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Title: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: DriftingCrow on April 10, 2014, 11:16:53 PM
Post by: DriftingCrow on April 10, 2014, 11:16:53 PM
http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2014/04/10/301582022/judges-appear-divided-in-case-on-utahs-gay-marriage-ban
Scott Neuman, NPR News
A three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals appeared divided on Thursday as they listened to arguments in a case on whether Utah's same-sex marriage ban is constitutional.
USAToday says:"Judge Paul Kelly, an appointee of former president George H.W. Bush, was the most skeptical of same-sex marriage rights. Judge Carlos Lucero, appointed by Bill Clinton, appeared strongly in favor.
[Attorney for the gay couples, Peggy] Tomsic argued that "any state law that bars gays from something as fundamentally important as marriage should be voided," The Associated Press says.
Scott Neuman, NPR News
A three-judge panel of the 10th Circuit Court of Appeals appeared divided on Thursday as they listened to arguments in a case on whether Utah's same-sex marriage ban is constitutional.
USAToday says:"Judge Paul Kelly, an appointee of former president George H.W. Bush, was the most skeptical of same-sex marriage rights. Judge Carlos Lucero, appointed by Bill Clinton, appeared strongly in favor.
[Attorney for the gay couples, Peggy] Tomsic argued that "any state law that bars gays from something as fundamentally important as marriage should be voided," The Associated Press says.
Title: Re: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: Jessica Merriman on April 10, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on April 10, 2014, 11:37:03 PM
Here in Oklahoma they are hanging fiercely to traditional male/female only. ARGH!
Title: Re: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: Jill F on April 11, 2014, 02:39:15 AM
Post by: Jill F on April 11, 2014, 02:39:15 AM
This is going the way of interracial marriage. It's just a matter of time, and I doubt it will be much longer. My bet is Mississipi will be the last state. Takers?
So weird that in until recently in California that the only way one could have a same sex marriage legally was that if one partner transitioned.
So whom can intersexed people marry in any given state?
So weird that in until recently in California that the only way one could have a same sex marriage legally was that if one partner transitioned.
So whom can intersexed people marry in any given state?
Title: Re: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: Amy The Bookworm on April 11, 2014, 08:05:55 AM
Post by: Amy The Bookworm on April 11, 2014, 08:05:55 AM
Quote from: Jill F on April 11, 2014, 02:39:15 AM
My bet is Mississipi will be the last state. Takers?
I'll take that bet and say it'll be Kansas.
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After living here for several years, I've come to realize that there's a reason the West borrow Baptist Church can operate here without getting run out of town.
Title: Re: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 11, 2014, 08:15:08 AM
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 11, 2014, 08:15:08 AM
Quote from: Jill F on April 11, 2014, 02:39:15 AM
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So whom can intersexed people marry in any given state?
Anyone who's sex as known to the government (probably what's on the birth certificate) is the binary opposite of whatever was registered on their own birth certificate. Most state laws only recognize male or female as valid so the intersexed would have been assigned to one or the other.
Dee
Title: Re: Judges Appear Divided In Case On Utah's Gay Marriage Ban
Post by: Michelle-G on April 11, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
Post by: Michelle-G on April 11, 2014, 12:30:59 PM
Quote from: Jill F on April 11, 2014, 02:39:15 AMMy bet is Mississipi will be the last state.
Hmmm . . . Kansas, Oklahoma and Texas are all strong contenders, Mississippi hasn't been challenged yet, so who knows? Based on cases I have seen coming out of their state legislature I would say Tennessee will be the last one without a chair when the music stops.