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Title: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Terracotta on March 18, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
Post by: Terracotta on March 18, 2014, 01:10:25 AM
I wonder, does estrogen make you more jealous/envious?
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on March 18, 2014, 02:18:19 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on March 18, 2014, 02:18:19 AM
Νaaah...
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: TerriT on March 18, 2014, 02:19:46 AM
Post by: TerriT on March 18, 2014, 02:19:46 AM
Of what? Of other girls? Of your state of transition compared to others? Of that bitch down the hallway and her epic biker jacket?
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: alabamagirl on March 18, 2014, 02:37:21 AM
Post by: alabamagirl on March 18, 2014, 02:37:21 AM
I don't know... I'm already pretty jealous. I doubt it. :P
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Jill F on March 18, 2014, 03:27:01 AM
Post by: Jill F on March 18, 2014, 03:27:01 AM
No, the opposite is true. I'm on E and living free now!
(BS called on women with pretty singing voices, narrow waists, shoe size less than 13 and not built like linebackers)
(BS called on women with pretty singing voices, narrow waists, shoe size less than 13 and not built like linebackers)
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: suzifrommd on March 18, 2014, 08:37:50 AM
Post by: suzifrommd on March 18, 2014, 08:37:50 AM
Been the opposite for me. More mental calm. Though I tend to get dramatic when something bothers me.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Nero on March 18, 2014, 08:54:50 AM
Post by: Nero on March 18, 2014, 08:54:50 AM
I'd say our culture inspires and promotes jealousy among women. Women are always pitted against one another. When a woman envies another woman, the expression is often 'I hate her!' (sometimes said tongue in cheek but still a pretty strong statement). When a man envies another man, usually he wants to get in with him, hope it'll rub off. So beginning to live as female, you may experience more feelings like this. I don't think it's the hormones.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Cindy on March 18, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
Post by: Cindy on March 18, 2014, 08:57:37 AM
I'll echo the others and particularly FA.
I'm not jealous of anyone, but I'm envious of some.
I'm not jealous of anyone, but I'm envious of some.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Carrie Liz on March 18, 2014, 10:06:45 AM
Post by: Carrie Liz on March 18, 2014, 10:06:45 AM
I'd say that it's a different kind of jealousy, and I don't think it has anything to do with hormones, I think it has more to do with the social aspects of being a woman, and therefore being subject to society's judgments of femininity which we have a bit harder of a time living up to than cis-women.
Like, pre-transition I was jealous of ALL women. I'd constantly sigh and study them, being like "WHY can't I have a body like that?" Where now it's only certain things that set me off, like women with really beautiful hands, or especially cute faces and voices. I'll suddenly be like "you b****... you do NOT have any right to be that perfect. You make me feel like a joke by comparison. That is SO not fair."
Like, pre-transition I was jealous of ALL women. I'd constantly sigh and study them, being like "WHY can't I have a body like that?" Where now it's only certain things that set me off, like women with really beautiful hands, or especially cute faces and voices. I'll suddenly be like "you b****... you do NOT have any right to be that perfect. You make me feel like a joke by comparison. That is SO not fair."
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: alabamagirl on March 18, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
Post by: alabamagirl on March 18, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
*Looks at Carrie Liz's avatar* Oh my god! Stop being so pretty! You're making me look bad!
Seriously, I've felt jealous looking at your avatar before, Carrie.
Seriously, I've felt jealous looking at your avatar before, Carrie.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Rachel on March 18, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
Post by: Rachel on March 18, 2014, 06:35:13 PM
My GD pre HRT focused on all women a lot of the time and to the nth degree. Now, I look for a comparative to me such as size, age and position for scrutiny. However, the noticeably beautiful voice, body, breasts, hair, legs and body type give me a deflated feeling and envy.
I think now I look for serious comparison and less on obsessing. Such as, I like that and I could do that or I love that look.
I think now I look for serious comparison and less on obsessing. Such as, I like that and I could do that or I love that look.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: FrancisAnn on March 18, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
Post by: FrancisAnn on March 18, 2014, 06:41:56 PM
Jealous of what? No jealously here so guess not for me. It only makes me feet great, relaxed, calm & confident.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on March 18, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on March 18, 2014, 06:58:44 PM
I would say...
That's an interesting question as estrogen has established effects on mood.
It is however, hard for anyone to provide anecdotal evidence that would really shed any light on the matter as other factors, such as socialisation and GID would colour results so sgnificantly to the extent that any reasonable conclusion could not be made.
That's an interesting question as estrogen has established effects on mood.
It is however, hard for anyone to provide anecdotal evidence that would really shed any light on the matter as other factors, such as socialisation and GID would colour results so sgnificantly to the extent that any reasonable conclusion could not be made.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Hikari on March 18, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Post by: Hikari on March 18, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
Quote from: Pikachu on March 18, 2014, 12:38:58 PM
*Looks at Carrie Liz's avatar* Oh my god! Stop being so pretty! You're making me look bad!
Seriously, I've felt jealous looking at your avatar before, Carrie.
I admit to pangs of envy while looking at quite a few people's avatars on here.
However, I tend not to respond with "I Hate her" I tend to think more along the lines of "I bet if I try hard, I can do even better". It was always a coping strategy before and it still serves me after E. Seems a bit healthier too in the long run to try and think of self improvement than hate, because I can hate that thin girl all I want it won't take any inches off my waist.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: Ltl89 on March 18, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on March 18, 2014, 09:08:50 PM
No. Estrogen really doesn't have an impact on envy or jealousy. However, transitioning and trying to meet the impossible expectations for perfection might make you feel this way. I know I've felt this way before (pre and during my transition), but I always try to remember that anyone I'm jealous of doesn't deserve negative sentiments thrown at them. I've noticed that some of the nicest girls I've known have been universally hated by other women because of this.
Title: Re: Does estrogen make you more jealous?
Post by: alabamagirl on March 19, 2014, 01:54:10 AM
Post by: alabamagirl on March 19, 2014, 01:54:10 AM
Quote from: Hikari on March 18, 2014, 08:29:00 PM
I admit to pangs of envy while looking at quite a few people's avatars on here.
However, I tend not to respond with "I Hate her" I tend to think more along the lines of "I bet if I try hard, I can do even better". It was always a coping strategy before and it still serves me after E. Seems a bit healthier too in the long run to try and think of self improvement than hate, because I can hate that thin girl all I want it won't take any inches off my waist.
Yeah, that's how I try to look at it, too. Turn the envy into inspiration and think, "I can be that pretty, too, if I work hard enough." :)