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A few weeks ago I read a post that said that women will behave differently when in an all female group. So I was wondering just how differently they behave and in what way? Any anecdotes from MTF's about unexpected differences?

What I have noticed in social settings the speach is faster, the conversation is about female topics or frame of referance, the spreach is in a higher rate and more words per sentence(fluiency) and higher pitch and use more exaggerated pitch. This would be in a group of female friends. ( my wife, daughter and their female friends like baseball and some of the women in work like football as well. I have one group I talk cars with )


When the group is mixed I notice the females may pair off and talk. If they stay in the group then they usually are silent or talk  much less and different than when in an all female group.

Quote from: Cynthia Michelle on April 13, 2014, 05:10:47 PM
What I have noticed in social settings the speach is faster, the conversation is about female topics or frame of referance, the spreach is in a higher rate and more words per sentence(fluiency) and higher pitch and use more exaggerated pitch. This would be in a group of female friends. ( my wife, daughter and their female friends like baseball and some of the women in work like football as well. I have one group I talk cars with )


When the group is mixed I notice the females may pair off and talk. If they stay in the group then they usually are silent or talk  much less and different than when in an all female group.

As a female-socialized person, this sounds accurate.

Quote from: Andrea J on April 13, 2014, 04:26:21 PM
A few weeks ago I read a post that said that women will behave differently when in an all female group. So I was wondering just how differently they behave and in what way? Any anecdotes from MTF's about unexpected differences?

Generealising (always dangerous) - the biggest difference I noticed is that when a man joins the group

a) He will not shut up

b) He talks about himself, his viewpoints and what he likes regardless of the topic of conversation

c) He does not like being interrupted


I had never noticed how intrusive men can be and I probably suffered from it myself before my transition. I feel I can be more open with just other women around.

They're also more likely to talk about what douchebags some guys can be! :laugh:

And we change the topic when a guy walks in :laugh:

Quote from: Cindy on April 14, 2014, 03:53:27 AM
And we change the topic when a guy walks in :laugh:

...or laugh...!

http://youtu.be/oBSeBqiSzZs

I found that they just are more open with one another...and say more (quantitatively). They also seem to feel a lot more comfortable and it shows in their body language.

Quote from: Cindy on April 14, 2014, 03:53:27 AM
And we change the topic when a guy walks in :laugh:

And the look on his face when he noticed that the subject just changed but, we are still laughing about it.

Yup... I'd say that this is pretty accurate.

Mainly it's just more of a comfort-level thing. They're more open, more dynamic, more at ease, like they're not as afraid of showing emotion and just talking about whatever when they're exclusively around other women. Where around guys, they tend to act more defensive and closed-off.

Personally, this difference is usually so pronounced that I can, more often than not, tell how women are gendering me without a single pronoun being uttered. That emotional "openness" is a HUGE difference. (And one that I'm so glad I get to be on the receiving end of now.)

Quote from: Carrie Liz on April 15, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
Yup... I'd say that this is pretty accurate.

Mainly it's just more of a comfort-level thing. They're more open, more dynamic, more at ease, like they're not as afraid of showing emotion and just talking about whatever when they're exclusively around other women. Where around guys, they tend to act more defensive and closed-off.

Personally, this difference is usually so pronounced that I can, more often than not, tell how women are gendering me without a single pronoun being uttered. That emotional "openness" is a HUGE difference. (And one that I'm so glad I get to be on the receiving end of now.)

This ^^
When I read the threads of do you pass etc, there is one way I know I both pass and am accepted into the female world. The sisterhood accepts me.

Hi, thanks for your answers.

Quote from: Carrie Liz on April 15, 2014, 02:06:25 AM
Mainly it's just more of a comfort-level thing. They're more open, more dynamic, more at ease, like they're not as afraid of showing emotion and just talking about whatever when they're exclusively around other women.

I guess it's difficult to know exactly what you mean without experiencing it. I suppose the easiest way is finding YouTube videos where women are relaxed and talking in this manner. I found a YouTube video: "The Sister TAG! Carlibel55" by "Inner Beauty Bybel". Is this the way of talking that you mean? Perhaps you have a video that's a better example? This video is kind of long so you can just jump to about 5 minutes in if you like.

I know Grace posted a video, (thanks), I'm just looking for a longer one.

I wonder if gay men are allowed into the women's clique?

QuotePersonally, this difference is usually so pronounced that I can, more often than not, tell how women are gendering me without a single pronoun being uttered. That emotional "openness" is a HUGE difference. (And one that I'm so glad I get to be on the receiving end of now.)

Ah, gender discrimination sucks :( From my point of view, this whole gender binary sucks. I hope that we can rebuild it into one that's more inclusive. Rather than US vs THEM, it's just WE

I never noticed a difference, but it could be a regional issue. Women tend to be dominant over men here instead of the other way around.

Quote from: Declan. on April 20, 2014, 10:36:55 AM
I never noticed a difference, but it could be a regional issue. Women tend to be dominant over men here instead of the other way around.

May I ask where you live?

Quote from: Andrea J on April 19, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
I guess it's difficult to know exactly what you mean without experiencing it.

You can tell by how women smile at you. You can tell by what they want to talk about around you. You can tell because they will be open about touching you (not sexually). You can tell because they talk about women's issues and they talk about guys. You can tell because they will confide in you.

When these things happen they are accepting you as one of their own.

Quote from: birkin on April 14, 2014, 06:18:36 PM
I found that they just are more open with one another...and say more (quantitatively). They also seem to feel a lot more comfortable and it shows in their body language.

This ^  That is what exactly happened when the boys were seperated from the girls in my Sunday school class.

I've noticed the way groups of women will act when no men are around. They definitely seem more comfortable and free. I hate not being part of that, I always have, and the fact that women see me as not being a "member of the club" sort of hurts as much as anything tbh. That's one of the main things I'm worried about if I transition. I'd be tough if I was never fully accepted and ended up being the one to make things uncomfortable still. I think being treated and accepted as a woman is really what I want, more so than the physical appearance, but in the majority of cases the two go hand in hand...

I guess that's why I'm so concerned about not transitioning unless I can pass enough, it sucks, but it's the way I think...

Quote from: Andrea J on April 21, 2014, 07:25:50 AM
May I ask where you live?

I'd rather not name our exact location online, but I live in an especially progressive part of New England that's borderline rural.