actually had the time... damn you grad school) and my gains were... mild.  I do plan to get back to it though... 2-3 months isn't really a fair trial of such things.

ok thank you guys

This is a mass/weight gainer. If you want to pack on the pounds fast, you would drink this as a supplemental shake. A lot of gainers contain junk though in order to have a high calorie shake to gain mass. It doesn't necessarily mean it will be complete muscle either. Usually if you stop taking the gainer supplement, you lost a lot of what you have built. I'd recommend getting whey protein supplement or something of that nature or get your calories from actual food. Keep in mind though that it is very hard to eat 5,000 calories a day to have an insane figure. At least for me.

It would only benefit you if it would help you exercise and gain muscle mass (which tends to increase masculine appearance), obviously no T. I don't know enough about this particular product.

--Jay

Just looked up one the nutritional facts of something similar (the one that's 4000 not 8000). One serving is about equal to the number of calories I eat in a day.

Yikes Nygeel! That's a LOT of calories!
I have heard some guys talk about the benefit of high carbs and extensive exercise. I would think you would have to do a LOT of exercise to make up for that many extra calories (as I am assuming you would be eating your normal diet). This might constitute hours of aerobic and other exercises a day.

--Jay

Quote from: aleon515 on March 12, 2014, 02:21:55 PM
Yikes Nygeel! That's a LOT of calories!
I have heard some guys talk about the benefit of high carbs and extensive exercise. I would think you would have to do a LOT of exercise to make up for that many extra calories (as I am assuming you would be eating your normal diet). This might constitute hours of aerobic and other exercises a day.

--Jay

I think it's 1650 calories?

Quote from: Nygeel on March 12, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
I think it's 1650 calories?

I'd gather there would be very few people who would have an exercise schedule to match this one!!

--Jay

Looked up the mega mass 4000 (only one I could find in English) by the same company, and it is 1640 calories, 88 grams of protein, and a whopping 132 grams of sugar, no good. This is for people on the extreme edges of athletics, competitive weight lifters and marathon trainers who have a hard time eating enough calories to compensate what they're burning through.
This unfortunately won't do the average Joe much good. If you want to optimize T levels (whether you're on T or not, though obviously you'll get much stronger results if you're on T), lift heavy weights a few times a week (check out the sticky post on this site) eat plenty of protein (especially animal protein) and get enough sleep, you'll get muscles soon enough.