Community Conversation => Transsexual talk => Male to female transsexual talk (MTF) => Topic started by: V M on April 18, 2014, 05:41:48 PM Return to Full Version
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on April 18, 2014, 05:41:48 PM
Post by: V M on April 18, 2014, 05:41:48 PM
Hi friends :)
It was time for a new 'Could I Pass?' topic, so here you go
You look great Barbie 8)
It was time for a new 'Could I Pass?' topic, so here you go
Quote from: barbie on April 18, 2014, 12:42:35 PM
I am in Big Island of Hawaii.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2905/13902295676_b93a448efe_c.jpg)
Do I pass?
barbie~~
You look great Barbie 8)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
Barbie, you look wonderful! Definitely passable. I LOVE the hair and dress.
Glamour shot~ xoxo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw7J6dhE.jpg&hash=76d9f8a1ae8e64ac5deb4ddbbe861382e8adc988)
Glamour shot~ xoxo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw7J6dhE.jpg&hash=76d9f8a1ae8e64ac5deb4ddbbe861382e8adc988)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: peky on April 18, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
Post by: peky on April 18, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
You look like such a beautiful Lady, intelligent, sophisticated, and sexy too !
I hope I can meet you when I visit Seoul in June 2015
OOXX
P
I hope I can meet you when I visit Seoul in June 2015
OOXX
P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: MadeleineG on April 18, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Post by: MadeleineG on April 18, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Chic, you're going to pass just fine*.
*pragmatic marker indicating honesty in the passing thread
*pragmatic marker indicating honesty in the passing thread
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 06:27:23 PM
Quote from: Mia Jennell (Gwynne) on April 18, 2014, 06:25:29 PM
Chic, you're going to pass just fine*.
*pragmatic marker indicating honesty in the passing thread
I love that marker idea! :) Thank you very much.
Now that I'm confident I'll eventually pass on hormones, I wonder if I should start taking suggestions for hairstyles and clothing types and whatnot
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Post by: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
so what does happen when you put lipstick on a pig?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fpiglet.jpg&hash=11de36407c142e44ea95f56ce9aff2c0660c816c)
Does it pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fpiglet.jpg&hash=11de36407c142e44ea95f56ce9aff2c0660c816c)
Does it pass?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 08:08:46 PM
Post by: Chic on April 18, 2014, 08:08:46 PM
Quote from: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
so what does happen when you put lipstick on a pig?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fpiglet.jpg&hash=11de36407c142e44ea95f56ce9aff2c0660c816c)
Does it pass?
You must have cropped the pig out of the picture, because all I see is a beautiful woman. That color combination of blonde hair, red shirt and blue jeans flatters you so well and works great with your skin tone. That's a male fail if I've ever seen one.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on April 18, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Post by: stephaniec on April 18, 2014, 08:16:01 PM
Quote from: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PMyou get a bacon , lettuce and lipstick sandwhich
so what does happen when you put lipstick on a pig?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fpiglet.jpg&hash=11de36407c142e44ea95f56ce9aff2c0660c816c)
Does it pass?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 18, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 18, 2014, 11:06:38 PM
Quote from: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
so what does happen when you put lipstick on a pig?
I don't know, but bacon is delicious! ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 18, 2014, 11:10:56 PM
Post by: barbie on April 18, 2014, 11:10:56 PM
Quote from: peky on April 18, 2014, 05:49:09 PM
You look like such a beautiful Lady, intelligent, sophisticated, and sexy too !
I hope I can meet you when I visit Seoul in June 2015
OOXX
P
Peky,
June is hot and humid in Seoul, but definitely I can arrange my schedule of business in Seoul for you if I have some chances to be there.
It is already summer here in Big Island, but the windy weather and gusts makes me feel it like spring or fall.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 18, 2014, 11:31:43 PM
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 18, 2014, 11:31:43 PM
kind of a weird question. Basically I have to go in boy mode to my cousins on easter. Do I pass as a cis straight guy? Keep in mind I am suppose to look like a straight 23 year old guy. I think I look trans no matter how I dress, but I am trying to see if I can pull off being a guy.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhvhAddz.png&hash=99375579c390029126ed0963743b4f56b846b271)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhvhAddz.png&hash=99375579c390029126ed0963743b4f56b846b271)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 01:58:14 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 01:58:14 AM
HB, unfortunately you look too feminine. You are beyond like Abbyxo. Is this a trick question? :D
Can you not grow some facial hair? Fill in those eyebrows with a pencil?
Maybe a ponytail out the back of a baseball cap tennis style?
Can you not grow some facial hair? Fill in those eyebrows with a pencil?
Maybe a ponytail out the back of a baseball cap tennis style?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 02:19:32 AM
Post by: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 02:19:32 AM
Hers ya go, the pikachu one is cuz I go by Ash and Im always getting asked where Pikachu is lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPwnI7ei.jpg&hash=a76f46dcfefa29066b47b2df915d50cdedf8c6f6)
Pika Pika!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Funb0GEH.jpg&hash=f8e8fff2f275a8fa237b8cc03017695f21bb924a)
(this ones yucky I know and I look really guyish)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD1y58x2.jpg&hash=55d124694f5d7740a07f82b7970a2d4758976273)
Just hanging out :3
So, think Im passing yet :P I went to the park to play basket ball yesterday and got called female so something has to look half femme :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPwnI7ei.jpg&hash=a76f46dcfefa29066b47b2df915d50cdedf8c6f6)
Pika Pika!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Funb0GEH.jpg&hash=f8e8fff2f275a8fa237b8cc03017695f21bb924a)
(this ones yucky I know and I look really guyish)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD1y58x2.jpg&hash=55d124694f5d7740a07f82b7970a2d4758976273)
Just hanging out :3
So, think Im passing yet :P I went to the park to play basket ball yesterday and got called female so something has to look half femme :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 19, 2014, 02:33:16 AM
Post by: Chic on April 19, 2014, 02:33:16 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 02:19:32 AM
Hers ya go, the pikachu one is cuz I go by Ash and Im always getting asked where Pikachu is lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FPwnI7ei.jpg&hash=a76f46dcfefa29066b47b2df915d50cdedf8c6f6)
Pika Pika!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Funb0GEH.jpg&hash=f8e8fff2f275a8fa237b8cc03017695f21bb924a)
(this ones yucky I know and I look really guyish)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FD1y58x2.jpg&hash=55d124694f5d7740a07f82b7970a2d4758976273)
Just hanging out :3
So, think Im passing yet :P I went to the park to play basket ball yesterday and got called female so something has to look half femme :P
You look androgynous leaning towards femme. Your body is looking very feminine, and the shirt and necklace you're wearing in the middle picture not only complements you but very much adds to you looking feminine. They shape the neck area well. It is also in the middle picture that you look the most feminine facially too. The eye makeup adds to this. Your breast development is coming along quite nicely as well. Lastly, the pose you're in there is really femme, which definitely adds points to the overall look. Posture is very important but is often overlooked or underestimated in what it does for people in terms of passing.
Overall, I think you look beautiful and I am envious. This is a similar look to one of the ones I have in mind when I start transitioning, mainly regarding the hairstyle. You're doing very nicely.
Ash used hormones. It's super effective!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 19, 2014, 02:42:32 AM
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 19, 2014, 02:42:32 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 01:58:14 AM
HB, unfortunately you look too feminine. You are beyond like Abbyxo. Is this a trick question? :D
Can you not grow some facial hair? Fill in those eyebrows with a pencil?
Maybe a ponytail out the back of a baseball cap tennis style?
I kind of need to pass. This looks okay in the picture, but my eye shadow beard looks fake irl. I did pencil in some eye brows.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlLI5VGc.png&hash=a3515ccb041d8c70993ab34e9aceffc41613878a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 02:50:58 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 19, 2014, 02:50:58 AM
Maybe some round thick frame non prescript glasses?
Hmm... I don't mean to jest, but here you go... :D
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,27.0.html
Hmm... I don't mean to jest, but here you go... :D
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,27.0.html
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 04:57:08 AM
Post by: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 04:57:08 AM
Quote from: kate on April 19, 2014, 04:24:58 AM
You look very feminine. That second shot, wow your hot lol. Tbh if you was playing basketball like that, i would absolutely have thought female as well.
Haha I took that pic before I went out to play basketball that day :D I caught two of em staring at my butt a few times xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 11:10:05 AM
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 11:10:05 AM
Quote from: kate on April 19, 2014, 04:24:58 AM
I don't mean this to say you don't look great as a woman
::)
I don't believe that has anything to do with what they asked.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
Quote from: kate on April 19, 2014, 12:07:07 PM
I answered her question. I don't understand what you mean? Why would you roll your eyes over something like that lol
She asked if she could pass as male, not how she looked as a female. You just ADDED that extra critique in yourself.
I was going to say something else about you that would be considered rude but I'm better than that.
xo
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 19, 2014, 12:34:38 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 19, 2014, 12:34:38 PM
Quote from: Starla on April 19, 2014, 12:26:53 PM
She asked if she could pass as male, not how she looked as a female. You just ADDED that extra critique in yourself.
I was going to say something else about you that would be considered rude but I'm better than that.
xo
starla this is a missunderstanding,,,
read the post better...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 12:37:49 PM
Post by: Starla on April 19, 2014, 12:37:49 PM
Quote from: FalsePrincess on April 19, 2014, 12:34:38 PM
starla this is a missunderstanding,,,
read the post better...
I read her original post and she clearly asks if she could pass as male.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on April 19, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
Post by: E-Brennan on April 19, 2014, 01:36:43 PM
Quote from: piglet smith on April 18, 2014, 07:34:41 PM
Does it pass?
Piglet, in that photo you pass. Nice curvy body shape, cute hair. Pretty!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: piglet smith on April 19, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
Post by: piglet smith on April 19, 2014, 02:01:52 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on April 18, 2014, 08:16:01 PMOMG! You're trying to make me into a cannibal!!
you get a bacon , lettuce and lipstick sandwhich
Thanks y'all. I'm still somewhat insecure at times even though I've been fulltime for over 8 years.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on April 19, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on April 19, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
Quote from: Chic on April 18, 2014, 05:47:46 PMu should also add that that pic was edited on a makeup site. anyway u look female in it.
Barbie, you look wonderful! Definitely passable. I LOVE the hair and dress.
Glamour shot~ xoxo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw7J6dhE.jpg&hash=76d9f8a1ae8e64ac5deb4ddbbe861382e8adc988)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on April 19, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
Post by: RobinGee on April 19, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
So do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2bx66gsl.jpg&hash=1ca9867061020485634d3f68f8ccb23f1a4b0dd6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2bx66gsl.jpg&hash=1ca9867061020485634d3f68f8ccb23f1a4b0dd6)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill F on April 19, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
Post by: Jill F on April 19, 2014, 05:45:40 PM
Quote from: RobinGee on April 19, 2014, 05:30:04 PM
So do I pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2bx66gsl.jpg&hash=1ca9867061020485634d3f68f8ccb23f1a4b0dd6)
As a cyborg?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 19, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
Post by: Chic on April 19, 2014, 05:46:44 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on April 19, 2014, 03:20:44 PM
u should also add that that pic was edited on a makeup site. anyway u look female in it.
I've said it loads of times during my post, I forgot to put it here lol
Thank you
Fun fact: This picture was taken weeks ago before I started showing both my eyes in pictures
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on April 19, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
Post by: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on April 19, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
This is more of do I pass without my hair extensions with my hair the way it is? ...... Sorry about my messy room today!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101329.jpg&hash=a8373875fe640c9c8f2f8220c0a1d52ca8867526) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101323.jpg&hash=cfb0d72922b9bbd9eb651460692299f5700ff599)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101320.jpg&hash=474cba389aee5765fe9887e2885bec39ed7bd62f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101330.jpg&hash=0d97ae5dfa7a06bf1e627012adaff84ef468c58c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101329.jpg&hash=a8373875fe640c9c8f2f8220c0a1d52ca8867526) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101323.jpg&hash=cfb0d72922b9bbd9eb651460692299f5700ff599)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101320.jpg&hash=474cba389aee5765fe9887e2885bec39ed7bd62f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101330.jpg&hash=0d97ae5dfa7a06bf1e627012adaff84ef468c58c)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: WaspWoman on April 19, 2014, 08:35:55 PM
Post by: WaspWoman on April 19, 2014, 08:35:55 PM
Quote from: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on April 19, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
This is more of do I pass without my hair extensions with my hair the way it is? ...... Sorry about my messy room today!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101329.jpg&hash=a8373875fe640c9c8f2f8220c0a1d52ca8867526) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101323.jpg&hash=cfb0d72922b9bbd9eb651460692299f5700ff599)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101320.jpg&hash=474cba389aee5765fe9887e2885bec39ed7bd62f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101330.jpg&hash=0d97ae5dfa7a06bf1e627012adaff84ef468c58c)
I'd say so! Even in that un-flattering uniform, I would say you have nothing to worry about at all. 9 months? you are rockin it girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 21, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
Post by: Chic on April 21, 2014, 03:51:09 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FtOcrgE3.jpg&hash=b997cbaa768b6f470e39545b3201c122289e39a5)
Video with my voice:
http://instagram.com/p/nEAXGJLgK9/
Video with my voice:
http://instagram.com/p/nEAXGJLgK9/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:38:41 PM
Quote from: Chic on April 18, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
Barbie, you look wonderful! Definitely passable. I LOVE the hair and dress.
Glamour shot~ xoxo
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw7J6dhE.jpg&hash=76d9f8a1ae8e64ac5deb4ddbbe861382e8adc988)
WOW!! You go, girl! :O
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
Quote from: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on April 19, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
This is more of do I pass without my hair extensions with my hair the way it is? ...... Sorry about my messy room today!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101329.jpg&hash=a8373875fe640c9c8f2f8220c0a1d52ca8867526) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101323.jpg&hash=cfb0d72922b9bbd9eb651460692299f5700ff599)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101320.jpg&hash=474cba389aee5765fe9887e2885bec39ed7bd62f) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fkasihnya%2FWIN_20140419_101330.jpg&hash=0d97ae5dfa7a06bf1e627012adaff84ef468c58c)
I'd say you're doing really well so far.....a little more HRT and you got this :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
Post by: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
Ok, last one I'm going to post for a few months......
Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMYqDbgM.jpg&hash=b65256c91ede232045da1717dc246810aaaedc70)
and.....are my legs way too chunky for me to be showing them?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdryuvPS.jpg&hash=562850a5ae6d64c72ca777b6469e361d19cc0847)
Opinions?
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and.....are my legs way too chunky for me to be showing them?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 21, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
Post by: Chic on April 21, 2014, 06:30:52 PM
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
Ok, last one I'm going to post for a few months......
Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMYqDbgM.jpg&hash=b65256c91ede232045da1717dc246810aaaedc70)
and.....are my legs way too chunky for me to be showing them?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FdryuvPS.jpg&hash=562850a5ae6d64c72ca777b6469e361d19cc0847)
You pass without a doubt! And no way are your legs too chunky to be showing them...They're actually quite thin compared to a lot of other people's
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 21, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
Post by: barbie on April 21, 2014, 07:49:08 PM
Quote from: Chic on April 18, 2014, 05:47:46 PM
Barbie, you look wonderful! Definitely passable. I LOVE the hair and dress.
Glamour shot~ xoxo
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Thanks, Chic,
Internet connection at the house where I stayed in Big Island was very unstable, and I could not access to the internet during the last 2 days. Yesterday I returned home.
You pass completely as a lady, I am sure!
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 21, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
Post by: barbie on April 21, 2014, 08:33:05 PM
While running for exercise at Waikoloa village, Big Island, Hawaii,
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My friend took photos for me.
barbie~~
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My friend took photos for me.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah84 on April 22, 2014, 03:46:23 AM
Post by: Sarah84 on April 22, 2014, 03:46:23 AM
Still in a boy/androgynous mode...but what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOd4mkua.jpg%3F1&hash=57ae3b400743a54ea86e6929e39e4fb3eb429865) (http://imgur.com/Od4mkua)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOd4mkua.jpg%3F1&hash=57ae3b400743a54ea86e6929e39e4fb3eb429865) (http://imgur.com/Od4mkua)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 22, 2014, 04:20:45 AM
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 22, 2014, 04:20:45 AM
Quote from: Sarah84 on April 22, 2014, 03:46:23 AM
Still in a boy/androgynous mode...but what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOd4mkua.jpg%3F1&hash=57ae3b400743a54ea86e6929e39e4fb3eb429865) (http://imgur.com/Od4mkua)
Looking good Sarah! I don't think you're passing as a male, all I see is a woman. Hope that's good news ^_^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on April 22, 2014, 05:09:45 AM
Post by: Danniella on April 22, 2014, 05:09:45 AM
Hey all.
I have officially started full-time!
In honour of this, I took a couple photos of some of my new work attire/capsule wardrobe. It's amazing what even just a subtle change of top and jewellery/bag can achieve.
I could spend all day mixing and matching my outfits, taking photos and squeeing...but I thought two was enough for now xD
(https://i.imgur.com/lvDcCea.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ekf22sU.jpg)
Believe it or not, these two photos were actually taken two days appart from each other...it was only when I put them next to each other that I realised it looks like I am in a character customisation screen...I guess I must stand the same way allot of the time o.O
I LOOOOOOVE my new blazer...although people keep saying I look like a teacher or a psychologist o.O
I'm not certain if this is a good thing or not...I must dedicate some time to further meditate and research my feelings on this matteeeeoooohgod...I totally see what they mean. xD
I have officially started full-time!
In honour of this, I took a couple photos of some of my new work attire/capsule wardrobe. It's amazing what even just a subtle change of top and jewellery/bag can achieve.
I could spend all day mixing and matching my outfits, taking photos and squeeing...but I thought two was enough for now xD
(https://i.imgur.com/lvDcCea.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ekf22sU.jpg)
Believe it or not, these two photos were actually taken two days appart from each other...it was only when I put them next to each other that I realised it looks like I am in a character customisation screen...I guess I must stand the same way allot of the time o.O
I LOOOOOOVE my new blazer...although people keep saying I look like a teacher or a psychologist o.O
I'm not certain if this is a good thing or not...I must dedicate some time to further meditate and research my feelings on this matteeeeoooohgod...I totally see what they mean. xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on April 22, 2014, 04:12:19 PM
Post by: Emo on April 22, 2014, 04:12:19 PM
No makeup, new hair only 2-3 months hrt. How close am i to passing? And any suggestions beside the obvious wear make up? :3
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on April 22, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
Post by: Emo on April 22, 2014, 07:39:46 PM
No? :c
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 23, 2014, 06:48:50 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 23, 2014, 06:48:50 AM
Give hormones the time and Im sure you ll look totally female :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 23, 2014, 12:55:21 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 23, 2014, 12:55:21 PM
Quote from: KelsieJ on April 21, 2014, 05:42:59 PM
Ok, last one I'm going to post for a few months......
Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMYqDbgM.jpg&hash=b65256c91ede232045da1717dc246810aaaedc70)
"milf?" (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi58.tinypic.com%2Fmvq8ut.jpg&hash=632ded1d4f627adcfb806e2a26e7a6824114f42a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on April 23, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Post by: kasika on April 23, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Still waiting on HRT. Next month.. hopefully...
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 09:34:28 PM
Ok, so I'm not asking if I pass since I'm nowhere near passing, being pre-HRT and pre-Laser, but I'd like to know if I sit closer to female than I do man-in-dress. When I look at these photos, I'm much happier than I've ever been and I see my female side more than my old male shell, but the wig is cheap and I'm not wearing makeup since I didn't have an opportunity to put any on (I live with peeps). I have a proper wig on the way, but I kinda like the pink throwaway one hehe...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 09:36:47 PM
Quote from: Danniella on April 22, 2014, 05:09:45 AM
Hey all.
I have officially started full-time!
In honour of this, I took a couple photos of some of my new work attire/capsule wardrobe. It's amazing what even just a subtle change of top and jewellery/bag can achieve.
I could spend all day mixing and matching my outfits, taking photos and squeeing...but I thought two was enough for now xD
(https://i.imgur.com/lvDcCea.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/Ekf22sU.jpg)
Believe it or not, these two photos were actually taken two days appart from each other...it was only when I put them next to each other that I realised it looks like I am in a character customisation screen...I guess I must stand the same way allot of the time o.O
I LOOOOOOVE my new blazer...although people keep saying I look like a teacher or a psychologist o.O
I'm not certain if this is a good thing or not...I must dedicate some time to further meditate and research my feelings on this matteeeeoooohgod...I totally see what they mean. xD
You look amaaazing Danniella <3
Quote from: kasika on April 23, 2014, 04:07:10 PM
Still waiting on HRT. Next month.. hopefully...
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I'm anxiously awaiting HRT as well, I know the feeling :/ I think it'll do wonders on you, based on the photo I see very feminine features ^_^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: anais on April 23, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
Post by: anais on April 23, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
I'm really not comfortable putting my picture on a well known website but here goes this is me without makeup or anything. I think I kinda look androgynous.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
Post by: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
Quote from: anais on April 23, 2014, 10:00:44 PM
I'm really not comfortable putting my picture on a well known website but here goes this is me without makeup or anything. I think I kinda look androgynous.
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m136/esmeyers_cora/15_zpse7ac5814.jpg (http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m136/esmeyers_cora/15_zpse7ac5814.jpg)
I think you look very feminine anais ^_^ love your lips :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on April 23, 2014, 11:02:04 PM
Post by: Alaia on April 23, 2014, 11:02:04 PM
Quote from: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 09:34:28 PMWell you certainly look happy just being yourself. I'd say your gestures and posture gives off a feminine vibe much more than just 'man-in-dress'. Just give it time. I know it's hard being patient with transition, especially in the beginning when all you think you see is a man in a dress in the mirror. Stay strong and just keep looking forward. I've seen some pretty fantastic transformations here that have left me with my jaw to the floor. I think you certainly have potential to do much the same :D
Ok, so I'm not asking if I pass since I'm nowhere near passing, being pre-HRT and pre-Laser, but I'd like to know if I sit closer to female than I do man-in-dress. When I look at these photos, I'm much happier than I've ever been and I see my female side more than my old male shell, but the wig is cheap and I'm not wearing makeup since I didn't have an opportunity to put any on (I live with peeps). I have a proper wig on the way, but I kinda like the pink throwaway one hehe...
http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img836/8050/byul.png (http://imagizer.imageshack.us/a/img836/8050/byul.png)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: WaspWoman on April 23, 2014, 11:27:21 PM
Post by: WaspWoman on April 23, 2014, 11:27:21 PM
Kasika, I think you are going to do great! You are already well on your way even without HRT.
Kara Jayde, I definitely see real potential here. You have a genuine looking smile and your feminine posing doesn't look forced at all. Also, love the name!
Anais, androgynous? Honey I see nothing but a lovely lady.
Kara Jayde, I definitely see real potential here. You have a genuine looking smile and your feminine posing doesn't look forced at all. Also, love the name!
Anais, androgynous? Honey I see nothing but a lovely lady.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 24, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 24, 2014, 12:01:23 AM
Quote from: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on April 19, 2014, 07:52:48 PM
This is more of do I pass without my hair extensions with my hair the way it is? ...... Sorry about my messy room today!
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Here's the guy version of you ;)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah84 on April 24, 2014, 03:06:24 AM
Post by: Sarah84 on April 24, 2014, 03:06:24 AM
Quote from: Kara Jayde on April 22, 2014, 04:20:45 AM
Looking good Sarah! I don't think you're passing as a male, all I see is a woman. Hope that's good news ^_^
Great news for sure :-). I am 3 months on hrt and in stealth and I am hoping for boy mode fail one day...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on April 24, 2014, 03:16:53 AM
Post by: katiej on April 24, 2014, 03:16:53 AM
Quote from: Sarah84 on April 22, 2014, 03:46:23 AM
Still in a boy/androgynous mode...but what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOd4mkua.jpg%3F1&hash=57ae3b400743a54ea86e6929e39e4fb3eb429865) (http://imgur.com/Od4mkua)
I heard someone say that 60% of passing is hair. And your hair is amazing! Jealous --> ME
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 08:04:40 AM
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 08:04:40 AM
Quote from: Kara Jayde on April 23, 2014, 10:05:36 PM
I think you look very feminine anais ^_^ love your lips :)
Thank you :) I used to hate my lips when I was a kid but now I like having full lips.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Quote from: AnnaLee on April 23, 2014, 11:27:21 PM
Anais, androgynous? Honey I see nothing but a lovely lady.
Thank you that's sweet but I think I'm still kinda in that andro stage between male and female. I definitely don't see a woman yet.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sydney_NYC on April 24, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Post by: Sydney_NYC on April 24, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
Quote from: anais on April 24, 2014, 08:08:09 AM
Thank you that's sweet but I think I'm still kinda in that andro stage between male and female. I definitely don't see a woman yet.
I think that you do pass. (Maybe as a cis-woman with some masculine traits, but I don't see anything that screams male or transgender.) We are our worse critic and I have the same problem where everyone tells me I pass, but when I look in the mirror, I see mostly male. For some odd reason, when I look at a photo of myself, I'm starting to see more female than male in myself.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 24, 2014, 07:34:53 PM
Post by: Chic on April 24, 2014, 07:34:53 PM
Still pre-everything and I post here too much, but I have a new headband (it's actually a bracelet but w/e) and my friend told me it makes me look more feminine. She also says that my happier personality has made my face look more feminine lately, so yay! <3
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Post by: anais on April 24, 2014, 09:25:13 PM
Quote from: Sydney_NYC on April 24, 2014, 05:28:08 PM
I think that you do pass. (Maybe as a cis-woman with some masculine traits, but I don't see anything that screams male or transgender.) We are our worse critic and I have the same problem where everyone tells me I pass, but when I look in the mirror, I see mostly male. For some odd reason, when I look at a photo of myself, I'm starting to see more female than male in myself.
I still present as male, kinda waiting till I'm passable to take the step and go full time but I think I'll never be able to see myself as female. Not much has changed since I transitioned, I lost weight but mostly I still look the same. Maybe with some drastic change like ffs I'll be able to see myself as female.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
Warning: Hot Mess Alert!!!
I felt like showing some pictures of how I look since it's been a while. Today my sister and I spoke on the phone and had a good conversaition; however, I could get from her tone that she doesn't feel I'll be able to blend or pass. So, I want honest opinions, that are done in a considerate way. Do you think I have the potential to one day pass? I'm not trying in this photo nor do I feel that I do, but I'm just seeing how people see me. Since I'm still aiming for around June, it's nice to get as much feedback as possible. I know there is only so much people can say and it's not a guarantee that I will pass, but it's helpful to hear your initial thoughts. Just be honest and considerate of my feelings. Thanks!
Just a heads up, I have no makeup on and pretty much just too a photo of me lying around my house. So yeah, I'm a hot mess. I'm well aware that I have severe racoon eyes, but I can't get rid of it without makeup. I promise you I wasn't out all night partying, lol. I'm just laying around looking a mess and drinking my coffee while reading foreign affairs, lol. Party! :D
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nkSGLH)20140425_114514 (https://flic.kr/p/nkSGLH) by LTL89 (https://www.flickr.com/people/118627967@N03/)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/13985270426_d94e11c82e_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/niQaEb)20140425_114616 (https://flic.kr/p/niQaEb) by LTL89 (https://www.flickr.com/people/118627967@N03/), on Flickr
I felt like showing some pictures of how I look since it's been a while. Today my sister and I spoke on the phone and had a good conversaition; however, I could get from her tone that she doesn't feel I'll be able to blend or pass. So, I want honest opinions, that are done in a considerate way. Do you think I have the potential to one day pass? I'm not trying in this photo nor do I feel that I do, but I'm just seeing how people see me. Since I'm still aiming for around June, it's nice to get as much feedback as possible. I know there is only so much people can say and it's not a guarantee that I will pass, but it's helpful to hear your initial thoughts. Just be honest and considerate of my feelings. Thanks!
Just a heads up, I have no makeup on and pretty much just too a photo of me lying around my house. So yeah, I'm a hot mess. I'm well aware that I have severe racoon eyes, but I can't get rid of it without makeup. I promise you I wasn't out all night partying, lol. I'm just laying around looking a mess and drinking my coffee while reading foreign affairs, lol. Party! :D
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nkSGLH)20140425_114514 (https://flic.kr/p/nkSGLH) by LTL89 (https://www.flickr.com/people/118627967@N03/)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:31:28 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:31:28 AM
@ltl
In the first pick you look female to me , in the second kinda androgynous...
Im pretty sure that a hairstyle with bangs would look great on you and help you pass better...
btw those racoon eyes look cute :D
In the first pick you look female to me , in the second kinda androgynous...
Im pretty sure that a hairstyle with bangs would look great on you and help you pass better...
btw those racoon eyes look cute :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:31:28 AM
@ltl
In the first pick you look female to me , in the second kinda androgynous...
Im pretty sure that a hairstyle with bangs would look great on you and help you pass better...
btw those racoon eyes look cute :D
Thanks for the feedback, especially for the honesty. I think I still look andro too. I'm getting a bit worried about whether or not I'll ever leave this stage. It's my biggest concern as I don't think I'll ever really pass. Well, thanks for the compliment on my racoon eyes, but they drive me crazy and never go away. It's the bane of my existence, lol. Thanks again.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
Warning: Hot Mess Alert!!!
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Androgynous similar to me. Makeup will tip you easily over to the feminine side.
I do see some mustache growth, that has to go. Otherwise you're in the top 15% in this place! Thumbs up!
How long on HRT?
Oh and a flat iron will really finish you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:40:42 AM
Androgynous similar to me. Makeup will tip you easily over to the feminine side.
I do see some mustache growth, that has to go. Otherwise you're in the top 15% in this place! Thumbs up!
How long on HRT?
Oh and a flat iron will really finish you!
Yeah, I didn't shave this morning until after the photos were taken. And usually I use a flat iron after showering, though not in this pick. Like I said, hot mess,lol.
I started Estrogen in June and Spiro in July. However, the doses were on the lower side, and I didn't get my current dose (that actually works) until Ocotober.
I would be fine with being andro if it hasn't been so long that I started on hrt. I feel like this is my plateu and that I'll never leave the andro mode. My sister was warning me of this today, so I'm just seeing what others think. I just want to be able to leave this place and be 100 percent female looking without even needing effort, ya know? But I don't think that's to happen.
Thanks for the top 15 percent comment. I don't agree with that assesment, but it's nice of you to say.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on April 25, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
Post by: crowcrow223 on April 25, 2014, 11:51:34 AM
Taking into consideration you're pre-hrt, you look amazing! You look like a woman to me. You just got a bit of discolouration and others things others mentioned, but I am surprised, you look very good!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
learning, give it a full year. I actually see a lot of you in me lol. How about glasses?
Your hair have highlights?
Also what's up with your dark circles? I get that too a lot from sleep issues. But I wonder how that effects your passability.
Your hair have highlights?
Also what's up with your dark circles? I get that too a lot from sleep issues. But I wonder how that effects your passability.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 11:36:25 AM
Thanks for the feedback, especially for the honesty. I think I still look andro too. I'm getting a bit worried about whether or not I'll ever leave this stage. It's my biggest concern as I don't think I'll ever really pass. Well, thanks for the compliment on my racoon eyes, but they drive me crazy and never go away. It's the bane of my existence, lol. Thanks again.
Well Im in the same stage too
I dunno ,,,maybe one day this stage will end sometimes it really gets me down too, to be honest...
but im telling you im sure you pass to some people at least...
for example when I go out some people sir me some people ma'am me , especially when im with girls...so that helps I guess...
I guess we need to wait...
Why would I want to have black circles under my eyes? is it somekind of fetish XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 12:00:36 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 11:53:33 AM
learning, give it a full year. I actually see a lot of you in me lol. How about glasses?
Your hair have highlights?
Also what's up with your dark circles? I get that too a lot from sleep issues. But I wonder how that effects your passability.
By June it will be a year, so I guess that's fine anyway. I'll go full time by the Summer as long as I can leave this andro nightmare. I hope that will happen.
I don't have glasses
My hair has some natural highlights to it. I do plan on getting light brown hightlights once I go full time. While I'm living as a boy that would be a bit too weird, lol.
I don't know. I'm always like this. I look like I'm constantly tired (which I am) or drugged out or something. I hate it, but that's how I look like without concealer.
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 11:56:43 AM
Well Im in the same stage too
I dunno ,,,maybe one day this stage will end sometimes it really gets me down too, to be honest...
but im telling you im sure you pass to some people at least...
for example when I go out some people sir me some people ma'am me , especially when im with girls...so that helps I guess...
I guess we need to wait...
Why would I want to have black circles under my eyes? is it somekind of fetish XD
Yeah, I do pass to some people, but I want to pass like all the time. And I'd like to do that effortlessly and not feel like I have to put on a costume to be myself. Sorry you are going through it too. It sucks. The problem with me is I've been on hrt for a while.
I don't know why anyone would want black circles, lol. It's horrible, but I can't get rid of it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on April 25, 2014, 12:45:59 PM
Post by: stephaniec on April 25, 2014, 12:45:59 PM
I don't know if this is what you have ,but I knew a girl once with that condition of the eye's and it was because of the veins, you can get rid of it with laser
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 12:51:28 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on April 25, 2014, 12:45:59 PM
I don't know if this is what you have ,but I knew a girl once with that condition of the eye's and it was because of the veins, you can get rid of it with laser
I know, it's really bad. Probably is something like that or the fact that I haven't had natural sleep without medication in quite some time. In any case, concealer works very well. Most girls depend on makeup, so I guess the same is true for me.
By the way, does anyone have any tips that can help me pass? Besides makeup and the obvious, I am open to ideas. I need to get passed this sometime soon.
@ Chic, your posts look good for someone pre-hrt. I'm sure you'll do really good! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on April 25, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on April 25, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
LTL, I like the pictures. You look female to me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 01:22:46 PM
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on April 25, 2014, 01:10:17 PM
LTL, I like the pictures. You look female to me.
Thanks. It does make me feel good to hear that. I still feel like I look andro, but at least it's not as bad as I make it. Maybe I will have hope in the future. I just hope this isn't as good as it gets. My family keeps telling me not to get to hopeful and that I will have to deal with the fact that people will see me as a guy. They may be right, but hearing things like this makes me feel better and gives me hope that I'll somewhat pass in a little time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
I feel like posting here too , mainly because Im in a really really wierd situation right now...
So when I go out somepeople gender me male some female , even if they hear my rather masculine voice...
When I look in the mirror I sometimes see a girl and sometimes a guy,,,you can imagine the dysphoria I get when I see a guy and the euphoria when I see a girl ...
Please give me honest opinions I want to know the truth...
Im not even trying to present female but I want to know wth does my appearance resemble...
these pics are make up free...unlike most pics that I have posted here,,,I consider this to be my androgynous mode
though I believe I look more masculine in pics than I normally do...
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
this one just a casual
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and another casual
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I really dont know how I look please help me understand
So when I go out somepeople gender me male some female , even if they hear my rather masculine voice...
When I look in the mirror I sometimes see a girl and sometimes a guy,,,you can imagine the dysphoria I get when I see a guy and the euphoria when I see a girl ...
Please give me honest opinions I want to know the truth...
Im not even trying to present female but I want to know wth does my appearance resemble...
these pics are make up free...unlike most pics that I have posted here,,,I consider this to be my androgynous mode
though I believe I look more masculine in pics than I normally do...
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
this one just a casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Flgoriarcb%2FSnapshot_20140425_12.jpg&hash=9e09e4f23a63010199208249e0a1f164863aa885) (http://postimg.org/image/lgoriarcb/)
and another casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fm3geqxnib%2FSnapshot_20140425_20.jpg&hash=b033337b5aba5545d14235c0a9c6e37053937016) (http://postimg.org/image/m3geqxnib/)
I really dont know how I look please help me understand
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
The first pic is very female looking and the other two are feminine andro leaning (emphasis on feminine). I think you will be fine. You are very early in the game and still having great results. You have my envy, lol.
I know how the andro stage feels. The desire to just be able to look like you at all times with no effort, yet the mirror beats you down. It sucks and it's awkward feeling, but you won't be there forever from what I can tell in these pics. I really do think you'll be okay.
I know how the andro stage feels. The desire to just be able to look like you at all times with no effort, yet the mirror beats you down. It sucks and it's awkward feeling, but you won't be there forever from what I can tell in these pics. I really do think you'll be okay.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Carlita on April 25, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
Post by: Carlita on April 25, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
The first pic is very female looking and the other two are feminine andro leaning (emphasis on feminine). I think you will be fine. You are very early in the game and still having great results. You have my envy, lol.
I know how the andro stage feels. The desire to just be able to look like you at all times with no effort, yet the mirror beats you down. It sucks and it's awkward feeling, but you won't be there forever from what I can tell in these pics. I really do think you'll be okay.
Every cis-girl in the world feels like that! But very, very few are so pretty, so naturally that they can look the way they want without any effort. So, I don't know if this is any consolation, but you girls are not alone!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on April 25, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
Post by: eggy_nog on April 25, 2014, 02:01:17 PM
Quote from: Carlita on April 25, 2014, 01:35:15 PM
Every cis-girl in the world feels like that! But very, very few are so pretty, so naturally that they can look the way they want without any effort. So, I don't know if this is any consolation, but you girls are not alone!
Beauty is hard work :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
and another casual
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I really dont know how I look please help me understand
How long have you been on HRT? I think if your face puffed out just a liiiitttlle bit in a HRT sort of way, you'll look more fem and softer.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 01:30:45 PM
The first pic is very female looking and the other two are feminine andro leaning (emphasis on feminine). I think you will be fine. You are very early in the game and still having great results. You have my envy, lol.
I know how the andro stage feels. The desire to just be able to look like you at all times with no effort, yet the mirror beats you down. It sucks and it's awkward feeling, but you won't be there forever from what I can tell in these pics. I really do think you'll be okay.
thanks for the reply , I really hope I ll get out of the andro stage soon...
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 25, 2014, 03:26:06 PM
How long have you been on HRT? I think if your face puffed out just a liiiitttlle bit in a HRT sort of way, you'll look more fem and softer.
4 months and 10 days on hrt
I now its still early , I reaaally hope I ll change more
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 25, 2014, 05:58:57 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 05:45:14 PM
thanks for the reply , I really hope I ll get out of the andro stage soon...
4 months and 10 days on hrt
I now its still early , I reaaally hope I ll change more
It's very early. I mean may not have even reached your final dosage. The first few months for me were experimentation and slight increases. Honestly, from what I can see here, I wouldn't worry at all about passing. Of course, we can't forsee everything.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on April 25, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on April 25, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
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I feel that you would be passable - but I know you had trouble last time you went out andro/gender neutral. If you want to pass as female though try using some make up, you look a bit tired and there is some beard shadow which make up should deal with and make a huge difference; your hair is nice but could do with some styling perhaps; your eyebrows could possibly do with some shaping but otherwise you look fine. To be honest, I see a very pretty girl who has some slightly boyish features. The first picture is a bit blurred but, as a result, does for you what some judiciously applied make up could do, cover the beard shadow etc. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 25, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 25, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
LTL, we need to start a "raccoon-eyes" thread because I have that problem too. Maybe we can get more good advice that way. My mom gave me sample packets of "NeoStrata SecureWhite Anti Dark Circle Complex" but it doesn't seem to have helped at all. She actually asked me today if the darkness had gotten worse! :'( (I'm hoping it's just fatigue-related due to the hectic schedule I'm managing fitting in everything I'm doing for transition around my full-time work schedule.)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: WaspWoman on April 25, 2014, 11:25:45 PM
Post by: WaspWoman on April 25, 2014, 11:25:45 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
I think you look very pretty in this first picture and the other two are definitely andro leaning feminine. I can't imagine you needing anything more than a little patience to be consistently gendered female.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: WaspWoman on April 25, 2014, 11:29:21 PM
Post by: WaspWoman on April 25, 2014, 11:29:21 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on April 25, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
I feel that you would be passable - but I know you had trouble last time you went out andro/gender neutral. If you want to pass as female though try using some make up, you look a bit tired and there is some beard shadow which make up should deal with and make a huge difference; your hair is nice but could do with some styling perhaps; your eyebrows could possibly do with some shaping but otherwise you look fine. To be honest, I see a very pretty girl who has some slightly boyish features. The first picture is a bit blurred but, as a result, does for you what some judiciously applied make up could do, cover the beard shadow etc. :)
I think Ms Grace is spot on here, mostly little things along with a dose of confidence (I know, this is the hardest part) and you will be doing just fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on April 26, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
Post by: sad panda on April 26, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
Hey LtL... Brows + clothes will getcha a super long way... =o) I truly think you are almost there, you just have to give yourself a more decidedly female appearance. Maybe some cute accessories. Even just a little eyeliner or mascara might make you mostly passable. Get it gurl!! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:53:26 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:53:26 AM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
I feel like posting here too , mainly because Im in a really really wierd situation right now...
So when I go out somepeople gender me male some female , even if they hear my rather masculine voice...
When I look in the mirror I sometimes see a girl and sometimes a guy,,,you can imagine the dysphoria I get when I see a guy and the euphoria when I see a girl ...
Please give me honest opinions I want to know the truth...
Im not even trying to present female but I want to know wth does my appearance resemble...
these pics are make up free...unlike most pics that I have posted here,,,I consider this to be my androgynous mode
though I believe I look more masculine in pics than I normally do...
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
this one just a casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Flgoriarcb%2FSnapshot_20140425_12.jpg&hash=9e09e4f23a63010199208249e0a1f164863aa885) (http://postimg.org/image/lgoriarcb/)
and another casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs29.postimg.org%2Fm3geqxnib%2FSnapshot_20140425_20.jpg&hash=b033337b5aba5545d14235c0a9c6e37053937016) (http://postimg.org/image/m3geqxnib/)
I really dont know how I look please help me understand
Hey falseprincess, nice to see you! For 4 months you look awesome!! You're at a level that most MTF get to waaaay later on HRT. Im curious, have you gone out full girl mode or are you always andro?
Im sorta in the same boat as you right now at 4 months although I think you're doing waaay better than I am. You just need to get ready to male fail because that's coming soon.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:56:06 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:56:06 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 11:27:09 AM
Warning: Hot Mess Alert!!!
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/nkSGLH)
Pfft, if you're walking around with no make up looking that good, then you're going to do just fine. I mean you look pretty fem to me. Just my 2 cents. ^.^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Carrie Liz on April 26, 2014, 03:18:40 AM
Post by: Carrie Liz on April 26, 2014, 03:18:40 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 25, 2014, 11:48:15 AM
Yeah, I didn't shave this morning until after the photos were taken. And usually I use a flat iron after showering, though not in this pick. Like I said, hot mess,lol.
I started Estrogen in June and Spiro in July. However, the doses were on the lower side, and I didn't get my current dose (that actually works) until Ocotober.
I would be fine with being andro if it hasn't been so long that I started on hrt. I feel like this is my plateu and that I'll never leave the andro mode. My sister was warning me of this today, so I'm just seeing what others think. I just want to be able to leave this place and be 100 percent female looking without even needing effort, ya know? But I don't think that's to happen.
Thanks for the top 15 percent comment. I don't agree with that assesment, but it's nice of you to say.
Holy smokes, LtL, you've only been on full-dose HRT for 6 months and you're already worrying that you've plateaued and that you're not going to get any further feminization? You've got to quit worrying, girl! You're still in the infancy stages of transition! At 6 months, you're only about 30% done with all the changes that you'll get. Heck, the most significant facial changes for just about everyone really don't happen until the second year. You want to know what I looked like at 6 months? https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/933970_653580478141_527629252_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/933970_653580478141_527629252_n.jpg) Yeah... compare that to the recent photos that I've been taking, and you'll see that you basically have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I WISH I had facial features as good as yours. You have a very soft round face, almost no brow bossing, and your eyes sparkle even in "hot mess" mode. Yes, it might take a while for HRT to soften everything up completely, and especially for the rest of your body's muscle to atrophy. But you are definitely going to get there with a face that looks like that. If I can pass close to 100% with the sheer amount of brow bossing that I have, plus my prominent jaw and chin, plus my much-more-masculine nose, plus with hair that is like half as pretty as yours, plus as a freaking 6'2" person with wide shoulders and a large ribcage, you seriously have nothing to worry about. Just give it time.
The only thing I'm worried about with you is that you're not going to have the courage to try the feminine things that are necessary to truly let you assimilate. At some point, even if you've basically arrived on the other shore appearance-wise, you're going to have to go out and explore... go out and learn, go out and immerse yourself in the culture. Otherwise you're always going to feel like a tourist in a foreign land rather than one of the locals.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on April 26, 2014, 03:42:34 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on April 26, 2014, 03:42:34 AM
What Carrie said. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 03:47:40 AM
Post by: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 03:47:40 AM
@learningtolive, You Totally look like Arya Stark
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2012%2F019%2F1%2Fa%2Farya_stark_by_ohsono-d4luvj3.png&hash=b3e5234a196a089e185f9338005e65b51170d4f3)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/13985270426_d94e11c82e_z.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7SxWQtGO3NtdoCnNjwBC3cCiMdYUDXZyda1BmhJUlAtcWzP7n)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjmPX3kGboBhfks2G7aIguc63CEwZEiP4gZQpy2lupsRtWsd32WQ)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2012%2F019%2F1%2Fa%2Farya_stark_by_ohsono-d4luvj3.png&hash=b3e5234a196a089e185f9338005e65b51170d4f3)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/13985270426_d94e11c82e_z.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7SxWQtGO3NtdoCnNjwBC3cCiMdYUDXZyda1BmhJUlAtcWzP7n)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjmPX3kGboBhfks2G7aIguc63CEwZEiP4gZQpy2lupsRtWsd32WQ)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 04:53:26 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 04:53:26 AM
Thank you everyone! Yeah, I was a total mess in these photos, but I'm glad people think I'm even okay then. I had literally gotten off the phone with my sister and started to panic about my appearance. She kind of said that she doesn't think I'll pass, but she was totally supportive and helpful. Still that one comment lingered with me.
Thanks! I was a big mess that morning when I took the photo. Usually, I style my hair for a long time before leaving the house, and I still need to shave even though I'm doing laser. Neither of these things were done. As for the brows, these seem the best I can get them. Before I go full time, I will get them done. And of course makeup will help. I wish I could get rid of these racoon eyes without it.
I've done everything that I can. I think it's probably the result of life style choices that need big changing. If you abuse your body, it will cry out in some way.
Thanks, I'll keep trying the confidence thing as best I can! :)
Yeah, I have a lot more feminine clothes, but I was laying around in this. I just feel fat in my girl clothes and am a bit embarrassed about posting right now. Thanks for the makeup suggestion. I love eye makeup especially as it always makes me look better. Well that and concealer.
Thank you. :)
Thanks Carrie. You always find a way to make me feel better with the info you share. It's appreciated. :)
@ Jennifer. L I'm not sure who she is, but as long as she's a girl.... :)
Quote from: Ms Grace on April 25, 2014, 09:16:32 PM
I feel that you would be passable - but I know you had trouble last time you went out andro/gender neutral. If you want to pass as female though try using some make up, you look a bit tired and there is some beard shadow which make up should deal with and make a huge difference; your hair is nice but could do with some styling perhaps; your eyebrows could possibly do with some shaping but otherwise you look fine. To be honest, I see a very pretty girl who has some slightly boyish features. The first picture is a bit blurred but, as a result, does for you what some judiciously applied make up could do, cover the beard shadow etc. :)
Thanks! I was a big mess that morning when I took the photo. Usually, I style my hair for a long time before leaving the house, and I still need to shave even though I'm doing laser. Neither of these things were done. As for the brows, these seem the best I can get them. Before I go full time, I will get them done. And of course makeup will help. I wish I could get rid of these racoon eyes without it.
Quote from: Violet Bloom on April 25, 2014, 11:03:03 PM
LTL, we need to start a "raccoon-eyes" thread because I have that problem too. Maybe we can get more good advice that way. My mom gave me sample packets of "NeoStrata SecureWhite Anti Dark Circle Complex" but it doesn't seem to have helped at all. She actually asked me today if the darkness had gotten worse! :'( (I'm hoping it's just fatigue-related due to the hectic schedule I'm managing fitting in everything I'm doing for transition around my full-time work schedule.)
I've done everything that I can. I think it's probably the result of life style choices that need big changing. If you abuse your body, it will cry out in some way.
Quote from: AnnaLee on April 25, 2014, 11:29:21 PM
I think Ms Grace is spot on here, mostly little things along with a dose of confidence (I know, this is the hardest part) and you will be doing just fine.
Thanks, I'll keep trying the confidence thing as best I can! :)
Quote from: sad panda on April 26, 2014, 01:56:56 AM
Hey LtL... Brows + clothes will getcha a super long way... =o) I truly think you are almost there, you just have to give yourself a more decidedly female appearance. Maybe some cute accessories. Even just a little eyeliner or mascara might make you mostly passable. Get it gurl!! :D
Yeah, I have a lot more feminine clothes, but I was laying around in this. I just feel fat in my girl clothes and am a bit embarrassed about posting right now. Thanks for the makeup suggestion. I love eye makeup especially as it always makes me look better. Well that and concealer.
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:56:06 AM
Pfft, if you're walking around with no make up looking that good, then you're going to do just fine. I mean you look pretty fem to me. Just my 2 cents. ^.^
Thank you. :)
Quote from: Carrie Liz on April 26, 2014, 03:18:40 AM
Holy smokes, LtL, you've only been on full-dose HRT for 6 months and you're already worrying that you've plateaued and that you're not going to get any further feminization? You've got to quit worrying, girl! You're still in the infancy stages of transition! At 6 months, you're only about 30% done with all the changes that you'll get. Heck, the most significant facial changes for just about everyone really don't happen until the second year. You want to know what I looked like at 6 months? https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/933970_653580478141_527629252_n.jpg (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1.0-9/933970_653580478141_527629252_n.jpg) Yeah... compare that to the recent photos that I've been taking, and you'll see that you basically have absolutely nothing to worry about.
I WISH I had facial features as good as yours. You have a very soft round face, almost no brow bossing, and your eyes sparkle even in "hot mess" mode. Yes, it might take a while for HRT to soften everything up completely, and especially for the rest of your body's muscle to atrophy. But you are definitely going to get there with a face that looks like that. If I can pass close to 100% with the sheer amount of brow bossing that I have, plus my prominent jaw and chin, plus my much-more-masculine nose, plus with hair that is like half as pretty as yours, plus as a freaking 6'2" person with wide shoulders and a large ribcage, you seriously have nothing to worry about. Just give it time.
The only thing I'm worried about with you is that you're not going to have the courage to try the feminine things that are necessary to truly let you assimilate. At some point, even if you've basically arrived on the other shore appearance-wise, you're going to have to go out and explore... go out and learn, go out and immerse yourself in the culture. Otherwise you're always going to feel like a tourist in a foreign land rather than one of the locals.
Thanks Carrie. You always find a way to make me feel better with the info you share. It's appreciated. :)
@ Jennifer. L I'm not sure who she is, but as long as she's a girl.... :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 26, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 26, 2014, 10:27:06 AM
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on April 26, 2014, 02:53:26 AM
Hey falseprincess, nice to see you! For 4 months you look awesome!! You're at a level that most MTF get to waaaay later on HRT. Im curious, have you gone out full girl mode or are you always andro?
thanks
most time im andro , sometimes when I feel like it I go out with full female clothes but they re still ando and not overly feminine,,,
im sure though that I get less looks when I wear female clothes and less looks in general as time passes...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 11:18:31 AM
Post by: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 11:18:31 AM
@learningtolive
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You.... um you don't watch Game of Thones? Arya is the adorable daughter of Lord Stark the runs off after some one is beheaded. shes most definitely a girl and you could be sisters. Lord girl, your all sorts of natural pretty. Give it a year and I bet you'll have a hard time convencing people you where ever a boy. frankly you don't look anything like a boy xD.
o.O
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You.... um you don't watch Game of Thones? Arya is the adorable daughter of Lord Stark the runs off after some one is beheaded. shes most definitely a girl and you could be sisters. Lord girl, your all sorts of natural pretty. Give it a year and I bet you'll have a hard time convencing people you where ever a boy. frankly you don't look anything like a boy xD.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 11:46:32 AM
Quote from: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 11:18:31 AM
@learningtolive
o.O
O.o
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You.... um you don't watch Game of Thones? Arya is the adorable daughter of Lord Stark the runs off after some one is beheaded. shes most definitely a girl and you could be sisters. Lord girl, your all sorts of natural pretty. Give it a year and I bet you'll have a hard time convencing people you where ever a boy. frankly you don't look anything like a boy xD.
I've never seen the show. To be honest, I don't watch TV, though I've been a little better since I got netflix as a gift. Still haven't gotten to Game of Thrones yet.
Aww, I really appreciate it. I've been feeling really bad about myself as a person and my appearance. You, and everyone else here, really helped cheer me up. Thank you for that. You all helped me more than you know. I'll make it someday and have the life I want. Just got to work a little more and give it some time. Thanks everyone for putting things into a realistic perspective. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JadeFla on April 26, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
Post by: JadeFla on April 26, 2014, 03:01:34 PM
I'm pre-everything but this is a crappy webcam pic of me kind of unkept. I don't know if I'll ever be able to pass.
Edit:
So much for a picture. Flickr sucks!!!
Edit:
So much for a picture. Flickr sucks!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 26, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
Post by: barbie on April 26, 2014, 05:04:45 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
I feel like posting here too , mainly because Im in a really really wierd situation right now...
So when I go out somepeople gender me male some female , even if they hear my rather masculine voice...
When I look in the mirror I sometimes see a girl and sometimes a guy,,,you can imagine the dysphoria I get when I see a guy and the euphoria when I see a girl ...
Please give me honest opinions I want to know the truth...
Im not even trying to present female but I want to know wth does my appearance resemble...
these pics are make up free...unlike most pics that I have posted here,,,I consider this to be my androgynous mode
though I believe I look more masculine in pics than I normally do...
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
this one just a casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Flgoriarcb%2FSnapshot_20140425_12.jpg&hash=9e09e4f23a63010199208249e0a1f164863aa885) (http://postimg.org/image/lgoriarcb/)
and another casual
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I really dont know how I look please help me understand
Yes. Photos and real life are different, but you look very feminine to my eyes. Be confident!
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 05:27:13 PM
Quote from: kate on April 26, 2014, 07:38:57 AM
I'm itching to see what you look like Evelyn.
I'd reveal myself only if I knew it was the best version of me. I'm not there yet. I never like to disappoint.
The folly of a perfectionist...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Bombadil on April 26, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
Post by: Bombadil on April 26, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
LearningToLive - Hi, I hit this thread by accident but since I'm here I'll butt in. I think you pass and are cute. You have a great face and eyes. As far as the raccoon eyes go, do you have allergies. I've been told by doctors that's a cause.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 05:58:23 PM
Quote from: christopher on April 26, 2014, 05:45:33 PM
LearningToLive - Hi, I hit this thread by accident but since I'm here I'll butt in. I think you pass and are cute. You have a great face and eyes. As far as the raccoon eyes go, do you have allergies. I've been told by doctors that's a cause.
Aww, thank you! I really needed to hear that right now. I'm a bit of a mess at the moment, so it makes me feel nice.
I don't know why I get that. It's really bad though. I don't think it's allergies, though it may be just a result of poor lifestyle choices and sleep deprivation.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
ltl, the more I see your photo's the more I think your fem. The line is so blurred that a simple tweek in lighting is probably all that would matter.
So many CIS gals look drab without makeup. What makes you different? (see where I'm going here?)
Mila Kunis for example
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi58.tinypic.com%2F24ot102.jpg&hash=304adc9d2219ce110223e2b05ad42ddac77acfe3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F21dpuo1.jpg&hash=b3ffdf7bd54a7e029141f2754968cb8b994de52e)
So many CIS gals look drab without makeup. What makes you different? (see where I'm going here?)
Mila Kunis for example
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi58.tinypic.com%2F24ot102.jpg&hash=304adc9d2219ce110223e2b05ad42ddac77acfe3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F21dpuo1.jpg&hash=b3ffdf7bd54a7e029141f2754968cb8b994de52e)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
ltl, the more I see your photo's the more I think your fem. The line is so blurred that a simple tweek in lighting is probably all that would matter.
So many CIS gals look drab without makeup. What makes you different? (see where I'm going here?)
Mila Kunis for example
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi58.tinypic.com%2F24ot102.jpg&hash=304adc9d2219ce110223e2b05ad42ddac77acfe3)
I guess I just don't like that I need make up in order to pass. Okay, all girls need it to look pretty, but to pass? That's generally not true. Mila never looks like a boy. I guess that's my issue. I love makeup and it makes me feel better, but I don't like needing it just to be me. Like it should be an accessory and not part of a costume, ya know?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Give HRT some time. But I think for 95% of us in trans we need makeup to pass.
Unfortunately.
Like I said, you're in the top 15% in this place. And the top 3% WITHOUT MAKEUP!
Unofficial assessment mind you. :D
Unfortunately.
Like I said, you're in the top 15% in this place. And the top 3% WITHOUT MAKEUP!
Unofficial assessment mind you. :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 26, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:26:50 PM
Give HRT some time. But I think for 95% of us in trans we need makeup to pass.
Unfortunately.
Like I said, you're in the top 15% in this place. And the top 3% WITHOUT MAKEUP!
Unofficial assessment mind you. :D
Thanks! You're right. My therapist was reminding me eariler today that I haven't been on hrt too long and almost half of that was on a minimal dose compared to what most girls take. I just want to have a life now. I'm done being the "boy" who cries in his room all day hoping to be a girl.
Thank you for the top 3 percent statement. That makes me feel good even though I;m not really there, lol. Thanks everyone and sorry for me being the emotional basket case I am.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 07:37:10 PM
Yeah you are kind of emotional. You quite honestly are pretty far ahead compared to many of the gals here.
I think it's time to back your looks up with an ego. You more than qualify to have one. Ease up on yourself girlfriend... I don't know why you wallow in despair so much. It's unfounded.
I think it's time to back your looks up with an ego. You more than qualify to have one. Ease up on yourself girlfriend... I don't know why you wallow in despair so much. It's unfounded.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on April 27, 2014, 01:07:36 AM
Post by: katiej on April 27, 2014, 01:07:36 AM
I have to admit that I really like the websites of celebrities without makeup. And like others have said, it should give us (and all cis girls) hope. Mila Kunis is one of the most beautiful young actresses, and those non made up photos are borderline scary :)
I'd recommend spending some time on YouTube watching makeup tutorials. There are a bunch of them about how to do a minimalist look. Bubzbeauty even has one for when you're sick but need to do a quick makeup job to run to the drugstore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KA6aYpy7Y
I'd recommend spending some time on YouTube watching makeup tutorials. There are a bunch of them about how to do a minimalist look. Bubzbeauty even has one for when you're sick but need to do a quick makeup job to run to the drugstore. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u7KA6aYpy7Y
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on April 27, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on April 27, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 26, 2014, 06:23:40 PM
I guess I just don't like that I need make up in order to pass. Okay, all girls need it to look pretty, but to pass? That's generally not true. Mila never looks like a boy. I guess that's my issue. I love makeup and it makes me feel better, but I don't like needing it just to be me. Like it should be an accessory and not part of a costume, ya know?
Most likely you won't need it eventually, but at the moment, just to deal with beard shadow and to highlight other features that are still softening out, then yes maybe it wouldn't hurt. Personally I don't like that I need to put the stuff on either - I'm mid way through electro and still get some beard/mo shadow which I feel very self conscious about. The make-up smooths it away - once the electro is eventually over then I'm hoping I won't need to use it at all for most day-to-day stuff.
Make up can and should be fun. Costume? Maybe? I dunno. It doesn't have to be. I mean likewise I need to wear a wig, I'd rather not, but if I didn't I wouldn't pass at all, simple as that. But is it part of a costume? Sometimes I wonder if it is, but then there are plenty of women (cis and trans) who wear wigs for any number of reasons. Does that make it a costume piece, an accessory? I'd love not to wear it but feminine features or not I do not pass without it. So it is essential if I want to live my life as a woman. It was just a reality I needed to face if I wanted to transition.
Y'know, I know I keep harping on about my first tilt at transition (and I will shut up if you want me to), but I had a similar attitude - I wanted to not have to wear make up, I wanted to wear the cool andro/boy like clothes trendy girls my age were wearing but the minute I did I always got misgendered and then I'd get depressed about it. Rather than admitting I maybe needed to give some ground and not be so stubborn and maybe use a bit of foundation or not wear a particular cut of jeans or style of shoes I gave up instead.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: NikkiRincon on April 27, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
Post by: NikkiRincon on April 27, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
All these pictures are before hrt. I'm in my 2nd weeks of HRT right now. Since I already look feminine naturally, I wonder if HRT will help me more with that or not. I also would like to get some hips and ass, hopefully that will come in later in my transition. Sigh! I have a lot of fat in my belly, that's all it goes to. Everywhere else I'm pretty normal to skinny.
Before shaved my hair off october of last year.
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This one with no hair, I shaved it all of last year because I wanted to start all over.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147567856398175.jpeg&hash=66e7a10818b0c56bc1571cbc5ecf840cebf226fe)
Halloween of last year. :) It was fun. My first time actually dressing up for Halloween.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147553159917972.jpeg&hash=c83e2f0ac8639741e3a14470356e21f37fd99782)
Me in bed without my makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147466033710819.jpeg&hash=e606275efd23cefdfce6a05bdd30d9df9a71eda6)
I had glue in extensions, but took them off after 2 days because it was bothering me and did not blend
with my short hair. I feel better with my natural hair because I can do anything with it and it doesn't
make me look too asian like the extensions does lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2F2014-04-16%252019.30.15.jpg&hash=3d3888275cd2c126297571d23f34afb44b8caa83)
I have to admit, I love my legs. It's like the one thing people notice about me too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147501045359763.jpeg&hash=ca4cfc490ef8510974c229146754b62fee83d104)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147449422370825.jpeg&hash=90d172270327a5ae00f6d963b28bb18390418eaf)
Ok gotta put the hands in there too. Thanks god I have small hands and feet. Even though I'm 5'8"
My brother on the other hand is younger than me, bigger hands, feet, and height.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147441404675516.jpeg&hash=ebd6ced08fd062e19b1de926c933dd6cdb1d41e0) (http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Khmerbodianz/media/IMG_147441404675516.jpeg.html)
Before shaved my hair off october of last year.
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This one with no hair, I shaved it all of last year because I wanted to start all over.
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Halloween of last year. :) It was fun. My first time actually dressing up for Halloween.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147553159917972.jpeg&hash=c83e2f0ac8639741e3a14470356e21f37fd99782)
Me in bed without my makeup.
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I had glue in extensions, but took them off after 2 days because it was bothering me and did not blend
with my short hair. I feel better with my natural hair because I can do anything with it and it doesn't
make me look too asian like the extensions does lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2F2014-04-16%252019.30.15.jpg&hash=3d3888275cd2c126297571d23f34afb44b8caa83)
I have to admit, I love my legs. It's like the one thing people notice about me too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147501045359763.jpeg&hash=ca4cfc490ef8510974c229146754b62fee83d104)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147449422370825.jpeg&hash=90d172270327a5ae00f6d963b28bb18390418eaf)
Ok gotta put the hands in there too. Thanks god I have small hands and feet. Even though I'm 5'8"
My brother on the other hand is younger than me, bigger hands, feet, and height.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147441404675516.jpeg&hash=ebd6ced08fd062e19b1de926c933dd6cdb1d41e0) (http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Khmerbodianz/media/IMG_147441404675516.jpeg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 27, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Post by: Violet Bloom on April 27, 2014, 09:43:43 AM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 26, 2014, 06:33:16 PM
Thanks! You're right. My therapist was reminding me eariler today that I haven't been on hrt too long and almost half of that was on a minimal dose compared to what most girls take. I just want to have a life now. I'm done being the "boy" who cries in his room all day hoping to be a girl.
Absolutely give it time and don't stress about it. I feel pretty lucky about my looks but you're better off in that department than I am. I just went through a year of laser and half a year of ramping HRT and I was feeling so awesome about how my face and neck looked and how smooth it was after shaving. Minimal makeup used too. Now I moved on to electrolysis, and while I don't shave any longer I have to live with at times a very fuzzy face. I realized right away that the amount of concealer required to hide all this hair would actually make me look worse and call more attention to it. I understand that for the next little while I'm going to be 'trapped in the middle' between genders to some extent and I just have to live with it. I've actually dropped makeup entirely for the moment. I do feel awkward right now in a way I haven't felt for a long time but I'm better off not stressing about it. There's no way to speed up the clock but the results will arrive soon enough. Given that I also just started voice therapy I have more important lessons to learn right now in regards to passing until that time comes.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on April 27, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
Post by: Mermaid on April 27, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 25, 2014, 01:25:13 PM
I feel like posting here too , mainly because Im in a really really wierd situation right now...
So when I go out somepeople gender me male some female , even if they hear my rather masculine voice...
When I look in the mirror I sometimes see a girl and sometimes a guy,,,you can imagine the dysphoria I get when I see a guy and the euphoria when I see a girl ...
Please give me honest opinions I want to know the truth...
Im not even trying to present female but I want to know wth does my appearance resemble...
these pics are make up free...unlike most pics that I have posted here,,,I consider this to be my androgynous mode
though I believe I look more masculine in pics than I normally do...
this one is with nicely done hair ready to go out
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs4.postimg.org%2Fbqaixwcvd%2FSnapshot_20140415_2.jpg&hash=8b103b1ea75d4196019fd7a441ef0347996f0e11) (http://postimg.org/image/bqaixwcvd/)
this one just a casual
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2Flgoriarcb%2FSnapshot_20140425_12.jpg&hash=9e09e4f23a63010199208249e0a1f164863aa885) (http://postimg.org/image/lgoriarcb/)
and another casual
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I really dont know how I look please help me understand
I'll be super honest... I'd have no idea how to gender you >.<
The first pic I think looks more male than female, but the other two I see a female more than a male. It's super confusing! Obviously though, you're attractive in both of them, I think that's the most important thing, but if I was on a contest and had to guess your birth-sex... I'd be in trouble, lol.
I think you're very ambiguous, there's absolutely nothing about you that screams "male!", but when I appraise your whole face it's super confusing! I think there's two things contributing to this... The countour of your cheeks and the width/shape of your chin. I'll explain why I think that is... Put your hand on your screen to cover your face in the picture, like if you were wearing a veil? Seeing only your eyes. Then slowly slide your hand down, once you start to uncover the cheeks, that's when the picture starts to become more ambiguous, at least in my opinion. Try it with different parts of your face, like covering everyhing above the mouth for example.
Actually, after doing it again, I don't even think the width/shape of your chin is an issue at all, it's just the cheeks that contrast with it... if your cheeks were fuller, your chin would appear rounder.
All in all, I think you really go both ways? Like, depending on the rest of your body, you could be gendered male or female, and I sincerely think you're way more likely to be gendered female if you present feminine.
Hope my analysis isn't offensive! I think I said it in another post, but you look super attractive. I see a lot of people obsessing over masculine/feminine features, when in reality beauty is not about that. Either the package's appealing, or it's not. Have you ever looked at Baywatch's cast? Each of those women have jaws that make them look like they've been chewing on concrete for a decade, yet they were sex symbols of their time and are very attractive. Like I said, it's not linear. Feminine features don't equate beauty, I see cisgirls all the time who look drab/dull and their face is all feminine... yet if you see a stunning woman, she's as likely to have one or another masculine feature as she is to looking entirely feminine. Beauty is about how the package comes together...
In the end, everything's interesting if you're interested in it, and you've an interesting face. Not just my opinion, I'd think this would be a general consensus, your face's pretty unique, which you should be proud of.
Hope this post was helpful... I think when cispeople look at each other, they're not thinking "that's male" or "that's female"... but more like "that's hot!" and "that's not!"... in your case, you're hot! =)
I think you should focus more on if you look good, rather than trying to define your looks as pertaining to either gender, because I think in your case you can easily be perceived as female if you want, just depends on the social setting... after that, you've the advantage of having an interesting face. I can't speak for others of course, but I'd imagine people who like women to be more attracted to you than an average cisgirl, because really, the average person isn't really attractive... Though take this comment at face-value, since I only saw your face in the pictures, I know nothing about your body or your voice, which also factor in (to a lesser extent).
Hope my "analysis" boosted your confidence, I kind of don't like posting here much, unless I think I can say something particularly helpful that others haven't said before...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
@mermaid
wow thanks for this in depth analysis XD
Ive been waiting for something like this +rep of course...
Hhhm so I guess I do look like a hybrid after all XD
maybe I should take advantage of that XD and present differently each day for fun XD
About my voice , well I thought it was completely male ultil I had some people gendering me female after hearing it and I was like "wtf didnt you heard my voice" buuut I guess its androgynous too after all :/
And my body , I am tall for a girl 1.77cm but still in female normal range I guess , my shoulders are kinda broad but since I ve also got gendered female from behind I guess its not really an issue, im very thin too.
Overall you did boost my confidence I really needed that so thanks :)
Other people have told me that I am attractive but I guess the hate I developed for my body kinda prevents me from being able to see it ...but things seem to improve everyday...
Im thinking that I should change my hair colour but I dont know what colour I should do XD
wow thanks for this in depth analysis XD
Ive been waiting for something like this +rep of course...
Hhhm so I guess I do look like a hybrid after all XD
maybe I should take advantage of that XD and present differently each day for fun XD
About my voice , well I thought it was completely male ultil I had some people gendering me female after hearing it and I was like "wtf didnt you heard my voice" buuut I guess its androgynous too after all :/
And my body , I am tall for a girl 1.77cm but still in female normal range I guess , my shoulders are kinda broad but since I ve also got gendered female from behind I guess its not really an issue, im very thin too.
Overall you did boost my confidence I really needed that so thanks :)
Other people have told me that I am attractive but I guess the hate I developed for my body kinda prevents me from being able to see it ...but things seem to improve everyday...
Im thinking that I should change my hair colour but I dont know what colour I should do XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on April 27, 2014, 10:39:02 AM
Post by: katiej on April 27, 2014, 10:39:02 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on April 27, 2014, 09:47:13 AM
I think when cispeople look at each other, they're not thinking "that's male" or "that's female"... but more like "that's hot!" and "that's not!"... in your case, you're hot! =)
I think this is a really good point, and this is why they say that confidence is a huge part of passing. If your attitude and mannerisms matches your hair, makeup, and clothes, then it doesn't matter that your (insert facial feature that's a little too masculine).
And all ciswomen have at least one feature they hate, it's just part of scrutinizing our looks which is something most men don't do.
IMO the only time it really does make a diffidence in passibility is when it's something testosterone-fueled that a ciswoman couldn't have -- low voice, receding hairline, beard shadow, etc.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 10:31:41 AM
@mermaid
wow thanks for this in depth analysis XD
Ive been waiting for something like this +rep of course...
Hhhm so I guess I do look like a hybrid after all XD
maybe I should take advantage of that XD and present differently each day for fun XD
About my voice , well I thought it was completely male ultil I had some people gendering me female after hearing it and I was like "wtf didnt you heard my voice" buuut I guess its androgynous too after all :/
And my body , I am tall for a girl 1.77cm but still in female normal range I guess , my shoulders are kinda broad but since I ve also got gendered female from behind I guess its not really an issue, im very thin too.
Overall you did boost my confidence I really needed that so thanks :)
Other people have told me that I am attractive but I guess the hate I developed for my body kinda prevents me from being able to see it ...but things seem to improve everyday...
Im thinking that I should change my hair colour but I dont know what colour I should do XD
You really are well on your way. I think hormones will continue to do wonders if you just give a little time. In the meantime, makeup and continue voice training will likely help a lot.
I like your hair color, though I was wondering if you have ever thought about highlights? Maybe it's just me, but I think they look great and it sort of enhances how our face is seen.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 27, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
Post by: barbie on April 27, 2014, 12:51:41 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on April 26, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
ltl, the more I see your photo's the more I think your fem. The line is so blurred that a simple tweek in lighting is probably all that would matter.
So many CIS gals look drab without makeup. What makes you different? (see where I'm going here?)
Mila Kunis for example
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F21dpuo1.jpg&hash=b3ffdf7bd54a7e029141f2754968cb8b994de52e)
Yes. It is true.
Last year, some Chinese internet media revealed some interesting photos of Ms. Korea candidates, i.e., before and after makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fkorean.people.com.cn%2Fmediafile%2F201305%2F02%2FF201305021530577376700000.jpg&hash=1939b5009eeda3d2f2a3d115e27720b8b0886e11)
More photos: http://postfiles13.naver.net/20130626_220/2ch1999_1372235427924Pz6rW_JPEG/hu_1372235278_742643261.jpeg
Most entertainment celebrities look too much ordinary without deep makeup.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 12:55:34 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on April 27, 2014, 02:07:18 AM
Most likely you won't need it eventually, but at the moment, just to deal with beard shadow and to highlight other features that are still softening out, then yes maybe it wouldn't hurt. Personally I don't like that I need to put the stuff on either - I'm mid way through electro and still get some beard/mo shadow which I feel very self conscious about. The make-up smooths it away - once the electro is eventually over then I'm hoping I won't need to use it at all for most day-to-day stuff.
Make up can and should be fun. Costume? Maybe? I dunno. It doesn't have to be. I mean likewise I need to wear a wig, I'd rather not, but if I didn't I wouldn't pass at all, simple as that. But is it part of a costume? Sometimes I wonder if it is, but then there are plenty of women (cis and trans) who wear wigs for any number of reasons. Does that make it a costume piece, an accessory? I'd love not to wear it but feminine features or not I do not pass without it. So it is essential if I want to live my life as a woman. It was just a reality I needed to face if I wanted to transition.
Y'know, I know I keep harping on about my first tilt at transition (and I will shut up if you want me to), but I had a similar attitude - I wanted to not have to wear make up, I wanted to wear the cool andro/boy like clothes trendy girls my age were wearing but the minute I did I always got misgendered and then I'd get depressed about it. Rather than admitting I maybe needed to give some ground and not be so stubborn and maybe use a bit of foundation or not wear a particular cut of jeans or style of shoes I gave up instead.
Grace, you've bee nothing but helpful. I would never want you to shut up. It's always nice to hear from those with more experience than I have. I believe you have something to share and I'm glad you are doing that. :)
Quote from: NikkiRincon on April 27, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
All these pictures are before hrt. I'm in my 2nd weeks of HRT right now. Since I already look feminine naturally, I wonder if HRT will help me more with that or not. I also would like to get some hips and ass, hopefully that will come in later in my transition. Sigh! I have a lot of fat in my belly, that's all it goes to. Everywhere else I'm pretty normal to skinny.
Before shaved my hair off october of last year.
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This one with no hair, I shaved it all of last year because I wanted to start all over.
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Halloween of last year. :) It was fun. My first time actually dressing up for Halloween.
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Me in bed without my makeup.
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I had glue in extensions, but took them off after 2 days because it was bothering me and did not blend
with my short hair. I feel better with my natural hair because I can do anything with it and it doesn't
make me look too asian like the extensions does lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2F2014-04-16%252019.30.15.jpg&hash=3d3888275cd2c126297571d23f34afb44b8caa83)
I have to admit, I love my legs. It's like the one thing people notice about me too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147501045359763.jpeg&hash=ca4cfc490ef8510974c229146754b62fee83d104)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147449422370825.jpeg&hash=90d172270327a5ae00f6d963b28bb18390418eaf)
Ok gotta put the hands in there too. Thanks god I have small hands and feet. Even though I'm 5'8"
My brother on the other hand is younger than me, bigger hands, feet, and height.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1126.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fl605%2FKhmerbodianz%2FIMG_147441404675516.jpeg&hash=ebd6ced08fd062e19b1de926c933dd6cdb1d41e0) (http://s1126.photobucket.com/user/Khmerbodianz/media/IMG_147441404675516.jpeg.html)
Honestly, I don't see any issues with your photos and you haven't even started hrt. While this is just my opinion based on these photos and I can't say what things will be like, I'm not personally seeing any passing issues with what I see. Give hrt some time and you will likely be feeling much better.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 05:02:26 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 05:02:26 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 27, 2014, 12:49:43 PM
You really are well on your way. I think hormones will continue to do wonders if you just give a little time. In the meantime, makeup and continue voice training will likely help a lot.
I like your hair color, though I was wondering if you have ever thought about highlights? Maybe it's just me, but I think they look great and it sort of enhances how our face is seen.
Thanks :) I too continue to believe that things will change,for both of us :)
oh btw , I dont do voice training ,at all ,I hate it I feel really uncomfortable and I cant even maintain the voice , the only way I could get a female voice is via surgey which btw I would love to... and yeah make up helps a lot but I rarely do a full face make up , I usually just put mascara ,sometimes though I feel like doing a fabulous one XD
hhhhhhhmmm highlights eh?
thats actually a brilliant idea...
I ll see what I ll do :)
but im really bored of my current hair XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 05:12:35 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 27, 2014, 05:12:35 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on April 27, 2014, 05:02:26 PM
Thanks :) I too continue to believe that things will change,for both of us :)
oh btw , I dont do voice training ,at all ,I hate it I feel really uncomfortable and I cant even maintain the voice , the only way I could get a female voice is via surgey which btw I would love to... and yeah make up helps a lot but I rarely do a full face make up , I usually just put mascara ,sometimes though I feel like doing a fabulous one XD
hhhhhhhmmm highlights eh?
thats actually a brilliant idea...
I ll see what I ll do :)
but im really bored of my current hair XD
Voice takes time, but I think it's possible for all of us to train. I mean hey, I've got a terrible voice and lately I'm getting taken as a girl on the phone without trying.
You could always try one of the sites that let you see different hair styles on your face. I'm going to do that before I commit to a different style. In any event, have fun with it. There are so many styles that I'm sure you can find something unique for you. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kayg on April 28, 2014, 03:57:11 AM
Post by: kayg on April 28, 2014, 03:57:11 AM
Just wanna throw out something that is not said enough around here: hormones take *years* to work. For some of you there might be rapid and pronounced change in the first 6 to 12 months. For many of us, changes still happen long after that. I've been on hormones for a little more than 10 years, and I *still* see changes on a yearly basis. Maybe I'm imagining it, but probably not. For what it's worth, I like how I look now more than I did 6-8 years ago. And I'm 40. Arguably this is something trans folks have to look forward to. We might like how we look more as we get older!
Also, you all look great already!! Really. I'm not just saying this to be supportive or whatever.
I know there's a lot of baggage with being "passable," and I do support anyone who wants to look like they "pass." But, really, it's such a subjective thing anyway, and way more to do with interaction rather than a photo or video. "Passing" is a not a yes or no thing, even if you subscribe to the concept (which I don't really). "Pass" as what? Y'all look great when you like how you look, "passable" or not.
kay
Also, you all look great already!! Really. I'm not just saying this to be supportive or whatever.
I know there's a lot of baggage with being "passable," and I do support anyone who wants to look like they "pass." But, really, it's such a subjective thing anyway, and way more to do with interaction rather than a photo or video. "Passing" is a not a yes or no thing, even if you subscribe to the concept (which I don't really). "Pass" as what? Y'all look great when you like how you look, "passable" or not.
kay
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on April 28, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
Post by: Allyda on April 28, 2014, 11:56:48 AM
Quote from: kayg on April 28, 2014, 03:57:11 AMVery Very well said Kayg. I personally do not even care for the term "pass," It makes how we look sound too much like some kind of a test, which, as you so well point out, it's not. Nor is being gendered correctly some kind of contest or race. IMO, all you girls are beautiful women. I would much rather see "gendered correctly," or "correctly Identified," or "gender appropriate," etc., etc. (There's gotta be a better term we can come up with rather than "pass"), used as terms when asking these type of questions.
Just wanna throw out something that is not said enough around here: hormones take *years* to work. For some of you there might be rapid and pronounced change in the first 6 to 12 months. For many of us, changes still happen long after that. I've been on hormones for a little more than 10 years, and I *still* see changes on a yearly basis. Maybe I'm imagining it, but probably not. For what it's worth, I like how I look now more than I did 6-8 years ago. And I'm 40. Arguably this is something trans folks have to look forward to. We might like how we look more as we get older!
Also, you all look great already!! Really. I'm not just saying this to be supportive or whatever.
I know there's a lot of baggage with being "passable," and I do support anyone who wants to look like they "pass." But, really, it's such a subjective thing anyway, and way more to do with interaction rather than a photo or video. "Passing" is a not a yes or no thing, even if you subscribe to the concept (which I don't really). "Pass" as what? Y'all look great when you like how you look, "passable" or not.
kay
Ally
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 01:35:48 PM
It's the nature of people that you'll never get them to trade one syllable for five. If you want to get people to dump "pass" you'll need something shorter than "gendered correctly".
It's interesting. Look at any language and you can tell what's important to the native speakers just by what takes less time to say.
I have no idea what a shorter, less volatile word would be, but I wonder if we need one at all. I've been special, an outlier of one sort or another my entire life. Correcting my physical sex as much as possible to match my gender isn't gonna change that and I don't want it to.
It's interesting. Look at any language and you can tell what's important to the native speakers just by what takes less time to say.
I have no idea what a shorter, less volatile word would be, but I wonder if we need one at all. I've been special, an outlier of one sort or another my entire life. Correcting my physical sex as much as possible to match my gender isn't gonna change that and I don't want it to.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on April 28, 2014, 02:38:59 PM
Post by: katiej on April 28, 2014, 02:38:59 PM
Kay, thanks for sharing that. I'm in my late 30's, so I've learned to respect processes in life. But even I'm looking at transition as a 2-3 year process. It's good to know that 10+ years later, estrogen will still be working its magic. But at this point it's tough to think beyond the 2-3 years I've mapped out in my head.
Whatever your definition is of passing (correct gender identification), we can probably all agree on the definition of another single syllable word -- clocked. :-/
Whatever your definition is of passing (correct gender identification), we can probably all agree on the definition of another single syllable word -- clocked. :-/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
Post by: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
This seems like a neat site. Determines facial features and shows how much male/female:
https://www.skybiometry.com/
https://www.skybiometry.com/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on April 28, 2014, 07:00:47 PM
Post by: Allyda on April 28, 2014, 07:00:47 PM
Quote from: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 01:35:48 PMI see your point Dee very much so. Though it may not be possible, I'd love to use a word/term for these discussions that doesn't sound so much like we passed a test, etc. I've no doubt you understand what I'm getting at. I very much enjoy reading these threads and looking at before and after photo's. Everyone here inspires me as I undertake the same wonderful experience. I just hate that it sound so much like a contest, that's all.
It's the nature of people that you'll never get them to trade one syllable for five. If you want to get people to dump "pass" you'll need something shorter than "gendered correctly".
It's interesting. Look at any language and you can tell what's important to the native speakers just by what takes less time to say.
I have no idea what a shorter, less volatile word would be, but I wonder if we need one at all. I've been special, an outlier of one sort or another my entire life. Correcting my physical sex as much as possible to match my gender isn't gonna change that and I don't want it to.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 28, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 28, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
I have been working on my make up a little ....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhqcZ1On.png&hash=261c99b9eaa275d950ddb42dea7a6a7cc126e20f)
here is me trying to smile, but I think I failed badly at it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FofDEyO4.png&hash=35b88a169c097538155e01590f9e8257b50ecdae)
I never got any problems in girl mode, but i don't know if I pass or people are being nice to me. Like people really don't look at me, but at the same time I wish guys would give me attention, but they almost never seem to.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhqcZ1On.png&hash=261c99b9eaa275d950ddb42dea7a6a7cc126e20f)
here is me trying to smile, but I think I failed badly at it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FofDEyO4.png&hash=35b88a169c097538155e01590f9e8257b50ecdae)
I never got any problems in girl mode, but i don't know if I pass or people are being nice to me. Like people really don't look at me, but at the same time I wish guys would give me attention, but they almost never seem to.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 11:18:24 PM
Quote from: Allyda on April 28, 2014, 07:00:47 PM
I see your point Dee very much so. Though it may not be possible, I'd love to use a word/term for these discussions that doesn't sound so much like we passed a test, etc. I've no doubt you understand what I'm getting at. I very much enjoy reading these threads and looking at before and after photo's. Everyone here inspires me as I undertake the same wonderful experience. I just hate that it sound so much like a contest, that's all.
I absolutely agree. I just think we need a shorter word. How about "pinged"? When a tuning fork is near a sound close to it's own pitch it rings in sympathy. When we properly express our true gender other people do the same.
Dee
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Post by: Dee Marshall on April 28, 2014, 11:22:19 PM
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 28, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
I have been working on my make up a little ....
...picture redacted...
here is me trying to smile, but I think I failed badly at it.
...picture redacted...
I never got any problems in girl mode, but i don't know if I pass or people are being nice to me. Like people really don't look at me, but at the same time I wish guys would give me attention, but they almost never seem to.
In your pictures you look to me like a woman, a woman who has trouble smiling, but a woman. Next time you want a smiling picture imagine something that makes you happy, let the smile come on it's own and take the picture. Bet it comes out better. You're a pretty girl, after all!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 12:30:05 AM
Quote from: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
ETA: sky biometry sez %5 female, FWIW. seems like a neat site.
https://www.skybiometry.com/
Hey that site is pretty cool! I tried a few pictures of myself I had on my computer to test it out. One read 30% male, one read 30% female, and one read male... by 1%. >:( Lol, apparently even the machines think I look androgynous. ::)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on April 29, 2014, 01:32:53 AM
Post by: barbie on April 29, 2014, 01:32:53 AM
Quote from: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
Seems like a neat site.
https://www.skybiometry.com/
Another interesting site. My max. is 40% female.
Thanks for sharing.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 29, 2014, 03:44:37 AM
Post by: HoneyBunny on April 29, 2014, 03:44:37 AM
I think that site is broken because it gendered me as female with a high percentage it broke on the other stuff.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUgCsYA0.jpg&hash=1fb589ffcb90aa597dcefef778f5f14d49e2959d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUgCsYA0.jpg&hash=1fb589ffcb90aa597dcefef778f5f14d49e2959d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah84 on April 29, 2014, 08:29:21 AM
Post by: Sarah84 on April 29, 2014, 08:29:21 AM
Quote from: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
This seems like a neat site. Determines facial features and shows how much male/female:
https://www.skybiometry.com/
Nice app. It is also interesting to find similar photos using http://images.google.com :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 09:46:42 AM
Post by: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 09:46:42 AM
Here's another great site for face analysis: http://www.pictriev.com/ (http://www.pictriev.com/) which I actually like a little better because there isn't so much involved to use it -basically, you don't have to join anything.
I notice on either site if I run a photo of myself at about 1 and a half months hrt I get mixed results between male and female, however, when I run a photo taken two days ago I get only female results. And here's the thing, I hadn't noticed the change. Go figure, lol! :icon_flower:
I notice on either site if I run a photo of myself at about 1 and a half months hrt I get mixed results between male and female, however, when I run a photo taken two days ago I get only female results. And here's the thing, I hadn't noticed the change. Go figure, lol! :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 10:05:36 AM
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 10:05:36 AM
When I tried a recent picture of myself on that site, I got 70% feminine and 30% masculine... but all the lookalikes were teenage boys. >:( I think I'm done with face analysis sites for now. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 10:15:40 AM
Post by: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 10:15:40 AM
Quote from: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 10:05:36 AMYou do have a good point. While my lookalikes were a mixture of both women and some men about the best these sites can do for us is maybe if we use them once every 3 months or so during our transformations/hrt to show us the changes in our faces we haven't noticed.
When I tried a recent picture of myself on that site, I got 70% feminine and 30% masculine... but all the lookalikes were teenage boys. >:( I think I'm done with face analysis sites for now. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
Post by: Miyuki on April 29, 2014, 10:34:02 AM
Quote from: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 10:15:40 AM
You do have a good point. While my lookalikes were a mixture of both women and some men about the best these sites can do for us is maybe if we use them once every 3 months or so during our transformations/hrt to show us the changes in our faces we haven't noticed.
I guess... With my face the biggest problems I have are structural (chin and nose are too big), and HRT can only help so much with those kinds of things. I think I'm actually doing as well as could be expected, considering what I have to work with. My face will probably be stuck in androgynous zone until I can get a few things corrected, but there are worse things than being androgynous.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 29, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 29, 2014, 11:04:08 AM
Quote from: HoneyBunny on April 28, 2014, 07:02:21 PM
I have been working on my make up a little ....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhqcZ1On.png&hash=261c99b9eaa275d950ddb42dea7a6a7cc126e20f)
here is me trying to smile, but I think I failed badly at it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FofDEyO4.png&hash=35b88a169c097538155e01590f9e8257b50ecdae)
I never got any problems in girl mode, but i don't know if I pass or people are being nice to me. Like people really don't look at me, but at the same time I wish guys would give me attention, but they almost never seem to.
For what it's worth, I think you pass easily in those photos. Can't say I can speak outside of these pic, but I'm not seeing anything too problematic. And I know how you feel about smiling. I have no idea how to smile either. I feel so self conscious about myself as happiness is not something I was taught to express, lol. I don't get that emotion all that well. In any case, you look passable from what I can tell. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on April 29, 2014, 08:04:25 PM
Post by: Mickie on April 29, 2014, 08:04:25 PM
Well I haven't done much with trying makeup, or much of anything else besides growing my hair and shaving. But this is the latest :D
Have a pic of me at work!
If anything, I think I've andro'd out a tad
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fl7pej9Y.jpg&hash=7ed560f66c49dc666cbd04827d0518e1cb299275)
Have a pic of me at work!
If anything, I think I've andro'd out a tad
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fl7pej9Y.jpg&hash=7ed560f66c49dc666cbd04827d0518e1cb299275)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on April 29, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
Post by: antonia on April 29, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
I just had a great time feeding their engine my Virtual FFS (link below) photos and see it get confused, then when I gave it my profile photo in correctly gendered me as female so I guess I can't complain.
https://plus.google.com/u/4/photos/108646963702344126280/albums/6004936192758966833
https://plus.google.com/u/4/photos/108646963702344126280/albums/6004936192758966833
Quote from: ErinS on April 28, 2014, 05:45:47 PM
This seems like a neat site. Determines facial features and shows how much male/female:
https://www.skybiometry.com/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: MadeleineG on April 29, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Post by: MadeleineG on April 29, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Quote from: antonia on April 29, 2014, 09:50:05 PM
I just had a great time feeding their engine my Virtual FFS (link below) photos and see it get confused, then when I gave it my profile photo in correctly gendered me as female so I guess I can't complain.
https://plus.google.com/u/4/photos/108646963702344126280/albums/6004936192758966833
Thank you so much for sharing your vFFS photos. You're gonna be gorgeous, hon.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on April 29, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
Post by: antonia on April 29, 2014, 10:20:54 PM
Your welcome, I'm transitioning openly and I'm trying to help others as much as I can, the virtual FFS thing was kind of an accident, sent a question to a surgeon to enquire if they had a problem with me being a Type 1 diabetic but they didn't want to answer without a consult, ohh sales tactics. Figured I needed to know a little something before the consult so I read up and had my Virtual FFS done to get a 3rd party opinion. I'm not considering anything for the next year but it never hurts to know your options.
I also put the whole thing on my introduction thread with animated pictures and the write-up.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,161438.msg1408650.html#msg1408650
Thanks for the compliment, I much prefer photos with makeup like my profile photo but for accurate results nothing beats brutal truth.
I also put the whole thing on my introduction thread with animated pictures and the write-up.
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,161438.msg1408650.html#msg1408650
Quote from: Maia Lynne (Gwynne) on April 29, 2014, 09:59:08 PM
Thank you so much for sharing your vFFS photos. You're gonna be gorgeous, hon.
Thanks for the compliment, I much prefer photos with makeup like my profile photo but for accurate results nothing beats brutal truth.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 29, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
Post by: Chic on April 29, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
So like my avatar is new
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on April 30, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
Post by: Mickie on April 30, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
Quote from: Chic on April 29, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
So like my avatar is new
Love it!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
Post by: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
OMG! A new fashion trend that will let me pass every time I go out :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Ffunny%2520icons%2F608bdda905cd17ec4686f2d3705e3199_zpsb7f6849b.jpg&hash=6948156b22e047dab2be03382469e152f1f745af)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Ffunny%2520icons%2F608bdda905cd17ec4686f2d3705e3199_zpsb7f6849b.jpg&hash=6948156b22e047dab2be03382469e152f1f745af)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on April 30, 2014, 02:05:49 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on April 30, 2014, 02:05:49 PM
Quote from: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
OMG! A new fashion trend that will let me pass every time I go out :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Ffunny%2520icons%2F608bdda905cd17ec4686f2d3705e3199_zpsb7f6849b.jpg&hash=6948156b22e047dab2be03382469e152f1f745af)
Lol. Yeah, if only masks were part of everyday attire. Then again, I'd probably lose faith in humanity if that happened. ;)
Quote from: Mickie on April 29, 2014, 08:04:25 PM
Well I haven't done much with trying makeup, or much of anything else besides growing my hair and shaving. But this is the latest :D
Have a pic of me at work!
If anything, I think I've andro'd out a tad
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fl7pej9Y.jpg&hash=7ed560f66c49dc666cbd04827d0518e1cb299275)
Growing out your hair is one of the best things you can do early on. How you style your hair makes a huge deal. With some brow work, laser, and hrt, I think you have potential to look more female.
Quote from: Chic on April 29, 2014, 11:33:26 PM
So like my avatar is new
You're progressing well Chic. Are you on hrt yet?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on April 30, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Post by: Chic on April 30, 2014, 02:43:20 PM
Quote from: Mickie on April 30, 2014, 01:09:04 AM
Love it!!!
Thanks a bunch! (:
Quote from: learningtolive on April 30, 2014, 02:05:49 PMYou're progressing well Chic. Are you on hrt yet?
Unfortunately, no :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on April 30, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Post by: sad panda on April 30, 2014, 03:55:44 PM
Quote from: learningtolive on April 30, 2014, 02:05:49 PM
Lol. Yeah, if only masks were part of everyday attire. Then again, I'd probably lose faith in humanity if that happened. ;)
It has always been normal for girls to wear a mask ;o
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: DiDi on April 30, 2014, 04:31:50 PM
Post by: DiDi on April 30, 2014, 04:31:50 PM
I was thinking a burka would work for me. LOL
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on April 30, 2014, 06:22:01 PM
Post by: RobinGee on April 30, 2014, 06:22:01 PM
I'm close to posting a new picture here. No huge changes but little better hair
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on April 30, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
Post by: @Diana on April 30, 2014, 06:32:56 PM
Quote from: Michelle G on April 30, 2014, 10:50:39 AM
OMG! A new fashion trend that will let me pass every time I go out :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg4%2FKR3259%2Ffunny%2520icons%2F608bdda905cd17ec4686f2d3705e3199_zpsb7f6849b.jpg&hash=6948156b22e047dab2be03382469e152f1f745af)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg3.wikia.nocookie.net%2F__cb20130806122705%2Fglee%2Fimages%2F6%2F6f%2F28468-Taylor-swift-lol-gif-OMBg.gif&hash=75bebb41543d58de41c6449545e615c7e264be4b)
btw,good job girls, keep'em coming ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Blue Rabbit on April 30, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
Post by: Blue Rabbit on April 30, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
Quote from: Jennifer.L on April 26, 2014, 03:47:40 AM
@learningtolive, You Totally look like Arya Stark
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7091/14008398305_ed7cd8bcc6_z.jpg)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ffc06.deviantart.net%2Ffs70%2Fi%2F2012%2F019%2F1%2Fa%2Farya_stark_by_ohsono-d4luvj3.png&hash=b3e5234a196a089e185f9338005e65b51170d4f3)
(https://farm8.staticflickr.com/7401/13985270426_d94e11c82e_z.jpg)
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS7SxWQtGO3NtdoCnNjwBC3cCiMdYUDXZyda1BmhJUlAtcWzP7n)
(https://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQjmPX3kGboBhfks2G7aIguc63CEwZEiP4gZQpy2lupsRtWsd32WQ)
OH MY GAWD! OH MY GAWD! OH MY GAWD!
OH MY GOD!
If this was a competition she wins hands down, Long live Learningtolive aka Ayra Stark
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Post by: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Hello, my name is Paula Miller!
I am from Orem, UT. I am 19 years old and currently pre-everything. I have been full time for almost 2 years now, and it's been amazing! I am hoping to get on HRT soon! You girls are all beautiful and I am so blessed to have found this forum! <3 Love y'all. I'm always looking for new friends, so feel free to add me on FB too! facebook.com/paulyrmiller
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2whqq6h.jpg&hash=4fe429e32437cec63bfdb5549912fba43512f341)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fw5piu.jpg&hash=ac54bd962c15422a70c7d8394360cd7f73061ad9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fr9mzdd.jpg&hash=440c7ef5af0a331bcfac2f7043dcc007e9bfd67d)
I am from Orem, UT. I am 19 years old and currently pre-everything. I have been full time for almost 2 years now, and it's been amazing! I am hoping to get on HRT soon! You girls are all beautiful and I am so blessed to have found this forum! <3 Love y'all. I'm always looking for new friends, so feel free to add me on FB too! facebook.com/paulyrmiller
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on May 02, 2014, 01:56:32 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on May 02, 2014, 01:56:32 PM
Quote from: Blue Rabbit on April 30, 2014, 07:08:43 PM
OH MY GAWD! OH MY GAWD! OH MY GAWD!
OH MY GOD!
If this was a competition she wins hands down, Long live Learningtolive aka Ayra Stark
I don't know if I'll live long, lol, but thanks for the compliments.
Quote from: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Hello, my name is Paula Miller!
I am from Orem, UT. I am 19 years old and currently pre-everything. I have been full time for almost 2 years now, and it's been amazing! I am hoping to get on HRT soon! You girls are all beautiful and I am so blessed to have found this forum! <3 Love y'all. I'm always looking for new friends, so feel free to add me on FB too! facebook.com/paulyrmiller
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Full time for two years without hrt!? Wow, that's awesome! In any case, if you have no trouble passing nowadays, I'm sure hrt will do wonders for you.
Welcome to the forums. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paula on May 02, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
Post by: Paula on May 02, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
QuoteFull time for two years without hrt!? Wow, that's awesome! In any case, if you have no trouble passing nowadays, I'm sure hrt will do wonders for you.
Welcome to the forums. :)
@Learningtolive: Thank you so much! Yeah, I haven't gotten on HRT yet because of my finical situation, but now I'm back on track and I am so stoked! I appreciate it a lot!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JadeFla on May 02, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Post by: JadeFla on May 02, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Just based on my avatar, what do you all think?
I'm 31, pre-everything.
I'm 31, pre-everything.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on May 02, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on May 02, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Quote from: Paula on May 02, 2014, 02:18:44 PM
@Learningtolive: Thank you so much! Yeah, I haven't gotten on HRT yet because of my finical situation, but now I'm back on track and I am so stoked! I appreciate it a lot!
That's great. If you've been passing all this time for two years, then I've got to imagine hrt will help you with that even more.
Quote from: JadeFla on May 02, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Just based on my avatar, what do you all think?
I'm 31, pre-everything.
Honestly, it's hard to tell given how dark the image is.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 02, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 02, 2014, 08:22:07 PM
Quote from: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Hello, my name is Paula Miller!
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I can tell you are pretty good at make-up .. you are gorgeous ! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 02, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 02, 2014, 08:23:41 PM
Quote from: JadeFla on May 02, 2014, 03:25:59 PM
Just based on my avatar, what do you all think?
I'm 31, pre-everything.
Quote from: learningtolive on May 02, 2014, 04:02:04 PM
Honestly, it's hard to tell given how dark the image is.
agreed with learning .. a bit dark ..
its never too late to start HRT .. btw, I am 35 :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Blue Rabbit on May 02, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
Post by: Blue Rabbit on May 02, 2014, 08:44:54 PM
Quote from: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PM
Hello, my name is Paula Miller!
I am from Orem, UT. I am 19 years old and currently pre-everything. I have been full time for almost 2 years now, and it's been amazing! I am hoping to get on HRT soon! You girls are all beautiful and I am so blessed to have found this forum! <3 Love y'all. I'm always looking for new friends, so feel free to add me on FB too! facebook.com/paulyrmiller
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What the hell?! Seriously no HRT or nothing? Give us some tips how did you get to living full time pre everything? Thats amazing you look amazing!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 02, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Post by: llerret on May 02, 2014, 10:46:31 PM
Not completely passable yet but I feel like I'm almost there
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/46234971e4cc184279880384c2531a5c/tumblr_n4mfqejF4s1qkrzsco1_1280.jpg)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on May 03, 2014, 02:13:31 AM
Post by: Alaia on May 03, 2014, 02:13:31 AM
Quote from: Paula on May 02, 2014, 01:41:43 PMWow Paula, you look great! Especially for not being on HRT, that's just insane!
Hello, my name is Paula Miller!
I am from Orem, UT. I am 19 years old and currently pre-everything. I have been full time for almost 2 years now, and it's been amazing! I am hoping to get on HRT soon! You girls are all beautiful and I am so blessed to have found this forum! <3 Love y'all. I'm always looking for new friends, so feel free to add me on FB too! facebook.com/paulyrmiller
And it's awesome to see another person here from my neck of the woods. I grew up in Provo, but am living in Eagle Mountain now. It's quite the different world here in 'happy valley'...
Quote from: llerret on May 02, 2014, 10:46:31 PMOh Llerret... *walks up and offers a side hug whilst turning you around*
Not completely passable yet but I feel like I'm almost there
(https://24.media.tumblr.com/46234971e4cc184279880384c2531a5c/tumblr_n4mfqejF4s1qkrzsco1_1280.jpg)
You see that tiny speck off in the distance behind you? THAT was 'almost there' and you've left it in the dust babe ;)
Now if you'll excuse me I need to update my list of girls I
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 05:39:17 AM
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 05:39:17 AM
Just a quick genuine question here - I would love to post pics on susans about this kind of stuff, but does no-one worry that they could be seen online by anyone, work, friends who don't know...etc stuff like that? That's the only thing that stops me from doing it :/
Oh and llerret, you kinda look like halle berry
Oh and llerret, you kinda look like halle berry
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 03, 2014, 06:21:12 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 03, 2014, 06:21:12 AM
People should always be careful when posting images of themselves anywhere on the internet. This site has many genuine people who visit, but there are no doubt those who are here with ulterior motives. There is always a chance someone you would rather not see your photos might see them here (or copied and distributed elsewhere). People should try to ensure that they don't give away identifying information and location with their pics. Many of us look quite different when presenting in our identified gender so to some degree being identified is slightly less of a risk. Regardless, if anyone has doubts about who may ultimately see any pics they post here then they should take extra measures to protect their identity or not post at all. Hope that helps.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on May 03, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Post by: Ltl89 on May 03, 2014, 10:13:56 AM
Quote from: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 05:39:17 AM
Just a quick genuine question here - I would love to post pics on susans about this kind of stuff, but does no-one worry that they could be seen online by anyone, work, friends who don't know...etc stuff like that? That's the only thing that stops me from doing it :/
Oh and llerret, you kinda look like halle berry
That's why it took me forever to expose my face. Truthfully, I'm really worried that it will bite me in the ass. However, I think it really helped me get over my fear about others knowing. I'm trans. Nothing I can do will change that. And people are going to know and find out. I'll never be able to be totally stealth. Even though I want to live my life as female and keep my trans past hidden in the future, complete stealth isn't possible. Besides, everyone seems to know by the sheer fact of me walking out the door. Look wise, I'm no longer to hide this when out as male/andro. Suppose that's a good thing. In any case, that's my perspective on it. Do what;s best for you.
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 03, 2014, 06:21:12 AM
People should always be careful when posting images of themselves anywhere on the internet. This site has many genuine people who visit, but there are no doubt those who are here with ulterior motives. There is always a chance someone you would rather not see your photos might see them here (or copied and distributed elsewhere). People should try to ensure that they don't give away identifying information and location with their pics. Many of us look quite different when presenting in our identified gender so to some degree being identified is slightly less of a risk. Regardless, if anyone has doubts about who may ultimately see any pics they post here then they should take extra measures to protect their identity or not post at all. Hope that helps.
You're right about all that. Make sure the geotag info is removed.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
What's geotag info and how do I remove it..?
And yeah fair enough I guess. I am fortunate enough to be able to be stealth. I mean my friends from before (and some from start of uni) do, but anyone else I meet from now on doesn't know. Guess I won't be able to post stuff like that :S
And yeah fair enough I guess. I am fortunate enough to be able to be stealth. I mean my friends from before (and some from start of uni) do, but anyone else I meet from now on doesn't know. Guess I won't be able to post stuff like that :S
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ltl89 on May 03, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
Post by: Ltl89 on May 03, 2014, 02:52:19 PM
Quote from: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 10:48:40 AM
What's geotag info and how do I remove it..?
And yeah fair enough I guess. I am fortunate enough to be able to be stealth. I mean my friends from before (and some from start of uni) do, but anyone else I meet from now on doesn't know. Guess I won't be able to post stuff like that :S
Just be careful. Really there is no need to post if you are really concerned. It's smart to think about your privacy and safety.
Geotag info is the gps Info that is attached to your pictures. Many smart phones have this ability and you want to make sure its turned off if you share. Otherwise, people will know where the photo was taken, unless you strip that out with software or the uploading service.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
Post by: eggy_nog on May 03, 2014, 03:49:43 PM
Thanks very much! Had no idea about this :S
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 04:16:29 PM
Quote from: kate on May 03, 2014, 05:27:24 AM
Your very cute :)
Thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 04:17:24 PM
Quote from: Alaia on May 03, 2014, 02:13:31 AM
Wow Paula, you look great! Especially for not being on HRT, that's just insane!
And it's awesome to see another person here from my neck of the woods. I grew up in Provo, but am living in Eagle Mountain now. It's quite the different world here in 'happy valley'...
Oh Llerret... *walks up and offers a side hug whilst turning you around*
You see that tiny speck off in the distance behind you? THAT was 'almost there' and you've left it in the dust babe ;)
Now if you'll excuse me I need to update my list of girls Ijealously hate... err.. I mean adore and respect. :D ;D
haha thank you so much. But seriously I don't pass in public yet.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paula on May 03, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
Post by: Paula on May 03, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
@DianaVV: Thank you so much! Yes - I do love makeup, and I have done makeup on myself and on others for quite a while now, but I tend not to wear too much makeup on a daily basis. :)
@Blue Rabbit: Honestly, it was all about my confidence! I have been very blessed with my ethnic background, and my voice. Since I have sang for most of my childhood in professional choirs - I haven't had any issues with my voice either. It's extremely high, and I am so grateful for that! Also, being a plus size woman has helped me with my curves and such. I appreciate your comments, and I hope you know it means a lot to me. <3 Thanks for being a sweetheart!
@Alaia: Oh my gosh, no way! That's freaking crazy! Haha - you don't know how happy this makes me. :) I am glad someone understands how 'happy valley' and Mormonville (no dis-respect to those who are mormon) is! I love Eagle Mountain! I have a friend who lives over there, and it's always nice to go there when I need to get away from Happy Valley. You should PM me and we should plan to get a cup of coffee or tea sometime!
@Blue Rabbit: Honestly, it was all about my confidence! I have been very blessed with my ethnic background, and my voice. Since I have sang for most of my childhood in professional choirs - I haven't had any issues with my voice either. It's extremely high, and I am so grateful for that! Also, being a plus size woman has helped me with my curves and such. I appreciate your comments, and I hope you know it means a lot to me. <3 Thanks for being a sweetheart!
@Alaia: Oh my gosh, no way! That's freaking crazy! Haha - you don't know how happy this makes me. :) I am glad someone understands how 'happy valley' and Mormonville (no dis-respect to those who are mormon) is! I love Eagle Mountain! I have a friend who lives over there, and it's always nice to go there when I need to get away from Happy Valley. You should PM me and we should plan to get a cup of coffee or tea sometime!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on May 03, 2014, 06:53:08 PM
Post by: RobinGee on May 03, 2014, 06:53:08 PM
Here is a current pic I've dropped about 20 lbs and my hair is growing.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
Quote from: kate on May 03, 2014, 05:45:42 PM
Are you FT? I can't see how people wouldn't see you as a young woman
What's FT?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hayley on May 03, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
Post by: Hayley on May 03, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
Quote from: llerret on May 03, 2014, 07:56:56 PM
What's FT?
I believe she means "full time". Oh and you look lovely in your avatar pic. That dress super cute.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
Post by: llerret on May 03, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
Quote from: Hayley on May 03, 2014, 08:34:31 PM
I believe she means "full time". Oh and you look lovely in your avatar pic. That dress super cute.
Oh well in that case, I've always been full time pretty much. I just transitioned smoothly in my life over time. And thank you very much!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 04, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
Post by: @Diana on May 04, 2014, 02:40:28 AM
Quote from: llerret on May 03, 2014, 09:04:07 PM
Oh well in that case, I've always been full time pretty much. I just transitioned smoothly in my life over time. And thank you very much!
you look like Rihanna .. ella ella ei ei :) .. pretty girl !
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FU_0E-k8EDI/U2XemTtQSGI/AAAAAAAAAdU/hvsToHmbtB0/w646-h861-no/20140504_020335.jpg)
Me wearing traditional Nordic clothing.
Me wearing traditional Nordic clothing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: IamNotxChristine on May 04, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
Post by: IamNotxChristine on May 04, 2014, 03:32:49 AM
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Could I pass as a middle aged cougar?
Could I pass as a middle aged cougar?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on May 04, 2014, 05:52:05 AM
Post by: eggy_nog on May 04, 2014, 05:52:05 AM
Quote from: antonia on May 04, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FU_0E-k8EDI/U2XemTtQSGI/AAAAAAAAAdU/hvsToHmbtB0/w646-h861-no/20140504_020335.jpg)
Me wearing traditional Nordic clothing.
I really like that jumper ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: zerglingrunby on May 04, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
Post by: zerglingrunby on May 04, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
Quote from: antonia on May 04, 2014, 02:45:51 AM
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-FU_0E-k8EDI/U2XemTtQSGI/AAAAAAAAAdU/hvsToHmbtB0/w646-h861-no/20140504_020335.jpg)
Me wearing traditional Nordic clothing.
You could be a character from Game of Thrones or maybe Skyrim. Whenever I watch one I want to play the other and vice-versa..
Here's me, pre-everything. Waiting for HRT to start in a month perhaps!
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10273588_10154027836720405_8558033699854043494_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 04, 2014, 07:14:24 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 04, 2014, 07:14:24 AM
Quote from: RobinGee on May 03, 2014, 06:53:08 PM
Here is a current pic I've dropped about 20 lbs and my hair is growing.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUeOpaOMl.jpg&hash=6ad624be19a3a0002fad2b60f947d4ade6de77a1)
20 lbs? NOT BAD! Losing weight is soooooo hard. Keep up the good work! Also, your hair is looking nice! When it grows I think its going to look awesome.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 04, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 04, 2014, 06:26:18 PM
Quote from: IamNotxChristine on May 04, 2014, 03:32:49 AMyes
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Could I pass as a middle aged cougar?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 07:41:51 PM
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 07:41:51 PM
I love it, it's handmade by my mom, it's probably my favorite piece of clothing :)
Quote from: eggy_nog on May 04, 2014, 05:52:05 AM
I really like that jumper ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
Post by: antonia on May 04, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
I used to play a lot of Lord of the rings online but now I don't really play any games, coincidentally I'm born and raised in Iceland where all of the Game of Thrones north of the wall is being shot. Might not be a coincidence that the sweater reminds you of Game of Thrones :)
You look really good, looks like you got a nice head of hair and are well on your way to grow it out, I'm 100% that you can pass any day with minimal makeup/effort.
Hugs
You look really good, looks like you got a nice head of hair and are well on your way to grow it out, I'm 100% that you can pass any day with minimal makeup/effort.
Hugs
Quote from: zerglingrunby on May 04, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
You could be a character from Game of Thrones or maybe Skyrim. Whenever I watch one I want to play the other and vice-versa..
Here's me, pre-everything. Waiting for HRT to start in a month perhaps!
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10273588_10154027836720405_8558033699854043494_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: WaspWoman on May 04, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Post by: WaspWoman on May 04, 2014, 09:19:15 PM
Quote from: zerglingrunby on May 04, 2014, 05:58:08 AM
You could be a character from Game of Thrones or maybe Skyrim. Whenever I watch one I want to play the other and vice-versa..
Here's me, pre-everything. Waiting for HRT to start in a month perhaps!
(https://scontent-a-sea.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/10273588_10154027836720405_8558033699854043494_n.jpg)
Ha, I just created a new Lagertha inspired Nord Shieldmaiden after watching Vikings. ;D
Very cute already btw. I think you will do great!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on May 05, 2014, 12:22:34 AM
Post by: Jasriella on May 05, 2014, 12:22:34 AM
Deep breath now...... first time trying makeup and well here goes.
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps3f6f1c52.jpg&hash=b8029ed9619bda9388edc736b84fa883f5c94c52) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps3f6f1c52.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: eggy_nog on May 05, 2014, 05:44:09 AM
Post by: eggy_nog on May 05, 2014, 05:44:09 AM
Quote from: antonia on May 04, 2014, 07:46:23 PM
I used to play a lot of Lord of the rings online but now I don't really play any games, coincidentally I'm born and raised in Iceland where all of the Game of Thrones north of the wall is being shot. Might not be a coincidence that the sweater reminds you of Game of Thrones :)
I LOVE game of thrones! Actually I was wondering where they were shooting the north of the wall scenes.. Lovely scenery
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 05, 2014, 10:41:07 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 05, 2014, 10:41:07 PM
How bad am I?
I know the lightning isn't very good...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fqudzjtged%2FInstant_neo_1_06_05_2014_00_24_Copia.jpg&hash=481e97ca71d3166d1b960d26bb451f7b539d8ea4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fz8y7ln6th%2FInstant_neo_2_05_05_2014_21_23.png&hash=c3989ad1c275f57fb7adff47999bd34b4fdb9449)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fdl99b76f9%2FInstant_neo_2_02_05_2014_20_56.png&hash=18378960c910d68f5f3cc833c475cd5659f48bbd)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fg54w5atz9%2FInstant_neo_3_02_05_2014_21_14.png&hash=ec949823e34244f24104c7069ee7406f0b3f8d3b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fus199837p%2FSem_t_tulo.jpg&hash=0043f996957a8de7c0a965c5216da8c46e7a8efd)
I know the lightning isn't very good...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fqudzjtged%2FInstant_neo_1_06_05_2014_00_24_Copia.jpg&hash=481e97ca71d3166d1b960d26bb451f7b539d8ea4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fz8y7ln6th%2FInstant_neo_2_05_05_2014_21_23.png&hash=c3989ad1c275f57fb7adff47999bd34b4fdb9449)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fdl99b76f9%2FInstant_neo_2_02_05_2014_20_56.png&hash=18378960c910d68f5f3cc833c475cd5659f48bbd)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fg54w5atz9%2FInstant_neo_3_02_05_2014_21_14.png&hash=ec949823e34244f24104c7069ee7406f0b3f8d3b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fus199837p%2FSem_t_tulo.jpg&hash=0043f996957a8de7c0a965c5216da8c46e7a8efd)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 05, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 05, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 05, 2014, 10:41:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fus199837p%2FSem_t_tulo.jpg&hash=0043f996957a8de7c0a965c5216da8c46e7a8efd)
imo not bad at all , but i think this hairstyle will suit your face more ..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_8RitgntnZUk%2FTFzMKghLc7I%2FAAAAAAAAAMQ%2FAyHmLbkgZJE%2Fs1600%2Fzooey-deschanel-shoulder-length-brunette-wavy-hairstyle-with-bangs.jpg&hash=209876e786d21f2d26f321a8196889377331ae4d)
:)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on May 05, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
Post by: V M on May 05, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
Not sure what you mean by bad, like "I'm one badass woman" kinda deal? Micheal Jackson's song 'BAD'? You def. can't be talking about your looks because I think you're look rather good
Confidence is the key woman
Hugs
Confidence is the key woman
Hugs
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 06, 2014, 12:03:24 AM
Post by: @Diana on May 06, 2014, 12:03:24 AM
Quote from: V M on May 05, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
Not sure what you mean by bad, like "I'm one badass woman" kinda deal? Micheal Jackson's song 'BAD'? You def. can't be talking about your looks because I think you're look rather good
haha you made me giggled in good way ;D
and agreed , she looks rather good :laugh:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 06, 2014, 03:44:38 AM
Post by: barbie on May 06, 2014, 03:44:38 AM
Quote from: Jasriella on May 05, 2014, 12:22:34 AM
Deep breath now...... first time trying makeup and well here goes.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps3f6f1c52.jpg&hash=b8029ed9619bda9388edc736b84fa883f5c94c52) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps3f6f1c52.jpg.html)
I can not see any makeup. You have a rounded face, imparting some advantage in transitioning.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 06, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
Post by: Natalia on May 06, 2014, 07:08:30 AM
Quote from: V M on May 05, 2014, 11:12:12 PM
Not sure what you mean by bad, like "I'm one badass woman" kinda deal? Micheal Jackson's song 'BAD'? You def. can't be talking about your looks because I think you're look rather good
Confidence is the key woman
Hugs
Who's bad? ^^
Thank you! Perhaps I'm still lacking some self confidence...but I hope this will change when I start going out more as myself.
I'm pretty happy with my transition until now =)
Quote from: @Diana on May 05, 2014, 10:44:52 PM
imo not bad at all , but i think this hairstyle will suit your face more ..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F4.bp.blogspot.com%2F_8RitgntnZUk%2FTFzMKghLc7I%2FAAAAAAAAAMQ%2FAyHmLbkgZJE%2Fs1600%2Fzooey-deschanel-shoulder-length-brunette-wavy-hairstyle-with-bangs.jpg&hash=209876e786d21f2d26f321a8196889377331ae4d)
:)
That's a nice hairstyle!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on May 06, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Post by: Jasriella on May 06, 2014, 08:58:59 AM
Quote from: barbie on May 06, 2014, 03:44:38 AMThat's the whole point, subtle differences trying to make a more naturally feminine look and hide my stubble. My nose though is huge.......
I can not see any makeup. You have a rounded face, imparting some advantage in transitioning.
barbie~~
Maybe tonight I'll try a little more visible makeup style.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Joan on May 06, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Post by: Joan on May 06, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Hi everyone :)
I'm just coming up to 4 months on HRT AND I'm getting to the stage where I can god out with some confidence and people don't really look at me so much anymore. I can't tell whether I pass that well, but I guess at least I'm not causing anyone too much distress by my appearance ( :D ) and my voice seems to be holding up quite well in shops, restaurants and cafés.
This is a selfie I took on Sunday at a cafe. How much am I fooling myself that I pass some? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0LJ6Y6q.jpg&hash=28e20a76c689263ed6c309030ce93f3d35c1b736)
I'm just coming up to 4 months on HRT AND I'm getting to the stage where I can god out with some confidence and people don't really look at me so much anymore. I can't tell whether I pass that well, but I guess at least I'm not causing anyone too much distress by my appearance ( :D ) and my voice seems to be holding up quite well in shops, restaurants and cafés.
This is a selfie I took on Sunday at a cafe. How much am I fooling myself that I pass some? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0LJ6Y6q.jpg&hash=28e20a76c689263ed6c309030ce93f3d35c1b736)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 06, 2014, 09:27:25 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 06, 2014, 09:27:25 PM
Quote from: Joan on May 06, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Hi everyone :)
I'm just coming up to 4 months on HRT AND I'm getting to the stage where I can god out with some confidence and people don't really look at me so much anymore. I can't tell whether I pass that well, but I guess at least I'm not causing anyone too much distress by my appearance ( :D ) and my voice seems to be holding up quite well in shops, restaurants and cafés.
This is a selfie I took on Sunday at a cafe. How much am I fooling myself that I pass some? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0LJ6Y6q.jpg&hash=28e20a76c689263ed6c309030ce93f3d35c1b736)
great job for just 4 months on HRT, you look GREAT ! love the hair, suit your face very well ! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 06, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 06, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
Quote from: Joan on May 06, 2014, 09:24:32 PMyour doing quite well . I just started month 7
Hi everyone :)
I'm just coming up to 4 months on HRT AND I'm getting to the stage where I can god out with some confidence and people don't really look at me so much anymore. I can't tell whether I pass that well, but I guess at least I'm not causing anyone too much distress by my appearance ( :D ) and my voice seems to be holding up quite well in shops, restaurants and cafés.
This is a selfie I took on Sunday at a cafe. How much am I fooling myself that I pass some? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0LJ6Y6q.jpg&hash=28e20a76c689263ed6c309030ce93f3d35c1b736)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on May 06, 2014, 11:04:14 PM
Post by: Chic on May 06, 2014, 11:04:14 PM
Pre-everythiiiiing stiiiiiillll
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Color version:
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQpsfqIg.jpg&hash=bfe1f83a89831e37f2a38f5a695270f3800d1be4)
Color version:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNLglv0R.jpg&hash=fc432bf6a4857f23ed564a0ab1ea6588c8f4ef47)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 07, 2014, 01:55:53 AM
Post by: barbie on May 07, 2014, 01:55:53 AM
Quote from: Joan on May 06, 2014, 09:24:32 PM
Hi everyone :)
I'm just coming up to 4 months on HRT AND I'm getting to the stage where I can god out with some confidence and people don't really look at me so much anymore. I can't tell whether I pass that well, but I guess at least I'm not causing anyone too much distress by my appearance ( :D ) and my voice seems to be holding up quite well in shops, restaurants and cafés.
This is a selfie I took on Sunday at a cafe. How much am I fooling myself that I pass some? :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0LJ6Y6q.jpg&hash=28e20a76c689263ed6c309030ce93f3d35c1b736)
Joan, you pass nicely. Don't worry!
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Joan on May 07, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
Post by: Joan on May 07, 2014, 10:28:20 AM
Quote from: @Diana on May 06, 2014, 09:27:25 PMThanks Diana. I like how my hair (my wig actually, but it feels so natural) looks when I push it back off my face.
great job for just 4 months on HRT, you look GREAT ! love the hair, suit your face very well ! :)
Quote from: stephaniec on May 06, 2014, 09:41:08 PM
your doing quite well . I just started month 7
Thanks Stephanie. I wonder what 7 months will be like. Did you get a big change at 6 like others have talked about?
Quote from: barbie on May 07, 2014, 01:55:53 AM
Joan, you pass nicely. Don't worry!
barbie~~
Thanks Barbie. The worry is very very slowly diminishing :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 07, 2014, 10:52:37 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 07, 2014, 10:52:37 AM
Quote from: Joan on May 07, 2014, 10:28:20 AMit's been pretty evenly gradual
Thanks Diana. I like how my hair (my wig actually, but it feels so natural) looks when I push it back off my face.
Thanks Stephanie. I wonder what 7 months will be like. Did you get a big change at 6 like others have talked about?
Thanks Barbie. The worry is very very slowly diminishing :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on May 07, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Post by: Chic on May 07, 2014, 03:44:34 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on May 07, 2014, 10:52:37 AM
it's been pretty evenly gradual
You look wonderful in your avatar! (: Total male-fail in every way.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 07, 2014, 04:36:56 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 07, 2014, 04:36:56 PM
Quote from: Chic on May 07, 2014, 03:44:34 PMthank you so much I really appreciate it.
You look wonderful in your avatar! (: Total male-fail in every way.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
Am i getting closer?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-05%2F1DB543A7-E533-47FE-AC14-308B98ADAE4B.jpg&hash=4fa9201de4bb843df41ed8878e830485319c9c02)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-05%2F1DB543A7-E533-47FE-AC14-308B98ADAE4B.jpg&hash=4fa9201de4bb843df41ed8878e830485319c9c02)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 07, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 07, 2014, 06:54:17 PM
Quote from: Emo on May 07, 2014, 06:44:18 PM
Am i getting closer?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-05%2F1DB543A7-E533-47FE-AC14-308B98ADAE4B.jpg&hash=4fa9201de4bb843df41ed8878e830485319c9c02)
def. the hair looks just like your avi ! ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
Lol. I have a hat on.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 07, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 07, 2014, 08:12:19 PM
Emo thats some insane breast growth !
:D
:D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Post by: Emo on May 07, 2014, 09:06:25 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 07, 2014, 08:12:19 PM:3
Emo thats some insane breast growth !
:D
Hoping to hit D in a few months. Lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on May 10, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
Post by: AshleeLC on May 10, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
Been a while since I came on here, almost a month or so? Aw well, 4 months on HRT :D
Breasts have started to actually be recognizable as breasts, and they poke out enough Ive been told by freinds in class to start wearing sports bras, so I have. The pics are pretty recent, so here they are.
First one shows breast development a bit better, and is from 40 minutes ago, sorry i was in a rush to get home from a buddies house, my face is all goofy.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnT3Jokm.jpg&hash=1ce298c5b6e5e63f8199aabbb1882175a8bf72cf)
Heres a face pic from 3 days ago or so at work, was outside on break.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBAqLZh8.jpg&hash=b8fb4c1f8346def769720917efdf8ff672e46e2f)
And heres a body pic with my face actually looking kinda feminine. Week or two old.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJk7Inhu.jpg&hash=5c6e39f92cd1286aeaa9047f63ea10d6f564018b)
I got called a Lesbian the other day, which kinda boosted my spirits a bit as earlier I had been called sir several times by the staff at McDonalds which kinda ticked me off. So Im unsure of where I lie right now? Passing at all I doubt, Im guessing im looking more like a femme gay guy : P
Breasts have started to actually be recognizable as breasts, and they poke out enough Ive been told by freinds in class to start wearing sports bras, so I have. The pics are pretty recent, so here they are.
First one shows breast development a bit better, and is from 40 minutes ago, sorry i was in a rush to get home from a buddies house, my face is all goofy.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FnT3Jokm.jpg&hash=1ce298c5b6e5e63f8199aabbb1882175a8bf72cf)
Heres a face pic from 3 days ago or so at work, was outside on break.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBAqLZh8.jpg&hash=b8fb4c1f8346def769720917efdf8ff672e46e2f)
And heres a body pic with my face actually looking kinda feminine. Week or two old.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJk7Inhu.jpg&hash=5c6e39f92cd1286aeaa9047f63ea10d6f564018b)
I got called a Lesbian the other day, which kinda boosted my spirits a bit as earlier I had been called sir several times by the staff at McDonalds which kinda ticked me off. So Im unsure of where I lie right now? Passing at all I doubt, Im guessing im looking more like a femme gay guy : P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Adam (birkin) on May 10, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
Post by: Adam (birkin) on May 10, 2014, 07:06:42 PM
Well, I do think you can pass for female Ashlee - when I first saw you I thought you were a pre-everything FTM and my mind said "dude, you need a haircut if you ever want to hope to pass." LOL. Then I checked the thread title and realized this was the MTF section.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 11, 2014, 12:23:32 AM
Post by: @Diana on May 11, 2014, 12:23:32 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on May 10, 2014, 05:51:51 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBAqLZh8.jpg&hash=b8fb4c1f8346def769720917efdf8ff672e46e2f)
very cute, look a bit like Jen Law ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on May 11, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
Post by: Alaia on May 11, 2014, 01:42:46 PM
Ashlee you are looking pretty fem, not sure what those McD workers were thinking...
Looking great for 4 months on HRT. ^^
Looking great for 4 months on HRT. ^^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 07:36:30 PM
The last pic is after the haircut?
Yeah in my eyes you were looking a lot more feminine with longer hair...
Ive told you before , I believe that with e and longer hair you will pass as a female, but honestly that haircut pretty much ruined things:(
I still have nightmares about cutting my hair though XD
Yeah in my eyes you were looking a lot more feminine with longer hair...
Ive told you before , I believe that with e and longer hair you will pass as a female, but honestly that haircut pretty much ruined things:(
I still have nightmares about cutting my hair though XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 07:38:44 PM
No no, the last pic is me holding my hair back behind my head lol <.< I guess it doesn't do me any favours...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 07:41:03 PM
Oh my bad dear XD
but yeah in the first three pics you look much more feminine in my eyes
your hair have an ok length
you ll need estrogen , but im sure you ll be fine :)
but yeah in the first three pics you look much more feminine in my eyes
your hair have an ok length
you ll need estrogen , but im sure you ll be fine :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
*sigh* Anyone else that can comment? =/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 07:48:59 PM
Ashlee and Emo-Are you kidding? Total male fail! You younger girls kill me, argh. ;)
Mermaid- Eyebrows have to go, thin them girl. Other than that maybe nose FFS. Hard to tell everything from the pics.
Mermaid- Eyebrows have to go, thin them girl. Other than that maybe nose FFS. Hard to tell everything from the pics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
Mermaid you did asked for brutally honest opinions...
Everyones idea of male and female is different
thats why some people may think you need a nosejob and some not...
Everyones idea of male and female is different
thats why some people may think you need a nosejob and some not...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
Got to say I laughed a bit at the nose surgery thing, first time I heard that one, but it was also rather offensive...
I apologize for offending you. If you post and ask though people will give you honesty. I thought that is what you wanted.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: @Diana on May 11, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
Post by: @Diana on May 11, 2014, 09:12:48 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 11, 2014, 08:49:26 PM
Mermaid you did asked for brutally honest opinions...
Everyones idea of male and female is different
thats why some people may think you need a nosejob and some not...
i was about to say , she needs forehead implant, brows lift, eye lids surgery, cheek implant, chin implant .. until i saw she mentioned Jessica's comment is offensive .. so I stopped & decided not to post my honest comment
btw ..
am just kidding,
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/A5MlPw6CYAEjzpL.jpg)
you got lots of potential , Mermaid .. wait & see after few months on HRT ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 09:39:18 PM
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 09:39:18 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 08:52:43 PM
I apologize for offending you. If you post and ask though people will give you honesty. I thought that is what you wanted.
You're right. I guess I just want people to confirm the things that I see wrong... which is usually my chin or my jaw or whatever, but then the nose was brought up and that's something I never saw anything wrong with, so I guess I was caught off-guard... I don't think I'll ever be able to afford FFS, so stuff like that would be out of the question.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on May 11, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Post by: sad panda on May 11, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Nooo you do not need a nosejob!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 10:31:37 PM
Post by: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 10:31:37 PM
Quote from: sad panda on May 11, 2014, 10:26:42 PM
Nooo you do not need a nosejob!
Thanks lol!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on May 11, 2014, 10:31:41 PM
Post by: RobinGee on May 11, 2014, 10:31:41 PM
A lot of "you need" spread around here is really overkill. Many people say FFS and basically are not talking about actual feminization, but basically just cosmetic surgery to improve an already female appearance.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 11, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
Post by: llerret on May 11, 2014, 11:53:56 PM
Quote from: RobinGee on May 11, 2014, 10:31:41 PM
A lot of "you need" spread around here is really overkill. Many people say FFS and basically are not talking about actual feminization, but basically just cosmetic surgery to improve an already female appearance.
I agree
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 12, 2014, 12:20:55 AM
Post by: barbie on May 12, 2014, 12:20:55 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 07:33:00 PM
Ugh... yeah. I was forced to cut my hair and feel like "passing" will be impossible. I'm "on HRT"... but not quite. I don't have estrogen, I got a low dosage of anti-androgens to make my genitals limp, and that's it until almost fricking July... *sigh*...
Can anyone be brutally honest? Really. What's masculine and what's not? Any chances? I can take it.
And no, I haven't touched my eyebrows in a year or more...
Mermaid,
I think you have a lot of potential for feminine transition. One specific part of your appearance is not so much critical. Overall appearance including your fashion, body gesture and attitude determines passing. Based on the photos of your partial appearance, it is difficult to evaluate.
Regarding your nose, those smartphone cameras tend to exaggerate it, and I do not think you desperately need a nose job. Biological men tend to have a bigger nose than women.
More importantly, your life and happiness is more important than looking like any specific woman. Everybody is unique, and you can express your own feminine beauty without any drastic modification of your face and body.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 12, 2014, 02:00:53 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on May 12, 2014, 02:00:53 AM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on May 11, 2014, 07:48:59 PMMy direct quote did not say "needed", but maybe because the photo was not clear enough.
Other than that maybe nose FFS. Hard to tell everything from the pics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on May 13, 2014, 04:06:08 AM
Post by: llerret on May 13, 2014, 04:06:08 AM
New haircut! (well wig cut haha)
(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1613867_231830327012277_8025841414331818263_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1613867_231830327012277_8025841414331818263_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sakushi on May 13, 2014, 04:47:12 AM
Post by: Sakushi on May 13, 2014, 04:47:12 AM
heyyy i am lidya 27 yers old M2F
i spend my days full time on work and avrey wear else.
do i close to passing??
what i need to work on to pass ??
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fyecodllvp%2F10247365_10152144549378004_7260397400741747527_n.jpg&hash=db088e479a975d6597d0ac10e8a919f1477ddf81)
i spend my days full time on work and avrey wear else.
do i close to passing??
what i need to work on to pass ??
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fyecodllvp%2F10247365_10152144549378004_7260397400741747527_n.jpg&hash=db088e479a975d6597d0ac10e8a919f1477ddf81)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 13, 2014, 05:37:55 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 13, 2014, 05:37:55 AM
llerret, I think you should probably be posting in the You Look Fabulous thread instead! Great pic.
Sakushi - great passing potential there. Hair maybe needs a bit of styling but otherwise you have a very feminine face.
Sakushi - great passing potential there. Hair maybe needs a bit of styling but otherwise you have a very feminine face.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sakushi on May 13, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
Post by: Sakushi on May 13, 2014, 10:05:08 AM
Quote from: kate on May 13, 2014, 08:38:49 AM
I think you already do pass tbh. You have very cute lips... don't know why i noticed that lol
tnx a lot .. but i don't think i pass. ^___^
but i am prety dam close ...
Ms Grace - tnx for the feedback ^___^ and my hair is still growing whean it will be longer it will be easyer ..
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 13, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Post by: barbie on May 13, 2014, 02:37:50 PM
Quote from: llerret on May 13, 2014, 04:06:08 AM
New haircut! (well wig cut haha)
(https://scontent-a-sjc.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t1.0-9/1613867_231830327012277_8025841414331818263_n.jpg)
Looks lovely and natural!
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: judithlynn on May 13, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
Post by: judithlynn on May 13, 2014, 02:52:09 PM
Hi Sakushi;
You look great. What I suggest is make an apt at a beautician and get your eyebrows waxed into a nice feminine curve. They should be bigger like now in the centre and should thin out in a nice feminine curve at the outer side. Don't try plucking as you will inevitably make a mistake. The treatment only takes 10 minutes and will help you pass immensely.
Judith
You look great. What I suggest is make an apt at a beautician and get your eyebrows waxed into a nice feminine curve. They should be bigger like now in the centre and should thin out in a nice feminine curve at the outer side. Don't try plucking as you will inevitably make a mistake. The treatment only takes 10 minutes and will help you pass immensely.
Judith
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 14, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 14, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Frumpy house frah day...hair a mess. The shirt is supposed to be mildly ironic:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14164028186_ecb3df1a6e_b.jpg)
Alsoo, regardless of what the shirt may portray, I have a BMI of 18.7 as of Sunday and a 24 inch waist haha...so I'm not fat -_- I'm looking really..top heavy shall we say, too, lately :-X erggh I got my mama's genes which would be awesome if I was sure of my gender
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14164028186_ecb3df1a6e_b.jpg)
Alsoo, regardless of what the shirt may portray, I have a BMI of 18.7 as of Sunday and a 24 inch waist haha...so I'm not fat -_- I'm looking really..top heavy shall we say, too, lately :-X erggh I got my mama's genes which would be awesome if I was sure of my gender
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:44:59 AM
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:44:59 AM
so here I am, finally working up the courage to post here.
Sadly I only have 'boy mode' pics; I'm not *completely* 'out' yet
Also I apologize for the FLCL eyebrows; I like to think one day when I can actually get them waxed though that I'll just have that much more material to work with XD
This is a greasy, bathroom selfie from 15 minutes ago
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fj8noyo.jpg&hash=13fe0b651e767da558dfd5375c5e249a31f0ed3d)
This is me when the lighting is a bit better and I haven't spent the entire day on the computer :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fjkcdph.jpg&hash=53d5dd613151271497e1f77e90049727d64bccef)
I realize I have *incredibly* sunken cheeks; you may be shocked to know that HRT has FILLED THEM OUT, that's right, that is FULLER than they once were! Granted, I've always been very underweight, but pre-HRT I was a veritable living skeleton. Hopefully though the cheek-filling trend will continue lol; my biggest concerns are my chin, nose, and cheeks (which I can do little for other than wait). I'm very fortunate to be one of those thin-framed, hairless types (could never grow a beard/mustache) , so obviously my face is my only real concern.
Feel free to be completely honest with me; I'm a sensitive soul but I'm also realistic, and in reality I appreciate all constructive criticism.
The two things I'm most often compared to: Marilyn Manson (*gag*) or a horse, so rest assured I've developed a thick skin.
Sadly I only have 'boy mode' pics; I'm not *completely* 'out' yet
Also I apologize for the FLCL eyebrows; I like to think one day when I can actually get them waxed though that I'll just have that much more material to work with XD
This is a greasy, bathroom selfie from 15 minutes ago
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fj8noyo.jpg&hash=13fe0b651e767da558dfd5375c5e249a31f0ed3d)
This is me when the lighting is a bit better and I haven't spent the entire day on the computer :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fjkcdph.jpg&hash=53d5dd613151271497e1f77e90049727d64bccef)
I realize I have *incredibly* sunken cheeks; you may be shocked to know that HRT has FILLED THEM OUT, that's right, that is FULLER than they once were! Granted, I've always been very underweight, but pre-HRT I was a veritable living skeleton. Hopefully though the cheek-filling trend will continue lol; my biggest concerns are my chin, nose, and cheeks (which I can do little for other than wait). I'm very fortunate to be one of those thin-framed, hairless types (could never grow a beard/mustache) , so obviously my face is my only real concern.
Feel free to be completely honest with me; I'm a sensitive soul but I'm also realistic, and in reality I appreciate all constructive criticism.
The two things I'm most often compared to: Marilyn Manson (*gag*) or a horse, so rest assured I've developed a thick skin.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 15, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 15, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
Can't imagine why people would compare you to a horse unless you are part centauress??
But seriously, you have great potential. A bit of hair styling and brow shaping and a little bit of appropriate make up and... look out!!!
But seriously, you have great potential. A bit of hair styling and brow shaping and a little bit of appropriate make up and... look out!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 02:01:17 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 02:01:17 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on May 11, 2014, 08:22:02 PM
<Image removed at the request of Mermaid>
You kinda resemble feyru (now Jessica Rush)
Jessica if you don't mind me re-inserting your images here,
Her before:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FIW6gGaD.jpg&hash=7303d487393ea86e59f6d0ab473685a35735a551)
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,154107.msg1321621.html#msg1321621
And after:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fr9SGB1Y.jpg&hash=a314da37847d2c7b1ee03ca9ec93e91ef3a28384)
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162746.msg1412761.html#msg1412761
Evelyn's heart going a little pitter patter... again...
Moderator Edit:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 02:16:31 AM
Quote from: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:44:59 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fj8noyo.jpg&hash=13fe0b651e767da558dfd5375c5e249a31f0ed3d)
10lbs of added body fat and those cheeks should fill in nicely. You have a problem cis women would die for! Having a nitro fueled metabolism :D
Not that you don't look lovely now - but you have crazy potential.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 15, 2014, 02:51:59 AM
Post by: barbie on May 15, 2014, 02:51:59 AM
Quote from: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:44:59 AM
so here I am, finally working up the courage to post here.
Sadly I only have 'boy mode' pics; I'm not *completely* 'out' yet
Also I apologize for the FLCL eyebrows; I like to think one day when I can actually get them waxed though that I'll just have that much more material to work with XD
This is a greasy, bathroom selfie from 15 minutes ago
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fj8noyo.jpg&hash=13fe0b651e767da558dfd5375c5e249a31f0ed3d)
This is me when the lighting is a bit better and I haven't spent the entire day on the computer :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fjkcdph.jpg&hash=53d5dd613151271497e1f77e90049727d64bccef)
I realize I have *incredibly* sunken cheeks; you may be shocked to know that HRT has FILLED THEM OUT, that's right, that is FULLER than they once were! Granted, I've always been very underweight, but pre-HRT I was a veritable living skeleton. Hopefully though the cheek-filling trend will continue lol; my biggest concerns are my chin, nose, and cheeks (which I can do little for other than wait). I'm very fortunate to be one of those thin-framed, hairless types (could never grow a beard/mustache) , so obviously my face is my only real concern.
Feel free to be completely honest with me; I'm a sensitive soul but I'm also realistic, and in reality I appreciate all constructive criticism.
The two things I'm most often compared to: Marilyn Manson (*gag*) or a horse, so rest assured I've developed a thick skin.
You look like a typical slim and smart young lady.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paula on May 15, 2014, 05:24:08 AM
Post by: Paula on May 15, 2014, 05:24:08 AM
First of all, you girls are looking so gorgeous! Here are some pictures I just recently took this past week. Do they look passable? Thanks for your honest opinion!
Disclaimer: pre-hrt
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F14n0llx.jpg&hash=3842a940bb482b2b6aa28d54064608d780b38520)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F24c6z3o.jpg&hash=6d5e45f3c1f85f4d22fff9f73668eeb08517e4d2)
Disclaimer: pre-hrt
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F14n0llx.jpg&hash=3842a940bb482b2b6aa28d54064608d780b38520)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F24c6z3o.jpg&hash=6d5e45f3c1f85f4d22fff9f73668eeb08517e4d2)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 15, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 15, 2014, 08:54:21 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 15, 2014, 12:55:06 AMditto
Can't imagine why people would compare you to a horse unless you are part centauress??
But seriously, you have great potential. A bit of hair styling and brow shaping and a little bit of appropriate make up and... look out!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 15, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 15, 2014, 08:55:56 AM
Quote from: Paula on May 15, 2014, 05:24:08 AMyour average girl friend
First of all, you girls are looking so gorgeous! Here are some pictures I just recently took this past week. Do they look passable? Thanks for your honest opinion!
Disclaimer: pre-hrt
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F14n0llx.jpg&hash=3842a940bb482b2b6aa28d54064608d780b38520)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F24c6z3o.jpg&hash=6d5e45f3c1f85f4d22fff9f73668eeb08517e4d2)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 15, 2014, 12:55:06 AM
Can't imagine why people would compare you to a horse unless you are part centauress??
But seriously, you have great potential. A bit of hair styling and brow shaping and a little bit of appropriate make up and... look out!!!
Thank you so much! Thanks to everyone else who replied too! I'm inordinately self-conscious when it comes to my face, but I'm coming out of my shell. ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Post by: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:03:00 PM
Quote from: Paula on May 15, 2014, 05:24:08 AM
First of all, you girls are looking so gorgeous! Here are some pictures I just recently took this past week. Do they look passable? Thanks for your honest opinion!
Disclaimer: pre-hrt
Paula, you are most DEFINITELY passable! Just wait till you get on HRT, you'll be unstoppable!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: KelsieJ on May 15, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Post by: KelsieJ on May 15, 2014, 04:05:02 PM
Ashlee, Abby and Emo, you 3 are KILLING it, girls :D
And Handy, you'll do REALLY well with those cheekbones, girlfriend :)
And Handy, you'll do REALLY well with those cheekbones, girlfriend :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 08:12:05 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 08:12:05 PM
Quote from: Abbyxo on May 14, 2014, 03:53:25 PM
Frumpy house frah day...hair a mess. The shirt is supposed to be mildly ironic:
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2896/14164028186_ecb3df1a6e_b.jpg)
Alsoo, regardless of what the shirt may portray, I have a BMI of 18.7 as of Sunday and a 24 inch waist haha...so I'm not fat -_- I'm looking really..top heavy shall we say, too, lately :-X erggh I got my mama's genes which would be awesome if I was sure of my gender
How can you not be sure now. ;)
Abby I've never seen you with any hint of facial hair. Did you laser?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 16, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 16, 2014, 02:58:45 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on May 15, 2014, 08:12:05 PM
How can you not be sure now. ;)
Abby I've never seen you with any hint of facial hair. Did you laser?
No, haha. Even before transition I was one of those twinky boy types soo, pretty hairless, lol :3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe Snow on May 16, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Post by: Zoe Snow on May 16, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Am I starting to pass?
6 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fjfddwis.jpg&hash=f06578971356a04a594a1142484985fb17f71bdb)
Also around the 6 month mark, in a very slaphappy mood due to getting in really late from a delayed flight.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJAbtIUC.jpg&hash=31ffb0dfc99db013bf2fe72579e4f8e024dd5a99)
6.5 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgTlq8FP.jpg&hash=1b0e41652bb0356db196ead42ee05d87dd4a57fb)
6 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fjfddwis.jpg&hash=f06578971356a04a594a1142484985fb17f71bdb)
Also around the 6 month mark, in a very slaphappy mood due to getting in really late from a delayed flight.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJAbtIUC.jpg&hash=31ffb0dfc99db013bf2fe72579e4f8e024dd5a99)
6.5 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgTlq8FP.jpg&hash=1b0e41652bb0356db196ead42ee05d87dd4a57fb)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 16, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 16, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
I took a few yesterday. Do I pass? Blunt honesty would be appreciated. In the third one my face isn't clear but I just wanted to get a shot of my body (and unfortunately I can only take full body shots on my webcam).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWC1mYrK.jpg&hash=7610bed57b571a61fad10ba7a96a7176d44ad866)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyxS71ba.jpg&hash=fa8f76daa3e2b0bd83995387768f37bf1a09546b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWTjYEuv.jpg&hash=72f024685ca7ba4327a0482e22e0083c1b33b63a)
Here's one I took a while ago for a full body shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFXC4Emc.jpg&hash=731e48085c714e3aabd165fe249fae432d3db1fd)
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't even take a second glance. I'd say you pass quite nicely :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWC1mYrK.jpg&hash=7610bed57b571a61fad10ba7a96a7176d44ad866)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyxS71ba.jpg&hash=fa8f76daa3e2b0bd83995387768f37bf1a09546b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWTjYEuv.jpg&hash=72f024685ca7ba4327a0482e22e0083c1b33b63a)
Here's one I took a while ago for a full body shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFXC4Emc.jpg&hash=731e48085c714e3aabd165fe249fae432d3db1fd)
Quote from: Zoe Snow on May 16, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Am I starting to pass?
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't even take a second glance. I'd say you pass quite nicely :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on May 16, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
Post by: antonia on May 16, 2014, 11:31:35 PM
That second picture with your nice smile looks 100% female, the first and third look 95% female but only 5% male, way to go girl!
Quote from: Zoe Snow on May 16, 2014, 04:55:56 PM
Am I starting to pass?
6 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fjfddwis.jpg&hash=f06578971356a04a594a1142484985fb17f71bdb)
Also around the 6 month mark, in a very slaphappy mood due to getting in really late from a delayed flight.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJAbtIUC.jpg&hash=31ffb0dfc99db013bf2fe72579e4f8e024dd5a99)
6.5 Months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgTlq8FP.jpg&hash=1b0e41652bb0356db196ead42ee05d87dd4a57fb)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 17, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 17, 2014, 12:38:56 AM
Zoe, you pass imho and the 3rd pic my mind went straight to my fav folk singer Brandi Carlile:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com%2Fnewsminer.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F5%2F93%2F593a923d-3f04-5592-907a-7262a5de6573%2F50fd98cc4149a.preview-300.jpg&hash=06636b7036f40c8068e6f20205b31bb64112c4c0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fbloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com%2Fnewsminer.com%2Fcontent%2Ftncms%2Fassets%2Fv3%2Feditorial%2F5%2F93%2F593a923d-3f04-5592-907a-7262a5de6573%2F50fd98cc4149a.preview-300.jpg&hash=06636b7036f40c8068e6f20205b31bb64112c4c0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 06:56:41 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 06:56:41 AM
Don't want to sound like I'm complaining excessively, but is there a reason I got skipped? Did I post incorrectly or is there a certain format that I'm supposed to be following? This is my first time posting in the new thread, so if there's something I messed up, please tell me so I can fix it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on May 17, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
Post by: RobinGee on May 17, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 17, 2014, 06:56:41 AMbut is there a reason I got skipped?
There are no rules or format, you just got skipped.
Also this thread has long ceased to offer passing critique and is mostly a clone of the fabulous thread with lower standards.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Quote from: RobinGee on May 17, 2014, 08:48:57 AM
There are no rules or format, you just got skipped.
Also this thread has long ceased to offer passing critique and is mostly a clone of the fabulous thread with lower standards.
Oh...well can anyone give some comments or something? I'd still like to know what people think.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hayley on May 17, 2014, 12:40:12 PM
Post by: Hayley on May 17, 2014, 12:40:12 PM
Decided that I would post again here. This time boy mode and just waking up/lazy day stuff.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps9b9c5413.jpg&hash=8f8f3c7634098b2b498c31cf582c506bcd20f717) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9b9c5413.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsde271d38.jpg&hash=1788f8414cc798824567ad488e228c7e50e9afe6) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsde271d38.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsddb3fb7b.jpg&hash=1cd6fc7d4b144e537b01205e327a99d25917f958) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsddb3fb7b.jpg.html)
Ps sorry for he smirk in the last one I was holding in a laugh. And if they are upside down I'm to lazy to actually go to my computer and fix them
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps9b9c5413.jpg&hash=8f8f3c7634098b2b498c31cf582c506bcd20f717) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps9b9c5413.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsde271d38.jpg&hash=1788f8414cc798824567ad488e228c7e50e9afe6) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsde271d38.jpg.html) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi917.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fad15%2FHayleyRMc%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsddb3fb7b.jpg&hash=1cd6fc7d4b144e537b01205e327a99d25917f958) (http://s917.photobucket.com/user/HayleyRMc/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsddb3fb7b.jpg.html)
Ps sorry for he smirk in the last one I was holding in a laugh. And if they are upside down I'm to lazy to actually go to my computer and fix them
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 17, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 17, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
Quote from: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:01:27 PM
Thank you so much! Thanks to everyone else who replied too! I'm inordinately self-conscious when it comes to my face, but I'm coming out of my shell. ;D
I'm late on this thread but feel compelled to say that you actually have a naturally very pretty, feminine face in my book. Probably you will want to address the high nose bridge at some point in the future but you do really look good from the start.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
Post by: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
You look female to me Haley. The one in the heather grey tshirt is probably the most masculine but then again I have seen regular cis girls without their makeup in the morning and things are often equally not fem. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 17, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 17, 2014, 12:54:18 PM
Quote from: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
You look female to me Haley. The one in the heather grey tshirt is probably the most masculine but then again I have seen regular cis girls without their makeup in the morning and things are often equally not fem. ;)
+1 Yup, there I told you so Hayley! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 17, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 17, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 17, 2014, 06:56:41 AM
Don't want to sound like I'm complaining excessively, but is there a reason I got skipped? Did I post incorrectly or is there a certain format that I'm supposed to be following? This is my first time posting in the new thread, so if there's something I messed up, please tell me so I can fix it.
I would say, in my honest opinion, in the first two photos you're not passing, but then that looks like a very unflattering camera angle.
Then for the the 3rd..it's a little blurry, but you look like you could with hormones...are you on yet?
Then the last, it's a bit difficult to see, but I don't know if I see major problems..but then I'm not an expert at this.
Anyway thats my honest opinion *hug*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 17, 2014, 01:01:56 PM
Quote from: Abbyxo on May 17, 2014, 12:57:20 PM
I would say, in my honest opinion, in the first two photos you're not passing, but then that looks like a very unflattering camera angle.
Then for the the 3rd..it's a little blurry, but you look like you could with hormones...are you on yet?
Then the last, it's a bit difficult to see, but I don't know if I see major problems..but then I'm not an expert at this.
Anyway thats my honest opinion *hug*
Oh ok, thanks for the honesty. For the first two pics, I've been told it's my forehead. I guess my hairline is a little masculine. And yea, that shot makes my brow bone show a lot. So I guess maybe that has something to do with it? My chin also looks really small in that shot so I feel like that might be it too. Maybe makeup will help.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hayley on May 17, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
Post by: Hayley on May 17, 2014, 01:05:50 PM
Quote from: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 12:51:56 PM
You look female to me Haley. The one in the heather grey tshirt is probably the most masculine but then again I have seen regular cis girls without their makeup in the morning and things are often equally not fem. ;)
Thank you. That is what I am going for in the gray shirt. In that one I am at work. I'm still not out there so I try to look more masculine. And yes I know you told me Shan. Thank you both for letting me know.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 17, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Post by: barbie on May 17, 2014, 02:04:57 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 17, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Oh...well can anyone give some comments or something? I'd still like to know what people think.
Riversong,
Based on your smartphone photos, it is difficult to evaluate, as some photos are too dark. And self-taken photos tend to exaggerate the size of nose. Your hair is still short. The most important factor in passing as a woman is your hair style.
Passing is not just about your face. It is about overall appearance, fashion, body gesture and voice.
BTW, in everyday life, I mostly do not pass.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Post by: Christine167 on May 17, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 17, 2014, 06:56:41 AMYou didn't mess anything up. In fact you are looking good. I'm right there with you in a very awkward stage of this. Yes you look fem but to ourselves and some others there is just that something off...
Don't want to sound like I'm complaining excessively, but is there a reason I got skipped? Did I post incorrectly or is there a certain format that I'm supposed to be following? This is my first time posting in the new thread, so if there's something I messed up, please tell me so I can fix it.
A lot of has to do with style and progression of physical changes. Getting that balance of style, behavior, and female physical traits to pass. It can be an ordeal but from what I have seen in others just hang in there.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyBunny on May 17, 2014, 10:44:06 PM
Post by: HoneyBunny on May 17, 2014, 10:44:06 PM
So I have been experimenting with my make up recently.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwYIDpNF.jpg&hash=8d0b4cf88aa37cc4e9875e5d8e04b47bec0a5800) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbBgB4Pl.jpg&hash=93d2fa7c05fe4f27a8c5b9f051b00c27fe14ccae)
here is the first picture but I ran it through that skybiometry website.
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I think I can pass okay, but I am not for sure on it. It may be my voice that gives it away.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FwYIDpNF.jpg&hash=8d0b4cf88aa37cc4e9875e5d8e04b47bec0a5800) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FbBgB4Pl.jpg&hash=93d2fa7c05fe4f27a8c5b9f051b00c27fe14ccae)
here is the first picture but I ran it through that skybiometry website.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUGw9mYQ.jpg&hash=cfbdff96352a84f0a8b67fd4db5e02bc90a61f2a)
I think I can pass okay, but I am not for sure on it. It may be my voice that gives it away.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on May 17, 2014, 11:32:17 PM
Post by: V M on May 17, 2014, 11:32:17 PM
You looks a girl to me HoneyBunny :icon_chick:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 12:46:57 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 17, 2014, 09:02:02 AM
Oh...well can anyone give some comments or something? I'd still like to know what people think.
Sorry, it can be hard to respond to everyone - usually everyone gets at least a few comments but I know it doesn't feel great to get nothing.
Quote from: riversong on May 16, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
I took a few yesterday. Do I pass? Blunt honesty would be appreciated. In the third one my face isn't clear but I just wanted to get a shot of my body (and unfortunately I can only take full body shots on my webcam).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyxS71ba.jpg&hash=fa8f76daa3e2b0bd83995387768f37bf1a09546b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWTjYEuv.jpg&hash=72f024685ca7ba4327a0482e22e0083c1b33b63a)
I would say you could pass, but until you sort out your look it's not easy to say for sure. You have a potentially strong female face but something seems to be missing. Maybe a touch of makeup? The body shot looks more convincing but perhaps still needs some styling, etc. It's easier to see the band in your hair in the second shot and that certainly helps. A different posture and a touch of tasteful bling and you're well on your way. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 12:48:06 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 12:48:06 AM
Quote from: HoneyBunny on May 17, 2014, 10:44:06 PM
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Get thee to the "You look fabulous" thread! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on May 18, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Post by: E-Brennan on May 18, 2014, 01:25:19 PM
Quote from: Hayley on May 17, 2014, 12:40:12 PMThis time boy mode and just waking up/lazy day stuff.
If the first picture is "boy mode" and the others are what you look like when you're not trying, you're doing everything right. Very pretty.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
ok lets give this a fresh shot lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxNTuWKD.jpg&hash=a4ab75c4e50aebcd0fb45cd55f550fdd040d3e71)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHPz7wLH.jpg&hash=fa51e8c2364e8a9020daf8c86d634ce4532a1fb8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxNTuWKD.jpg&hash=a4ab75c4e50aebcd0fb45cd55f550fdd040d3e71)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHPz7wLH.jpg&hash=fa51e8c2364e8a9020daf8c86d634ce4532a1fb8)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 18, 2014, 07:25:21 PM
Really like the second one, that colour and look suits you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:26:29 PM
Thank you grace. the first was on my way home from work lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on May 18, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
Post by: ashrock on May 18, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
Alright, Im rather nervous about this.... Here goes... I apologize in advance for the bad image quality...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2F10208f22-ba4e-4ce1-ac32-ce40420c8e7e_zps69ded2cb.jpg&hash=5b6a6d44e400f02bad5efe6b48e4c754021f554c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FDSC02043_zps1d314423.jpg&hash=3bd992c6623369ef9f90c3ae71ed3c376c0afa11)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2F10208f22-ba4e-4ce1-ac32-ce40420c8e7e_zps69ded2cb.jpg&hash=5b6a6d44e400f02bad5efe6b48e4c754021f554c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FDSC02043_zps1d314423.jpg&hash=3bd992c6623369ef9f90c3ae71ed3c376c0afa11)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:30:39 PM
Post by: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:30:39 PM
I think and just my opinion the second pic looks more passable. you do look great in both though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 18, 2014, 07:36:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 18, 2014, 07:36:29 PM
Quote from: Sheala on May 18, 2014, 07:23:05 PM
ok lets give this a fresh shot lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxNTuWKD.jpg&hash=a4ab75c4e50aebcd0fb45cd55f550fdd040d3e71)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHPz7wLH.jpg&hash=fa51e8c2364e8a9020daf8c86d634ce4532a1fb8)
Had you not been the greeter at the Hotel California Ms. Doll Face I might not have checked in but now I am who I have become and am stuck with it and am unable to check back out, kind of like the Roach Motel :D. :laugh:
But yes you are very pretty and are well on your way to being a rather terrific looking lady.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 18, 2014, 07:42:36 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 18, 2014, 07:42:36 PM
Quote from: ashrock on May 18, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
Alright, Im rather nervous about this.... Here goes... I apologize in advance for the bad image quality...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2F10208f22-ba4e-4ce1-ac32-ce40420c8e7e_zps69ded2cb.jpg&hash=5b6a6d44e400f02bad5efe6b48e4c754021f554c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FDSC02043_zps1d314423.jpg&hash=3bd992c6623369ef9f90c3ae71ed3c376c0afa11)
Ashrock,
You have some really good features and are on your way, love your super curly hair even if you don't and you have a nice face and body to work with. Some of the other women could give you a much better critique than I'm capable of, good job though!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: devon14 on May 18, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
Post by: devon14 on May 18, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
I'm not too concerned if I "pass" because I go out every day whether it be work or elsewhere dressed as the woman I know I am. This is kind of just an update on my appearance after almost two months on hormones and wondering what people think. My 3DS can no longer detect my face as male so I think I am going in the right direction. :D
Please only give me constructive feedback and no empty compliments please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FAthena_5-18-14_zpsc231a099.jpg&hash=612b2f4c9853e8b078f6f1af68a1b51cd0a5d0f2)
UPDATE:
Thought I would add this picture as a comparison. This is what I looked like a year before hormones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FDevon_zps587c062c.jpg&hash=987a39c12f6ba52c0850f8ed042a9196a321ac7e)
Please only give me constructive feedback and no empty compliments please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FAthena_5-18-14_zpsc231a099.jpg&hash=612b2f4c9853e8b078f6f1af68a1b51cd0a5d0f2)
UPDATE:
Thought I would add this picture as a comparison. This is what I looked like a year before hormones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FDevon_zps587c062c.jpg&hash=987a39c12f6ba52c0850f8ed042a9196a321ac7e)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on May 18, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
Post by: V M on May 18, 2014, 11:34:15 PM
You look like an average girl imo
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 18, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 18, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Okay, tonight I decided to try makeup for the first time. I'm pretty sure I made a mess of it.
Still, I just wanted to know what do you folks think? Does she look like a Tegan?
Please be honest, but constructive. Thank you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2Fa251ccc423d993f8b7c9815178ac2cb8.jpg&hash=9da0e82b82471285cd57119bfc1783df5bd5f078)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F227724e8f5dcc6cac404cf652559462e.jpg&hash=f53346b6ded0bc4ff60abc618b07c91276664da4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F1e2bbb87fe89b2d2cda0efc26e975f02.jpg&hash=10e2739284e5f8dc48c62b60bb8ba96f34da1737)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F7f122699a01817afd810c2ba8d3f1495.jpg&hash=729338694b0baef6e08778c73b4461aed1c4f472)
Cheers,
Teg
Still, I just wanted to know what do you folks think? Does she look like a Tegan?
Please be honest, but constructive. Thank you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2Fa251ccc423d993f8b7c9815178ac2cb8.jpg&hash=9da0e82b82471285cd57119bfc1783df5bd5f078)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F227724e8f5dcc6cac404cf652559462e.jpg&hash=f53346b6ded0bc4ff60abc618b07c91276664da4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F1e2bbb87fe89b2d2cda0efc26e975f02.jpg&hash=10e2739284e5f8dc48c62b60bb8ba96f34da1737)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F7f122699a01817afd810c2ba8d3f1495.jpg&hash=729338694b0baef6e08778c73b4461aed1c4f472)
Cheers,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Pinkie on May 19, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
Post by: Pinkie on May 19, 2014, 12:33:07 AM
http://s1288.photobucket.com/user/DanielleLBS/library/?sort=3&page=1
I mean, obviously not right now because I'm super gross and boyish but, like, suppose I lost a ton of weight, learned how to do my makeup, and got a better hairstyle? Do you think I would have a chance, or would I need to start hormones first?
I mean, obviously not right now because I'm super gross and boyish but, like, suppose I lost a ton of weight, learned how to do my makeup, and got a better hairstyle? Do you think I would have a chance, or would I need to start hormones first?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: latoya rayne on May 19, 2014, 12:37:08 AM
Post by: latoya rayne on May 19, 2014, 12:37:08 AM
Your pictures are private, no one can see them :/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Pinkie on May 19, 2014, 12:39:21 AM
Post by: Pinkie on May 19, 2014, 12:39:21 AM
Oh gosh! Sorry, sorry, sorry! I fixed it. It's not private anymore
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 18, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Okay, tonight I decided to try makeup for the first time. I'm pretty sure I made a mess of it.
Still, I just wanted to know what do you folks think? Does she look like a Tegan?
Please be honest, but constructive. Thank you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2Fa251ccc423d993f8b7c9815178ac2cb8.jpg&hash=9da0e82b82471285cd57119bfc1783df5bd5f078)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F227724e8f5dcc6cac404cf652559462e.jpg&hash=f53346b6ded0bc4ff60abc618b07c91276664da4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F1e2bbb87fe89b2d2cda0efc26e975f02.jpg&hash=10e2739284e5f8dc48c62b60bb8ba96f34da1737)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F7f122699a01817afd810c2ba8d3f1495.jpg&hash=729338694b0baef6e08778c73b4461aed1c4f472)
Cheers,
Teg
I have recommendations in terms of your selfie taking. Try to prop your device somewhere and put the camera on a timer and stand in front of the camera so that you can get a better body shot of yourself without having to hold your device up to a mirror like that. Then try getting a close up of your face by using the device's front facing camera (if it has one). From the pictures you took, you look a bit stressed in them. Try looking more relaxed and natural before you take your selfies, they will turn out much better that way.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on May 19, 2014, 07:35:39 AM
Post by: Handy on May 19, 2014, 07:35:39 AM
Quote from: Shantel on May 17, 2014, 12:50:35 PM
I'm late on this thread but feel compelled to say that you actually have a naturally very pretty, feminine face in my book. Probably you will want to address the high nose bridge at some point in the future but you do really look good from the start.
Thank you!! ;D You have no idea how much good those comments do for my self-esteem!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 19, 2014, 08:08:03 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 19, 2014, 08:08:03 AM
Thanks for the feedback, everyone!
I can't surmise anything unpassable about your face :) To improve on your look, I would say get an eyebrow trim, and wear a bit of makeup.
I'd say you pass just fine!
Hmm...it's hard to say, since my first thought is that your face looks a bit masculine, but since I can't surmise exactly what it is, I have to assume that it's just my imagination. You have a very slim figure that will probably make it very hard for people to see you as male :)
Quote from: ashrock on May 18, 2014, 07:28:08 PM
Alright, Im rather nervous about this.... Here goes... I apologize in advance for the bad image quality...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2F10208f22-ba4e-4ce1-ac32-ce40420c8e7e_zps69ded2cb.jpg&hash=5b6a6d44e400f02bad5efe6b48e4c754021f554c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FDSC02043_zps1d314423.jpg&hash=3bd992c6623369ef9f90c3ae71ed3c376c0afa11)
I can't surmise anything unpassable about your face :) To improve on your look, I would say get an eyebrow trim, and wear a bit of makeup.
Quote from: Athena on May 18, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
I'm not too concerned if I "pass" because I go out every day whether it be work or elsewhere dressed as the woman I know I am. This is kind of just an update on my appearance after almost two months on hormones and wondering what people think. My 3DS can no longer detect my face as male so I think I am going in the right direction. :D
Please only give me constructive feedback and no empty compliments please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FAthena_5-18-14_zpsc231a099.jpg&hash=612b2f4c9853e8b078f6f1af68a1b51cd0a5d0f2)
UPDATE:
Thought I would add this picture as a comparison. This is what I looked like a year before hormones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FDevon_zps587c062c.jpg&hash=987a39c12f6ba52c0850f8ed042a9196a321ac7e)
I'd say you pass just fine!
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 18, 2014, 11:43:22 PM
Okay, tonight I decided to try makeup for the first time. I'm pretty sure I made a mess of it.
Still, I just wanted to know what do you folks think? Does she look like a Tegan?
Please be honest, but constructive. Thank you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2Fa251ccc423d993f8b7c9815178ac2cb8.jpg&hash=9da0e82b82471285cd57119bfc1783df5bd5f078)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F227724e8f5dcc6cac404cf652559462e.jpg&hash=f53346b6ded0bc4ff60abc618b07c91276664da4)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F1e2bbb87fe89b2d2cda0efc26e975f02.jpg&hash=10e2739284e5f8dc48c62b60bb8ba96f34da1737)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F7f122699a01817afd810c2ba8d3f1495.jpg&hash=729338694b0baef6e08778c73b4461aed1c4f472)
Cheers,
Teg
Hmm...it's hard to say, since my first thought is that your face looks a bit masculine, but since I can't surmise exactly what it is, I have to assume that it's just my imagination. You have a very slim figure that will probably make it very hard for people to see you as male :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JulieBlair on May 19, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
Post by: JulieBlair on May 19, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
Teg,
You'll do fine. I've already told you that you are beautiful, well you're pretty darn cute too. Here are the obvious tells.
You'll need to do some eyebrow shaping,
If you're going to wear a tee shirt, ditch the arm hair.
Buy some breast forms, but don't get carried away and go for super busty. We aren't trying to attract attention, at least not at first.
OK so the first time you go out if you have a cis-girlfriend you can go with you will have an absolute blast. Best not to go alone, it is just too scary. You'll eventually need to work on your voice, you sound like an English teacher. But for now be the amazing girl you have inside.
Love You Lots,
Julie
You'll do fine. I've already told you that you are beautiful, well you're pretty darn cute too. Here are the obvious tells.
You'll need to do some eyebrow shaping,
If you're going to wear a tee shirt, ditch the arm hair.
Buy some breast forms, but don't get carried away and go for super busty. We aren't trying to attract attention, at least not at first.
OK so the first time you go out if you have a cis-girlfriend you can go with you will have an absolute blast. Best not to go alone, it is just too scary. You'll eventually need to work on your voice, you sound like an English teacher. But for now be the amazing girl you have inside.
Love You Lots,
Julie
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Ok girls I need your help for just a second XD
Ive been meaning to post a profile picture of me on facebook, havent done it in months and im sure old friends and stuff will be surprised,,,
I dont really care about that though all I want is for my picture to look 100% passable , or I see no point...
So thats why I need your help , I need you to tell me if the pic below is passable etc, pls pls you can tell I need honest opinions,
if you dont see a girl in it pls say it to me straight and I ll try a better pic some other time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
Ive been meaning to post a profile picture of me on facebook, havent done it in months and im sure old friends and stuff will be surprised,,,
I dont really care about that though all I want is for my picture to look 100% passable , or I see no point...
So thats why I need your help , I need you to tell me if the pic below is passable etc, pls pls you can tell I need honest opinions,
if you dont see a girl in it pls say it to me straight and I ll try a better pic some other time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 19, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Post by: Shantel on May 19, 2014, 10:16:35 AM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Ok girls I need your help for just a second XD
Ive been meaning to post a profile picture of me on facebook, havent done it in months and im sure old friends and stuff will be surprised,,,
I dont really care about that though all I want is for my picture to look 100% passable , or I see no point...
So thats why I need your help , I need you to tell me if the pic below is passable etc, pls pls you can tell I need honest opinions,
if you dont see a girl in it pls say it to me straight and I ll try a better pic some other time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
Absolutely 100% in my estimation Princess!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on May 19, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on May 19, 2014, 12:05:10 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
What's the mark of honesty again? Is it an asterisk? Anyway, you most definitely look female in that picture. Most definitely. *
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on May 19, 2014, 12:54:42 PM
Post by: ashrock on May 19, 2014, 12:54:42 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Ok girls I need your help for just a second XD
Ive been meaning to post a profile picture of me on facebook, havent done it in months and im sure old friends and stuff will be surprised,,,
I dont really care about that though all I want is for my picture to look 100% passable , or I see no point...
So thats why I need your help , I need you to tell me if the pic below is passable etc, pls pls you can tell I need honest opinions,
if you dont see a girl in it pls say it to me straight and I ll try a better pic some other time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
Uhhhh, yeah, not only a girl but a lot like one I dated at one point on top of that...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 12:58:08 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 12:58:08 PM
oh thanks girls :)
guess I should go for it then.
guess I should go for it then.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Quote from: Athena on May 19, 2014, 03:37:04 AM
I have recommendations in terms of your selfie taking. Try to prop your device somewhere and put the camera on a timer and stand in front of the camera so that you can get a better body shot of yourself without having to hold your device up to a mirror like that. Then try getting a close up of your face by using the device's front facing camera (if it has one). From the pictures you took, you look a bit stressed in them. Try looking more relaxed and natural before you take your selfies, they will turn out much better that way.
Athena,
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I suppose I look a little uncomfortable in a couple of those. The grin is definitely forced, though I still rather like the first two pics, at least. Besides my photo skills, whatcha think?
Quote from: riversong link=topic=163371.msg1430215#msg1430215 date=
Hmm...it's hard to say, since my first thought is that your face looks a bit masculine, but since I can't surmise exactly what it is, I have to assume that it's just my imagination. You have a very slim figure that will probably make it very hard for people to see you as male :)
Thanks for the thoughts, River (or should I say Sweetie?). I'm really hoping that the masculine you picked up had to do mostly with the eyebrows and hair length. Also, due to nocturnal teeth grinding (yet another dysphoria-stress-related behavior), my jaw muscles are prominent; hopefully HRT will put an end to the teeth-grinding, and melt those muscles away.
And thanks for the comment about my figure- I'm really happy with it, especially since I came across an old, heavy picture of me the other day (ugh). I really thought the width of my shoulders would be a problem, but even pre-HRT they look okay, don't they?
If it comes to you, River, where the masculine impression is stemming from, I'd be very grateful to know so that I can try to correct. Thanks.
This was just a trial-run, and that is literally my only girl shirt. I'll try again soon, once my hair has grown more (it's thick and grows incredibly fast), I've got something better to wear, and I've figured out something about makeup.
Quote from: JulieBlair on May 19, 2014, 08:35:57 AM
Teg,
You'll do fine. I've already told you that you are beautiful, well you're pretty darn cute too. Here are the obvious tells.
You'll need to do some eyebrow shaping,
If you're going to wear a tee shirt, ditch the arm hair.
Buy some breast forms, but don't get carried away and go for super busty. We aren't trying to attract attention, at least not at first.
OK so the first time you go out if you have a cis-girlfriend you can go with you will have an absolute blast. Best not to go alone, it is just too scary. You'll eventually need to work on your voice, you sound like an English teacher. But for now be the amazing girl you have inside.
Love You Lots,
Julie
Hi Julie, thanks for your opinion- your thoughts mean a lot to me. Of course, the arm hair will need to go, and the eyebrows need a major overhaul. I've got a family portrait coming up in a week, though, and I intend to be my parents' son in it, so yeah... Certain things need to wait.
As far as breast forms, I never intended to present as super-busty, but thanks for the note. I like the idea of a respectable size, but not overkill. Besides, I think breast forms and dressing out are still a long way away for me.
As for the voice, it's something I'm working on. My range is pretty decent to begin with (you haven't heard my attempt at speaking femme yet, Julie. It mosty only comes out in my therapy sessions these days, tbh). I'm going to practice through the Summer. I even got a DVD and CD to help with that. And if I go full-transition, I wouldn't be opposed to a trip to Yeson at some point.
Just curious, though. I "sound like an English teacher"? Elucidate, if you please. What's an English teacher sound like? :)
Thanks, ladies. If anyone else would like to chime in, I'd be really grateful.
Cheers,
Tegan
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on May 19, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on May 19, 2014, 01:55:02 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on May 19, 2014, 10:10:24 AM
Ok girls I need your help for just a second XD
Ive been meaning to post a profile picture of me on facebook, havent done it in months and im sure old friends and stuff will be surprised,,,
I dont really care about that though all I want is for my picture to look 100% passable , or I see no point...
So thats why I need your help , I need you to tell me if the pic below is passable etc, pls pls you can tell I need honest opinions,
if you dont see a girl in it pls say it to me straight and I ll try a better pic some other time.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs28.postimg.org%2Fdtim566nt%2FSnapshot_20140519_18.jpg&hash=cfd9c9523b9a93f42ef8b0febd322d68989a418d) (http://postimg.org/image/dtim566nt/)
Oh my. Look what we have her(e)...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Athena,
Thanks for the feedback. Yeah, I suppose I look a little uncomfortable in a couple of those. The grin is definitely forced, though I still rather like the first two pics, at least. Besides my photo skills, whatcha think?
Thanks for the thoughts, River (or should I say Sweetie?). I'm really hoping that the masculine you picked up had to do mostly with the eyebrows and hair length. Also, due to nocturnal teeth grinding (yet another dysphoria-stress-related behavior), my jaw muscles are prominent; hopefully HRT will put an end to the teeth-grinding, and melt those muscles away.
And thanks for the comment about my figure- I'm really happy with it, especially since I came across an old, heavy picture of me the other day (ugh). I really thought the width of my shoulders would be a problem, but even pre-HRT they look okay, don't they?
If it comes to you, River, where the masculine impression is stemming from, I'd be very grateful to know so that I can try to correct. Thanks.
This was just a trial-run, and that is literally my only girl shirt. I'll try again soon, once my hair has grown more (it's thick and grows incredibly fast), I've got something better to wear, and I've figured out something about makeup.
Hi Julie, thanks for your opinion- your thoughts mean a lot to me. Of course, the arm hair will need to go, and the eyebrows need a major overhaul. I've got a family portrait coming up in a week, though, and I intend to be my parents' son in it, so yeah... Certain things need to wait.
As far as breast forms, I never intended to present as super-busty, but thanks for the note. I like the idea of a respectable size, but not overkill. Besides, I think breast forms and dressing out are still a long way away for me.
As for the voice, it's something I'm working on. My range is pretty decent to begin with (you haven't heard my attempt at speaking femme yet, Julie. It mosty only comes out in my therapy sessions these days, tbh). I'm going to practice through the Summer. I even got a DVD and CD to help with that. And if I go full-transition, I wouldn't be opposed to a trip to Yeson at some point.
Just curious, though. I "sound like an English teacher"? Elucidate, if you please. What's an English teacher sound like? :)
Thanks, ladies. If anyone else would like to chime in, I'd be really grateful.
Cheers,
Tegan
I think I could give you better advice given that your pictures look more natural and less forced. Id'e love to give you some advice after you take some more pictures :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Quote from: Athena on May 19, 2014, 01:55:49 PM
I think I could give you better advice given that your pictures look more natural and less forced. Id'e love to give you some advice after you take some more pictures :)
Wow, Athena, photo snob much? Lol
I'll give it another shot soon.
Btw, for the record, that smirk isn't me being uncomfortable; it's me being me.
Thanks,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 19, 2014, 02:14:13 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 19, 2014, 02:14:13 PM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 01:46:36 PM
Thanks for the thoughts, River (or should I say Sweetie?). I'm really hoping that the masculine you picked up had to do mostly with the eyebrows and hair length. Also, due to nocturnal teeth grinding (yet another dysphoria-stress-related behavior), my jaw muscles are prominent; hopefully HRT will put an end to the teeth-grinding, and melt those muscles away.
Yay reference!
I actually have the same jaw muscle problem. I grind my teeth a lot (but unfortunately it's not limited to while I'm sleeping), and I've got some seriously obvious muscles to show for it. But that's something that hormones are known to fix, so I don't think we'll have a problem with it once we start up on HRT :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 02:17:18 PM
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 02:17:18 PM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 02:06:22 PM
Wow, Athena, photo snob much? Lol
I'll give it another shot soon.
Btw, for the record, that smirk isn't me being uncomfortable; it's me being me.
Thanks,
Teg
Sorry :(
I didn't mean to be rude or offend. I just like to see people in the best shots possible because photos that are even a bit off could skew my judgement of someone and I don't want to misjudge someones appearance. I'm a bit of a perfectionist ;)
BTW, I think that smirk is adorable :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 02:40:13 PM
Not offended, Athena, just playing. That's what the lol was for!
Thanks, I like my smirk, too.
Cheers!
Tegan
Thanks, I like my smirk, too.
Cheers!
Tegan
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
Post by: devon14 on May 19, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
Quote from: Athena on May 18, 2014, 11:23:00 PM
I'm not too concerned if I "pass" because I go out every day whether it be work or elsewhere dressed as the woman I know I am. This is kind of just an update on my appearance after almost two months on hormones and wondering what people think. My 3DS can no longer detect my face as male so I think I am going in the right direction. :D
Please only give me constructive feedback and no empty compliments please. :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FAthena_5-18-14_zpsc231a099.jpg&hash=612b2f4c9853e8b078f6f1af68a1b51cd0a5d0f2)
UPDATE:
Thought I would add this picture as a comparison. This is what I looked like a year before hormones.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm115%2FAthena_Lynn_Harting%2FDevon_zps587c062c.jpg&hash=987a39c12f6ba52c0850f8ed042a9196a321ac7e)
As a woman, how old does my face look? I wont be offended if the age is higher than what I really am. I'm just really curious. I'm 22 BTW.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on May 19, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Post by: muffinpants on May 19, 2014, 06:42:23 PM
Quote from: Athena on May 19, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
As a woman, how old does my face look? I wont be offended if the age is higher than what I really am. I'm just really curious. I'm 22 BTW.
Hmm.. I'm not too good with age, but I'd say you look around your age... maybe a bit older, not over 27 though. I think it is just the picture/angle, really. Perhaps the haircut?? (which is totally cute, btw!)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 06:46:14 PM
Quote from: Athena on May 19, 2014, 06:38:37 PM
As a woman, how old does my face look? I wont be offended if the age is higher than what I really am. I'm just really curious. I'm 22 BTW.
You look your age, Athena. Of course, hair and style really inform your perceived age just as much as your features, so you might want to play around with those things. 22 is the age for doing that, anyway! Experiment, and have some fun.
Cheers,
Teg
P.S. I'd have guessed 25 at the oldest, FYI.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:41:40 PM
Quote from: Handy on May 15, 2014, 12:44:59 AM
so here I am, finally working up the courage to post here.
Sadly I only have 'boy mode' pics; I'm not *completely* 'out' yet
Also I apologize for the FLCL eyebrows; I like to think one day when I can actually get them waxed though that I'll just have that much more material to work with XD
This is a greasy, bathroom selfie from 15 minutes ago
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fj8noyo.jpg&hash=13fe0b651e767da558dfd5375c5e249a31f0ed3d)
This is me when the lighting is a bit better and I haven't spent the entire day on the computer :laugh:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2Fjkcdph.jpg&hash=53d5dd613151271497e1f77e90049727d64bccef)
I realize I have *incredibly* sunken cheeks; you may be shocked to know that HRT has FILLED THEM OUT, that's right, that is FULLER than they once were! Granted, I've always been very underweight, but pre-HRT I was a veritable living skeleton. Hopefully though the cheek-filling trend will continue lol; my biggest concerns are my chin, nose, and cheeks (which I can do little for other than wait). I'm very fortunate to be one of those thin-framed, hairless types (could never grow a beard/mustache) , so obviously my face is my only real concern.
Feel free to be completely honest with me; I'm a sensitive soul but I'm also realistic, and in reality I appreciate all constructive criticism.
The two things I'm most often compared to: Marilyn Manson (*gag*) or a horse, so rest assured I've developed a thick skin.
You have really great bone structure. It will only be a matter of time before you fill out proportionately. You carry a lot of female qualities about yourself as it stands now. Like many of the others members have suggested some maintenance on hair and eyebrow waxing will sure do you justice. As a little side note, bangs always seems to help us girls out as it hides some of our man-like features until we soften within time. Overall, you look GREAT!!! I'm always excited to follow each girl and guy transition.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:44:46 PM
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:44:46 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 16, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
I took a few yesterday. Do I pass? Blunt honesty would be appreciated. In the third one my face isn't clear but I just wanted to get a shot of my body (and unfortunately I can only take full body shots on my webcam).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWC1mYrK.jpg&hash=7610bed57b571a61fad10ba7a96a7176d44ad866)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyxS71ba.jpg&hash=fa8f76daa3e2b0bd83995387768f37bf1a09546b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWTjYEuv.jpg&hash=72f024685ca7ba4327a0482e22e0083c1b33b63a)
Here's one I took a while ago for a full body shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFXC4Emc.jpg&hash=731e48085c714e3aabd165fe249fae432d3db1fd)
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't even take a second glance. I'd say you pass quite nicely :)
Riversong -
Your feminine shape definitely advocates a great starting point to transitioning. One thing to keep in mind is to be conscious of your proportions and weight as you begin HRT. Many girls of color like myself experience mass amounts of weight gain due to our insatiable appetites as we add hormones to our bodies. I think you will do exceptionally well once you begin HRT. How long do you have left before you begin?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:46:12 PM
Post by: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:46:12 PM
Quote from: Paula on May 15, 2014, 05:24:08 AM
First of all, you girls are looking so gorgeous! Here are some pictures I just recently took this past week. Do they look passable? Thanks for your honest opinion!
Disclaimer: pre-hrt
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F14n0llx.jpg&hash=3842a940bb482b2b6aa28d54064608d780b38520)
-
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F24c6z3o.jpg&hash=6d5e45f3c1f85f4d22fff9f73668eeb08517e4d2)
Girl!!!
Your eyes are to DIE for! Personally I believe eyes are a major attractive asset to any woman. I believe you will do an amazing job once you begin HRT. How long do you have before you start?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 19, 2014, 10:31:06 PM
Ooh ooh! Do me, Felicity! Lol
:P,
Teg
:P,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 16, 2014, 06:02:33 PM
I took a few yesterday. Do I pass? Blunt honesty would be appreciated. In the third one my face isn't clear but I just wanted to get a shot of my body (and unfortunately I can only take full body shots on my webcam).
Here's one I took a while ago for a full body shot.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFXC4Emc.jpg&hash=731e48085c714e3aabd165fe249fae432d3db1fd)
If I saw you on the street I wouldn't even take a second glance. I'd say you pass quite nicely :)
Hi Riversong,
Somehow I had missed this post, but the full body shot is good and I don't see any problems passing from a physical perspective. Take Felicity's advice, she seems to be on top of it in terms of potential hormonally driven weight problems for your ethnicity. I do believe that there are makeup tricks that women of color use to minimizing a broad nose statement, you might want to look into that hon, keep up the good work you're doing fine!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 20, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 20, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
Quote from: Felicity on May 19, 2014, 09:44:46 PM
Riversong -
Your feminine shape definitely advocates a great starting point to transitioning. One thing to keep in mind is to be conscious of your proportions and weight as you begin HRT. Many girls of color like myself experience mass amounts of weight gain due to our insatiable appetites as we add hormones to our bodies. I think you will do exceptionally well once you begin HRT. How long do you have left before you begin?
Quote from: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 10:24:09 AM
Hi Riversong,
Somehow I had missed this post, but the full body shot is good and I don't see any problems passing from a physical perspective. Take Felicity's advice, she seems to be on top of it in terms of potential hormonally driven weight problems for your ethnicity. I do believe that there are makeup tricks that women of color use to minimizing a broad nose statement, you might want to look into that hon, keep up the good work you're doing fine!
Thank you both for the advice! I should be starting hormones some time within the next few months. My therapist has said that she'll be happy to give an endocrinologist a letter of approval, so now I just need to find an endocrinologist who will accept me as a patient. I've considered the issue of weight gain induced by hormones. Normally I'm actually quite active, but due to my recent depression I haven't been as active as I usually am. Hopefully I can get back to my old ways after hormones have started.
With my nose, yea, it's something that I've been self conscious about for some time. Fortunately though, I think that's less of a masculine/feminine thing, and more of an attractiveness thing. I.e. I feel that it makes me less attractive, but I don't think it'll make me look less feminine. I'm optimistic that hormones will help it look better though :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
Post by: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
Quote from: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 01:43:31 PM
I just want to start with saying that I am sorry for attacking the moderators of this board.
I got frustrated with the rules because hormones and their dosages were a very worrisome topic to me in the past. The reason for this was that I was taking hormones I bought off the internet, and not seeing an actual doctor. I have since stopped taking the hormones and decided that I am going to do it the right way this time starting with returning to therapy.
This site is amazing for dealing with problems, and I am thankful for it being here.
Anywhoo... back on topic.
I guess I could say I am practically pre-HRT. Took Sprio and E for a month in February but now I am just taking Dutasteride for hair loss while I do the therapy and start hormones in the next few months.So.... How do I look? Be honest. I got some really tough skin.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCPJ9ZmD.jpg&hash=fe84eeb248e737fd9a836e3d5a77ad23699fb0de) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCI0RoWs.jpg&hash=2c1cfa4230468b2dbb8491733af091a8fe3e64a0)
(and I just like this picture because somehow I created cleavage lol)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXj9lTNL.jpg&hash=24a67e04ac323dcb7ef6c09a9b65a0230664cc87)
Nice face and smile, good cheekbones, you need to work on those bushy eyebrows a bit but overall you're going to do great!
Btw - good apology and glad you're doing it the right way, I did it the wrong way once and got a huge clot (DVT) that could have killed me. We don't need to live dangerously, I was stupid only once and lived to tell about it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
Post by: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
Quote from: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 01:55:00 PM
Nice face and smile, good cheekbones, you need to work on those bushy eyebrows a bit but overall you're going to do great!
Thanks! You should have seen those eyebrows about 2 hours ago! I didn't want to take too much off because when I wake up tomorrow it's back to "guy mode" for a bit. Thinking I will go to a salon in a couple of weeks and have a professional shape them.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 02:02:18 PM
Quote from: FilaFord on May 20, 2014, 02:00:24 PM
Thanks! You should have seen those eyebrows about 2 hours ago! I didn't want to take too much off because when I wake up tomorrow it's back to "guy mode" for a bit. Thinking I will go to a salon in a couple of weeks and have a professional shape them.
Good plan! At least you have eyebrows to work with, I got slighted with blonde sketchy brows.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on May 20, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Post by: belfast girl on May 20, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Hi there,
I had an account with one or two posts previously, but it seems to be gone. Or I didn't remember the username properly. One of the two.
Either way, I'll introduce myself - I'm 28, I'm from Belfast in Northern Ireland, and I'd like your opinions please!
Picture the first - age 27, about a year ago:
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/s720x720/643903_10151049512737861_1721537807_n.jpg)
Picture the second - age 28, after about 7.5 months of hormones:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10402617_10153064284299237_3307052964456029571_n.jpg)
I had an account with one or two posts previously, but it seems to be gone. Or I didn't remember the username properly. One of the two.
Either way, I'll introduce myself - I'm 28, I'm from Belfast in Northern Ireland, and I'd like your opinions please!
Picture the first - age 27, about a year ago:
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/s720x720/643903_10151049512737861_1721537807_n.jpg)
Picture the second - age 28, after about 7.5 months of hormones:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10402617_10153064284299237_3307052964456029571_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 20, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 20, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
Hey there, Belfast.
It looks like you're feminizing nicely. Something tells me you're nearly at a point at which the changes are going to go into overdrive. If you're not out yet, it might be time to start making plans. ;)
Cheers,
Teg
P.S. It might also be time to start shopping around for more feminine frames. :)
It looks like you're feminizing nicely. Something tells me you're nearly at a point at which the changes are going to go into overdrive. If you're not out yet, it might be time to start making plans. ;)
Cheers,
Teg
P.S. It might also be time to start shopping around for more feminine frames. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 20, 2014, 12:19:38 PM
Thank you both for the advice! I should be starting hormones some time within the next few months. My therapist has said that she'll be happy to give an endocrinologist a letter of approval, so now I just need to find an endocrinologist who will accept me as a patient. I've considered the issue of weight gain induced by hormones. Normally I'm actually quite active, but due to my recent depression I haven't been as active as I usually am. Hopefully I can get back to my old ways after hormones have started.
With my nose, yea, it's something that I've been self conscious about for some time. Fortunately though, I think that's less of a masculine/feminine thing, and more of an attractiveness thing. I.e. I feel that it makes me less attractive, but I don't think it'll make me look less feminine. I'm optimistic that hormones will help it look better though :)
I don't intend to make a big deal about your nose honey, we all have features that are ethnically driven, some of mine are not very flattering. I just wanted to make the point that there are some great makeup tutorials as well as a lot of really helpful techs at makeup kiosks in the shopping malls that have some great tips on how to minimize on some things and maximize on our real assets, be sure and look into it. I sure as hell wouldn't want you to have a complex about anything I've said, just trying to be helpful and give positive input.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on May 21, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Post by: belfast girl on May 21, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 20, 2014, 04:21:51 PM
Hey there, Belfast.
It looks like you're feminizing nicely. Something tells me you're nearly at a point at which the changes are going to go into overdrive. If you're not out yet, it might be time to start making plans. ;)
Cheers,
Teg
P.S. It might also be time to start shopping around for more feminine frames. :)
That sounds promising if a mix between exciting and slightly terrifying! I'm out to most of my friends and have been for about a year now, and they've all been wonderful and accepting, and for the most part very supportive. Not out to family or people in work though, and people in work have been highly transphobic whenever anything even vaguely related to trans issues comes up. Thankfully I'm leaving in a couple of months to go back to uni so if I can manage to hold off until then it should be okay!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 21, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 21, 2014, 04:56:55 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on May 21, 2014, 11:47:12 AM
That sounds promising if a mix between exciting and slightly terrifying! I'm out to most of my friends and have been for about a year now, and they've all been wonderful and accepting, and for the most part very supportive. Not out to family or people in work though, and people in work have been highly transphobic whenever anything even vaguely related to trans issues comes up. Thankfully I'm leaving in a couple of months to go back to uni so if I can manage to hold off until then it should be okay!
You'll be just fine. A couple more months ought to be totally do-able.
Good luck.
Cheers,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 21, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 21, 2014, 05:02:09 PM
Quote from: Shantel on May 20, 2014, 06:59:56 PM
I don't intend to make a big deal about your nose honey, we all have features that are ethnically driven, some of mine are not very flattering. I just wanted to make the point that there are some great makeup tutorials as well as a lot of really helpful techs at makeup kiosks in the shopping malls that have some great tips on how to minimize on some things and maximize on our real assets, be sure and look into it. I sure as hell wouldn't want you to have a complex about anything I've said, just trying to be helpful and give positive input.
Oh no, it's ok, I didn't take it that way. Your feedback was quite helpful, thank you :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 21, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 21, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on May 20, 2014, 04:09:19 PM
Hi there,
I had an account with one or two posts previously, but it seems to be gone. Or I didn't remember the username properly. One of the two.
Either way, I'll introduce myself - I'm 28, I'm from Belfast in Northern Ireland, and I'd like your opinions please!
Picture the first - age 27, about a year ago:
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t1.0-9/s720x720/643903_10151049512737861_1721537807_n.jpg)
Picture the second - age 28, after about 7.5 months of hormones:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-frc3/t1.0-9/10402617_10153064284299237_3307052964456029571_n.jpg)
With a shave and an eyebrow trim I think you'll be 100% passable :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Sorry if I am a bit narcissistic and post here a lot asking for opinions...but I'm not yet full time and my appearance is bothering me a lot. I don't know if I can pass looking the way I am right now. Please, sincere opinions, as always...Can I pass or am I still too far from it?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F119.jpg&hash=b0866c9fb1e7d27754f140e293a9e17472221229)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F120.jpg&hash=17d11846eeac63e00d3d22f0c25f50e9ef6491dc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F121.jpg&hash=b3c9f8ec7a39a12b3da90eaf96199103e854f717)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F122.jpg&hash=4ee54f1c6f24ed043f20bc6307260d1c80a3a424)
Thank you and kisses for you all! =)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F119.jpg&hash=b0866c9fb1e7d27754f140e293a9e17472221229)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F120.jpg&hash=17d11846eeac63e00d3d22f0c25f50e9ef6491dc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F121.jpg&hash=b3c9f8ec7a39a12b3da90eaf96199103e854f717)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F122.jpg&hash=4ee54f1c6f24ed043f20bc6307260d1c80a3a424)
Thank you and kisses for you all! =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 21, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 21, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Sorry if I am a bit narcissistic and post here a lot asking for opinions...but I'm not yet full time and my appearance is bothering me a lot. I don't know if I can pass looking the way I am right now. Please, sincere opinions, as always...Can I pass or am I still too far from it?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F119.jpg&hash=b0866c9fb1e7d27754f140e293a9e17472221229)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F120.jpg&hash=17d11846eeac63e00d3d22f0c25f50e9ef6491dc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F121.jpg&hash=b3c9f8ec7a39a12b3da90eaf96199103e854f717)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F122.jpg&hash=4ee54f1c6f24ed043f20bc6307260d1c80a3a424)
Thank you and kisses for you all! =)
Truth? You look fine. You have come a really long way so absolute kudos.
Tips! I would ditch the liner on the lower lid completely. Just put a bit of mascara down there...light touch. Aldo, love the brown, fab for day time wear but you may consider a bit more mascara on the upper set and even falsies to really pop. I'd also easy does it on the heavy shadow..make sure you blend well!
Then the hair...I feel if you really need a wig you would do best to invest in a top of the line one. Hair plays such s role in how people look, real or fake. So that if you're going to be wearing it everyday you may consider spending 1k plus.
Other than that you're doing well, IMO. You look best when you smile htw!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on May 21, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Post by: Chic on May 21, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 09:38:14 PM
Sorry if I am a bit narcissistic and post here a lot asking for opinions...but I'm not yet full time and my appearance is bothering me a lot. I don't know if I can pass looking the way I am right now. Please, sincere opinions, as always...Can I pass or am I still too far from it?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F119.jpg&hash=b0866c9fb1e7d27754f140e293a9e17472221229)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F120.jpg&hash=17d11846eeac63e00d3d22f0c25f50e9ef6491dc)
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Thank you and kisses for you all! =)
You can pass, but I'd cool it with the makeup...it's a bit much and might draw attention to you. Personally it looks like the kind of makeup someone would wear if they're really not confident about passing, and that in itself would draw suspicion to the fact of them being trans. But I know you have that confidence in you so you don't need all that makeup! Be light, be realistic.
Speaking of realistic, I'd suggest not going full time until you find a highly realistic/real hair wig. There aren't a lot of non-event related reasons to wear a wig and that's gonna turn heads. People who are bald by age or by illness usually get high quality wigs for long-term use. They're realistic and people don't even notice that they're wigs. However, from the pictures, your wig is clearly noticeable as such. It could potentially instantly out you, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Quote from: Abbyxo on May 21, 2014, 09:48:13 PM
Truth? You look fine. You have come a really long way so absolute kudos.
Tips! I would ditch the liner on the lower lid completely. Just put a bit of mascara down there...light touch. Aldo, love the brown, fab for day time wear but you may consider a bit more mascara on the upper set and even falsies to really pop. I'd also easy does it on the heavy shadow..make sure you blend well!
Then the hair...I feel if you really need a wig you would do best to invest in a top of the line one. Hair plays such s role in how people look, real or fake. So that if you're going to be wearing it everyday you may consider spending 1k plus.
Other than that you're doing well, IMO. You look best when you smile htw!
Quote from: Chic on May 21, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
You can pass, but I'd cool it with the makeup...it's a bit much and might draw attention to you. Personally it looks like the kind of makeup someone would wear if they're really not confident about passing, and that in itself would draw suspicion to the fact of them being trans. But I know you have that confidence in you so you don't need all that makeup! Be light, be realistic.
Speaking of realistic, I'd suggest not going full time until you find a highly realistic/real hair wig. There aren't a lot of non-event related reasons to wear a wig and that's gonna turn heads. People who are bald by age or by illness usually get high quality wigs for long-term use. They're realistic and people don't even notice that they're wigs. However, from the pictures, your wig is clearly noticeable as such. It could potentially instantly out you, unfortunately.
Thanks Abbyxo and Chic =)
Indeed make up is not still quite my thing yet :p I am still learning to set it up, but you're right...perhaps something softer and lighter should help not drawing too much attention. Perhaps pnly eyeliner and no lipstick and eyeshadow should be fine.
About the hair =( Actually my previous wig was even worse...this one looks a lot like my natural hair...my naturai hair is now almost as long as the wig, but it is still too short on the front and can't give me a feminine appearance no matter what I do. I think that in a few months I might achieve a fuller hairline again...so I wouldn't like to invest a lot on a wig I would have to throw away...and, to worsen things, I am short on money right now :p I think I'll have to try going out with this one or my previous one...could I do something to improve this wig into a better appaearance? :p
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 21, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
Post by: jussmoi4nao on May 21, 2014, 10:26:57 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
Thanks Abbyxo and Chic =)
Indeed make up is not still quite my thing yet :p I am still learning to set it up, but you're right...perhaps something softer and lighter should help not drawing too much attention. Perhaps pnly eyeliner and no lipstick and eyeshadow should be fine.
About the hair =( Actually my previous wig was even worse...this one looks a lot like my natural hair...my naturai hair is now almost as long as the wig, but it is still too short on the front and can't give me a feminine appearance no matter what I do. I think that in a few months I might achieve a fuller hairline again...so I wouldn't like to invest a lot on a wig I would have to throw away...and, to worsen things, I am short on money right now :p I think I'll have to try going out with this one or my previous one...could I do something to improve this wig into a better appaearance? :p
Not necessarily. I would say it's more about choosing the right colors and places of application, as well as proper application and blending would do wonders for you..makeup just takes time to earn, you'll get there!
As for the wig, your best bet is probably to work with its natural parting if you don't feel you can upgrade. I don't really know tbh maybe another user who wears wigs regularly can help better, here.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Hmmm is this wig better? I had this wig for a long time, but I was unsecure about it...I don't know if I look weel as a blondie. I think it looks more natural...but at the same time the color bothers me :p I really don't know what to think about this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F127.jpg&hash=9d37e607bca04092ed094a5711d6d17efc8ad3ad)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F127.jpg&hash=9d37e607bca04092ed094a5711d6d17efc8ad3ad)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on May 22, 2014, 04:35:15 AM
Post by: belfast girl on May 22, 2014, 04:35:15 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 21, 2014, 05:03:19 PM
With a shave and an eyebrow trim I think you'll be 100% passable :)
That's very kind of you to say, but I know I'm not. In any case, I have a quite prominent adam's apple (when I was younger a girl came up to me and told me that she liked it - presumably she thought this would be a compliment, but I didn't really take it that way...) that I am nowhere near being able to afford to do anything about.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on May 22, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
Post by: E-Brennan on May 22, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Hmmm is this wig better? I had this wig for a long time, but I was unsecure about it...I don't know if I look weel as a blondie. I think it looks more natural...but at the same time the color bothers me :p I really don't know what to think about this one.
Much more natural-looking.
BTW, in your earlier photos, you have great posture in the head and body shots.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 05:56:45 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 05:56:45 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Hmmm is this wig better? I had this wig for a long time, but I was unsecure about it...I don't know if I look weel as a blondie. I think it looks more natural...but at the same time the color bothers me :p I really don't know what to think about this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F127.jpg&hash=9d37e607bca04092ed094a5711d6d17efc8ad3ad)
The blond works for you. That's my two cents.
Nice smile, by the way.
Cheers,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 07:04:12 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 07:04:12 PM
Quote from: __________ on May 22, 2014, 04:50:22 PM
Much more natural-looking.
BTW, in your earlier photos, you have great posture in the head and body shots.
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 05:56:45 PM
The blond works for you. That's my two cents.
Nice smile, by the way.
Cheers,
Teg
_______ and Teg,
Thank you for your kind words ^^
I think I'll stick with the blondie one then =) To tell the truth, I thought this one was the least natural-looking wig among my wigs...but I trust you people. I hope you are right ^^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 07:51:23 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 07:51:23 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:16:34 PM
About the hair =( Actually my previous wig was even worse...this one looks a lot like my natural hair...my naturai hair is now almost as long as the wig, but it is still too short on the front and can't give me a feminine appearance no matter what I do. I think that in a few months I might achieve a fuller hairline again...so I wouldn't like to invest a lot on a wig I would have to throw away...and, to worsen things, I am short on money right now :p I think I'll have to try going out with this one or my previous one...could I do something to improve this wig into a better appaearance? :p
Nat,
It might not be something you feel like doing, but why don't you let us see your natural hair if it's as long as you say?
By the way, I just had another look and while I still like the blond wig (you look great as a brunette, too. I especially like your avatar), it does need to be brushed out. You probably already knew that, though.
Cheers,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 08:22:35 PM
Teg,
My natural hair is getting longer. I don't have it cut since January 2013, so almost one year and a half running away from scissors ^^
But I had a receding hairline and, although it is slowly coming back since I started HRT, I still have almost no hair on the temples and that makes my hairline scream "male". It is quite long behind and, if it wasn't for the front, I am quite sure I could have it styled into a feminine haircut.
My grandmother keeps telling me that, right now, my hair is longer than the hair of many women out there.
It is quite curly, but I think that the weight of the hair should allow it to get a bit less curly as it grows...so, if longer and with no receding hairline, I think that my hair would resemble the one on the brunette wig.
But here it is (I was in boy mode here...boy clothes and no makeup :p):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F164.jpg&hash=9bf1c235b4708fe4fc8fc32e870dbe42074ffc06)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F165.jpg&hash=a9f9843981c26a487ed125954c2923b17f871c73)
Hair makes a huge difference on my case :p I just can't even resemble a woman with this hair =(
My natural hair is getting longer. I don't have it cut since January 2013, so almost one year and a half running away from scissors ^^
But I had a receding hairline and, although it is slowly coming back since I started HRT, I still have almost no hair on the temples and that makes my hairline scream "male". It is quite long behind and, if it wasn't for the front, I am quite sure I could have it styled into a feminine haircut.
My grandmother keeps telling me that, right now, my hair is longer than the hair of many women out there.
It is quite curly, but I think that the weight of the hair should allow it to get a bit less curly as it grows...so, if longer and with no receding hairline, I think that my hair would resemble the one on the brunette wig.
But here it is (I was in boy mode here...boy clothes and no makeup :p):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F164.jpg&hash=9bf1c235b4708fe4fc8fc32e870dbe42074ffc06)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F165.jpg&hash=a9f9843981c26a487ed125954c2923b17f871c73)
Hair makes a huge difference on my case :p I just can't even resemble a woman with this hair =(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 22, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 22, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 09:38:14 PMAfter all this talk of wigs and such, I have to say I think you'll have very little issue passing besides the wig/hair issue. The only thing I can see that's strictly masculine is the brow ridge. But in my opinion you're very pretty. If you just maintain that confidence that's visible in your pics then I think you'll do just fine :-)
Sorry if I am a bit narcissistic and post here a lot asking for opinions...but I'm not yet full time and my appearance is bothering me a lot. I don't know if I can pass looking the way I am right now. Please, sincere opinions, as always...Can I pass or am I still too far from it?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F119.jpg&hash=b0866c9fb1e7d27754f140e293a9e17472221229)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F120.jpg&hash=17d11846eeac63e00d3d22f0c25f50e9ef6491dc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F121.jpg&hash=b3c9f8ec7a39a12b3da90eaf96199103e854f717)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F122.jpg&hash=4ee54f1c6f24ed043f20bc6307260d1c80a3a424)
Thank you and kisses for you all! =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 08:34:15 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 08:34:15 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 08:22:35 PMNat,
Teg,
My natural hair is getting longer. I don't have it cut since January 2013, so almost one year and a half running away from scissors ^^
But I had a receding hairline and, although it is slowly coming back since I started HRT, I still have almost no hair on the temples and that makes my hairline scream "male". It is quite long behind and, if it wasn't for the front, I am quite sure I could have it styled into a feminine haircut.
My grandmother keeps telling me that, right now, my hair is longer than the hair of many women out there.
It is quite curly, but I think that the weight of the hair should allow it to get a bit less curly as it grows...so, if longer and with no receding hairline, I think that my hair would resemble the one on the brunette wig.
But here it is (I was in boy mode here...boy clothes and no makeup :p):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F164.jpg&hash=9bf1c235b4708fe4fc8fc32e870dbe42074ffc06)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2560%2F165.jpg&hash=a9f9843981c26a487ed125954c2923b17f871c73)
Hair makes a huge difference on my case :p I just can't even resemble a woman with this hair =(
Okay, I totally see your point about the hair. The sides are grown in quite nicely, but the front needs more time. Especially having seen your natural hair, I'm going to change my vote to brunette. The blond looks nice, but I keep thinking that the way your hair looks in your avatar really suits your face.
And, no lie, Nat- outside of the hair situation, your boy mode is a total fail. ;)
Hugs,
Teg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 22, 2014, 09:09:37 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 22, 2014, 08:30:10 PM
After all this talk of wigs and such, I have to say I think you'll have very little issue passing besides the wig/hair issue. The only thing I can see that's strictly masculine is the brow ridge. But in my opinion you're very pretty. If you just maintain that confidence that's visible in your pics then I think you'll do just fine :-)
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on May 22, 2014, 08:34:15 PM
Nat,
Okay, I totally see your point about the hair. The sides are grown in quite nicely, but the front needs more time. Especially having seen your natural hair, I'm going to change my vote to brunette. The blond looks nice, but I keep thinking that the way your hair looks in your avatar really suits your face.
And, no lie, Nat- outside of the hair situation, your boy mode is a total fail. ;)
Hugs,
Teg
Riversong,
Thank you ^^ I do have plans of having some FFS on the future, but I don't want to wait until there to start going out as myself...but going back to the wig subject :p my first brunette wig (the one on my avatar) left my brow too much exposed...so I decided to purchase a new one with more hair to cover it hoping to hide better my forehead and brow. I hope I can do fine ^^ on the few times I went out as myself, I was amazed about people telling me I am looking fine. Until now I have problems to believe in that :p
Teg,
Thank you too =) Your words gave me a boost of self-esteem. Since the beginning I was wishing to reach the male fail phase. Damn hair, if it wasn't for it I would already be there everyday ^^
Well...until my hair doesn't come back...and I think it will take at least 6 months or more until it gets back (I hope it keeps getting back), I'll stick with a wig...perhaps a hairstylist can help me making it look more realistic...perhaps a trim here and there...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HelloKitty on May 22, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
Post by: HelloKitty on May 22, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
Just wondering if my face is a pass or is getting there?
I dont have a photobucket account yet so will come back here and insert pics
I dont have a photobucket account yet so will come back here and insert pics
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HoneyStrums on May 22, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Post by: HoneyStrums on May 22, 2014, 09:21:17 PM
Quote from: HelloKitty on May 22, 2014, 09:11:04 PM
Just wondering if my face is a pass or is getting there?
I dont have a photobucket account yet so will come back here and insert pics
If the face in your avi is yours its a defo pass
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HelloKitty on May 23, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
Post by: HelloKitty on May 23, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
Aww thanks ButterflyVickster! *hugs*
Yeah thats me in my Avi pic.
Was 2 or 3 days ago I took it so its up to date lol
Yeah thats me in my Avi pic.
Was 2 or 3 days ago I took it so its up to date lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on May 23, 2014, 08:14:30 AM
Post by: V M on May 23, 2014, 08:14:30 AM
Yup, you looks a girl to me
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on May 23, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Post by: FilaFord on May 23, 2014, 03:26:48 PM
Quote from: HelloKitty on May 23, 2014, 07:52:34 AM
Aww thanks ButterflyVickster! *hugs*
Yeah thats me in my Avi pic.
Was 2 or 3 days ago I took it so its up to date lol
Definitely passing :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 23, 2014, 03:29:26 PM
Post by: barbie on May 23, 2014, 03:29:26 PM
Quote from: Natalia on May 21, 2014, 10:54:31 PM
Hmmm is this wig better? I had this wig for a long time, but I was unsecure about it...I don't know if I look weel as a blondie. I think it looks more natural...but at the same time the color bothers me :p I really don't know what to think about this one.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.image-share.com%2Fupload%2F2559%2F127.jpg&hash=9d37e607bca04092ed094a5711d6d17efc8ad3ad)
Yes. Pink lipstick is far better, and here most girls wear pink.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on May 23, 2014, 04:07:37 PM
Post by: Natalia on May 23, 2014, 04:07:37 PM
Thanks Barbie.
Curiously, I wasn't wearing any lipstick XD but I also love pink lipsticks =)
Curiously, I wasn't wearing any lipstick XD but I also love pink lipsticks =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 12:16:35 AM
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 12:16:35 AM
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m76z1geq4T1ratf4io1_500.jpg)
I have gotten a tad bit chunky since this, everyone says my cheeks and hips are a giveaway...
If anyone has tips PLEASE LET ME KNOW!~ ;D
I have gotten a tad bit chunky since this, everyone says my cheeks and hips are a giveaway...
If anyone has tips PLEASE LET ME KNOW!~ ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on May 24, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
Post by: Umiko on May 24, 2014, 12:19:35 AM
i honestly think i have no absolute chance to pass xD geez thanx guys xD hahaha!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 24, 2014, 12:27:31 AM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on May 24, 2014, 12:27:31 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
Hello
I am a new member to this website.
I have been very bad recently about what and who I am. I have been aware if my trans feelings since between ages 11 and 12, but I have only felt the need to act since age 18, July 2013.
I know that I am a freak, that I am wrong in the head.
I know that the kinder thing for me to do is try to forget all of this.
Anyway, I thought that I might feel better if I send this message.
I wish to know if I could we hope to pass as female, or would I be better off not trying.
I'll try to upload a picture or better reference.
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10308557_639441602802481_3243764327216080630_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/1920051_639441566135818_1034586149988059157_n.jpg)
For better reference, I am 5'9" tall and weight 135lbs. I wear small everything and have size 11 shoes. I have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
Penguin, first off you are neither a freak nor wrong in the head.
Second, you are very young and have extremely transition-friendly features.
Size small everything, great hair, and 135 lbs? Yeah, you'll be fine. Don't worry too much about the feet; they're manageable.
Just don't beat yourself up, okay, P?
You're among friends here. Relax and try to make yourself at home. It's a walk, not a sprint, and if you have a destination in mind, then baby steps will get you there.
Chin up, girl. You'll pass if that is your ultimate goal. But don't race to get there; you have time to figure things out along the way.
Just stay positive, and do your best to be kind to yourself. Take care. Reach out if you need help, guidance, or feel alone.
Cheers,
Tegan
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on May 24, 2014, 12:32:33 AM
Post by: Megan Joanne on May 24, 2014, 12:32:33 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
Hello
I am a new member to this website.
I have been very bad recently about what and who I am. I have been aware if my trans feelings since between ages 11 and 12, but I have only felt the need to act since age 18, July 2013.
I know that I am a freak, that I am wrong in the head.
I know that the kinder thing for me to do is try to forget all of this.
Anyway, I thought that I might feel better if I send this message.
I wish to know if I could we hope to pass as female, or would I be better off not trying.
I'll try to upload a picture or better reference.
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10308557_639441602802481_3243764327216080630_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/1920051_639441566135818_1034586149988059157_n.jpg)
For better reference, I am 5'9" tall and weight 135lbs. I wear small everything and have size 11 shoes. I have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
About my height and weight, same foot size. As you are now in your pics, ignoring what you are wearing, and your hair style, you got facial features that look to go either way. And that's good, very neutral. I'm sure hormones will do you nicely.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 24, 2014, 05:39:18 AM
Post by: barbie on May 24, 2014, 05:39:18 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
Hello
I am a new member to this website.
I have been very bad recently about what and who I am. I have been aware if my trans feelings since between ages 11 and 12, but I have only felt the need to act since age 18, July 2013.
I know that I am a freak, that I am wrong in the head.
I know that the kinder thing for me to do is try to forget all of this.
Anyway, I thought that I might feel better if I send this message.
I wish to know if I could we hope to pass as female, or would I be better off not trying.
I'll try to upload a picture or better reference.
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10308557_639441602802481_3243764327216080630_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/1920051_639441566135818_1034586149988059157_n.jpg)
For better reference, I am 5'9" tall and weight 135lbs. I wear small everything and have size 11 shoes. I have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
You have a great potential to be presented as a lovely girl. Just start wearing some makeup.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 05:52:29 AM
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 05:52:29 AM
Hey, girls! Okay, so this is my first post but I admit I have been lurking for a while. So, I wanted to transition when I was a teenager but I let my folks kinda mess things up for me. They became really abusive, kicked me out and I just lost the confidence to do it. A few months ago though I read the "transitioning in your 30's" thread that Adabelle made and it made me feel like maybe it's not too late. I turn 30 in July but I'm starting HRT on Monday (26th of May). No matter how well I "pass" or not I'm still going to transition all the way. However I am kinda curious about how successful my transition will be. I'm not sure how much hormones can do at my age or how much FFS I'll "need" (if any)? So, I'm just wondering what you girls think? I'm 5'9", 150 lbs (but I'm losing weight fast), size 10 feet (women's), smallish hands and although I'm wearing a wig in my photos I have a full head of hair. So... what's the damage?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-14-170726_zps63340b4f.jpg&hash=0ae5903816ee3368f6aa0f01625b9c587627d0bf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-18-044541_zps909b6243.jpg&hash=2a084f72507ff814d5ebd7404d8680a1e3adf155)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-23-173810_zpsa3f31564.jpg&hash=bfb82af7c7a23d8d50a41d469265230e52e3c0d8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-14-170726_zps63340b4f.jpg&hash=0ae5903816ee3368f6aa0f01625b9c587627d0bf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-18-044541_zps909b6243.jpg&hash=2a084f72507ff814d5ebd7404d8680a1e3adf155)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-23-173810_zpsa3f31564.jpg&hash=bfb82af7c7a23d8d50a41d469265230e52e3c0d8)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 06:14:54 AM
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 06:14:54 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PM
Hello
I am a new member to this website.
I have been very bad recently about what and who I am. I have been aware if my trans feelings since between ages 11 and 12, but I have only felt the need to act since age 18, July 2013.
I know that I am a freak, that I am wrong in the head.
I know that the kinder thing for me to do is try to forget all of this.
Anyway, I thought that I might feel better if I send this message.
I wish to know if I could we hope to pass as female, or would I be better off not trying.
I'll try to upload a picture or better reference.
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10308557_639441602802481_3243764327216080630_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/1920051_639441566135818_1034586149988059157_n.jpg)
For better reference, I am 5'9" tall and weight 135lbs. I wear small everything and have size 11 shoes. I have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
You are definitely not a freak. There's nothing wrong with being trans. I admit to being somewhat biased on this subject but I've come to realise that it doesn't really matter what other people think. You only have one life and one chance to live an authentic existence. Before I came out I thought that everyone would think that I was a freak but almost everyone has been really accepting and understanding. Sometimes people are just transphobic because they've never personally known a trans person but once someone they know and love comes out it realigns their perspective. As for the ones that don't accept you... well... F them! I put off transitioning for so long but now I look back and I roll my eyes at how I ever let their narrow-minded prejudices dictate who I was.
Oh, and by the way, you're beautiful and already look quite feminine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on May 24, 2014, 07:55:38 AM
Post by: E-Brennan on May 24, 2014, 07:55:38 AM
Quote from: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 05:52:29 AM
Hey, girls! Okay, so this is my first post but I admit I have been lurking for a while. So, I wanted to transition when I was a teenager but I let my folks kinda mess things up for me. They became really abusive, kicked me out and I just lost the confidence to do it. A few months ago though I read the "transitioning in your 30's" thread that Adabelle made and it made me feel like maybe it's not too late. I turn 30 in July but I'm starting HRT on Monday (26th of May). No matter how well I "pass" or not I'm still going to transition all the way. However I am kinda curious about how successful my transition will be. I'm not sure how much hormones can do at my age or how much FFS I'll "need" (if any)? So, I'm just wondering what you girls think? I'm 5'9", 150 lbs (but I'm losing weight fast), size 10 feet (women's), smallish hands and although I'm wearing a wig in my photos I have a full head of hair. So... what's the damage?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-14-170726_zps63340b4f.jpg&hash=0ae5903816ee3368f6aa0f01625b9c587627d0bf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-18-044541_zps909b6243.jpg&hash=2a084f72507ff814d5ebd7404d8680a1e3adf155)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-23-173810_zpsa3f31564.jpg&hash=bfb82af7c7a23d8d50a41d469265230e52e3c0d8)
Jessica-Louise, you're a decade younger than me and I wish was starting with even half of your positive attributes - hair, eyes, body size etc.
You are in no way whatsoever too old for this!
HRT will do amazing things for you, I'm sure, and I hope you'll continue to post updates as things progress. Once that settles down - give it time - then think about FFS; let the hormones do their thing, because you may find that FFS isn't something you need in order to pass after a year of estrogen.
I have no doubt that starting from where you are, you'll have no trouble passing 100%. No doubt at all.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 08:32:20 AM
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 08:32:20 AM
You remind me of Misty Day from American Horror Story, I friggin LOVE her!
Quote from: Jessica-Louise on May 24, 2014, 05:52:29 AM
Hey, girls! Okay, so this is my first post but I admit I have been lurking for a while. So, I wanted to transition when I was a teenager but I let my folks kinda mess things up for me. They became really abusive, kicked me out and I just lost the confidence to do it. A few months ago though I read the "transitioning in your 30's" thread that Adabelle made and it made me feel like maybe it's not too late. I turn 30 in July but I'm starting HRT on Monday (26th of May). No matter how well I "pass" or not I'm still going to transition all the way. However I am kinda curious about how successful my transition will be. I'm not sure how much hormones can do at my age or how much FFS I'll "need" (if any)? So, I'm just wondering what you girls think? I'm 5'9", 150 lbs (but I'm losing weight fast), size 10 feet (women's), smallish hands and although I'm wearing a wig in my photos I have a full head of hair. So... what's the damage?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-14-170726_zps63340b4f.jpg&hash=0ae5903816ee3368f6aa0f01625b9c587627d0bf)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-18-044541_zps909b6243.jpg&hash=2a084f72507ff814d5ebd7404d8680a1e3adf155)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1153.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fp503%2FJessica-Louise7%2F2014-05-23-173810_zpsa3f31564.jpg&hash=bfb82af7c7a23d8d50a41d469265230e52e3c0d8)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 08:52:08 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 08:52:08 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PMgreat potential
Hello
I am a new member to this website.
I have been very bad recently about what and who I am. I have been aware if my trans feelings since between ages 11 and 12, but I have only felt the need to act since age 18, July 2013.
I know that I am a freak, that I am wrong in the head.
I know that the kinder thing for me to do is try to forget all of this.
Anyway, I thought that I might feel better if I send this message.
I wish to know if I could we hope to pass as female, or would I be better off not trying.
I'll try to upload a picture or better reference.
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10308557_639441602802481_3243764327216080630_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/1920051_639441566135818_1034586149988059157_n.jpg)
For better reference, I am 5'9" tall and weight 135lbs. I wear small everything and have size 11 shoes. I have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
Post by: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 12:21:50 PM
Okay, I went out for the 2nd time ever dressed as myself and I was absolutely terrified. But before that i had a mini selfie photoshoot lol so heres a few pictures i liked. I wouldnt mind any criticisms also compliments would be nice too! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyURlJVj.jpg&hash=05deaf500d0995b517d2a6c10dce9d36e8957d71) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOXzvEHR.jpg&hash=548f42a0896f9babbd0c5da317248a069f2fc0f6)
And heres one with a smile! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP83AUDp.jpg&hash=23dc5f3750f83e07d14694b4dac972a1b6b08b89)
So how did I do?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyURlJVj.jpg&hash=05deaf500d0995b517d2a6c10dce9d36e8957d71) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOXzvEHR.jpg&hash=548f42a0896f9babbd0c5da317248a069f2fc0f6)
And heres one with a smile! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP83AUDp.jpg&hash=23dc5f3750f83e07d14694b4dac972a1b6b08b89)
So how did I do?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 12:32:41 PM
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 12:21:50 PMit would be better if you can move the phone more away from your face and get some angles to the pictures
Okay, I went out for the 2nd time ever dressed as myself and I was absolutely terrified. But before that i had a mini selfie photoshoot lol so heres a few pictures i liked. I wouldnt mind any criticisms also compliments would be nice too! :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FyURlJVj.jpg&hash=05deaf500d0995b517d2a6c10dce9d36e8957d71) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOXzvEHR.jpg&hash=548f42a0896f9babbd0c5da317248a069f2fc0f6)
And heres one with a smile! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FP83AUDp.jpg&hash=23dc5f3750f83e07d14694b4dac972a1b6b08b89)
So how did I do?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Post by: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 01:01:02 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 12:32:41 PMTrue, I tried doing the other angle of my face but it didnt show much cause my bangs almost kind of cover up my eye. If i did the other side it really wouldnt show much at all.
it would be better if you can move the phone more away from your face and get some angles to the pictures
There is this picture here that doesnt have a phone in my face as much and its a slightly wider angle
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH5CgHLN.jpg&hash=02df92981cf2f7bc154e08cf154dc42fb0427723)
its better but not by much...dat lip bite doe ;P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 01:12:04 PM
looks much better
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 01:13:56 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 24, 2014, 01:13:56 PM
Quote from: ali.yo1991 on May 24, 2014, 01:01:02 PMyou have a nice face
True, I tried doing the other angle of my face but it didnt show much cause my bangs almost kind of cover up my eye. If i did the other side it really wouldnt show much at all.
There is this picture here that doesnt have a phone in my face as much and its a slightly wider angle
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH5CgHLN.jpg&hash=02df92981cf2f7bc154e08cf154dc42fb0427723)
its better but not by much...dat lip bite doe ;P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on May 24, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
Post by: Cassie 4 Ever!!! on May 24, 2014, 09:42:51 PM
This is a, Do I pass in a 2 piece life guarding suit and with no makeup. All the managers at work had to cover the pools due to a shortage so here I am lifeguarding.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto1-1.jpg&hash=2ea3f31c7c760a8924705ce347877fb6d89f3aad) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto4.jpg&hash=572b21513c55358c1c988c9d6efe248129b7d876)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto5-1.jpg&hash=167e8bfc1ba95b30ea159dd096c98b795f2f00cf) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2FPhoto6.jpg&hash=5bfa59bfedc163cf3e55603a423eff60456a1853)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto1-1.jpg&hash=2ea3f31c7c760a8924705ce347877fb6d89f3aad) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto4.jpg&hash=572b21513c55358c1c988c9d6efe248129b7d876)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2Fphoto5-1.jpg&hash=167e8bfc1ba95b30ea159dd096c98b795f2f00cf) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fv519%2Fbeme1248%2FPhoto6.jpg&hash=5bfa59bfedc163cf3e55603a423eff60456a1853)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 11:09:13 PM
Post by: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 11:09:13 PM
._. That awkward moment when I post in the wrong topic. :embarrassed:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 25, 2014, 06:02:14 AM
Post by: barbie on May 25, 2014, 06:02:14 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 24, 2014, 12:39:14 PM
(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-frc3/t31.0-8/10380581_639676882778953_3740291761356929254_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-mia.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash3/t31.0-8/10273258_639676252779016_7346949673179378196_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn2/t1.0-0/10262121_639675966112378_9119247139740158472_n.jpg)
Thank you all for your kind words
I thought it would be the most kind thing for me to do to give you all my most recent photos: the others were from March 2014.
I'm sorry that I seem sad: I just know that I am messed up. I don't mean to say that anyone who is trans is messed up: those words are meant for myself alone
Even if it is crazy, I hope I can take steps towards transition as soon as possible. However, my father is dealing with his blood disorder at the moment, and that must take precedence: I don't deserve the attention. Besides, I know that this stuff would break his heart.
That, and my mother who knows about me just tells me that masculinity appears in various ways, while my brothers are ignorant of it all, and find the idea of ->-bleeped-<-s f_ing gross
I'll try to stay optimistic.
All my love and respect,
Mortified_Penguin
Yes. You have a very healthy body figure, which is good for your possible feminization. Even without HRT, you can do a lot. You may start by wearing some accessories, such as earrings, bangles and hair pins. Next you may wear mascara and lip gross. Step by step change is always better.
barbie~~
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on May 26, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
Post by: RobinGee on May 26, 2014, 05:01:50 AM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on May 23, 2014, 11:57:59 PMI have not had any hormones at all, I simply hope they can do something for me.
Thank you and please reply.
-Mortified_Penguin
I thought you were pre-everything ftm from the pics
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 26, 2014, 05:55:51 AM
Post by: barbie on May 26, 2014, 05:55:51 AM
I am a pre-everything mtf. Just wearing mascara, eyeliner and pink lipstick today.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/14086286788_6d85b2a6e9_o.jpg)
But the hair dresser last week called me 'eonni' (sister), although she saw my face in detail and heard my low voice. I chatted with her for one and half hours while she cared my hair.
I do not care about passing, but could I pass?
barbie~~
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/14086286788_6d85b2a6e9_o.jpg)
But the hair dresser last week called me 'eonni' (sister), although she saw my face in detail and heard my low voice. I chatted with her for one and half hours while she cared my hair.
I do not care about passing, but could I pass?
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Junebug on May 26, 2014, 06:11:12 AM
Post by: Junebug on May 26, 2014, 06:11:12 AM
Quote from: barbie on May 26, 2014, 05:55:51 AMBarbie, I think you totally pass. In fact you remind me of one of my aunties when she was slightly younger. You apply your make-up very well too, and it looks natural on you.
I am a pre-everything mtf. Just wearing mascara, eyeliner and pink lipstick today.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/14086286788_6d85b2a6e9_o.jpg)
But the hair dresser last week called me 'eonni' (sister), although she saw my face in detail and heard my low voice. I chatted with her for one and half hours while she cared my hair.
I do not care about passing, but could I pass?
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 26, 2014, 06:23:09 AM
Post by: barbie on May 26, 2014, 06:23:09 AM
Quote from: Junebug on May 26, 2014, 06:11:12 AM
Barbie, I think you totally pass. In fact you remind me of one of my aunties when she was slightly younger. You apply your make-up very well too, and it looks natural on you.
Thanks! Junebug.
I am rather confident in my body shape, but my face has always been a handicap in presenting as a woman. Still, no plan of HRT. I am also wearing Shiseido sun cream. In summer, I will change to red lipstick.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 26, 2014, 06:55:19 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 26, 2014, 06:55:19 AM
So I'm getting more and more confident in myself and my ability to pass as of late. At this point I'm ready to start going out as a girl. I feel like I look passable, but I just want to make sure it's not just my imagination.
Pre-everything, no makeup. This is technically my boy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlGYQYup.jpg%3F8893&hash=82147cf7710122170dee0e102a39026bbdf473ff)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0iEfQd8.jpg%3F1&hash=9659751cd04aa80f2624747d63924d24b64b9362)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosMMgEZ.jpg&hash=ac174e9662286e92052ae1f742f6621f5c0857ed)
Pre-everything, no makeup. This is technically my boy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlGYQYup.jpg%3F8893&hash=82147cf7710122170dee0e102a39026bbdf473ff)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosMMgEZ.jpg&hash=ac174e9662286e92052ae1f742f6621f5c0857ed)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 26, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 26, 2014, 11:39:01 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 26, 2014, 06:55:19 AMgo for it
So I'm getting more and more confident in myself and my ability to pass as of late. At this point I'm ready to start going out as a girl. I feel like I look passable, but I just want to make sure it's not just my imagination.
Pre-everything, no makeup. This is technically my boy mode.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 26, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 26, 2014, 11:41:40 AM
Quote from: barbie on May 26, 2014, 05:55:51 AMdo fish swim
I am a pre-everything mtf. Just wearing mascara, eyeliner and pink lipstick today.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/14086286788_6d85b2a6e9_o.jpg)
But the hair dresser last week called me 'eonni' (sister), although she saw my face in detail and heard my low voice. I chatted with her for one and half hours while she cared my hair.
I do not care about passing, but could I pass?
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
Quote from: riversong on May 26, 2014, 06:55:19 AM
So I'm getting more and more confident in myself and my ability to pass as of late. At this point I'm ready to start going out as a girl. I feel like I look passable, but I just want to make sure it's not just my imagination.
Pre-everything, no makeup. This is technically my boy mode.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FosMMgEZ.jpg&hash=ac174e9662286e92052ae1f742f6621f5c0857ed)
You look extremely female in your boy mode, especially this profile shot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 12:06:05 PM
Quote from: barbie on May 26, 2014, 05:55:51 AM
I am a pre-everything mtf. Just wearing mascara, eyeliner and pink lipstick today.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3683/14086286788_6d85b2a6e9_o.jpg)
But the hair dresser last week called me 'eonni' (sister), although she saw my face in detail and heard my low voice. I chatted with her for one and half hours while she cared my hair.
I do not care about passing, but could I pass?
barbie~~
Absolutely Barbie, especially with a little makeup.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kelly_aus on May 26, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
Post by: kelly_aus on May 26, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 02:23:23 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 02:23:23 PM
Quote from: kelly_aus on May 26, 2014, 12:17:32 PM
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Honestly Kelly, tbh just more like me pretty androgynous. :)
I don't know about that bottom photo at all. :o
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 27, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 27, 2014, 12:51:12 AM
Quote from: __________ on May 24, 2014, 07:55:38 AM
Jessica-Louise, you're a decade younger than me and I wish was starting with even half of your positive attributes - hair, eyes, body size etc.
You are in no way whatsoever too old for this!
HRT will do amazing things for you, I'm sure, and I hope you'll continue to post updates as things progress. Once that settles down - give it time - then think about FFS; let the hormones do their thing, because you may find that FFS isn't something you need in order to pass after a year of estrogen.
I have no doubt that starting from where you are, you'll have no trouble passing 100%. No doubt at all.
100%! I like those odds. Thanks for the ego boost.
Yeah, I'll post updates every now and then.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 27, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 27, 2014, 01:01:47 AM
Quote from: echo_artist on May 24, 2014, 08:32:20 AM
You remind me of Misty Day from American Horror Story, I friggin LOVE her!
*googles Misty Day*
Oh nice! I'll take that as a compliment. I can kinda see a vague resembalance myself. We have similar facial bone structures, I think.
I like your avatar btw. I bought a Marceline t-shirt the other day. It's lumpin' awesome! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on May 27, 2014, 02:37:18 AM
Post by: Mermaid on May 27, 2014, 02:37:18 AM
Quote from: riversong on May 26, 2014, 06:55:19 AM
So I'm getting more and more confident in myself and my ability to pass as of late. At this point I'm ready to start going out as a girl. I feel like I look passable, but I just want to make sure it's not just my imagination.
I know that feeling of wondering if it's just your imagination or wishful thinking. Your appearance seems kind of gender-fluid, nothing really screams male to me, I think you got something nice to start with. =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on May 27, 2014, 11:31:19 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on May 27, 2014, 11:31:19 AM
Quote from: Shantel on May 26, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
You look extremely female in your boy mode, especially this profile shot.
Quote from: Mermaid on May 27, 2014, 02:37:18 AM
I know that feeling of wondering if it's just your imagination or wishful thinking. Your appearance seems kind of gender-fluid, nothing really screams male to me, I think you got something nice to start with. =)
Yay~ Thank you! I'm still really nervous, but I can take comfort in knowing that there's nothing that would really "out" me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Goldfish on May 27, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Post by: Goldfish on May 27, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Hi
Finally got hold of a decent camera to use. I can't get the white balance correct on my phone so it looks like I'm dying in about every pic I take. Also seems to make my face look a bit 'odd'. These ones actually look as I do. Even the last one, sometimes, IRL I go out of focus. Scares people, but I live with it ;)
Anyway, I'm not wearing any makeup in these. It looks like I have some beard shadow, but almost all of my upper lip hair is gone atm. Looking in the mirror it's more of a reddish line where the hair was until a couple of days ago so it should fade. I'm generally happy with my upper face, it's the lower half that bothers me, I think it's something to do with my chin and cheeks. Chin feels large, cheeks like amorphous blobs. Interestingly, my throat isn't usually that noticeable, or at least isn't noticed by people I talk to and have asked about it.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14305924513_95765d66e8_c.jpg) (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/14262624956_8dab0ffb98_c.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/14285255454_1f06bd590c_c.jpg) (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/14262642776_0ae844dcc0_c.jpg)
When I look in the mirror my view changes between female-ish/male-ish/'not aesthetically inclined' depending on lighting/mood/tide.
Finally got hold of a decent camera to use. I can't get the white balance correct on my phone so it looks like I'm dying in about every pic I take. Also seems to make my face look a bit 'odd'. These ones actually look as I do. Even the last one, sometimes, IRL I go out of focus. Scares people, but I live with it ;)
Anyway, I'm not wearing any makeup in these. It looks like I have some beard shadow, but almost all of my upper lip hair is gone atm. Looking in the mirror it's more of a reddish line where the hair was until a couple of days ago so it should fade. I'm generally happy with my upper face, it's the lower half that bothers me, I think it's something to do with my chin and cheeks. Chin feels large, cheeks like amorphous blobs. Interestingly, my throat isn't usually that noticeable, or at least isn't noticed by people I talk to and have asked about it.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14305924513_95765d66e8_c.jpg) (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/14262624956_8dab0ffb98_c.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/14285255454_1f06bd590c_c.jpg) (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/14262642776_0ae844dcc0_c.jpg)
When I look in the mirror my view changes between female-ish/male-ish/'not aesthetically inclined' depending on lighting/mood/tide.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rachael on May 28, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
Post by: Rachael on May 28, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
was feeling okay about this picture. I think I pass but lately I have been really down on myself.
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036 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124526834@N06/14106679998/) by rachaelgirl361 (https://www.flickr.com/people/124526834@N06/), on Flickr[/img]
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/14106679998_e3c7de0081.jpg)[/url]
036 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124526834@N06/14106679998/) by rachaelgirl361 (https://www.flickr.com/people/124526834@N06/), on Flickr[/img]
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 28, 2014, 06:27:43 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 28, 2014, 06:27:43 PM
Quote from: Rachael on May 28, 2014, 03:58:34 PM
was feeling okay about this picture. I think I pass but lately I have been really down on myself.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/14106679998_e3c7de0081.jpg)[/url]
036 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124526834@N06/14106679998/) by rachaelgirl361 (https://www.flickr.com/people/124526834@N06/), on Flickr[/img]
You shouldn't be down, you're a very attractive woman and look more cis female than many I've seen her over the years.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on May 28, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
Post by: muffinpants on May 28, 2014, 06:43:49 PM
@goldfish- I think your face is quite beautiful and resembles a couple of girls I have known in my life, so I'd say yes, you could pass! The only issue I see is in the bottom left picture where your head is turned a bit- I'm not sure if it's the angle or what but it makes your neck look a bit thick. Though I assume that will go down after a bit of time on hrt! I think you'll do really well though!! -- oh and to me, you chin and cheeks look perfectly feminine- so cute!
@rachael- pretty! i like your style, too. You definitely pass- remember, you are your own worst critic!
@rachael- pretty! i like your style, too. You definitely pass- remember, you are your own worst critic!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on May 28, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
Post by: kasika on May 28, 2014, 07:09:41 PM
One week HRT (No these are not boobs, it's just my bra i put on for fun)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 29, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Post by: stephaniec on May 29, 2014, 09:01:12 AM
Quote from: Rachael on May 28, 2014, 03:58:34 PMpassing not a problem
was feeling okay about this picture. I think I pass but lately I have been really down on myself.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3765/14106679998_e3c7de0081.jpg)[/url]
036 (https://www.flickr.com/photos/124526834@N06/14106679998/) by rachaelgirl361 (https://www.flickr.com/people/124526834@N06/), on Flickr[/img]
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on May 29, 2014, 09:22:56 PM
Post by: katiej on May 29, 2014, 09:22:56 PM
Quote from: Goldfish on May 27, 2014, 04:08:25 PM
Hi
Finally got hold of a decent camera to use. I can't get the white balance correct on my phone so it looks like I'm dying in about every pic I take. Also seems to make my face look a bit 'odd'. These ones actually look as I do. Even the last one, sometimes, IRL I go out of focus. Scares people, but I live with it ;)
Anyway, I'm not wearing any makeup in these. It looks like I have some beard shadow, but almost all of my upper lip hair is gone atm. Looking in the mirror it's more of a reddish line where the hair was until a couple of days ago so it should fade. I'm generally happy with my upper face, it's the lower half that bothers me, I think it's something to do with my chin and cheeks. Chin feels large, cheeks like amorphous blobs. Interestingly, my throat isn't usually that noticeable, or at least isn't noticed by people I talk to and have asked about it.
(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2926/14305924513_95765d66e8_c.jpg) (https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3798/14262624956_8dab0ffb98_c.jpg)
(https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5582/14285255454_1f06bd590c_c.jpg) (https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5114/14262642776_0ae844dcc0_c.jpg)
When I look in the mirror my view changes between female-ish/male-ish/'not aesthetically inclined' depending on lighting/mood/tide.
I heard someone say once that hair is 60% of passing. And it looks like you've got a lot of it and a relatively female hairline (I'm jealous). With hair and makeup I bet you're pretty close, if not there already.
But yeah, a trach shave is likely in your future.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
You guys know that "it's too late feeling"
I know everyone says its never too late but its hard to feel otherwise
I don't know what do you guys think?
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and here is a worse picture
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I know everyone says its never too late but its hard to feel otherwise
I don't know what do you guys think?
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and here is a worse picture
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on May 30, 2014, 02:51:12 AM
Post by: Sammy on May 30, 2014, 02:51:12 AM
Quote from: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 12:58:32 AM
You guys know that "it's too late feeling"
I know everyone says its never too late but its hard to feel otherwise
Oh, hell, yeah, I remember THAT FEELING quite well. You seem to be somewhere in Your mid-20ties/early 30ties, if I am not mistaken? I was 35 when I started and if I could go back, I would slap some reason into him and try providing some reassurement.
As for Your pics, it is hard to see details - apart of Your body hair, ofc, but otherwise the only part what did stand out was Your brow and then You are never sure if its bone, muscles, skin or all the above-mentioned alltogether.
You seem to have nice hair length and hairline, as well as overall frontal face-shape, jawline included. Nothing way too bony, very little male gender markers (apart of brow and beard shadow).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on May 30, 2014, 02:59:55 AM
Post by: katiej on May 30, 2014, 02:59:55 AM
Lola, Emily is right, it's not too late. HRT and laser should do quite a bit for you.
Next I'd recommend cleaning up your eyebrows, and learn what to do with your hair. A good stylist would know what to do. Maybe some bangs to hide the brow ridge...at least for now. Then figure out makeup and overall presentation.
Next I'd recommend cleaning up your eyebrows, and learn what to do with your hair. A good stylist would know what to do. Maybe some bangs to hide the brow ridge...at least for now. Then figure out makeup and overall presentation.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:17:15 AM
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:17:15 AM
I'm 22....dam I didn't realize I looked that much older......
yeah I figured as much as was mentioned.....Lazers and I are not gonna be best friends.....
Well I guess we'll see.....Hopefully I can start on hormones by the end of this year....
anyway thanks!!..... :D
yeah I figured as much as was mentioned.....Lazers and I are not gonna be best friends.....
Well I guess we'll see.....Hopefully I can start on hormones by the end of this year....
anyway thanks!!..... :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:21:17 AM
Post by: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:21:17 AM
Quote from: katiej on May 30, 2014, 02:59:55 AM
Lola, Emily is right, it's not too late. HRT and laser should do quite a bit for you.
Next I'd recommend cleaning up your eyebrows, and learn what to do with your hair. A good stylist would know what to do. Maybe some bangs to hide the brow ridge...at least for now. Then figure out makeup and overall presentation.
I don't even know what to do about my eyebrows.....I've had impulses to just shave them off completely....
I've always been talked down from it thought.....but thanks for the input....every bit helps!! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 30, 2014, 10:07:41 PM
Post by: Jessica-Louise on May 30, 2014, 10:07:41 PM
Quote from: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:21:17 AM
I don't even know what to do about my eyebrows.....I've had impulses to just shave them off completely....
I've always been talked down from it thought.....but thanks for the input....every bit helps!! :D
Personally I pluck them and use the following link as a guide:
http://www.virtualffs.co.uk/Eyebrows.html
The first time plucking and shaping the brows can take quite a while but after that you just have to maintain the shape by plucking any strays and it's not so bad. Or you could get them professionally plucked at a salon. If you're not fulltime yet you might wanna go for a more gender-neutral shape though?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on May 31, 2014, 12:32:04 AM
Post by: katiej on May 31, 2014, 12:32:04 AM
Quote from: lola_umi on May 30, 2014, 06:21:17 AM
I don't even know what to do about my eyebrows.....I've had impulses to just shave them off completely....
I've always been talked down from it thought.....but thanks for the input....every bit helps!! :D
Yeah...don't do that. Your best bet is to go to someone who knows what they're doing. A stylist who knows your situation can shape them so they're cleaner, but not 100% female until you're ready for that. They can also show you how to do maintenance, but the first step is definitely waxing or threading and shaping by a pro.
Part of being a woman in our culture is knowing about things like makeup and eyebrow maintenance. If transition is in your future, you'll need to become a student of all things girly -- fashion, makeup, hairstyles, etc.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Trillian on May 31, 2014, 02:27:07 AM
Post by: Trillian on May 31, 2014, 02:27:07 AM
Attempt to style my growing hair in a feminine way. Can`t wait visiting hair stylist in couple of weeks. Started laser therapy and quite happy with the result, looks like beard shadow is not that visible now. Wondering if I should make my eyebrows thinner.
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P.S. Excuse the bathroom selfie, the light there was better :)
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P.S. Excuse the bathroom selfie, the light there was better :)
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on May 31, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Post by: Emo on May 31, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Before hair straightening.
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After straightening.
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Ive been taken for a girl in online pics and dating sites.
And Starting to get strange looks in public which is good i spose. Lol
I need electrolysis most definately, but i have a permanent blush. A pink splotch across my face right below my eyes. I love it. :3
What else can i work on, and anythink im doing well? I want criticisms across the board so gimme your best shot!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F1FFF8DE0-1189-4919-8ECD-644778D5BDF6.jpg&hash=4755d83733c21a83eb4979eec938f456be67ac92)
After straightening.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F08D9EAEC-3081-49DE-8F34-22AF09152320.jpg&hash=9c22ba667f592134e5e563ac933cff6c623ca567)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F71B699F1-A60A-4928-9672-027676D01CC5.jpg&hash=90acce4f8eda72211be1dd3ff60c961762af7a0f)
Ive been taken for a girl in online pics and dating sites.
And Starting to get strange looks in public which is good i spose. Lol
I need electrolysis most definately, but i have a permanent blush. A pink splotch across my face right below my eyes. I love it. :3
What else can i work on, and anythink im doing well? I want criticisms across the board so gimme your best shot!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 31, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
Post by: Shantel on May 31, 2014, 10:27:19 AM
Quote from: Emo on May 31, 2014, 10:05:21 AM
Before hair straightening.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F1FFF8DE0-1189-4919-8ECD-644778D5BDF6.jpg&hash=4755d83733c21a83eb4979eec938f456be67ac92)
After straightening.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F08D9EAEC-3081-49DE-8F34-22AF09152320.jpg&hash=9c22ba667f592134e5e563ac933cff6c623ca567)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1029.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy353%2Frainerosewater%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F71B699F1-A60A-4928-9672-027676D01CC5.jpg&hash=90acce4f8eda72211be1dd3ff60c961762af7a0f)
Ive been taken for a girl in online pics and dating sites.
And Starting to get strange looks in public which is good i spose. Lol
I need electrolysis most definately, but i have a permanent blush. A pink splotch across my face right below my eyes. I love it. :3
What else can i work on, and anythink im doing well? I want criticisms across the board so gimme your best shot!
Yes you can, you are just so very cute indeed. Too bad you don't have a full length body shot up so the rest can see what a nice figure you have sweetie! (I saw her, my oh my she's looking purty ;D ) Where have you been hiding Emo?
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on May 31, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
Post by: Emo on May 31, 2014, 10:30:05 AM
Quote from: Shantel on May 31, 2014, 10:27:19 AMIve been pretty busy. Lol
Yes you can, you are just so very cute indeed. Too bad you don't have a full length body shot up so the rest can see what a nice figure you have sweetie! (I saw her, my oh my she's looking purty ;D ) Where have you been hiding Emo?
Ill post a body shot when i get home later. I still need girl clothes. I need to go shopping! Aaah! >u<
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on May 31, 2014, 11:42:01 AM
Post by: barbie on May 31, 2014, 11:42:01 AM
Quote from: Trillian on May 31, 2014, 02:27:07 AM
Attempt to style my growing hair in a feminine way. Can`t wait visiting hair stylist in couple of weeks. Started laser therapy and quite happy with the result, looks like beard shadow is not that visible now. Wondering if I should make my eyebrows thinner.
Yes. You may try trimming eyebrows. You have lovely eyebrows and eyes. For feminization, some trick may be needed for your jaw line.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
Quote from: Chic on May 31, 2014, 04:05:38 PMyour future selfies are very pretty
Some no-filter pics, pre-HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKUHh6Qo.jpg&hash=c21606bcaf4f96977bdb1f266cf6bc910deb76cb)
Some done-up pictures:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpG15xvp.jpg&hash=506a35426b76197be67666adfa21bf6c96467408)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on May 31, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Post by: Chic on May 31, 2014, 04:31:57 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:14:08 PM
your future selfies are very pretty
Thank you! They help ease my dysphoria. I'm getting better at editing them too, because at first most of my facial features were indistinguishable due to the amount of filters I put on them to make it look realistic, but now I've found the right balance of natural looking filters to blend into the picture and essentially recreate the look of foundation. It's not easy to make a wig applied with an app look realistic, but I try, haha.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: defective snowflake on May 31, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Post by: defective snowflake on May 31, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Here I am, do I look ok? Could I pass outside of the salt marshes?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fth_marsh-monster-10397750.jpg&hash=c8a7f893e6af8da6d2ca09090435e0374889c35f) (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv228/jaime_r_d/marshmonster.jpg)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fth_marsh-monster-10397750.jpg&hash=c8a7f893e6af8da6d2ca09090435e0374889c35f) (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv228/jaime_r_d/marshmonster.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:53:44 PM
Post by: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:53:44 PM
Quote from: marsh monster on May 31, 2014, 04:38:22 PMnice dress. sorry I mean nice top
Here I am, do I look ok? Could I pass outside of the salt marshes?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fth_marsh-monster-10397750.jpg&hash=c8a7f893e6af8da6d2ca09090435e0374889c35f) (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv228/jaime_r_d/marshmonster.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on May 31, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Post by: Shantel on May 31, 2014, 08:28:17 PM
Quote from: marsh monster on May 31, 2014, 04:38:22 PM
Here I am, do I look ok? Could I pass outside of the salt marshes?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi686.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fvv228%2Fjaime_r_d%2Fth_marsh-monster-10397750.jpg&hash=c8a7f893e6af8da6d2ca09090435e0374889c35f) (http://i686.photobucket.com/albums/vv228/jaime_r_d/marshmonster.jpg)
Well I'm pretty darned partial to The Marsh Monster, so yes I'd say that you pass with flying colors. Watch out though because someone will probably jump your bones.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on May 31, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
Post by: ashrock on May 31, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
So, I went out in an attempt at girl mode (which basically means a padded bra and a femme top) to the mall with a friend, and well it was really uneventful. I swear, I got stared at far less than when I wear male clothes these days (kids stare at me constantly in guy clothes, a couple stared for like a second but didnt seem to find anything of note). I wish I could say I was comfortable, but to be honest I was rather nervous. My friend says I pass, but it all still feels a little too good to be true. These are with very very light makeup (I can pick out the facial hair shadow, but I think it was barely noticable), a little bit of plucking, a padded bra, but otherwise pretty much how I always look. Soooo, was I passing? If not, suggestions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1427_zps0898e352.jpg&hash=d50e635d3b5cad3eefcb9d3bfd354c865f378ee2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1422_zps5a42a5d7.jpg&hash=991eff2bd1b0a2c592ff03415cd8f4f12a8f1bcc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1409_zpsb7f6c305.jpg&hash=aa612ae4d4283e40c6517fa3a6756dac697fc623)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1427_zps0898e352.jpg&hash=d50e635d3b5cad3eefcb9d3bfd354c865f378ee2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1422_zps5a42a5d7.jpg&hash=991eff2bd1b0a2c592ff03415cd8f4f12a8f1bcc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1409_zpsb7f6c305.jpg&hash=aa612ae4d4283e40c6517fa3a6756dac697fc623)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 07:55:37 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 07:55:37 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 04:43:46 AM
So here is I.
Guy mode candid shot. I'm not wearing makeup or had my eyebrows done, or laser yet. My hair is sweeped back slightly and behind my shoulders. I usually have it more like my avatar. But I wanted to show my cheeks and jaw line.
This is 3 months HRT. I don't know why my nostrils aren't symmetrical here. And it looks like I have a lazy eye. Isn't that wierd? o.O
Can click to enlarge.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01339_zps98493d52.jpg&hash=605e133900474e252a9d58cfeb4c69882dc27962)
No glasses. Moved the light.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01396_zpsad16ec91.jpg&hash=6563a557cc22886fd0dadf31b151e57123eaebfa)
My forehead skin is a bit of a mess because I had about 20 or so comedone extractions done a few days before. So the top discoloration will peel off in a few more days with retinol (I know my skin). Usually it's much smoother and flawless with that bright asian like glow. But this is fluorescent lighting here. So blah. But I don't want to cheat my photo either...
Personally I feel I am not photogenic, what I see in person in 3 dimensions looks so much better than this. But I felt I owe a pic of myself and to stand in front of the firing squad like so many here have done. So here's my first shot.
Evelyn,
You have marvelous features and are quite attractive even in guy mode, I'm convinced that you will have a stunning outcome on your transition. I am an Asian chickster aficionado from way back, so I know you will be terrific!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 07:59:20 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 07:59:20 AM
Quote from: ashrock on May 31, 2014, 11:20:55 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1409_zpsb7f6c305.jpg&hash=aa612ae4d4283e40c6517fa3a6756dac697fc623)
I see a really darling young woman emerging, and you look so radiant and happy!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on June 01, 2014, 08:11:44 AM
Post by: V M on June 01, 2014, 08:11:44 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 04:43:46 AM
So here is I.
Guy mode candid shot. I'm not wearing makeup or had my eyebrows done, or laser yet. My hair is sweeped back slightly and behind my shoulders. I usually have it more like my avatar. But I wanted to show my cheeks and jaw line.
This is 3 months HRT. I don't know why my nostrils aren't symmetrical here. And it looks like I have a lazy eye. Isn't that wierd? o.O
Can click to enlarge.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01339_zps98493d52.jpg&hash=605e133900474e252a9d58cfeb4c69882dc27962)
No glasses. Moved the light.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01396_zpsad16ec91.jpg&hash=6563a557cc22886fd0dadf31b151e57123eaebfa)
My forehead skin is a bit of a mess because I had about 20 or so comedone extractions done a few days before. So the top discoloration will peel off in a few more days with retinol (I know my skin). Usually it's much smoother and flawless with that bright asian like glow. But this is fluorescent lighting here. So blah. But I don't want to cheat my photo either...
Personally I feel I am not photogenic, what I see in person in 3 dimensions looks so much better than this. But I felt I owe a pic of myself and to stand in front of the firing squad like so many here have done. So here's my first shot.
You have rather nice features to work with, I think you will do quite well
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 08:16:28 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 08:16:28 AM
Quote from: Chic on May 31, 2014, 04:05:38 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpG15xvp.jpg&hash=506a35426b76197be67666adfa21bf6c96467408)
OMG you're going to be a real winner too hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 09:38:43 AM
I would expect that you will come darn close Evelyn!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 11:10:46 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:34:52 AMquite possible
ok that's cool. The reason why I'm "getting myself out there" at this point is because I'm one step away from starting laser and trying to decide. I think it will help soften my face up a lot. The above photo's are a 10 hour shadow. And I hate it. Once I get laser finished, there's obviously no going back. I'll be in androgyne mode forever. I have no idea what 10 more months of HRT is going to do for me. But I have some ideas.
I really wouldn't mind if I end up something like this:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2Fkubo_keiko010_zps93d628be.jpg&hash=cb2b71be6698f8b09d6befa3ecf5b54b6f8be651)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on June 01, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
Post by: AshleeLC on June 01, 2014, 11:15:58 AM
Here are some selfies :D
Not sure if I pass still, my nose has been making me judge myself, as well my chin, so its a bit annoying.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAjFQxsV.jpg&hash=c4d7684c57a740e76092dd85c05587e0c82760f6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI1CN9fU.jpg&hash=ec09c37cf91c016b77ebb28417a6a692ea49fe09)
Thoughts would be helpful
Not sure if I pass still, my nose has been making me judge myself, as well my chin, so its a bit annoying.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAjFQxsV.jpg&hash=c4d7684c57a740e76092dd85c05587e0c82760f6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI1CN9fU.jpg&hash=ec09c37cf91c016b77ebb28417a6a692ea49fe09)
Thoughts would be helpful
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 11:32:33 AM
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 11:32:33 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on June 01, 2014, 11:15:58 AMdoing fine
Here are some selfies :D
Not sure if I pass still, my nose has been making me judge myself, as well my chin, so its a bit annoying.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAjFQxsV.jpg&hash=c4d7684c57a740e76092dd85c05587e0c82760f6)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FI1CN9fU.jpg&hash=ec09c37cf91c016b77ebb28417a6a692ea49fe09)
Thoughts would be helpful
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 01, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
Post by: ashrock on June 01, 2014, 12:08:43 PM
AshleeLC, you look great! I'd definately pass you, only though I have is well, hair, Id let it grow out, but thats biased cause I just like long hair. You look so young and cute, Hard to come up with suggestions. Like you mentioned, face has ever so slight masculine features, but really quite a lot less than manynatal female, and nothing at all to worry about for sure.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: defective snowflake on June 01, 2014, 03:10:38 PM
Post by: defective snowflake on June 01, 2014, 03:10:38 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on May 31, 2014, 04:53:44 PMDid you click on the monster though?
nice dress. sorry I mean nice top
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 04:36:59 PM
Quote from: marsh monster on June 01, 2014, 03:10:38 PMI mean nice t shirt
Did you click on the monster though?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: defective snowflake on June 01, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
Post by: defective snowflake on June 01, 2014, 04:48:38 PM
Quote from: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 04:36:59 PMFor an $8 top, yeah its nice. I suppose not much else worth commenting on though, huh? :P ;D
I mean nice t shirt
lol, don't get mad or think I'm mad(well, maybe just a bit crazy), I'm just in a weird mood today. Been off hrt for about a month now, but should get resupplied next week finally.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 04:51:50 PM
Quote from: marsh monster on June 01, 2014, 04:48:38 PMwell, the color of your hair almost matches your top
For an $8 top, yeah its nice. I suppose not much else worth commenting on though, huh? :P ;D
lol, don't get mad or think I'm mad(well, maybe just a bit crazy), I'm just in a weird mood today. Been off hrt for about a month now, but should get resupplied next week finally.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ridder-mark on June 01, 2014, 07:06:57 PM
Post by: ridder-mark on June 01, 2014, 07:06:57 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 01:25:23 PM
2 more. Guy mode hair swepped back like the others. Really embarrassed about my skin, it should be healed in a few days. Maybe I'll post an 'all done up' photo afterwards. I'm more than 95% sure I'm going to go through with the laser.
can click to enlarge
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01440_zps861b964b.jpg&hash=48e3c0be96f6f52a1c89f68e31eae47061435a51)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1289.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb516%2Fusnmaster%2FDSC01399_zpse9a93efe.jpg&hash=842bfe3fb5ffb043d2b101b3cc0b1a2c9375c36d)
I'm actually about 6 lbs overweight. So my features will be thinner later. 10 more months of HRT can't come any sooner.
I think you look great. After you get laser I think you will definitely pass. Maybe plucking your eyebrows a bit would help for now, such as making them thinner in the ends so they look more arched. But overall i think you're reall good :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: xNatasha on June 01, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
Post by: xNatasha on June 01, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1277.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy488%2Fxchristine100%2Fonline%2520pics%2FIMAG0217_zps92e99a69.jpg&hash=028b01265af24c85fc57d1e07984081521a5bab8)
Am I getting closer? I sure hope so
Since I am 18 months into hormones and countless
Hours of electrolysis and 8 full lasers for face
Am I getting closer? I sure hope so
Since I am 18 months into hormones and countless
Hours of electrolysis and 8 full lasers for face
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 01, 2014, 07:55:42 PM
Quote from: xNatasha on June 01, 2014, 07:32:39 PMsorry, the pictures too dark
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1277.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy488%2Fxchristine100%2Fonline%2520pics%2FIMAG0217_zps92e99a69.jpg&hash=028b01265af24c85fc57d1e07984081521a5bab8)
Am I getting closer? I sure hope so
Since I am 18 months into hormones and countless
Hours of electrolysis and 8 full lasers for face
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 01, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
Post by: ashrock on June 01, 2014, 08:12:50 PM
Sorry for the shameless bump... Ill post another picture with it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1417_zps9d525c0f.jpg&hash=004458fff9993dae0f30a32109448a63b581157b)
Passing? Suggestions for improvements? Been getting lots of positive affirmation from friends, but not sure what I can do to improve passability, so really, dont hold back.
Ps: thanks to shantel, always so sweet and supportive, you rock!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1417_zps9d525c0f.jpg&hash=004458fff9993dae0f30a32109448a63b581157b)
Passing? Suggestions for improvements? Been getting lots of positive affirmation from friends, but not sure what I can do to improve passability, so really, dont hold back.
Ps: thanks to shantel, always so sweet and supportive, you rock!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 08:16:59 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 08:16:59 PM
Quote from: xNatasha on June 01, 2014, 07:32:39 PM
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Am I getting closer? I sure hope so
Since I am 18 months into hormones and countless
Hours of electrolysis and 8 full lasers for face
Maybe eyebrow work, some shaping. A nice smile will always be a plus.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on June 01, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Post by: katiej on June 01, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Evelyn, I'm curious to know what happens in ten months? Is your plan to go full-time then?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:30:33 PM
Quote from: ridder-mark on June 01, 2014, 07:06:57 PM
I think you look great. After you get laser I think you will definitely pass. Maybe plucking your eyebrows a bit would help for now, such as making them thinner in the ends so they look more arched. But overall i think you're reall good :)
That's the thing I was worried about. Getting lasered and finding myself standing on the other side. It's like, then, "now wot?" I haven't quite worked my mental female mechanics up for that possibility.
That said, something inside is telling me to do it. DO IT. "Trust me. Do It."
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
Quote from: katiej on June 01, 2014, 09:19:25 PM
Evelyn, I'm curious to know what happens in ten months? Is your plan to go full-time then?
I will go full time androgynously in a few months along with HybridPrincess. We made a pact :D
Female tops work a lot better with my face that much I do know.
I really have no idea what things will be like around this time next year.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 01, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 01, 2014, 10:00:48 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 01, 2014, 09:32:32 PM
I will go full time androgynously in a few months along with HybridPrincess. We made a pact :D
Female tops work a lot better with my face that much I do know.
I really have no idea what things will be like around this time next year.
:D
yeah I think laser is what you need right now, cause of the beard shadow :/
it makes a huuuuuuuuge difference :)
and a bit of brow shaping, I need that too but im too bored XD
overall you look great, great potential.
full time in september together! :)
possibly
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 01, 2014, 11:06:57 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 01, 2014, 11:06:57 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 01, 2014, 11:00:10 PM
Sorry for posting again so soon! I saw a full body mirror and I just had to take a pic.
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Opinions? Pre-HRT of course.
ah nice
hrt will help give your body a more feminine shape, its good that you dont have broad shoulders
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 02, 2014, 03:49:55 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 02, 2014, 03:49:55 AM
V M, Shan, and others thanks ;D
BTW I'm half Korean and Portuguese if anyone was wondering. I see some of my mothers features starting to show through. Asian womens body skin is so creamy. Too bad my fathers leg and arm hair is ruining it. ;D Besides shaving I'm hoping HRT will help fix that.
Quote from: Shantel on June 01, 2014, 07:55:37 AM
Evelyn,
You have marvelous features and are quite attractive even in guy mode, I'm convinced that you will have a stunning outcome on your transition. I am an Asian chickster aficionado from way back, so I know you will be terrific!
BTW I'm half Korean and Portuguese if anyone was wondering. I see some of my mothers features starting to show through. Asian womens body skin is so creamy. Too bad my fathers leg and arm hair is ruining it. ;D Besides shaving I'm hoping HRT will help fix that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 03, 2014, 07:54:54 PM
Post by: Chic on June 03, 2014, 07:54:54 PM
I dressed up for the first time ever today! It's not a real dress, it's just a t-shirt that I made into a dress, but it's close enough and I think it's cute!
What do you think?
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Still pre-HRT
What do you think?
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Still pre-HRT
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Goldfish on June 03, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
Post by: Goldfish on June 03, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 03, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
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That 'shirt dress' :laugh: looks really really good. Usually into more andro clothing myself but I would make an exception for that. Curious how you made it. Does it stay up on its own? Looks like you're having to hold it up in the third, unless it's just the 'look' you were going for.
Anyway, if I came across you in public, based on what I can see in these pics, I would probably see you as female. Cute at that :)
I think your face looks more feminine in these ones than it did in the last pic (the one using the 'full body mirror'). Given that you're hair (which is also pretty good) covers the upper part of your face, maybe it's something to do with that? Not sure if it's just because of the hair, or whether it might be because of something it's hiding. Or could be the quality of the older pic vs the newer ones. The new ones look like you're wearing some makeup (lip stick, maybe something around the eyes?) so it could be that. So many little things that can change so much. Feels like a bit of a minefield at times :-\
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on June 03, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
Post by: AnneB on June 03, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
I'm crazy scared of how I look, and tho I promised my family, my wife, I would stop, it is tearing me up inside. I can only dress, to cope, while out on trips each week. With my herbal HRT (on it 7months) until I can get real scripts for some low-dose E, to keep me from going mad, I try to keep myself calm. Tho I need to know if I could, ever, be the girl I feel inside, can I ever be good enough? For others, for myself?
Just a shave, no laser or electrol yet, just plain foundation and Burt's bees lip balm.
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Just a shave, no laser or electrol yet, just plain foundation and Burt's bees lip balm.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2FIMG_20140510_010147_680_zpsf75e2dc9.jpg&hash=a02dff58234a200f9f3fc6b5ad3e21b1bab0ac2e)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 03, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 03, 2014, 11:23:16 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on June 03, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
I'm crazy scared of how I look, and tho I promised my family, my wife, I would stop, it is tearing me up inside. I can only dress, to cope, while out on trips each week. With my herbal HRT until I can get real scripts for some low-dose E, to keep me from going mad, I try to keep myself calm. Tho I need to know if I could, ever, be the girl I feel inside, can I ever be good enough? For others, for myself?
Just a shave, no laser or electrol yet, just plain foundation and Burt's bees lip balm.
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You have my vote: All Girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on June 03, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
Post by: AnneB on June 03, 2014, 11:49:32 PM
Shantel, I broke down crying posting this.... Thank you dear sister, I needed to know..
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 09:16:08 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 09:16:08 AM
Quote from: kate on June 04, 2014, 07:36:26 AM
Wow Evelyn, you honestly look like a woman with some stubble. After laser you'll be fine. You have beautiful eyes :)
Lies! Don't tempt me! :-\
;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 04, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
Post by: ashrock on June 04, 2014, 09:18:42 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 04, 2014, 09:16:08 AMPersonally, Im super jealous of your eyes... sigh...
Lies! Don't tempt me! :-\
;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on June 04, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
Post by: muffinpants on June 04, 2014, 07:13:16 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on June 03, 2014, 11:18:23 PM
I'm crazy scared of how I look, and tho I promised my family, my wife, I would stop, it is tearing me up inside. I can only dress, to cope, while out on trips each week. With my herbal HRT (on it 7months) until I can get real scripts for some low-dose E, to keep me from going mad, I try to keep myself calm. Tho I need to know if I could, ever, be the girl I feel inside, can I ever be good enough? For others, for myself?
Just a shave, no laser or electrol yet, just plain foundation and Burt's bees lip balm.
I think you are beautiful! Your body and face are so fem! And your shoulders look awesome!! Doin great girl... I really hope you are able to work things out with your family.. if only your wife could see how much happier you would be if you could fully transition... is she willing to talk things over or with a therapist, or even on here? Good luck, honey!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on June 04, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
Post by: AnneB on June 04, 2014, 07:37:41 PM
(Tearing up now) thank you, sooo much, Muffin.. I really am busted up inside,that my wife, tho she thinks I really need to just make myself happy,will not even think about being around if it happens. She said so just an hour ago, after I returned from a therapy session. She can see I am in a bad way now, very sad, and unhappy.
She went to two sessions with my therapist, I went to two with hers, but nothing short of the Spanish inquisition would make her stay with me if I transitioned. I can wear nothing female infront of her.. I get a very sour look if I wear any girl-cut jeans.. And forget any girl tops, or underwear.. She sees my sadness, but said, if I really decide to revert.. become Shrek again.. . that it must be forever as she won't go thru the last three months again. I will have a very difficult decision to make soon.
I thank you for your kind words, it is such a hard thing for me to see... hugs.
Paula
She went to two sessions with my therapist, I went to two with hers, but nothing short of the Spanish inquisition would make her stay with me if I transitioned. I can wear nothing female infront of her.. I get a very sour look if I wear any girl-cut jeans.. And forget any girl tops, or underwear.. She sees my sadness, but said, if I really decide to revert.. become Shrek again.. . that it must be forever as she won't go thru the last three months again. I will have a very difficult decision to make soon.
I thank you for your kind words, it is such a hard thing for me to see... hugs.
Paula
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 05, 2014, 05:28:37 AM
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 05, 2014, 05:28:37 AM
Paula, remember that it's your life, your happiness, and it's not worth sacrificing it for a relationship. Especially if the person doesn't accept you the way you are. Good luck and take care
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on June 05, 2014, 07:30:58 PM
Post by: muffinpants on June 05, 2014, 07:30:58 PM
I know that has to be hard to live with Paula, I'm so sorry :( just to put it out there, if your wife ever does feel open to talking with another significant other to a transwoman, I would be more than happy to chat with her- even though it sounds pretty far fetched :P Hope you are well today <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill F on June 05, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
Post by: Jill F on June 05, 2014, 07:43:38 PM
Big hugs, Paula.
My wife definitely prefers to be with a live woman over a dead man, whether that is the case figuratively or literally. I know it can be tough, but when my wife saw me happy and full of life after E, she never wanted "him" back.
My wife definitely prefers to be with a live woman over a dead man, whether that is the case figuratively or literally. I know it can be tough, but when my wife saw me happy and full of life after E, she never wanted "him" back.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on June 05, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
Post by: AnneB on June 05, 2014, 08:47:51 PM
Well.. its over. A difficult thing happened. I had made close friends in my Disney pirates game, I was always female in it. Well, one of the girls also playing, made friends on FB. We were sisters, nothing more. Well, I had stopped signing in as my... girl acct.. for almost three months.. so Lisa missed me and somehow found my address.. she sent me a "miss you" teddy bear, a sisters bracelet, and a miss you card. The wife saw it and freaked. Really freaked. She stormed out the door saying she doesn't know when she'll be back. But we are done forever.
Its over. Now for good. I will let you know .. what else.. I will now..
I'm .. idk .
Its over. Now for good. I will let you know .. what else.. I will now..
I'm .. idk .
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 05, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
Post by: ashrock on June 05, 2014, 10:28:27 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on June 05, 2014, 08:47:51 PMI'm sorry. I have been where you are. It hurts. we got divorced. I try to still be there for her but she is grossly un supportive. I love her, but I learned, I dont need her. I'm ok now, and I know hearing that doesn't help a lot, but you will be ok too. If she stays or goes, whatever happens, you will be ok. Everyone told me I would, and now I see they where right. I have since started transition, and am happier and more mentally stable than I ever was being dependant on her for my happyness
Well.. its over. A difficult thing happened. I had made close friends in my Disney pirates game, I was always female in it. Well, one of the girls also playing, made friends on FB. We were sisters, nothing more. Well, I had stopped signing in as my... girl acct.. for almost three months.. so Lisa missed me and somehow found my address.. she sent me a "miss you" teddy bear, a sisters bracelet, and a miss you card. The wife saw it and freaked. Really freaked. She stormed out the door saying she doesn't know when she'll be back. But we are done forever.
Its over. Now for good. I will let you know .. what else.. I will now..
I'm .. idk .
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jamiep on June 05, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
Post by: Jamiep on June 05, 2014, 10:50:15 PM
Paula, physically you look like you have a nice body shape & facially a long tapered face, high cheek bone structure should bode well with hrt.
There seems to be a lot of love for each other that you each went with each other to both therapists. Perhaps you can tell your wife that the Disney thing is only a fantasy game, Lisa is an online player in a game...it is only a game. We all have fantasies, surely your wife must have one. She needs time to cool down, understandable to go ballistic over a big issue, but not over a game. If your wife freaked over a game is not easy to know where her head is on this. Best wishes on any chance to align yourselves together. If she can't be married to a woman then hopefully you have a mutually friendly break up so that each of you can be Happy. I have tears reading your last two posts. I am sorry you are both in this pain. I like what Jill said.
Take care
Hugs
Jamie
There seems to be a lot of love for each other that you each went with each other to both therapists. Perhaps you can tell your wife that the Disney thing is only a fantasy game, Lisa is an online player in a game...it is only a game. We all have fantasies, surely your wife must have one. She needs time to cool down, understandable to go ballistic over a big issue, but not over a game. If your wife freaked over a game is not easy to know where her head is on this. Best wishes on any chance to align yourselves together. If she can't be married to a woman then hopefully you have a mutually friendly break up so that each of you can be Happy. I have tears reading your last two posts. I am sorry you are both in this pain. I like what Jill said.
Take care
Hugs
Jamie
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on June 05, 2014, 10:58:41 PM
Post by: Umiko on June 05, 2014, 10:58:41 PM
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switch from a seperate post lol. i'm still pre but only for the next 12 days xD so i'm just wondering if i could get away without FFS xD
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switch from a seperate post lol. i'm still pre but only for the next 12 days xD so i'm just wondering if i could get away without FFS xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on June 05, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
Post by: AnneB on June 05, 2014, 11:10:50 PM
I don't want to derail this thread with what's happening.. but thank you Jamie, Tegan, Ash, Jill.. everyone.. I will.. somehow, get thru this, with your help, I'm sure. I know this will finally give the decision I've needed to make to keep my mind from exploding.
Thank you also, for thinking I would pass(for what, idk).. Wish I had a pic of me from before Oct (when I began my herbals) to see how my face has changed.. not much, but I guess.. enough to tell. But I guess now, changes will abound. I just hope, more for the good.
Thank you also, for thinking I would pass(for what, idk).. Wish I had a pic of me from before Oct (when I began my herbals) to see how my face has changed.. not much, but I guess.. enough to tell. But I guess now, changes will abound. I just hope, more for the good.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 06, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
Post by: ashrock on June 06, 2014, 08:38:38 AM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on June 05, 2014, 10:58:41 PMI really don't think youd need ffs. You have some pretty good attributes going for you actually.
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switch from a seperate post lol. i'm still pre but only for the next 12 days xD so i'm just wondering if i could get away without FFS xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on June 06, 2014, 06:38:30 PM
Post by: Mickie on June 06, 2014, 06:38:30 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 03, 2014, 08:23:59 PM
You made my day. Made it. You don't know how happy you just made me feel! I still feel like I look male in these pictures but that's probably because I've seen myself this way my whole life. To be honest, there are filters on these pictures, but what they did was bring the lighting up and conceal the beard-mustache shadow, which could easily be achieved in real life by simply using some concealer makeup and walking into a better lit room. I could post the non-filtered ones for more accuracy, but my facial shape, features and most everything else are the same as they were in the regular photos.
Thank you so much. You made me feel so amazing about myself and my future ^-^
Edit: Okay, here's the unretouched photos:
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Why are you on this thread????
You belong in the "you look fab darling" thread instead.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 06, 2014, 10:34:28 PM
Post by: Chic on June 06, 2014, 10:34:28 PM
Quote from: Goldfish on June 03, 2014, 10:41:18 PM
That 'shirt dress' :laugh: looks really really good. Usually into more andro clothing myself but I would make an exception for that. Curious how you made it. Does it stay up on its own? Looks like you're having to hold it up in the third, unless it's just the 'look' you were going for.
Anyway, if I came across you in public, based on what I can see in these pics, I would probably see you as female. Cute at that :)
I think your face looks more feminine in these ones than it did in the last pic (the one using the 'full body mirror'). Given that you're hair (which is also pretty good) covers the upper part of your face, maybe it's something to do with that? Not sure if it's just because of the hair, or whether it might be because of something it's hiding. Or could be the quality of the older pic vs the newer ones. The new ones look like you're wearing some makeup (lip stick, maybe something around the eyes?) so it could be that. So many little things that can change so much. Feels like a bit of a minefield at times :-\
I'm so sorry I didn't respond, I was already typing it up but I clicked in the wrong place and halfway through it went to a different page and I lost everything I typed ):
The shirt dress does stay up on its own. Just find a shirt large enough with a neck that's elastic enough, and you'll be able to make it. All you have to do is put on the shirt like normal, then pull your arms through the sleeves, then pull them through the neck of the shirt. It should then be tight enough to fit snugly around your chest. Now, tie the sleeves in a knot at the front. This not only thins you a bit but looks really stylish and you can use it to tighten the shirt around you so it fits well. In the third picture, I was only holding it up because it looked good. It gave the impression that I was hiding the breasts I don't have yet, haha
When I have my hair parted at the top, it not only elongates my face but shows my very masculine eyebrows. I was also in a store and wasn't into posing that much then. In front of my bathroom mirror I'm a lot more confident haha. It doesn't help I was looking downwards in the full body mirror pic. I'm not wearing any makeup on the newer pics except the ones that aren't listed as unfiltered (basically, the filtered versions, lol) have filters on them that give the impression of makeup. It did make my lips more pink, though, so it gives that impression! No makeup around the eyes though. No makeup or filters on the unfiltered ones, though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 07, 2014, 01:31:19 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 07, 2014, 01:31:19 AM
I think you look great, I would change hairstyle because that look is kind of androgynous more than femme, but it's more personal preference I guess... and you don't look like a boy anyway! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on June 07, 2014, 01:32:19 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on June 07, 2014, 01:32:19 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on June 07, 2014, 01:13:58 AM
Still a boy, 1 month on anti-androgens... hoping to get Estrogen soon =(
Really nervous about passing once I properly start HRT...
I doubt you'll have any trouble, hon. :)
One month is pretty much nothing in the grand scheme of things, give it a bit more time and you'll be noticing more changes, especially once you are on E.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Post by: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Welp, 3 months HRT. Not really feeling any physical changes yet, but I guess thanks to longer hair I'm at least starting to cross into andro territory now. The good news is my endo should be upping my spiro and estradiol dosages shortly.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on June 07, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
Post by: Handy on June 07, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
Quote from: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 08:17:37 AM
Welp, 3 months HRT. Not really feeling any physical changes yet, but I guess thanks to longer hair I'm at least starting to cross into andro territory now. The good news is my endo should be upping my spiro and estradiol dosages shortly.
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-lZEvBUwSuGo/U5Fx1-2WYYI/AAAAAAAAAbQ/o5EsneTgrQM/w581-h775-no/IMG_0711.JPG)
I'd say you currently very comfortably fall into 'andro' territory; there's nothing super 'male' about your face that I can see, and if I saw you in public I'd probably assume you were a woman (unless you're build like a pro-athlete or something)
Your hairline is a little bit on the high side but nowhere near the point I'd question it if I saw it.
Honestly I'm pretty sure you're a bit of makeup and a couple months of hair-growth away from 'passing' with no problem. HRT is really gonna help out a lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 09:22:02 AM
Post by: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 09:22:02 AM
Quote from: Handy on June 07, 2014, 08:58:30 AM
I'd say you currently very comfortably fall into 'andro' territory; there's nothing super 'male' about your face that I can see, and if I saw you in public I'd probably assume you were a woman (unless you're build like a pro-athlete or something)
Your hairline is a little bit on the high side but nowhere near the point I'd question it if I saw it.
Honestly I'm pretty sure you're a bit of makeup and a couple months of hair-growth away from 'passing' with no problem. HRT is really gonna help out a lot.
Aww, that's sweet, but I don't think anyone would take me for a woman in public yet. I've still got a very much male appearance. I just picked that picture to share because I was surprised how andro I looked in it. Here's another from the same set which shows me more male:
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kR6KfjfF9k4/U5Fx3za5sZI/AAAAAAAAAbo/G42FRU4sCJk/w581-h775-no/IMG_0713.JPG)
The hairline is a bother for me. I'll probably have to get it lowered when I get FFS done (if I ever get the money for it). Transplants to round out the corners would be nice too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 07, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 07, 2014, 10:05:56 AM
Quote from: Alaia on June 07, 2014, 09:22:02 AM
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kR6KfjfF9k4/U5Fx3za5sZI/AAAAAAAAAbo/G42FRU4sCJk/w581-h775-no/IMG_0713.JPG)
Pretty andro but don't let it get you down you're barely into this so far. I've been on it for 20 years, was neutered 13 years ago and still look pretty andro. I could pass if I put some effort into it, but it's not important to me as I'm married and still regarded as him, he, husband and grandpa by family. So it's going to take you some time and isn't something that can be rushed, you have a nice face though and so hang in there Alaia!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on June 08, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
Post by: Sarah leah on June 08, 2014, 09:54:46 AM
Yeah, once you get a hair advancement and start hrt you will be good go.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 08, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 08, 2014, 06:38:14 PM
Yeah probably. A common theme with MtF's over 30 is the need to address the hairlines. Sucks.
I'm 3-months on HRT so there's hope things will advance forward again before deciding. I think it's 5 - 8 months to see real improvements in hair changes at a macro level.
I'm 3-months on HRT so there's hope things will advance forward again before deciding. I think it's 5 - 8 months to see real improvements in hair changes at a macro level.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 08:47:50 AM
Damn girl. Your face really puffed out in a fem and good way!
You're passing more than I am!
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You're passing more than I am!
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 09, 2014, 09:34:44 AM
Post by: ashrock on June 09, 2014, 09:34:44 AM
Yeah Kate, you belong firmly in the you look fabulous category... Would need to see you in t-shirt and trousers to even fathom why youd be gendered male with confidence. Maybe small chest and facial stubble? I dunno, Im grasping...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 09, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 09, 2014, 01:51:40 PM
Whoa Kate, what's happening to you? Suddenly looking mighty fine there hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica15 on June 09, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
Post by: Jessica15 on June 09, 2014, 08:17:00 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 08:13:15 AM
(had to move this to the right section!)
I took a ball earring thingy and stuck it on my eyebrow to see what I might look like with a brow piercing.
Maybe? Maybe not?
Yes I know about me any my beard shadow. Solved in a few weeks!
My skin is still healing. ;D
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Feminize your eyebrows and apply makeup and I think you'll be golden!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 09, 2014, 08:25:38 PM
^^ I know I consider myself female but I don't want to tip over onto the other side just yet. At least until laser.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica15 on June 09, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
Post by: Jessica15 on June 09, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
33, pre everything
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr561%2Face22gt%2FIMG_6338_zpsf072945b.jpg&hash=748598c5bed65d43db4a9f18d60ea08a551acb03)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1172.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr561%2Face22gt%2FIMG_9032_zps009ca07e.jpg&hash=d58a451618ab04dde70dc49086ada8ce1aa2eab4)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 10, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
Post by: ashrock on June 10, 2014, 03:49:31 PM
Jessica, you look so somber even when smiling. I know its totally over said (and trust me I've been in a place where no matter how hard I try smiles just look awkward and fake, it gets better), but smiles make a huge difference, the kind that crinkle up the corners of eyes. I will say, very well done on the makeup. You have good eyes and cheekbones, and bodywise I bet everything will curve out fairly well after a while on hrt (trust me its totally not subtle) and everything about the face appearance will change (but that's typically quite subtle).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Post by: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Hey all. Been a while since I took any real photos, but I got my recording studio set up in the new flat and was preparing for my 6 month transition video (link: http://tinyurl.com/kht62go ) and I was all "Huh...not too bad you know!" so took some still shots while I was at it.
Still got a long way to go, but feels like I'm heading in the right direction at least ^^
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10431348_784855854881928_4477637020340576427_o.jpg) (https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1399660_784855864881927_6030530176964163537_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10448506_784855874881926_3435121176550639945_o.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10443145_784855858215261_1303646378555737154_o.jpg)
Thoughts, Opinions, Areas to Improve and Threats of Violence are all welcome :D
Still got a long way to go, but feels like I'm heading in the right direction at least ^^
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10431348_784855854881928_4477637020340576427_o.jpg) (https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1399660_784855864881927_6030530176964163537_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10448506_784855874881926_3435121176550639945_o.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10443145_784855858215261_1303646378555737154_o.jpg)
Thoughts, Opinions, Areas to Improve and Threats of Violence are all welcome :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill F on June 10, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
Post by: Jill F on June 10, 2014, 04:21:22 PM
Quote from: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:17:40 PM
Hey all. Been a while since I took any real photos, but I got my recording studio set up in the new flat and was preparing for my 6 month transition video (link: http://tinyurl.com/kht62go ) and I was all "Huh...not too bad you know!" so took some still shots while I was at it.
Still got a long way to go, but feels like I'm heading in the right direction at least ^^
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t31.0-8/10431348_784855854881928_4477637020340576427_o.jpg) (https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/1399660_784855864881927_6030530176964163537_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/10448506_784855874881926_3435121176550639945_o.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t31.0-8/10443145_784855858215261_1303646378555737154_o.jpg)
Thoughts, Opinions, Areas to Improve and Threats of Violence are all welcome :D
Another musician here? So what kind of guitar is that?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:26:18 PM
Post by: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:26:18 PM
Quote from: Jill F on June 10, 2014, 04:21:22 PM...An ornamental one? xD
Another musician here? So what kind of guitar is that?
Hasn't been in tune for about 8 years...yeah it was a teenage phase ^^;
It's just a bog standard Stagg, nothing fancy, but it has so much sentimental value for me that I keep it around -shrug- looks nice too :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 10, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
Post by: ashrock on June 10, 2014, 04:30:51 PM
Quote from: Danniella on June 10, 2014, 04:17:40 PMNew place looks really nice! You pass for sure. You look... waaaaayyy younger. and cute.
Hey all. Been a while since I took any real photos, but I got my recording studio set up in the new flat and was preparing for my 6 month transition video (link: http://tinyurl.com/kht62go ) and I was all "Huh...not too bad you know!" so took some still shots while I was at it.
Still got a long way to go, but feels like I'm heading in the right direction at least ^^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on June 10, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
Post by: Handy on June 10, 2014, 04:51:45 PM
Quote from: Jessica15 on June 09, 2014, 09:55:31 PM
33, pre everything
Jessica: I feel like you've got a lot of potential; after first glancing at your male shots I was NOT expecting your female shots to be anywhere near as awesome as they were. If you had that much hidden potential then I can't wait to see you after a year or so on HRT (and I mean really, HRT makes a big difference)
Your only potential stumbling block is you look tall; that said, I base this observation on almost nothing, and regardless I know a lot of tall cis-girls, so take my opinion with an entire bucket of salt.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on June 12, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
Post by: Jasriella on June 12, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
I didn't do any makeup but I did shave.....well everywhere and everything. I can't really get away getting my eyebrows done with my line of work but here's another go at it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps2d1bf3c2.jpg&hash=dcdb3956e1c1c4a674f0ecd3cb9751193bbeb01d)
(I don't know why it's posting upside down)
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(I don't know why it's posting upside down)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 12, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 12, 2014, 07:31:19 PM
Quote from: Jasriella on June 12, 2014, 04:11:35 PM
I didn't do any makeup but I did shave.....well everywhere and everything. I can't really get away getting my eyebrows done with my line of work but here's another go at it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps2d1bf3c2.jpg&hash=dcdb3956e1c1c4a674f0ecd3cb9751193bbeb01d)
(I don't know why it's posting upside down)
Cute! Where have you been? Once you get out of the oil roughnecking business and away from the all male tough guy environment you might be able to soften up, smile and be more yourself and connect better with your feminine side. Not a bad photo though but you'll get better as you get time in a different environment.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 01:02:39 AM
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 01:02:39 AM
I am not a big fan of pictures or mirrors, so I am terrible with selfies. I guess I just wanted some honest opinions.
At one time I was thinking this is maybe just a body image thing. 7 or 8 months ago I was 215 pounds at 6' 0" I had six pack abs, all my work outs were mostly endurance based I could run just under 6min/mile for 5-6 miles pretty easily, push 250lbs for 3 sets of 15 and row 250lbs for 3 sets of 15 as a circuit work out (the circuit portion was normally an hour of many different work-outs with no breaks) after a 4-5 mile run. Even at only 6" tall I could dunk a basketball on a standard height hoop. I started to look like what most people would call good. I was starting to have the alpha male status in some groups solely based on appearance. HOLY CRAP the dysphoria!! I in no way enjoyed being what people started to see me as! I stopped everything. Eating right. Exercising. Just plain enjoying anything, including life. It was shortly after this that I even learned the word transgender. I had no idea that actually passing as female was possible. The depression from it has always come and gone my whole life, but never gone away. There were never attempts at my life directly because of it, because to me it was so far fetched of an idea to go from being a girl to being a boy that it was like wishing I had wings and could fly, but I have had some rough times with things that I now see were directly associated. The weight loss from this last depressive cycle I have taken as a good thing and it has helped in the look I am hoping for, but it seems like ANY exercise makes the muscles stick out so I have just been lazy.
The reason for the rant is this, I DO NOT FAIL. I just want to know how much work is ahead of me, so please be honest. The shot with my nasty beard is so that maybe my jawline could be seen. No HRT yet. Yes, my toes are weird and long, but I like them. Yes, they have an awkward "parlor trick amount" of dexterity.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F142_zps01c47367.jpg&hash=a75c968de7750d8c41d497df1ba615de651e3be2) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/142_zps01c47367.jpg.html)
trying to show how my hips and waist look. You can kind of see where the hip bone is, I am hoping that HRT takes care of that concaved spot between my hip bone and my thighs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F128_zpse4406865.jpg&hash=311b397ed5fd065c3e95d8f467b768f94d0702e1) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/128_zpse4406865.jpg.html)
yeah,.... the beard is like my invisibility cloak. I shaved it off a few weeks ago and apparently it was pretty popular (sort of a social experiment into how much people noticed my looks, um... yeah, to present male, even in the least, the beard needs to stay apparently :embarrassed:).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F135_zpsdf5e4c6a.jpg&hash=eff280c1a1a70cddc4e101560d5f10ee7bfb65ce) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/135_zpsdf5e4c6a.jpg.html)
tried to get a straight on shot.
At one time I was thinking this is maybe just a body image thing. 7 or 8 months ago I was 215 pounds at 6' 0" I had six pack abs, all my work outs were mostly endurance based I could run just under 6min/mile for 5-6 miles pretty easily, push 250lbs for 3 sets of 15 and row 250lbs for 3 sets of 15 as a circuit work out (the circuit portion was normally an hour of many different work-outs with no breaks) after a 4-5 mile run. Even at only 6" tall I could dunk a basketball on a standard height hoop. I started to look like what most people would call good. I was starting to have the alpha male status in some groups solely based on appearance. HOLY CRAP the dysphoria!! I in no way enjoyed being what people started to see me as! I stopped everything. Eating right. Exercising. Just plain enjoying anything, including life. It was shortly after this that I even learned the word transgender. I had no idea that actually passing as female was possible. The depression from it has always come and gone my whole life, but never gone away. There were never attempts at my life directly because of it, because to me it was so far fetched of an idea to go from being a girl to being a boy that it was like wishing I had wings and could fly, but I have had some rough times with things that I now see were directly associated. The weight loss from this last depressive cycle I have taken as a good thing and it has helped in the look I am hoping for, but it seems like ANY exercise makes the muscles stick out so I have just been lazy.
The reason for the rant is this, I DO NOT FAIL. I just want to know how much work is ahead of me, so please be honest. The shot with my nasty beard is so that maybe my jawline could be seen. No HRT yet. Yes, my toes are weird and long, but I like them. Yes, they have an awkward "parlor trick amount" of dexterity.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F142_zps01c47367.jpg&hash=a75c968de7750d8c41d497df1ba615de651e3be2) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/142_zps01c47367.jpg.html)
trying to show how my hips and waist look. You can kind of see where the hip bone is, I am hoping that HRT takes care of that concaved spot between my hip bone and my thighs
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F128_zpse4406865.jpg&hash=311b397ed5fd065c3e95d8f467b768f94d0702e1) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/128_zpse4406865.jpg.html)
yeah,.... the beard is like my invisibility cloak. I shaved it off a few weeks ago and apparently it was pretty popular (sort of a social experiment into how much people noticed my looks, um... yeah, to present male, even in the least, the beard needs to stay apparently :embarrassed:).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1252.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh574%2Fthewhimsy1%2F135_zpsdf5e4c6a.jpg&hash=eff280c1a1a70cddc4e101560d5f10ee7bfb65ce) (http://s1252.photobucket.com/user/thewhimsy1/media/135_zpsdf5e4c6a.jpg.html)
tried to get a straight on shot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on June 13, 2014, 02:47:54 AM
Post by: Danniella on June 13, 2014, 02:47:54 AM
Quote from: ashrock on June 10, 2014, 04:30:51 PMI do love my new humble abode ^^ It suits me perfectly, top floor, spacious, big bright and airy :D
New place looks really nice! You pass for sure. You look... waaaaayyy younger. and cute.
I really do look allot younger...I have started having people ask for ID when I am purchasing alcohol now...always makes for an interesting conversation when I pull out my ID with a picture of me from 5 years ago...a muscled, shaven head, bruiser of a man >.>
I actually had it refused the other day. Never felt so happy and irritated at the same time xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 09:58:49 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 09:58:49 AM
Michaela I'm pre hrt too so Im not sure but I guess you should start hrt since we cant know for sure what you will need, so yeah and well I cant start hrt yet so I understand if you cant just start as soon as possible and you shoul shave the bear to show us the jawline xD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 13, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
Post by: Shantel on June 13, 2014, 10:51:38 AM
Quote from: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 01:02:39 AM
The reason for the rant is this, I DO NOT FAIL. I just want to know how much work is ahead of me, so please be honest. The shot with my nasty beard is so that maybe my jawline could be seen. No HRT yet.
Michaela,
The comment I DO NOT FAIL got my attention. Having formerly spent a couple of tours in the paratroops during the Vietnam War I naturally appreciate a can-do attitude having deleted the word "CAN'T" from my own vocabulary many years ago. So let me say that anyone can become successfully feminized and look like a woman and even live full-time as a woman, it just takes a planning phase, lots of money, time and patience. The fact that you are a great physical specimen to begin with helps. If and when you get on HRT much of the muscle mass will decrease and you'll soften up. If you're planning to do this it's best to get started on getting the beard cleared right away because it takes awhile and multiple sessions. You'd do well with laser with that dark beard rather then electrolysis which takes an eternity. If you are a US veteran you can get counseling and endocrinology at VA as they do treat veterans who are trans.
Good luck! ~Shan~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Michaela Wimsy, it looks like you have a very slim petite body. That's definitely a positive thing. That's all I can really see from the pics though. The beard, of course, entirely prevents you from passing though, but that's an easy fix (i.e. shaving).
So...I'm considering going out for the second time ever, but first I want to find out if anyone thinks I pass? Just on the off chance that my passability has gone down since the last time I went out (which I know is totally impossible, but I'm just paranoid).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1Ty8eOk.jpg&hash=80da8ec9f3217d9acb05725e6b86d20f9fcc64b1)
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If not, can someone give me some insight as to what it is that is unpassable? I keep thinking it's my lips, but most people tell me that my lips are fine.
So...I'm considering going out for the second time ever, but first I want to find out if anyone thinks I pass? Just on the off chance that my passability has gone down since the last time I went out (which I know is totally impossible, but I'm just paranoid).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1Ty8eOk.jpg&hash=80da8ec9f3217d9acb05725e6b86d20f9fcc64b1)
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If not, can someone give me some insight as to what it is that is unpassable? I keep thinking it's my lips, but most people tell me that my lips are fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on June 13, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
Post by: Umiko on June 13, 2014, 12:13:20 PM
Quote from: riversong on June 13, 2014, 11:43:35 AMyou pass better than i do so your all good xD actually, your pretty adorable :o makes me somewhat jealous
Michaela Wimsy, it looks like you have a very slim petite body. That's definitely a positive thing. That's all I can really see from the pics though. The beard, of course, entirely prevents you from passing though, but that's an easy fix (i.e. shaving).
So...I'm considering going out for the second time ever, but first I want to find out if anyone thinks I pass? Just on the off chance that my passability has gone down since the last time I went out (which I know is totally impossible, but I'm just paranoid).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1Ty8eOk.jpg&hash=80da8ec9f3217d9acb05725e6b86d20f9fcc64b1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCHiizIn.jpg&hash=ecf6e0c536e5effa3543a664e9dcca40d4c2d1be)
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If not, can someone give me some insight as to what it is that is unpassable? I keep thinking it's my lips, but most people tell me that my lips are fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 13, 2014, 12:31:16 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 13, 2014, 12:31:16 PM
Quote from: riversong on June 13, 2014, 11:43:35 AMyou have lips all women desire
Michaela Wimsy, it looks like you have a very slim petite body. That's definitely a positive thing. That's all I can really see from the pics though. The beard, of course, entirely prevents you from passing though, but that's an easy fix (i.e. shaving).
So...I'm considering going out for the second time ever, but first I want to find out if anyone thinks I pass? Just on the off chance that my passability has gone down since the last time I went out (which I know is totally impossible, but I'm just paranoid).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1Ty8eOk.jpg&hash=80da8ec9f3217d9acb05725e6b86d20f9fcc64b1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCHiizIn.jpg&hash=ecf6e0c536e5effa3543a664e9dcca40d4c2d1be)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F58KqAVR.jpg&hash=56e66ff57ce57ea315b8bca00d7ff1a44e644bb3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FqTF2Z6S.jpg&hash=b8aa4059ed8932bb5a1ba4cb6fff23cbdd079751)
If not, can someone give me some insight as to what it is that is unpassable? I keep thinking it's my lips, but most people tell me that my lips are fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on June 13, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
Post by: Umiko on June 13, 2014, 12:32:17 PM
haha! geez, got me doing comparisons now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Riversong,
You have got great lips and eyes, I would consider leaving your headband behind and putting on a bit of makeup. The headband enhances your forhead and you have a bit of brow bossing. I would suggest maybe a necklace to detract attention from your sholders which look a bit broad. Other than that, you are fine. :)
Good luck girl!!
You have got great lips and eyes, I would consider leaving your headband behind and putting on a bit of makeup. The headband enhances your forhead and you have a bit of brow bossing. I would suggest maybe a necklace to detract attention from your sholders which look a bit broad. Other than that, you are fine. :)
Good luck girl!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 01:30:44 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 01:30:44 PM
Quote from: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:17:39 PM
Riversong,
You have got great lips and eyes, I would consider leaving your headband behind and putting on a bit of makeup. The headband enhances your forhead and you have a bit of brow bossing. I would suggest maybe a necklace to detract attention from your sholders which look a bit broad. Other than that, you are fine. :)
Good luck girl!!
Thanks for the advice and the compliments. I actually posted a thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162737.msg1399697.html#msg1399697) before about my shoulders and I was actually told that they're normal.
I'm glad to know I've got a few things going for me ^^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on June 13, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Post by: Jasriella on June 13, 2014, 01:57:13 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 12, 2014, 07:31:19 PMJust been busy with work. One day I can make it full time and not hide it for fear of by extension losing m job.
Cute! Where have you been? Once you get out of the oil roughnecking business and away from the all male tough guy environment you might be able to soften up, smile and be more yourself and connect better with your feminine side. Not a bad photo though but you'll get better as you get time in a different environment.
I really want to get my eyebrows done though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
Quote from: riversong on June 13, 2014, 01:30:44 PM
Thanks for the advice and the compliments. I actually posted a thread (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,162737.msg1399697.html#msg1399697) before about my shoulders and I was actually told that they're normal.
I'm glad to know I've got a few things going for me ^^
They are not very broad. I guess the top may emphasize them, that or I'm seeing things that are not even there as usual.
I think you have a lot of potential. :)
x
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 02:23:39 PM
Quote from: Auroramarianna on June 13, 2014, 01:58:38 PM
They are not very broad. I guess the top may emphasize them, that or I'm seeing things that are not even there as usual.
I think you have a lot of potential. :)
x
Yea, different people see things differently. I think it's mostly how muscular they are on the side, which you can't really see in the other pictures.
Thanks :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 06:05:46 PM
I don't think your shoulders are too masculine, and the muscle will go away, just don't do any workout there... I actually stopped working out some week and I can see some changes :) and try yoga yeah but your face si super feminine too, I don't think you need any FFS at sall maybe just some make up if you are into that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 13, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 13, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Riversong, at first glance I don't see manliness in your face. And you know Evelyn K isn't about the BS when she critiques.
You're also not wearing makeup (I think) I wonder what sort of magic it can do for you.
I think dangling earrings are needed and will also enhance the overall presentation.
Your face is soft, how long on the mones?
You're also not wearing makeup (I think) I wonder what sort of magic it can do for you.
I think dangling earrings are needed and will also enhance the overall presentation.
Your face is soft, how long on the mones?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 13, 2014, 07:28:56 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 13, 2014, 07:28:56 PM
Quote from: riversong on June 13, 2014, 11:43:35 AM
Michaela Wimsy, it looks like you have a very slim petite body. That's definitely a positive thing. That's all I can really see from the pics though. The beard, of course, entirely prevents you from passing though, but that's an easy fix (i.e. shaving).
So...I'm considering going out for the second time ever, but first I want to find out if anyone thinks I pass? Just on the off chance that my passability has gone down since the last time I went out (which I know is totally impossible, but I'm just paranoid).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1Ty8eOk.jpg&hash=80da8ec9f3217d9acb05725e6b86d20f9fcc64b1)
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If not, can someone give me some insight as to what it is that is unpassable? I keep thinking it's my lips, but most people tell me that my lips are fine.
Nice lips, nice facial features all 'round, strong looking arms but not bad since I've seen plenty of women with arms just like your's (at least they don't look all veiny like mine used to when I was still freshly out there), and ooh, legs, thighs look good (I'm always looking at the thighs). And yeah, drop the headband, put on some cute earrings. I know most of the time peeps want to see straight faced pics to better judge how passible facial features are, but I'd still like to see a smile. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 08:03:33 PM
Thank you for the comments! Hoping for hrt soon. The beard, obviously, I would shave if I went out as female and laser will happen.
The VA seems like the last place I would have thought to check for therapist and endo, I guess the mentality of the military and all. I have awesome insurance so I guess I feel bad using the VA. I wouldn't want to put someone out who needs it. I might have to check that route out though.
The VA seems like the last place I would have thought to check for therapist and endo, I guess the mentality of the military and all. I have awesome insurance so I guess I feel bad using the VA. I wouldn't want to put someone out who needs it. I might have to check that route out though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
Post by: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
@ riversong, you look great! I am so jealous of how you hold the phone, so delicate! I have a tendency to hold onto things like they are trying to run away or something. In one if the photos you are flexing your arm a bit, but the others are fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 08:14:39 PM
Thanks all for the comments :) It's very helpful.
I've thought the same thing, actually :) I've never really worn earrings at all before, but I agree that it'd make a good difference.
No 'mones yet :c It's actually my biggest point of frustration right now, I'm having difficulty figuring out how to proceed with getting hormones in my present situation, so out of my frustration I'm focusing on trying to work up the courage to present as female without them for now.
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 13, 2014, 06:53:04 PM
Riversong, at first glance I don't see manliness in your face. And you know Evelyn K isn't about the BS when she critiques.
You're also not wearing makeup (I think) I wonder what sort of magic it can do for you.
I think dangling earrings are needed and will also enhance the overall presentation.
Your face is soft, how long on the mones?
I've thought the same thing, actually :) I've never really worn earrings at all before, but I agree that it'd make a good difference.
No 'mones yet :c It's actually my biggest point of frustration right now, I'm having difficulty figuring out how to proceed with getting hormones in my present situation, so out of my frustration I'm focusing on trying to work up the courage to present as female without them for now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 08:19:03 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on June 13, 2014, 08:19:03 PM
Quote from: Michaela Whimsy on June 13, 2014, 08:13:19 PM
@ riversong, you look great! I am so jealous of how you hold the phone, so delicate! I have a tendency to hold onto things like they are trying to run away or something. In one if the photos you are flexing your arm a bit, but the others are fine.
Wow, I'm sooo glad to hear that! Since my hands are friggin' huge even compared to most guys.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JessicaH on June 13, 2014, 09:54:14 PM
Post by: JessicaH on June 13, 2014, 09:54:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg&hash=db1e4faa3365a258e575deb8a9f00921598ba403) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg&hash=c3db4e6728d34e1efc93a5eca33a65293727ed26) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg&hash=c3db4e6728d34e1efc93a5eca33a65293727ed26) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 13, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
Quote from: JessicaH on June 13, 2014, 09:54:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg&hash=db1e4faa3365a258e575deb8a9f00921598ba403) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg&hash=c3db4e6728d34e1efc93a5eca33a65293727ed26) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg.html)
You look great! Very feminine and totally passing, the only thing is that I would suggest to do your eyebrows with make up (pencil or mascara)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 13, 2014, 11:58:34 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 13, 2014, 11:58:34 PM
photobucket.com might be easier?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JessicaH on June 14, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
Post by: JessicaH on June 14, 2014, 01:50:12 AM
What Evelyn K said. No one is going to download software to look at a pic. sorry.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on June 14, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Post by: katiej on June 14, 2014, 11:28:02 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 13, 2014, 10:27:54 PM
You look great! Very feminine and totally passing, the only thing is that I would suggest to do your eyebrows with make up (pencil or mascara)
That's exactly what I was going to say. It's amazing how much of a difference the eyebrows make.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 14, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 14, 2014, 03:07:45 PM
Just testing to see if I can post having had assistance from many of the girls here! Pre hrt and 50 - not the best of combinations. Already had gender dysphoria diagnosis and awaiting second opinion from gender clinic. Will post more pics shortly.(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsf6151734.jpg&hash=ed795869a9ec7391ec6d697e97950f173071deea) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsf6151734.jpg.html) upside down! Never mind :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 14, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 14, 2014, 09:15:51 PM
@ JessicaH, EvelynK, Yes, sorry about that, was posting quickly on the account of limited time of having access to internet, so I forgot to even check the thing.
But I have it on photobucket in case anyone's willing to offer any opinion, and as I said, I'm off hrt and transition is long behind me, but as I
took a look at these photos the other day, I was reminded of the time I had a dreamt about it and felt a bit sad and longing for that feeling of freedom,
and I was curious of whether it was any worth?
So, it's blatantly clear that I was nowhere near passing, and it's not what my question is, I just wondered if there was any chance... where exactly I was in the spectrum? What do you think?
Again, you can't hurt my feelings as transition is long behind me, and I'm looking for a straight-forward, unbiased opinion, but any opinion is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/Album%202013?sort=3&page=1
P.S. the password is on my profile page, typed in red letters. Enter it twice.
But I have it on photobucket in case anyone's willing to offer any opinion, and as I said, I'm off hrt and transition is long behind me, but as I
took a look at these photos the other day, I was reminded of the time I had a dreamt about it and felt a bit sad and longing for that feeling of freedom,
and I was curious of whether it was any worth?
So, it's blatantly clear that I was nowhere near passing, and it's not what my question is, I just wondered if there was any chance... where exactly I was in the spectrum? What do you think?
Again, you can't hurt my feelings as transition is long behind me, and I'm looking for a straight-forward, unbiased opinion, but any opinion is welcome.
Thanks in advance.
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/Album%202013?sort=3&page=1
P.S. the password is on my profile page, typed in red letters. Enter it twice.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 14, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on June 14, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
Quote from: JessicaH on June 13, 2014, 09:54:14 PMI knew it wasn't climate change! It is your smile melting the glaciers! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg&hash=db1e4faa3365a258e575deb8a9f00921598ba403) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/3june143_zpsb7b78089.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1226.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fee413%2FStacyBeaumont%2F10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg&hash=c3db4e6728d34e1efc93a5eca33a65293727ed26) (http://s1226.photobucket.com/user/StacyBeaumont/media/10june2014_2_zpsc63bbb08.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 14, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 14, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on June 14, 2014, 09:17:57 PM
I knew it wasn't climate change! It is your smile melting the glaciers! :)
Jessica do you have any idea how much the entire trans congregation loves you.... ? You and Shantel alike.
^-^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 12:05:03 AM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 12:05:03 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Furl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs105.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FElizabeth123%2Fmedia%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps685ca45e.jpg.html%255D%255Bimg%2520width%3D300%2520height%3D400%255Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps685ca45e.jpg&hash=d5b9be3edc41ba94a984f07d3e27ff7ae7a086ce)[/URL][/img]URL=http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps685ca45e.jpg.html](https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps685ca45e.jpg&hash=0fafd6bdf7fa6430c0bec5b9f13f9a9b446fb682)[/URL] oops, I'm upside down. Still having problems downloading. Pre hrt and getting on a bit at 50! I'm a sucker for long hair! Not my own so reliant on wigs due to natural thinning and balding.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on June 15, 2014, 12:54:44 AM
Post by: FilaFord on June 15, 2014, 12:54:44 AM
Well, I just told my family this weekend, and it all went as well as I could have hoped. Feeling very happy and blessed, and decided to take a selfie.
The next big hurdle is going to be going out in public, but I am still very nervous about my beard and my voice. I think I am going to beg my parents to get me some laser hair removal. Maybe it will work :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2i8k4zl.jpg&hash=da01479d4ce6ecc63b242291e5c3213961977a50)
The next big hurdle is going to be going out in public, but I am still very nervous about my beard and my voice. I think I am going to beg my parents to get me some laser hair removal. Maybe it will work :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2i8k4zl.jpg&hash=da01479d4ce6ecc63b242291e5c3213961977a50)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Johanna on June 15, 2014, 02:14:21 AM
Post by: Johanna on June 15, 2014, 02:14:21 AM
Quote from: Allyda on April 29, 2014, 09:46:42 AM
Here's another great site for face analysis: http://www.pictriev.com/ (http://www.pictriev.com/) which I actually like a little better because there isn't so much involved to use it -basically, you don't have to join anything.
I don't know how to feel about it I got an 84% female score but it told my that i was 30 and I'm having mixed feelings about this one :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on June 15, 2014, 02:20:51 AM
Post by: FilaFord on June 15, 2014, 02:20:51 AM
Quote from: Johanna on June 15, 2014, 02:14:21 AM
I don't know how to feel about it I got an 84% female score but it told my that i was 30 and I'm having mixed feelings about this one :D
I only got a 54% female... but it says I am 25 and that sounds great to me! :D
Wow. This photo got my 97% feminine and almost 10 years younger. Success! lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fvuhq8.jpg&hash=8fac877b288d347b0b1e56b2ad5b906348d135a9)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 15, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Post by: stephaniec on June 15, 2014, 09:48:43 AM
Quote from: FilaFord on June 15, 2014, 02:20:51 AMto be honest you look quite good , I have to admit I'm incredibly jealous
I only got a 54% female... but it says I am 25 and that sounds great to me! :D
Wow. This photo got my 97% feminine and almost 10 years younger. Success! lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fvuhq8.jpg&hash=8fac877b288d347b0b1e56b2ad5b906348d135a9)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 02:14:07 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 02:14:07 PM
That is a very pretty picture of you FilaFord. And I'll have to agree with the results for that one.
Almost every pic of me is "face not found" but I did get a few to actually show up.
Me ol' guy face '95 (uh, yeah, but only on the outside):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kklJdWeOMfw/U6t0wEgA3aI/AAAAAAAARAI/ysAgWf7fyNo/s512/1995%2520-%2520cropped%2520to%2520me.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-037eDy3Etyg/U6tCTWNRFjI/AAAAAAAAQrY/TBCM_FdyySY/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520me%2520old%2520guy%2520face.PNG)
Last month (ooh, I like those results!):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hF6b-KXXAig/U6tHDxsJ03I/AAAAAAAAQxs/an5WM9G6E4o/s640/5-31-2014%2520me%2520without%2520glasses.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kKCBbP_8pJQ/U6tCUjaAV0I/AAAAAAAAQro/rvLqXo_ODzo/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520no%2520glasses.PNG)
Last week (on the feminine decline, but somehow got younger looking):
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5dgZdORa4bY/U6tGugvwEFI/AAAAAAAAQxI/_nr0UG9jmlA/s640/2014-6-7%2520Ready%2520for%2520work.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BRReb78CRag/U6tCVZsFvgI/AAAAAAAAQrw/4h0Ilk0tyJc/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results.PNG)
Fun, but nothing to take too serious. The celebrity results were crazy, not a one looked anything like me. Does that mean that I'm unique? ;D
Almost every pic of me is "face not found" but I did get a few to actually show up.
Me ol' guy face '95 (uh, yeah, but only on the outside):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-kklJdWeOMfw/U6t0wEgA3aI/AAAAAAAARAI/ysAgWf7fyNo/s512/1995%2520-%2520cropped%2520to%2520me.png)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-037eDy3Etyg/U6tCTWNRFjI/AAAAAAAAQrY/TBCM_FdyySY/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520me%2520old%2520guy%2520face.PNG)
Last month (ooh, I like those results!):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-hF6b-KXXAig/U6tHDxsJ03I/AAAAAAAAQxs/an5WM9G6E4o/s640/5-31-2014%2520me%2520without%2520glasses.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-kKCBbP_8pJQ/U6tCUjaAV0I/AAAAAAAAQro/rvLqXo_ODzo/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520no%2520glasses.PNG)
Last week (on the feminine decline, but somehow got younger looking):
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-5dgZdORa4bY/U6tGugvwEFI/AAAAAAAAQxI/_nr0UG9jmlA/s640/2014-6-7%2520Ready%2520for%2520work.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-BRReb78CRag/U6tCVZsFvgI/AAAAAAAAQrw/4h0Ilk0tyJc/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results.PNG)
Fun, but nothing to take too serious. The celebrity results were crazy, not a one looked anything like me. Does that mean that I'm unique? ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 02:43:45 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 02:43:45 PM
Just amazing Megan, I would have thought he was your goofy brother or a cousin at best! Dang, you clean up nicely girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 03:00:20 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 03:00:20 PM
Thank you Shantel. :D
Yeah, he's the twin I never had. ;D
Goofy brother...cute one. Sometimes he was, when he wasn't being too serious.
Yeah, he's the twin I never had. ;D
Goofy brother...cute one. Sometimes he was, when he wasn't being too serious.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 15, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
Post by: Chic on June 15, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
My avatar is brand new!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 15, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 15, 2014, 03:56:25 PM
Quote from: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 02:14:07 PMYou are really pretty! You had a feminine face to begin with, so that makes it easier. I say you definitely pass. :)
That is a very pretty picture of you FilaFord. And I'll have to agree with the results for that one.
Almost every pic of me is "face not found" but I did get a few to actually show up.
Me ol' guy face '95 (uh, yeah, but only on the outside):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AlkRQGiDHpQ/U5j2KFvD9tI/AAAAAAAAPKE/HQYb4jvAqgw/s512/1995%2520-%2520cropped%2520to%2520me.png)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-jGqubAXQ9FI/U53uCYr8NoI/AAAAAAAAQH0/r_B84UVp_fQ/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520me%2520old%2520guy%2520face.PNG)
Last month (ooh, I like those results!):
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-hb17NI4FpfI/U4qQK-KJ6lI/AAAAAAAAO_c/h2NN03paZQ8/s640/5-31-2014%2520me%2520without%2520glasses.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-9MZxda3qLFw/U53uNeWcyQI/AAAAAAAAQIQ/ABJa5LU5OjI/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results%2520no%2520glasses.PNG)
Last week (on the feminine decline, but somehow got younger looking):
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AV1z_dz66LU/U5Ztf8lG7UI/AAAAAAAAPFo/Qc8ekcHtMaY/s640/2014-6-7%2520Ready%2520for%2520work.JPG)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-AI4wqfT9Msk/U53uM9E7MdI/AAAAAAAAQIM/e6oCZ_iYcds/s912/2014-6-15%2520PicTriev%2520results.PNG)
Fun, but nothing to take too serious. The celebrity results were crazy, not a one looked anything like me. Does that mean that I'm unique? ;D
@paula love your eyes!! HRT has worked magic on your face too :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Need lots of make up . In reality I know there is no chance of remotely passing until I get hrt! Thought I'd try a gothic look! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps941fcf05.jpg&hash=398c7a588ed952afdee8cee547747982f5ab3799) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps941fcf05.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 04:40:45 PM
Quote from: paula lesley on June 15, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm224%2Funderaturnersky%2FPreHRT_zps62bac1a7.jpg&hash=3880bb6c3025c0ac1e76264c8a7a36cbe84be610) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/underaturnersky/media/PreHRT_zps62bac1a7.jpg.html)
;D :laugh: It worked ! ha ha !I still look like a boy but I do not care. OMG ! I hated the way I looked >:( I have Hair ! and did not kill myself. Which is always a plus ;) <3 X
Actually you look good, to me. Your transition seems quite subtle, like mine has been, with just enough to soften your features without changing how you look too much. And yes, you're still here. :)
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Need lots of make up . In reality I know there is no chance of remotely passing until I get hrt! Thought I'd try a gothic look! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps941fcf05.jpg&hash=398c7a588ed952afdee8cee547747982f5ab3799) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps941fcf05.jpg.html)
Not bad at all for not yet being on the hormones. I like this picture of you, shows a soft gentleness in your face, especially the eyes.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on June 15, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Post by: Handy on June 15, 2014, 05:05:00 PM
Quote from: Johanna on June 15, 2014, 02:14:21 AM
I don't know how to feel about it I got an 84% female score but it told my that i was 30 and I'm having mixed feelings about this one :D
Don't put too much stock in pictriev; I bombarded it with information and was able to get really macho men with high female scores, and really gorgeous women with high male scores. You can also throw it off big time just by having a slight angle in your photos/any kind of shade.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 15, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 15, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 15, 2014, 03:01:59 PM
My avatar is brand new!
Chic you look like a chic ;)
BTW, realize that when you're on HRT your face may change to something quite different than what your seeing with digital editing.
This might interest you:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166863.msg1447312.html#msg1447312
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 15, 2014, 05:25:45 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 15, 2014, 05:25:45 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 04:15:25 PM
Need lots of make up . In reality I know there is no chance of remotely passing until I get hrt! Thought I'd try a gothic look! (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps941fcf05.jpg&hash=398c7a588ed952afdee8cee547747982f5ab3799) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps941fcf05.jpg.html)
Waaaayyyy better without glasses. This suits you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Megan and Paula , thank you very much. You made an old bird very happy. I'm fifty already and just waiting for my second appointment at gender clinic to affirm gender dysphoria. Pre hrt as a result! I was briefly prescribed spiro as an anti androgen but ceased it due to fears of bone density loss- suffer from osteo arthritis. Symptom of getting old I guess! Transitioning perhaps 30 years too late. Will of course wait and see. ;)
Evelyn- thank u . Still need the glasses as blind as a bat with eyes too sensitive for contacts. Maybe laser surgery is the answer bug I fear anything going near my eyes!
Evelyn- thank u . Still need the glasses as blind as a bat with eyes too sensitive for contacts. Maybe laser surgery is the answer bug I fear anything going near my eyes!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 06:07:42 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 15, 2014, 06:07:42 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 05:34:13 PM
Megan and Paula , thank you very much. You made an old bird very happy. I'm fifty already and just waiting for my second appointment at gender clinic to affirm gender dysphoria. Pre hrt as a result! I was briefly prescribed spiro as an anti androgen but ceased it due to fears of bone density loss- suffer from osteo arthritis. Symptom of getting old I guess! Transitioning perhaps 30 years too late. Will of course wait and see. ;)
Evelyn- thank u . Still need the glasses as blind as a bat with eyes too sensitive for contacts. Maybe laser surgery is the answer bug I fear anything going near my eyes!
Me too with the glasses deal. I can see somewhat without them, blurry colored shapes, enough that I can walk around okay (I'm actually less clumsy) and cross-streets without issues, but reading at a distance or needing to see detail, forget it. And I tried contacts once long ago, eyes couldn't handle them. Two eye doctors at different times and places so long ago when I had first started wearing glasses told me that I had cataracts, the second one being some years after the first, she was really nice and knew I was transgender (I wasn't yet passing very well then, I wonder if I was even on hormones then, can't even recall when that was) asked me if my mom was sick really bad or took any drugs while pregnant for me. "Uh, I don't think so, why?" Well, because from what I can tell you were born with cataracts, she said. Yeah, I know, the first eye doctor when I got glasses told me that too. Wonder how she could know when it started though (are birth cataracts different from aging type)? She told me that I probably wouldn't be able to handle contact lens, but I tried them anyway, I lasted about a week with red, itchy, painful eyes, went back to using glasses. If I could completely do without I certainly would, I hate glasses. But, I can say that I don't think my eyes have gotten any worst. "I can see! Nope, I was wrong."
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 15, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
Post by: Chic on June 15, 2014, 06:22:37 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 15, 2014, 05:24:37 PM
Chic you look like a chic ;)
BTW, realize that when you're on HRT your face may change to something quite different than what your seeing with digital editing.
This might interest you:
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,166863.msg1447312.html#msg1447312
Oh no, I understand that! The only thing I do to my pictures is add virtual makeup and filters. I never distort or change my facial structure. I still have some weight loss to go through, so that'll make a pretty huge difference too. I think by the time I transition at 18, at a good female weight, the changes are going to be drastic. I don't think I'll look any less feminine or good than I do, which is really subjective anyway, so I'm just excited to see what I'll look like on hormones. I'll probably look much better than I do in pictures.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 06:35:22 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 15, 2014, 06:35:22 PM
Megan- a lot of girls on this topic wear glasses and look fine. Can't imagine you looking out of place with glasses. Changed days from limited nhs choice of glasses when I was young! So much choice nowadays. As for cataracts it can be an age thing although I'm aware eye conditions can effect younger folk. As much as you hate glasses I bet you look more than okay wearing them :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: leon on June 15, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
Post by: leon on June 15, 2014, 06:36:57 PM
Quote from: paula lesley on June 15, 2014, 03:41:23 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm224%2Funderaturnersky%2FPreHRT_zps62bac1a7.jpg&hash=3880bb6c3025c0ac1e76264c8a7a36cbe84be610) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/underaturnersky/media/PreHRT_zps62bac1a7.jpg.html)
;D :laugh: It worked ! ha ha !I still look like a boy but I do not care. OMG ! I hated the way I looked >:( I have Hair ! and did not kill myself. Which is always a plus ;) <3 X
You actually pass 100% here for me, I dont see a boy there at all.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 15, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 15, 2014, 07:31:35 PM
I think you are very feminine, I love your make up.... The only thing is that the dress seems to be for going out clubbing or a night date sort of, I think it's not ok for going out during the day, yeah and I won't go out with that dress personally if I didn't start Hrt or not for a long time, because you have very feminine legs, but I can't see any breast yet So yeah, I would use a padded bra at least... loose the hat because it's very masculine... Besides that you have very feminine shape and your face is very feminine too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 07:53:48 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 15, 2014, 07:31:35 PMThanks for your reply. Actually that dress was never worn outside of my room; I was never even part-time, let alone full time. But the breast was slowly budding somewhere around mid-therapy, but now long gone, since I'm months off hormones and had stopped my transition. Thanks for the compliments. :)
I think you are very feminine, I love your make up.... The only thing is that the dress seems to be for going out clubbing or a night date sort of, I think it's not ok for going out during the day, yeah and I won't go out with that dress personally if I didn't start Hrt or not for a long time, because you have very feminine legs, but I can't see any breast yet So yeah, I would use a padded bra at least... loose the hat because it's very masculine... Besides that you have very feminine shape and your face is very feminine too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 15, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 15, 2014, 08:00:49 PM
Ok yeah Iusually write that because when girls asks here if they pass, (they usually pass very well like you), but then wear types of clothes that are very formal type or sexy, which is not something that a regular ciswoman usually wears during the day... Why did you stop HRT?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 08:13:20 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 08:13:20 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 15, 2014, 08:00:49 PMThat's a bit complicated even for me to untangle... I sort of became disillusioned at my prospects of ever succeeding in my environment, plus dissapointment and some unsolved issues that I should've addressed beforehand. I guess I sort of clinged to transition as something that I must do or die. But nevertheless, I remember my days from when I realised I should transition untill the end of it as something precious and "once in a lifetime" time of my life.
Ok yeah Iusually write that because when girls asks here if they pass, (they usually pass very well like you), but then wear types of clothes that are very formal type or sexy, which is not something that a regular ciswoman usually wears during the day... Why did you stop HRT?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 08:44:03 PM
Quote from: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 06:37:07 PM
I just can't seem to get this going right, can I...
Finally I have the album and the link up, so if anyone's willing to take a look, their opinion is most welcome.
As I said, these are last year's photos when I was on HRT and I know I was nowhere near passing, but I was curious of what people thought of it; was I hopeless or did I have something going? How well (or bad) did I fare?
And again, I'm as sensitive as a cracked feet of a crocodile, so be as honest as possible. :)
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/Album%202013?sort=3&page=1
P.S. the password is on my profile page, typed in red letters. Enter it twice.
There is nothing wrong with your looks or presentation, you actually look quote adorable and if anything you might have gone with a rhinoplasty down the road, but nothing else would be necessary of you to be just fabulous. However if your heart of hearts isn't into it than you probably did the right thing. Just the same I question your reason for being here other than the fact that you are still questioning yourself about the possibilities. There are many including myself who detransitioned for a time for various reasons, but if you decide to turn around it will all come back rather quickly. You're cute honey!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 08:50:44 PM
Quote from: paula lesley on June 15, 2014, 04:56:48 PM
@ Megan Joanne. Oh thanx babe. You look just amazing :P I look ok for a really old bird ;) I can't be 50 next birthday >:( NNNNOOOO :'( ;D <3 X
You're still just a kid Paula, I'll be 71 in August and there are folks here a lot older than me in years. What I have going for me is 20 years on HRT and as my spouse says I'm really immature. :laugh:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 15, 2014, 09:11:59 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 15, 2014, 08:44:03 PMThanks, Shantel. You're very sweet. I actually have a big, no cross that out--huge impeding brow. It's weird shaped and FFS would be necessary for complete passing. Plus the mandatory rhinoplasty. And some other things I added to the list.
There is nothing wrong with your looks or presentation, you actually look quote adorable and if anything you might have gone with a rhinoplasty down the road, but nothing else would be necessary of you to be just fabulous. However if your heart of hearts isn't into it than you probably did the right thing. Just the same I question your reason for being here other than the fact that you are still questioning yourself about the possibilities. There are many including myself who detransitioned for a time for various reasons, but if you decide to turn around it will all come back rather quickly. You're cute honey!
But the thing is that looking at these photos and thinking about it just doesn't "strike the chord" you know. I felt a bit of nostalgia the other day and since I never posted these up for assessment, I thought I could at least do that for once. But I'm not crossing out the chance that I might come back one day, in this or any other form to the same dream. It's not that I actually understood my feelings quite well.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JessicaH on June 15, 2014, 11:33:56 PM
Post by: JessicaH on June 15, 2014, 11:33:56 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 14, 2014, 09:28:49 PM
Jessica do you have any idea how much the entire trans congregation loves you.... ? You and Shantel alike.
^-^
Ok... lol Thanks!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on June 17, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
Post by: E-Brennan on June 17, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 17, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
Still pre-errythaaaang
I think you're in the wrong topic. Surely you meant to post this in "You look fabulous, darling!" :)
You look great and very feminine already - definitely passing from what I can see - and if that's pre-everything, you're going to be absolutely amazing post-everything.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 17, 2014, 09:43:35 PM
Post by: Chic on June 17, 2014, 09:43:35 PM
Quote from: __________ on June 17, 2014, 09:17:07 PM
I think you're in the wrong topic. Surely you meant to post this in "You look fabulous, darling!" :)
You look great and very feminine already - definitely passing from what I can see - and if that's pre-everything, you're going to be absolutely amazing post-everything.
That'd sound so conceited being pre-everything and all, haha. I feel like I wouldn't fit in. I'm too amateur
Yeah I'm pre-everything, it's about a year and three months until I can start HRT, personal reasons and all that.
I'm quite young so I hope the hormones will work some magic on me
Thank you very much! (:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on June 18, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
Post by: ashrock on June 18, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
Alright, some more, this time with more HRT and more makeup: First off a set of male, then androgynuous, and the last set passes as female to me. Critiques and opinions are greatly appreciated, I really think Im doing better, so keep up the good advice
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 18, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 18, 2014, 09:12:42 AM
Quote from: ashrock on June 18, 2014, 12:56:21 AMOkay, may I try to help... :)
Alright, some more, this time with more HRT and more makeup: First off a set of male, then androgynuous, and the last set passes as female to me. Critiques and opinions are greatly appreciated, I really think Im doing better, so keep up the good advice
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So you look andro on the first 6 pictures, but on 4th and 5th you lean towards feminine. On the last four pictures, I don't know what is making such a difference but you look very feminine, I would say you definitely pass. :) I love the pic 8th picture!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ErinS on June 18, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Post by: ErinS on June 18, 2014, 09:15:43 AM
Quote from: Chic on June 17, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
Still pre-errythaaaang
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I need some toast to go with my jelly. :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 18, 2014, 09:28:23 AM
Post by: Auroramarianna on June 18, 2014, 09:28:23 AM
Quote from: Chic on June 17, 2014, 09:09:00 PM
Still pre-errythaaaang
Oh my Gosh!! You look really good, so feminine and pretty. I would have never known.
HRT will be magic to you :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 18, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
Post by: stephaniec on June 18, 2014, 10:57:54 AM
Quote from: ashrock on June 18, 2014, 12:56:21 AMmake up and eye brows would help quite a bit, eye liner different shades of foundation , I like the lighter ones.
Alright, some more, this time with more HRT and more makeup: First off a set of male, then androgynuous, and the last set passes as female to me. Critiques and opinions are greatly appreciated, I really think Im doing better, so keep up the good advice
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Post by: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Heya everyone!!
I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
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I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 18, 2014, 03:18:09 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 18, 2014, 03:18:09 PM
Quote from: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PMyou look nice
Heya everyone!!
I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JessicaH on June 18, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
Post by: JessicaH on June 18, 2014, 09:23:40 PM
Quote from: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Heya everyone!!
I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
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Just getting rid of the beard shadow will have an amazing effect on you. Good starting place!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on June 18, 2014, 09:29:25 PM
Post by: Shantel on June 18, 2014, 09:29:25 PM
Quote from: NikaKeyo on June 18, 2014, 09:14:44 PM
Pictures from earlier today. No makeup (due to going swimming and stuff). 3 1/2 years hrt.
Pretty much go everyday without makeup unless I am having a really really bad day ( most work days) lol.
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Darling little female face and figure, I'm not big on lip piercings, they are a detraction and remind me of a few fish that got away, kids these days! Don't mind me honey I'm old, you're looking great!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 18, 2014, 09:52:32 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 18, 2014, 09:52:32 PM
Quote from: ashrock on June 18, 2014, 12:56:21 AM
Alright, some more, this time with more HRT and more makeup: First off a set of male, then androgynuous, and the last set passes as female to me. Critiques and opinions are greatly appreciated, I really think Im doing better, so keep up the good advice
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1440_zps09efe2c0.jpg&hash=ab1e0cc19dd27778fbb027a22e2bd2556f304e94)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag266%2Fashrocklynn%2FIMAG1492_zpslgrxrz69.jpg&hash=0b98da26d979ca2f2703ebe8cbf1fbbdefd153a2)
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Maybe you should try wear more feminine clothes... The grey shirt is ok... Then yeah I would use more make up on the eyes like eyelines to draw attention to them because they are very beautiful ;), and I would change hair style to cover the brow ridge, but the curly hair are very cute!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 18, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 18, 2014, 09:57:51 PM
Quote from: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Heya everyone!!
I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1313.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft549%2FZoe_Louise_Taylor%2F20140511_134117_zps5jloq8ug.jpg&hash=697f8553d7511a0f8bcb5e847ecc719d53e9263b) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Zoe_Louise_Taylor/media/20140511_134117_zps5jloq8ug.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1313.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft549%2FZoe_Louise_Taylor%2F1505360_1437389733165157_1466849056_n-1_zpsvlsepkzr.jpeg&hash=9b4559bd702651583d7d997ddfe455445e560813) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Zoe_Louise_Taylor/media/1505360_1437389733165157_1466849056_n-1_zpsvlsepkzr.jpeg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1313.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ft549%2FZoe_Louise_Taylor%2F1493161_10202941950020256_2028713476_n_zpstsem0ses.jpeg&hash=1092430c731162bd90df3d6d5ef7654280348ef4) (http://s1313.photobucket.com/user/Zoe_Louise_Taylor/media/1493161_10202941950020256_2028713476_n_zpstsem0ses.jpeg.html)
I thinks you're going to turn out really pretty, can see it already. Your hair looks nice too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on June 18, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
Post by: FilaFord on June 18, 2014, 11:50:12 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 18, 2014, 09:29:25 PM
Darling little female face and figure, I'm not big on lip piercings, they are a detraction and remind me of a few fish that got away, kids these days! Don't mind me honey I'm old, you're looking great!
Ditch the glasses! They make you look masculine, IMO.
You look absolutely gorgeous without the glasses though! That body... wozah :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: leon on June 19, 2014, 03:38:48 PM
Post by: leon on June 19, 2014, 03:38:48 PM
Quote from: Zoe Louise Taylor on June 18, 2014, 03:06:18 PM
Heya everyone!!
I just wanted to post a few pics, im hoping to start hormones early nxt year!! And was wondering wat u think of my appearence at the moment?
You have very pretty eyes, soft and cute. The beard shadow does give you away at the moment, but if one looks beyond that, you are a very nice lookin' lady.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Hi,
just out of curiosity, do you think I pass in these photos? Be cruelly honest please. I'm not seeking appraisal, but straightforward truth. When I upload my pics to pictriev, it reads my femininity from 50 to a full 100% in some photos, and I suspect I broke it. :embarrassed:
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/album1?sort=6&page=1
Thanks.
P.S. The pass is typed in red on my profile page, enter it twice.
just out of curiosity, do you think I pass in these photos? Be cruelly honest please. I'm not seeking appraisal, but straightforward truth. When I upload my pics to pictriev, it reads my femininity from 50 to a full 100% in some photos, and I suspect I broke it. :embarrassed:
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/album1?sort=6&page=1
Thanks.
P.S. The pass is typed in red on my profile page, enter it twice.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:38:28 PM
Quote from: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:36:40 PM
Hi,
just out of curiosity, do you think I pass in these photos? Be cruelly honest please. I'm not seeking appraisal, but straightforward truth. When I upload my pics to pictriev, it reads my femininity from 50 to a full 100% in some photos, and I suspect I broke it. :embarrassed:
http://s30.photobucket.com/user/daggi87/library/album1?sort=6&page=1
Thanks.
P.S. The pass is typed in red on my profile page, enter it.
My 1st impression right off the bat was CIS woman.
You have no worries LittleV.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:40:49 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:38:28 PMThanks. :) Even with a huge skull and forehead like mine? Not that those features show in the pics in the real light.
My 1st impression right off the bat was CIS woman.
You have no worries LittleV.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on June 19, 2014, 10:43:57 PM
Post by: katiej on June 19, 2014, 10:43:57 PM
I wouldn't worry too much about your forehead. Even in profile you still come off as female. Add a bit of makeup and you're in really good shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:46:02 PM
Check out Angelina Jolie, Ellen Page, Natalie Portman. Their foreheads are even - bigger.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:53:55 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:53:55 PM
Quote from: katiej on June 19, 2014, 10:43:57 PMThank you! I was actually quite comfortable having none or minimal makeup in the last months of my therapy (the pics shown). All I wanted is too get my hair long which was quite difficult with my hair misbehaving and my job back then which obliged me to wear either a cap or a beannie so as to not get it dirty. That however had an effect on it.
I wouldn't worry too much about your forehead. Even in profile you still come off as female. Add a bit of makeup and you're in really good shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:57:41 PM
Post by: LittleV on June 19, 2014, 10:57:41 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 19, 2014, 10:46:02 PMYeah, but they don't have the size or the boxiness of my noggin. I hardly doubt it.
Check out Angelina Jolie, Ellen Page, Natalie Portman. Their foreheads are even - bigger.
The only thing I was blessed with is my face, which I always thought looked like a female face had been stretched over a male skull. :-\
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on June 20, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
Post by: sad panda on June 20, 2014, 02:02:30 PM
@angelique I think you pass, I mean I'd have to know you were trans in the first place to notice anything. If there's anything it's cuz the lighting on your face makes it look different.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 20, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 20, 2014, 03:09:06 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
I wish I could not pass like that, you are very HOT lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on June 20, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
Post by: stephaniec on June 20, 2014, 07:32:48 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 20, 2014, 03:09:06 PMditto
I wish I could not pass like that, you are very HOT lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on June 20, 2014, 11:55:09 PM
Post by: FilaFord on June 20, 2014, 11:55:09 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
It's probably your nose or your chin that is giving off that impression. I have a very large nose and it gives me a lot of "manly" vibes, but what I have noticed is that pictures don't do any justice. I only critique my own looks after evaluating videos now. Mannerisms and non-verbal communicating are so much more important that I previously thought. I used to think my voice was hideous because I only listened to the audio, but after watching videos I realize that I act a lot more feminine than I ever give myself credit for and that actually makes my voice not matter so much.
In the same aspect, you can critique your looks, but the whole package makes whatever you are criticizing a moot point. You got it going on, Angélique! Don't let any one aspect of you pick at your brain, because you are definitely doing better than the majority of us could ever dream of :)
You are absolutely gorgeous, but there is always something we can self-criticize!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 21, 2014, 12:27:06 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 21, 2014, 12:27:06 AM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PM
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
Angelique you're not on hormones yet you look pretty good. But I'm curious how did you grow breasts if you're not on HRT?
I think without an HRT regimen T is going to slowly masculinize if it isn't currently. This needs to be addressed. But so far you look fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 21, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on June 21, 2014, 01:18:00 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 21, 2014, 12:27:06 AMive been taking a bunch of natural estrogen herbal hormones for the last 3 months so that's how I grew breasts.
Angelique you're not on hormones yet you look pretty good. But I'm curious how did you grow breasts if you're not on HRT?
I think without an HRT regimen T is going to slowly masculinize if it isn't currently. This needs to be addressed. But so far you look fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on June 21, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Post by: Alaia on June 21, 2014, 02:41:08 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 20, 2014, 03:09:06 PMSeconded! I don't think you have any problems with passing Angélique. And wow, all that growth from herbals? And here I thought that stuff was mostly just quackery...Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PMI wish I could not pass like that, you are very HOT lol
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 03:51:55 PM
Angelique, wow! You look amazing having only relied on estrogenic herbal medication. I too did not think that would be so effective. With youth being on your side hrt will ensure a fabulous transition- genuinely you pass easily without it. I'm so envious of what is great breast development. :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
Ok I feel like I pass with makeup on but what about without or very little heres a few pics with no makeup and also tell me if you cant see the pics as I seem to be having trouble uploading them (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs100.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fmedia%2Fimage201406200002_zpsf94e150f.jpg.html%3Fsort%3D3%26amp%3Bo%3D3&hash=8e69ec6fae85e1d8198ad0cc603fb439f3c1a998)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs100.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fmedia%2Fimage201406210001_zps27ecfc4c.jpg.html%3Fsort%3D3%26amp%3Bo%3D0&hash=3b42593f9fa61e8a445882cccbc982f706d14f0c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs100.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fmedia%2Fimage201406210001_zps27ecfc4c.jpg.html%3Fsort%3D3%26amp%3Bo%3D0&hash=3b42593f9fa61e8a445882cccbc982f706d14f0c)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 21, 2014, 04:14:16 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 21, 2014, 04:14:16 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on June 21, 2014, 04:01:40 PM
Ok I feel like I pass with makeup on but what about without or very little heres a few pics with no makeup and also tell me if you cant see the pics as I seem to be having trouble uploading them (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs100.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fmedia%2Fimage201406200002_zpsf94e150f.jpg.html%3Fsort%3D3%26amp%3Bo%3D3&hash=8e69ec6fae85e1d8198ad0cc603fb439f3c1a998)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs100.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fmedia%2Fimage201406210001_zps27ecfc4c.jpg.html%3Fsort%3D3%26amp%3Bo%3D0&hash=3b42593f9fa61e8a445882cccbc982f706d14f0c)
Try this
https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,167176.msg1451116.html#msg1451116
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:20:22 PM
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:20:22 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fimage201406200002_zpsf94e150f.jpg&hash=67d46d4582beb6be4ede4d7f450f37a2db02e4df)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:22:55 PM
and heres an even more unflattering pic that I really don't like (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fimage201406210002_zps278170df.jpg&hash=11bc7d17abe08973f8fcd0b181c134dcafad8706)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 04:40:06 PM
Anna - you have nothing to worry about my dear. You have a beautiful fresh faced complexion with no facial hair to concern you! I don't know if some brow shaping is an option for you. I can only dream of passing without makeup ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 04:42:10 PM
By brow shaping do you mean tweezing cause I usually do that but its been like a week, or do you mean getting the brow bone shaved done cause im considering that too lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on June 21, 2014, 04:51:02 PM
Just tweezing my love! Truly though I think you are more than fine. Don't be overly critical of yourself. I don't believe you need a brow bone shave. You are beautiful ^-^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on June 21, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
Post by: Alaia on June 21, 2014, 04:56:25 PM
Yeah, for being sans makeup you are looking pretty great Anna. The eyebrows do look a bit bold, but that's totally ok. Lots of gorgeous women have bold eyebrows.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
Post by: ana1111 on June 21, 2014, 05:08:23 PM
thanks guys :laugh:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on June 21, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
Post by: katiej on June 21, 2014, 05:51:05 PM
There's a reason women wear makeup. For GG's they feel like they look ugly, for us we feel like we look like men.
Anna, you have nothing to worry about. HRT will be kind to you. A bit of fat redistribution on your face, and you'll be in great shape.
Anna, you have nothing to worry about. HRT will be kind to you. A bit of fat redistribution on your face, and you'll be in great shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 21, 2014, 10:20:08 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 21, 2014, 10:20:08 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on June 19, 2014, 11:14:00 PMReally? Angélique if I only looked half as good as you do in that photo on my best day I'd be a veeeeery happy girl! Your gorgeous, stunning, and fabulously feminine all rolled up in one. Your very beautiful.
I feel like I don't pass in this pic and im not just saying that. pls be brutally honest.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10438547_816138595072021_6153547848273646045_n_zpsa0e10d1d.jpg&hash=371ed1964ba6bdceaddd3330396aeb8505de0cfc)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: soysauceshawty on June 22, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
Post by: soysauceshawty on June 22, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
Hey everyone! I know I'm very passable! It does help that I'm a makeup fanatic!! contouring works wonders! And falsies he he! https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp (https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: christinaw on June 22, 2014, 01:35:15 AM
Post by: christinaw on June 22, 2014, 01:35:15 AM
Quote from: soysauceshawty on June 22, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
Hey everyone! I know I'm very passable! It does help that I'm a makeup fanatic!! contouring works wonders! And falsies he he! https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp (https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp)
Haha I find it annoying that you're saying you're very passable but I guess if the boot fits. You're certainly unquestionably passable
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on June 22, 2014, 02:11:59 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on June 22, 2014, 02:11:59 AM
:police:
Just a general notice and not pointing the finger at anyone, but the site takes a very dim view of anyone passing off pictures of other people as their own. Especially pictures of cis women. Just so we're clear, m'kay?
:police:
Just a general notice and not pointing the finger at anyone, but the site takes a very dim view of anyone passing off pictures of other people as their own. Especially pictures of cis women. Just so we're clear, m'kay?
:police:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 22, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 22, 2014, 01:28:15 PM
Quote from: Shantel on June 18, 2014, 09:29:25 PMI have to agree with you on the piercings Auntie. I think they spoil ones natural beauty. But then again, I'm an old lady so I guess I'm behind the times a bit, lol!!
Darling little female face and figure, I'm not big on lip piercings, they are a detraction and remind me of a few fish that got away, kids these days! Don't mind me honey I'm old, you're looking great!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 22, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 22, 2014, 01:44:44 PM
Quote from: soysauceshawty on June 22, 2014, 01:24:38 AM
Hey everyone! I know I'm very passable! It does help that I'm a makeup fanatic!! contouring works wonders! And falsies he he! https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp (https://imageshack.com/i/mv0wdvp)
If you think you are very passable I guess you should post on the You look fabulous, darling post XD but yeah you look very femme
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: E-Brennan on June 23, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Post by: E-Brennan on June 23, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Chic, in those bottom two photos you have the most beautiful giant eyes. Absolutely enchanting! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on June 23, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
Post by: muffinpants on June 23, 2014, 04:12:38 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on June 21, 2014, 04:20:22 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2Fimage201406200002_zpsf94e150f.jpg&hash=67d46d4582beb6be4ede4d7f450f37a2db02e4df)
I love this picture. You look so much like Emilia Clarke, it's adorable ^_^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 23, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Post by: Chic on June 23, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Quote from: __________ on June 23, 2014, 07:56:48 AM
Chic, in those bottom two photos you have the most beautiful giant eyes. Absolutely enchanting! :)
Thank you so much! You're so sweet. I love these pictures, seeing myself as a blonde is awesome! I think it's flattering.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 23, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 23, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 23, 2014, 04:32:39 PM
Thank you so much! You're so sweet. I love these pictures, seeing myself as a blonde is awesome! I think it's flattering.
Are you going to do strawberry blonde and red next? :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 24, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
Post by: Chic on June 24, 2014, 12:02:55 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 23, 2014, 10:06:54 PM
Are you going to do strawberry blonde and red next? :)
I just might! The next shade and color is always unpredictable, in fact I don't even know ;o
I might even go for blue next <.< >.>
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 24, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 24, 2014, 09:20:59 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 22, 2014, 03:32:12 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8pgg5Uz.jpg&hash=b2f998fa5ecb71043fb4e2093db37bc997e8b9de)
You are very pretty, and you definately pass :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Codia on June 25, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
Post by: Codia on June 25, 2014, 01:56:00 PM
1 1/2 month HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fs5lgp3pan%2Fimage.jpg&hash=3bb2aa70bfa5c38e8d32241c20aa30fb0c6d5c72) (http://postimg.org/image/s5lgp3pan/)
Not quite sure why these two are upside down
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fl13ng2i1b%2Fimage.jpg&hash=189acf55a4168f5e4a16c149d2d1c3ba5340a0a1) (http://postimg.org/image/l13ng2i1b/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fvzewy96mn%2Fimage.jpg&hash=a9dd9f0f6fc85a1818cf418daaa68ca5cddf4b27) (http://postimg.org/image/vzewy96mn/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fs5lgp3pan%2Fimage.jpg&hash=3bb2aa70bfa5c38e8d32241c20aa30fb0c6d5c72) (http://postimg.org/image/s5lgp3pan/)
Not quite sure why these two are upside down
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fl13ng2i1b%2Fimage.jpg&hash=189acf55a4168f5e4a16c149d2d1c3ba5340a0a1) (http://postimg.org/image/l13ng2i1b/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fvzewy96mn%2Fimage.jpg&hash=a9dd9f0f6fc85a1818cf418daaa68ca5cddf4b27) (http://postimg.org/image/vzewy96mn/)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 26, 2014, 12:02:30 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 26, 2014, 12:02:30 PM
Quote from: Codia on June 25, 2014, 01:56:00 PMLove the dreads. They look great on you. Hard to tell much from the upside down pics though, but you look great in this one!
1 1/2 month HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs27.postimg.org%2Fs5lgp3pan%2Fimage.jpg&hash=3bb2aa70bfa5c38e8d32241c20aa30fb0c6d5c72) (http://postimg.org/image/s5lgp3pan/)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Hi everybody. I know I still look like a guy, but I'm just not entirely sure what it is about my face that stands out. Just so you know, I'm 28 and recently started HRT. Before, I would have never considered FFS, but for some reason I'm really considering it now. Really it is WAY too soon for me to see the effects of HRT, but are there any features on my face that would require FFS that HRT couldn't help with? Thank you and please be honest, I just want to look naturally feminine you know? I'm not too worried about my body, it's just my face that gets me sometimes, MOSTLY the profile and I rarely turn my head to look at it in the mirror cause...you know.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
Post by: Sammy on June 26, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 03:51:39 PM
Most recent one after starting HRT. My hair is a little longer than my shoulders and I have it pulled back so you can see my face:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2F79ae38d6-a14d-4091-acfa-9190a89ef185_zps07e53944.jpg&hash=34ab112e8a8eac4e19c84bfd4be4f85f44ded157)
It is a bit strange, but if I saw this pic as Your avatar, I would have assumed that You are FtM going for male presentation...
I cant really get a decent view of Your brow, but otherwise... Your face is not really masculine, so the overal impression is caused by presentation rather than facial features.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 05:09:44 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 05:09:44 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 26, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
It is a bit strange, but if I saw this pic as Your avatar, I would have assumed that You are FtM going for male presentation...
I cant really get a decent view of Your brow, but otherwise... Your face is not really masculine, so the overal impression is caused by presentation rather than facial features.
You know, that isn't the first time I've heard that! Yes, I'm not wearing any makeup or presenting as female in those photos I was just moreso trying to get an idea if I had any skeletal features that stood out to others than myself. But I suppose I should post some pics en femme? Thanks for your reply either way, it really helps. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on June 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Post by: muffinpants on June 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 26, 2014, 05:00:15 PM
It is a bit strange, but if I saw this pic as Your avatar, I would have assumed that You are FtM going for male presentation...
you took the words right out of my mouth :o
I think you look pretty rad, girl. Just give it a bit more time- to me your face is kinda in that in-between/andro phase. But you look great and I know you'll do awesomely. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 26, 2014, 06:27:24 PM
Quote from: muffinpants on June 26, 2014, 06:07:21 PM
you took the words right out of my mouth :o
I think you look pretty rad, girl. Just give it a bit more time- to me your face is kinda in that in-between/andro phase. But you look great and I know you'll do awesomely. :)
Thank you so much. Just those few words really brightened my day. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 27, 2014, 06:39:07 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on June 26, 2014, 05:00:15 PMSame here. It's just hard to tell anything with that closeup of a photo because the camera distorts your features at close range. In this photo you look Andro to me, or, in that in between stage as Emily stated.
It is a bit strange, but if I saw this pic as Your avatar, I would have assumed that You are FtM going for male presentation...
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 27, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Post by: Chic on June 27, 2014, 09:30:10 PM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on June 27, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10403792_657128207700487_3231941928508726787_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-0/10342451_657128124367162_4998289339467141352_n.jpg)
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Note that I'm just in "guy-mode" in these photos
-Mortified_Penguin
Your eyes are so feminine it's ridiculous. At first glance I thought you were years on hormones, or cis female.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:04:17 PM
Better angle?? ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 27, 2014, 11:07:58 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 27, 2014, 11:07:58 PM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on June 27, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t31.0-8/10403792_657128207700487_3231941928508726787_o.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-0/10342451_657128124367162_4998289339467141352_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/t1.0-0/10329286_657128127700495_4810667394980063823_n.jpg)
Note that I'm just in "guy-mode" in these photos
-Mortified_Penguin
Besides some facial hair, you look so feminine, I'm really jealous and without any make up, I'm like wow ... lucky you
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 27, 2014, 11:07:58 PM
Besides some facial hair, you look so feminine, I'm really jealous and without any make up, I'm like wow ... lucky you
I tend to feel that way about every one here! Dare I say, not fair?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 27, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 27, 2014, 11:22:13 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:20:25 PM
I tend to feel that way about every one here! Dare I say, not fair?
Exactly XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 12:57:18 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 12:57:18 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 27, 2014, 11:04:17 PMIf you don't just have your hair pulled behind your ears (I do that sometime to get mine out of the way of things), might I suggest growing out the sides of your hair more, and grow out your bangs a little past your eyes. Afterward you can go to a salon and get a more feminine hairstyle feathered to shape your face. This will hide your jawline a bit until hrt has a chance to remodel your face in a more feminine manner. Of course a lot depends on genetics, but hrt will most likely narrow your jawline and chin while filling in your cheeks. I think after about 6 months on hrt with the right hairstyle, you'll pass easily. You look young and that's a big plus for your skin which yours should soften nicely.
Better angle?? ???
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1368.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag167%2Fqueenpingo24%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20140627_2257382_zps9c50e554.jpg&hash=5cf80afe74892445f2c08fdacf57add7c7938845)
A more straight on photo in where your looking straight at the camera (but not standing too close to it) would help a little more. Your just getting started Anna, enjoy the ride -Oh and, please don't eat me -I'm old and I would be tough and stringy, lol!!
Best Wishes. :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 02:06:55 PM
Hi Ally, thank you for the tips! That is actuallyma wig I'm wearing as my real hair is horrible. I'm really hoping Finasteride works well for me. Thank you for the compliments as well and saying I look young. I'm actually nearing 30! Still youngnI suppose. And don't worry, I won't eat you ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on June 28, 2014, 06:30:41 PM
Post by: muffinpants on June 28, 2014, 06:30:41 PM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on June 27, 2014, 07:12:05 PM
I would say your top image is pretty furry, hair removal might be hell. But that yellow shirt is hella adorbs ;) hehe but really, you look like you have an awesome starting point!! Already very fem and resemble a few girls I know IRL.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0 a
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 28, 2014, 08:00:35 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on June 28, 2014, 02:06:55 PMI'm intersexed, and had a feminine hair loss pattern before starting my hrt. I was given Avodart (Dutasteride). My hair loss stopped abruptly on the 3rd day and began reversing. It's veeeery expensive though compared to Finasteride, but if you have insurance or can afford it, it wouldn't hurt asking your Endo about. That is, unless your problem isn't that bad. You may do well with Finasteride though.
Hi Ally, thank you for the tips! That is actuallyma wig I'm wearing as my real hair is horrible. I'm really hoping Finasteride works well for me. Thank you for the compliments as well and saying I look young. I'm actually nearing 30! Still youngnI suppose. And don't worry, I won't eat you ;D
Oh and, nice to know that was a wig, lol!
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on June 29, 2014, 01:20:38 AM
Post by: lightvi on June 29, 2014, 01:20:38 AM
Wow, we're on version 3.0 now!
Okay. I don't know how I feel about this but here goes. I should mention I am wearing some makeup but my makeup skills are severely lacking. I'm not sure about this hairstyle either. As you can see in my signature that's how far I am along on HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2FIMG_20140621_161728_zps2125c065.jpg&hash=39f57fcd508ea60c203b7002ae1025d2d04693dc)
Okay. I don't know how I feel about this but here goes. I should mention I am wearing some makeup but my makeup skills are severely lacking. I'm not sure about this hairstyle either. As you can see in my signature that's how far I am along on HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2FIMG_20140621_161728_zps2125c065.jpg&hash=39f57fcd508ea60c203b7002ae1025d2d04693dc)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 29, 2014, 02:31:27 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 29, 2014, 02:31:27 AM
Quote from: lightvi on June 29, 2014, 01:20:38 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2FIMG_20140621_161728_zps2125c065.jpg&hash=39f57fcd508ea60c203b7002ae1025d2d04693dc)
You look ver feminine the only thing that could give you away is the adam's apple, if I was you I would wear something to cover... But yeah its summer so I dont know! Besides that you totally pass even with short hair which is very rare for transexuals
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 04:47:22 AM
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 04:47:22 AM
Ok Tabby's Turn
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1zxbgoi.jpg&hash=c07282d320b56d9fadace15b6d6492c85b921346)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F1zb5lcy.jpg&hash=5cd2f44fcf7d2ab65c76d6f5bfeb2e758207f35f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1zxbgoi.jpg&hash=c07282d320b56d9fadace15b6d6492c85b921346)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 05:10:38 AM
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 05:10:38 AM
Quote from: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 04:47:22 AM
Ok Tabby's Turn
I think you are at a great start considering you're probably pre-hrt. Look into 5 o clock shadow coverage methods, it will help you a lot! Hormones will hopefully do a lot of good for you, keeping my fingers crossed!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
Lol, I am 5 months in
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 06:13:30 AM
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 06:13:30 AM
Quote from: Hermosa_Tabby on June 29, 2014, 05:22:51 AM
Lol, I am 5 months in
That means you're very early on in your transition :) I can tell from my experience that you should observe more and more changes during the course of next year up till three years :) Good luck!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: beren_ts on June 29, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
Post by: beren_ts on June 29, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on June 29, 2014, 02:31:27 AMAdams Apple?? I can't really see it. And by the way everyone has one (myself included). Unless it's really big it shouldn't be a passing problem. Don't listen to those religious fanatics who claim ridiculous things like women don't have adams apples, 1 rib more than men or always have XX chromosomes and can bear children.
You look ver feminine the only thing that could give you away is the adam's apple, if I was you I would wear something to cover... But yeah its summer so I dont know! Besides that you totally pass even with short hair which is very rare for transexuals
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: beren_ts on June 29, 2014, 07:38:58 AM
Post by: beren_ts on June 29, 2014, 07:38:58 AM
Quote from: lightvi on June 29, 2014, 01:20:38 AMI think you look really feminine and cute. :-*
Wow, we're on version 3.0 now!
Okay. I don't know how I feel about this but here goes. I should mention I am wearing some makeup but my makeup skills are severely lacking. I'm not sure about this hairstyle either. As you can see in my signature that's how far I am along on HRT.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2FIMG_20140621_161728_zps2125c065.jpg&hash=39f57fcd508ea60c203b7002ae1025d2d04693dc)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
Post by: crowcrow223 on June 29, 2014, 09:12:02 AM
Quote from: beren on June 29, 2014, 07:35:37 AM
Adams Apple?? I can't really see it. And by the way everyone has one (myself included). Unless it's really big it shouldn't be a passing problem. Don't listen to those religious fanatics who claim ridiculous things like women don't have adams apples, 1 rib more than men or always have XX chromosomes and can bear children.
Well, I don't think my Addam's apple is huge, it is quite pointy though and I did get clocked.
Women may have Addam's apple as well, but it's a lot, lot less prominent, never heard a woman would be called a transsexual because of her tracheal cartilage. Women's larynxes are just built differently
I'm not saying that because I want to bring anyone down, from what I can see lightvi, your addam's apple is nearly non existent, but because it's better to address some issues before going full time
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PM
Post by: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PM
[img]https://flic.kr/p/o7Emfh/img]
[img]https://flic.kr/p/nSecSk/img]
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
[img]https://flic.kr/p/nSecSk/img]
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 29, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 29, 2014, 07:01:07 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PM
[img]https://flic.kr/p/o7Emfh/img]
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
Um yeah you pass. You pass so well its unfair. :p
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:05:04 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PM
https://www.flickr.com/photos/92580608@N08/14515230236/in/photostream/
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
Just a little fix.
And yeah. P.A.S.S.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
Post by: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PMI give up. Does anyone know how to fix this. lol
[img]https://flic.kr/p/o7Emfh/img]
[img]https://flic.kr/p/nSecSk/img]
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:10:40 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:10:40 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14515230236_e75c749aaa_c.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5568/14351893307_97927477e1_c.jpg)
There ya go AMDERS
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5568/14351893307_97927477e1_c.jpg)
There ya go AMDERS
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 29, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on June 29, 2014, 07:13:04 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:10:40 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14515230236_e75c749aaa_c.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5568/14351893307_97927477e1_c.jpg)
There ya go AMDERS
This is the official thread? Well I'm officially jealous. You look 100% female, even from profile.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 29, 2014, 08:33:25 PM
Post by: Chic on June 29, 2014, 08:33:25 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 07:07:08 PM
I give up. Does anyone know how to fix this. lol
DON'T DO THIS TO ME AMDERS
I'M GONNA CRY, I'M TOO JEALOUS ;-;
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 29, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on June 29, 2014, 08:46:49 PM
AMDERS, so darn cute, pretty flawless feminine face and love the hair, looks great on you. :)
I'd be so jealous right now if it weren't for these hormones. I've had a @#$% ass :) on my face all day and feeling really good about myself. No young perfectly cute totally passable cis-girl going to make me jealous, nope. ;D
I'd be so jealous right now if it weren't for these hormones. I've had a @#$% ass :) on my face all day and feeling really good about myself. No young perfectly cute totally passable cis-girl going to make me jealous, nope. ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 30, 2014, 12:20:36 AM
Post by: Allyda on June 30, 2014, 12:20:36 AM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:10:40 PMWoW!, Evelyn you look awesome!! Absolutely stunning!! Such a perfectly shaped face too. I'm super jealous!!
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14515230236_e75c749aaa_c.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5568/14351893307_97927477e1_c.jpg)
There ya go AMDERS
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on June 30, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on June 30, 2014, 12:38:17 AM
Allyda - That's not me you silly cat!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 01:48:20 AM
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 01:48:20 AM
@amders you're really pretty and your skin is flawless! :) gawjus
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:26:42 AM
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:26:42 AM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PM
[img]https://flic.kr/p/o7Emfh/img]
[img]https://flic.kr/p/nSecSk/img]
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
You look like a young Audrey Hepburn or Juliette Binoche. You are tres cute :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
Quote from: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:26:42 AM
You look like a young Audrey Hepburn or Juliette Binoche. You are tres cute :)
Personally I thought she was Carly Rae Jepsen trolling us. XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
Quote from: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:34:10 AM
Personally I thought she was Carly Rae Jepsen trolling us. XD
I have no idea who that it :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:36:37 AM
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:36:37 AM
Quote from: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:35:01 AM
I have no idea who that it :P
Uh, you know, call me maybe?
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Twinsssss
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:46:06 AM
Post by: jname on June 30, 2014, 06:46:06 AM
Quote from: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 06:36:37 AM
Uh, you know, call me maybe?
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Twinsssss
Still no clue sorry :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Bree Serenity on June 30, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Post by: Bree Serenity on June 30, 2014, 08:52:53 AM
Hi, girls. Brand new to SP! Love what I've read so far here. ;D
This is my pic on VS PINK Nation website...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1446693318915812&set=a.1374344789483999.1073741825.100007254720329&type=1&theater
This is my pic on VS PINK Nation website...
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1446693318915812&set=a.1374344789483999.1073741825.100007254720329&type=1&theater
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 30, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on June 30, 2014, 09:43:17 AM
Yeah, I checked into the lipstick on the chin trick and will give it a go next time I am at the store crow crow. Also gettin some laser for the face for my birthday.
My plan with that is to laser is smooth then do electro as it comes back.
My plan with that is to laser is smooth then do electro as it comes back.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Oh my god. You girls are too kind. Thanks for all the nice words. Well I'm planning to go full time at school next towards the end of the year, so I guess I'll use her as makeup inspiration for prom!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on June 30, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Post by: Chic on June 30, 2014, 02:34:03 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 12:41:00 PM
Oh my god. You girls are too kind. Thanks for all the nice words. Well I'm planning to go full time at school next towards the end of the year, so I guess I'll use her as makeup inspiration for prom!
Now you're giving me prom dysphoria, how could you?
My senior prom is next year and to think I'll have to attend presenting as a male or an unpassable female is ;-;
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 04:13:40 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 30, 2014, 02:34:03 PMI think you'd look beautiful all done up for prom. Prom makeup can work wonders. Believe me. I've witnessed it. Not that you'd need it to begin with.
Now you're giving me prom dysphoria, how could you?
My senior prom is next year and to think I'll have to attend presenting as a male or an unpassable female is ;-;
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on June 30, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 30, 2014, 04:29:04 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 29, 2014, 07:10:40 PM
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5509/14515230236_e75c749aaa_c.jpg)
(https://c2.staticflickr.com/6/5568/14351893307_97927477e1_c.jpg)
You look so feminine, are you hormones yet? Like wow xD you definately have no problems passing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on June 30, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
Post by: Allyda on June 30, 2014, 05:22:07 PM
Quote from: Evelyn K on June 30, 2014, 12:38:17 AMOh, sorry Evelyn, and my apologies to who it is. Whoever you are you look great!!
Allyda - That's not me you silly cat!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
Post by: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 07:48:58 PM
Definitely, if you do your hair right you'd already look just like Zooey Deschanel :) you also remind me of Adele somehow. Can you get some more layers put in and change your part maybe? Going big on top will balance your lovely face. All you really need is less fullness at the ends and the bangs and I think you'd pass already! You definitely could not go wrong looking at either of those 2 women for hairstyle ideas. :) good luck!
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
Post by: AMDERS on June 30, 2014, 07:59:54 PM
Quote from: sad panda on June 30, 2014, 07:48:58 PMI second this notion. You look like Zooey Deschanel's cousin. On hormones. Omfg. You'd be a beauty.
Definitely, if you do your hair right you'd already look just like Zooey Deschanel :) you also remind me of Adele somehow. Can you get some more layers put in and change your part maybe? Going big on top will balance your lovely face. All you really need is less fullness at the ends and the bangs and I think you'd pass already! You definitely could not go wrong looking at either of those 2 women for hairstyle ideas. :) good luck!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Post by: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07010_zpsbc21d0ee.jpg&hash=ee7c16561188d6f23195f826cbe15862805d2266)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07024_zps50806c2e.jpg&hash=13dbd158dfcd8f37c7327ef24d5fceec1fe027a5)
Okay at work I've been called a girl more and more public I'm still getting called a guy more often :(. Any help and thoughts would be gratefull
Okay at work I've been called a girl more and more public I'm still getting called a guy more often :(. Any help and thoughts would be gratefull
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on June 30, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
Post by: Alaia on June 30, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
Quote from: AMDERS on June 29, 2014, 06:58:07 PMAre you kidding me?! You don't just pass, you MULTIPASS!
I'm not quite sure if I pass yet. I would appreciate any constructive criticism.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 01, 2014, 12:18:20 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 01, 2014, 12:18:20 AM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PMYou look kind of Andro or in the in between stages. You might try a more feminine hairstyle with bangs that frames your face better. Also a different top like a tank or something more feminine. Jeans and T shirt are what most guys wear. A little eyebrow shaping may help also. Your almost there. How long have you been on hrt?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07010_zpsbc21d0ee.jpg&hash=ee7c16561188d6f23195f826cbe15862805d2266)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07024_zps50806c2e.jpg&hash=13dbd158dfcd8f37c7327ef24d5fceec1fe027a5)
Okay at work I've been called a girl more and more public I'm still getting called a guy more often :(. Any help and thoughts would be gratefull
Best wishes!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 01, 2014, 03:02:56 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 01, 2014, 03:02:56 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 01, 2014, 12:18:20 AMThank you. Hormones since Febuary so four,five months. Hacked my fringe off as a child in a moment of madness and it still has not completley forgiven me. It is just starting to come past my glasses now finally, would probably want a bit more length there before I'm comfortable playing with it
You look kind of Andro or in the in between stages. You might try a more feminine hairstyle with bangs that frames your face better. Also a different top like a tank or something more feminine. Jeans and T shirt are what most guys wear. A little eyebrow shaping may help also. Your almost there. How long have you been on hrt?
Best wishes!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 01, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 01, 2014, 01:14:01 PM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07010_zpsbc21d0ee.jpg&hash=ee7c16561188d6f23195f826cbe15862805d2266)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07024_zps50806c2e.jpg&hash=13dbd158dfcd8f37c7327ef24d5fceec1fe027a5)
Okay at work I've been called a girl more and more public I'm still getting called a guy more often :(. Any help and thoughts would be gratefull
I personally think you look female and would gender you as such if I saw you irl. But there's two things that stand out to me: you seem to be carrying yourself much like a guy still. I think that's what's mostly contributing to the androgynous look. Just loosening up and maybe picking up some more feminine gestures and mannerisms would contribute to your overall presentation.
The other thing is the bewbs. They're probably still growing, but In situations where passing is important, you could wear a padded bra. It think that will also make a big difference :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 02:27:51 PM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07010_zpsbc21d0ee.jpg&hash=ee7c16561188d6f23195f826cbe15862805d2266)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07024_zps50806c2e.jpg&hash=13dbd158dfcd8f37c7327ef24d5fceec1fe027a5)
I would just work on mannerism, the poses of you pictures might add more masculinity and wear more feminine clothes (not just skirts and dresses, even more feminine tops)... Besides this you look beautiful and pass as a woman
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 02:36:11 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 02:36:11 PM
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I was kind of afraid to post here but its ok comments are welcome... I'm not on HRT yet I bought a wig online and its for cosply but whatever I couldn't afford anything more expensive...
While this is me stealing my sister prom dress loool I wish I could wear something like this next year but probably not
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I was kind of afraid to post here but its ok comments are welcome... I'm not on HRT yet I bought a wig online and its for cosply but whatever I couldn't afford anything more expensive...
While this is me stealing my sister prom dress loool I wish I could wear something like this next year but probably not
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F2vl4877.jpg&hash=3a1477bf346580edd4e15f1d6b1ce2a6dbb3537b)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 01, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 01, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on July 01, 2014, 02:36:11 PM
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Wow Emily! You look like you could be Lea Michele Sarfati's younger sister.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 04:20:15 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 01, 2014, 04:20:15 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 01, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
I'm also half italian and part of my family is jewish like her
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Michelle G on July 01, 2014, 05:28:15 PM
Post by: Michelle G on July 01, 2014, 05:28:15 PM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 03, 2014, 06:21:12 AM
People should always be careful when posting images of themselves anywhere on the internet. This site has many genuine people who visit, but there are no doubt those who are here with ulterior motives. There is always a chance someone you would rather not see your photos might see them here (or copied and distributed elsewhere). People should try to ensure that they don't give away identifying information and location with their pics. Many of us look quite different when presenting in our identified gender so to some degree being identified is slightly less of a risk. Regardless, if anyone has doubts about who may ultimately see any pics they post here then they should take extra measures to protect their identity or not post at all. Hope that helps.
That is why I never show my face, to many customers all over the country ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 07:11:44 PM
Quote from: Alaia on June 30, 2014, 10:49:58 PM
Are you kidding me?! You don't just pass, you MULTIPASS!
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HAHA!! :) That's awesome, I love it!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
Ladies, my nerves are bad... I'm not usually posting; I usually like to comment and read everyone else's post. But, I thought I'd give it a go. Honest feedback would be greatly appreciated.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2FFelicityBLee%2F21ba77ee-293a-4956-95bf-49b24e4f940d_zpsd9ef2e80.jpg&hash=fe1c20b2f512a97033ddac9e55939f38e609e0de)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 01, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 01, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
Quote from: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 07:28:19 PM
Ladies, my nerves are bad... I'm not usually posting; I usually like to comment and read everyone else's post. But, I thought I'd give it a go. Honest feedback would be greatly appreciated.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1374.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag419%2FFelicityBLee%2F21ba77ee-293a-4956-95bf-49b24e4f940d_zpsd9ef2e80.jpg&hash=fe1c20b2f512a97033ddac9e55939f38e609e0de)
Damned pretty Felicity, I can't see anything I can pick apart hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Post by: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 01, 2014, 08:20:53 PM
Damned pretty Felicity, I can't see anything I can pick apart hon!
Auntie Shan, you are the best!! Thank you! ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 01, 2014, 08:24:19 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 01, 2014, 08:24:19 PM
Quote from: Felicity on July 01, 2014, 08:23:05 PM
Auntie Shan, you are the best!! Thank you! ;)
I'm probably biased, I saw you as drop deal gorgeous from the get go!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 01, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
Post by: katiej on July 01, 2014, 08:39:32 PM
Quote from: Chic on June 30, 2014, 07:26:49 PM
Still pre-everything, looking for some honest feedback :(
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I'll echo what some others have said. You've got a great head of hair...now it's time to use it to your advantage. I heard someone here say once that 60% of passing is hair, and I think they were right.
Step one is to get a feminine haircut, then learn to style it. Go to a professional and explain your situation...they'll most likely be really helpful. And the next step is makeup. Girls your age shouldn't overdo it, but it's still really important. There's a reason GG's don't leave the house without their makeup and hair done. It's the same for you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: judithlynn on July 02, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Post by: judithlynn on July 02, 2014, 02:45:32 AM
Hi I agree with what Katie said. Fine a nice women's hair dresser and get it cut in as feminine style as possible. Other things you should do is get an eyebrow wax and get the beautician to give you a nice feminine curve. Also a Eyelash Tint (Blue Black is best) will give your eyes more definition.
A little makeup will be good. Girls your age are well into make up. Also don't frown so much , when you smile you look very feminine, not so when you scowl. Also look at the way young girls hold their hands . Some of the pictures highlight the masculine features
JudithLynn
A little makeup will be good. Girls your age are well into make up. Also don't frown so much , when you smile you look very feminine, not so when you scowl. Also look at the way young girls hold their hands . Some of the pictures highlight the masculine features
JudithLynn
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on June 30, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07010_zpsbc21d0ee.jpg&hash=ee7c16561188d6f23195f826cbe15862805d2266)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2FDSC07024_zps50806c2e.jpg&hash=13dbd158dfcd8f37c7327ef24d5fceec1fe027a5)
Okay at work I've been called a girl more and more public I'm still getting called a guy more often :(. Any help and thoughts would be gratefull
I'm telling you, bangs will work wonders! I see a very feminine face with a fairly androgynous hair style. And your hair is long it really stands out. Just give it a try, play around with your hair and try to get some bangs going. Wear a headband if you must. Some eyeliner and a big smile and take a pic. Post a picture if you decide to give it a try. You look great already, just a few minor things I feel could be adjusted. And yes, I know that's Rougue!
Also your stance and posture on the right picture are somewhat masculine. Bring your shoulders down and back a little bit and maybe pop your hip to side a little bit. Dont overdo it, just feel natural with it. Hope this advice has proven useful!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
Post by: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
I think I am going to start looking for a better wig that is closer to my natural hair color. My voice is sounding much more natural these days and I feel that I will be completely comfortable with everything after I don't have such a visible beard shadow (still pre-everything, but starting HRT and LHR in the next couple of weeks)
Do I look female? I still see a guy when I look at myself in pictures even though I think it's definitely improved over the year!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw1tYZ9.jpg&hash=ef97be23a02034e408ea7b22df7761b263f585a5)
Edit: I really need to go clean my mirror... lol
Do I look female? I still see a guy when I look at myself in pictures even though I think it's definitely improved over the year!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw1tYZ9.jpg&hash=ef97be23a02034e408ea7b22df7761b263f585a5)
Edit: I really need to go clean my mirror... lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Quote from: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
I think I am going to start looking for a better wig that is closer to my natural hair color. My voice is sounding much more natural these days and I feel that I will be completely comfortable with everything after I don't have such a visible beard shadow (still pre-everything, but starting HRT and LHR in the next couple of weeks)
Do I look female? I still see a guy when I look at myself in pictures even though I think it's definitely improved over the year!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw1tYZ9.jpg&hash=ef97be23a02034e408ea7b22df7761b263f585a5)
Seems you have a pretty good starting point! Your body shape and posture are really feminine. Its always hard to gauge the face, but I have a feeling hormones will work really well with you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
Post by: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:42:02 AM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 10:25:06 AM
Seems you have a pretty good starting point! Your body shape and posture are really feminine. Its always hard to gauge the face, but I have a feeling hormones will work really well with you.
I hope you are right! I'm eager to feel confident enough to go out of the house... I'm getting close, but think it's going to take a couple of laser hair treatments before I get there.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 02, 2014, 12:12:53 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 02, 2014, 12:12:53 PM
Quote from: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
I think I am going to start looking for a better wig that is closer to my natural hair color. My voice is sounding much more natural these days and I feel that I will be completely comfortable with everything after I don't have such a visible beard shadow (still pre-everything, but starting HRT and LHR in the next couple of weeks)
Do I look female? I still see a guy when I look at myself in pictures even though I think it's definitely improved over the year!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw1tYZ9.jpg&hash=ef97be23a02034e408ea7b22df7761b263f585a5)
Edit: I really need to go clean my mirror... lol
I had no idea, I was under the impression that you had been on HRT for some time already. Either my vision is suffering or you already look pretty good in which case HRT will turn you into a total stunner.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 02, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 02, 2014, 03:31:51 PM
Quote from: FilaFord on July 02, 2014, 10:09:15 AM
I think I am going to start looking for a better wig that is closer to my natural hair color. My voice is sounding much more natural these days and I feel that I will be completely comfortable with everything after I don't have such a visible beard shadow (still pre-everything, but starting HRT and LHR in the next couple of weeks)
Do I look female? I still see a guy when I look at myself in pictures even though I think it's definitely improved over the year!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fvw1tYZ9.jpg&hash=ef97be23a02034e408ea7b22df7761b263f585a5)
Edit: I really need to go clean my mirror... lol
I see a, package! ..... ;)
Fila if this is pre-hrt then I think hormones are going to do you something sort of amazing. That, laser, and some toning up and yeah. Another blond vixen to grace the pages of Susans.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 02, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 02, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
Relaxed guys mode pic.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sad panda on July 02, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
Post by: sad panda on July 02, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
@FilaFord, I think the bit of shadow and the way the fat is on your jawline/chin is a clue, but your wig is pretty fabulous and it helps a lot. I'm not sure what I would think in real life, but from the picture, I do think you probably pass, so with HRT you will be doing great! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 03, 2014, 12:51:53 AM
Post by: katiej on July 03, 2014, 12:51:53 AM
Quote from: sad panda on July 02, 2014, 07:21:11 PM
@FilaFord, I think the bit of shadow and the way the fat is on your jawline/chin is a clue, but your wig is pretty fabulous and it helps a lot. I'm not sure what I would think in real life, but from the picture, I do think you probably pass, so with HRT you will be doing great! :)
I agree. From the nose up you've already got a female look. So some fat redistribution with HRT will definitely help. And of course getting rid of the beard shadow. But you're really in a great starting position!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 07:54:18 AM
Post by: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 07:54:18 AM
So I took a few photos today as I was trying to see how much weight I have lost, thus far 10kg in 7 weeks. I was 110kgs in January and currently just below 96 and still going strong, so chipping away at it. Here is a few boy photos of my face from today it was 5am so I am still tired looking. I know I have stubble and I am still pudgy but what the heck >.<
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 03, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 03, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 02, 2014, 06:39:13 PM
Relaxed guys mode pic.
It's hard to say in your guy mode but you seem to have good features and I don't think you'll have a problem passing when you transition.
Quote from: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 07:54:18 AM
So I took a few photos today as I was trying to see how much weight I have lost, thus far 10kg in 7 weeks. I was 110kgs in January and currently just below 96 and still going strong, so chipping away at it. Here is a few boy photos of my face from today it was 5am so I am still tired looking. I know I have stubble and I am still pudgy but what the heck >.<
I think you look really good. It looks like you did a really good makeup job. From that angle you pass just fine. In the third pic you look like 3 times more feminine when you smile, even with the 5 o'clock shadow (literally 5 o'clock shadow xD).
So here's my current look. I'm dressing somewhat between male and female lately to ease myself into full time female. How do I look here? Do you read me as male or female? Would you say that I pass as female in these? I feel like my hips are a really great asset (something I'm just realizing recently), but I know that alone can't really win the day...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Frw8hxJr.jpg&hash=ab961ee6954601312dedd9666f86904d95683fa5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FBrWlhvw.jpg&hash=08d18137d078df9d6bc7c6341c70436865ac164c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkRE5hgh.jpg&hash=065f171ffed7c1fc5c82d8b318d8b0b7d657ecbe)
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The only thing that stands out to me in these is the shape of my hairline, but I've seen lots of cisgender women with similar hairlines and it doesn't really take away from their feminine appearance, so I'm really unsure...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 03, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 03, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
Quote from: riversong on July 03, 2014, 11:35:34 AM
So here's my current look. I'm dressing somewhat between male and female lately to ease myself into full time female. How do I look here? Do you read me as male or female? Would you say that I pass as female in these? I feel like my hips are a really great asset (something I'm just realizing recently), but I know that alone can't really win the day...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhF0KLjP.jpg&hash=1c4d85209fee7c828d55aec3c8df209620d7fa7c)
The only thing that stands out to me in these is the shape of my hairline, but I've seen lots of cisgender women with similar hairlines and it doesn't really take away from their feminine appearance, so I'm really unsure...
You look more female than male except this one (Oops I see a definite package!) ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 03, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 03, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
Quote from: Shantel on July 03, 2014, 11:41:20 AM
You look more female than male except this one (Oops I see a definite package!) ???
Really? I don't see it :-/ It's probably just the way the jeans are positioned.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 03, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 03, 2014, 12:10:28 PM
Quote from: riversong on July 03, 2014, 11:54:52 AM
Really? I don't see it :-/ It's probably just the way the jeans are positioned.
Don't worry hon, you're coming along nicely!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
Post by: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 06:32:42 PM
@Riversong Thank you for the reply and you look good.
Although I still struggle with my image a lot as I look 100% male and ugly so I tend to never smile if I can. In fact I never smile >.>
I think my big concern other than weight right now is the fact I do not see anything positive in my image, hence the desire to hide. In terms of makeup it is 99% bright light hiding the features as the photo was taken in a white bathroom with a camera flash.
Although I still struggle with my image a lot as I look 100% male and ugly so I tend to never smile if I can. In fact I never smile >.>
I think my big concern other than weight right now is the fact I do not see anything positive in my image, hence the desire to hide. In terms of makeup it is 99% bright light hiding the features as the photo was taken in a white bathroom with a camera flash.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 03, 2014, 06:59:02 PM
Post by: antonia on July 03, 2014, 06:59:02 PM
Quote from: Sarah leah on July 03, 2014, 07:54:18 AM
Lastly here is a very bad photo with fake lashes, dermablend on the eyebrows to give the illusion of thinner ones and the horrible wig of sticky kid fingers I found in the kids dress up box. Obviously it does not fit, but I still thought why not ask anyway, plus there was no kids home today and I had some makeup I found in the box too. The photo is a bit bright so I look a bit pale :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs11.postimg.org%2F5qqf5ijcj%2Fimage.png&hash=4def3a3d8cc821dea822d0204da1fd134a0a6da6)
So as a older pre-hrt person what do you guys think of my structure do you see anything overly male other than stubble that I can build on given I will be slimmer in the face in a few more months?
Good job on the makeup even with the limited resources, if you can look that pretty before HRT I don't think you need to worry. Your facial shape is round and you have a good hairline and a nice smile. If you are able to I would suggest starting to pluck your brows, nobody will notice if you just take it slowly, a couple of hairs at a time over the course of a month or two.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on July 03, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on July 03, 2014, 07:51:36 PM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on July 02, 2014, 09:26:15 AM
I'm telling you, bangs will work wonders! I see a very feminine face with a fairly androgynous hair style. And your hair is long it really stands out. Just give it a try, play around with your hair and try to get some bangs going. Wear a headband if you must. Some eyeliner and a big smile and take a pic. Post a picture if you decide to give it a try. You look great already, just a few minor things I feel could be adjusted. And yes, I know that's Rougue!
Also your stance and posture on the right picture are somewhat masculine. Bring your shoulders down and back a little bit and maybe pop your hip to side a little bit. Dont overdo it, just feel natural with it. Hope this advice has proven useful!
Agreed. Bangs. Do it.
Also, maybe a darker/bolder color for your lips?
-Tegs
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Well, here goes. A little bit of make up (eyeliner, lipstick), padded bra (no much boobs yet :( ), 6ish months HRT.
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 04, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 04, 2014, 12:40:51 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Well, here goes. A little bit of make up (eyeliner, lipstick), padded bra (no much boobs yet :( ), 6ish months HRT.
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Yes, your hairline is noticeable, but you should be happy its not widows peaking. Other than that, you look great. Totally passing and totally beautiful!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PMLooking great Thylacin, Your very pretty with lovely skin, and, it looks like your hair is filling back in. I had some patches of hair loss and I'm at 6 months too, and I'm getting all mine back. It's possible you will too in time.
Well, here goes. A little bit of make up (eyeliner, lipstick), padded bra (no much boobs yet :( ), 6ish months HRT.
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Oh, by the way, where've you been girl? I haven't seen any of your posts in a while?
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:50:30 PM
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:50:30 PM
Quote from: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 12:46:49 PM
Looking great Thylacin, Your very pretty with lovely skin, and, it looks like your hair is filling back in. I had some patches of hair loss and I'm at 6 months too, and I'm getting all mine back. It's possible you will too in time.
Oh, by the way, where've you been girl? I haven't seen any of your posts in a while?
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Thank you :D My hair has regrown some since starting HRT, though my high/squarish hairline bothers me a lot.
I got super busy with college work, then found a lot of local support and came out to most of my meatspace (IRL) friends, so I found myself looking for community and support online less and less, though I still check in and lurk from time to time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 12:52:12 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:50:30 PMWell, glad to have you back -even as a lurker, lol!!
Thank you :D My hair has regrown some since starting HRT, though my high hairline bothers me a lot.
I got super busy with college work, then found a lot of local support and came out to most of my meatspace (IRL) friends, so I found myself looking for community and support online less and less, though I still check in and lurk from time to time.
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 04, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 04, 2014, 01:22:34 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PMyou look very nice
Well, here goes. A little bit of make up (eyeliner, lipstick), padded bra (no much boobs yet :( ), 6ish months HRT.
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:25:53 PM
I haven't posted a picture of myself here for a while now, but I was just walking by the mirror a moment ago, and I noticed my reflection, and... am I crazy, or am I actually starting to look somewhat passable?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5p4g1a4s7%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=ff7fd731b1e03bc7de506e32c37b4d5962646056)
I know there is some room for improvement in the chest department, and I wasn't even wearing makeup or anything like that (which I usually don't), and my face still skews a little masculine, but still... what do you think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5p4g1a4s7%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=ff7fd731b1e03bc7de506e32c37b4d5962646056)
I know there is some room for improvement in the chest department, and I wasn't even wearing makeup or anything like that (which I usually don't), and my face still skews a little masculine, but still... what do you think?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 04, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 04, 2014, 04:27:48 PM
Yep. You look girlish to me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 04, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 04, 2014, 04:28:51 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 12:31:44 PM
Well, here goes. A little bit of make up (eyeliner, lipstick), padded bra (no much boobs yet :( ), 6ish months HRT.
Bleh at my hairline/forehead :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F01_zpsc8b4ed32.jpg&hash=5a2d89501bbae8cbf1ebbb17b6e5cc2c130fbe6d) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1362.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fr697%2FThylacin1%2F938503_zps0428eafd.jpg&hash=c4c8b99ca7b9001638d819520c1fad382cc81028)
Thy = feminine.
Win.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 04, 2014, 04:43:16 PM
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 04, 2014, 04:43:16 PM
Quote from: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:25:53 PMDefinitely starting to pass.
I haven't posted a picture of myself here for a while now, but I was just walking by the mirror a moment ago, and I noticed my reflection, and... am I crazy, or am I actually starting to look somewhat passable?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5p4g1a4s7%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=ff7fd731b1e03bc7de506e32c37b4d5962646056)
I know there is some room for improvement in the chest department, and I wasn't even wearing makeup or anything like that (which I usually don't), and my face still skews a little masculine, but still... what do you think?
I'm not seeing your face. That top draws my eye to your waist and hip area first, so yes very much getting there
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 04, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 04, 2014, 04:45:51 PM
Quote from: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:25:53 PMlooking passable
I haven't posted a picture of myself here for a while now, but I was just walking by the mirror a moment ago, and I noticed my reflection, and... am I crazy, or am I actually starting to look somewhat passable?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5p4g1a4s7%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=ff7fd731b1e03bc7de506e32c37b4d5962646056)
I know there is some room for improvement in the chest department, and I wasn't even wearing makeup or anything like that (which I usually don't), and my face still skews a little masculine, but still... what do you think?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
Thank god it's not just my imagination. :D
Which actually makes me wonder, because I really got too late of a start to be able to expect much hip bone growth, and I haven't had that much fat redistribution yet. Maybe my jeans are just helping to highlight my figure a bit?
Quote from: immortal gypsy on July 04, 2014, 04:43:16 PM
Definitely starting to pass.
I'm not seeing your face. That top draws my eye to your waist and hip area first, so yes very much getting there
Which actually makes me wonder, because I really got too late of a start to be able to expect much hip bone growth, and I haven't had that much fat redistribution yet. Maybe my jeans are just helping to highlight my figure a bit?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
Quote from: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:52:41 PM
Thank god it's not just my imagination. :D
Which actually makes me wonder, because I really got too late of a start to be able to expect much hip bone growth, and I haven't had that much fat redistribution yet. Maybe my jeans are just helping to highlight my figure a bit?
You look great. Your face looks feminine, but it's hard to tell because it's a bit obscured :).
Your hips might just be on the wider side. I don't think any hip bone growth can be expected from HRT.
Jeans might be helping. I know they help highlight my figure a bit when I wear them. Even subtle fat redistribution can help too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
Post by: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
Also, you have such wonderfully thick hair. I'm jealous ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Post by: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 06:48:10 PM
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 05:43:23 PM
You look great. Your face looks feminine, but it's hard to tell because it's a bit obscured :).
Your hips might just be on the wider side. I don't think any hip bone growth can be expected from HRT.
Jeans might be helping. I know they help highlight my figure a bit when I wear them. Even subtle fat redistribution can help too.
My hips have always been wide for a male, but still, I never really looked like I had much of a feminine figure before either...
Quote from: Thylacin on July 04, 2014, 06:17:10 PM
Also, you have such wonderfully thick hair. I'm jealous ;)
It's an optical illusion, which can only be achieved through careful and deliberate use of hair spray. ;) Lol, but really, my hair was very thick when I was a teenager, but starting at 18 I started experiencing diffuse thinning and recession. Years of minoxidil and anti-androgens have brought it back somewhat, but it's still noticeably thin when I don't do anything with it. Well not thin as in, practically a step away from being bald or anything, but well below average thickness compared to what many women have. Still, I am very glad to have what I have, because I don't think I would have been able to emotionally cope with being bald. I was already near my breaking point when decided to start taking anti-androgens...
Anyway, thanks for the compliment regardless. ;) I do a lot of things with my appearance to make it look like I'm not trying very hard, but it does take some effort for me to look as good as I did in that picture. Between the ridiculously close shaving, the liberal use of concealer, the meticulous body hair removal, and the careful use of hairspray, I spend a ton of time just to basically look like an average looking girl who can't even be bothered to wear makeup...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
Quote from: Miyuki on July 04, 2014, 04:25:53 PMYou definitely have a feminine shape going on. I don't know your status, but you might try a different more feminine outfit and have your hair styled to frame your face better. Other than that your on your way girl!
I haven't posted a picture of myself here for a while now, but I was just walking by the mirror a moment ago, and I noticed my reflection, and... am I crazy, or am I actually starting to look somewhat passable?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs21.postimg.org%2F5p4g1a4s7%2Fphoto.jpg&hash=ff7fd731b1e03bc7de506e32c37b4d5962646056)
I know there is some room for improvement in the chest department, and I wasn't even wearing makeup or anything like that (which I usually don't), and my face still skews a little masculine, but still... what do you think?
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 04, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Post by: katiej on July 04, 2014, 07:49:55 PM
Quote from: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 07:21:03 PM
You definitely have a feminine shape going on. I don't know your status, but you might try a different more feminine outfit and have your hair styled to frame your face better. Other than that your on your way girl!
I was going to comment on the hair as well. A more feminine hairstyle would make a huge difference. I heard someone say that 60% of passing is hair...and I agree.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 04, 2014, 10:03:27 PM
Quote from: katiej on July 04, 2014, 07:49:55 PMIt does make a big difference. But it's not everything. I think, and this is only my opinion, that it is the package as a whole that matters. You can have a few flaws, like me with my awful voice, but still pass very easily if the package as a whole projects femininity. Just my .02 girls, so don't take it to heart as I'm no expert. I can only base things on my own past experience.
I was going to comment on the hair as well. A more feminine hairstyle would make a huge difference. I heard someone say that 60% of passing is hair...and I agree.
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 05, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
Post by: kasika on July 05, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I rarely get any replies but ima try one more time.
1½ month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg103.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F2%2F9%2Fc%2F2014_07_03-4682e03.jpg&hash=a5da235918810dffea906540ffd1e90f7f2a11e4)
1½ month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg103.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F2%2F9%2Fc%2F2014_07_03-4682e03.jpg&hash=a5da235918810dffea906540ffd1e90f7f2a11e4)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 05, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 05, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
Quote from: kasika on July 05, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I rarely get any replies but ima try one more time.
1½ month on HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg103.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F2%2F9%2Fc%2F2014_07_03-4682e03.jpg&hash=a5da235918810dffea906540ffd1e90f7f2a11e4)
:o maybe people just aren't replying because they think you're in the wrong place. You look totally cis :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 05, 2014, 11:46:38 AM
Post by: katiej on July 05, 2014, 11:46:38 AM
It's tough to tell with your hair pulled back, but I think you're in pretty good shape. I really envy your hairline...like a lot!
And a few more months of HRT and you'll probably see some real differences.
A fem hairstyle and makeup would make a huge difference in your presentation. And I'm not suggesting you go overboard...but at least some basic eye makeup, brow definition, and lips. There's a reason GG's don't leave the house without their hair and makeup done.
And a few more months of HRT and you'll probably see some real differences.
A fem hairstyle and makeup would make a huge difference in your presentation. And I'm not suggesting you go overboard...but at least some basic eye makeup, brow definition, and lips. There's a reason GG's don't leave the house without their hair and makeup done.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JenP on July 05, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
Post by: JenP on July 05, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
Hey Ladies,
I started in the FFS forum since that is my next big concern, but I'm trying to venture out a bit from there. I would love to hear any opinions or suggestions. I'm 28 with 5 mos on HRT-
Here is one of my favorite pictures from about a month ago-
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlxjyYHS.jpg&hash=ff11f17f74b66736c7e340ef4635e93e21a56e7b)
Here is from this morning on my way to the gym with no makeup or hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJwuk96Z.jpg&hash=d755df7571ecdcab89208c619930b4af62ba3062)
I know I still have a lot of male features left, but I'm hoping FFS (this Dec) and HRT will fix all of that.
I started in the FFS forum since that is my next big concern, but I'm trying to venture out a bit from there. I would love to hear any opinions or suggestions. I'm 28 with 5 mos on HRT-
Here is one of my favorite pictures from about a month ago-
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlxjyYHS.jpg&hash=ff11f17f74b66736c7e340ef4635e93e21a56e7b)
Here is from this morning on my way to the gym with no makeup or hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJwuk96Z.jpg&hash=d755df7571ecdcab89208c619930b4af62ba3062)
I know I still have a lot of male features left, but I'm hoping FFS (this Dec) and HRT will fix all of that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 12:18:51 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 12:18:51 PM
Quote from: JenP on July 05, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJwuk96Z.jpg&hash=d755df7571ecdcab89208c619930b4af62ba3062)
I know I still have a lot of male features left, but I'm hoping FFS (this Dec) and HRT will fix all of that.
You're going to do fine Jen, you have youth and not overly masculine features to overcome. I've seen some pretty hopeless cases here have miraculous transitions and so needless to say you are already way ahead of that curve right from the start. Welcome to the MtF forum hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Eris on July 05, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
Post by: Eris on July 05, 2014, 12:25:23 PM
I honestly thought that that was your real hair in your first picture. I was thinking "why did she cut it off..."
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 02:50:04 PM
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 02:50:04 PM
I've been on hormones for a little over a year, and I felt like it was going really well until about eight or nine months ago things seemed to start going in reverse. I feel like I went back to looking like I did before I even started, and it's really upsetting me.
Me eight months ago -> me now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F9Y9Rj%2F9e75285bc2.png&hash=e54e5657e45bfcedf60a6f129f8315df11e06897)
Am I imagining things? Is something going on? Should I ask my doctor about insensitivity?
Me eight months ago -> me now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F9Y9Rj%2F9e75285bc2.png&hash=e54e5657e45bfcedf60a6f129f8315df11e06897)
Am I imagining things? Is something going on? Should I ask my doctor about insensitivity?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 02:50:04 PM
I've been on hormones for a little over a year, and I felt like it was going really well until about eight or nine months ago things seemed to start going in reverse. I feel like I went back to looking like I did before I even started, and it's really upsetting me.
Me eight months ago -> me now
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpuu.sh%2F9Y9Rj%2F9e75285bc2.png&hash=e54e5657e45bfcedf60a6f129f8315df11e06897)
Am I imagining things? Is something going on? Should I ask my doctor about insensitivity?
I can't tell from the photos, you look rather petite and your face is angular, have you lost weight since you started? What is your height and weight?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 03:05:00 PM
I can't tell from the photos, you look rather petite and your face is angular, have you lost weight since you started? What is your height and weight?
I'm 5'7" and right now I weigh about 115 pounds. When I took the first picture I think I weighed 125 pounds.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 05, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 05, 2014, 03:19:47 PM
Badsamaritan it looks like you started out with a very feminine facial structure . I think your fat is just redistributing . You look very feminine
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 05, 2014, 03:31:28 PM
Post by: katiej on July 05, 2014, 03:31:28 PM
Badsamaritan, short blunt bangs are stark and not every cis girl can pull them off. They seem to frame your face in a way that accentuates your angular features. I bet you'd still look like the before picture if you went with a side swept bang or pulled them up with a bobby pin.
The slight mustache shadow is the only thing I noticed. Are you doing anything about that? Otherwise, I see no major issues.
And are you planning to grow your hair out? I'd kill to have a hairline like you! :)
Quote from: JenP on July 05, 2014, 11:58:17 AM
Hey Ladies,
I started in the FFS forum since that is my next big concern, but I'm trying to venture out a bit from there. I would love to hear any opinions or suggestions. I'm 28 with 5 mos on HRT-
Here is one of my favorite pictures from about a month ago-
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlxjyYHS.jpg&hash=ff11f17f74b66736c7e340ef4635e93e21a56e7b)
Here is from this morning on my way to the gym with no makeup or hair.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJwuk96Z.jpg&hash=d755df7571ecdcab89208c619930b4af62ba3062)
I know I still have a lot of male features left, but I'm hoping FFS (this Dec) and HRT will fix all of that.
The slight mustache shadow is the only thing I noticed. Are you doing anything about that? Otherwise, I see no major issues.
And are you planning to grow your hair out? I'd kill to have a hairline like you! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JenP on July 05, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
Post by: JenP on July 05, 2014, 03:46:33 PM
Katie,
The shadow is from my laser treatment. Just had my 6th one 2 days ago and it always looks bad for a few days after. In a few days it should be gone again and I still plan on doing another 4 treatments just to make sure nothing has a chance to grow.
I would kill to be able to grow my hair out, but unfortunately I can't because of my job situation. One day though. Until then I have to keep it short. And thank you for the compliment. I plan on getting my hairline lowered soon.
The shadow is from my laser treatment. Just had my 6th one 2 days ago and it always looks bad for a few days after. In a few days it should be gone again and I still plan on doing another 4 treatments just to make sure nothing has a chance to grow.
I would kill to be able to grow my hair out, but unfortunately I can't because of my job situation. One day though. Until then I have to keep it short. And thank you for the compliment. I plan on getting my hairline lowered soon.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:25:55 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:25:55 PM
Quote from: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 03:07:49 PM
I'm 5'7" and right now I weigh about 115 pounds. When I took the first picture I think I weighed 125 pounds.
I think the weight loss is giving you a severely angular face and a boney look and even 125 lbs is too light for a cis female with medium sized bone structure which should be more like 133 lbs and the weight for a genetic male at 5'7" should be around 145, you would probably be safe to take an average of both numbers and make that your targeted weight gain. Your current weight is very unhealthy. I'm not being critical just helpful and want you to be a healthy girl. If you're having an eating disorder get some professional help.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
Post by: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:25:55 PM
I think the weight loss is giving you a severely angular face and a boney look and even 125 lbs is too light for a cis female with medium sized bone structure which should be more like 133 lbs and the weight for a genetic male at 5'7" should be around 145, you would probably be safe to take an average of both numbers and make that your targeted weight gain. Your current weight is very unhealthy. I'm not being critical just helpful and want you to be a healthy girl. If you're having an eating disorder get some professional help.
I do have problems with eating, but previous attempts to work with mental health professionals have gone badly and I don't have the resources to try again right now. Thanks for the advice.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:32:17 PM
Quote from: badsamaritan on July 05, 2014, 05:29:10 PM
I do have problems with eating, but previous attempts to work with mental health professionals have gone badly and I don't have the resources to try again right now. Thanks for the advice.
Sometimes eating a meal at one sitting is too difficult for some, try and graze all day and into the evening and take in some healthy nourishing things, your weight will improve. I tend to be the other way, so I'd love to be able to split the difference with you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 05, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
Post by: kasika on July 05, 2014, 09:00:16 PM
Quote from: riversong on July 05, 2014, 11:21:39 AM
:o maybe people just aren't replying because they think you're in the wrong place. You look totally cis :)
I wish that was the case :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 06, 2014, 06:28:37 PM
Post by: Umiko on July 06, 2014, 06:28:37 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_181045_zpsf8704df7.jpg&hash=c077e141834e41295a29ce4eeb04d1abdf3f3504) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_181045_zpsf8704df7.jpg.html)
i'm looking more like my twin sister. thoughts? lol
i'm looking more like my twin sister. thoughts? lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 06, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 06, 2014, 09:34:39 PM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 06, 2014, 06:28:37 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_181045_zpsf8704df7.jpg&hash=c077e141834e41295a29ce4eeb04d1abdf3f3504) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_181045_zpsf8704df7.jpg.html)
i'm looking more like my twin sister. thoughts? lol
You might get a photo with your glasses off and your hand out of the way because they obscure a lot of your features.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 06, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
Post by: Umiko on July 06, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg&hash=3a5cfad270c9550b977581dff33dd2781acdc9f4) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg&hash=b8063f184f5686a25058f178184d457f0c674c02) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg.html)
is this better of a view? lol
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg&hash=b8063f184f5686a25058f178184d457f0c674c02) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg.html)
is this better of a view? lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 01:06:34 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 01:06:34 AM
Quote from: Shantel on July 05, 2014, 05:25:55 PMI'm forced to agree with Auntie Shan on this one. Your weight loss has given you an angular face. I'm thin too and I myself have to watch how much weight I lose, and, if I need to lose it has to be done healthily. That means eating right and exercise. Not starving myself. I have a very thin delicate bone structure and small frame so your current weight is actually right for me and close to what I weigh now. But I'm also only 5-5. Losing too much weight on hrt will hurt breast growth too, as well as fat redistribution. While I don't know if it will work for you. But I eat 6 small meals per day. If I tried to eat just 3 larger meals per day like most people I'll throw up losing everything. But if I break everything down into 6 small meals per day I seem to have no problem keeping everything. It's just a suggestion, nothing more. something you could look into.
I think the weight loss is giving you a severely angular face and a boney look and even 125 lbs is too light for a cis female with medium sized bone structure which should be more like 133 lbs and the weight for a genetic male at 5'7" should be around 145, you would probably be safe to take an average of both numbers and make that your targeted weight gain. Your current weight is very unhealthy. I'm not being critical just helpful and want you to be a healthy girl. If you're having an eating disorder get some professional help.
I don't have any idea of what your ideal weight should be. I don't know your bone structure. But for an average female of 5-7 133 sounds about right. And 155 for a male of 5-7 sounds close.
I wish you my very best
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 05:52:58 PM
Quote from: Genzen on July 07, 2014, 03:38:24 PMI like the dress. As for your hair you could try using a flat iron to straighten it out a bit. Other products are available but I don't recommend them because of how harsh they are on your hair. A $20. flat iron should work nicely for you.
It's been awhile since I've posted here. I've been trying to tackle my dysphoria with only therapy, styling and makeup thus far. I feel like I've made important progress mentally, but still don't feel content yet. I do enjoy the changes I see but feel like it's pretty obvious that I'm a guy still. I really don't get any feedback when I'm out so I have no idea whats up. I'm guess most people just see me as a feminine guy and living in a fairly liberal town nobody bats and eye and goes about their business. Could I be correct? I know I need to get better at beard cover up and keep letting my hair grow, being 35 and no HRT makes for slow going though...
Not my ideal clothing choices, but what I wore today, (Would rather wear this http://imgur.com/a/0wP4r)
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Best Wishes
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
Post by: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
Quote from: kasika on July 05, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I rarely get any replies but ima try one more time.
1½ month on HRT
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I would say you would benefit from volume in your hair, bangs more femme accessories (glasses, earrings, etc.) and some make up. boom, sorted :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 07, 2014, 07:21:45 PM
Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PMAgreed. Accessories are a must ie: bracelets, earrings, necklaces, and what Kira said about your hair. Your local salon should be able to help you out in that department. As for the glasses I've never needed them so it'd be hard for me to advise you there.
I would say you would benefit from volume in your hair, bangs more femme accessories (glasses, earrings, etc.) and some make up. boom, sorted :-)
Best wishes
Ally :icon_flower:
P,S: Kira I'm happy to see your now part of the news staff!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 07, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 07, 2014, 09:13:06 PM
Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PMGlasses: Have a look at ones with coloured frames, or a pair with thicker arms
I would say you would benefit from volume in your hair, bangs more femme accessories (glasses, earrings, etc.) and some make up. boom, sorted :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 07, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 07, 2014, 09:31:13 PM
Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
I would say you would benefit from volume in your hair, bangs more femme accessories (glasses, earrings, etc.) and some make up. boom, sorted :-)
I don't knwo about make up... I usually advice it but you look very feminine natural so yeah it's up to you! Is it just me or your hair seem wet in the picture? Maybe when they are dry, then they look more volumized, if not just try some productsm for that, but definately more femme earing and glasses!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Post by: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Quote from: kira21 ♡♡♡ on July 07, 2014, 06:37:20 PM
I would say you would benefit from volume in your hair, bangs more femme accessories (glasses, earrings, etc.) and some make up. boom, sorted :-)
Hair is a big issue as i am balding on top. HRT seems to be fixing that but time will tell if ill ever get to a point where it's passable :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH6r62fJ.jpg&hash=1265822cb8a8b7d0d2a7510a9486530c81813c06)
So right now i wear a headscarf everytime i go out.
And makeup is not something i can afford right now sadly due to a lack of a job. wish i could, would love to experiment!
Thx for the feedback!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 12:36:31 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 12:36:31 AM
Quote from: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PMHave you tried a wig? Some of them are very nice and they're of good quality made of human hair. You could use it until your own hair comes back in thick enough. Just a thought.
Hair is a big issue as i am balding on top. HRT seems to be fixing that but time will tell if ill ever get to a point where it's passable :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH6r62fJ.jpg&hash=1265822cb8a8b7d0d2a7510a9486530c81813c06)
So right now i wear a headscarf everytime i go out.
And makeup is not something i can afford right now sadly due to a lack of a job. wish i could, would love to experiment!
Thx for the feedback!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 08, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
Post by: kasika on July 08, 2014, 08:12:38 AM
I tried wigs before and they just made me feel even more fake inside.
1½ month on HRT and i think its starting to grow back. I know it'll never be back to what it was pre-balding but ill see afterwards.
1½ month on HRT and i think its starting to grow back. I know it'll never be back to what it was pre-balding but ill see afterwards.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 08, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Post by: katiej on July 08, 2014, 09:07:54 AM
Quote from: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Hair is a big issue as i am balding on top. HRT seems to be fixing that but time will tell if ill ever get to a point where it's passable :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH6r62fJ.jpg&hash=1265822cb8a8b7d0d2a7510a9486530c81813c06)
So right now i wear a headscarf everytime i go out.
And makeup is not something i can afford right now sadly due to a lack of a job. wish i could, would love to experiment!
Thx for the feedback!
I've got some bad news...HRT can help a bit, but not usually when the hair loss has reached that stage. Hair transplants may be an option for you, though.
But Ally's right, a wig is your best option. There are plenty of trans girls who have to wear one.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on July 08, 2014, 09:30:35 AM
Post by: Brenda E on July 08, 2014, 09:30:35 AM
Quote from: kasika on July 08, 2014, 08:12:38 AM1½ month on HRT and i think its starting to grow back. I know it'll never be back to what it was pre-balding but ill see afterwards.
In the same boat and hoping that my bald spots will recover. I'm not holding my breath though: even after six months of minoxidil, finisteride and a couple of months of spiro, the recovery is as slow as the US economy. :'(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 08, 2014, 10:03:52 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 08, 2014, 10:03:52 AM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 06, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg&hash=3a5cfad270c9550b977581dff33dd2781acdc9f4) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg&hash=b8063f184f5686a25058f178184d457f0c674c02) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg.html)
is this better of a view? lol
I think you're getting there but in my opinion your hair is too short. Other than that, I don't see anything in particular that reads male, and your lips are totally feminine :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 10:17:01 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 10:17:01 AM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 06, 2014, 09:54:27 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg&hash=3a5cfad270c9550b977581dff33dd2781acdc9f4) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225000_zps83b4cdcf.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg&hash=b8063f184f5686a25058f178184d457f0c674c02) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140706_225328_zps12219ac1.jpg.html)
is this better of a view? lol
There that's better Brianna, you have a nice shaped face generally and your full lips can be pretty sexy. You will probably have to look at some of those online eyebrow shaping tutorials and gradually shape them. You might need a little FFS some day, it's hard to tell in a straight on photo what the extent of your brow bossing might be, a side photo would expose any problem there, you know what I'm referring to, that kind of Neanderthal brow ridge that some of us get as a result of testosterone. I like your little ears, they are cute and set close to your head. Grow your hair out sweetie, if I was of your ethnicity I'd do for a real feminine afro, they look great and are pretty low maintenance and seem to be coming back into style.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 08, 2014, 12:24:19 PM
Post by: Umiko on July 08, 2014, 12:24:19 PM
i just woke up so i didnt do my normal morning routine and yes i know, it looks like my head is to big for my neck but in actuality i have a very small skull o:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg&hash=e67331151dfdaefa2f5ad32ae4ff2ce67c8982c2) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg&hash=e67331151dfdaefa2f5ad32ae4ff2ce67c8982c2) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 08, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 08, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
Full on girl mode. Makeup done. What do yall think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Ft0rnll.jpg&hash=b07bf9f6b1de40bb184bf76cd885f4b71e027d23)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on July 08, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Post by: Chic on July 08, 2014, 03:54:22 PM
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 08, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
Full on girl mode. Makeup done. What do yall think?
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If you shape your eyebrows, style your hair to give the illusion of more fullness and thickness (or wear a wig to see what you'd look like with long hair), smile, and you'll pass a lot better! FFS is a last resort option. You look great already, though! (:
Also, full on bangs would compliment you too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 08, 2014, 04:07:43 PM
Post by: katiej on July 08, 2014, 04:07:43 PM
I was going to say the same thing as Chic. Your eyebrows are giving you away. And a more female hairstyle with a bit more volume and length would make a difference.
Her point about smiling is important too. Women smile a lot more than men. And they usually tilt their heads slightly when taking pictures.
Her point about smiling is important too. Women smile a lot more than men. And they usually tilt their heads slightly when taking pictures.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 05:27:10 PM
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 08, 2014, 02:14:15 PM
Full on girl mode. Makeup done. What do yall think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Ft0rnll.jpg&hash=b07bf9f6b1de40bb184bf76cd885f4b71e027d23)
Smile. Very important. Don't look so darned stiff either, that's the stance of a man. Loosen up, relax, smile pretty. Your face looks dead serious, like dude, don't dare piss me off or I'll kick your ass type look. And yeah, eyebrows need some plucking (don't do this yourself unless totally confident in your abilities to shape them right). Okay said it. I was avoiding posting in this topic for a bit, but the lack of smiles here I couldn't not say anything for long. There are ways to take pics without smiling with your mouth too, its all about relaxing, think about something nice and fluffy, awe cute little bunny rabbit! Sometimes the inner smile will radiate out showing a soft gentleness on your face and in your eyes. I don't see any of that here. Being a girl is a tricky thing, took me years, I think I finally got much of it down just this year.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 05:46:50 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 05:46:50 PM
Quote from: kasika on July 05, 2014, 11:05:12 AM
I rarely get any replies but ima try one more time.
1½ month on HRT
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You look fine to me, serious, like any other big girl out there. At least from that pic. I always think, there's always potential with weight, because you already have the fat, so no hard edges, no veiny arms, adam's apple not visible, but you want to really feminize, get made up, a little bit of make-up, and get some style to that hair, put on something pretty (even if you are happy with your tee shirt) but not overly fanciful and if HRT kicks in well for you, you could be rather pretty.
Okay, seen latest post, ouch (my greatest fear ever since before starting hormones myself, I don't want to ever go bald!), okay, then a pretty wig will have to do, but something real. Sorry ('bout the hair). :-\
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 06:15:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 06:15:29 PM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 08, 2014, 12:24:19 PM
i just woke up so i didnt do my normal morning routine and yes i know, it looks like my head is to big for my neck but in actuality i have a very small skull o:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg&hash=e67331151dfdaefa2f5ad32ae4ff2ce67c8982c2) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140708_132045_zpse212e624.jpg.html)
I think your head is not at all too big, your neck is fine too and I don't see any evidence of your adam's apple so that's a plus. I don't see any problem with brow bossing either, if there is any then it's no big deal and something that can easily be concealed with makeup. I think your jawbone is a bit masculine, that corner below your ear can be softened via FFS, something that is quite common. Best plan though is to not rush into anything and see what kind of effects HRT has on your overall facial contours, you might be surprised.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 06:30:58 PM
Quote from: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Hair is a big issue as i am balding on top. HRT seems to be fixing that but time will tell if ill ever get to a point where it's passable :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH6r62fJ.jpg&hash=1265822cb8a8b7d0d2a7510a9486530c81813c06)
So right now i wear a headscarf everytime i go out.
And makeup is not something i can afford right now sadly due to a lack of a job. wish i could, would love to experiment!
Thx for the feedback!
The hard truth is that one of the side effects of testosterone is that it morphs into dihydrotestosterone which kills hair follicles on a genetic male head, along with genetic propensities for male pattern baldness there is no hope that it will ever grow back. Trust me on this, I have the tonsured look of a Franciscan monk myself and it's why I wear a cap. There are some wonderful wigs available and you would be surprised at how many of the real beauties that post here on the fabulous thread that are actually wearing wigs. I have seen some horribly cheap looking wigs and some very beautiful ones on MtF women, best to talk to a wig specialist for what type and style would work best taking your face and head size into consideration. Really serious transitioners may have several wigs.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 08, 2014, 06:32:12 PM
Post by: Umiko on July 08, 2014, 06:32:12 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 08, 2014, 06:15:29 PMi was leaning over so i had my chin pointed. i'll see if i can do a straight side shot
I think your head is not at all too big, your neck is fine too and I don't see any evidence of your adam's apple so that's a plus. I don't see any problem with brow bossing either, if there is any then it's no big deal and something that can easily be concealed with makeup. I think your jawbone is a bit masculine, that corner below your ear can be softened via FFS, something that is quite common. Best plan though is to not rush into anything and see what kind of effects HRT has on your overall facial contours, you might be surprised.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on July 08, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on July 08, 2014, 07:42:01 PM
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on July 08, 2014, 02:14:15 PM'
Full on girl mode. Makeup done. What do yall think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2Ft0rnll.jpg&hash=b07bf9f6b1de40bb184bf76cd885f4b71e027d23)
You're looking more and more fem! Good for you. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: CrissyMarie on July 08, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
Post by: CrissyMarie on July 08, 2014, 07:42:41 PM
MMm..k so here is me at current. 4 mo. HRT and I will go ahead and admit that last sunday for the first time, I went full time all weekend in a very busy tourist town, used my "correct" bathroom as well, with other girls and wasn't called out or stared at. But, I still feel nervous inside even though I tried hard to assert confidence. ::) I'm getting there though, lol.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F6sxwmf.jpg&hash=bee1204d7f76b742f1dcf87c1b6b047fb8e01504)
2nd pic is from my 3rd mo. on HRT
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3rd pic is from motel room as I was getting ready for my evening stroll with friends in St.Augustine, FL
on Saturday.
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2nd pic is from my 3rd mo. on HRT
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3rd pic is from motel room as I was getting ready for my evening stroll with friends in St.Augustine, FL
on Saturday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F15gtv0y.jpg&hash=a52ced6609dcb1715d9422c4e7d08c9eb1da5e9d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
Quote from: CrissyMarie on July 08, 2014, 07:42:41 PMFor only 4 months you look awesome. You've a very feminine body shame. Nice legs and hips. And your very pretty now, but once that hair grows out girl, your gonna need a stick or a body guard to keep em off ya!
MMm..k so here is me at current. 4 mo. HRT and I will go ahead and admit that last sunday for the first time, I went full time all weekend in a very busy tourist town, used my "correct" bathroom as well, with other girls and wasn't called out or stared at. But, I still feel nervous inside even though I tried hard to assert confidence. ::) I'm getting there though, lol.
3rd pic is from motel room as I was getting ready for my evening stroll with friends in St.Augustine, FL
on Saturday.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F15gtv0y.jpg&hash=a52ced6609dcb1715d9422c4e7d08c9eb1da5e9d)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on July 08, 2014, 09:03:07 PM
Post by: Sincerely Tegan on July 08, 2014, 09:03:07 PM
Okay, it's been a while since I've been active, but I hope to change that starting now.
Anyway, still pre-HRT, but getting more confident with makeup. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, please?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg&hash=988cfd454af2fb1a0a6600b6e552abf13a5384cc) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FB51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg&hash=b6b290f4fa6594cd3cf8dd04a1c8f95e4996945b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/B51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg&hash=c4f81acd67900e4177428ab101753a83037fca9f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg.html)
Hugs,
Tegan
Anyway, still pre-HRT, but getting more confident with makeup. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, please?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg&hash=988cfd454af2fb1a0a6600b6e552abf13a5384cc) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FB51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg&hash=b6b290f4fa6594cd3cf8dd04a1c8f95e4996945b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/B51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg&hash=c4f81acd67900e4177428ab101753a83037fca9f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg.html)
Hugs,
Tegan
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 09:13:58 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 09:13:58 PM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on July 08, 2014, 09:03:07 PMYou look very nice Tegan. You've a great canvas for hrt to sculpt into a very beautiful woman. Another hottie on here! I think I'm gonna lose my mind!, lol!! Y'all make this old girl way too jealous!
Okay, it's been a while since I've been active, but I hope to change that starting now.
Anyway, still pre-HRT, but getting more confident with makeup. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, please?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg&hash=988cfd454af2fb1a0a6600b6e552abf13a5384cc) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FB51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg&hash=b6b290f4fa6594cd3cf8dd04a1c8f95e4996945b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/B51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg&hash=c4f81acd67900e4177428ab101753a83037fca9f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg.html)
Hugs,
Tegan
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aina on July 08, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
Post by: Aina on July 08, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
Quote from: kasika on July 07, 2014, 10:55:53 PM
Hair is a big issue as i am balding on top. HRT seems to be fixing that but time will tell if ill ever get to a point where it's passable :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FH6r62fJ.jpg&hash=1265822cb8a8b7d0d2a7510a9486530c81813c06)
So right now i wear a headscarf everytime i go out.
And makeup is not something i can afford right now sadly due to a lack of a job. wish i could, would love to experiment!
Thx for the feedback!
You could also try getting Propecia which may help. I am currently trying to get my doctor to prescribe me some, since I have pretty bad receding hairline and I am trying to save my hair before it gets to rough...plus Propecia blocks DHT and Propecia's side effects have been know to "help" with Feminization.
I figured if in the end if it comes to it, I may just shave it all off. The nice thing is with wigs you can easily change your hair style, and as people stated above a lot of them look really good and impossible to tell they are wigs.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 08, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 08, 2014, 10:59:34 PM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on July 08, 2014, 09:03:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FB51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg&hash=b6b290f4fa6594cd3cf8dd04a1c8f95e4996945b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/B51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg.html)
Hello Tegan! You look very feminine, and HRT will make you even more feminine :3 and I bet you will have no problems passing. As suggetion goes, you shouldn't wear such a long shirt whith a skirt like that, because it eliminates your hips and you want to accentuate them (even though you will start with great hips already and HRT will make them even wider :3), but I understand that it's hard to wear pants if you can't tuck well (I can't for example, and I'm pre HRT myself), so yeah the only thing is that I htink you would look better with the shirt inside the skirt. Maybe wear earing too, with short hair it's easier to pass with earings :) but you look lovely already
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ashrock on July 08, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
Post by: ashrock on July 08, 2014, 11:29:59 PM
Alright, another go at this... Finally rather happy with how my makeup turned out:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAPGJdIF.jpg&hash=948eb7bdf74d41dcff48f6ba5c41e3b1bbccfb85) (http://imgur.com/APGJdIF)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmVpC39B.jpg&hash=32b0d9d6134f68144cfb90abf435ec5ce0232260) (http://imgur.com/mVpC39B)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDCIqDQm.jpg&hash=273faca0382cdcd642b369843ebebe04e82f5872) (http://imgur.com/DCIqDQm)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw65PLCC.jpg&hash=d93383398f5529a921736b0afa9f67765f8cfc87) (http://imgur.com/w65PLCC)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAPGJdIF.jpg&hash=948eb7bdf74d41dcff48f6ba5c41e3b1bbccfb85) (http://imgur.com/APGJdIF)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmVpC39B.jpg&hash=32b0d9d6134f68144cfb90abf435ec5ce0232260) (http://imgur.com/mVpC39B)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDCIqDQm.jpg&hash=273faca0382cdcd642b369843ebebe04e82f5872) (http://imgur.com/DCIqDQm)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw65PLCC.jpg&hash=d93383398f5529a921736b0afa9f67765f8cfc87) (http://imgur.com/w65PLCC)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 11:47:05 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 08, 2014, 11:47:05 PM
Definitely ashrock! Pretty smile and so natural.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: CrissyMarie on July 09, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
Post by: CrissyMarie on July 09, 2014, 08:59:52 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 08, 2014, 08:50:11 PM
For only 4 months you look awesome. You've a very feminine body shame. Nice legs and hips. And your very pretty now, but once that hair grows out girl, your gonna need a stick or a body guard to keep em off ya!
Ally :icon_flower:
=^-^= Omg! I'm blushing now.. Best compliment Eva! <3 Thank You so much.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 09, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
Post by: kasika on July 09, 2014, 09:36:19 AM
Quote from: Aina on July 08, 2014, 10:33:50 PM
You could also try getting Propecia which may help. I am currently trying to get my doctor to prescribe me some, since I have pretty bad receding hairline and I am trying to save my hair before it gets to rough...plus Propecia blocks DHT and Propecia's side effects have been know to "help" with Feminization.
I figured if in the end if it comes to it, I may just shave it all off. The nice thing is with wigs you can easily change your hair style, and as people stated above a lot of them look really good and impossible to tell they are wigs.
Ive been on Finasteride for over a year and a half now. If anything the damage has stopped and my hair is slowly coming back but of course, i can't expect miracles. I know yall are asking me to get a wig but i really don't want to. I tried one before and i felt so fake.
So, for now, i do this:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg101.xooimage.com%2Ffiles%2F7%2F1%2F2%2F2014-07-09-4698c59.jpg&hash=e688a44d3afe4a8802577a06d2ec4674637ab05d)
Everyone thinks it suits my style and i think it does. But i need to get more of these scarfs, with different colors and patterns to suit my tiny wardrobe.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Laurelin on July 09, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
Post by: Laurelin on July 09, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
just a little something in andro mode today, please share your thoughts :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2mixgn3.jpg&hash=6f02c4b03ba30bb5baa131c0cdd24df032f683b9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F96Rnluj.jpg%3F1&hash=2b6bb24d8841c135d437317c14dac97dff590df0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2mixgn3.jpg&hash=6f02c4b03ba30bb5baa131c0cdd24df032f683b9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F96Rnluj.jpg%3F1&hash=2b6bb24d8841c135d437317c14dac97dff590df0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 09, 2014, 04:43:28 PM
Post by: Sammy on July 09, 2014, 04:43:28 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 09, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
just a little something in andro mode today, please share your thoughts :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2mixgn3.jpg&hash=6f02c4b03ba30bb5baa131c0cdd24df032f683b9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F96Rnluj.jpg%3F1&hash=2b6bb24d8841c135d437317c14dac97dff590df0)
Lol, that's not andro :). Once You thin down Your brows a bit and get rid of remaining facial hair (I think, I spotted some shadow on Your upper lip) and You are good to roll :). And You have very nice shape (hips especially)!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 09, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 09, 2014, 05:10:03 PM
Quote from: ashrock on July 08, 2014, 11:29:59 PMlooking happy and very womanly
Alright, another go at this... Finally rather happy with how my makeup turned out:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAPGJdIF.jpg&hash=948eb7bdf74d41dcff48f6ba5c41e3b1bbccfb85) (http://imgur.com/APGJdIF)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FmVpC39B.jpg&hash=32b0d9d6134f68144cfb90abf435ec5ce0232260) (http://imgur.com/mVpC39B)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FDCIqDQm.jpg&hash=273faca0382cdcd642b369843ebebe04e82f5872) (http://imgur.com/DCIqDQm)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fw65PLCC.jpg&hash=d93383398f5529a921736b0afa9f67765f8cfc87) (http://imgur.com/w65PLCC)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 09, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 09, 2014, 05:58:52 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 09, 2014, 04:33:57 PM
just a little something in andro mode today, please share your thoughts :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F2mixgn3.jpg&hash=6f02c4b03ba30bb5baa131c0cdd24df032f683b9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F96Rnluj.jpg%3F1&hash=2b6bb24d8841c135d437317c14dac97dff590df0)
I like your andro look and I want one of those superman T shirts!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Post by: Sammy on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kitty on July 10, 2014, 02:42:05 AM
Post by: kitty on July 10, 2014, 02:42:05 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
I think it looks significantly female,
nice round face, nice cheeks, pretty eyes
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 10, 2014, 03:11:24 AM
Post by: Sammy on July 10, 2014, 03:11:24 AM
Quote from: kitty on July 10, 2014, 02:42:05 AM
I think it looks significantly female,
nice round face, nice cheeks, pretty eyes
Tnx kitty :) Must say that for someone You joined this site yesterday, Your looks are very very impressive :) :) :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kitty on July 10, 2014, 03:13:21 AM
Post by: kitty on July 10, 2014, 03:13:21 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 03:11:24 AM
Tnx kitty :) Must say that for someone You joined this site yesterday, Your looks are very very impressive :) :) :)
Aw, thank you, I really appreciate it! ♥
Yeah, I've browsed this site before but I just decided to make an account and post,
glad I did!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Christine167 on July 10, 2014, 04:22:17 AM
Post by: Christine167 on July 10, 2014, 04:22:17 AM
Quote from: Sincerely Tegan on July 08, 2014, 09:03:07 PM
Okay, it's been a while since I've been active, but I hope to change that starting now.
Anyway, still pre-HRT, but getting more confident with makeup. Thoughts, comments, suggestions, please?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg&hash=988cfd454af2fb1a0a6600b6e552abf13a5384cc) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/57AB1107-10CB-43DA-9940-FF55ACD65DE1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2FB51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg&hash=b6b290f4fa6594cd3cf8dd04a1c8f95e4996945b) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/B51D0080-2427-4282-B218-F809942B6D01.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi53.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fg73%2Fmisterfizzy%2F8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg&hash=c4f81acd67900e4177428ab101753a83037fca9f) (http://s53.photobucket.com/user/misterfizzy/media/8BA6921B-4B6A-4F45-A47F-4A96A2107D13.jpg.html)
Hugs,
Tegan
So cute.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 10, 2014, 10:21:44 PM
Post by: antonia on July 10, 2014, 10:21:44 PM
Looking at that picture the first thing that comes to mind is an elf queen (I'm a bit of a Lord of the Rings nut). You have very delicate features and I don't think you will have any issues passing!
Quote from: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 09:26:07 PM
My very first experiment ever (at least that I've photographed) *nervousness*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
Quote from: antonia on July 10, 2014, 10:21:44 PM
Looking at that picture the first thing that comes to mind is an elf queen (I'm a bit of a Lord of the Rings nut). You have very delicate features and I don't think you will have any issues passing!
I wish I had become aware of my transgender identity earlier. When I was twenty my hair was down to my waist and people would call me Legolas.
Now I have to wear a wig :(
And also, thank you so much :) I really hope you are right.. I was so nervous about posting that picture.
I also have so much to learn about makeup and hair. Any advice?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paige on July 10, 2014, 10:53:37 PM
Post by: Paige on July 10, 2014, 10:53:37 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
Hi Emily,
I wouldn't put a lot of faith in pictrev you're looking very feminine these days. But I did like the fact that it thought I was 39 or 40 depending on the picture I submitted. Not bad for a 52 year old :)
Take care,
Paige :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 10, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
Post by: antonia on July 10, 2014, 10:55:07 PM
I'm only out since January so I'm not much of an expert, you seem to have a light complexion and can't see any hint of beard or shadow (lucky you), your eyebrows look great, your nose is slim, your chin is round, I really think you have a nice face!
I'd say with your complexion you probably want to lean more towards the warmer colors, and try to "open up" your eyes, try some eyeliner and maskara to make them "bigger", highlight your cheekbones to make them "pop" out and up, perhaps a little blush. Then again you look really great in that photo so who am I to say anything :)
Not sure what you are planning hair wise, a better wig would help or if you plan on growing out your hair you might not want to waste any money on it.
I'd say with your complexion you probably want to lean more towards the warmer colors, and try to "open up" your eyes, try some eyeliner and maskara to make them "bigger", highlight your cheekbones to make them "pop" out and up, perhaps a little blush. Then again you look really great in that photo so who am I to say anything :)
Not sure what you are planning hair wise, a better wig would help or if you plan on growing out your hair you might not want to waste any money on it.
Quote from: Annabella on July 10, 2014, 10:32:32 PM
I wish I had become aware of my transgender identity earlier. When I was twenty my hair was down to my waist and people would call me Legolas.
Now I have to wear a wig :(
And also, thank you so much :) I really hope you are right.. I was so nervous about posting that picture.
I also have so much to learn about makeup and hair. Any advice?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 11, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 11, 2014, 01:46:57 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
w0t the heck is wrong with that program? You've gone a bit beyond andro I'm sorry (err happy?) to say. ??? Time to change your forum gender designation -> F ;D
Your cheeks did fill out compared to a few months ago.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 11, 2014, 02:07:15 AM
Post by: Sammy on July 11, 2014, 02:07:15 AM
@ Paige
:) Thank You for Your kind words - and yes, in Your case, pictrev was good news ;). In my case, it usually put me in the age bracket of "28-30" which is good, considering that I am 36, lol.
@ Evelyn
Aww, thanks :). Yep, changes in recent months have been mostly cheeks filling out and jawline slimming down. They say that the first year on HRT is visually MaleToAndro and then the second year is AndroToFemale - we shall see then.
As far as Androgyne for gender marker, it is more related to inner sense than visual presentation :). Still trying to figure out who the hell I am :D.
:) Thank You for Your kind words - and yes, in Your case, pictrev was good news ;). In my case, it usually put me in the age bracket of "28-30" which is good, considering that I am 36, lol.
@ Evelyn
Aww, thanks :). Yep, changes in recent months have been mostly cheeks filling out and jawline slimming down. They say that the first year on HRT is visually MaleToAndro and then the second year is AndroToFemale - we shall see then.
As far as Androgyne for gender marker, it is more related to inner sense than visual presentation :). Still trying to figure out who the hell I am :D.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 11, 2014, 03:51:58 AM
Post by: Sammy on July 11, 2014, 03:51:58 AM
Thank You, Chic - I do see a guy there at times though (funny, but not in the mirror, but in static pics). Glasses help a lot of to hold hair in place when I cycle - but I wear them that way everywhere :).
And Chic, You look sol soft and fluffy in those pics :).
And Chic, You look sol soft and fluffy in those pics :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kaylin Kumiho on July 11, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
Post by: Kaylin Kumiho on July 11, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
@the discussion about the facial recognition program. I just ran a photo through it as well, this one:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi994.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf69%2Ftiiuwitch%2F20140711_110925_zps1f00e1d4.jpg&hash=266f75efa91e9e2374531b17ea55353273e84f0d)
It spat back that I was 43% male, 57% female, and also 40 years old (I'm 23). I wouldn't put too much value on the program to be honest, you look great.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi994.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf69%2Ftiiuwitch%2F20140711_110925_zps1f00e1d4.jpg&hash=266f75efa91e9e2374531b17ea55353273e84f0d)
It spat back that I was 43% male, 57% female, and also 40 years old (I'm 23). I wouldn't put too much value on the program to be honest, you look great.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 11, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 11, 2014, 10:30:47 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
Pictrev, Cogiati and all of those gender questioning sites and tests are extremely flawed and are simply a source of entertainment and can't be trusted for any degree of accuracy.
Emily you are looking absolutely darling and very feminine, I see huge changes since you first appeared here at Susan's!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 11, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
Post by: Umiko on July 11, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg&hash=c2133efc880832f497136365c61afaf3f2d15d71) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg.html)
here's the side pic. i still think i need i may as well get trachea shaving as well with the vfs.
here's the side pic. i still think i need i may as well get trachea shaving as well with the vfs.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 11, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 11, 2014, 10:52:28 AM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 11, 2014, 10:35:44 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg&hash=c2133efc880832f497136365c61afaf3f2d15d71) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg.html)
here's the side pic. i still think i need i may as well get trachea shaving as well with the vfs.
Nice long slender neck Brianna, I don't see any sign of an adam's apple, so a trach shave probably isn't necessary.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 11, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 11, 2014, 11:02:11 AM
Quote from: Vampire Brianna Terryal Onyx on July 11, 2014, 10:35:44 AMI don't think you'll need it Brianna. Not from what I'm seeing. You have a good canvas for hrt to sculpt it's magic on.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm231%2FBriannaTerryal%2FWIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg&hash=c2133efc880832f497136365c61afaf3f2d15d71) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/BriannaTerryal/media/WIN_20140711_113320_zps40fe3498.jpg.html)
here's the side pic. i still think i need i may as well get trachea shaving as well with the vfs.
How'd the appointment go today?
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Umiko on July 11, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
Post by: Umiko on July 11, 2014, 11:03:46 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 11, 2014, 11:02:11 AMmy appointment isnt till this afternoon xD i look fat faced though.
I don't think you'll need it Breanna. Not from what I'm seeing. You have a good canvas for hrt to sculpt it's magic on.
How'd the appointment go today?
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aina on July 11, 2014, 03:28:22 PM
Post by: Aina on July 11, 2014, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: Chic on July 11, 2014, 03:01:00 AM
Emily, that program couldn't be any more wrong! All I see is female, female, female in your picture, and I love the glasses!
Still pre-HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEFm5F5M.jpg&hash=69fdc347653aa7c46760626f55542bba71e3975d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FZx9fNUm.jpg&hash=f81eba1349a8aab90005110a490b465a2be51f64)
You look pretty darn happy! Alot those angles make you look very feminine, a few of the frontal shots not so much. You'll be fine your already adorable!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Took this last nite before my date wit a guy
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fimage_zps96677c0a.jpg&hash=b61c70031cf6d13d394b4dddfc58bf9fd18d0646)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fimage_zps96677c0a.jpg&hash=b61c70031cf6d13d394b4dddfc58bf9fd18d0646)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 11, 2014, 03:38:50 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 11, 2014, 03:38:50 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Took this last ire before my date wit a guy
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fimage_zps96677c0a.jpg&hash=b61c70031cf6d13d394b4dddfc58bf9fd18d0646)
You pass Angelique, 900%.
I hope your date went well!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Donna Elvira on July 11, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
Post by: Donna Elvira on July 11, 2014, 05:12:38 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
Hi Emily,
It's been a long time and I have rarely ventured onto this thread. Anyway, I just wanted to add my encouragement to the feedback you have received from others. There really has been a lot of change and your face is much softer and fuller than when you started out. Are you now actually living as a woman, at least part time?
Out of curiosity, I also put my official "work" photo (in avatar right now) through Pictriev (didn't know it existed until I read your post) and it came out 94% feminine and 45 years old. Not bad for a soon to be 57 year old granny :). BTW, my previous avatar photo, with my grand daughter, scored 99% feminine but said I looked like Hillary Clinton: 30% ressemblance :(
Moral of the story, by the time you get to my age it will still be telling you that you're 40!
Wishing you all the best.
Donna
P.S. I also tested an old photo when I was about 24-25 and it scored 99% masculine!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: galaxy on July 11, 2014, 07:22:55 PM
Post by: galaxy on July 11, 2014, 07:22:55 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 03:32:57 PM
Took this last nite before my date wit a guy
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2Fimage_zps96677c0a.jpg&hash=b61c70031cf6d13d394b4dddfc58bf9fd18d0646)
I wished i had half of the prettiness ...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 07:40:46 PM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 07:40:46 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 11, 2014, 03:38:50 PMthanks it did go well, I hav another date wit him Sunday. He's a New Orleans detective n makes really good money so ima do my best to not mess this up cause he could be my ticket to getting electrolysis,breast implants,Jaw/chin shaving, n SRS
You pass Angelique, 900%.
I hope your date went well!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BeingSonia on July 12, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
Post by: BeingSonia on July 12, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
I promised myself I'll never post picture here. Well, there you go...
My outfit for today's therapy.
Sonia
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_04png_zps010dfbd2.png&hash=2acfa1e20812fb1e3de25e7b6fb18f0e462a10e0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_05_zpse466a166.png&hash=14fb6ec9f73425badec7357f00295a36ef97470e)
My outfit for today's therapy.
Sonia
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_04png_zps010dfbd2.png&hash=2acfa1e20812fb1e3de25e7b6fb18f0e462a10e0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_05_zpse466a166.png&hash=14fb6ec9f73425badec7357f00295a36ef97470e)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on July 12, 2014, 12:29:15 AM
Post by: Chic on July 12, 2014, 12:29:15 AM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on July 11, 2014, 07:40:46 PM
thanks it did go well, I hav another date wit him Sunday. He's a New Orleans detective n makes really good money so ima do my best to not mess this up cause he could be my ticket to getting electrolysis,breast implants,Jaw/chin shaving, n SRS
Ooh girl you get it! Lookin' fantastic btw~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
Quote from: Chic on July 12, 2014, 12:29:15 AMYou look good in your new Avatar Chic. It's nice to see the real you! And your pre hrt? Your gonna do very well once you get started.
Ooh girl you get it! Lookin' fantastic btw~
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 12, 2014, 01:02:14 AM
Post by: Annabella on July 12, 2014, 01:02:14 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
You look good in your new Avatar Chic. It's nice to see the real you! And your pre hrt? Your gonna do very well once you get started.
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
I second that! I think you look great. Did I understand right that a facial recognition software mis-identified you? It's in need of some re-engineering if so.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Chic on July 12, 2014, 03:02:02 AM
Post by: Chic on July 12, 2014, 03:02:02 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:52:18 AM
You look good in your new Avatar Chic. It's nice to see the real you! And your pre hrt? Your gonna do very well once you get started.
Best wishes! :icon_bunch:
Ally :icon_flower:
Thank you so much! I'm pre-HRT, yes, about a year and two months away from starting. That's really awesome coming from someone as beautiful and brave as you! (:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 12, 2014, 03:19:03 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 12, 2014, 03:19:03 AM
@BeingSonia: you look so beautiful and feminine, you don't need to post here at all because you pass already :3 I love your hair.
@Angelique: You don't need all those procedure really, you look so feminine already! You are stunning and beautiful ;D but if it will make you feel more comfortable with yourself then go ahead XD bu yeah you are gorgeous
@Chic: You have a round face which is great and a good standpoint for not being on HRT, the only times I can see a guy is in the frontal pictures, especially for your nose, which is not extremely masculine but with make up it can be more feminine, but you are not using make up so that's maybe why, if you start using make up and change your eyebrows then you are in good shape! Really cute :3
@VampireBrianna: I don't think you need a trachea shave, I can't see any Adam's apple, and you have very small ears and a long neck... Very feminine :3
@Angelique: You don't need all those procedure really, you look so feminine already! You are stunning and beautiful ;D but if it will make you feel more comfortable with yourself then go ahead XD bu yeah you are gorgeous
@Chic: You have a round face which is great and a good standpoint for not being on HRT, the only times I can see a guy is in the frontal pictures, especially for your nose, which is not extremely masculine but with make up it can be more feminine, but you are not using make up so that's maybe why, if you start using make up and change your eyebrows then you are in good shape! Really cute :3
@VampireBrianna: I don't think you need a trachea shave, I can't see any Adam's apple, and you have very small ears and a long neck... Very feminine :3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kaylee on July 12, 2014, 05:08:25 AM
Post by: Kaylee on July 12, 2014, 05:08:25 AM
Quote from: Kaylin Kumiho on July 11, 2014, 10:21:32 AM
It spat back that I was 43% male, 57% female, and also 40 years old (I'm 23). I wouldn't put too much value on the program to be honest, you look great.
Quote from: Annabella on July 11, 2014, 11:35:35 AM
http://betafaceapi.com/demo.html (http://betafaceapi.com/demo.html)
I ran this:
And got this:
age : 20 (9%), beard : no (16%), gender : female (23%), glasses : no (34%), mustache : no (25%), race : white (21%), smile : no (27%), chin size : extra small
It says I am female XD!
That made me happy.
It thinks that I'm 11 and have a beard...
Code Select
age : 11 (0%), beard : yes (12%), gender : female (31%), glasses : no (27%), mustache : no (51%), race : white (4%), smile : no (21%), chin size : extra small, color clothes middle : 938886 (29%), color clothes sides : 817d79 (3%), color eyes : 3f3e3 7 (74%), color hair : 411e17 (69%), color skin : a8766f, eyebrows corners : average, eyebrows position : average, eyebrows size : extra thin, eyes corners : low, eyes distance : far, eyes position : extra low, eyes shape : average, glasses rim : no, hair beard : none, hair color type : brown (69%), hair forehead : no, hair length : none, hair mustache : none, hair sides : thin, hair top : short, head shape : average, head width : extra wide, mouth corners : average, mouth height : thin, mouth width : average, nose shape : extra straight, nose width : extra narrow, teeth visible : yesI think it may need a bit of work still!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXCkxEbV.jpg&hash=84ce929710ce9d24675d8b5a74c6fdb4e1933296)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 12, 2014, 05:23:41 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 12, 2014, 05:23:41 AM
Quote from: Kaylee on July 12, 2014, 05:08:25 AM
It thinks that I'm 11 and have a beard...
I think it may need a bit of work still!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXCkxEbV.jpg&hash=84ce929710ce9d24675d8b5a74c6fdb4e1933296)
11 I understand ok not that young but I would still card you. Beard ??? ??? ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: primrose on July 12, 2014, 06:15:58 AM
Post by: primrose on July 12, 2014, 06:15:58 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 10, 2014, 02:36:47 AM
Does this andro shot looks remotely female? I run it through pictrev and it said 92% male who is 40 y.o. (bleh) :P.
(https://i.imgur.com/oYKhjMt.jpg)
do you identify as female? Your avatar says "A". Andro is somewhere inbetween. On this picture you look like a regular bint I suppose.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on July 12, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
Post by: Sammy on July 12, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
Shantel and Donna, thank You for those words of encouragement :). Big changes in a way, but still a lot of small steps to take.
Primrose, tnx :). "Bint", lol - I had to look that expression up :). Umm, androgyne is more complicated that just in between, but to keep it simple, I consider myself non-binary, my core identity is female and I am embracing it. But I dont see myself as 100% female and dont think I will ever get there. But having accepted that no matter what, there will always be a minor masculine part in me, I stopped making fuss about that and in its turn, it stopped stressing and worrying me :).
Primrose, tnx :). "Bint", lol - I had to look that expression up :). Umm, androgyne is more complicated that just in between, but to keep it simple, I consider myself non-binary, my core identity is female and I am embracing it. But I dont see myself as 100% female and dont think I will ever get there. But having accepted that no matter what, there will always be a minor masculine part in me, I stopped making fuss about that and in its turn, it stopped stressing and worrying me :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 12, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 12, 2014, 09:18:20 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 12, 2014, 08:43:01 AM
Shantel and Donna, thank You for those words of encouragement :). Big changes in a way, but still a lot of small steps to take.
Primrose, tnx :). "Bint", lol - I had to look that expression up :). Umm, androgyne is more complicated that just in between, but to keep it simple, I consider myself non-binary, my core identity is female and I am embracing it. But I dont see myself as 100% female and dont think I will ever get there. But having accepted that no matter what, there will always be a minor masculine part in me, I stopped making fuss about that and in its turn, it stopped stressing and worrying me :).
That's kinda how it works!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on July 12, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
Post by: V M on July 12, 2014, 11:41:26 AM
Quote from: Kaylee on July 12, 2014, 05:08:25 AM
It thinks that I'm 11 and have a beard...
I think it may need a bit of work still!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXCkxEbV.jpg&hash=84ce929710ce9d24675d8b5a74c6fdb4e1933296)
Oh my, first good laugh of the day :laugh: ... Bearded eleven year old :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: That's too funny
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 12, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Post by: Annabella on July 12, 2014, 11:57:32 AM
Quote from: Kaylee on July 12, 2014, 05:08:25 AM
It thinks that I'm 11 and have a beard...
I think it may need a bit of work still!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXCkxEbV.jpg&hash=84ce929710ce9d24675d8b5a74c6fdb4e1933296)
HA I think it thinks your necklace is a part of your face... wow.. Yeah, these things are very unreliable.
On one of them I got 3% male running a small version of my picture. Running the larger original (before I cropped it and reduced size) gave me 75% female.
So... yeah, not impressed at this point.
Anything or anyone calling me female makes me feel good though :]
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 12:44:21 PM
I don't place much stock in these programs. It's something to go have a little fun with then when the novelty wears off it's over. They aren't accurate. One time on pictreiv it picked up the arm of my chair and said it was 56% female, lol!!
Ally :icon_flower:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kaylin Kumiho on July 12, 2014, 01:13:03 PM
Post by: Kaylin Kumiho on July 12, 2014, 01:13:03 PM
So I tried a different photo where I'm actually... you know... smiling.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi994.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf69%2Ftiiuwitch%2Fkaylinface2_zpse8fb6e9a.jpg&hash=95ceb54adf435356edce962345e7bed8e5098f99)
The thing spat back that I was 75% female. Idk, I don't really think I can pass...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi994.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf69%2Ftiiuwitch%2Fkaylinface2_zpse8fb6e9a.jpg&hash=95ceb54adf435356edce962345e7bed8e5098f99)
The thing spat back that I was 75% female. Idk, I don't really think I can pass...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 12, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 12, 2014, 02:54:50 PM
Quote from: Kaylin Kumiho on July 12, 2014, 01:13:03 PMyou have a soft round face
So I tried a different photo where I'm actually... you know... smiling.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi994.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf69%2Ftiiuwitch%2Fkaylinface2_zpse8fb6e9a.jpg&hash=95ceb54adf435356edce962345e7bed8e5098f99)
The thing spat back that I was 75% female. Idk, I don't really think I can pass...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Joan on July 12, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
Post by: Joan on July 12, 2014, 07:46:24 PM
Quote from: BeingSonia on July 12, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
I promised myself I'll never post picture here. Well, there you go...
My outfit for today's therapy.
Sonia
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_04png_zps010dfbd2.png&hash=2acfa1e20812fb1e3de25e7b6fb18f0e462a10e0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_05_zpse466a166.png&hash=14fb6ec9f73425badec7357f00295a36ef97470e)
すごいきれいじゃない！パンツも靴もよく似合ってるし、スタイル完璧よ(*^_^*)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 12, 2014, 07:54:46 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 12, 2014, 07:54:46 PM
Quote from: BeingSonia on July 12, 2014, 12:22:27 AM
I promised myself I'll never post picture here. Well, there you go...
My outfit for today's therapy.
Sonia
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_04png_zps010dfbd2.png&hash=2acfa1e20812fb1e3de25e7b6fb18f0e462a10e0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_05_zpse466a166.png&hash=14fb6ec9f73425badec7357f00295a36ef97470e)
I had missed this post earlier, but my goodness you look terrific dear!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 12, 2014, 07:59:06 PM
Quote from: BeingSonia on July 12, 2014, 12:22:27 AMYou look great Sonia, A nice, very professional look that's hard to pull off. You however pull it off very nicely!
I promised myself I'll never post picture here. Well, there you go...
My outfit for today's therapy.
Sonia
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F20140712_04png_zps010dfbd2.png&hash=2acfa1e20812fb1e3de25e7b6fb18f0e462a10e0)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on July 14, 2014, 04:01:36 PM
Post by: RobinGee on July 14, 2014, 04:01:36 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FjQe3p2dl.jpg&hash=01f70fced9fbdf2738c28129eed38f531912449d)
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I pasted these and the server crashed
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 14, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 14, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
Quote from: RobinGee on July 14, 2014, 04:01:36 PM
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I think you can pass already, but you could look better with a different hairstyle... It's never good to show off the forehead that much like Miranda Sings XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Post by: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 14, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 14, 2014, 07:49:28 PM
Well, seeing as you already pass (How many times must I tell you!) I think now you're really going to be looking for beauty advice rather than passing advice.. I think bangs would not hurt, or a sweep, more to feminize your hairline than to hide anything.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 14, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 14, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVK1lsl3.jpg&hash=3e1a727611990bb976b148d93d1f41523958d248)
"Jellly!' was the first thing that came to mind. Hmm, about the bangs..well you have a short forehead it seems. Not sure if that would look nice but I am a poor hairstylist. I like your current style..perhaps a cut to a length you can appreciate and another colour? For reference look at your picture and focus on the part where your hair gets wavy and lighter. I am seeing a fun look if it's a little longer
You share some facial structures with me that look good: big eyes, nice cheeks...I think your face is feminizing nicely
I'm definately not there yet because I had to cut my hair short due to alopecia (baldness). Wig atm but its awful and I dont wear it alone, boyscut w/e. but 3 months of HRT has done good things to my scalp already, it seems to restore some so here's hoping ^^
Anyway, looking good Hikari ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Post by: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 14, 2014, 07:57:49 PM
"Jellly!' was the first thing that came to mind. Hmm, about the bangs..well you have a short forehead it seems. Not sure if that would look nice but I am a poor hairstylist. I like your current style..perhaps a cut to a length you can appreciate and another colour? For reference look at your picture and focus on the part where your hair gets wavy and lighter. I am seeing a fun look if it's a little longer
You share some facial structures with me that look good: big eyes, nice cheeks...I think your face is feminizing nicely
I'm definately not there yet because I had to cut my hair short due to alopecia (baldness). Wig atm but its awful and I dont wear it alone, boyscut w/e. but 3 months of HRT has done good things to my scalp already, it seems to restore some so here's hoping ^^
Anyway, looking good Hikari ;)
To be honest, I am not sure if I pass or not, I am only part time, when I have went out, no one really said anything...but they could just be thinking it not saying it so IDK. I mean I have pretty obvious brow bossing and a really long big nose, to me it kinda screams male. It isn't perhaps obvious in that picture because it is more dead on with my nose and brow but look at this:
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When I see myself from angles like that, I realize that my nose takes up like half my whole face. And the brow bossing can be seen at that angle too, granted the bossing isn't insane, but I think it is more than a woman would have right? That is the biggest reason I am interested in bangs, because if I could cover that up, that would really just leave me with a nose that screams huge....and maybe huge wouldn't necessarily be seen as male?
I am about to take 2" or so off of my bra strap length hair, because of some split ends, and it seems some newer style would kinda make sense to do at the same time....is there a website or a program out there where you can take a pic of your face and just throw different hairstyles on it?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 14, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 14, 2014, 08:40:45 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 08:22:08 PM
To be honest, I am not sure if I pass or not, I am only part time, when I have went out, no one really said anything...but they could just be thinking it not saying it so IDK. I mean I have pretty obvious brow bossing and a really long big nose, to me it kinda screams male. It isn't perhaps obvious in that picture because it is more dead on with my nose and brow but look at this:
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When I see myself from angles like that, I realize that my nose takes up like half my whole face. And the brow bossing can be seen at that angle too, granted the bossing isn't insane, but I think it is more than a woman would have right? That is the biggest reason I am interested in bangs, because if I could cover that up, that would really just leave me with a nose that screams huge....and maybe huge wouldn't necessarily be seen as male?
I am about to take 2" or so off of my bra strap length hair, because of some split ends, and it seems some newer style would kinda make sense to do at the same time....is there a website or a program out there where you can take a pic of your face and just throw different hairstyles on it?
I am not an E-Expert so I am slowly collecting useful TG-orientated sites ...I havent found anything like that yet but there has to be something. Good tip!
I have your "Nose problem" aswell and it's a worry, more than my brows (Not sure what bossing means) which are prominent but way easier to deal with. You're seeing them up closer when you look in the mirror so you can judge that better I think. It didnt scream male to me from what I've seen
Any other bodyparts we need to discuss and share some tears and advice over? :D
PS: I dont have any recent photo's but I might make a few. Not ready to post in the thread yet but I feel ok with PMing you if you like some reference...you might even think "It's not that bad afterall!" Rofl
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 14, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 14, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
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I don't think you need to hide anything... Bangs are harder to keep and it might damage your hair by over-treating your hair... but yeah bangs are not only meant to hide big forehead, they are fashionable, I don't have a big forehead myself but i just love bangs, and they make you look cute :3 and younger for those who need to hide wrinkles there XD so I'm always pro bangs because I like them although i don't need to cover anything, but yeah there are different types of bangs that can help frame your face more feminine... You seem to pass already, what about styling your hair differently? curls or straight hair? It seems to me that they are very natural... Maybe change your color? you should wait 2 years of HRT before thinking about FFS in my opinion you dont need it. What are you thinking on doing?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 14, 2014, 09:31:07 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 14, 2014, 09:31:07 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 08:22:08 PMI think bangs with a layered cut to frame your face would look awesome on you. You don't have brow bossing dear. None that I can see from either of your photos. You actually look great already. But I agree with your idea of bangs or swept bangs with layers added to frame your face would look very nice on you.
To be honest, I am not sure if I pass or not, I am only part time, when I have went out, no one really said anything...but they could just be thinking it not saying it so IDK. I mean I have pretty obvious brow bossing and a really long big nose, to me it kinda screams male. It isn't perhaps obvious in that picture because it is more dead on with my nose and brow but look at this:
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When I see myself from angles like that, I realize that my nose takes up like half my whole face. And the brow bossing can be seen at that angle too, granted the bossing isn't insane, but I think it is more than a woman would have right? That is the biggest reason I am interested in bangs, because if I could cover that up, that would really just leave me with a nose that screams huge....and maybe huge wouldn't necessarily be seen as male?
I am about to take 2" or so off of my bra strap length hair, because of some split ends, and it seems some newer style would kinda make sense to do at the same time....is there a website or a program out there where you can take a pic of your face and just throw different hairstyles on it?
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 15, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
Post by: katiej on July 15, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
Since you're part time, I wouldn't go with bangs yet. But I would think about it for the future. A nice side swept bang would be really cute on you.
And I'm with Ally...I don't see any brow bossing, at least not anything you should be worried about.
And I'm with Ally...I don't see any brow bossing, at least not anything you should be worried about.
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RobinGee on July 15, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
Post by: RobinGee on July 15, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on July 14, 2014, 04:49:00 PM
I think you can pass already, but you could look better with a different hairstyle... It's never good to show off the forehead that much like Miranda Sings XD
Umm... What? Pass already? Huh? No. That's not even... Seriously. You're just being overly nice or something.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 15, 2014, 05:45:19 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 15, 2014, 05:45:19 AM
Quote from: RobinGee on July 15, 2014, 03:40:20 AM
Umm... What? Pass already? Huh? No. That's not even... Seriously. You're just being overly nice or something.
I don't think you'd pass physically seeing the pictures. Your attitude seems nice however
Some think that's hurtful to say but I prefer honesty and being direct over sugarcoating
I've taken pictures in the past when I was more androgynous in look and had no issues yet with balding hear. Couple that with having a more femme frame naturally than most men I knew I wouldnt do too bad.
A lot were simple compliments but also complete envy by others, saying I passed 100% percent.
I just don't believe that, there's so much more to it. You can look the look but if you feel very insecure about body and voice (me), are clumsy or just cherrypick environments it can jade everything
Maybe I come off negative or harsh, sorry in advance
Vivien
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 15, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Post by: Hikari on July 15, 2014, 07:14:27 AM
Quote from: katiej on July 15, 2014, 12:03:53 AM
Since you're part time, I wouldn't go with bangs yet. But I would think about it for the future. A nice side swept bang would be really cute on you.
And I'm with Ally...I don't see any brow bossing, at least not anything you should be worried about.
I am not super worried about a femme haircut at my current job. I am much more worried about the Trans label. You see the company added sexual orientation discrimination policies but not gender identity ones. I am pretty sure they all think I am gay, while I have 0 romantic interests in men, pride stickers on my car and laptop along with my Hello Kitty iPhone case makes people think odd things (what does a cell phone case have to do with being gay anyway?). We also have no appearance policies at all except no shorts, open toe shoes, or skirts above the knee when interacting with customers (I could get a face full of piercings if I wanted). The problem is, if I come out at this job, it would probably be the excuse they need to fire me. I am trying to get on with another company that has already said if I can get the certifications they want, they don't care what my appearance or pronouns are lol, but that takes time.
Quote from: Allyda on July 14, 2014, 09:31:07 PMWell, I am pretty sure I am going to be able to get away with a type 1 forehead surgery, but when I look at my face I have trouble not seeing it....I mean I don't quite have a caveman forehead but, ugh, I notice my brows right away. Maybe I am overly critical there IDK......The beauty website always say that people whose face is reasonably long could do well with a sort of blunt bang style. I think I could see that maybe, side swept seems kinda tough because my hair becomes very wavy on it's own, I would have to use products or heat to hold it....Not sure what I think about using unnatural stuff on my hair again. If it looked good enough I might.
I think bangs with a layered cut to frame your face would look awesome on you. You don't have brow bossing dear. None that I can see from either of your photos. You actually look great already. But I agree with your idea of bangs or swept bangs with layers added to frame your face would look very nice on you.
Ally :icon_flower:
Quote from: Emily29 on July 14, 2014, 08:47:29 PM
I don't think you need to hide anything... Bangs are harder to keep and it might damage your hair by over-treating your hair... but yeah bangs are not only meant to hide big forehead, they are fashionable, I don't have a big forehead myself but i just love bangs, and they make you look cute :3 and younger for those who need to hide wrinkles there XD so I'm always pro bangs because I like them although i don't need to cover anything, but yeah there are different types of bangs that can help frame your face more feminine... You seem to pass already, what about styling your hair differently? curls or straight hair? It seems to me that they are very natural... Maybe change your color? you should wait 2 years of HRT before thinking about FFS in my opinion you dont need it. What are you thinking on doing?
I admit, ever since I was a little kid I was always a bit envious of bettie page and her beautiful black bangs. I would want mine longer though as to compensate for my long face...I used to dye my hair black too, but I decided when moving from a gothic to a more hippie kinda style that I would go as natural as I could. My hair is naturally very wavy, as might be obvious from my pictures I can make it curly with hot rollers pretty easily, it won't stay straight for the whole day without product....I am reluctant to start putting product or heat back into my hair, along with lots of bleaching and coloring it really hurt the quality of my hair before.
I am thinking of a type 1 brow reduction, and a rhinoplasty. Maybe more, but everything else I am kinda reluctant on, those two things alone are pretty expensive. I still need more electro and laser work before I am going to worry about FFS, but I am going to seriously start planning in the near future.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 15, 2014, 07:34:21 AM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on July 15, 2014, 07:34:21 AM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FVK1lsl3.jpg&hash=3e1a727611990bb976b148d93d1f41523958d248)
Maybe its just me, but going by your pictures I honestly can't see how you'd pass for a guy!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 15, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
Post by: stephaniec on July 15, 2014, 10:29:03 AM
Quote from: AnnaCannibal on July 15, 2014, 07:34:21 AMditto
Maybe its just me, but going by your pictures I honestly can't see how you'd pass for a guy!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 15, 2014, 10:38:27 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 15, 2014, 10:38:27 AM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PM
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
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You don't have a high hairline or a lot of excessive forehead Hikari and my gosh what pretty big kind of sad eyes, you have the face of a born woman whether you realize it or not.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 15, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 15, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 14, 2014, 07:46:20 PMYou know, I was thinking that even if you'd part your hair slightly off to one side you might see an improvement over your already fabulous looks. Hair parted straight up the middle is a kind of a 70's men's hippie style, I dunno. You could just experiment a little to see which hairstyle might work better though. It's just a thought, my $.02 so take it with a grain of salt. As I said before you look great already. I do think layers to frame your face better would really bring out those beautiful eyes of yours.
Not sure what more I can do to my face to help with passing without FFS, I am on 5 months HRT. I was almost thinking of trying to get bangs to cover my forehead, what do you all think about that?
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Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LizMarie on July 16, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
Post by: LizMarie on July 16, 2014, 12:01:02 PM
Hikari, I just do not see a guy there. At all. But I agree with Allyda - sometimes a change in hairstyle can help too. I know for myself (because of extensive male pattern baldness) that I look better in wigs with bangs than any without. And I've been told that bangs can help further feminize a face by people who are professional beauticians. Just a thought! But I stand by my first statement - I don't see guy there at all.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
After a lovely evening and subsequently having my bike stolen (Have to use public transport now, ughh) I decided I could put up a pic of what I was wearing to today. It's been years since Ive last shown my face here so why not
The lighting and closeup is probably not great
~ On HRT for 3months now. Ive had the usual development and changes I guess, visiting endo tomorrow for my first evaluation
~ It's a wig. Loathe the things but my own hair is simply too short atm for a tomboy's coupe of some sort. I starting getting thinning hair on top due to male baldness. HRT is doing a good job restoring
~ I was wearing these pants http://ak1.polyvoreimg.com/cgi/img-thing/size/l/tid/109179400.jpg (http://ak1.polyvoreimg.com/cgi/img-thing/size/l/tid/109179400.jpg) and http://grotemaatschoenen.nl/dames/ballerina-s/andres-machado-2211-01-096.html (http://grotemaatschoenen.nl/dames/ballerina-s/andres-machado-2211-01-096.html) with it. I do like the look but it's a bit more for for a night out than everyday wear to me
~I cant go fulltime yet because my wardrobe is pretty much empty. I'll be able to get some more soon but I need to sort out some finances
~I''ve had my first laser session and I've got plenty more paid for already so that's good. I'll probably visit them again next week for some eyebrow trimming and some basic make-up advice since I tend to go too little or way too much
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While I don't think I pass (apart from the odd angle) HRT has made me feel energetic and alive again; the changes feel and look good. I'm more positive but there's lot of work to be done
Vivien
The lighting and closeup is probably not great
~ On HRT for 3months now. Ive had the usual development and changes I guess, visiting endo tomorrow for my first evaluation
~ It's a wig. Loathe the things but my own hair is simply too short atm for a tomboy's coupe of some sort. I starting getting thinning hair on top due to male baldness. HRT is doing a good job restoring
~ I was wearing these pants http://ak1.polyvoreimg.com/cgi/img-thing/size/l/tid/109179400.jpg (http://ak1.polyvoreimg.com/cgi/img-thing/size/l/tid/109179400.jpg) and http://grotemaatschoenen.nl/dames/ballerina-s/andres-machado-2211-01-096.html (http://grotemaatschoenen.nl/dames/ballerina-s/andres-machado-2211-01-096.html) with it. I do like the look but it's a bit more for for a night out than everyday wear to me
~I cant go fulltime yet because my wardrobe is pretty much empty. I'll be able to get some more soon but I need to sort out some finances
~I''ve had my first laser session and I've got plenty more paid for already so that's good. I'll probably visit them again next week for some eyebrow trimming and some basic make-up advice since I tend to go too little or way too much
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2F8zq4mr7y7%2F16714.jpg&hash=c8825e4f25a086ee123034f9ed114baa1ecd29b5) (http://postimage.org/)
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While I don't think I pass (apart from the odd angle) HRT has made me feel energetic and alive again; the changes feel and look good. I'm more positive but there's lot of work to be done
Vivien
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 16, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 16, 2014, 05:36:04 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 05:21:53 PMFor only 3 months on hrt I think you look nice. You'll get there hun. From your photo it looks like you have a good start. I'm not seeing any overly masculine traits. You look Andro favoring the feminine side to me.
After a lovely evening and subsequently having my bike stolen (Have to use public transport now, ughh) I decided I could put up a pic of what I was wearing to today. It's been years since Ive last shown my face here so why not
The lighting and closeup is probably not great
~ On HRT for 3months now. Ive had the usual development and changes I guess, visiting endo tomorrow for my first evaluation
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2F8zq4mr7y7%2F16714.jpg&hash=c8825e4f25a086ee123034f9ed114baa1ecd29b5) (http://postimage.org/)
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While I don't think I pass (apart from the odd angle) HRT has made me feel energetic and alive again; the changes feel and look good. I'm more positive but there's lot of work to be done
Vivien
Sorry to hear about your bike. I just hate a thief, and hope he's caught soon.
Best wishes :icon_bunch:
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 16, 2014, 06:05:43 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 16, 2014, 06:05:43 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 05:21:53 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs1.postimg.org%2F8zq4mr7y7%2F16714.jpg&hash=c8825e4f25a086ee123034f9ed114baa1ecd29b5) (http://postimage.org/)
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While I don't think I pass (apart from the odd angle) HRT has made me feel energetic and alive again; the changes feel and look good. I'm more positive but there's lot of work to be done
Vivien
Vivien,
You have a very nice shaped face and beautiful full lips, you should have a fabulous outcome dear.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 16, 2014, 07:46:43 PM
Thanks Allie and Shantel
And about my bike, I shouldnt have put it such an obvious "steal meh!" position but I was fairly tired and unconcentrated...sleep-deprived, HRT seems to cut my sleeping hours in half this week ( Tingling across my body, transpiration, boobs 'getting in the way' when I want to sleep on my side)
I might post some new pictures at some point, can't wait to compare
And about my bike, I shouldnt have put it such an obvious "steal meh!" position but I was fairly tired and unconcentrated...sleep-deprived, HRT seems to cut my sleeping hours in half this week ( Tingling across my body, transpiration, boobs 'getting in the way' when I want to sleep on my side)
I might post some new pictures at some point, can't wait to compare
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on July 16, 2014, 08:26:17 PM
Post by: Natalia on July 16, 2014, 08:26:17 PM
Today, after more than one year and a half away from scissors...I paid a visit to the hair stylist and...finally I can stop wearing wigs!!!
I know I was a bit away from the forum, but I'd appreciate a few (sincere) comments =)
Do I look or could I pass as female? Did I reach the male phail pahse at last or not yet? =P (sorry for the poor lightning). From today on this will be my everyday look, should I expect to get a few strange looks on the street?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10491979_1525279427691516_8482445231156666308_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10402992_1525279424358183_7118035605039612967_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10450549_1525279421024850_3601178338635705174_n.jpg)
I know I was a bit away from the forum, but I'd appreciate a few (sincere) comments =)
Do I look or could I pass as female? Did I reach the male phail pahse at last or not yet? =P (sorry for the poor lightning). From today on this will be my everyday look, should I expect to get a few strange looks on the street?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10491979_1525279427691516_8482445231156666308_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10402992_1525279424358183_7118035605039612967_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10450549_1525279421024850_3601178338635705174_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 16, 2014, 09:35:28 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 16, 2014, 09:35:28 PM
Quote from: Natalia on July 16, 2014, 08:26:17 PM
Today, after more than one year and a half away from scissors...I paid a visit to the hair stylist and...finally I can stop wearing wigs!!!
I know I was a bit away from the forum, but I'd appreciate a few (sincere) comments =)
Do I look or could I pass as female? Did I reach the male phail pahse at last or not yet? =P (sorry for the poor lightning). From today on this will be my everyday look, should I expect to get a few strange looks on the street?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10491979_1525279427691516_8482445231156666308_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10402992_1525279424358183_7118035605039612967_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-9/10450549_1525279421024850_3601178338635705174_n.jpg)
Looking fabulous, you are so pretty Natalia, love your winning smile.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 16, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 16, 2014, 09:56:15 PM
Quote from: Natalia on July 16, 2014, 08:26:17 PMNatalie, you passed the male fail phase long ago. Your looking fabulous hun. I love your new hairstyle and better yet, it's your real hair! You might as well throw away any men's clothing you may still have. Trust me hun, you'll not be needing it anymore!
Today, after more than one year and a half away from scissors...I paid a visit to the hair stylist and...finally I can stop wearing wigs!!!
I know I was a bit away from the forum, but I'd appreciate a few (sincere) comments =)
Do I look or could I pass as female? Did I reach the male phail pahse at last or not yet? =P (sorry for the poor lightning). From today on this will be my everyday look, should I expect to get a few strange looks on the street?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10402992_1525279424358183_7118035605039612967_n.jpg)
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 10:50:27 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 10:50:27 PM
Here I am after my drastic weight loss. What do people think?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
A few more:
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on July 17, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
Post by: crowcrow223 on July 17, 2014, 02:20:09 PM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
A few more:
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TOTAL PASS to me! :) I'd never think You're a trans woman!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 17, 2014, 02:47:53 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 17, 2014, 02:47:53 PM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 11:12:02 PM
A few more:
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You certainly pass, as mentioned above.
If you are also looking for recommendations to enhance your look:
(recognizing I am still new at this too, and love getting advice, so tell me to shut up if you want!)
You might try some product in your hair, and maybe shape your eyebrows a bit more (trim or pluck the bottom portion and use an eyebrow pencil to enhance and shape the upper portion). I think the lower cut blouse in the first set of pictures works better, as the t-shirt is a bit more masculine of a cut.
A bit more light makeup around the eyes, and perhaps some thicker fem-ish frames for your glasses. Also you have the frames set low on your face, if you either get new frames or adjust them you will be looking up rather than down, which will force you to adjust the tilt of your head, that would make your eyes open wider and change the natural assumed angle of your chin/forehead. There is a reason even cis-women like to take selfies looking up at the camera from a low angle.
Posture, (pot calling kettle here) seems to help a lot. I know that it is one of the things that is going to kill me as I transition (as I am a lazy sloucher!). I have considered whether getting a corset might help me to train my back muscles to hold a more feminine pose (or maybe it would just cause me to rely on the corset? not sure).
I find what is helping me is to research what artists are taught when drawing female vs male forms, because they don't draw real features, they draw the features that subconsciously we are looking for to determine gender. I have an older brother who is an accomplished illustrator, and when he started to demonstrate how to draw women to me and my cousin the first words out of his mouth were "Now, just to be clear, what I am about to draw is not how real women look or are built".
You are doing great though Winternight,
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 17, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 17, 2014, 04:22:39 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 17, 2014, 02:47:53 PM
You certainly pass, as mentioned above.
If you are also looking for recommendations to enhance your look:
(recognizing I am still new at this too, and love getting advice, so tell me to shut up if you want!)
You might try some product in your hair, and maybe shape your eyebrows a bit more (trim or pluck the bottom portion and use an eyebrow pencil to enhance and shape the upper portion). I think the lower cut blouse in the first set of pictures works better, as the t-shirt is a bit more masculine of a cut.
A bit more light makeup around the eyes, and perhaps some thicker fem-ish frames for your glasses. Also you have the frames set low on your face, if you either get new frames or adjust them you will be looking up rather than down, which will force you to adjust the tilt of your head, that would make your eyes open wider and change the natural assumed angle of your chin/forehead. There is a reason even cis-women like to take selfies looking up at the camera from a low angle.
Posture, (pot calling kettle here) seems to help a lot. I know that it is one of the things that is going to kill me as I transition (as I am a lazy sloucher!). I have considered whether getting a corset might help me to train my back muscles to hold a more feminine pose (or maybe it would just cause me to rely on the corset? not sure).
I find what is helping me is to research what artists are taught when drawing female vs male forms, because they don't draw real features, they draw the features that subconsciously we are looking for to determine gender. I have an older brother who is an accomplished illustrator, and when he started to demonstrate how to draw women to me and my cousin the first words out of his mouth were "Now, just to be clear, what I am about to draw is not how real women look or are built".
You are doing great though Winternight,
Thank you! I'm looking to set up an appointment this weekend to get my brows cleaned up some.
The glasses can't be helped; the frames I have fall no matter what I do so I'm going to be looking into contacts (I hate glasses to begin with).
My hair definitely needs work. I think I may get a deep conditioning this weekend and get the dead ends taken off. I may ask for something that looks feminine down but not so much when pulled back. Eventually I'd like to get a fringe but that's not any time soon.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 17, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 17, 2014, 05:57:48 PM
You girls are all looking good! Wynternight- love the hair colour! Hikari - you also have gorgeous very bohemian style of hair! I love it- hence my avatar pic! Not my natural hair - I'm receding somewhat so need good quality wigs to rely on! I'm 50 and pre hormones. Get my blood test tomorrow having already been diagnosed with gender dysphoria! Hope to therefore get my girly estrogen patches soon! Xxx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
Post by: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
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I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
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I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 18, 2014, 12:04:18 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 18, 2014, 12:04:18 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
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I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
You're just darling, maybe a little work on those eyebrows.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 18, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 18, 2014, 12:56:40 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQEStn7.jpg%3F1&hash=fc6c2dd82e7fafe2c019e239abddc92f6b5e49b1)
I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
Nice dress and you've got a good figure!
Just don't hunch, chin up ...show you love da dress! ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
Post by: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
wow thanks for the compliments! I was hesitating a bit when posting this :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 18, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 18, 2014, 01:52:17 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AMYou look very cute. Oh and I love that dress! As Auntie Shan suggested you might try working on your eyebrows a bit. When your hair grows out you could try getting a layer cut to better frame your face and you'd look awesome!
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQEStn7.jpg%3F1&hash=fc6c2dd82e7fafe2c019e239abddc92f6b5e49b1)
I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
Best Wishes!
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 18, 2014, 02:06:20 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 18, 2014, 02:06:20 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 01:45:02 PM
wow thanks for the compliments! I was hesitating a bit when posting this :D
Love the blood elf Paladin avatar!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 18, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 18, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQEStn7.jpg%3F1&hash=fc6c2dd82e7fafe2c019e239abddc92f6b5e49b1)
I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
Like me you have the figure for it (though I am trying to flatten my belly a bit). Your photo suffers somewhat from over-contrasty-camera syndrome which accents the shadows under the brow, top of the nose, under the eyes, and under the bottom lip. If you use a poor quality camera, it usually helps to pull it into photoshop and adjust the contrast using the "levels" filter until the contrast level matches reality. Not doing so can give you a false impression of how you look to people.
If you want my suggestions:
1 - makeup, and don't overdo it, just a touch. Use it to reduce the shadows under your brow, and eyes, the top of your nose, and under your bottom lip, eyeliner maybe?
2 - posture, you and I suffer from the same thing. "Stack your blocks" as my mother used to say.
3 - eyebrows, if you're going to present as fem consistently, you have enough eyebrow that you can shape them by plucking what falls outside of the shape you want, a nice arch should be pretty easy. I've seen some people use concealer and eyebrow pencil to shape them instead so they can go back to "boy mode", though with yours as thick as they are, I'm not certain how that would look.
4 - Glasses (JUST KIDDING, that's just me obsessing over glasses lately)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on July 18, 2014, 08:08:27 PM
Post by: Brenda E on July 18, 2014, 08:08:27 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
Honey, you look like you're 25 and post-hormones. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 18, 2014, 08:18:38 PM
Post by: Hikari on July 18, 2014, 08:18:38 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
Looking good! I can relate about the glasses...I am planning on buying contacts, I only wear mine when I am driving, but I really can't see anything more than a few feet away from me without them :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 18, 2014, 08:20:30 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 18, 2014, 08:20:30 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
You look so much younger! I love your make up it suits you well, and you are flawless
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 19, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 19, 2014, 12:48:30 AM
To Brenda, Emily and hikari! Thank u so very much for your comments :-). They do my fragile confidence much good!. Amazing what make up, wig and good fitting dress can do! Needed help from understanding make up artist to help me! Red head or brunette? - good to have choices , although I would give anything to have a full head of natural own hair like you girls :-). Hikari - as previously stated you have gorgeous hair just to die for!!!!.
Having lunch with a few girls in Edinburgh today! Should be fun despite rain forecast. At 50 my bio clock is ticking fast- decision re hormones not that faraway now! Need them to make the real differences I need . Big hugs xxxx
Having lunch with a few girls in Edinburgh today! Should be fun despite rain forecast. At 50 my bio clock is ticking fast- decision re hormones not that faraway now! Need them to make the real differences I need . Big hugs xxxx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 12:53:03 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
I want that hair colour! Gorgeous!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 19, 2014, 01:11:48 AM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 19, 2014, 01:11:48 AM
Wynternight! - it was your hair colour that prompted me to opt for my plum coloured wig! Colour ain't my own unlike yours - lol :-) xx . You are fine !!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 02:08:07 AM
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 02:08:07 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 19, 2014, 01:11:48 AM
Wynternight! - it was your hair colour that prompted me to opt for my plum coloured wig! Colour ain't my own unlike yours - lol :-) xx . You are fine !!
I'm flattered! :D I need to redo mine to get it a bit more intense.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Hello everyone,
sorry for my english.
I'm wondering if i could pass as female in everyday life, i'm now 8th month on HRT and i'm still afraid to go out.
First photo was taken 1,5month on HRT, second one about 5th month on HRT, i know i'm pretty big and i got muscles but i have pretty hard time to loose my weight even with diet and excercises.
And yes i'm wearing a wig on my big head.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F292mudl.jpg&hash=e0b0d20f223797b46b37413a5f473bb56ad64e1d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F219z69g.jpg&hash=16b1dc00cbddb2d883240b4fd987e4318b4a386d)
sorry for my english.
I'm wondering if i could pass as female in everyday life, i'm now 8th month on HRT and i'm still afraid to go out.
First photo was taken 1,5month on HRT, second one about 5th month on HRT, i know i'm pretty big and i got muscles but i have pretty hard time to loose my weight even with diet and excercises.
And yes i'm wearing a wig on my big head.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F292mudl.jpg&hash=e0b0d20f223797b46b37413a5f473bb56ad64e1d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F219z69g.jpg&hash=16b1dc00cbddb2d883240b4fd987e4318b4a386d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on July 19, 2014, 03:08:22 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on July 19, 2014, 03:08:22 AM
How could you not pass as female?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:16:58 AM
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:16:58 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on July 19, 2014, 03:08:22 AM
How could you not pass as female?
I got pretty big man-ish arms only loong sleeves for me and i'm still pretty muscular and still when i'm looking in a mirrior i see a man, maybe it's in my head.
I'm 36 now i would go trought transition when iw as 28 but i was told i will NEVER look as female and i could never pass, and that was in TS support group in my country.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on July 19, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on July 19, 2014, 03:22:43 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:16:58 AM
I got pretty big man-ish arms only loong sleeves for me and i'm still pretty muscular and still when i'm looking in a mirrior i see a man, maybe it's in my head.
I'm 36 now i would go trought transition when iw as 28 but i was told i will NEVER look as female and i could never pass, and that was in TS support group in my country.
Yes, I think it is in your head. I can't imagine why a support group would even say something like that - they must have been jealous and wanted to crush your soul or something. You have proved them wrong.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 19, 2014, 03:23:50 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 19, 2014, 03:23:50 AM
Hi Nati
Funny how I wouldn't pass as well as you do now at this moment but I was never told I wouldnt look as a women, maybe because Ive always looked andro
You're making a big step in the right direction, you look like a woman from what I can see
How do you feel about it, happier?
Edit: Yes some TS in support groups are pretty vile/envious. I try to give feedback occasionally if I think someone wouldnt pass without being a bitch about it
Funny how I wouldn't pass as well as you do now at this moment but I was never told I wouldnt look as a women, maybe because Ive always looked andro
You're making a big step in the right direction, you look like a woman from what I can see
How do you feel about it, happier?
Edit: Yes some TS in support groups are pretty vile/envious. I try to give feedback occasionally if I think someone wouldnt pass without being a bitch about it
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:31:39 AM
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:31:39 AM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 19, 2014, 03:23:50 AM
Hi Nati
Funny how I wouldn't pass as well as you do now at this moment but I was never told I wouldnt look as a women, maybe because Ive always looked andro
You're making a big step in the right direction, you look like a woman from what I can see
How do you feel about it, happier?
Edit: Yes some TS in support groups are pretty vile/envious. I try to give feedback occasionally if I think someone wouldnt pass without being a bitch about it
Yes, i'm happier a lot happier i feel like i'm in right place , but i also know people are cruel :/
That i was looking like 12 years ago, i'm pretty big i needed that at that time to protect myself against cruel people.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fs4c58g.jpg&hash=b69eb48f1129628506b4f59bb816dd587b3c28f0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on July 19, 2014, 03:39:51 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on July 19, 2014, 03:39:51 AM
Nati, you look very feminine. I also wouldn't worry about the arms.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 19, 2014, 03:41:09 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 19, 2014, 03:41:09 AM
I've got bullied and physicially harassed for looking/acting gay and feminine quite a bit so I know the cruel part
Happy you're feeling happier, you'll probably get less cruel reactions (if they happen) if you continue the way you're going now
Vivien
Happy you're feeling happier, you'll probably get less cruel reactions (if they happen) if you continue the way you're going now
Vivien
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 03:41:27 AM
Post by: Wynternight on July 19, 2014, 03:41:27 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Hello everyone,
sorry for my english.
I'm wondering if i could pass as female in everyday life, i'm now 8th month on HRT and i'm still afraid to go out.
First photo was taken 1,5month on HRT, second one about 5th month on HRT, i know i'm pretty big and i got muscles but i have pretty hard time to loose my weight even with diet and excercises.
And yes i'm wearing a wig on my big head.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F292mudl.jpg&hash=e0b0d20f223797b46b37413a5f473bb56ad64e1d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F219z69g.jpg&hash=16b1dc00cbddb2d883240b4fd987e4318b4a386d)
I don't think you have any issues passing and that dimple is adorable! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:49:41 AM
Post by: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:49:41 AM
Thank you all, i'm really feel better now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 19, 2014, 07:19:14 AM
Post by: Allyda on July 19, 2014, 07:19:14 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:16:58 AMI think you need another support group. I have to go along with Ms. Grace on this one. You shouldn't have any trouble passing. Yea, I think they're jealous too. You have great skin, pretty eyes, and a nice round face. Total male fail!!
I got pretty big man-ish arms only loong sleeves for me and i'm still pretty muscular and still when i'm looking in a mirrior i see a man, maybe it's in my head.
I'm 36 now i would go trought transition when iw as 28 but i was told i will NEVER look as female and i could never pass, and that was in TS support group in my country.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 19, 2014, 08:52:50 AM
Post by: Shantel on July 19, 2014, 08:52:50 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
Hello everyone,
sorry for my english.
I'm wondering if i could pass as female in everyday life, i'm now 8th month on HRT and i'm still afraid to go out.
First photo was taken 1,5month on HRT, second one about 5th month on HRT, i know i'm pretty big and i got muscles but i have pretty hard time to loose my weight even with diet and excercises.
And yes i'm wearing a wig on my big head.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F292mudl.jpg&hash=e0b0d20f223797b46b37413a5f473bb56ad64e1d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F219z69g.jpg&hash=16b1dc00cbddb2d883240b4fd987e4318b4a386d)
Oh my gosh you are pretty! Don't worry about muscular arms, over time on female HRT the muscles will atrophy as long as you refrain from lifting weights and do only cardio if you work out, the arms will lean out considerably in time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 19, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
Post by: katiej on July 19, 2014, 03:42:09 PM
Nati...holy crap! Forget the arms...you're beautiful. I'm the same age as you and I really hope HRT is as kind to me as it has been to you.
On an unrelated note, I've noticed that wearing feminine glasses helps in the overall presentation. I have good eyesight, but wearing frames does make me look more feminine. What do you all think?
On an unrelated note, I've noticed that wearing feminine glasses helps in the overall presentation. I have good eyesight, but wearing frames does make me look more feminine. What do you all think?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 20, 2014, 12:19:07 AM
Post by: Nati on July 20, 2014, 12:19:07 AM
Oh my, thanks for all compliments, i don't feel pretty ot beautiful but i hope i will see myself as you see me, one day.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 20, 2014, 12:30:58 AM
Post by: Wynternight on July 20, 2014, 12:30:58 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 20, 2014, 12:19:07 AM
Oh my, thanks for all compliments, i don't feel pretty ot beautiful but i hope i will see myself as you see me, one day.
We tend to be our own worst critics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:10:33 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:10:33 AM
Quote from: Nati on July 19, 2014, 03:03:20 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fs4c58g.jpg&hash=b69eb48f1129628506b4f59bb816dd587b3c28f0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F219z69g.jpg&hash=16b1dc00cbddb2d883240b4fd987e4318b4a386d)
That's a pretty incredible before and after Nati! You look absolutely stunning now.
And ouch! I don't envy getting all that chest hair removed...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:16:37 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:16:37 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
Wow Liz, you are looking pretty fab at fifty--and pre-hormones too! Simply incredible. I really like how demure and feminine you look in that picture. I definitely see a beautiful woman there.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:27:49 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:27:49 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 16, 2014, 10:50:27 PM
Here I am after my drastic weight loss. What do people think?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0014_zpsd57a88a0.jpg&hash=30a991c710fbc6c360d93ef633080ca240fb67be)
You look fantastic Wynternight, all girl from what I see. And congrats on loosing the weight! It certainly can be a difficult thing to do. It's amazing what one can aspire towards and achieve with the right motivations. And I can't think of a better motivation than to want a life that reflects one's true self.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:34:41 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:34:41 AM
Quote from: Laurelin on July 18, 2014, 11:49:28 AM
this time a picture of me in girlmode rather than andro clothes :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FkQEStn7.jpg%3F1&hash=fc6c2dd82e7fafe2c019e239abddc92f6b5e49b1)
I know my hair is a mess and I really need to start practicing makeup
Pretty cute Laurelin! I like that dress. It suits you well. What's the up close of the pattern look like?
Don't fret too much about hair and makeup. You still look good. And those skills will get better in time as you practice, experiment, and study techniques.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on July 20, 2014, 03:42:46 AM
Post by: Nati on July 20, 2014, 03:42:46 AM
Quote from: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:10:33 AM
And ouch! I don't envy getting all that chest hair removed...
It's not that bad, i was waxing my chest for like 10 years now ( first time was Ouuuuch ) , then hormones do some work, now i was after first laser on my chest and it was 0 pain at all, can't wait for second one :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:48:14 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:48:14 AM
Quote from: Natalia on July 16, 2014, 08:26:17 PM
Today, after more than one year and a half away from scissors...I paid a visit to the hair stylist and...finally I can stop wearing wigs!!!
I know I was a bit away from the forum, but I'd appreciate a few (sincere) comments =)
Do I look or could I pass as female? Did I reach the male phail phase at last or not yet? =P (sorry for the poor lightning). From today on this will be my everyday look, should I expect to get a few strange looks on the street?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10491979_1525279427691516_8482445231156666308_n.jpg)
Umm.. yeah. You are definitely past male fail Natalia. And I must say, I really dig the new hair style on you. No offense, but it looks a lot better than some of the wigs you were using. You really look great!
And grats on going FT, you probably posted elsewhere and I missed it. But that is awesome and must be incredible to go out as yourself every day. Good for you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 20, 2014, 08:45:27 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 20, 2014, 08:45:27 AM
Welcome to the site Paisley :)
We're both on HRT for 3 months and it's a pitty you dont get the results you hoped for yet, maybe your dosage needs changing*fingers crossed*
I'm not sure what advice would fit you but I can just throw a few ideas up:
Haircut? Ask your hairdresser for a more feminine cut, bring an example. I use a wig atm but that's not something I would recommend if you can use your own hair
Makeup? Well a foundation and some concealer doesnt necesarrily have to break your boy mode but it can enhance your face looking smoother and more femme. Add some mascara and light lipgloss/stick if that doesnt make you feel uncomfy.
Clothing: Trendy unisex clothing can is pretty comforming, definately better than clear cut male clothing. I dont know if you are restricted to that however
Jewelry: A necklace, bracelet...this is one of the easier things since there's so much variation. My favourite part
I have a picture of myself on page 41. This is probably a little too much for everyday use but it's an example of how I am slowly growing to a more feminine look.
I'm sure the experts here can help you even more ;)
Vivien
We're both on HRT for 3 months and it's a pitty you dont get the results you hoped for yet, maybe your dosage needs changing*fingers crossed*
I'm not sure what advice would fit you but I can just throw a few ideas up:
Haircut? Ask your hairdresser for a more feminine cut, bring an example. I use a wig atm but that's not something I would recommend if you can use your own hair
Makeup? Well a foundation and some concealer doesnt necesarrily have to break your boy mode but it can enhance your face looking smoother and more femme. Add some mascara and light lipgloss/stick if that doesnt make you feel uncomfy.
Clothing: Trendy unisex clothing can is pretty comforming, definately better than clear cut male clothing. I dont know if you are restricted to that however
Jewelry: A necklace, bracelet...this is one of the easier things since there's so much variation. My favourite part
I have a picture of myself on page 41. This is probably a little too much for everyday use but it's an example of how I am slowly growing to a more feminine look.
I'm sure the experts here can help you even more ;)
Vivien
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on July 20, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
Post by: Natalia on July 20, 2014, 12:11:39 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 20, 2014, 03:48:14 AM
Umm.. yeah. You are definitely past male fail Natalia. And I must say, I really dig the new hair style on you. No offense, but it looks a lot better than some of the wigs you were using. You really look great!
And grats on going FT, you probably posted elsewhere and I missed it. But that is awesome and must be incredible to go out as yourself every day. Good for you!
Thanks Alaia! =D
I am not yet FT, but I don't wear masculine clothing anymore...just unissex and some feminine pieces (usually baby dolls, feminine jeans and unissex or feminine tennis)...I am not wearing exclusively feminine clothes yet....but having a much more feminine hairstyle now, I believe it will be harder to conceal that I am not a man... before, with balding areas really evident, it was impossible to tell that I was not a man...now I think people will become more confused about my gender...
Friday I was walking on the streets at night with my everyday look. Most poeple walked and didn't give me any attention or strange looks...but then a couple passed by and the guy commented "wow, there are transvetites here"...
This comment brought me a few strange feelings. I don't know if I feel happy because it was the first time I was not being misgendered as a man, or if I feel sad because people could clock me as a trans...
But at the same time I am seriously considering really starting going FT and see what happens....
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sophiaInside on July 20, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
Post by: sophiaInside on July 20, 2014, 08:21:30 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 18, 2014, 11:41:22 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zpsb2203bd7.jpg&hash=1c2f2b0d7d154b385d06a7d8a38531be4655a7d3) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zpsb2203bd7.jpg.html)
New pic today after my blood test! Still pre hormones at 50! Trying to look pretty for summer. No glasses but I'm now blind as a bat! Need them! Nice to be girly despite my age :-)
You look awesome, very feminine, and love that hair color on you, looks good girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 20, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 20, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Dressed for work.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0016_zpsb6aa6fce.jpg&hash=9ea764690d98cda43a5715bfedab36594acd143b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0017_zps25a27e38.jpg&hash=9c9c1160142ab48b1bf0586d9045478dcb7bf355)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0016_zpsb6aa6fce.jpg&hash=9ea764690d98cda43a5715bfedab36594acd143b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0017_zps25a27e38.jpg&hash=9c9c1160142ab48b1bf0586d9045478dcb7bf355)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AM
I have so many compliments regarding "new" hair colour! Feeling a little more confident about myself now :-). Went out for lunch with a few Scottish local girls from this community on Saturday and had a lovely time . Just felt so old in comparison :embarrassed:. Any way have switched back to brunette for now! The joys of having many wigs to choose from !!! Desperately need to find expert in facial hair removal as don't want to rely on such heavy make up cover when going out. All the young girls I went out with on Saturday had such flawless shadow free complexions!
Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps521d4eae.jpg&hash=57d27893cbe3fededb3a6f46040bf89390898d8c) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps521d4eae.jpg.html)
Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps521d4eae.jpg&hash=57d27893cbe3fededb3a6f46040bf89390898d8c) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps521d4eae.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on July 21, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Post by: Brenda E on July 21, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AM
Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour?
Hmmm. Both look great on you, but I'd go for the brunette right now. The plum, being something that stands out more in a crowd, might be something that attracts more attention than you're comfortable with if you're still not satisfied with your general complexion. The brunette looks utterly natural and might help you blend in with the other girls a little more.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on July 21, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
Post by: Starla on July 21, 2014, 10:33:49 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 20, 2014, 10:27:32 PM
Dressed for work.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0016_zpsb6aa6fce.jpg&hash=9ea764690d98cda43a5715bfedab36594acd143b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb577%2FWynternight93%2FPicture0017_zps25a27e38.jpg&hash=9c9c1160142ab48b1bf0586d9045478dcb7bf355)
Nice, I wish my hair was that long. I'm wearing a wig in my signature lol. Natural hair is about shoulder length! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 21, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 21, 2014, 01:59:01 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AMI like this wig on you better than any of your others I've seen so far. It looks the most natural. Just my $.02.
I have so many compliments regarding "new" hair colour! Feeling a little more confident about myself now :-). Went out for lunch with a few Scottish local girls from this community on Saturday and had a lovely time . Just felt so old in comparison :embarrassed:. Any way have switched back to brunette for now! The joys of having many wigs to choose from !!! Desperately need to find expert in facial hair removal as don't want to rely on such heavy make up cover when going out. All the young girls I went out with on Saturday had such flawless shadow free complexions!
Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps521d4eae.jpg&hash=57d27893cbe3fededb3a6f46040bf89390898d8c) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps521d4eae.jpg.html)
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 03:04:39 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 03:04:39 PM
Allie, Brenda, thanks for your kind comments. For every day wear you are correct. Brunette is a more natural look.Need to check on electrolysis and laser. Hoping that when I come through second assessment for hrt this will also be offered on nhs. I have heard conflicting reports- electrolysis could cause scaring while laser is ineffective on white hairs. No point in being made up only for facial hair to be evident! Beard shadow just freaks me out and heightens my dysphoria. Maybe this should be another topic! Thanks girls xxx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 21, 2014, 03:37:29 PM
Post by: Hikari on July 21, 2014, 03:37:29 PM
@Elizabeth1: I like the brunette look the most, but then again as a brunette myself, maybe I am biased :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 22, 2014, 05:27:17 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 22, 2014, 05:27:17 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AMPersonally, of the two pictures I'd say the one with the plum wig is better--simply because I like how the plum hair color ties in with the necklace and flowers on the dress. Although I think for blending in better and attracting less attention the brunette wig is probably best.
...Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 03:29:02 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 03:04:39 PMThat is correct laser is ineffective on grays, white hairs, blonde hairs, and red hairs. Dark hair with light skin yields the best results with laser. While electrolysis does have a potential for scarring, it is effective on all hair types and colors.
I have heard conflicting reports- electrolysis could cause scaring while laser is ineffective on white hairs. No point in being made up only for facial hair to be evident! Beard shadow just freaks me out and heightens my dysphoria. Maybe this should be another topic! Thanks girls xxx
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
New clothes, makeup and made my own breastforms (though I realllllly need a new filler for them, cotton is not working.. will get some microbeads next time I can go shopping).
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What do you think? Is the makeup too much?
I think I need to get a new eyebrow pencil, something a lot lighter, and as much as I love the bold lipstick, I think it's a bit over the top.
Also the wig, still have not been able to go wig shopping. This one is obviously costume quality *sigh* thoughts?
Eyeshadow/blush probably would not hurt either.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-7_zps226a9b83.jpg&hash=899f475a96eebfa7a04475017e7832b3c53e6db8)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-6_zpsb2f4306a.jpg&hash=dba0f57f8b90b62a4ee2c0416937159fbcc03136)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-5_zpse2dbbee4.jpg&hash=0d3e756a682360078802603eb5f58a3a68fa6831)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-4_zpsee872eea.jpg&hash=0441507e29b48645695164f204967bd6acc4ad0b)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-3_zps58a8fe62.jpg&hash=e633c5ae844a9669826bd431125802cf1588cbaf)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-2_zps0832a35b.jpg&hash=cfe9c9cdccecd0f77edfb6a7a1ee18f237223ed8)
What do you think? Is the makeup too much?
I think I need to get a new eyebrow pencil, something a lot lighter, and as much as I love the bold lipstick, I think it's a bit over the top.
Also the wig, still have not been able to go wig shopping. This one is obviously costume quality *sigh* thoughts?
Eyeshadow/blush probably would not hurt either.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 03:34:51 PMYou have such a beautiful smile. Yes, a little eyeshadow in the right shade wouldn't hurt nor would a little blush. Oh and I do like the red lipstick. With your complexion and hair color it works. The only suggestion I can give you is to work on your eyebrows a little. Thin them out from the bottom and try and shape them into an arch over your eyes.
New clothes, makeup and made my own breastforms (though I realllllly need a new filler for them, cotton is not working.. will get some microbeads next time I can go shopping).
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-7_zps226a9b83.jpg&hash=899f475a96eebfa7a04475017e7832b3c53e6db8)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-6_zpsb2f4306a.jpg&hash=dba0f57f8b90b62a4ee2c0416937159fbcc03136)
What do you think? Is the makeup too much?
I think I need to get a new eyebrow pencil, something a lot lighter, and as much as I love the bold lipstick, I think it's a bit over the top.
Also the wig, still have not been able to go wig shopping. This one is obviously costume quality *sigh* thoughts?
Eyeshadow/blush probably would not hurt either.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 04:13:23 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 04:13:23 PM
Quote from: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 03:43:46 PM
You have such a beautiful smile. Yes, a little eyeshadow in the right shade wouldn't hurt nor would a little blush. Oh and I do like the red lipstick. With your complexion and hair color it works. The only suggestion I can give you is to work on your eyebrows a little. Thin them out from the bottom and try and shape them into an arch over your eyes.
Allie :icon_flower:
My only concern with thinning my eyebrows is that I still haven't told man people and people who do not know will notice... ugh.. I may go ahead and do it.. It is soooo tempting.
I don't have any eye shadow, dark foundation or dark concealer, or blush. I could steal that all from our film supplies.. my SO might kill me though :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 22, 2014, 05:14:37 PM
Post by: Hikari on July 22, 2014, 05:14:37 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 22, 2014, 04:13:23 PM
My only concern with thinning my eyebrows is that I still haven't told man people and people who do not know will notice... ugh.. I may go ahead and do it.. It is soooo tempting.
I don't have any eye shadow, dark foundation or dark concealer, or blush. I could steal that all from our film supplies.. my SO might kill me though :D
You know, no one seemed to notice my eyebrows no matter what I did to them. IDK why, but it seems like people notice a change but, they can't put their finger exactly on that change.
As far as your look I think you look quite good, but I do feel like the lipstick being so vibrant, with the brows being so dark, and the hair being so light throws the balance off a bit. I bet some lip gloss and maybe just a bit thinner eyebrows would look really natural and really good. In my view, there is no one feature of yours I can just point to and say, "That looks masculine", so I would say so long as you have the confidence you should certainly pass.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 22, 2014, 06:36:58 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 22, 2014, 06:36:58 PM
Hikari and alaia, thanks again for hair colour comments!
To allie, thanks for backing up my thoughts on electrolysis. Facial hair growth is just killing me- gets me down so bad!! I have a combination of dark and white hairs so I'm torn on the best hair removal treatment between laser and electrolysis? My back up gender clinic appointment is probably about 2 months away but I can't wait for this meeting! Maybe both are options. There are groupon discount deals available here in uk but I don't know how transgender friendly many of these salons are. DIY home kits are options but what to go for. Dysphoria getting me down again after my brief periods of elation last week. Annabella, hikari - from your pics you both have beautiful complexions With facial growth not appearing an issue at all! That's wonderful :-). Any thoughts regarding hair removal options would be gratefully appreciated . Restarting anti androgens (spironolactone)could be an option to slow down facial growth but I decided due to bone density fears to dismiss this pending getting my hrt - hopefully in September. This literal dark shadow is threatening to overwhelm me right now :-(
To allie, thanks for backing up my thoughts on electrolysis. Facial hair growth is just killing me- gets me down so bad!! I have a combination of dark and white hairs so I'm torn on the best hair removal treatment between laser and electrolysis? My back up gender clinic appointment is probably about 2 months away but I can't wait for this meeting! Maybe both are options. There are groupon discount deals available here in uk but I don't know how transgender friendly many of these salons are. DIY home kits are options but what to go for. Dysphoria getting me down again after my brief periods of elation last week. Annabella, hikari - from your pics you both have beautiful complexions With facial growth not appearing an issue at all! That's wonderful :-). Any thoughts regarding hair removal options would be gratefully appreciated . Restarting anti androgens (spironolactone)could be an option to slow down facial growth but I decided due to bone density fears to dismiss this pending getting my hrt - hopefully in September. This literal dark shadow is threatening to overwhelm me right now :-(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 22, 2014, 07:26:42 PM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 22, 2014, 06:36:58 PMI didn't have a whole lot of facial hair to begin with being Native American, but about a quarter of what I did have had turned gray. I got my own lasers and over the last year have cleared all of the dark hair from my face, and, some of the gray's went with it. What I plan to do for the remaining grays is book electro to get rid of them. By clearing all the dark hairs and some grays myself I've drastically reduced the number of electro sessions I'll need to clear the remaining grays. Thereby saving a good amount of $$.
Hikari and alaia, thanks again for hair colour comments!
To allie, thanks for backing up my thoughts on electrolysis. Facial hair growth is just killing me- gets me down so bad!! I have a combination of dark and white hairs so I'm torn on the best hair removal treatment between laser and electrolysis? My back up gender clinic appointment is probably about 2 months away but I can't wait for this meeting! Maybe both are options. There are groupon discount deals available here in uk but I don't know how transgender friendly many of these salons are. DIY home kits are options but what to go for. Dysphoria getting me down again after my brief periods of elation last week. Annabella, hikari - from your pics you both have beautiful complexions With facial growth not appearing an issue at all! That's wonderful :-). Any thoughts regarding hair removal options would be gratefully appreciated . Restarting anti androgens (spironolactone)could be an option to slow down facial growth but I decided due to bone density fears to dismiss this pending getting my hrt - hopefully in September. This literal dark shadow is threatening to overwhelm me right now :-(
Should you decide to go this route, the only personal laser devices worth having are the Tria, and the Silk-in Flash-n-Go. I have these and one professional grade laser that treats 60 hairs at a time.
In the meantime I plan to pluck the remaining grays. I've been couped up for two days in my home waiting for them to get long enough to do so.
Hope this helps ya!
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 22, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 22, 2014, 10:34:29 PM
Practicing with makeup:
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 22, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 22, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
I think there are more pics of me here than there are anywhere else in the world!
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ErinS on July 22, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Post by: ErinS on July 22, 2014, 10:54:08 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 22, 2014, 05:14:37 PM
You know, no one seemed to notice my eyebrows no matter what I did to them. IDK why, but it seems like people notice a change but, they can't put their finger exactly on that change.
Guy I knew shaved his eyebrows off after losing a bet. People would do a double take, then stare at him for a moment until they realized his brows were missing. It seems that brows are one of those things that have an effect on the rest of the face, but as long as they're in some kind of normal range they don't stand out themselves.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on July 23, 2014, 03:29:25 AM
Post by: Danniella on July 23, 2014, 03:29:25 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 21, 2014, 07:51:07 AM
I have so many compliments regarding "new" hair colour! Feeling a little more confident about myself now :-). Went out for lunch with a few Scottish local girls from this community on Saturday and had a lovely time . Just felt so old in comparison :embarrassed:. Any way have switched back to brunette for now! The joys of having many wigs to choose from !!! Desperately need to find expert in facial hair removal as don't want to rely on such heavy make up cover when going out. All the young girls I went out with on Saturday had such flawless shadow free complexions!
Any way - plum or brunette for hair colour? (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi105.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm225%2FElizabeth123%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps521d4eae.jpg&hash=57d27893cbe3fededb3a6f46040bf89390898d8c) (http://s105.photobucket.com/user/Elizabeth123/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps521d4eae.jpg.html)
I sat across the table from you for hours at the weekend and didn't even realise you were wearing a wig! D:
I was internally jealous of your lovely long hair the whole time! xD
Personally though, looking at the pics, I prefer the brunette colour. While the plum is nice, I think the brunette just looks more natural and "you" (Disclaimer: This is coming from a girl with like 5 colours in her hair, so yeah, do what makes you feel best ^^ )
I need to get some electrolysis too though >.> Most people seem to think I have already had it done because I have very fine and very light hair, but nooooope!!!
It's a daily battle for me to shave as close as possible without causing myself razer burn...it may not be as noticeable looking at me...but you can bet that I can feel and obsess over even the tiniest grain of sand like facial hairs :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 23, 2014, 03:55:14 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 23, 2014, 03:55:14 AM
@Wynternight - You look pretty good in those pics, but it's hard to see how your makeup turned out. The pictures are too bright and have your face mostly washed out.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: kasika on July 23, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
Post by: kasika on July 23, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 22, 2014, 10:38:34 PM
I think there are more pics of me here than there are anywhere else in the world!
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We can't see anything in those pics for your makeup, the lighting is fubar.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 23, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 23, 2014, 12:22:38 PM
Hi Elaine!! Hey great that you thought my hair was my own! Just keep it that way :D ;). I was thinking maybe your eyesight was not so good after your glasses of wine! :-) I thought all the girls had just great clear complexions on Saturday. I however relied on lots of make up to cover blemishes!!
Facial Hair growth just freaks me out. The longer of course I'm out socialising or whatever causes agitation if any stubble appears even faintly. Hrt when it starts will maybe slow growth. Ultimately it is laser or electrolysis that will do the business and help me pass a little better without getting anxious.
Anyway Elaine, great to hear from you. Must arrange another day out!! Hugs xxx
Facial Hair growth just freaks me out. The longer of course I'm out socialising or whatever causes agitation if any stubble appears even faintly. Hrt when it starts will maybe slow growth. Ultimately it is laser or electrolysis that will do the business and help me pass a little better without getting anxious.
Anyway Elaine, great to hear from you. Must arrange another day out!! Hugs xxx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 23, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 23, 2014, 12:32:36 PM
Quote from: kasika on July 23, 2014, 08:54:54 AM
We can't see anything in those pics for your makeup, the lighting is fubar.
My webcam kind of sucks. I'll play with settings on it tonight and see if I can clean it up.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on July 23, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
Post by: Danniella on July 23, 2014, 01:21:45 PM
Hey all!
Been some time since I posted anything...but today I wore something without a high collar (something I tend to do a lot these days) and I got freaked out by how much muscle I have lost off my neck and shoulders! D:
I look like a giraffe!
So I thought "Hey! Lets see what the girls think!"
Thought/opinions/insults/condolences/threats of violence/large cash sums all welcome!
(Me being Nice)
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(Me Being Crazy)
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(Me falling asleep...it was a long day okay! xD )
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Been some time since I posted anything...but today I wore something without a high collar (something I tend to do a lot these days) and I got freaked out by how much muscle I have lost off my neck and shoulders! D:
I look like a giraffe!
So I thought "Hey! Lets see what the girls think!"
Thought/opinions/insults/condolences/threats of violence/large cash sums all welcome!
(Me being Nice)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t31.0-8/10556885_809428895757957_2887681336571838313_o.jpg)
(Me Being Crazy)
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(Me falling asleep...it was a long day okay! xD )
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 23, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
Post by: Elizabeth1 on July 23, 2014, 04:29:33 PM
Yes, you do have a slim and slender neck. Omg - you are turning into a giraffe- do you have a desire and craving to stretch out to tall trees and eat leaves??? :-) - only teasing. You are very elegant. Your body shape is clearly changing - I'm envious and want my hrt now! I dream of facial hair free face and bouncing boobs :-) got to dream !
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 23, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 23, 2014, 07:56:00 PM
Danniella,
Your neck looks very proportionately female, don't cover it up you look good.
Your neck looks very proportionately female, don't cover it up you look good.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 23, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 23, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 23, 2014, 07:56:00 PMAgreed you look very feminine Danniella and you have such flawless skin.
Danniella,
Your neck looks very proportionately female, don't cover it up you look good.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 12:06:26 AM
Post by: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 12:06:26 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 23, 2014, 08:28:24 PMditto
Agreed you look very feminine Danniella and you have such flawless skin.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on July 24, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on July 24, 2014, 12:24:39 AM
I'm going to third that.
I've got no cash, though. Sorry.
I've got no cash, though. Sorry.
Quote from: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 12:06:26 AM
ditto
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Post by: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
Quote from: Elizabeth1 on July 23, 2014, 04:29:33 PMYou'll get there. 6 Months and I just felt the first bit of "Jiggle" on my chest when I was galloping down the stairs from my flat the other day there...quite the surreal experience xD
Yes, you do have a slim and slender neck. Omg - you are turning into a giraffe- do you have a desire and craving to stretch out to tall trees and eat leaves??? :-) - only teasing. You are very elegant. Your body shape is clearly changing - I'm envious and want my hrt now! I dream of facial hair free face and bouncing boobs :-) got to dream !
I do eat a lot more salad than I used to as well >.>
I shall become "GIRAFFE WOMAN!" a Scottish superhero with the power of stretchy neck!
...
Needs some work.
Quote from: Shantel on July 23, 2014, 07:56:00 PMThanks ^^ It wasn't even a conscious thing I was doing xD I just wear a lot of shirts to work etc so it caught me off guard O.O
Danniella,
Your neck looks very proportionately female, don't cover it up you look good.
Quote from: Allyda on July 23, 2014, 08:28:24 PM
Agreed you look very feminine Danniella and you have such flawless skin.
Allie :icon_flower:
Quote from: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 12:06:26 AMMy skin
ditto
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on July 24, 2014, 12:24:39 AMMy skin is actually pretty bad, and very freckly (Especially at this time of the year)...I am just pretty good at covering it up with "natural" makeup :D
I'm going to third that.
I've got no cash, though. Sorry.
I can't do "Going out" makeup to save myself, but I sure can cover up some acne scars, bags under eyes and freckles ^^#
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Post by: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nala on July 24, 2014, 05:14:45 AM
Post by: Nala on July 24, 2014, 05:14:45 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Definite pass for me. ^^ Wouldn't have known had you not said!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on July 24, 2014, 06:27:50 AM
Post by: Brenda E on July 24, 2014, 06:27:50 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
A definite pass from me too, without question. Your hair is what my hair dreams of being when it grows up.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
Post by: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
Quote from: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:46:33 AM
My skin My skin is actually pretty bad, and very freckly
Freckles?! Don't cover your freckles! I love those little things, they are adorable!
@Galaxy- you are positively gorgeous! I love your eyes!
@Wynternight- from what I can tell from those photos, you pass really well. You look adorable and nerdy, kinda like a cutie you'd see at a renn faire. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on July 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AM
Post by: Hikari on July 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Wow Galaxy, you are actually kinda hot. You actually remind me alot of Amy Lee (lead singer of Evanescence):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalinsider.net%2Fsite%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Famylee.jpg&hash=5b06432308e01ea71b9d2b9be699e327e4123689)
From your posts about HRT I wouldn't have thought you look like you do, you are very feminine. You jaw is visibly less wide than your cheekbones, your chin is rounded not square, your brows are good, your shoulders are good, and your skin looks nothing short of amazing. If I saw you on the street I would have no idea you were trans at all. I would just be thinking about getting your number lol
@Danniella:
I have freckles all over my face and I love them Embrace the freckles :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 08:50:19 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 08:50:19 AM
Quote from: Hikari on July 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AM
Wow Galaxy, you are actually kinda hot. You actually remind me alot of Amy Lee (lead singer of Evanescence):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalinsider.net%2Fsite%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Famylee.jpg&hash=5b06432308e01ea71b9d2b9be699e327e4123689)
From your posts about HRT I wouldn't have thought you look like you do, you are very feminine. You jaw is visibly less wide than your cheekbones, your chin is rounded not square, your brows are good, your shoulders are good, and your skin looks nothing short of amazing. If I saw you on the street I would have no idea you were trans at all. I would just be thinking about getting your number lol
@Danniella:
I have freckles all over my face and I love them Embrace the freckles :)
"Hustlin' Hikari"
I couldnt resist >:-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jessicas37 on July 24, 2014, 09:10:03 AM
Post by: jessicas37 on July 24, 2014, 09:10:03 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1129.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm515%2FMandy_Dawn1%2Fmd_zpse1ff7837.jpg&hash=cf831f9efe57bb99e2973a84116757367ced30c3) (http://s1129.photobucket.com/user/Mandy_Dawn1/media/md_zpse1ff7837.jpg.html)
most current
most current
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
Post by: stephaniec on July 24, 2014, 10:48:31 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AMyou have been so brutally critical of the woman in the picture. she's beautiful , now stop it
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
Post by: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
Quote from: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 07:02:29 AM
Freckles?! Don't cover your freckles! I love those little things, they are adorable!
Quote from: Hikari on July 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AM
@Danniella:
I have freckles all over my face and I love them Embrace the freckles :)
You are underestimating the quantity of freckles in question...it's not an odd smattering on the cheeks in a cute manner...it's more a "Woah...what happened to your face? Do you have a disease!?" ^^;
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AMD: Wow...yeah passing!
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 24, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 24, 2014, 01:05:31 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
For the life of me I don't know what all the envy, whining, pissing and moaning has been about, you look just terrific, very feminine and pretty. Glad you posted a photo because for awhile you had me convinced that you were just a hopeless, ugly, scrawny little thing and look at you, you look just great hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:07:33 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:07:33 PM
Trying to play a little more subtle with the makeup today.
Here is my last try, which was a bit over the top.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-7_zps226a9b83.jpg&hash=899f475a96eebfa7a04475017e7832b3c53e6db8)
Here is me today, with a much less overpowering application :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2Fanna3-1_zps46bbf76b.jpg&hash=112b88049e385531b312b4d20f362ec73b2c9f7b)
Better?
Here is my last try, which was a bit over the top.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-7_zps226a9b83.jpg&hash=899f475a96eebfa7a04475017e7832b3c53e6db8)
Here is me today, with a much less overpowering application :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2Fanna3-1_zps46bbf76b.jpg&hash=112b88049e385531b312b4d20f362ec73b2c9f7b)
Better?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:10:52 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:10:52 PM
It's mostly in your head and your only Ms.galaxy. I have similair issues. In your case it's DEFINITELY unwarranted
However, you need to start believing it yourself or you'll never be/feel free
However, you need to start believing it yourself or you'll never be/feel free
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:07:33 PM
Trying to play a little more subtle with the makeup today.
Here is my last try, which was a bit over the top.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FAnna2-7_zps226a9b83.jpg&hash=899f475a96eebfa7a04475017e7832b3c53e6db8)
Here is me today, with a much less overpowering application :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2Fanna3-1_zps46bbf76b.jpg&hash=112b88049e385531b312b4d20f362ec73b2c9f7b)
Better?
Hey Annabella, nice to see you again ;)
I keep thinking "That wig needs to be dark or your brows needs to be light" Hard compromise I know but it doesnt look natural otherwise. Nice skin and that top you're wearing in both pics would be a "must buy!" one for me, love elegant black :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:22:17 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:22:17 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:14:47 PM
Hey Annabella, nice to see you again ;)
I keep thinking "That wig needs to be dark or your brows needs to be light" Hard compromise I know but it doesnt look natural otherwise. Nice skin and that top you're wearing in both pics would be a "must buy!" one for me, love elegant black :)
Thank you YinYanga ;)
Regarding the wig.. I have access to five wigs from props right now. This one is the least offensive to my sanity. I will be ordering a darker one soon, but for now I am stuck with this.... thing on my head haha. I think I could have done with a bit more eyeliner today.. it's just soooo hard to wash off later :]
As for the top, I found it on the bargain rack at Target.. it is currently the only totally feminine top I actually own, which is why it is in all my photos XD
While I was at Target one of the employees actually walked by and looked at me all judgingly for being in the women's section and said "Umm... can I help you?" in the most derisive tone.
I responded, in the most polite and happy way I could muster "Nope, I'm just fine thanks!" and kept browsing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:32:19 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:32:19 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 01:22:17 PM
Thank you YinYanga ;)
Regarding the wig.. I have access to five wigs from props right now. This one is the least offensive to my sanity. I will be ordering a darker one soon, but for now I am stuck with this.... thing on my head haha. I think I could have done with a bit more eyeliner today.. it's just soooo hard to wash off later :]
As for the top, I found it on the bargain rack at Target.. it is currently the only totally feminine top I actually own, which is why it is in all my photos XD
While I was at Target one of the employees actually walked by and looked at me all judgingly for being in the women's section and said "Umm... can I help you?" in the most derisive tone.
I responded, in the most polite and happy way I could muster "Nope, I'm just fine thanks!" and kept browsing.
I hate those people aswell...it's so obvious they think you're not in the right place. Just let me be, use your brain, if I need your help I'll ask! ^^
My wardrobe is puny atm aswell, I just have 2 camisole's (simple tops with spaghetti wraps) that I wear. Shopping saturday with my to be sister-in-law, both looking forward to it, need to score some deals so I can go out more often :)
I have had more issues with applying eyeliner than removing it. Olive oil, lotion and a shower afterwards goes a long way removing mascara and eyeliner
My current wig is this one. I'd rather have no wig. Had a makeup consult earlier this week, bit much for everyday I still feel
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2F57erensox%2FEpil_Makeup_21714.jpg&hash=afed5473e67cde02d3b7611f623ed6abbdbbd970) (http://postimg.org/image/rjck81rst/full/)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 24, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
Post by: Megan Joanne on July 24, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
About time you show everyone else your picture. Told you there was nothing to worry about. And I'm completely confident every post regarding you being pretty (and feminine) is 100% honest. You know I said I gave up on you, but really I was still hoping that you'd come around. You really pissed me off with all the whining, mostly because you refused to listen to anything good I had to say, but now I can say that I am really proud of you. I know this was a big step. Sorry I was so hard on you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Post by: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Quote from: Danniella on July 24, 2014, 12:23:43 PM
You are underestimating the quantity of freckles in question...it's not an odd smattering on the cheeks in a cute manner...it's more a "Woah...what happened to your face? Do you have a disease!?" ^^;
Oh pshaw! I love freckles, they are adorable and give faces such cutie pie character! *wants to see the freckles*... :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 02:50:34 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 02:50:34 PM
Quote from: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Oh pshaw! I love freckles, they are adorable and give faces such cutie pie character! *wants to see the freckles*... :)
Best post of the day
+1 Muffinpants
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 03:09:43 PM
Post by: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 03:09:43 PM
Quote from: Megan Joanne on July 24, 2014, 02:41:59 PM
About time you show everyone else your picture. Told you there was nothing to worry about. And I'm completely confident every post regarding you being pretty (and feminine) is 100% honest. You know I said I gave up on you, but really I was still hoping that you'd come around. You really pissed me off with all the whining, mostly because you refused to listen to anything good I had to say, but now I can say that I am really proud of you. I know this was a big step. Sorry I was so hard on you.
Thanks alot. I try to give my best. Its one of my better pictures.
I'm passing as woman, no idea if i'm pretty or not. I never got any feedback from my family, friends, etc ...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 03:12:10 PM
Have you asked them though? I asked my brother last week...bit of a difficult talk however, probably have to ask other people at some point
Talk, talk, ask, ask...feedback is something you need if you're insecure
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
Post by: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
So, I haven't posted here in a while but some of you may have seen me before.. there hasnt been much change, still havent found the courage to face our borderline fascist transgender-commitee, so no HRT :(
That said, I do present female from time to time; what do you think, am I passable or just a lost cause? lol
I am shy and terrified of meeting people's eyes when not in robot-male-mode, but I figure if i post here at least someone will see me and know I am alive..
Apologies in advance for breaking the drop-dead-gorgeous streak you have going on here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
That said, I do present female from time to time; what do you think, am I passable or just a lost cause? lol
I am shy and terrified of meeting people's eyes when not in robot-male-mode, but I figure if i post here at least someone will see me and know I am alive..
Apologies in advance for breaking the drop-dead-gorgeous streak you have going on here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 24, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 24, 2014, 04:57:34 PM
Passable with a capital P!!! Awww yeah! Nice complexion, subtle makeup, nicely shaped brows. I'm jelly. ;D
Quote from: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
So, I haven't posted here in a while but some of you may have seen me before.. there hasnt been much change, still havent found the courage to face our borderline fascist transgender-commitee, so no HRT :(
That said, I do present female from time to time; what do you think, am I passable or just a lost cause? lol
I am shy and terrified of meeting people's eyes when not in robot-male-mode, but I figure if i post here at least someone will see me and know I am alive..
Apologies in advance for breaking the drop-dead-gorgeous streak you have going on here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 05:01:38 PM
Post by: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 05:01:38 PM
Quote from: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
So, I haven't posted here in a while but some of you may have seen me before.. there hasnt been much change, still havent found the courage to face our borderline fascist transgender-commitee, so no HRT :(
That said, I do present female from time to time; what do you think, am I passable or just a lost cause? lol
I am shy and terrified of meeting people's eyes when not in robot-male-mode, but I figure if i post here at least someone will see me and know I am alive..
Apologies in advance for breaking the drop-dead-gorgeous streak you have going on here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
It's only you who says the streak ended >:-)
Welcome back, hope you get to courage to face the 'baddies'. Youre gonna have to eventually and you know that aswell
Vivien
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 24, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Post by: katiej on July 24, 2014, 06:38:16 PM
Anabella, the toned down makeup looks really good. You're missing perhaps the most important thing though...mascara! I recommend spending some time on YouTube watching eye makeup for beginners videos. There are some great ones out there.
Well I've got plenty! My problem right now is that I have to wear such heavy foundation to cover the beard shadow that I have to cover up all my freckles to make my face look even. But once I can get the laser done, I'll be able to tone down the foundation and show off my freckles. Yay for being Irish!! :)
Quote from: muffinpants on July 24, 2014, 02:44:42 PM
Oh pshaw! I love freckles, they are adorable and give faces such cutie pie character! *wants to see the freckles*... :)
Well I've got plenty! My problem right now is that I have to wear such heavy foundation to cover the beard shadow that I have to cover up all my freckles to make my face look even. But once I can get the laser done, I'll be able to tone down the foundation and show off my freckles. Yay for being Irish!! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 06:48:51 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:32:19 PMI wish I had someone to shop with :(
My wardrobe is puny atm aswell, I just have 2 camisole's (simple tops with spaghetti wraps) that I wear. Shopping saturday with my to be sister-in-law, both looking forward to it, need to score some deals so I can go out more often :)
Quote from: YinYanga on July 24, 2014, 01:32:19 PM
My current wig is this one. I'd rather have no wig. Had a makeup consult earlier this week, bit much for everyday I still feel
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2F57erensox%2FEpil_Makeup_21714.jpg&hash=afed5473e67cde02d3b7611f623ed6abbdbbd970) (http://postimg.org/image/rjck81rst/full/)
That wig looks 100 times more natural than mine XD
Also, your lips are incredible, even without that makeup, I would be surprised if you have any trouble passing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Post by: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 07:05:20 PM
Quote from: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
I'm with YinYanga, the streak is not broken.
You pass 100%.
Your subconscious self doubt is just doing it's part to make you your own worst enemy :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on July 24, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on July 24, 2014, 07:10:20 PM
Quote from: Annabella on July 24, 2014, 06:48:51 PMYou ever go through Oklahoma we will shop till we drop girl! :)
I wish I had someone to shop with :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 24, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 24, 2014, 07:16:29 PM
Quote from: Hikari on July 24, 2014, 08:44:40 AMI know, she's pretty isn't she. I've been telling her this for some time now, but she doubted me. Galaxy your very pretty. As for whether your family thinks you are you should ask them. Their answer might surprise you.
Wow Galaxy, you are actually kinda hot. You actually remind me alot of Amy Lee (lead singer of Evanescence):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.metalinsider.net%2Fsite%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2014%2F01%2Famylee.jpg&hash=5b06432308e01ea71b9d2b9be699e327e4123689)
From your posts about HRT I wouldn't have thought you look like you do, you are very feminine. You jaw is visibly less wide than your cheekbones, your chin is rounded not square, your brows are good, your shoulders are good, and your skin looks nothing short of amazing. If I saw you on the street I would have no idea you were trans at all. I would just be thinking about getting your number lol
Thank's Galaxy for posting. I know it took courage. :icon_bunch:
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 24, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 24, 2014, 07:20:11 PM
Quote from: Anastasia E on July 24, 2014, 04:50:36 PMYour a very pretty girl. And no hrt. Your a natural! I'm jelly too!
So, I haven't posted here in a while but some of you may have seen me before.. there hasnt been much change, still havent found the courage to face our borderline fascist transgender-commitee, so no HRT :(
That said, I do present female from time to time; what do you think, am I passable or just a lost cause? lol
I am shy and terrified of meeting people's eyes when not in robot-male-mode, but I figure if i post here at least someone will see me and know I am alive..
Apologies in advance for breaking the drop-dead-gorgeous streak you have going on here :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8sJv9MY.jpg&hash=25be36764d8edbf2b74c68e78a4d77b55f0c467c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fc6gAxuF.jpg&hash=defe8a37310e017d1cf642a8a928619f376b35c2)
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 24, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 24, 2014, 10:55:59 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Delighted to make your acquaintance galaxy ;D
You need to give yourself A-LOT more credit hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anastasia E on July 25, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Post by: Anastasia E on July 25, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words everyone, way to go brightening my day :)
Not sure I quite believe you on all accounts (should have picked more moderate phrasing if you wanted to be believable? lol :D) but you sure did boost my confidence. I do see where you are coming from, sometimes, but from some angles I look distinctly masculine. Oh well.
Oh, and YinYanga and galaxy; you both look 100% cis, if you two have any doubts you really shouldn't have ^^ nothing says male about your appearance whatsoever, you are both gorgeous !
Not sure I quite believe you on all accounts (should have picked more moderate phrasing if you wanted to be believable? lol :D) but you sure did boost my confidence. I do see where you are coming from, sometimes, but from some angles I look distinctly masculine. Oh well.
Oh, and YinYanga and galaxy; you both look 100% cis, if you two have any doubts you really shouldn't have ^^ nothing says male about your appearance whatsoever, you are both gorgeous !
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on July 26, 2014, 01:35:29 AM
Post by: YinYanga on July 26, 2014, 01:35:29 AM
Quote from: Anastasia E on July 25, 2014, 07:44:05 PM
Wow, thank you so much for the kind words everyone, way to go brightening my day :)
Not sure I quite believe you on all accounts (should have picked more moderate phrasing if you wanted to be believable? lol :D) but you sure did boost my confidence. I do see where you are coming from, sometimes, but from some angles I look distinctly masculine. Oh well.
Oh, and YinYanga and galaxy; you both look 100% cis, if you two have any doubts you really shouldn't have ^^ nothing says male about your appearance whatsoever, you are both gorgeous !
You're welcome :)
And trust me, when I dont do makeup, wear andro clothing and dont use my wig I would definately get male. I never go outside without my wig (passes more) or a hat (got called sir yesterday)
It was just 1 good photo sadly, despite what people say
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Miyuki on July 26, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Post by: Miyuki on July 26, 2014, 04:15:50 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
Galaxy, you know around here we have an expression that we are our own harshest critics. But looking at your picture, you have nothing to be critical about. If hormones didn't do very much to help you, that's only because you didn't need the help to begin with. ;) I'm really glad you finally got the courage to post a picture, and I hope that now that you have some actual honest feedback, you'll finally be able learn to stop being so hard on yourself.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on July 26, 2014, 09:10:15 AM
Post by: Auroramarianna on July 26, 2014, 09:10:15 AM
Quote from: galaxy on July 24, 2014, 05:09:51 AM
Here's a picture of me. Hope its okay.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww11.pic-upload.de%2F24.07.14%2F6rlwfypo9ck.jpg&hash=ed3703ad8f511f6bb6ce061741cca9c536fc37e1)
galaxy, you are sooo hard on yourself! I don't know how much you've been on HRT, but you loook so greaaat! Your eyes are so pretty. I agree that you need to give yourself more credit.
Now what you need is to find some inner strength and positive attitude, that's what will attract people , friends and lovers to you :) you need to find a positive resource of energy, and you have no reason to hate on yourself. You're perfect just the way you are.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Post by: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Thanks everyone for your comments.
Maybe i'm a little hard to me. I know that i'm passing as a woman. I feel it everyday. But on the other side a woman wants to be a bit pretty and attractive too. I talked a lot about this and its a important part to me and for me life as a woman. But in the last 2 years no one told that i'm pretty or attractive or something else that way. I dont want to ask for feedback from my family and friends because i think if there would be a reason for give some feedback they would do it. Its hard for me and so my feeling about my appearance is not good - no feedback means to me "dont say anything, its better ... and hopefully she wouldnt ask us ...".
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. :-\
Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.
Hugs Galaxy
Maybe i'm a little hard to me. I know that i'm passing as a woman. I feel it everyday. But on the other side a woman wants to be a bit pretty and attractive too. I talked a lot about this and its a important part to me and for me life as a woman. But in the last 2 years no one told that i'm pretty or attractive or something else that way. I dont want to ask for feedback from my family and friends because i think if there would be a reason for give some feedback they would do it. Its hard for me and so my feeling about my appearance is not good - no feedback means to me "dont say anything, its better ... and hopefully she wouldnt ask us ...".
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. :-\
Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.
Hugs Galaxy
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 26, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 26, 2014, 02:47:52 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
Thanks everyone for your comments.
Maybe i'm a little hard to me. I know that i'm passing as a woman. I feel it everyday. But on the other side a woman wants to be a bit pretty and attractive too. I talked a lot about this and its a important part to me and for me life as a woman. But in the last 2 years no one told that i'm pretty or attractive or something else that way. I dont want to ask for feedback from my family and friends because i think if there would be a reason for give some feedback they would do it. Its hard for me and so my feeling about my appearance is not good - no feedback means to me "dont say anything, its better ... and hopefully she wouldnt ask us ...".
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. :-\
Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.
Hugs Galaxy
Galaxy,
You are very pretty honey, I don't know what part of the world you live in but my take on what has happened to you is that you are dealing with a bunch of thoughtless zombies. Everyone here thinks that you are really quite pretty, so go with us on this and pay attention to what we are telling you, I'm not one to blow a lot of smoke up a woman's skirt and pay her lying complements just to make her feel good. So trust me on this sweetheart!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Post by: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 03:39:44 PM
Thanks so much :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 26, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 26, 2014, 03:56:46 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 26, 2014, 02:47:52 PMditto
Galaxy,
You are very pretty honey, I don't know what part of the world you live in but my take on what has happened to you is that you are dealing with a bunch of thoughtless zombies. Everyone here thinks that you are really quite pretty, so go with us on this and pay attention to what we are telling you, I'm not one to blow a lot of smoke up a woman's skirt and pay her lying complements just to make her feel good. So trust me on this sweetheart!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on July 26, 2014, 04:31:05 PM
Post by: katiej on July 26, 2014, 04:31:05 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PM
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. :-\
Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.
There's an old saying..."no news is good news." People tend to criticize what they don't like, but they don't give compliments nearly as often. They complain when something goes wrong at a restaurant, but they're not quick with compliments when the meal is good. Newspapers are full of bad news. 99% of a business' customers are satisfied, but they only ever hear from the few who are unhappy. The point is that if you're not hearing anything from anyone about it...you can safely assume that all is going well.
So with your guys friends...who probably aren't very good at talking about things like this anyways (especially if they knew you before)...no news is good news. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 27, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Post by: Wynternight on July 27, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Are you going to keep growing your hair out and braiding it, River? It looks great now but with more length, your slender build, and facial features, I think you're going to look gorgeous! I'm a sucker for pretty braids or dreads.
Quote from: riversong on July 26, 2014, 04:39:07 PM
Some I took on my phone,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLN2zRDB.jpg&hash=20dda22b92d36f655848f55517cee94a52c6b3a8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzDVB3gt.jpg&hash=26d112c86d39f718c285e3b555d10ec5fadce382)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJYOr2Y8.jpg&hash=a77613fc5d657abc18d04e38c6ec16f42087f844)
And some I took on my webcam...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHaraIzk.jpg&hash=a4269bec8a554a75b20e86c4d140517a820d3b2e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7hZV7Mg.jpg&hash=5a35fc3ab20c1eb907a3a5c760756de64e826706)
(my hair is craaaazy)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgBWeRs4.jpg&hash=0cac89edafa0aebca2919d739cf9d7e1696035de)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpveLPmR.jpg&hash=9300413d9f61aa237c0a41db9472041c158694be)
I feel like I pass less in my last pic, but I figure that must be my imagination since I haven't really done anything different between when I took that one and when I took the others...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 03:09:03 PM
Quote from: galaxy on July 26, 2014, 02:16:41 PMGalaxy hun I hate to say it, but these two male friends of yours are insensitive to say the least -and that's putting it nicely for I want to say much harsher words. As others and I myself have told you, your very pretty and I'm sorry, but anyone who doesn't see that is just insensitive, and needs an Optometrist(eye doctor)!
I wrote a message to 2 of my best (male) friends and told them something about my problems and that i feel very ugly. They didnt answer. They read the message only and said nothing. I mean, thats the best avidence for my assumption: Everybody knows that i'm not pretty and its better to say nothing and let this issue outside when we talk to each other. They wont hurt me. :-\
Maybe i'm able to correct my assumption over the next long period.
Hugs Galaxy
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 03:21:42 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PMEmily my voice is absolutely atrocious and was worse 5 years ago when I had my total male fail, and I had a nose that would spite my face to boot. In my experience I have noticed as long as the rest of the package is all female the voice and some masculine traits will be overlooked. It happens to me every day.
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies :).
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.
(https://i.imgur.com/RyNRnhZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/riFTtks.jpg)
When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!
(https://i.imgur.com/DjA4vXU.jpg)
In complete honesty, in the top two photo's I gender you female. Again it boils down to the complete package and your body's shape and facial features read thin but feminine.
Now in the bottom photo, you look more Andro but I only say this because of those baggy overly long men's shorts your wearing. Put on a more appropriate pair of shorts that show off more of your shape and I'd gender you female all day.
Hope it helps some.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 27, 2014, 03:23:24 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 27, 2014, 03:23:24 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies :).
You read androgynous leaning female to me in most of these pictures. I also barely even notice the brow ridge--I'm only noticing it now that you've pointed it out, but if you hadn't I don't think I would have noticed. The only thing is your build looks a little masculine, but it's not super masculine--it looks closer to that of an athletic girl (lots of guys find that attractive, which may explain the stares).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 27, 2014, 03:28:22 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 27, 2014, 03:28:22 PM
Quote from: Wynternight on July 27, 2014, 03:46:14 AM
Are you going to keep growing your hair out and braiding it, River? It looks great now but with more length, your slender build, and facial features, I think you're going to look gorgeous! I'm a sucker for pretty braids or dreads.
Thank you! I'm still not sure what I'm going to do with my hair at this point. At the moment I'm more leaning towards getting it straightened and wearing it down once it gets long enough, but who knows :) I might also get a bang, because my forehead looks huge due to how far back my hairline is. That might get fixed once I start hormones though, so it may not even be necessary :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 27, 2014, 03:59:24 PM
Post by: immortal gypsy on July 27, 2014, 03:59:24 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies :).
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.
When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!
Emily your first two photos I would say you are female.
With your night jogging outfit if I saw you in Australia I would probably say early 20's male who runs not competitively but every fun run they can. BUT please remember I'm going on what I see in my society and by my countries standards. With a slight change in running attire you could easily be seen as female.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 04:04:21 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 27, 2014, 04:04:21 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:52:44 PMSorry, please forgive me. Because of my malformed nether region I never had to tuck to have a flat crotch, I just do. So sometimes when suggesting apparel I forget most transwomen do have this inconvenience until after surgery. The only other thing I could suggest would be a pair of sweats maybe in a feminine style/colors while jogging?
I am a bit hesitant about female shorts for running, because they are very form-fitting as a rule and I dont tuck (being a daily bike commuter, this would not be pleasant experience). Plus, I would not dare to jog around midnight in shorts showing off my legs :) - so at least for now i could consider being safe on streets :).
If your job permits might I suggest longer hair in a more feminine style. I saw one Avatar photo of you a while back where you had slightly longer hair and you looked very nice. I think I complimented you on it. Just my $02.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: luna nyan on July 27, 2014, 10:10:31 PM
Post by: luna nyan on July 27, 2014, 10:10:31 PM
Hi Emily,
You've come a long way in your presentation
Looking at those photos, either andro or athletic female - there is still that fraction of upper body bulk but it's dropping down nicely.
You're going to have to start being more careful on your night runs.
Stay safe and fit!
Luna
You've come a long way in your presentation
Looking at those photos, either andro or athletic female - there is still that fraction of upper body bulk but it's dropping down nicely.
You're going to have to start being more careful on your night runs.
Stay safe and fit!
Luna
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on July 28, 2014, 12:37:11 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on July 28, 2014, 12:37:11 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:08:16 PM
Heya! I am in desperate need of advice and some critical opinions - but please, indeed, be critical instead of being re-assuring - both do and will help, but sometimes bitter truth is better than sweet lies :).
So, during last couple of days I get gendered female no matter what I wear (being in my typical andro/boy mode), and even after having forced to be in conversations with complete strangers (my voice stays as one of bigger concerns, but somehow apparently it goes along...).
I am not full-time, and this is what I wear daily when I dont expect to interact with people.
(https://i.imgur.com/RyNRnhZ.jpg) (https://i.imgur.com/riFTtks.jpg)
When I know I will have to talk (voice issues again..), I wear something more baggy as top to flatten me down (You probably get the idea...) - but apparently it does not matter anymore. So far, apart of voice, my face is the biggest concern, mostly because of brow - knowing this alone can freeze me and make me turn around instead of going into public areas. Upper bulk has impeding effect too, but I am quite happy about general shape though... Frankly speaking, now it is very much 50/50 when I look in the mirror - but somehow I stil think that I look more like a young boy than girl. And here is why - this is my late night safe jogging outfit - I thought I would be safe to jog around before midnight because I am dressed as dude, but I do notice that random guys tend to follow me with their stares. But I only see very young boy there!
(https://i.imgur.com/DjA4vXU.jpg)
As appearance goes you look female and I'll only gender you as such, but for the clothes I think you deserve better and they scream "I'm a mother and I don't care what I look like", so yeah I would go for lighter colors and different shoes (not herls just something more feminine)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: luna nyan on July 28, 2014, 05:24:49 AM
Post by: luna nyan on July 28, 2014, 05:24:49 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 28, 2014, 05:10:45 AMYou just don't know... It's dangerous business, Frodo, going out your door.
Thank You luna and Emily29 (nice name, by the way and very fitting to that cute young lady in You avi ;)). Luna, I was following the rationale that if I have that bulk and wear very guy-ish stuff, then it should be safe. Maybe not - but hopefully nobody will want to mess with 5'9" athletic female who does not really match the typical victim profile...
Need to loose some more of that bulk, I suppose :).
Personally, I'm hesitant these days, even though I still present fine as male - just from the fact that I know that the strength isn't there anymore. (Failed @ doing a chinup... And I'm still bulky... Yay me...)
In any case, keeping the exercise up and letting the hormones do their thing is about all you can do.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 28, 2014, 09:02:00 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 28, 2014, 09:02:00 AM
Ok, I think my post ended up at the bottom of the page so it didn't really get noticed. Hate to seem like I'm spamming, but I'm thinking of going full time soon and could use some advice :)
Some I took on my phone,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLN2zRDB.jpg&hash=20dda22b92d36f655848f55517cee94a52c6b3a8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzDVB3gt.jpg&hash=26d112c86d39f718c285e3b555d10ec5fadce382)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJYOr2Y8.jpg&hash=a77613fc5d657abc18d04e38c6ec16f42087f844)
And some I took on my webcam...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHaraIzk.jpg&hash=a4269bec8a554a75b20e86c4d140517a820d3b2e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7hZV7Mg.jpg&hash=5a35fc3ab20c1eb907a3a5c760756de64e826706)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgBWeRs4.jpg&hash=0cac89edafa0aebca2919d739cf9d7e1696035de)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpveLPmR.jpg&hash=9300413d9f61aa237c0a41db9472041c158694be)
I feel like I pass less in my last pic, but I figure that must be my imagination since I haven't really done anything different between when I took that one and when I took the others...
Some I took on my phone,
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLN2zRDB.jpg&hash=20dda22b92d36f655848f55517cee94a52c6b3a8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzDVB3gt.jpg&hash=26d112c86d39f718c285e3b555d10ec5fadce382)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJYOr2Y8.jpg&hash=a77613fc5d657abc18d04e38c6ec16f42087f844)
And some I took on my webcam...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHaraIzk.jpg&hash=a4269bec8a554a75b20e86c4d140517a820d3b2e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7hZV7Mg.jpg&hash=5a35fc3ab20c1eb907a3a5c760756de64e826706)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FgBWeRs4.jpg&hash=0cac89edafa0aebca2919d739cf9d7e1696035de)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FpveLPmR.jpg&hash=9300413d9f61aa237c0a41db9472041c158694be)
I feel like I pass less in my last pic, but I figure that must be my imagination since I haven't really done anything different between when I took that one and when I took the others...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Juliett on July 28, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
Post by: Juliett on July 28, 2014, 09:56:40 AM
These are from 6 months ago.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Faj7fOZJ.jpg&hash=182ca2cd7e10003a26fa4dc1f2cb577aee8a8a18)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0lbENA3.jpg&hash=519855b16fc8617e6781e22c5548f38ffb612b7d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FphRljjz.jpg&hash=6485f98450738957981070d55094b2d5807cf265)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Faj7fOZJ.jpg&hash=182ca2cd7e10003a26fa4dc1f2cb577aee8a8a18)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0lbENA3.jpg&hash=519855b16fc8617e6781e22c5548f38ffb612b7d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FphRljjz.jpg&hash=6485f98450738957981070d55094b2d5807cf265)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 28, 2014, 04:40:27 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 28, 2014, 04:40:27 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 28, 2014, 07:55:35 AMWhere do you live Emily that is that dangerous that you have to worry so much? If I lived in an area that bad where I had to worry about being attacked whenever I go out I'd be packing one of my handguns, and trying to move into a better area.
Oh, I know what You mean - I can still pack a punch, if desperately needed, but if I could avoid getting into hand-to-hand with an adult male, I would do so without hesitation. I asked bmf to give an example of "treatment" and I was quite shocked to realise how weak I was in comparison. My agility, overall coordination and reflexes have increased though :)
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 29, 2014, 01:19:43 AM
Post by: Angélique LaCava on July 29, 2014, 01:19:43 AM
took these wit my best friend before we went to a bar. It was her first time ever going to a bar. do I pass in them?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10527257_837673069585240_8044442203553597559_n_zps48477a28.jpg&hash=7fb052b6c9eefa6fa6726023c7d7f3a79dd07a21)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10437330_837673152918565_3828771395559526255_n_zpsd96c8a86.jpg&hash=10ee4f623ee5423763492b7426d6f28d0700f0a0)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10527257_837673069585240_8044442203553597559_n_zps48477a28.jpg&hash=7fb052b6c9eefa6fa6726023c7d7f3a79dd07a21)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10437330_837673152918565_3828771395559526255_n_zpsd96c8a86.jpg&hash=10ee4f623ee5423763492b7426d6f28d0700f0a0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 07:10:14 AM
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 07:10:14 AM
I'm a daily bike commuter and I tuck every day and wear form fitting female attire all day (even light colours).
For me a good comfortable gaff with a pair of Secret tummy shaping panties does the trick perfectly, in fact I have never had anything slip and it's very comfortable, I can't speak for everyone and all our bodies are different but those are my two cents :)
For me a good comfortable gaff with a pair of Secret tummy shaping panties does the trick perfectly, in fact I have never had anything slip and it's very comfortable, I can't speak for everyone and all our bodies are different but those are my two cents :)
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 27, 2014, 03:52:44 PM
Thank You, Allyda and riversong, for honest feedback :). I am kinda leaning towards idea that - at least for the time being - that niche of athletic/masculine woman would be the most comfortable one. It does explain bulk and other features, plus keeps less nice people at distance ;). I am a bit hesitant about female shorts for running, because they are very form-fitting as a rule and I dont tuck (being a daily bike commuter, this would not be pleasant experience). Plus, I would not dare to jog around midnight in shorts showing off my legs :) - so at least for now i could consider being safe on streets :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
So, 4 1/2 months in to HRT and I haven't seen any outward physical changes from it yet. Despite that, I think I've mentally been in a good place. I'm certainly a lot happier just being on HRT.
Anyway, thought I'd try out an everyday look:
Light makeup (except for the eyes), no padding, no wig, just me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kGPdcdD6eQ/U9fajopErzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/MTBpEa8lbGI/w649-h865-no/20140729-21.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vgocqRphjUI/U9faiTBKfUI/AAAAAAAAAkI/jY6trgtqQnc/w649-h865-no/20140729-20.JPG)
Anyway, thought I'd try out an everyday look:
Light makeup (except for the eyes), no padding, no wig, just me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kGPdcdD6eQ/U9fajopErzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/MTBpEa8lbGI/w649-h865-no/20140729-21.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vgocqRphjUI/U9faiTBKfUI/AAAAAAAAAkI/jY6trgtqQnc/w649-h865-no/20140729-20.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
Either you don't notice because it happens slowly or you you had a very fem face before, in any case I don't think anyone will be misgendering you with those features.
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 12:49:44 PM
So, 4 1/2 months in to HRT and I haven't seen any outward physical changes from it yet. Despite that, I think I've mentally been in a good place. I'm certainly a lot happier just being on HRT.
Anyway, thought I'd try out an everyday look:
Light makeup (except for the eyes), no padding, no wig, just me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kGPdcdD6eQ/U9fajopErzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/MTBpEa8lbGI/w649-h865-no/20140729-21.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vgocqRphjUI/U9faiTBKfUI/AAAAAAAAAkI/jY6trgtqQnc/w649-h865-no/20140729-20.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Quote from: antonia on July 29, 2014, 01:25:10 PM
Either you don't notice because it happens slowly or you you had a very fem face before, in any case I don't think anyone will be misgendering you with those features.
Thanks Antonia, probably just my face. I haven't seen much HRT affected changes in it. Just longer hair, less stubble from electrolysis, and plucked eyebrows. For reference, below is a pic of my face a little over a year ago, months before I started HRT:
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-IBNWr5oaeJA/U9fwo4MKnlI/AAAAAAAAAl4/4lqiaoCFUiQ/s862-no/IMG_0398.JPG)
Granted, my femme pictures have optimal lighting and angles, and of course the makeup and wig in that picture from last year went a long way. Here's what I looked like in male mode just a few short hours before that last pic:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-tue1jk3W2HU/U9fu_X1R_6I/AAAAAAAAAlo/X9Rd3pb9Lgg/w600-h800-no/Before2.JPG)
My male mode now is getting kinda androgynous, but still male to me:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8fXNMLdjnec/U9fu_RGxUnI/AAAAAAAAAlo/29fc7Z4R8Jc/w649-h865-no/20140726-2.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:13:01 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:13:01 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on July 29, 2014, 01:19:43 AMAbsolutely! As always Angélique, you are gorgeous. Get thee hence to the 'You look fabulous' thread!
took these wit my best friend before we went to a bar. It was her first time ever going to a bar. do I pass in them?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
@Juliett:
You look pretty happy in this one :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0lbENA3.jpg&hash=519855b16fc8617e6781e22c5548f38ffb612b7d)
What's with the windswept hair? Are we now in the dramatic pictures thread?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FphRljjz.jpg&hash=6485f98450738957981070d55094b2d5807cf265)
J/K You look great, just teasing you a little. With that pose I couldn't resist :D
You look pretty happy in this one :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0lbENA3.jpg&hash=519855b16fc8617e6781e22c5548f38ffb612b7d)
What's with the windswept hair? Are we now in the dramatic pictures thread?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FphRljjz.jpg&hash=6485f98450738957981070d55094b2d5807cf265)
J/K You look great, just teasing you a little. With that pose I couldn't resist :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JLT1 on July 29, 2014, 02:22:32 PM
Post by: JLT1 on July 29, 2014, 02:22:32 PM
Quote from: Angélique LaCava on July 29, 2014, 01:19:43 AM
took these wit my best friend before we went to a bar. It was her first time ever going to a bar. do I pass in them?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10527257_837673069585240_8044442203553597559_n_zps48477a28.jpg&hash=7fb052b6c9eefa6fa6726023c7d7f3a79dd07a21)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi823.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fzz151%2Fusergino%2F10437330_837673152918565_3828771395559526255_n_zpsd96c8a86.jpg&hash=10ee4f623ee5423763492b7426d6f28d0700f0a0)
You pass and you look great doing it!
Hugs,
Jen
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 29, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 29, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
My male mode now is getting kinda androgynous, but still male to me:
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-8fXNMLdjnec/U9fu_RGxUnI/AAAAAAAAAlo/29fc7Z4R8Jc/w649-h865-no/20140726-2.JPG)
Of course the femme photo is fabulous, but this one here says a lot as opposed to the straight guy photo. You are showing some real feminized facial changes under the influence of HRT and that beautiful smile tells it all. It takes some time for HRT to work it's changes, four months is just barely a start. Try to remind yourself to stop creasing your forehead, otherwise you'll be a regular Botox user before your time. My money is on the idea that we will be seeing you in the you look fabulous thread eventually.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 02:33:38 PM
Post by: antonia on July 29, 2014, 02:33:38 PM
I'd definitely say your features have softened, cheeks filled out, etc. Your "Male" mode is still there but I'd say barely, another couple of months and you won't be able to pull that off!
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:05:06 PM
Thanks Antonia, probably just my face. I haven't seen much HRT affected changes in it. Just longer hair, less stubble from electrolysis, and plucked eyebrows. For reference, below is a pic of my face a little over a year ago, months before I started HRT:
Granted, my femme pictures have optimal lighting and angles, and of course the makeup and wig in that picture from last year went a long way. Here's what I looked like in male mode just a few short hours before that last pic:
My male mode now is getting kinda androgynous, but still male to me:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
Quote from: riversong on July 28, 2014, 09:02:00 AM
Ok, I think my post ended up at the bottom of the page so it didn't really get noticed. Hate to seem like I'm spamming, but I'm thinking of going full time soon and could use some advice :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FJYOr2Y8.jpg&hash=a77613fc5d657abc18d04e38c6ec16f42087f844)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FHaraIzk.jpg&hash=a4269bec8a554a75b20e86c4d140517a820d3b2e)
Not sure what type of advice to give. You have very smooth skin with no blemishes that I can see. The bone structure in your cheeks and around your eyes looks pretty feminine, and you have great lips, very luscious. Honestly, the only thing I would suggest is maybe expressing the girl you are more. With some of those pictures you are standing in a way or have gestures or expressions that feel typically male to me.
As for the last one, your expression makes you look almost uncomfortable or doubting of what you are looking at--which would be yourself since it's a selfie. Perhaps that is what is killing your passability in that pic.
Just believe you are the beautiful girl that are, then show it, act how she would naturally act. Your inner beauty will come out that way and will make a huge difference in how you are perceived.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:50:57 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 29, 2014, 02:23:18 PM
Of course the femme photo is fabulous, but this one here says a lot as opposed to the straight guy photo. You are showing some real feminized facial changes under the influence of HRT and that beautiful smile tells it all. It takes some time for HRT to work it's changes, four months is just barely a start. Try to remind yourself to stop creasing your forehead, otherwise you'll be a regular Botox user before your time. My money is on the idea that we will be seeing you in the you look fabulous thread eventually.
Thanks Shan, the number 11 lines aren't going away without a brow lift I'm afraid. I've had them for years and even with my face completely relaxed they are there. Maybe botox will help, but it's only temporary. Best to take care of it when I get FFS.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Juliett on July 29, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
Post by: Juliett on July 29, 2014, 02:52:34 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:18:03 PM
@Juliett:
You look pretty happy in this one :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0lbENA3.jpg&hash=519855b16fc8617e6781e22c5548f38ffb612b7d)
What's with the windswept hair? Are we now in the dramatic pictures thread?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FphRljjz.jpg&hash=6485f98450738957981070d55094b2d5807cf265)
J/K You look great, just teasing you a little. With that pose I couldn't resist :D
I'm a fan of photography ^-^
I have 0 pictures from the first 26 years of my life and a few thousand from the last 3.
I've been on HRT and full time for 3 years. I'm still scared of make up, somehow I feel it will make me fake.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on July 29, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on July 29, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 02:41:33 PM
Not sure what type of advice to give. You have very smooth skin with no blemishes that I can see. The bone structure in your cheeks and around your eyes looks pretty feminine, and you have great lips, very luscious. Honestly, the only thing I would suggest is maybe expressing the girl you are more. With some of those pictures you are standing in a way or have gestures or expressions that feel typically male to me.
As for the last one, your expression makes you look almost uncomfortable or doubting of what you are looking at--which would be yourself since it's a selfie. Perhaps that is what is killing your passability in that pic.
Just believe you are the beautiful girl that are, then show it, act how she would naturally act. Your inner beauty will come out that way and will make a huge difference in how you are perceived.
Thank you so much for the advice! I guess I do need to work on my mannerisms and posture a bit. I just need a bit more confidence in myself as a woman.
I'll be starting hormones next month (which Im sooooo happy about!), so maybe being on hormones will make me feel a little better :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
Post by: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 03:16:42 PM
Quote from: riversong on July 29, 2014, 02:59:49 PMCongrats! And yeah, they make a huge difference in how you feel. I'm sure being on HRT will help out tremendously. ;)
I'll be starting hormones next month (which Im sooooo happy about!), so maybe being on hormones will make me feel a little better :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on July 29, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on July 29, 2014, 04:14:34 PM
Quote from: riversong on July 29, 2014, 02:59:49 PM
Thank you so much for the advice! I guess I do need to work on my mannerisms and posture a bit. I just need a bit more confidence in myself as a woman.
I'll be starting hormones next month (which Im sooooo happy about!), so maybe being on hormones will make me feel a little better :)
You're going to girl-out like crazy with your features river. You have no worries.
Pull down the safety harness and strap yourself in hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on July 29, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Post by: Allyda on July 29, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 12:49:44 PMAlaia you look very sweet kind of like girl next door sweet, if you get what I mean. FYI my facial changes were just beginning at around the 4 and a half month mark -right where you are now. Just give it time girl your face will soften up.
So, 4 1/2 months in to HRT and I haven't seen any outward physical changes from it yet. Despite that, I think I've mentally been in a good place. I'm certainly a lot happier just being on HRT.
Anyway, thought I'd try out an everyday look:
Light makeup (except for the eyes), no padding, no wig, just me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kGPdcdD6eQ/U9fajopErzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/MTBpEa8lbGI/w649-h865-no/20140729-21.JPG)
Angelique your looking fabulous as always. If I only looked half as good as you I'd be more than happy.
Allie
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 29, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 29, 2014, 10:29:26 PM
Quote from: Alaia on July 29, 2014, 12:49:44 PMis it possible you lost count and it's more like 7 months
So, 4 1/2 months in to HRT and I haven't seen any outward physical changes from it yet. Despite that, I think I've mentally been in a good place. I'm certainly a lot happier just being on HRT.
Anyway, thought I'd try out an everyday look:
Light makeup (except for the eyes), no padding, no wig, just me.
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-8kGPdcdD6eQ/U9fajopErzI/AAAAAAAAAkQ/MTBpEa8lbGI/w649-h865-no/20140729-21.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-vgocqRphjUI/U9faiTBKfUI/AAAAAAAAAkI/jY6trgtqQnc/w649-h865-no/20140729-20.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on July 30, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
Post by: Alaia on July 30, 2014, 09:51:00 AM
Quote from: Allyda on July 29, 2014, 09:35:33 PM
Alaia you look very sweet kind of like girl next door sweet, if you get what I mean. FYI my facial changes were just beginning at around the 4 and a half month mark -right where you are now. Just give it time girl your face will soften up.
Thanks Allyda, that's really kind of you to say and nice to hear. TBH though, when I was talking about not seeing physical HRT changes, it wasn't my face that was bothering me. More that I've had zero changes with the girls, no soreness, nothing. A part of me worries that I'm too old to see any changes there considering how often I read about other girls feeling soreness 1-2 months in.
Quote from: stephaniec on July 29, 2014, 10:29:26 PMHah, thanks Stephanie. I may be absent minded at times, but I'll never forget the day I started HRT :)
is it possible you lost count and it's more like 7 months
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on July 30, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
Post by: stephaniec on July 30, 2014, 02:31:36 PM
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on July 30, 2014, 01:15:41 PMwell, I wish I could get my self down to 138 lbs. I think your face is a natural for HRT
Thank you all for your kind compliments
I understand that I have problems: I know that I need to deal with these issues.
However, I still hold hope that I can go through with this stuff, transition and whatnot.
Part of me is sickened by what I am: sickened that I have such a selfish desire, one quite deviant from the norm of society. It has made me wonder if I am simply trying to be counter-culture with my transgender feelings, though that seems a stretch for a Conservative Communist-hating Republican from Texas like myself.
I at times feel like I am throwing my life away by doing something like this, that if I just stay a man I will be better in the long run. Not everyone is sympathetic, but I think that is too much to expect, no matter what group you are. I am not entitled in that sense: of someone wishes to despise me, they are within their right to do so.
I guess I try to stay selfless: why try to have so much when so many in this world have so little?
For now, I am not trying to transition: I am not in an appropriate place to do so.
Instead, I only ask, once more, if I could hope to pass as female.
I am 19 years old, 5'9" tall, weigh just about 138 lbs, wear size small everything and size 10 shoes.
(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-0/10402975_673831366030171_1549339092793116937_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-0/10568975_673831359363505_5230941621059148135_n.jpg)
I should point out that I am trying to dress like a guy in these pictures: I have yet to going out in public as female, and do not frequently crossdress.
I am understanding of any comments one might give, and thank you again,
Mortfied_Penguin
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on July 30, 2014, 02:35:55 PM
Post by: Wynternight on July 30, 2014, 02:35:55 PM
Piss on society and live for yourself. People will always judge you so deal with it and do what you need to do to be at peace with yourself. Just be warned that the vast majority of trans-folks I've met tend to lean pretty far to the left.
To your original post: with some eyebrow shaping, makeup, and work on your hair I think you'll be very passable.
To your original post: with some eyebrow shaping, makeup, and work on your hair I think you'll be very passable.
Quote from: Mortified_Penguin on July 30, 2014, 01:15:41 PM
Thank you all for your kind compliments
I understand that I have problems: I know that I need to deal with these issues.
However, I still hold hope that I can go through with this stuff, transition and whatnot.
Part of me is sickened by what I am: sickened that I have such a selfish desire, one quite deviant from the norm of society. It has made me wonder if I am simply trying to be counter-culture with my transgender feelings, though that seems a stretch for a Conservative Communist-hating Republican from Texas like myself.
I at times feel like I am throwing my life away by doing something like this, that if I just stay a man I will be better in the long run. Not everyone is sympathetic, but I think that is too much to expect, no matter what group you are. I am not entitled in that sense: of someone wishes to despise me, they are within their right to do so.
I guess I try to stay selfless: why try to have so much when so many in this world have so little?
For now, I am not trying to transition: I am not in an appropriate place to do so.
Instead, I only ask, once more, if I could hope to pass as female.
I am 19 years old, 5'9" tall, weigh just about 138 lbs, wear size small everything and size 10 shoes.
(https://fbcdn-photos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/t1.0-0/10402975_673831366030171_1549339092793116937_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-photos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-0/10568975_673831359363505_5230941621059148135_n.jpg)
I should point out that I am trying to dress like a guy in these pictures: I have yet to going out in public as female, and do not frequently crossdress.
I am understanding of any comments one might give, and thank you again,
Mortfied_Penguin
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 05:41:16 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on July 30, 2014, 04:14:20 PM
I cant say about State Department, but as far as I have heard about the CIA, that agency is not really compatible with being trans, plus it is highlg dominated by ex-military types, so You probably got the idea about that environment...
I'd be willing to bet that there are plenty of closeted trans and homo's in that organization, after they are all part of the human race! Although some who are in outward denial can be the most trans and homophobic to deflect any attention from themselves. It would probably be a hostile work environment.
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Haven't posted a pic in a while.. I know I'm still in the beginning of my journey, but here goes anyway
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fq0wg8Ki.jpg&hash=f3eaea45ef9dd5adb8af6019052046dfd19ebe73)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fq0wg8Ki.jpg&hash=f3eaea45ef9dd5adb8af6019052046dfd19ebe73)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on July 30, 2014, 07:54:21 PM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on July 30, 2014, 07:54:21 PM
Quote from: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 06:17:36 PM
Haven't posted a pic in a while.. I know I'm still in the beginning of my journey, but here goes anyway
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fq0wg8Ki.jpg&hash=f3eaea45ef9dd5adb8af6019052046dfd19ebe73)
Stay the course! Move forward and be strong on your journey.
Then....
GET READY!!
That expression is going to turn happier and happier as you continue in become who you are on the inside.
As your hair grows and your beard fades away, you will look in the mirror and won't even recognize the person staring back at you.
Suddenly you will say to yourself....This is who I was all along!
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 08:25:29 PM
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 08:25:29 PM
Thanks Lara! Beard hasn't started fading, lol. May need to actually start hrt for that. I'm still pre everything, save for growing the hair out :P
The transformation you've done yourself is something to behold, and is quite inspirational ^.^
The transformation you've done yourself is something to behold, and is quite inspirational ^.^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
I'm quite eager to see how HRT does me. I'm probably going to get that going next month.
Ignore my neck bulge...ugh.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1e23051517890806769f7f5927f098b0/tumblr_n91uth4zxY1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
Ignore my neck bulge...ugh.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1e23051517890806769f7f5927f098b0/tumblr_n91uth4zxY1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 08:40:15 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
I'm quite eager to see how HRT does me. I'm probably going to get that going next month.
Ignore my neck bulge...ugh.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1e23051517890806769f7f5927f098b0/tumblr_n91uth4zxY1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
You'll do fine, nice face to begin with. Neck bumps are fixable!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Quote from: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 08:40:15 PMWee! I think I absorbed my sister in the womb and stole her chromosomes.
You'll do fine, nice face to begin with. Neck bumps are fixable!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
Post by: Shantel on July 30, 2014, 08:45:16 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:43:45 PM
Wee! I think I absorbed my sister in the womb and stole her chromosomes.
Lol! :D ;D
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Post by: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 09:01:55 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:43:45 PMtry explaining that to the detective :P
Wee! I think I absorbed my sister in the womb and stole her chromosomes.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 09:18:01 PM
Post by: Illuminess on July 30, 2014, 09:18:01 PM
Quote from: Mickie on July 30, 2014, 09:01:55 PMI will! I'm clever enough to be convincing!
try explaining that to the detective :P
Title: Might I pass?
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Hello,
I feel as though I'm rather masculine, brow-ridge & chin, but out of the blue the other day a bunch of my female friends started telling me I would make a pretty girl (which made my day), do any of you think I'll have any chance of passing?
I feel as though I'm rather masculine, brow-ridge & chin, but out of the blue the other day a bunch of my female friends started telling me I would make a pretty girl (which made my day), do any of you think I'll have any chance of passing?
Title: Re: Might I pass?
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 03:30:50 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 03:30:50 AM
Quote from: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Hello,
I feel as though I'm rather masculine, brow-ridge & chin, but out of the blue the other day a bunch of my female friends started telling me I would make a pretty girl (which made my day), do any of you think I'll have any chance of passing?
http://imgur.com/a/SlVr5
You do look handsome, nice features...you probably have a good 'base' but its not for certain it'll change a lot: I had an andro face before I started transitioning and Ive barely noticed changes in my face. Yes the skin is smoother but thats everything :). Some girls/women here looked fairly masculine before and had amazing changes in their face even without FFS (facial surgery)
Have to be a little lucky with Lady Genetics and how hormones react to it ;)
Title: Re: Might I pass?
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:34:58 AM
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:34:58 AM
Quote from: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 03:30:50 AM
You do look handsome, nice features...you probably have a good 'base' but its not for certain it'll change a lot: I had an andro face before I started transitioning and Ive barely noticed changes in my face. Yes the skin is smoother but thats everything :). Some girls/women here looked fairly masculine before and had amazing changes in their face even without FFS (facial surgery)
Have to be a little lucky with Lady Genetics and how hormones react to it ;)
Thank you, I am somewhat unfortunately often complimented for being handsome, which would be awesome if I weren't trans :P
I guess I'll just see how I go :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 03:39:39 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 03:39:39 AM
I know the feeling, just wanted to tell you what I saw if I you were to stay male....handsome men often can make pretty women afterall ;)
To add to it: age, confidence and knowing what (not) to wear will probably have equal influence if you feel you could pass
For example, if I dont work on my confidence/anxiety issues I might as well not bother even if I have so much going for me...if you cant get your former image out of your head it'll be a hard struggle
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:01:57 AM
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:01:57 AM
That's one thing I definitely have going for me, I'm extremely socially confident and I'm recently 18 so I have time on my side.
Most people tell me they thought I was in my 20s before I told them my age though :P
Most people tell me they thought I was in my 20s before I told them my age though :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 04:09:12 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 04:09:12 AM
Well thats two big plusses in the "Should I consider transitioning" book ;)
Have you come out and do you have support?
I will be 30 tomorrow (Not yay :P) but most people think I am 25/26..so I got off a little lucky too in a different way
Edit: Before I insult anyone...age isnt a requirement but it does help ease the process usually: you usually react better to hormones, your life still has to begin so less worries about other commitments, more time for transitioning
Have you come out and do you have support?
I will be 30 tomorrow (Not yay :P) but most people think I am 25/26..so I got off a little lucky too in a different way
Edit: Before I insult anyone...age isnt a requirement but it does help ease the process usually: you usually react better to hormones, your life still has to begin so less worries about other commitments, more time for transitioning
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:17:40 AM
I actually accidentally came out to my parents a month or so ago and am in the process of getting a referral to see a gender therapist. I have 100% decided to transition despite not being sure of whether or not I would pass, and besides a manly chin is nothing a small amount of surgery can't fix.
My biggest fear in transitioning is losing my SO but I'll 'man' up and tell her regardless.
I just can't wait to see where it takes me :)
My biggest fear in transitioning is losing my SO but I'll 'man' up and tell her regardless.
I just can't wait to see where it takes me :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 04:28:52 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 01, 2014, 04:28:52 AM
I\ll be curious aswell, hope your first steps are going in the direction
Always feel free to share your thoughts and experiences here....we know most of the rigors and feelings you go through :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:38:20 AM
Post by: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 04:38:20 AM
Thanks so much :) I'll be sure to make some kind of timeline after a while
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Laurelin on August 01, 2014, 07:13:44 AM
Post by: Laurelin on August 01, 2014, 07:13:44 AM
and these belong to a dear friend in my support group, she really wanted some expert opinion about her looks but unfortunately she cant speak english so I couldnt bring her here :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGGDfRrb.jpg&hash=f7dbbbfd28a4092eb73a99ab09922006d94bf007)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1rLR8YV.jpg&hash=2ead04868b25544b11cd539e0dc08241b40c17cd)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGGDfRrb.jpg&hash=f7dbbbfd28a4092eb73a99ab09922006d94bf007)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1rLR8YV.jpg&hash=2ead04868b25544b11cd539e0dc08241b40c17cd)
Title: Re: Might I pass?
Post by: katiej on August 01, 2014, 08:04:13 AM
Post by: katiej on August 01, 2014, 08:04:13 AM
Laurelin, I think your friend looks really pretty. I don't see male at all.
The brow ridge isn't obvious, and I don't think your chin is identifiably male either. You don't seem to have a very dark beard shadow, so that will be very helpful. Your hairline is good too. So start growing the hair and you'll be in good shape. I've heard people say that hair is 60% of passing, and I think they're right.
When you start presenting female you'll want to thin out and shape your eyebrows (don't do it yourself the first time), and get an identifiably female haircut.
I think HRT could be really good to you. A bit of fat redistribution and you'll have a good face shape.
Quote from: BananKampf on August 01, 2014, 03:24:42 AM
Hello,
I feel as though I'm rather masculine, brow-ridge & chin, but out of the blue the other day a bunch of my female friends started telling me I would make a pretty girl (which made my day), do any of you think I'll have any chance of passing?
http://imgur.com/a/SlVr5
The brow ridge isn't obvious, and I don't think your chin is identifiably male either. You don't seem to have a very dark beard shadow, so that will be very helpful. Your hairline is good too. So start growing the hair and you'll be in good shape. I've heard people say that hair is 60% of passing, and I think they're right.
When you start presenting female you'll want to thin out and shape your eyebrows (don't do it yourself the first time), and get an identifiably female haircut.
I think HRT could be really good to you. A bit of fat redistribution and you'll have a good face shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 01, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
Post by: stephaniec on August 01, 2014, 08:42:56 AM
Quote from: Laurelin on August 01, 2014, 07:13:44 AMvery nice
and these belong to a dear friend in my support group, she really wanted some expert opinion about her looks but unfortunately she cant speak english so I couldnt bring her here :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FGGDfRrb.jpg&hash=f7dbbbfd28a4092eb73a99ab09922006d94bf007)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1rLR8YV.jpg&hash=2ead04868b25544b11cd539e0dc08241b40c17cd)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: CrissyMarie on August 01, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
Post by: CrissyMarie on August 01, 2014, 08:56:34 AM
So I had posted a couple pictures on here before at 4 months HRT, and now I'll post my 5 month mark. So let me know if I'm passing because I've gotten so much braver and started going out as myself, regardless of what people think. Using women's restroom and everything.
Me at 4 months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2s6jw9x.jpg&hash=75e586ce3185dfb5db4d5acdc9c278959e800bb8)
Me at 5 months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F10hrtsg.jpg&hash=7311c49a4465c4955358ce752f1ac899362ee7fd)
Me at 4 months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2s6jw9x.jpg&hash=75e586ce3185dfb5db4d5acdc9c278959e800bb8)
Me at 5 months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F10hrtsg.jpg&hash=7311c49a4465c4955358ce752f1ac899362ee7fd)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on August 01, 2014, 09:41:36 AM
Post by: Charley Bea(EmeraldP) on August 01, 2014, 09:41:36 AM
Haven't posted in this sort of topic in awhile, I just passed 18 months 6 days ago. How am I doing now? I still don't really see any change myself:
(https://scontent-a-hkg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1044759_1515470582022837_6095652256195471418_n.jpg)
Also those are new glasses picked them up yesterday.
Laurelin: Your friend's pics made my jaw drop does that count? She looks great.
CrissyMarie: You look great to me. :)
(https://scontent-a-hkg.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1044759_1515470582022837_6095652256195471418_n.jpg)
Also those are new glasses picked them up yesterday.
Laurelin: Your friend's pics made my jaw drop does that count? She looks great.
CrissyMarie: You look great to me. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 01, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 01, 2014, 10:03:26 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on July 30, 2014, 08:35:29 PM
I'm quite eager to see how HRT does me. I'm probably going to get that going next month.
Ignore my neck bulge...ugh.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1e23051517890806769f7f5927f098b0/tumblr_n91uth4zxY1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
Oh I wish I had a long neck like yours, I need to lose weight lol, good luck for when you start I can see great potentials!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 01, 2014, 11:13:32 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 01, 2014, 11:13:32 PM
Quote from: CrissyMarie on August 01, 2014, 08:56:34 AMCrissy your looking great as usual. You better start getting that stick ready, lol!
So I had posted a couple pictures on here before at 4 months HRT, and now I'll post my 5 month mark. So let me know if I'm passing because I've gotten so much braver and started going out as myself, regardless of what people think. Using women's restroom and everything.
Me at 4 months.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2s6jw9x.jpg&hash=75e586ce3185dfb5db4d5acdc9c278959e800bb8)
Quote from: Laurelin on August 01, 2014, 07:13:44 AMLaurelin your friend looks very pretty, all feme.
and these belong to a dear friend in my support group, she really wanted some expert opinion about her looks but unfortunately she cant speak english so I couldnt bring her here :(
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F1rLR8YV.jpg&hash=2ead04868b25544b11cd539e0dc08241b40c17cd)
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anastasia E on August 01, 2014, 11:18:55 PM
Post by: Anastasia E on August 01, 2014, 11:18:55 PM
Okay.. I am certainly not an expect on anything but wouldn't want anyone to feel they haven't been seen..
Laurelin: The girl in those pics looks just like any pretty girl to me, nice photos.
CrissyMarie: You looked pretty andro leaning female at 4 months, could probably easily cross to 'pretty female' with the right make up.. now? 'You look fabulous' thread -> that way ;D
Charley Bea: Your features do look very soft; are you wearing any make up? It's hard to tell how you look from such a close-up picture, not sure your hair style is complimentary sorry :/ Not sure what you looked like before to see if there are changes, but you don't really look male either so :P
Emily29: Well.. you look like a boy with a crazy hair-do ;D Make-up and/or a smile would change that I am sure.
Other than that, I just wanted to say that due to my disbelief at people's 'you pass!' statements, I went and posted a picture on www.rankmyphoto.com, I figured if I don't pass people would vote me down and send me hateful pm's..
Uh.. yeah, that didn't happen though.. photo (http://www.rankmyphotos.com/index.php?id=44277) went up and my profile/stats can be seen here (http://www.rankmyphotos.com/profile.php?id=44277&u=anastasiae). The most unexpected thing that happened so far was the 4 guys who tried to hit on me and get my skype lol...
And after some 40 votes, I am apparently a 7 out of 10, and ranked above 82.4% of women on the site. People are crazy ::)
And yet, I am still 100% sure that I look more masculine in real life and that I don't 'actually' pass.. constantly conscious of beard shadow for one. Ungh.. one of these days I need to do a "who cares what they think" and just be me. That's so hard, though.. the mind can be a bitch sometimes...
Laurelin: The girl in those pics looks just like any pretty girl to me, nice photos.
CrissyMarie: You looked pretty andro leaning female at 4 months, could probably easily cross to 'pretty female' with the right make up.. now? 'You look fabulous' thread -> that way ;D
Charley Bea: Your features do look very soft; are you wearing any make up? It's hard to tell how you look from such a close-up picture, not sure your hair style is complimentary sorry :/ Not sure what you looked like before to see if there are changes, but you don't really look male either so :P
Emily29: Well.. you look like a boy with a crazy hair-do ;D Make-up and/or a smile would change that I am sure.
Other than that, I just wanted to say that due to my disbelief at people's 'you pass!' statements, I went and posted a picture on www.rankmyphoto.com, I figured if I don't pass people would vote me down and send me hateful pm's..
Uh.. yeah, that didn't happen though.. photo (http://www.rankmyphotos.com/index.php?id=44277) went up and my profile/stats can be seen here (http://www.rankmyphotos.com/profile.php?id=44277&u=anastasiae). The most unexpected thing that happened so far was the 4 guys who tried to hit on me and get my skype lol...
And after some 40 votes, I am apparently a 7 out of 10, and ranked above 82.4% of women on the site. People are crazy ::)
And yet, I am still 100% sure that I look more masculine in real life and that I don't 'actually' pass.. constantly conscious of beard shadow for one. Ungh.. one of these days I need to do a "who cares what they think" and just be me. That's so hard, though.. the mind can be a bitch sometimes...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 02, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 02, 2014, 02:48:21 AM
People usually keep negative comments about whether you pass to themselves (sometimes even if you ask) unless they feel safe (drunk, in groups) to tell you
I take 'you pass' comments with a grain of salt...especially because YOU have to feel you pass, that makes life so much easier. You can be a supermodel but feel tormented on the inside because you just dont think it'll ever be good enough
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 02, 2014, 04:25:22 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 02, 2014, 04:25:22 AM
Quote from: Anastasia E on August 01, 2014, 11:18:55 PM
Emily29: Well.. you look like a boy with a crazy hair-do ;D Make-up and/or a smile would change that I am sure.
Well I have make up and a smile on my avatar I was not trying to pass.. i'm not on hrt nor out but I just wanted comments on how I styled my wig but thanks anyway :3 and I'm happy for you and don't be so hard on youself if so many guys thought you looked like a girl then they must be right ^_^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 02, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 02, 2014, 12:30:31 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 01, 2014, 10:06:36 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2wdxbgj.jpg&hash=987fdb85ee2ef3a2d67139125d8c43fec7162473)
So yeah I'm not wearing make up and I'm not on HRT but I changed up my hurr
Yeah, I think you are pretty darned cute right now as you are, so certainly you are only going to get prettier and more feminine once you get on HRT if that's what you're planning. You can make yourself look passable enough now as it is!
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on August 02, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
Post by: Mickie on August 02, 2014, 07:14:30 PM
I second the above statement :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on August 03, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
Post by: belfast girl on August 03, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
Hi everyone,
I've posted here a few times before, hoping some of you can give your opinion on where I am right now. I'm 28, and 9 months and 2 days into HRT. Not anywhere close to full time, but living with my (exceptionally supportive and female) best friend, which has been quite helpful, and I seem to be getting more quizzical looks from people, as well as people looking at my chest (although you can't really see it in these photos I'm up to just fitting a B-cup), and slightly odd reactions from people I haven't seen in a while as they realise there's something different about me. And I can barely lift or carry anything now, which is a bit of a hassle.
So anyway, photos - only wearing eyeliner, mascara, and a bit of lip gloss. Obviously need to do something about my facial hair (although it hides well under concealer, but I couldn't be bothered today) and my eyebrows (and, although you can't really see it here, I've got quite a prominent adam's apple, so need to figure out what to do about that/how to afford to get rid of it), but otherwise:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/358x634q90/673/DiETqd.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/539/d1WkDx.jpg)
Any and all opinions are absolutely welcome.
Thank you!
I've posted here a few times before, hoping some of you can give your opinion on where I am right now. I'm 28, and 9 months and 2 days into HRT. Not anywhere close to full time, but living with my (exceptionally supportive and female) best friend, which has been quite helpful, and I seem to be getting more quizzical looks from people, as well as people looking at my chest (although you can't really see it in these photos I'm up to just fitting a B-cup), and slightly odd reactions from people I haven't seen in a while as they realise there's something different about me. And I can barely lift or carry anything now, which is a bit of a hassle.
So anyway, photos - only wearing eyeliner, mascara, and a bit of lip gloss. Obviously need to do something about my facial hair (although it hides well under concealer, but I couldn't be bothered today) and my eyebrows (and, although you can't really see it here, I've got quite a prominent adam's apple, so need to figure out what to do about that/how to afford to get rid of it), but otherwise:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/358x634q90/673/DiETqd.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/539/d1WkDx.jpg)
Any and all opinions are absolutely welcome.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 03, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 03, 2014, 01:24:22 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on August 03, 2014, 12:13:09 PM
Hi everyone,
I've posted here a few times before, hoping some of you can give your opinion on where I am right now. I'm 28, and 9 months and 2 days into HRT. Not anywhere close to full time, but living with my (exceptionally supportive and female) best friend, which has been quite helpful, and I seem to be getting more quizzical looks from people, as well as people looking at my chest (although you can't really see it in these photos I'm up to just fitting a B-cup), and slightly odd reactions from people I haven't seen in a while as they realise there's something different about me. And I can barely lift or carry anything now, which is a bit of a hassle.
So anyway, photos - only wearing eyeliner, mascara, and a bit of lip gloss. Obviously need to do something about my facial hair (although it hides well under concealer, but I couldn't be bothered today) and my eyebrows (and, although you can't really see it here, I've got quite a prominent adam's apple, so need to figure out what to do about that/how to afford to get rid of it), but otherwise:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/358x634q90/673/DiETqd.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/539/d1WkDx.jpg)
Any and all opinions are absolutely welcome.
Thank you!
Uh - I'm assuming you're in Belfast right now, but other than that you have a darling cute little face and you're going to be one fine looker Miss!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 03, 2014, 04:03:35 PM
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 03, 2014, 04:03:35 PM
Belfast girl, have You thought of getting your trachea shaven down on NHS? you look lovely in your pics, I love that dress! x
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 03, 2014, 05:32:09 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 03, 2014, 05:32:09 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on August 02, 2014, 02:48:21 AMOne day soon when I actually 'feel fabulous,' I plan to post a couple of hopefully(if I ever figure out how to use my camera's timer) some full length photos on the "You Look Fabulous Darling" thread. But there's a reason I don't post here; I pass every day and have been passing for over 5 years now. I leave my house without worrying whether I'll pass pass or not. In my early days of going full time sure, I was a bit scared just like anyone would be. But now I'm more concerned with things like do I have enough gas for my trip, or have I forgot something, is my makeup or hair okay, Did I feed the cats, etc. Everyday things a woman thinks about. So I very much agree with the above statement: "YOU have to feel you pass." It makes all the difference and very much makes life much easier. It doesn't matter where your at with hrt: pre, 3 months, 6 months, 10 months, you know when you pass. You'll feel it inside as you confidently walk down the street or through a store.
People usually keep negative comments about whether you pass to themselves (sometimes even if you ask) unless they feel safe (drunk, in groups) to tell you
I take 'you pass' comments with a grain of salt...especially because YOU have to feel you pass, that makes life so much easier. You can be a supermodel but feel tormented on the inside because you just dont think it'll ever be good enough
This IS a great thread though for us to help each other out with suggestions and comments to improve ourselves in both attitudes and looks. Just don't take everything said here to heart. Just my $.02.
Allie :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Quote from: crowcrow223 on August 03, 2014, 04:03:35 PM
Belfast girl, have You thought of getting your trachea shaven down on NHS? you look lovely in your pics, I love that dress! x
Thanks! H&M.
Because of an 18 month waiting list even just for a first appointment at the GIC in Belfast (the only one in Northern Ireland) I'm not going through the NHS, unfortunately, so that's not an option for me. Sucks a bit.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 04, 2014, 09:41:01 AM
Post by: stephaniec on August 04, 2014, 09:41:01 AM
Quote from: belfast girl on August 03, 2014, 12:13:09 PMyour going to be a pretty Irish lass
Hi everyone,
I've posted here a few times before, hoping some of you can give your opinion on where I am right now. I'm 28, and 9 months and 2 days into HRT. Not anywhere close to full time, but living with my (exceptionally supportive and female) best friend, which has been quite helpful, and I seem to be getting more quizzical looks from people, as well as people looking at my chest (although you can't really see it in these photos I'm up to just fitting a B-cup), and slightly odd reactions from people I haven't seen in a while as they realise there's something different about me. And I can barely lift or carry anything now, which is a bit of a hassle.
So anyway, photos - only wearing eyeliner, mascara, and a bit of lip gloss. Obviously need to do something about my facial hair (although it hides well under concealer, but I couldn't be bothered today) and my eyebrows (and, although you can't really see it here, I've got quite a prominent adam's apple, so need to figure out what to do about that/how to afford to get rid of it), but otherwise:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/358x634q90/673/DiETqd.jpg)
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/539/d1WkDx.jpg)
Any and all opinions are absolutely welcome.
Thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 04, 2014, 12:00:37 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 04, 2014, 12:00:37 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on August 03, 2014, 12:13:09 PMYour very pretty and I love that dress -It looks great on you. My only suggestions are maybe a feathered hairstyle with bangs to frame your face better and some eyebrow shaping would do wonders for you.
Hi everyone,
I've posted here a few times before, hoping some of you can give your opinion on where I am right now. I'm 28, and 9 months and 2 days into HRT. Not anywhere close to full time, but living with my (exceptionally supportive and female) best friend, which has been quite helpful, and I seem to be getting more quizzical looks from people, as well as people looking at my chest (although you can't really see it in these photos I'm up to just fitting a B-cup), and slightly odd reactions from people I haven't seen in a while as they realise there's something different about me. And I can barely lift or carry anything now, which is a bit of a hassle.
So anyway, photos - only wearing eyeliner, mascara, and a bit of lip gloss. Obviously need to do something about my facial hair (although it hides well under concealer, but I couldn't be bothered today) and my eyebrows (and, although you can't really see it here, I've got quite a prominent adam's apple, so need to figure out what to do about that/how to afford to get rid of it), but otherwise:
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/539/d1WkDx.jpg)
Any and all opinions are absolutely welcome.
Thank you!
Hope it helps.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 02:53:09 PM
Thanks!
Yeah, eyebrows and a proper haircut are high up on the list for when I finally go full time, as well as ear piercings.
Yeah, eyebrows and a proper haircut are high up on the list for when I finally go full time, as well as ear piercings.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 04, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 04, 2014, 04:15:20 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 03:50:46 AM
Thanks! H&M.
Because of an 18 month waiting list even just for a first appointment at the GIC in Belfast (the only one in Northern Ireland) I'm not going through the NHS, unfortunately, so that's not an option for me. Sucks a bit.
Hmm, hasn't it changed recently? I think I read something recently about NHS being put under an obligation to provide you with appointment a lot, lot quicker, hmm, xx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 04:50:30 PM
Post by: belfast girl on August 04, 2014, 04:50:30 PM
Quote from: crowcrow223 on August 04, 2014, 04:15:20 PMIn England I think yeah, but the NHS is run separately in NI, and we have such forward thinkers as the DUP (some senior members of which are young earth creationists and like protest pride parades and stuff) in charge of the country.
Hmm, hasn't it changed recently? I think I read something recently about NHS being put under an obligation to provide you with appointment a lot, lot quicker, hmm, xx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on August 04, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Post by: Jasriella on August 04, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Went clothes shopping after work and OMG I finally got the right sizes and it feels amazing. So how do I rate without makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps09bf42ef.jpg&hash=f9904bc711274655df454d37f7aba640460451b0) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps09bf42ef.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps09bf42ef.jpg&hash=f9904bc711274655df454d37f7aba640460451b0) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps09bf42ef.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 05, 2014, 12:41:14 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 05, 2014, 12:41:14 AM
Quote from: Jasriella on August 04, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Went clothes shopping after work and OMG I finally got the right sizes and it feels amazing. So how do I rate without makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps09bf42ef.jpg&hash=f9904bc711274655df454d37f7aba640460451b0) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps09bf42ef.jpg.html)
Is that a wig?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on August 05, 2014, 05:49:47 AM
Post by: Jasriella on August 05, 2014, 05:49:47 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 05, 2014, 12:41:14 AMYes it is.
Is that a wig?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
Post by: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
Hi everyone :) I'm Emily. Very new here but decided to put a few pictures up, I'm thinking of going fulltime in september and I'm a bit unsure about myself. I've got no makeup on in any of these except for a teeny bit of eyeshadow :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0OdfsVm.jpg&hash=234788f1b7fdcbd3a29699cc9189639315330f78)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft91tFPT.jpg&hash=a7e71bfc0d1c37c7760e62e246592b38af68d20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRlz3bz.jpg&hash=17493a1c556a3d3c6ff0cfe4bacfc649c2686e97)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0OdfsVm.jpg&hash=234788f1b7fdcbd3a29699cc9189639315330f78)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft91tFPT.jpg&hash=a7e71bfc0d1c37c7760e62e246592b38af68d20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRlz3bz.jpg&hash=17493a1c556a3d3c6ff0cfe4bacfc649c2686e97)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 05, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Post by: antonia on August 05, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
I think you pass beyond any doubt, in fact you could probably pass in a T-Shirt and jeans without any makeup :laugh:
Quote from: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PM
Hi everyone :) I'm Emily. Very new here but decided to put a few pictures up, I'm thinking of going fulltime in september and I'm a bit unsure about myself. I've got no makeup on in any of these except for a teeny bit of eyeshadow :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Eris on August 05, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Post by: Eris on August 05, 2014, 07:39:41 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 05, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
I think you pass beyond any doubt, in fact you could probably pass in a T-Shirt and jeans without any makeup :laugh:
Seconded.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 05, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 05, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
Quote from: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PMSeptember?? Girl you are ready now. OMG!! Gorgeous. ^-^
Hi everyone :) I'm Emily. Very new here but decided to put a few pictures up, I'm thinking of going fulltime in september and I'm a bit unsure about myself. I've got no makeup on in any of these except for a teeny bit of eyeshadow :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0OdfsVm.jpg&hash=234788f1b7fdcbd3a29699cc9189639315330f78)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft91tFPT.jpg&hash=a7e71bfc0d1c37c7760e62e246592b38af68d20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRlz3bz.jpg&hash=17493a1c556a3d3c6ff0cfe4bacfc649c2686e97)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 05, 2014, 08:13:56 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 05, 2014, 08:13:56 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 05, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
September?? Girl you are ready now. OMG!! Gorgeous. ^-^
Ooh I have to second that!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on August 05, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on August 05, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
@wow emzi reaaally cute!
btw I took a selfie
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fqrdca0yvx%2F10527384_10202857632261534_2614689000372493647_n.jpg&hash=dcb1b0f6815f2b8781b9747a389717c878a5efc5) (http://postimg.org/image/qrdca0yvx/)
btw I took a selfie
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fqrdca0yvx%2F10527384_10202857632261534_2614689000372493647_n.jpg&hash=dcb1b0f6815f2b8781b9747a389717c878a5efc5) (http://postimg.org/image/qrdca0yvx/)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 05, 2014, 08:24:38 PM
Post by: katiej on August 05, 2014, 08:24:38 PM
Emzi, I agree with everyone else. You look fantastic already. I'd recommend getting your eyebrows shaped just a bit, but otherwise you've got a really fresh look. Have you started HRT yet?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 05, 2014, 08:56:53 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 05, 2014, 08:56:53 PM
Quote from: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PM3rd
Hi everyone :) I'm Emily. Very new here but decided to put a few pictures up, I'm thinking of going fulltime in september and I'm a bit unsure about myself. I've got no makeup on in any of these except for a teeny bit of eyeshadow :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0OdfsVm.jpg&hash=234788f1b7fdcbd3a29699cc9189639315330f78)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft91tFPT.jpg&hash=a7e71bfc0d1c37c7760e62e246592b38af68d20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRlz3bz.jpg&hash=17493a1c556a3d3c6ff0cfe4bacfc649c2686e97)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on August 05, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
Post by: Hikari on August 05, 2014, 10:27:14 PM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 05, 2014, 07:45:10 PM
September?? Girl you are ready now. OMG!! Gorgeous. ^-^
My thoughts exactly she totally passes I am a bit jealous lol.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on August 05, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Post by: Evelyn K on August 05, 2014, 11:50:24 PM
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on August 05, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
@wow emzi reaaally cute!
btw I took a selfie
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fqrdca0yvx%2F10527384_10202857632261534_2614689000372493647_n.jpg&hash=dcb1b0f6815f2b8781b9747a389717c878a5efc5) (http://postimg.org/image/qrdca0yvx/)
Oh yes you did! Selfieeee's FTW!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on August 06, 2014, 06:21:15 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on August 06, 2014, 06:21:15 AM
Emily: you're very pretty.
FalseHybridPrincess: I dig that. You look gorgeous as per usual.
FalseHybridPrincess: I dig that. You look gorgeous as per usual.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 06, 2014, 11:25:50 AM
Post by: Allyda on August 06, 2014, 11:25:50 AM
Quote from: emzi on August 05, 2014, 07:13:43 PMEmily it's nice to meet you. Your looking great. My only suggestion is getting your eyebrows shaped more in an arch over your eyes, and thinned up just a teensy bit. I love those dresses your wearing. How far along with hrt are you if I may ask?
Hi everyone :) I'm Emily. Very new here but decided to put a few pictures up, I'm thinking of going fulltime in september and I'm a bit unsure about myself. I've got no makeup on in any of these except for a teeny bit of eyeshadow :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Ft91tFPT.jpg&hash=a7e71bfc0d1c37c7760e62e246592b38af68d20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FsRlz3bz.jpg&hash=17493a1c556a3d3c6ff0cfe4bacfc649c2686e97)
Quote from: FalseHybridPrincess on August 05, 2014, 08:17:48 PM
@wow emzi reaaally cute!
btw I took a selfie
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fqrdca0yvx%2F10527384_10202857632261534_2614689000372493647_n.jpg&hash=dcb1b0f6815f2b8781b9747a389717c878a5efc5) (http://postimg.org/image/qrdca0yvx/)
FHP your looking fabulous as usual.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 06, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 06, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
here I am just 1 day on estrogen and 3 weeks on spiro Yeah I don't look feminine now, but at least tell me what my strong features and and what my weak ones are.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-07%2F2014-07-29%252022.59.04_zps7nsw32lt.jpg&hash=c559bfe9708d9d79fa5b13e71e27f03284eef52f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-07%2F2014-07-29%252022.59.04_zps7nsw32lt.jpg&hash=c559bfe9708d9d79fa5b13e71e27f03284eef52f)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on August 06, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
here I am just 1 day on estrogen and 3 weeks on spiro Yeah I don't look feminine now, but at least tell me what my strong features and and what my weak ones are.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1250.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh527%2FStrickalator%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-07%2F2014-07-29%252022.59.04_zps7nsw32lt.jpg&hash=c559bfe9708d9d79fa5b13e71e27f03284eef52f)
Woot! Congrats on starting E!
Strong features:
- Your skin, seriously. You are at 42 and don't have bad wrinkles yet really. I'm dealing with crows feet and number 11 lines and I'm only 38.
- Brow ridge does not look pronounced. This is a huge plus.
- Great hairline and not thinning in back that I can tell. Another huge plus.
What's gonna suck:
- Hair removal for that beard. Judging by the shadow it looks pretty thick and probably has a lot of blonde in it. Electrolysis just plain sucks. It hurts like hell and is hella expensive.
Hopefully HRT plays out well for you. I think the results are kinda iffy and may be very slow at our age.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 06, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 06, 2014, 05:39:28 PM
People have different tolerances for pain - for me my first session of electro didn't hurt all that much. I may think differently in different areas but if what I felt Monday was typical it's more of a discomfort vs. "pain."
Quote from: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Woot! Congrats on starting E!
Strong features:
- Your skin, seriously. You are at 42 and don't have bad wrinkles yet really. I'm dealing with crows feet and number 11 lines and I'm only 38.
- Brow ridge does not look pronounced. This is a huge plus.
- Great hairline and not thinning in back that I can tell. Another huge plus.
What's gonna suck:
- Hair removal for that beard. Judging by the shadow it looks pretty thick and probably has a lot of blonde in it. Electrolysis just plain sucks. It hurts like hell and is hella expensive.
Hopefully HRT plays out well for you. I think the results are kinda iffy and may be very slow at our age.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
Quote from: Wynternight on August 06, 2014, 05:39:28 PMHave you had your upper lip cleared yet? That is the difficult area for me, along with right along the jawbone. But the lip, oh god, that just plain sucks and it puts me in tears every time. I use 5% lidocaine now which helps some, but still... it's torture.
People have different tolerances for pain - for me my first session of electro didn't hurt all that much. I may think differently in different areas but if what I felt Monday was typical it's more of a discomfort vs. "pain."
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: QuestioningEverything on August 06, 2014, 07:10:36 PM
Post by: QuestioningEverything on August 06, 2014, 07:10:36 PM
What do you think? I'm pre hrt but already 3 laser sessions down. Attempting to do makeup but pretty sure im failing at it as I have no idea what Im doing... also freaking out about my hairline as Its thinning out and getting the M shape! :embarrassed:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe9%2FQuestioning%2FIMG_20140806_191421_zpsf8fbb1f7.jpg&hash=c986e0a3d8216bb884688b7abadb8c82866b22d5) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Questioning/media/IMG_20140806_191421_zpsf8fbb1f7.jpg.html)
And here is another one with a cheap $7 wig that looks like crap but I kind of like it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe9%2FQuestioning%2FIMG_20140806_191240_zps080cf3f9.jpg&hash=a4c50b84cdacc3b266400c8608e770ad25309747) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Questioning/media/IMG_20140806_191240_zps080cf3f9.jpg.html)
Any tips for makeup like how do i find my true tone as im pretty sure its not quite the right shade or probably more important how do you hide your beard better? hopefully in a few more laser sessions it wont be a problem and once i start hrt that should help too.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe9%2FQuestioning%2FIMG_20140806_191421_zpsf8fbb1f7.jpg&hash=c986e0a3d8216bb884688b7abadb8c82866b22d5) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Questioning/media/IMG_20140806_191421_zpsf8fbb1f7.jpg.html)
And here is another one with a cheap $7 wig that looks like crap but I kind of like it.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe9%2FQuestioning%2FIMG_20140806_191240_zps080cf3f9.jpg&hash=a4c50b84cdacc3b266400c8608e770ad25309747) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Questioning/media/IMG_20140806_191240_zps080cf3f9.jpg.html)
Any tips for makeup like how do i find my true tone as im pretty sure its not quite the right shade or probably more important how do you hide your beard better? hopefully in a few more laser sessions it wont be a problem and once i start hrt that should help too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 06, 2014, 07:25:05 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 06, 2014, 07:25:05 PM
Quote from: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:58:38 PM
Have you had your upper lip cleared yet? That is the difficult area for me, along with right along the jawbone. But the lip, oh god, that just plain sucks and it puts me in tears every time. I use 5% lidocaine now which helps some, but still... it's torture.
Not yet but that is the area I think is going to be rough for me. I will be buying the numbing cream for those areas.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:44:26 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:44:26 PM
Quote from: Jasriella on August 04, 2014, 10:24:49 PM
Went clothes shopping after work and OMG I finally got the right sizes and it feels amazing. So how do I rate without makeup?
Without makeup? You look better than I do with makeup!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:48:41 PM
Quote from: Shawn Sunshine on August 06, 2014, 03:03:47 PM
here I am just 1 day on estrogen and 3 weeks on spiro Yeah I don't look feminine now, but at least tell me what my strong features and and what my weak ones are.
Shawn, don't sell yourself short. You look like you've got a full head of hair (huge plus!) and nice rounded features, especially the cheeks - with long hair, makeup and clothing, I think you'll be far further along that you give yourself credit for.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 06, 2014, 07:55:38 PM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on August 06, 2014, 07:10:36 PM
What do you think? I'm pre hrt but already 3 laser sessions down. Attempting to do makeup but pretty sure im failing at it as I have no idea what Im doing... also freaking out about my hairline as Its thinning out and getting the M shape! :embarrassed:
. . .
And here is another one with a cheap $7 wig that looks like crap but I kind of like it.
. . .
Any tips for makeup like how do i find my true tone as im pretty sure its not quite the right shade or probably more important how do you hide your beard better? hopefully in a few more laser sessions it wont be a problem and once i start hrt that should help too.
For a $7 wig, you're getting $7,000 worth of value. The difference between the two pictures is like night and day, the latter being far more feminine (and passable) than you might think. You're working with a great, slender body, a face that doesn't have any hugely masculine standout features, and your makeup is subtle.
Hair...
Jump on that yesterday. Seriously, if it's starting to recede, get yourself to your family doctor and start taking finisteride (if you're ok with the potential side effects, most of which aren't a problem for guys who want to be girls), buy yourself some 5% topical minoxidil from your local pharmacy, and at the very least try to stop any further loss. You may also want to start HRT asap, even if just a low dose or T-blockers only, as that'll also help halt the hair loss.
Love the nail polish, btw!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: judithlynn on August 07, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
Post by: judithlynn on August 07, 2014, 12:09:32 AM
Hi Emzi - Emily. I think your look really gorgeous now!. I agree with others girls here that you need to go to a good beautician/beauty therapist and get your eyebrows shaped in a nice feminie curve (that is thinner on the outer edge of the eyebrow. Also you should get your eyelashes tinted (I get mine done blue black colour once a month as it really helps to bring out the definition.
I love the pictures - your dresses look really good on you. I would love though to see you in both dresses without the black woollen tights - do you have some nice sheer stockings or tights to show off your legs. Also a little bit of pink lipstick , outline your very pretty pout would look great on you. Are your ears pierced yet. If not get them done when you go full time. It will reinforce your femineity.
Hugs'
Judith
I love the pictures - your dresses look really good on you. I would love though to see you in both dresses without the black woollen tights - do you have some nice sheer stockings or tights to show off your legs. Also a little bit of pink lipstick , outline your very pretty pout would look great on you. Are your ears pierced yet. If not get them done when you go full time. It will reinforce your femineity.
Hugs'
Judith
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 12:56:00 AM
Thanks for all your replies. I will post another pic late September,
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 01:00:48 AM
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 01:00:48 AM
Quote from: Alaia on August 06, 2014, 05:14:53 PM
Woot! Congrats on starting E!
Strong features:
- Your skin, seriously. You are at 42 and don't have bad wrinkles yet really. I'm dealing with crows feet and number 11 lines and I'm only 38.
- Brow ridge does not look pronounced. This is a huge plus.
- Great hairline and not thinning in back that I can tell. Another huge plus.
What's gonna suck:
- Hair removal for that beard. Judging by the shadow it looks pretty thick and probably has a lot of blonde in it. Electrolysis just plain sucks. It hurts like hell and is hella expensive.
Hopefully HRT plays out well for you. I think the results are kinda iffy and may be very slow at our age.
Yeah I have lots of dark hairs on my chin especially but it is starting to grow slows.now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Post by: Shawn Sunshine on August 07, 2014, 01:02:07 AM
Just a few blonde hairs on.my face. Mostly dark brown there. M
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on August 07, 2014, 06:30:41 AM
Post by: Handy on August 07, 2014, 06:30:41 AM
Greetings! I haven't posted in this thread for a bit, nor on the website at large, but work has kept me busy! I'm nearing my first year anniversary on FULL dose 'E' (had to work my way up from nearly zilch) and frankly I'm getting a lot more confident (at least, compared to the pictures I posted before!) If you have a perfect memory, and somehow recall my original photos, I was VERY gaunt (scary thin face); well, E has TANKED my metabolism (like, 20 lb. heavier), and I'm suddenly looking a LOT healthier! (I don't know though, maybe it's just the sudden sense of contentment coming from within! :p )
I still plan on getting ffs done, primarily for trach shave, rhinoplasty, and chin contouring (got skype call with Dr. Spiegal coming up, and saved a LOT of money working at my new job!) So i'm starting to feel pretty darn optimistic! I also realize I need to get my eyebrows done; just gotta work up the nerve! Muffinpants seems quite convinced with eyebrows I'd be passing, but as we all know it's hard to accept the advice when you know they love you (suspecting they're just trying to boost your self esteem).
if you get a chance, check out my album (link below); I took a few pics yesterday after work of my face at different angles, and am extremely curious to see if you all agree with me on the verdict of 'improvement'.
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0 (http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0)
I still plan on getting ffs done, primarily for trach shave, rhinoplasty, and chin contouring (got skype call with Dr. Spiegal coming up, and saved a LOT of money working at my new job!) So i'm starting to feel pretty darn optimistic! I also realize I need to get my eyebrows done; just gotta work up the nerve! Muffinpants seems quite convinced with eyebrows I'd be passing, but as we all know it's hard to accept the advice when you know they love you (suspecting they're just trying to boost your self esteem).
if you get a chance, check out my album (link below); I took a few pics yesterday after work of my face at different angles, and am extremely curious to see if you all agree with me on the verdict of 'improvement'.
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0 (http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 07, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
Post by: Allyda on August 07, 2014, 11:24:17 AM
Quote from: Handy on August 07, 2014, 06:30:41 AMOh yes your facial features really have softened up a lot compared to your older photos. I too think with your eyebrows done you'll pass easily. But many of us need FFS for our own peace of mind so I won't talk you out of it. If you feel you need FFS to make you feel better and look your best, I'm all for it and wish you my very best for great results.
Greetings! I haven't posted in this thread for a bit, nor on the website at large, but work has kept me busy! If you get a chance, check out my album (link below); I took a few pics yesterday after work of my face at different angles, and am extremely curious to see if you all agree with me on the verdict of 'improvement'.
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0 (http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0)
Even though I don't necessarily need it I plan on FFS at some point in my future prolly as my last surgery. SRS will be my first as it's the most important to me, VFS will be my second after I've healed from SRS and have made my move back west as it will be easier to find a surgeon out there vs. here. Then after I've saved enough money for it(SRS and VFS/Trachea Shave are covered by my insurance) I'll have my FFS including a face lift, rhinoplasty, what little brow ridge I have removed(If there's enough to be) and especially neck lift so even though I pass daily without thinking about it I want to look my best as my younger years were taken from me. And if I can recapture a little of my youth through FFS it needs to be done.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 07, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Post by: Alaia on August 07, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Handy on August 07, 2014, 06:30:41 AM
Greetings! I haven't posted in this thread for a bit, nor on the website at large, but work has kept me busy! I'm nearing my first year anniversary on FULL dose 'E' (had to work my way up from nearly zilch) and frankly I'm getting a lot more confident (at least, compared to the pictures I posted before!) If you have a perfect memory, and somehow recall my original photos, I was VERY gaunt (scary thin face); well, E has TANKED my metabolism (like, 20 lb. heavier), and I'm suddenly looking a LOT healthier! (I don't know though, maybe it's just the sudden sense of contentment coming from within! :p )
I still plan on getting ffs done, primarily for trach shave, rhinoplasty, and chin contouring (got skype call with Dr. Spiegal coming up, and saved a LOT of money working at my new job!) So i'm starting to feel pretty darn optimistic! I also realize I need to get my eyebrows done; just gotta work up the nerve! Muffinpants seems quite convinced with eyebrows I'd be passing, but as we all know it's hard to accept the advice when you know they love you (suspecting they're just trying to boost your self esteem).
if you get a chance, check out my album (link below); I took a few pics yesterday after work of my face at different angles, and am extremely curious to see if you all agree with me on the verdict of 'improvement'.
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0 (http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#0)
I think your face is pretty femme now. You are certainly in male fail territory, especially should you get around to plucking those brows :P ;)
That said, as you are considering FFS, I think you have already picked out the only areas that I would look at improving. The trach shave is obvious. I can see wanting a rhinoplasty as there is a bit of a convex curve to the bridge. As for the chin, I can kinda see how you might want it done, but I'm on the fence as to whether it's really necessary. I think you'd be fine without it, but improving it may help a lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 07, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Post by: katiej on August 07, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Handy, I'll second what Alaia said. Minimal FFS would help, but don't go crazy.
Feminine eyebrows and hair style will help a ton. High cheekbones, full lips, hair for days...yeah, You're in pretty good shape.
Feminine eyebrows and hair style will help a ton. High cheekbones, full lips, hair for days...yeah, You're in pretty good shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Post by: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Okey, time for a reality check, no synthetic hair or other accessories, just me coming home from work.
About 6 weeks on blockers and 2 on E.
(I've starting writing this about 3 times, looked at the picture and discarded the post, this time I'm going to push the button)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H0mWYw9Shl8/U-QN0TLb2xI/AAAAAAAAAjo/bqEHKKt1yH8/w728-h861-no/IMG_0794.JPG)
About 6 weeks on blockers and 2 on E.
(I've starting writing this about 3 times, looked at the picture and discarded the post, this time I'm going to push the button)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H0mWYw9Shl8/U-QN0TLb2xI/AAAAAAAAAjo/bqEHKKt1yH8/w728-h861-no/IMG_0794.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Okey, time for a reality check, no synthetic hair or other accessories, just me coming home from work.
About 6 weeks on blockers and 2 on E.
(I've starting writing this about 3 times, looked at the picture and discarded the post, this time I'm going to push the button)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H0mWYw9Shl8/U-QN0TLb2xI/AAAAAAAAAjo/bqEHKKt1yH8/w728-h861-no/IMG_0794.JPG)
I think you look good. I'm honestly not sure if I would read you as male or female. I feel like you could go either way based on what kind of outfit you're wearing, the rest of your body, and/or how you carry yourself. Are you also not wearing makeup? Because it totally looks like you are :o
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:40:05 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:40:05 PM
This is basically my normal look right now. No makeup, no accessories, nothing special. I guess it's a bit androgynous, but meh, I have no idea how I'm coming off.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNLEi8lA.jpg&hash=0036c2a30cc88424f3e74b813f01c0e20fc07392)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FUPdZ1fE.jpg&hash=5a14d734e7b072f18b79295e8527e7246c7ed058)
These will be the last pre-HRT pics I'll be posting here. The next time I post here, I'll be on hormones :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNLEi8lA.jpg&hash=0036c2a30cc88424f3e74b813f01c0e20fc07392)
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These will be the last pre-HRT pics I'll be posting here. The next time I post here, I'll be on hormones :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:46:46 PM
Post by: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:46:46 PM
I'm wearing makeup as I tend to do most days now for work, some eyeliner and mascara :)
I might try to do a full body shot at some point, might take a bit more courage ...
I might try to do a full body shot at some point, might take a bit more courage ...
Quote from: riversong on August 07, 2014, 09:34:07 PM
I think you look good. I'm honestly not sure if I would read you as male or female. I feel like you could go either way based on what kind of outfit you're wearing, the rest of your body, and/or how you carry yourself. Are you also not wearing makeup? Because it totally looks like you are :o
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:53:58 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on August 07, 2014, 09:53:58 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:46:46 PM
I'm wearing makeup as I tend to do most days now for work, some eyeliner and mascara :)
I might try to do a full body shot at some point, might take a bit more courage ...
Don't worry about it, you look like you're off to a really good start for just 6 weeks :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 07, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 07, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:21:02 PMyou'll be alright just let the E do its job
Okey, time for a reality check, no synthetic hair or other accessories, just me coming home from work.
About 6 weeks on blockers and 2 on E.
(I've starting writing this about 3 times, looked at the picture and discarded the post, this time I'm going to push the button)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H0mWYw9Shl8/U-QN0TLb2xI/AAAAAAAAAjo/bqEHKKt1yH8/w728-h861-no/IMG_0794.JPG)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: DelKay on August 07, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
Post by: DelKay on August 07, 2014, 10:28:35 PM
avatar for refrence :'3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: judithlynn on August 08, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
Post by: judithlynn on August 08, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
Hi Antonia;
You look really greast. Here are some suggestions:
1. Go to a Beauty Therapist/Beautician and get them to tint your eyelashes. I suggest Blue Black. That will increase the definition and dramatically improve your look
2. Also get your eyebrows tinted. I suggest a medium brown - Ask them not to overdo it, but again it will help with the definition. Also get them to make them into more of a feminine curve. Personally I suggest getting the beautician to do it (they will wax it from beneath (never from above) also making sure their are no hairs in between the two eyes
3. Use a Lip pencil and outline your pout and put soft pink lipstick on, but use a brush to put on the lipstick as your infill, then add lipstick gloss.
4. You could o with a little bronzer/tint either side of your nose sand beneath your jaw line to accentuate your features
5. I love the earrings, but you might want to wear some small hoops or more dangling earings. This will add to your overall feminine look.
By the way you don't need as wig!
You look really greast. Here are some suggestions:
1. Go to a Beauty Therapist/Beautician and get them to tint your eyelashes. I suggest Blue Black. That will increase the definition and dramatically improve your look
2. Also get your eyebrows tinted. I suggest a medium brown - Ask them not to overdo it, but again it will help with the definition. Also get them to make them into more of a feminine curve. Personally I suggest getting the beautician to do it (they will wax it from beneath (never from above) also making sure their are no hairs in between the two eyes
3. Use a Lip pencil and outline your pout and put soft pink lipstick on, but use a brush to put on the lipstick as your infill, then add lipstick gloss.
4. You could o with a little bronzer/tint either side of your nose sand beneath your jaw line to accentuate your features
5. I love the earrings, but you might want to wear some small hoops or more dangling earings. This will add to your overall feminine look.
By the way you don't need as wig!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 08, 2014, 04:01:26 AM
Post by: katiej on August 08, 2014, 04:01:26 AM
Antonia, you have great checkbooks, no beard shadow, and a hairline that makes me jealous. Stephanie is right, give it some time. HRT will probably do quite a bit for you and your hair will grow out. Then get a good feminine hairstyle and passing shouldn't be an issue
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on August 08, 2014, 07:21:58 AM
Post by: Leila on August 08, 2014, 07:21:58 AM
Quote from: Valleyrie on August 08, 2014, 07:01:51 AM
Okay... so here goes nothing!
-snip-
I can definitely see potential. :) You have age on your side for a good transition.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 08, 2014, 07:31:51 AM
Post by: antonia on August 08, 2014, 07:31:51 AM
Thanks for the feedback!
I think it's just the light but my eylashes are actually quite dark (almost black), so are my eyebrows, I wonder if the Google images autotune thing messed it up.
I've been meaning to go get my brows done by a professional, then hopefully I'll be able to maintain them by plucking, not that I don't pluck them now but the shape could be better.
Thanks for the comments on the hair, I've been meaning to throw the wig away as a symbolic guesture, I still wear if it I go out for a night on the town, at some point I'll need to get an interim haircut and get rid of the rug.
I'm hoping a couple more months on HRT, more laser and a hairstyle will do the trick, and hopefully the boob fairy will pay me a visit :)
I think it's just the light but my eylashes are actually quite dark (almost black), so are my eyebrows, I wonder if the Google images autotune thing messed it up.
I've been meaning to go get my brows done by a professional, then hopefully I'll be able to maintain them by plucking, not that I don't pluck them now but the shape could be better.
Thanks for the comments on the hair, I've been meaning to throw the wig away as a symbolic guesture, I still wear if it I go out for a night on the town, at some point I'll need to get an interim haircut and get rid of the rug.
I'm hoping a couple more months on HRT, more laser and a hairstyle will do the trick, and hopefully the boob fairy will pay me a visit :)
Quote from: judithlynn on August 08, 2014, 12:09:00 AM
Hi Antonia;
You look really greast. Here are some suggestions:
1. Go to a Beauty Therapist/Beautician and get them to tint your eyelashes. I suggest Blue Black. That will increase the definition and dramatically improve your look
2. Also get your eyebrows tinted. I suggest a medium brown - Ask them not to overdo it, but again it will help with the definition. Also get them to make them into more of a feminine curve. Personally I suggest getting the beautician to do it (they will wax it from beneath (never from above) also making sure their are no hairs in between the two eyes
3. Use a Lip pencil and outline your pout and put soft pink lipstick on, but use a brush to put on the lipstick as your infill, then add lipstick gloss.
4. You could o with a little bronzer/tint either side of your nose sand beneath your jaw line to accentuate your features
5. I love the earrings, but you might want to wear some small hoops or more dangling earings. This will add to your overall feminine look.
By the way you don't need as wig!
Quote from: katiej on August 08, 2014, 04:01:26 AM
Antonia, you have great checkbooks, no beard shadow, and a hairline that makes me jealous. Stephanie is right, give it some time. HRT will probably do quite a bit for you and your hair will grow out. Then get a good feminine hairstyle and passing shouldn't be an issue
Quote from: stephaniec on August 07, 2014, 10:22:36 PM
you'll be alright just let the E do its job
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on August 08, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on August 08, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Ehhh...I guess pre-HRT girls like me get lower priority here :( which I guess is understandable, since there's not much we can do except wait for hormones to do their work. Still, I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass for the time being, since I really want to go full time soon, but am still a little unsure about how passable I am.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on August 08, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
Post by: Leila on August 08, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
Quote from: riversong on August 08, 2014, 10:04:34 AM
Ehhh...I guess pre-HRT girls like me get lower priority here :( which I guess is understandable, since there's not much we can do except wait for hormones to do their work. Still, I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass for the time being, since I really want to go full time soon, but am still a little unsure about how passable I am.
While you wait for your hormones there are many things you could do.This isn't an exhaustive list but certainly things that if worked on would help with passing :
- If your voice needs work you could practise feminising it; it's not likely to change via HRT so you may as well get the practise in.
- You could work on the style of clothes you are going to be wearing; don't necessarily have to buy anything yet, but you could get an idea of the types of clothes you like - start a scrap book of ideas for future reference either an actual book or something like pinterest.
- Another thing you could do is practise deportment, study how cis-women carry themselves and mimic their behaviour patterns.
- If you have short hair start to grow it out, so that it can be styled in a fem way when longer.
- You might also want to look at options for facial hair removal, it is unlikely to just all fall out.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on August 08, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on August 08, 2014, 10:53:54 AM
Quote from: Leila on August 08, 2014, 10:21:53 AM
While you wait for your hormones there are many things you could do.This isn't an exhaustive list but certainly things that if worked on would help with passing :
- If your voice needs work you could practise feminising it; it's not likely to change via HRT so you may as well get the practise in.
- You could work on the style of clothes you are going to be wearing; don't necessarily have to buy anything yet, but you could get an idea of the types of clothes you like - start a scrap book of ideas for future reference either an actual book or something like pinterest.
- Another thing you could do is practise deportment, study how cis-women carry themselves and mimic their behaviour patterns.
- If you have short hair start to grow it out, so that it can be styled in a fem way when longer.
- You might also want to look at options for facial hair removal, it is unlikely to just all fall out.
Well, I do most of that. My voice is getting there (though it still needs work), my clothes are fairly androgynous at this point, my hair is at a decent passable length, and I shave pretty much daily. I'm just not sure if I pass having done all that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 08, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 08, 2014, 04:00:32 PM
Quote from: riversong on August 08, 2014, 10:53:54 AMIn all honesty River your close to passing. When I see photo's of you that are full length you remind me of one of my cis girlfriends who's African American. Just keep doing what your doing. The scrapbook Leila mentioned is a good idea for future outfits and shoes (I'll never have enough shoes, you prolly won't either, lol!). Also you could practice working with makeup. Check out some you tube video's on makeup tutorials. You'll get there it just takes time. I know all too well how hard waiting to start hrt is. This last time I waited for over 4 years. Keep your chin up and remain positive. The rest will come in time.
Well, I do most of that. My voice is getting there (though it still needs work), my clothes are fairly androgynous at this point, my hair is at a decent passable length, and I shave pretty much daily. I'm just not sure if I pass having done all that.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
Post by: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 08, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 08, 2014, 08:39:14 PM
Quote from: Leila on August 08, 2014, 10:21:53 AMI second this....or third it.. whatever. :P Especially the voice training. I've always had a tendency to sing along with female vocalists, especially sopranos. Unfortunately, due to years of smoking, my register isn't what it used to be. Luckily, though, I never had a super deep voice. If you do it's still very possible to change that. Either way, it's all about practice. What I've been doing is slowly speaking higher and higher around my peers so they barely notice. If you want some quality pro training I suggest checking out http://genderlife.com/voicetutor
While you wait for your hormones there are many things you could do.This isn't an exhaustive list but certainly things that if worked on would help with passing :
- If your voice needs work you could practise feminising it; it's not likely to change via HRT so you may as well get the practise in.
- You could work on the style of clothes you are going to be wearing; don't necessarily have to buy anything yet, but you could get an idea of the types of clothes you like - start a scrap book of ideas for future reference either an actual book or something like pinterest.
- Another thing you could do is practise deportment, study how cis-women carry themselves and mimic their behaviour patterns.
- If you have short hair start to grow it out, so that it can be styled in a fem way when longer.
- You might also want to look at options for facial hair removal, it is unlikely to just all fall out.
The interval approach I'm doing with my voice I also do with my clothing as I slowly move further away from my old wardrobe and into the one that best fits my personality. I'm very much a "tomboy", though, so really I'm just switching from men's versions of things to women's. But there's some very dressy stuff I like, too. Check out the fashion by Ovate. Dark, flowing and mysterious. There's nothing like bringing a sense of mystique into a room and attracting some interesting comments and conversations.
As someone who has been around women all of my life — family and friends — I think I've already incorporated into my gait a feminine vibe. My mother always said I was very feminine and thought I'd turn out to be gay. Well, I'm quite attracted to women, so... turns out she was right! Just not the way she expected. :P She's already given me a pair of her jeans. Now it's time to go shopping!
Since I was 25 I just shaved my head, but now I'm growing it out. I have an atrocious receding hairline, though, so I'm hoping some long hair will hide that. Plus, when the HRT starts (ugh, still not there yet) I really hope it grows some of it back. Electrolysis on my face and neck will begin a few months after I've been on the 'mones. All in good time. As much as we want to rush it we have to just be patient and go with the flow.
Another tip is to start playing with makeup. It's very important (in my opinion) to put emphasis on either the eyes or the lips, but not both at the same time. I always get compliments on my eyes, so that's what I'll accentuate more. Once I've gotten a pretty nice outfit I'll post a pic here, cos I constantly worry that I'll look awful. I know that passing isn't the end-all of transition, but it's certainly close.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Juliett on August 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
Post by: Juliett on August 08, 2014, 10:50:54 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Based on that picture of your beautiful face, I would rate you 95-100% female looking. You really are pretty.
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on August 09, 2014, 12:14:44 AM
Post by: Mickie on August 09, 2014, 12:14:44 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
A-freaking-dorable....
I see 100% woman. Go you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 12:17:37 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 12:17:37 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PMGood gosh Ashlee. If this is you WITHOUT makeup you better not ever put any on or Hollywood will be calling as well as all single people. Jeesh, total pass!! :)
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 09, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
Post by: Shantel on August 09, 2014, 11:46:55 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Miss. cute face you could pass looks wise as is!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Just Ole Me on August 09, 2014, 01:45:42 PM
Post by: Just Ole Me on August 09, 2014, 01:45:42 PM
Ok so this is me:
http://s1371.photobucket.com
I've been on HRT for 3 months at a low dosage. Endo just doubled my E a few weeks ago as my E level was at 50pgml so I'm hoping it kicks into gear.
I'm early 40s
I'm 5'11" big hands and size 11 male shoe sized feet. :(
260lbs but now on HRT I'm not depressed so I can lose weight. I will get back just under 200lbs by spring
Right now the only surgery on my near horizon is rhinoplasty as I hate my big nose
My hairline is receded but coming back nicely on HRT
Wife and I are still together and she is now fulling accepting.
So my question is.....is there any hope for me to look female eventually without major FFS? I fear not but I know we can truly see ourselves.
Be brutal it's ok. I have a loving wife and family so I'm blessed in other ways so I won't jump off a cliff. :)
Hugs
Kay
http://s1371.photobucket.com
I've been on HRT for 3 months at a low dosage. Endo just doubled my E a few weeks ago as my E level was at 50pgml so I'm hoping it kicks into gear.
I'm early 40s
I'm 5'11" big hands and size 11 male shoe sized feet. :(
260lbs but now on HRT I'm not depressed so I can lose weight. I will get back just under 200lbs by spring
Right now the only surgery on my near horizon is rhinoplasty as I hate my big nose
My hairline is receded but coming back nicely on HRT
Wife and I are still together and she is now fulling accepting.
So my question is.....is there any hope for me to look female eventually without major FFS? I fear not but I know we can truly see ourselves.
Be brutal it's ok. I have a loving wife and family so I'm blessed in other ways so I won't jump off a cliff. :)
Hugs
Kay
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 02:00:53 PM
Hard to tell without a side view, but so far you will do fine! Rhinoplasty yes would be my suggestion, but from this angle the brow ridge looks good. I am so glad you have support as it is so critical to success. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 09, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Post by: crowcrow223 on August 09, 2014, 02:40:46 PM
Just Ole Me, I think you're quite harsh on yourself, but you've got quite soft features actually. Let hormones do their work, in the meantime you can lose weight as you mentioned if you want to, train your voice, get some decent clothes, learn about make-up and be productive in other ways
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EllieM on August 09, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Post by: EllieM on August 09, 2014, 02:42:34 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 07, 2014, 09:21:02 PM
Okey, time for a reality check, no synthetic hair or other accessories, just me coming home from work.
About 6 weeks on blockers and 2 on E.
(I've starting writing this about 3 times, looked at the picture and discarded the post, this time I'm going to push the button)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-H0mWYw9Shl8/U-QN0TLb2xI/AAAAAAAAAjo/bqEHKKt1yH8/w728-h861-no/IMG_0794.JPG)
I'm happy you pushed the button, Antonia, sexy girl that you are!
Ellie-come-lately here...
if I wasn't already married... ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EllieM on August 09, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
Post by: EllieM on August 09, 2014, 02:44:18 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
gosh, what am I going to do???
all these cute girls here! really!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 02:45:55 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 02:45:55 PM
Quote from: EllieM on August 09, 2014, 02:44:18 PMI know right? I am conflicted between hugging them and banning them! *giggle* Oh to be young again. ::)
gosh, what am I going to do???
all these cute girls here! really!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 09, 2014, 03:10:45 PM
Post by: antonia on August 09, 2014, 03:10:45 PM
Hope your not counting me as young, I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be Ashlee's mom :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 09, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 09, 2014, 03:43:08 PM
Antonia, thanks for having the courage to post here.
You are doing great girl, especially for such as short time on HRT.
I think you hair is starting to look fabulous.
When MY hair is just a little longer, I intend to post here.
I don't know if I have the courage to post here without makeup. Some of you girls here look amazing WITHOUT makeup, I am astounded.
I will probably have my cis girlfriend or other friend or person take my photos right at the beauty salon after having my longer hair done, my nails polished professionally, my makeup done by the beauty salon pros.
With my hair, I don't want to use any wigs or extensions...I want it to be all natural, and these hormones are amazingly powerful...
I am SO happy that my hair is so much better and prettier...I am 56 years old remember, so that getting hair growing out nicely like this, with a bit of natural curl, and brown color mostly, is quite amazing for me.
Female hormones are SO wonderful, for their physical effects, and for the mental effects -- OMG I never imagined I could feel mildly euphoric to vividly euphorically happy about 90% of the time in my life...
Hugs, Johanna.
You are doing great girl, especially for such as short time on HRT.
I think you hair is starting to look fabulous.
When MY hair is just a little longer, I intend to post here.
I don't know if I have the courage to post here without makeup. Some of you girls here look amazing WITHOUT makeup, I am astounded.
I will probably have my cis girlfriend or other friend or person take my photos right at the beauty salon after having my longer hair done, my nails polished professionally, my makeup done by the beauty salon pros.
With my hair, I don't want to use any wigs or extensions...I want it to be all natural, and these hormones are amazingly powerful...
I am SO happy that my hair is so much better and prettier...I am 56 years old remember, so that getting hair growing out nicely like this, with a bit of natural curl, and brown color mostly, is quite amazing for me.
Female hormones are SO wonderful, for their physical effects, and for the mental effects -- OMG I never imagined I could feel mildly euphoric to vividly euphorically happy about 90% of the time in my life...
Hugs, Johanna.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 09, 2014, 03:10:45 PMPlease! You don't look a day over 23 or 24.
Hope your not counting me as young, I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be Ashlee's mom :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 09, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
Post by: antonia on August 09, 2014, 05:06:06 PM
Lol, I'll take that as a complement, they say transitioning takes a decade off or so :)
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 03:46:59 PM
Please! You don't look a day over 23 or 24.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 09, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 09, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 09, 2014, 03:10:45 PMI'm old enough to be your grandmother
Hope your not counting me as young, I'm pretty sure I'm old enough to be Ashlee's mom :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kira Phoenix on August 09, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Post by: Kira Phoenix on August 09, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Ok, my turn. This is me without the wig. I believe this was taken some time in July.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10494581_10152740817304523_3771519600060588182_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10494581_10152740817304523_3771519600060588182_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
Quote from: Kira Phoenix on August 09, 2014, 07:04:49 PMI think you clicked the wrong link. You posted a pic of a cis girl by mistake. :)
Ok, my turn. This is me without the wig. I believe this was taken some time in July.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10494581_10152740817304523_3771519600060588182_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 09, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 09, 2014, 09:45:19 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PMYou have such beautiful skin. That's going to go a loooong way when you start hrt! Right now I'd guess you as very feminine male. You have pretty hair too so there's two things you got very in your favor.
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 09, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 09, 2014, 10:33:19 PM
Here's a larger version of my avatar pic:
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/d5726dd6f3eb3194b4bd090a92c6a578/tumblr_n9k14jUYPo1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
But honestly — as I'm sure it is with anyone — different angles provide different appearances. Plus, the B&W helps to hide some skin issues. Still no HRT, so that's just me as I am.
I do have one perk, though, and that's hips:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg
(https://31.media.tumblr.com/d5726dd6f3eb3194b4bd090a92c6a578/tumblr_n9k14jUYPo1sny86jo1_500.jpg)
But honestly — as I'm sure it is with anyone — different angles provide different appearances. Plus, the B&W helps to hide some skin issues. Still no HRT, so that's just me as I am.
I do have one perk, though, and that's hips:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
Post by: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
Wow, your facial features really remind me a lot of Joe Harwood which is one of my all time favorite makeup artist:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F4KK8ePQlfWI%2Fmqdefault.jpg&hash=52d96c36ed5c7511e402b1ce9535588a4d115493)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jhmemoires
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F4KK8ePQlfWI%2Fmqdefault.jpg&hash=52d96c36ed5c7511e402b1ce9535588a4d115493)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jhmemoires
Quote from: Kira Phoenix on August 09, 2014, 07:04:49 PM
Ok, my turn. This is me without the wig. I believe this was taken some time in July.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10494581_10152740817304523_3771519600060588182_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
Post by: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:11:20 AM
Just goes to show age is very relative :)
Quote from: stephaniec on August 09, 2014, 06:18:59 PM
I'm old enough to be your grandmother
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kira Phoenix on August 10, 2014, 12:14:08 AM
Post by: Kira Phoenix on August 10, 2014, 12:14:08 AM
Quote from: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
Wow, your facial features really remind me a lot of Joe Harwood which is one of my all time favorite makeup artist:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F4KK8ePQlfWI%2Fmqdefault.jpg&hash=52d96c36ed5c7511e402b1ce9535588a4d115493)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jhmemoires
Wow...the similarities are so striking lol...I keep getting told by several people that I look very familiar to them lol.
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 07:07:52 PM
I think you clicked the wrong link. You posted a pic of a cis girl by mistake. :)
Haha no that's me. I am just really insecure about my ability to pass without my wig on. I've been taking finasteride to reverse the effects of male patterned baldness for nearly a year now and I've been thinking about going out without the wig now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EllieM on August 10, 2014, 12:22:36 AM
Post by: EllieM on August 10, 2014, 12:22:36 AM
Quote from: Jessica Merriman on August 09, 2014, 02:45:55 PM
I know right? I am conflicted between hugging them and banning them! *giggle* Oh to be young again. ::)
my vote, hugging. yes hugging. definitely hugging.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on August 10, 2014, 07:53:16 AM
Post by: AshleeLC on August 10, 2014, 07:53:16 AM
Quote from: Allyda on August 09, 2014, 09:45:19 PM:ive been on HRT 7 months xP
You have such beautiful skin. That's going to go a loooong way when you start hrt! Right now I'd guess you as very feminine male. You have pretty hair too so there's two things you got very in your favor.
Ali :icon_flower
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 10, 2014, 02:40:55 PM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 10, 2014, 02:40:55 PM
Quote from: EllieM on August 10, 2014, 12:22:36 AM
my vote, hugging. yes hugging. definitely hugging.
Hugging...yes...what great girls we have here!
As for ME, my turn will come soon. I am almost ready to "come out" at Susan's. Not on FB, but at Susan's, soon.
No wigs or extensions, only natural hair. No push-up bras, only my now-existing small but very female breasts in a tasteful bra and dress.
But, I want my hair style professionally in a beauty salon for my photos here, with make-up applied by the expert girls in the salon.
And they can do my nails for the photos, too. I have beautiful nails, anyway, as I have been blessed with greast nails even before HRT.
I hope what come through the best -- whenever I shortly "come out" at Susan's -- is my utter and complete euphoric happiness with my life right now.
Hugs,
Johanna.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: cynthialee on August 10, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
Post by: cynthialee on August 10, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
So I haven't posted to one of these threads in a couple years.
Here is me in a new top my wonderful spouse Sevan created for me. I chose the fabrics.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2F1475813_10154434886365371_1186946287847922299_n_zpsf5eb3fec.jpg&hash=7471e1e6ac207d25d4531f623cd01a91c0e742ce)
and a back view:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2Fcyndishirtback_zps393cfc8f.jpg&hash=f287316f167bfdee7f257408a7d34d9da5053e0d)
Here is me in a new top my wonderful spouse Sevan created for me. I chose the fabrics.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2F1475813_10154434886365371_1186946287847922299_n_zpsf5eb3fec.jpg&hash=7471e1e6ac207d25d4531f623cd01a91c0e742ce)
and a back view:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2Fcyndishirtback_zps393cfc8f.jpg&hash=f287316f167bfdee7f257408a7d34d9da5053e0d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 11, 2014, 12:37:52 AM
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 11, 2014, 12:37:52 AM
Quote from: cynthialee on August 10, 2014, 09:30:22 PM
So I haven't posted to one of these threads in a couple years.
Here is me in a new top my wonderful spouse Sevan created for me. I chose the fabrics.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2F1475813_10154434886365371_1186946287847922299_n_zpsf5eb3fec.jpg&hash=7471e1e6ac207d25d4531f623cd01a91c0e742ce)
and a back view:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi13.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa300%2Fcandiussell%2Fcyndishirtback_zps393cfc8f.jpg&hash=f287316f167bfdee7f257408a7d34d9da5053e0d)
You are looking great , Cynthia
I love your top also , both fabric and manufacture :)
I am happy that you posted some new pics , I always remember you for supporting and calming me down in my first days here .
xoxo
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: cynthialee on August 11, 2014, 08:23:54 AM
Post by: cynthialee on August 11, 2014, 08:23:54 AM
TY Claudia. Glad to see you still around.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 11, 2014, 06:17:53 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 11, 2014, 06:17:53 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
This is my first time posting in this thread, but I just wanted to say that it does my heart good to see how lovely you ladies all look! I hope I'll be able to come close to you when I do post my first image. :)
This photo is wonderful, Ashlee! You have a great look that is androgynous but leans much more towards a cis female's appearance--which is all the more remarkable because this is a no-makeup picture. Certainly more femme than femme guy. Really inspiring--because I still have to deal with beard shadow, I always feel compelled to wear makeup to cover it, and I figure if I'm wearing foundation to cover it, I might as well wear a bit more to help it all blend in, etc.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 11, 2014, 06:22:16 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 11, 2014, 06:22:16 PM
Quote from: antonia on August 10, 2014, 12:06:19 AM
Wow, your facial features really remind me a lot of Joe Harwood which is one of my all time favorite makeup artist:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.ytimg.com%2Fvi%2F4KK8ePQlfWI%2Fmqdefault.jpg&hash=52d96c36ed5c7511e402b1ce9535588a4d115493)
https://www.youtube.com/user/jhmemoires
You look great without the wig--your face has a soft shape to it, and your eyes look great. And I second what Antonia said about Harwood. I had seen two videos of his a few weeks ago, and your face reminded me of his in a good way, as well.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 12, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 12, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
No picture to show you this time but just something that I thought of
I dont want to make this sound offensive and I honestly dont know if it does but on my ambigious, more boymode days (which are getting less, but sadly I am not fulltime) I get the feeling I pass as an Genderqueer/FtM more than anything else, mostly due to the breast development and clothing style
It's odd
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 12, 2014, 02:09:37 PM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 12, 2014, 02:09:37 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on August 12, 2014, 11:13:52 AM
No picture to show you this time but just something that I thought of
I dont want to make this sound offensive and I honestly dont know if it does but on my ambigious, more boymode days (which are getting less, but sadly I am not fulltime) I get the feeling I pass as an Genderqueer/FtM more than anything else, mostly due to the breast development and clothing style
It's odd
Yes, Vivian, bigger breasts will do that -- for sure!
:)
I am 2 months on HRT now, and still in male mode for work, but the "girls" are getting bigger (still small, but getting bigger).
Hey, you are from the Netherlands, yes? Many years ago I travelled to Den Haag and Amsterdam by plane, and I rode the trains around Nederlands a lot.
I went to Maastricht in the far southeast several times.
I remember one word well in your language
SINASAPPLESAP
(Sorry if my spelling is bad)
I like orange juice, so that is one word I learned.
Your eyes are so great that I think even in boy mode you probably are attracting attention.
:)
Johanna
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 12, 2014, 05:37:23 PM
Post by: yokosoko on August 12, 2014, 05:37:23 PM
Hi eveyone! This is my first post! I've been a doing this privatley for a while, but I'm planning to go out for the first time tomorrow (i'm at a very crowded conference), so I'm hoping I pass! Please be honest, i'd like to know what gives me away and how much it does! I've also included some of the outfits i'm planning to i'd love some feedback on which one you guys like best!
Here is a link!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3stcht8s5odgcqq/AAC7DdufP6thqf5C-i_XMYsBa
Thanks!
Here is a link!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3stcht8s5odgcqq/AAC7DdufP6thqf5C-i_XMYsBa
Thanks!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 12, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 12, 2014, 06:06:52 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 12, 2014, 05:37:23 PM
Hi eveyone! This is my first post! I've been a doing this privatley for a while, but I'm planning to go out for the first time tomorrow (i'm at a very crowded conference), so I'm hoping I pass! Please be honest, i'd like to know what gives me away and how much it does! I've also included some of the outfits i'm planning to i'd love some feedback on which one you guys like best!
Here is a link!
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/3stcht8s5odgcqq/AAC7DdufP6thqf5C-i_XMYsBa
Thanks!
I like the black and white striped dress with the white top. You look good in those tops with the fitted bodice. The leggings and heels are a nice touch too. I like the flowered skirt too, nice legs on you btw. You like me have to work on the guy tummy, but not too bad, keep it sucked in. Dark facial hair shadow Oops! Other than that nice statement!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 12, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Post by: katiej on August 12, 2014, 09:07:09 PM
Cute outfits. As to what gives you away...definitely the beard shadow and thick eyebrows. It also looks like you're not wearing any makeup, so maybe that's a place to start.
One thing that could help...I usually wear a nice pair of feminine glasses even though I have perfect eyesight. It definitely helps in the presentation.
One thing that could help...I usually wear a nice pair of feminine glasses even though I have perfect eyesight. It definitely helps in the presentation.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 12:05:52 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 12:05:52 AM
wow, thanks! Yeah, it was late at night, so i decided to forego the makeup just to take it off, i'll post a fully dolled up picture later, and i'll see if I can do something about the eyebrows.
As for the glasses, I wont be able to get anything graded on such short notice (I'm blind without them), but are mine "unisex" enough?
As for the glasses, I wont be able to get anything graded on such short notice (I'm blind without them), but are mine "unisex" enough?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 13, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
Post by: katiej on August 13, 2014, 01:46:58 AM
You weren't wearing them in the pictures, so I couldn't say if yours would help. Mine are red and femme shaped, so they actually draw the eye away from my bear shadow which still shows even with a ton of makeup :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 01:52:01 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 01:52:01 AM
Actually, I am wearing them! They're just frameless lol, I specifically took close ups to make sure my "face" features would pass lol, I suppose the fact that they're hard to see helps, rather than masculine ones? Speaking of glasses, I will buy a pair when I get home, based on my face, are there any designs/colours you can reccomend? I fortunately get to work from home often, so I like to dress up when I do (hence my choice of attires :) ) so glasses to go with that would be nice :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 13, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
Post by: katiej on August 13, 2014, 02:02:58 AM
LOLZ I didn't even notice them. Woops.
In that case, let's see you with some makeup and then maybe I can take my foot out of my mouth and actually be helpful. :)
And it's hard to say what frame shape or color would look good on you. But there are lots of girly styles out there...go try on a bunch and see what works for your face.
In that case, let's see you with some makeup and then maybe I can take my foot out of my mouth and actually be helpful. :)
And it's hard to say what frame shape or color would look good on you. But there are lots of girly styles out there...go try on a bunch and see what works for your face.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Giving this another try. Here goes nothing
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2nty529.jpg&hash=0bd67025afb1965fd5fec533c9e2cb534d5e75cc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2nty529.jpg&hash=0bd67025afb1965fd5fec533c9e2cb534d5e75cc)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on August 13, 2014, 11:57:06 AM
Post by: Jasriella on August 13, 2014, 11:57:06 AM
Quote from: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 11:32:19 AMYou look just like a gal I dated in high school.
Giving this another try. Here goes nothing
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
Post by: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 12:05:38 PM
A transgirl? Or a cisgirl? lol
That pic is me month 7 on HRT and 1 month into my RLE. I started my transition at the age of 30.
That pic is me month 7 on HRT and 1 month into my RLE. I started my transition at the age of 30.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
Hi, everyone. :) This is my first time posting an image on here, and I confess I'm more than a bit nervous. I'm having trouble with my family regarding my being trans*, though most of my extended family has no idea because they've only seen me in boy mode. I'm hoping my girl mode images are different enough that they wouldn't recognise them immediately (unlikely as it is that they would come across this site), though I may take down photos I post after a while just to be safe. But I wanted to post these to see where I am so far. I am pre-HRT; I tend to go out in girl mode like this when I am away from my family. I'm still learning a lot about how to dress, walk more femme, etc. I've only really begun presenting in girl mode as of a month ago, and only a few close friends know at present. I also hope I've posted these correctly. Could I pass so far?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1154_zps52fdd2c0.jpg&hash=ab419ee386bca4bf1db5451e95befa169f908c27)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1257_zps487e529b.jpg&hash=c10114566839c80e2cec10feab302ced37ca6d14)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1292_zps79f5155e.jpg&hash=8f4c7125e4203d43de30f7386af399805c7f1d68)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1154_zps52fdd2c0.jpg&hash=ab419ee386bca4bf1db5451e95befa169f908c27)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1257_zps487e529b.jpg&hash=c10114566839c80e2cec10feab302ced37ca6d14)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1292_zps79f5155e.jpg&hash=8f4c7125e4203d43de30f7386af399805c7f1d68)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 13, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 13, 2014, 12:42:06 PM
Quote from: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 11:32:19 AM
Giving this another try. Here goes nothing
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2nty529.jpg&hash=0bd67025afb1965fd5fec533c9e2cb534d5e75cc)
You have such beautiful eyes :) And all your features are soft and cute .
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:44:24 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
Hi, everyone. :) This is my first time posting an image on here, and I confess I'm more than a bit nervous. I'm having trouble with my family regarding my being trans*, though most of my extended family has no idea because they've only seen me in boy mode. I'm hoping my girl mode images are different enough that they wouldn't recognise them immediately (unlikely as it is that they would come across this site), though I may take down photos I post after a while just to be safe. But I wanted to post these to see where I am so far. I am pre-HRT; I tend to go out in girl mode like this when I am away from my family. I'm still learning a lot about how to dress, walk more femme, etc. I've only really begun presenting in girl mode as of a month ago, and only a few close friends know at present. I also hope I've posted these correctly. Could I pass so far?
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1154_zps52fdd2c0.jpg [img]
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1257_zps487e529b.jpg [img]
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1292_zps79f5155e.jpg [img]
So far you are doing great Gabrielle, when I pulled up your pics I didn't see any maleness. Your biggest hurdle (and mine) is probably unconscious behaviors and posture. I'm right there with you on that :/
Good luck! *hugs*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 13, 2014, 12:46:16 PM
Post by: ClaudiaLove on August 13, 2014, 12:46:16 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 12:25:58 PM
Hi, everyone. :) This is my first time posting an image on here, and I confess I'm more than a bit nervous. I'm having trouble with my family regarding my being trans*, though most of my extended family has no idea because they've only seen me in boy mode. I'm hoping my girl mode images are different enough that they wouldn't recognise them immediately (unlikely as it is that they would come across this site), though I may take down photos I post after a while just to be safe. But I wanted to post these to see where I am so far. I am pre-HRT; I tend to go out in girl mode like this when I am away from my family. I'm still learning a lot about how to dress, walk more femme, etc. I've only really begun presenting in girl mode as of a month ago, and only a few close friends know at present. I also hope I've posted these correctly. Could I pass so far?
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1154_zps52fdd2c0.jpg [img]
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1257_zps487e529b.jpg [img]
[img] http://i1272.photobucket.com/albums/y385/jrb09k/IMG_1292_zps79f5155e.jpg [img]
Hi there
You are looking great , very feminine , and all this pre-HRT .
Sure you pass :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
I am using a much less err.. aggressive makeup regime today to try it out. Also trying out a headband with the wig to see if I can't get it to look a bit more natural. How do you think I'm doing? Do I need to go back to the old foundation? I really like the new one better.
Also obviously having a bit of trouble with my facial hair, I need electro stat!
Have not started HRT, still need to find a psych and get a referral :( .
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102229_825_zps658650a8.jpg&hash=35afb71237f28d26760a1f8bfa26ddcf5095a224)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102505_364_zps8fb66e9c.jpg&hash=7078eaaf2d600099a172f8f583f437152c8a8544)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102559_802_zps1892748e.jpg&hash=8d7551c5908b854978a3ef363becf558ad46eeb7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102521_624_zpsd97a10dc.jpg&hash=77ec82db8d07f9e311cfa74a37feb146fea365d7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102556_509_zps170f5e31.jpg&hash=b0c22afc206434ca8ba1819bd2f8d94c613f1f5f)
Also, I would kill for some new clothes. Fingers crossed on the new job from my client I'm waiting to hear back on.
Also obviously having a bit of trouble with my facial hair, I need electro stat!
Have not started HRT, still need to find a psych and get a referral :( .
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102229_825_zps658650a8.jpg&hash=35afb71237f28d26760a1f8bfa26ddcf5095a224)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102505_364_zps8fb66e9c.jpg&hash=7078eaaf2d600099a172f8f583f437152c8a8544)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102559_802_zps1892748e.jpg&hash=8d7551c5908b854978a3ef363becf558ad46eeb7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102521_624_zpsd97a10dc.jpg&hash=77ec82db8d07f9e311cfa74a37feb146fea365d7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102556_509_zps170f5e31.jpg&hash=b0c22afc206434ca8ba1819bd2f8d94c613f1f5f)
Also, I would kill for some new clothes. Fingers crossed on the new job from my client I'm waiting to hear back on.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 13, 2014, 12:57:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 13, 2014, 12:57:29 PM
Quote from: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:49:45 PM
I am using a much less err.. aggressive makeup regime today to try it out. Also trying out a headband with the wig to see if I can't get it to look a bit more natural. How do you think I'm doing? Do I need to go back to the old foundation? I really like the new one better.
Also obviously having a bit of trouble with my facial hair, I need electro stat!
Have not started HRT, still need to find a psych and get a referral :( .(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102556_509_zps170f5e31.jpg&hash=b0c22afc206434ca8ba1819bd2f8d94c613f1f5f)
Also, I would kill for some new clothes. Fingers crossed on the new job from my client I'm waiting to hear back on.
When it comes to makeup and foundation, sometimes less is much better. I really like this look and though you're new I can assure you that you have the beginnings of a really terrific looker!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 13, 2014, 01:15:27 PM
Post by: YinYanga on August 13, 2014, 01:15:27 PM
Hey Anna, good to see your smile again :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
Thank you, Annabella and Claudia! You're very kind. Anna, your beautiful photos in this thread were actually among the first I stumbled upon when I began visiting Susan's, prior to making an account, and I was both impressed and inspired--impressions confirmed by so many of the other lovely ladies on here.
Your foundation, from what I can tell in these last photos, looks really good--I'm not seeing anything cakey. And the facial hair is hidden pretty well. Really, really pretty. My only minor observation is that my attention went quickly to under your eyes, which look a bit tired, but this is minor.
Your foundation, from what I can tell in these last photos, looks really good--I'm not seeing anything cakey. And the facial hair is hidden pretty well. Really, really pretty. My only minor observation is that my attention went quickly to under your eyes, which look a bit tired, but this is minor.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on August 13, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
Post by: Jasriella on August 13, 2014, 01:26:44 PM
Quote from: Hermosa_Tabby on August 13, 2014, 12:05:38 PMShe's CIS. That was back when I didn't know what trans was or that was me.
A transgirl? Or a cisgirl? lol
That pic is me month 7 on HRT and 1 month into my RLE. I started my transition at the age of 30.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 01:30:56 PM
Post by: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 01:30:56 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 01:20:26 PM
Thank you, Annabella and Claudia! You're very kind. Anna, your beautiful photos in this thread were actually among the first I stumbled upon when I began visiting Susan's, prior to making an account, and I was both impressed and inspired--impressions confirmed by so many of the other lovely ladies on here.
(*^_^*) - Awwe... shucks.. yer making me blush.. stawp!
That really made my day. Thanks so much Gabrielle.
I'm glad I could inspire you, though I can't imagine how I do.. but then that's the curse right? We don't see what other people see.
Also, I didn't say this before but I wish you so much luck with your family. I was only able to tell two of my brothers and I come from a family of seven children. It can be really hard dealing with the risk of rejection. Take care of yourself first. You aren't obligated to tell anyone you feel will not take it well.
*hugs*
-Anna
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Post by: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Okay! So here is v.2.0 With Makeup! Unfortunately I coulnt change today as I was unable to find somewhere to change xD But I found a bathroom for tomorrow! In the meantime! Here are some pics with makeup! Please let me know if there's an improvement ( I also trimmed my eyebrows a bit).
Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua
Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Newgirl Dani on August 13, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
Post by: Newgirl Dani on August 13, 2014, 05:05:17 PM
Well Yokosoko, I must say, very pretty, classy, perfect selecton of clothing, and to my inexperienced eye the makeup looks good, though I have not achieved much skill with this yet. ::) Dani
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 13, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 13, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Quote from: Annabella on August 13, 2014, 12:49:45 PMWay way way waaaaayy better Anna! I like this look so much better because it looks more natural. I think the other foundation was too light. Girl when you start hrt and have been on it for 6 months or so you'll be drop dead gorgeous! I like the headband too. It helps the wig to look more like your own hair just bleached. JMO but if I were you I'd look into a better wig that comes close to matching your natural hair color. But yea I like this look much much better!
I am using a much less err.. aggressive makeup regime today to try it out. Also trying out a headband with the wig to see if I can't get it to look a bit more natural. How do you think I'm doing? Do I need to go back to the old foundation? I really like the new one better.
Also obviously having a bit of trouble with my facial hair, I need electro stat!
Have not started HRT, still need to find a psych and get a referral :( .
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102229_825_zps658650a8.jpg&hash=35afb71237f28d26760a1f8bfa26ddcf5095a224)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102559_802_zps1892748e.jpg&hash=8d7551c5908b854978a3ef363becf558ad46eeb7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102521_624_zpsd97a10dc.jpg&hash=77ec82db8d07f9e311cfa74a37feb146fea365d7)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1244.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fgg579%2Fannatesra%2FIMG_20140813_102556_509_zps170f5e31.jpg&hash=b0c22afc206434ca8ba1819bd2f8d94c613f1f5f)
Also, I would kill for some new clothes. Fingers crossed on the new job from my client I'm waiting to hear back on.
@Gabrielle_22: You look very femme for no hrt yet. From what I can see I'd gender you female.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on August 13, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
Post by: Hikari on August 13, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
@Annabella: I <3 your eyes, and your makeup is really better this time too. You are looking fantastic, I can't wait to see pics after HRT!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 09:20:07 PM
Thank you, Ali. You're kind. I was one of those people whose gender was always a source of confusion as a child and teen, though my jaw has become more masculine, I think, as I got older. I feel unable to wear my hair back in "girl mode" because I think I look so obviously male from the sides. When my hair is down, I feel my features look softer, but with it back...I dunno. And I have terrible posture, so I think I give myself away all the time because I push my chest out or do something silly. I am my biggest critic.
Hermosa, you look really cute with that haircut! And, as another poster said, your eyes are super pretty. :) Your features are a bit andro but definitely lean more towards female, to me.
Hermosa, you look really cute with that haircut! And, as another poster said, your eyes are super pretty. :) Your features are a bit andro but definitely lean more towards female, to me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 13, 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 13, 2014, 09:54:56 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Okay! So here is v.2.0 With Makeup! Unfortunately I coulnt change today as I was unable to find somewhere to change xD But I found a bathroom for tomorrow! In the meantime! Here are some pics with makeup! Please let me know if there's an improvement ( I also trimmed my eyebrows a bit).
Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua
The makeup definitely makes a big difference. You look amazing!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on August 14, 2014, 12:56:45 AM
Post by: Annabella on August 14, 2014, 12:56:45 AM
Quote from: Allyda on August 13, 2014, 08:55:36 PM
Way way way waaaaayy better Anna! I like this look so much better because it looks more natural. I think the other foundation was too light. Girl when you start hrt and have been on it for 6 months or so you'll be drop dead gorgeous! I like the headband too. It helps the wig to look more like your own hair just bleached. JMO but if I were you I'd look into a better wig that comes close to matching your natural hair color. But yea I like this look much much better!
Ally thanks so much! Yes, I think this new foundation is a world better than the last. A lot more of my skin shows through it, but that makes it look a lot more natural, and less like I have a face made of plastic. I hope you are right. Still anxious to be starting HRT. I have been dying for a new wig! The headband makes this one slightly more tolerable but if I can get through this next side gig I am working I will be buying a wig hands down. The rest of the money I will be saving for meds and such, assuming I can keep myself from spending it all on clothes. Looking back at my pics after a few hours I think I look a lot more at home in my skin as a woman vs the last ones. I feel that way too. Thanks for the notes again Ally. :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Annabella on August 14, 2014, 01:05:32 AM
Post by: Annabella on August 14, 2014, 01:05:32 AM
Quote from: Hikari on August 13, 2014, 09:18:07 PM
@Annabella: I <3 your eyes, and your makeup is really better this time too. You are looking fantastic, I can't wait to see pics after HRT!
*blushes*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Ftallspeaking.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2013%2F06%2Fface-blush-svg.jpg&hash=761d935aaa23b9322e034328a0d7ce592c08400f)
Awe..
Thanks Hikari...
Where was I? yes.. makeup much better this time, I agree.
Maybe at some point I'll hook up the studio camera and get something in a decent photo instead of just bad camera phone selfies. After a few months of HRT I definitely will. If I end up looking half as fem as you I'll be very happy with my results.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 14, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
Post by: Windy on August 14, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
Well ok so its taken like for ages to summon the courage to put my photo up for your collective approval or otherwise.
Any comments good or bad accepted. PS bad hair day, chin red from electrolysis and no makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme.jpg&hash=671ba018d941799e52d41b4f0cfc3e9328a230f2)
Any comments good or bad accepted. PS bad hair day, chin red from electrolysis and no makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme.jpg&hash=671ba018d941799e52d41b4f0cfc3e9328a230f2)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 14, 2014, 01:27:14 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on August 14, 2014, 01:27:14 AM
Summon the courage? Really? You show a huge sense of confidence to me and look just fine! This picture passes in my humble opinion. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 14, 2014, 01:32:42 AM
Post by: Windy on August 14, 2014, 01:32:42 AM
Awww thanks Jessica. Huge hugs :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 02:02:10 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 02:02:10 AM
@anna, so I couldn't see your profile, I'm guessing, it's because I'm still new, but yeah, what Hikari said, looking forward to more pics! From your profile pic you're already practically there!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Okay! So here is v.2.0 With Makeup! Unfortunately I coulnt change today as I was unable to find somewhere to change xD But I found a bathroom for tomorrow! In the meantime! Here are some pics with makeup! Please let me know if there's an improvement ( I also trimmed my eyebrows a bit).
Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua
I forgot to ask! Which outfit did you girls like that worked with both the heels and flats? Jeans? Or skirt? Blazer? No Blazer?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 14, 2014, 09:49:13 AM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 14, 2014, 09:49:13 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
I forgot to ask! Which outfit did you girls like that worked with both the heels and flats? Jeans? Or skirt? Blazer? No Blazer?
Hi Yokosoko,
I think you look really femme in both the jeans/flats and skirt/flats combo. I think the skirt/flats/blazer combo looks great on you, and I prefer it with the blazer rather than without, but you seem able to pull off all the looks in these pictures. I also like the ring you have on.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:02:04 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 13, 2014, 09:20:07 PMDon't worry Anna, we are all our own worse critics. Some good news on your posture. I have spinal stenosis plus much skeletal damage from an accident I suffered in 1991. I had awful stooped over posture before hrt. But lo and behold, my hrt has caused pelvic tilt and my lower back to arch inward effectively straightening my posture. I now again after many years walk with my head held high with relatively straight posture compared to what it used to be. So there may be some hope for yours too. An added benefit; walking with a straight posture augments my booby's too. :eusa_dance:
Thank you, Ali. You're kind. I was one of those people whose gender was always a source of confusion as a child and teen, though my jaw has become more masculine, I think, as I got older. I feel unable to wear my hair back in "girl mode" because I think I look so obviously male from the sides. When my hair is down, I feel my features look softer, but with it back...I dunno. And I have terrible posture, so I think I give myself away all the time because I push my chest out or do something silly. I am my biggest critic.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 05:27:13 AMYes, These are definitely better and I like the skirt better. It makes you look more feminine. You have great hair!, or is that a wig? In either case you look better in the skirt IMHO.
I forgot to ask! Which outfit did you girls like that worked with both the heels and flats? Jeans? Or skirt? Blazer? No Blazer?
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:48:21 PM
Post by: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:48:21 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 13, 2014, 03:11:51 PM
Okay! So here is v.2.0 With Makeup! Unfortunately I coulnt change today as I was unable to find somewhere to change xD But I found a bathroom for tomorrow! In the meantime! Here are some pics with makeup! Please let me know if there's an improvement ( I also trimmed my eyebrows a bit).
Thanks! I personally still see a bit of the shadow....but I'm hoping i'm being scrutinous, and if so, should I be using a lighter or darker foundation to help hide it?
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/u733mi3k1q9ceuw/AAAn7v7hLsA1SOzJK3SVCuOua
Night and day difference! When you first posted the pictures I was a little worried for you. But not anymore. In fact, I'd love to hear how you're doing your beard cover.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
Post by: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:50:42 PM
Quote from: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:28:04 PM
Yes, These are definitely better and I like the skirt better. It makes you look more feminine. You have great hair!, or is that a wig? In either case you look better in the skirt IMHO.
Ali :icon_flower:
Agreed. A-line skirts give the impression of curves that we don't naturally have. With the jeans maybe you could wear a loose-fitting cardigan to hide the lack of curves.
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on August 14, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
Post by: Mickie on August 14, 2014, 07:46:56 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on August 08, 2014, 08:00:33 PM
I tried a no makeup pic. Im guessing im more on the femme guy area.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FAIImwMn.jpg&hash=3e82e3c2a46f86b33b4084a9d57b746d3d15ac54)
Also wanted to say, I love your hair
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 14, 2014, 08:05:27 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 14, 2014, 08:05:27 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 14, 2014, 05:27:13 AM
I forgot to ask! Which outfit did you girls like that worked with both the heels and flats? Jeans? Or skirt? Blazer? No Blazer?
I want that skirt!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 03:14:44 AM
Post by: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 03:14:44 AM
Quote from: Windy on August 14, 2014, 01:24:44 AM
Well ok so its taken like for ages to summon the courage to put my photo up for your collective approval or otherwise.
Any comments good or bad accepted. PS bad hair day, chin red from electrolysis and no makeup.
If that's a bad day, on a good day I'm sure you look pretty darn amazing. Cute, cheery face; love the hair.
Do you mind if I ask how long you've been on HRT?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 04:29:01 AM
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 04:29:01 AM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 03:14:44 AMThank you for those lovely comments.
If that's a bad day, on a good day I'm sure you look pretty darn amazing. Cute, cheery face; love the hair.
Do you mind if I ask how long you've been on HRT?
I am on spiro and just recently a low dose of cypro as well. Due to other health issues I am apparently unable to take oestrogen. /me sighs
I have been on spiro for just over 18 months and have been full time living and working for a whole 4 weeks ;D
Admittedly the company I work for had a pro take the photo for my web bio on their web site, so I guess I got good lighting and stuff as well. I will get a real world photo and post it for comparison when I get a moment of sanity :D.
hugs.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
Post by: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
Quote from: Windy on August 15, 2014, 04:29:01 AMI am on spiro and just recently a low dose of cypro as well. Due to other health issues I am apparently unable to take oestrogen.
Sorry to hear you can't take estrogen. :( Even so, for just T-blockers, those are some impressive results. You should be very proud.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on August 15, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
Post by: barbie on August 15, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
Gabby,
I also do not like the puzzled expressions of people when they hear my low voice, but anyway I speak to people when it is necessary. Their typical comment is "I thought you are a woman". Passing is actually not my business. My main target audience is my colleagues and friends.
Nothing serious happens when you are even clocked.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PMYou look feminine to me Gabrielle in this photo. I like the pattern on that dress your wearing also. :icon_yes:
This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on August 15, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
Post by: Handy on August 15, 2014, 03:59:56 PM
Quote from: katiej on August 07, 2014, 08:59:16 PM
Handy, I'll second what Alaia said. Minimal FFS would help, but don't go crazy.
Feminine eyebrows and hair style will help a ton. High cheekbones, full lips, hair for days...yeah, You're in pretty good shape.
Just wanted to say you made my day! XD I really like "hair for days" gonna start using that lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.
With makeup:
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q86/10453352_249374738590500_3714069734070367700_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/q81/10363351_231632533698054_5237530820998882977_n.jpg)
Without makeup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10013674_221582021369772_1807856795_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10170711_224561997738441_643892257655076868_n.jpg)
With makeup:
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q86/10453352_249374738590500_3714069734070367700_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/q81/10363351_231632533698054_5237530820998882977_n.jpg)
Without makeup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10013674_221582021369772_1807856795_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10170711_224561997738441_643892257655076868_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 15, 2014, 06:33:52 AM
Sorry to hear you can't take estrogen. :( Even so, for just T-blockers, those are some impressive results. You should be very proud.
hi Brenda. Here are some older photos taken perhaps 4 months ago while I was just mucking about with the web cam. These are before going full time. My hair is a bit longer now as well.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme.jpg&hash=671ba018d941799e52d41b4f0cfc3e9328a230f2) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme2.jpg&hash=dd5d54734f3034914f08f9edfdc1987e52e0148b) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme3.jpg&hash=22d01610f82141c4b6114c9b6fb82274fc484f2d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
Quote from: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 03:55:21 PM
You look feminine to me Gabrielle in this photo. I like the pattern on that dress your wearing also. :icon_yes:
Ali :icon_flower:
Thank you, Ali! :)
Quote from: barbie on August 15, 2014, 12:53:03 PM
Gabby,
I also do not like the puzzled expressions of people when they hear my low voice, but anyway I speak to people when it is necessary. Their typical comment is "I thought you are a woman". Passing is actually not my business. My main target audience is my colleagues and friends.
Nothing serious happens when you are even clocked.
barbie~~
Hi Barbie, thanks for that. I have somewhat mixed views on passing; I often want to be able to, yet I am well-aware that I am trans*, have not as yet begun HRT, and am only a short way down my path, and so the best I can ultimately hope for is to simply be accepted as me. After all, if someone rejects me upon realising I am trans* but was willing to accept me before they had any inkling thereof, well, that's not anyone I want long relations with. And the few friends I've come out to fortunately accept me whether or not I pass.
My worry about being clocked is primarily to do with threats of violence. I am not yet able to present as female when I am back at home in the Caribbean, and the story of someone like Dwayne Jones in Jamaica is the kind of thing that resonates with and terrifies me. While I am in a somewhat liberal little patch of Florida when I am not at home, I still get concerned if I see someone eyeing me a lot or following me around a bit. I've been fortunate so far; my biggest problems have been with employees in stores following me around more than they did other customers, including into the women's dressing area.
I don't mind being clocked so much if nothing comes of it, though it can feel disheartening when you *thought* you looked all right before leaving home, then see people laughing at and coming out of their way to look at you (as happened the last time I went to the mall, where a few teenage boys made a point of following me almost halfway around the mall, walked in front me, and then kept grinning and looking back at me). It could have been worse, of course, but these incidents always come back to me when I think of going out in girl mode again. Still, I have generally been clocked less (as far as I can tell) as my confidence in going out has increased, and I just need to keep at it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
Quote from: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.
With makeup:
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q86/10453352_249374738590500_3714069734070367700_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/q81/10363351_231632533698054_5237530820998882977_n.jpg)
Without makeup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10013674_221582021369772_1807856795_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10170711_224561997738441_643892257655076868_n.jpg)
You look like a pretty cis-girl to me! Your makeup looks good on you. :) The only photo that looks a bit andro- to me is the black and white one.
Gabby
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
Quote from: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PMGreat hair, Great facial features, hrt will do wonders for you! You have a great canvas for hrt to do it's magic on!
The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.
Without makeup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10013674_221582021369772_1807856795_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10170711_224561997738441_643892257655076868_n.jpg)
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 07:09:55 PM
Quote from: Allyda on August 15, 2014, 06:44:16 PM
Great hair, Great facial features, hrt will do wonders for you! You have a great canvas for hrt to do it's magic on!
Ali :icon_flower:
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:55:16 PM
You look like a pretty cis-girl to me! Your makeup looks good on you. :) The only photo that looks a bit andro- to me is the black and white one.
Gabby
Thank you both, very much! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 07:14:17 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
This was from my first time ever wearing a dress in public and also the first time I ventured out sleeveless in girl mode. I had gone to Kohl's earlier, found a long dress I liked that was on sale, and decided to take a risk and walk around somewhere to see if people would notice. I ended up going to Wal-Mart, in part because it was almost 11 at night and most other places were closed, and I was a bit terrified. But no one really gave me much of a look, and I felt so happy, since I had finally walked around in a dress, something I had wanted to ever since I was a child. I wasn't able to get a good photo of the dress itself, but it was a night that meant a lot for me. I keep setting little goals--try going to this place in girl mode; try wearing this piece of clothing, then that piece; go up to someone this time and speak to them; be slightly more feminine around my family so they might be less shocked when they find out, etc.--and they've helped me move forward. But getting the courage to speak to people is difficult for me, and I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
Well to my old eyes you sure don't look like male, your a pass for sure, and about to party! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
Post by: Windy on August 15, 2014, 07:16:37 PM
Quote from: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
The pictures with makeup aren't edited, I couldn't find the originals of the non-makeup ones. All they're edited with are filters from different iPod Apps. My hair is natural/real, I haven't had any hormone replacement therapy.
With makeup:
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q86/10453352_249374738590500_3714069734070367700_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/q81/10363351_231632533698054_5237530820998882977_n.jpg)
Without makeup:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10013674_221582021369772_1807856795_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10170711_224561997738441_643892257655076868_n.jpg)
You are a pretty cis girl any which way I look at you. You will develop a treat for sure :) I love your eyes and hair.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 07:46:54 PM
Quote from: Windy on August 15, 2014, 07:16:37 PMThank you! :D
You are a pretty cis girl any which way I look at you. You will develop a treat for sure :) I love your eyes and hair.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 15, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 15, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 12:42:43 PM
I always get scared when I know someone has clocked me, since I'm usually out by myself somewhere. Baby steps.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1272.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy385%2Fjrb09k%2FIMG_1264_zps256f9667.jpg&hash=74f033ea3a6b8d703b66f58fbf9760e095094726)
Don't worry about it, you're the kind of women who when she enters a room the whole room lights up and everyone looks, it's a blessing and you're not getting clocked just admired. I'll bet that you have a very vivacious, outgoing personality too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on August 16, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
Post by: Hikari on August 16, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
Honestly gabby I think you are looking pretty good. I don't think you have much to worry about. It can be a bit scary to be yourself in public at first but once you become comfortable and you can relax it is just a wonderful feeling.
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:39:05 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:39:05 AM
Quote from: Allyda on August 14, 2014, 02:28:04 PMThanks! Yes it's a wig! Spend a lot of time looking for a synthetic one that suited me that wasn't horrendously expensive but looked real enough, thank you! Yes i prefer the skirt too, but when its cold or I need to dress slightly more Conservative, I'd like to know I can pull off the jeans. I'm also wearing Control underwear in both images to help with the waist.
Yes, These are definitely better and I like the skirt better. It makes you look more feminine. You have great hair!, or is that a wig? In either case you look better in the skirt IMHO.
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:44:18 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:44:18 AM
Quote from: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:48:21 PMThanks! I'd like to know what worried you specifically btw :) since id like to try and improve those.
Night and day difference! When you first posted the pictures I was a little worried for you. But not anymore. In fact, I'd love to hear how you're doing your beard cover.
As for the beard cover, a really close shave followed by moisturizer, bb cream and then foundation stick to contour, using my hands and brushes. I combined a skin tones foundation with a darker one, so I made the hollows of my cheeck darker to make my face seem thinner and my beard area appear lighter. Glad to know it workes. Next free weekend I have I'm going to try Kim Kardashian makeup look! I'll post some pics so you guys can see how it looks
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
Quote from: katiej on August 14, 2014, 06:50:42 PMThanks! As I said earlier, prefer the skirt but need to find kean options too. I'll try the cardigan idea if i can find one, but on a scale of one to 10 could you rate the jeans look with and without Blazer? I'd like to know which looks are great, and which are ok but I still pass with :) (I have a style notebook where I document all this xd. I'm meticulous like that)
Agreed. A-line skirts give the impression of curves that we don't naturally have. With the jeans maybe you could wear a loose-fitting cardigan to hide the lack of curves.
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:30 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:30 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on August 14, 2014, 08:05:27 PMH & m! :d
I want that skirt!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on August 16, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
Post by: barbie on August 16, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 15, 2014, 05:53:41 PM
My worry about being clocked is primarily to do with threats of violence. I am not yet able to present as female when I am back at home in the Caribbean, and the story of someone like Dwayne Jones in Jamaica is the kind of thing that resonates with and terrifies me. While I am in a somewhat liberal little patch of Florida when I am not at home, I still get concerned if I see someone eyeing me a lot or following me around a bit. I've been fortunate so far; my biggest problems have been with employees in stores following me around more than they did other customers, including into the women's dressing area.
Gabby,
Yes. Definitely threats of violence do matter. Once I alone ran for exercise along the streets in a downtown Russian city, and a group of men shouted at me, making me think that this is not a safe place. Also, I was once assaulted by a man for rape in the U.S., and I thought that I would be killed once he recognized my sex. He just ran away.
Fortunately, here no such threat. Moreover, I usually go out with my friends.
Several years ago, I was once clocked by a young sales woman in a beauty shop, and she recklessly shouted like "I thought you are a woman, but you are actually a man!". I was a little bit upset, but this sometimes happens. The the bottom line is that my gender identity has no business with them. Even in this case, nowadays I just smile at them, exchanging some jokes.
My close women praise my fashion and beauty. Some of them say they would not dare to walk with me while wearing mini-skirt. Men say that my fashion sense is far better than most women here, urging other women to take care of their appearance more. All of them know my family and background very well.
Depending on the culture, you may choose the best option for your passing. Passing more requires more restriction in the freedom of your daily life and socialization. I prefer freedom.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 16, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 16, 2014, 09:07:40 PM
Quote from: trinityvause on August 15, 2014, 04:52:54 PM
With makeup:
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/t1.0-9/q86/10453352_249374738590500_3714069734070367700_n.jpg) (https://scontent-b-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/q81/10363351_231632533698054_5237530820998882977_n.jpg)
Damn girl you gorgeous <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up ;D ;)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F20prjno.jpg&hash=23068a8faebfff9c7db2c8d5fd53e3e00a2070ee) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2iu7ssg.jpg&hash=09d1e89459bb6f40768b107ab35910b8bdcfa36f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Ficsfp2.jpg&hash=98dc50c51629b15f29491f9e0b99580703dc1c5e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F35k3luv.jpg&hash=95de28814879862ad4fd2c2bdfad7d39f7f700ba)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F20prjno.jpg&hash=23068a8faebfff9c7db2c8d5fd53e3e00a2070ee) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2iu7ssg.jpg&hash=09d1e89459bb6f40768b107ab35910b8bdcfa36f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Ficsfp2.jpg&hash=98dc50c51629b15f29491f9e0b99580703dc1c5e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F35k3luv.jpg&hash=95de28814879862ad4fd2c2bdfad7d39f7f700ba)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 16, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
Post by: stephaniec on August 16, 2014, 09:44:52 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PMcute
Playing with make up ;D ;)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F20prjno.jpg&hash=23068a8faebfff9c7db2c8d5fd53e3e00a2070ee) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2F2iu7ssg.jpg&hash=09d1e89459bb6f40768b107ab35910b8bdcfa36f)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Ficsfp2.jpg&hash=98dc50c51629b15f29491f9e0b99580703dc1c5e) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F35k3luv.jpg&hash=95de28814879862ad4fd2c2bdfad7d39f7f700ba)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 16, 2014, 10:14:41 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 16, 2014, 10:14:41 PM
Quote from: barbie on August 16, 2014, 03:12:04 PM
Gabby,
Yes. Definitely threats of violence do matter. Once I alone ran for exercise along the streets in a downtown Russian city, and a group of men shouted at me, making me think that this is not a safe place. Also, I was once assaulted by a man for rape in the U.S., and I thought that I would be killed once he recognized my sex. He just ran away.
Fortunately, here no such threat. Moreover, I usually go out with my friends.
Several years ago, I was once clocked by a young sales woman in a beauty shop, and she recklessly shouted like "I thought you are a woman, but you are actually a man!". I was a little bit upset, but this sometimes happens. The the bottom line is that my gender identity has no business with them. Even in this case, nowadays I just smile at them, exchanging some jokes.
My close women praise my fashion and beauty. Some of them say they would not dare to walk with me while wearing mini-skirt. Men say that my fashion sense is far better than most women here, urging other women to take care of their appearance more. All of them know my family and background very well.
Depending on the culture, you may choose the best option for your passing. Passing more requires more restriction in the freedom of your daily life and socialization. I prefer freedom.
barbie~~
I'm so sorry to hear about what has happened to you in the past! And I'm glad you are in a safer place. :) I agree with you that what I want above anything else is freedom to be me. I would rather be accepted if clocked than the opposite.
Quote from: Hikari on August 16, 2014, 01:33:15 AM
Honestly gabby I think you are looking pretty good. I don't think you have much to worry about. It can be a bit scary to be yourself in public at first but once you become comfortable and you can relax it is just a wonderful feeling.
Thank you! That means a lot coming from you, honestly.
Quote from: Shantel on August 15, 2014, 09:28:29 PM
Don't worry about it, you're the kind of women who when she enters a room the whole room lights up and everyone looks, it's a blessing and you're not getting clocked just admired. I'll bet that you have a very vivacious, outgoing personality too.
Thank you! Now I'm blushing. I am anything but vivacious, however. I usually have to be pried out of my shell by experts.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 16, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 16, 2014, 10:16:43 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up ;D ;)
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You look super, super cute! That lipstick really suits you. I wouldn't have gendered you anything but a pretty cis-girl. I love the top and bottom right photos the best.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Post by: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Just started living full time. How do I look?
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Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 12:53:57 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 16, 2014, 08:46:14 AM
on a scale of one to 10 could you rate the jeans look with and without Blazer? I'd like to know which looks are great, and which are ok but I still pass with :) (I have a style notebook where I document all this xd. I'm meticulous like that)
I don't know about scale of 1 to 10, but I wouldn't wear that blazer with the jeans. Because it's short, it accents your lack of hips with the jeans. But the a-line skirt flares out just under the blazer giving the illusion of hips...just like it would for a cis woman with hips.
A more traditional blazer with an hourglass shape cut might look better with the jeans.
The style notebook is a great idea! I've started doing Pinterest to keep track of outfit ideas and remembering what I need to buy and not buying dumb things I'd never wear.
Fashion and makeup are such a huge part of being a woman and blending in, and we don't have the benefit of decades of growing up in that world. So we have to put in extra effort to figure things out quickly.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 17, 2014, 02:39:11 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 17, 2014, 02:39:11 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1489164361329904&set=a.1489163854663288.1073741828.100007090620441&type=3&theater)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10351612_1491280521118288_3555408627985065054_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1622097_1491280621118278_1806370347671524320_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10351070_1491280871118253_9112219306331205406_n.jpg?oh=036faff456eba54bd35d3470b0202ea7&oe=54781DE6&__gda__=1415388889_5b31079be60313e0eec21ac0f93d38a4)
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Okay, this isn't really a can I pass right now, bc I am no where close to being fulltime. Its more of a after I start and am on hrt for a while type question. Also I am using a cheap wig I cut and styled a little. I started growing my own hair out a little more than a month ago from a military style cut.
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Okay, this isn't really a can I pass right now, bc I am no where close to being fulltime. Its more of a after I start and am on hrt for a while type question. Also I am using a cheap wig I cut and styled a little. I started growing my own hair out a little more than a month ago from a military style cut.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 17, 2014, 05:05:24 AM
Post by: trinityvause on August 17, 2014, 05:05:24 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:07:40 PMThank you, very same to you beautiful! <3
Damn girl you gorgeous <3
Title: Re: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 17, 2014, 07:22:47 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 17, 2014, 07:22:47 AM
Quote from: katiej on August 17, 2014, 12:53:57 AMAgreed, however having said that, did you know that magazines and runway models are often selected for having broad shoulders and small hips, I. E. Builds associated with men. As such, rather than making a bee line for a body shape I cannot achieve, I'm currently aiming to emulate the physique of magazine/runway models (minus the anorexia). As such I hope to be able to manage looks with jeans for that purpose, although you're right, I should aim for waist shrinking Blazers, to help accentuate the appropriate assets.
I don't know about scale of 1 to 10, but I wouldn't wear that blazer with the jeans. Because it's short, it accents your lack of hips with the jeans. But the a-line skirt flares out just under the blazer giving the illusion of hips...just like it would for a cis woman with hips.
A more traditional blazer with an hourglass shape cut might look better with the jeans.
The style notebook is a great idea! I've started doing Pinterest to keep track of outfit ideas and remembering what I need to buy and not buying dumb things I'd never wear.
Fashion and makeup are such a huge part of being a woman and blending in, and we don't have the benefit of decades of growing up in that world. So we have to put in extra effort to figure things out quickly.
Now having thought of it, that's where I need to work on next, waistline, which will allow me to better emulate the physique I'm I am aiming for. From here you can always pad up where necessary, but at least I like to know I have a workable base physique to build from :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 17, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 17, 2014, 10:31:14 AM
Quote from: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Just started living full time. How do I look?
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Hi Zoe,
I think you look androgynous here. You look good, but I would have a moment or two of uncertainty gendering you. I might lean towards gendering you female because of the clothing and possibly the hair, but I'm not sure. If your hair is down, you might pass more, if you're wearing the same clothes. Small additions can help if you want to use them--nail polish, a tiny bit of makeup. These obviously aren't necessary but could help at a glance.
It's great to be brave enough to live full-time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 17, 2014, 10:48:05 AM
Post by: Shantel on August 17, 2014, 10:48:05 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up ;D ;)
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Such a little doll face and all girl for sure!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Maleth on August 17, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
Post by: Maleth on August 17, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
Just wanted to drop in and say all of you ladies are looking gorgeous!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 17, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 17, 2014, 01:35:22 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 17, 2014, 02:39:11 AMOkay, this isn't really a can I pass right now, bc I am no where close to being fulltime. Its more of a after I start and am on hrt for a while type question. Also I am using a cheap wig I cut and styled a little. I started growing my own hair out a little more than a month ago from a military style cut.
Hair...takes such a long time, doesn't it? >:(
I see nothing in your photos that makes me think you wouldn't blossom on HRT. Nothing stands out as being irredeemably male, so you're in good shape.
In the interim, you may want to upgrade to a better wig. I started with the cheap wigs (the $20 kind of thing) and ended up hopelessly frustrated with how difficult they were to make look good. Once I moved up to a better wig (like $50, give or take - still artificial fibers and not human hair, but a pretty close approximation), I was amazed at how much easier it was for me to look passable. It's a worthwhile investment.
Love the bold use of color in your current hair though. I could never pull something like that off, and I'm in awe of those who dare to try!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 17, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 17, 2014, 01:39:40 PM
Quote from: Windy on August 15, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
hi Brenda. Here are some older photos taken perhaps 4 months ago while I was just mucking about with the web cam. These are before going full time. My hair is a bit longer now as well.
Love the hair! Truly, it's like a masterclass in how to pick at style that is feminine, respectable and age-appropriate. My own locks should be close to that length soon - same color too - so I may have to copy what you've done. You may soon have a US-based identical twin.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 17, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 17, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
Quote from: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PM
Just started living full time. How do I look?
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I think that you pass, not all women wear a lot of make up and skirts or dresses most of the day, so yeah you look good =) love your long hair <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 03:17:58 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 16, 2014, 09:13:20 PM
Playing with make up ;D ;)
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Emily, I still can't believe you're pre everything. I can't wait to see what estrogen does for you...I'd imagine quite a lot! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 03:19:19 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on August 17, 2014, 03:16:58 PM
not all women wear a lot of make up and skirts or dresses most of the day
This is true. But if you're borderline passing, those more traditional girly things can help tip the scale in your favor.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 17, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 17, 2014, 05:22:15 PM
Quote from: Windy on August 15, 2014, 05:25:57 PM
hi Brenda. Here are some older photos taken perhaps 4 months ago while I was just mucking about with the web cam. These are before going full time. My hair is a bit longer now as well.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme.jpg&hash=671ba018d941799e52d41b4f0cfc3e9328a230f2) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme2.jpg&hash=dd5d54734f3034914f08f9edfdc1987e52e0148b) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.alderwick.kiwi.nz%2Fphotos%2Fme3.jpg&hash=22d01610f82141c4b6114c9b6fb82274fc484f2d)
I'm sorry, Windy, I forgot to thank you for your kind words. And I really like your hair and earrings. That last photo is great. You actually look a bit like one of my favourite female lit teachers from undergrad! :)
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on August 17, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
Post by: Emo on August 17, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
I can handle the truth. Give it to me straight.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
Post by: katiej on August 17, 2014, 08:56:50 PM
Quote from: Emo on August 17, 2014, 08:31:23 PM
I can handle the truth. Give it to me straight.
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You're cute, and you have full lips, no obvious beard shadow, high cheek bones, and a full head of hair. I'm envious. :)
Seriously, you're in really good shape. Have you started HRT yet?
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emo on August 17, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
Post by: Emo on August 17, 2014, 09:28:52 PM
Quote from: katiej on August 17, 2014, 08:56:50 PMAround 7 months now. Thanks. :3
You're cute, and you have full lips, no obvious beard shadow, high cheek bones, and a full head of hair. I'm envious. :)
Seriously, you're in really good shape. Have you started HRT yet?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 02:40:50 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 02:40:50 AM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 17, 2014, 01:35:22 PMoh god you brightened my day, you have no idea how comments like that can brighten a depressed individual's day. Thank you, I hope to see pics of you on her I'm shure your a beautiful person and could pull anything off you wanted.
Hair...takes such a long time, doesn't it? >:(
I see nothing in your photos that makes me think you wouldn't blossom on HRT. Nothing stands out as being irredeemably male, so you're in good shape.
In the interim, you may want to upgrade to a better wig. I started with the cheap wigs (the $20 kind of thing) and ended up hopelessly frustrated with how difficult they were to make look good. Once I moved up to a better wig (like $50, give or take - still artificial fibers and not human hair, but a pretty close approximation), I was amazed at how much easier it was for me to look passable. It's a worthwhile investment.
Love the bold use of color in your current hair though. I could never pull something like that off, and I'm in awe of those who dare to try!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 17, 2014, 02:39:11 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1489164361329904&set=a.1489163854663288.1073741828.100007090620441&type=3&theater)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/t1.0-9/10351612_1491280521118288_3555408627985065054_n.jpg)(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/t1.0-9/1622097_1491280621118278_1806370347671524320_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t1.0-9/10351070_1491280871118253_9112219306331205406_n.jpg?oh=036faff456eba54bd35d3470b0202ea7&oe=54781DE6&__gda__=1415388889_5b31079be60313e0eec21ac0f93d38a4)
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Okay, this isn't really a can I pass right now, bc I am no where close to being fulltime. Its more of a after I start and am on hrt for a while type question. Also I am using a cheap wig I cut and styled a little. I started growing my own hair out a little more than a month ago from a military style cut.
I agree with Brenda. I think you have a huge amount of potential! You'll do just fine. I'm not sure about the wig either (though I love the colour!), and I feel split about those particular glasses, though I think the glasses look cute on you in the last photo. Those are minor things.
Looking forward to your next round of progress updates! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 11:25:31 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 11:25:31 AM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
I agree with Brenda. I think you have a huge amount of potential! You'll do just fine. I'm not sure about the wig either (though I love the colour!), and I feel split about those particular glasses, though I think the glasses look cute on you in the last photo. Those are minor things.
Looking forward to your next round of progress updates! :)
Thanks so much! I don't go in public at all dressed,I dress when by myself just for piece of mind. I'm growing my hair out, but I only been growing it out for a month I got to get rid of my muscle mass up top, also got to get my voice down. I plan on starting hormones this month, so I'll keep my fingers crossed, when I get my weight to 2006 levels, I was still active duty then, I weighed 170, I put on a lot of Muscle mass since then but back then I was skinny enough to start, but good news I've lost 30 pounds in about two months, from 265 to 235, I didn't look 265, I was just a lot bulkier, so wot be long and I'll be ah my right weight, I think gonna start her before then but I'm pretty confident I can continue losing weight once on hrt. But anyway, you know how to brighten my day, thanks!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
So, this just happened... :)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 03:47:30 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 03:47:30 PM
Today was my first day as a junior in high school. Again, I haven't started hormone replacement therapy, yet.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 18, 2014, 03:56:54 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 18, 2014, 03:56:54 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
So, this just happened... :)
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What happened? I remember Your previous (very first picture). Now... You have changed :). You do look like a girl now!
Quote from: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 03:47:30 PM
Today was my first day as a junior in high school. Again, I haven't started hormone replacement therapy, yet.
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10609417_1496062897305319_4895506955230971530_n.jpg)
Ahhh, those young kids, blessed with age and looks :). HRT would certainly compliment Your features... not that You really need that at the moment though, cause You look great already :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 04:09:37 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 04:09:37 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 18, 2014, 03:56:54 PMIt's all about angles and filters. :P Eventually that won't be necessary. If I showed you a photo of me without any alterations you'd be like, "holy crap! make it go away!" hehe
What happened? I remember Your previous (very first picture). Now... You have changed :). You do look like a girl now!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 18, 2014, 04:12:31 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 18, 2014, 04:12:31 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 04:09:37 PM
It's all about angles and filters. :P Eventually that won't be necessary. If I showed you a photo of me without any alterations you'd be like, "holy crap! make it go away!" hehe
Well, I am sure I could handle that, but lets not test it out, ok? :) But I do stand by my words - You do closely resemble one of my butch lesbian acquaintances though :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 04:13:18 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 04:13:18 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 18, 2014, 04:12:31 PMThat's what I like to hear! <3
Well, I am sure I could handle that, but lets not test it out, ok? :) But I do stand by my words - You do closely resemble one of my butch lesbian acquaintances though :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 04:36:33 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 04:36:33 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 18, 2014, 03:56:54 PMThank you, lovely. :-*
Ahhh, those young kids, blessed with age and looks :). HRT would certainly compliment Your features... not that You really need that at the moment though, cause You look great already :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10357584_306921479490398_3178479097625256660_n.jpg) I haven't started hormones yet either but how do I look!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 18, 2014, 06:16:37 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 18, 2014, 06:16:37 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10357584_306921479490398_3178479097625256660_n.jpg) I haven't started hormones yet either but how do I look!
Oh yeah!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 07:29:55 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10357584_306921479490398_3178479097625256660_n.jpg) I haven't started hormones yet either but how do I look!
Girl you look good, I like how you already don't have a lot of muscle mass, I will be soooo happy if and when I get rid of my muscle mass.
I don't have experience with hrt buy it should do wonders from what I hear. See im skinny but I am bulky as hell. God I wish I was skinny in the muscle area. Looking forward to see your transition!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
Quote from: trinityvause on August 18, 2014, 03:47:30 PM
Today was my first day as a junior in high school. Again, I haven't started hormone replacement therapy, yet.
(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xfa1/t1.0-9/10609417_1496062897305319_4895506955230971530_n.jpg)
You look great! :) Just from the photos I've seen so far, you should have no trouble passing as far as appearance goes.
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 02:32:33 PM
So, this just happened... :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.lux-occultus.com%2Fimages%2Ffacebook_pass.png&hash=6575a4b1d7799629228d90f07f88f17bcb7671aa)
That's awesome! Those little things can mean so much. Coincidentally, I was told today that one of my social media photos looked like a girl's, but the person telling me meant it in a negative way. On the inside, I was overjoyed, but I had to try to brush it off. She actually ended up telling me I needed to grow a beard, or, by her logic, no girl could possibly be interested in me. The ironies of transitioning largely in secret.
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 05:37:22 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10357584_306921479490398_3178479097625256660_n.jpg) I haven't started hormones yet either but how do I look!
I think you're well on your way, Amber! :) HRT will do wonders for you. You have a lot of potential because you have some really nice features to work with. Also, it's not essential, since many girls, myself included, haven't done much or anything to their eyebrows, but I think working on your eyebrows a little might help. Good luck!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 07:44:21 PM
I think you're well on your way, Amber! :) HRT will do wonders for you. You have a lot of potential because you have some really nice features to work with. Also, it's not essential, since many girls, myself included, haven't done much or anything to their eyebrows, but I think working on your eyebrows a little might help. Good luck!
thnk you! yea I definitely agree that my eyebrows are could use some work.
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 18, 2014, 07:29:55 PMI actually lost 30-35 pounds of muscle in the past two years. I was pretty buff in high school, I used to lift weights a lot for football. I was actually captain of my football team. how many girls can say that!! lol
Girl you look good, I like how you already don't have a lot of muscle mass, I will be soooo happy if and when I get rid of my muscle mass.
I don't have experience with hrt buy it should do wonders from what I hear. See im skinny but I am bulky as hell. God I wish I was skinny in the muscle area. Looking forward to see your transition!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 07:44:21 PMThe sucky part is "until I realized it was you." Like, geez.. thanks. :P Nah, she's my favourite roomie. As far as no girl being interested in us, that's just a big ol' load of doggie doodle.
That's awesome! Those little things can mean so much. Coincidentally, I was told today that one of my social media photos looked like a girl's, but the person telling me meant it in a negative way. On the inside, I was overjoyed, but I had to try to brush it off. She actually ended up telling me I needed to grow a beard, or, by her logic, no girl could possibly be interested in me. The ironies of transitioning largely in secret.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 18, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 18, 2014, 08:51:17 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 08:36:37 PM
The sucky part is "until I realized it was you." Like, geez.. thanks. :P Nah, she's my favourite roomie. As far as no girl being interested in us, that's just a big ol' load of doggie doodle.
I have all kinds of lady friends that like me so yeah, that's a load of puckie! And I get sired a lot and ma'am'ed occasionally, meh no big thing!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 18, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
So, I definitely need to do something about the brows. I know, the colour is all weird, but I often make my pics like that when they've been taken with a phone cam...in less than ideal lighting.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/6e81ff07d47612d67eafc371e16b9d4e/tumblr_nai3vhgKmK1sny86jo2_r1_500.png)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/6e81ff07d47612d67eafc371e16b9d4e/tumblr_nai3vhgKmK1sny86jo2_r1_500.png)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 18, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 18, 2014, 11:27:52 PM
Quote from: Zoe Snow on August 16, 2014, 10:41:47 PMYou look good Zoe but i'm leaning toward Andro because of your pants and shoes. Change those out for something more feminine and I think you'll look great!
Just started living full time. How do I look?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FksyPJ65.jpg&hash=39edfbddbc9b99186f2db8442a57c3cbe754a38e)
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 01:02:02 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 01:02:02 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 18, 2014, 08:00:40 PM
thnk you! yea I definitely agree that my eyebrows are could use some work.I actually lost 30-35 pounds of muscle in the past two years. I was pretty buff in high school, I used to lift weights a lot for football. I was actually captain of my football team. how many girls can say that!! lol
Yeah I was a team captain also, I was fullback and punt return. Then I was a team leader in he army... I have a lot of frickin muscle...
I am thin framed, It just don't look it right now bc of all the muscle. I haven't worked out in years but ugh still stuck with it. What you do to get rid of yours. hear is a pic I do not like but Ill post.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1604572_1491280764451597_967121876737144473_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10603559_1491280944451579_3031438003003447878_n.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/1610812_1489164361329904_1471998538881333314_n.jpg)
when ever I look side ways it makes my face look so much bigger than what it is, Also I don't go in public at all Id get clocked so fast. My therapist said that most of my muscle mass shoulg go away with hrt, then hopefully I can pull off tattood chick...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on August 19, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on August 19, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 01:02:02 AM
Yeah I was a team captain also, I was fullback and punt return. Then I was a team leader in he army... I have a lot of frickin muscle...
I am thin framed, It just don't look it right now bc of all the muscle. I haven't worked out in years but ugh still stuck with it. What you do to get rid of yours. hear is a pic I do not like but Ill post.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1604572_1491280764451597_967121876737144473_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10603559_1491280944451579_3031438003003447878_n.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/1610812_1489164361329904_1471998538881333314_n.jpg)
when ever I look side ways it makes my face look so much bigger than what it is, Also I don't go in public at all Id get clocked so fast. My therapist said that most of my muscle mass shoulg go away with hrt, then hopefully I can pull off tattood chick...
I'm battling with muscle too. A change in diet and HRT will help loads! I am at 8 months on HRT and I have been told that I look like a female triathlete and I started off with similar muscle as you.
I still wonder if I'll ever look more like a dainty flower than a triathlete. Its weird. A lot of the muscle is there but its so squishy. lol
You have a feminine face so that should help loads with the transition.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 19, 2014, 10:43:05 AM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 19, 2014, 10:43:05 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
So, I definitely need to do something about the brows. I know, the colour is all weird, but I often make my pics like that when they've been taken with a phone cam...in less than ideal lighting.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/6e81ff07d47612d67eafc371e16b9d4e/tumblr_nai3vhgKmK1sny86jo2_r1_500.png)
You have great soft features! A picture like this would probably also get comments that someone thought you were a girl at first glance, sort of like your last one. Are you growing out your hair?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 10:59:34 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 10:59:34 AM
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on August 19, 2014, 09:37:40 AM
I'm battling with muscle too. A change in diet and HRT will help loads! I am at 8 months on HRT and I have been told that I look like a female triathlete and I started off with similar muscle as you.
I still wonder if I'll ever look more like a dainty flower than a triathlete. Its weird. A lot of the muscle is there but its so squishy. lol
You have a feminine face so that should help loads with the transition.
Thanks sweetheart! I been on a diet for about two months. I was 265, I am now 235. I cut red meat, salt fat and bread. I eat vegatables that aren't starchy, I do drink v8 fusion and water, oh and green tea. I eat fish or chicken grilled on my foreman grill, or I eat at subway, chopped salad, I have my own 0 fat dressing. or a turkey sub on whole wheat no mayo or oil and vineagear, just turkey lettuce spinach, tomatoes pickles. I cant wait to get on hrt and get rid of the rest of my muscle.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 12:45:23 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 19, 2014, 10:43:05 AMThanks, and yep. Rocking the beanie until it's long enough to hide my hairline.
You have great soft features! A picture like this would probably also get comments that someone thought you were a girl at first glance, sort of like your last one. Are you growing out your hair?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on August 19, 2014, 01:04:40 PM
Post by: Hikari on August 19, 2014, 01:04:40 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 18, 2014, 09:42:00 PM
So, I definitely need to do something about the brows. I know, the colour is all weird, but I often make my pics like that when they've been taken with a phone cam...in less than ideal lighting.
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/6e81ff07d47612d67eafc371e16b9d4e/tumblr_nai3vhgKmK1sny86jo2_r1_500.png)
Every once in a while I will get my brows done professionally and then just maintain it. Brows aren't expensive just make sure the person knows you want feminine brows. No one ever questioned me when I asked for that. I think I paid $12 plus a $3 tip last time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 19, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 19, 2014, 01:35:14 PM
Quote from: Hikari on August 19, 2014, 01:04:40 PM
Every once in a while I will get my brows done professionally and then just maintain it. Brows aren't expensive just make sure the person knows you want feminine brows. No one ever questioned me when I asked for that. I think I paid $12 plus a $3 tip last time.
Hikari, What a fantastic idea. I will probably start doing is about a month, which will be the 3 month mark for me, when my boobies are just a bit bigger and my growing brown hair just a little longer...
Johanna.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 02:03:37 PM
Quote from: Hikari on August 19, 2014, 01:04:40 PMYeah, my mom said we could go together, so I'm just waiting for the word.
Every once in a while I will get my brows done professionally and then just maintain it. Brows aren't expensive just make sure the person knows you want feminine brows. No one ever questioned me when I asked for that. I think I paid $12 plus a $3 tip last time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 02:35:45 PM
The only thing about that pic is that I'm not a super smiley/bubbley person on a regular basis, so it's kind of deceptive.
Here's me without the weird editing, not trying to look a certain way, somewhere around the beginning of my self-revelation. My face looks unusually red here, though. I blame Photo Booth. That was taken in my flat in Toledo, Oregon. Yes, I'm wearing the same shirt. I have two of those shirts, and I wear them far too much.
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10254997_10154046662120253_4882620895510147577_n.jpg)
Here's me without the weird editing, not trying to look a certain way, somewhere around the beginning of my self-revelation. My face looks unusually red here, though. I blame Photo Booth. That was taken in my flat in Toledo, Oregon. Yes, I'm wearing the same shirt. I have two of those shirts, and I wear them far too much.
(https://scontent-b-dfw.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/10254997_10154046662120253_4882620895510147577_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on August 19, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
Post by: trinityvause on August 19, 2014, 03:50:04 PM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on August 18, 2014, 07:44:21 PMThank you! :)
You look great! :) Just from the photos I've seen so far, you should have no trouble passing as far as appearance goes.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 01:02:02 AMI think weighing as much as I did was really unnatural for me. As soon as I stopped lifting and trying to put on weight I just lost it all. I have a really high metabolism and I really don't eat that much so I just lost the way without really trying to.
Yeah I was a team captain also, I was fullback and punt return. Then I was a team leader in he army... I have a lot of frickin muscle...
I am thin framed, It just don't look it right now bc of all the muscle. I haven't worked out in years but ugh still stuck with it. What you do to get rid of yours. hear is a pic I do not like but Ill post.(https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/1604572_1491280764451597_967121876737144473_n.jpg)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/10603559_1491280944451579_3031438003003447878_n.jpg)(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-9/1610812_1489164361329904_1471998538881333314_n.jpg)
when ever I look side ways it makes my face look so much bigger than what it is, Also I don't go in public at all Id get clocked so fast. My therapist said that most of my muscle mass shoulg go away with hrt, then hopefully I can pull off tattood chick...
btw I was a tight end, until I became a wide receiver lol ;). I also played outside line backer but I cant really make that sound sexual.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
Post by: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 10:59:34 AM
Thanks sweetheart! I been on a diet for about two months. I was 265, I am now 235. I cut red meat, salt fat and bread. I eat vegatables that aren't starchy, I do drink v8 fusion and water, oh and green tea. I eat fish or chicken grilled on my foreman grill, or I eat at subway, chopped salad, I have my own 0 fat dressing. or a turkey sub on whole wheat no mayo or oil and vineagear, just turkey lettuce spinach, tomatoes pickles. I cant wait to get on hrt and get rid of the rest of my muscle.
HRT is the key, as is cutting protein, cardio cardio cardio, and sucking up the absolute misery of eating 1200 calories a day. Did I forget to mention cardio?
Worse than electrolysis.
Going vegetarian is the fastest way I've found to lose muscle quickly, but it's truly unpleasant
Don't go crazy though. Being in shape is far more attractive (to me) than being unheathily skeletal. There are plenty of bigger girls out there who are stunning, and plenty of waifs who look like crack addicts.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 06:06:30 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 04:56:12 PM
I think weighing as much as I did was really unnatural for me. As soon as I stopped lifting and trying to put on weight I just lost it all. I have a really high metabolism and I really don't eat that much so I just lost the way without really trying to.
btw I was a tight end, until I became a wide receiver lol ;). I also played outside line backer but I cant really make that sound sexual.
LMFAO, That made me laugh, I didn't catch it at first until you pointed it out. Hilarious, But I really am trying hard, I haven't worked out in years but I still kept big muscles. So I am focusing on losing right now. I will be so happy when I brake below 200. But that should be December or January. Gotta quit smoking also...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 19, 2014, 06:09:17 PM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
HRT is the key, as is cutting protein, cardio cardio cardio, and sucking up the absolute misery of eating 1200 calories a day. Did I forget to mention cardio?
Worse than electrolysis.
Going vegetarian is the fastest way I've found to lose muscle quickly, but it's truly unpleasant
Don't go crazy though. Being in shape is far more attractive (to me) than being unheathily skeletal. There are plenty of bigger girls out there who are stunning, and plenty of waifs who look like crack addicts.
Yeah I don't want to be rail thin, but 150 Is where I want to be. I float around 1200 to 1500 calories. No fat intake no salt, no starch no bread,
salads and fish or chicken cooked on a foreman grill. Those work btw. the real key is cutting portions, only eat to be satisfied not full. If you feel full then you ate to much.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 19, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 19, 2014, 06:26:14 PM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
HRT is the key, as is cutting protein, cardio cardio cardio, and sucking up the absolute misery of eating 1200 calories a day. Did I forget to mention cardio?
Worse than electrolysis.
Going vegetarian is the fastest way I've found to lose muscle quickly, but it's truly unpleasant
Don't go crazy though. Being in shape is far more attractive (to me) than being unheathily skeletal. There are plenty of bigger girls out there who are stunning, and plenty of waifs who look like crack addicts.
I had weight loss surgery last March and lost a tonne of weight fairly quickly and with it, a lot of muscle mass. This whilst on a high protein diet. I've gained a little weight back (I relapsed on sweets due to stress) but I'm trying to break the addiction again. I want to get down to around 158-160. I was 162 at my lowest and right now I'm 166-168. I just need to get off the crap foods again.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 06:38:33 PM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PM
HRT is the key, as is cutting protein, cardio cardio cardio, and sucking up the absolute misery of eating 1200 calories a day. Did I forget to mention cardio?
Worse than electrolysis.
Going vegetarian is the fastest way I've found to lose muscle quickly, but it's truly unpleasant
Don't go crazy though. Being in shape is far more attractive (to me) than being unheathily skeletal. There are plenty of bigger girls out there who are stunning, and plenty of waifs who look like crack addicts.
I lost 35 pounds after having lived in a small mill town in Oregon for a year. I was originally around 175 lbs, and when I got back to Texas I was at 142. I had a very noticeable belly in any form-fitting clothing, so I wore a jumper for several years. My family are big eaters and don't pay any attention to diet, so we always ate lots of Mexican and Italian food. Being away from that for so long has done me some good. I didn't really shy away from unhealthy foods like pizza and salami/pastrami sandwiches, but I ate considerably less.
Plus, I was taking an herbal supplement called kratom once or twice daily which is rich in beneficial alkaloids and fiber. It also really aids in anxiety and focus. Don't go looking for it in stores, though. It's still in a very controversial place in society due to its analgesic properties. Anyway, due to the fiber content it helped with suppressing appetite. And it helps in regulating blood sugar levels so that sweet cravings are diminished. Because it's not an FDA approved dietary supplement I cannot condone its usage. I can only say how it has helped me in various ways.
Also, after returning to Texas, I was finally able to get meds for ADHD. As some of you might now, one of the potential side effects of stimulants is appetite suppression, so the first month was almost like Ramadan for me, and I ended up watching my fat belly shrink in size. No more wearing jumpers all the time, although I probably will, anyway. It might be hot outside here, but it's always freezing to me everywhere I go that's indoors. But yeah, stimulant meds will burn fat like mad, and possibly even reduce muscle mass. I certainly don't condone that kind of off-label usage, though. I'm only reporting my experience. Now that I'm used to it my appetite is back, so I keep things in shape through yoga.
And you don't have to be flexible to start yoga. I was a rigid automaton when I started, and I'm still not there, but I'm seeing (and feeling) progress.
I can't say I've avoided meat proteins in my diet, but I haven't had a steak in over a year. It doesn't even really appeal to me anymore. I did have pork, though. :/ Most of what I eat is chicken, fish, fruit, granola, raw veg, portabella mushrooms, and stuff like tempeh and natto. I don't touch any kind of soy that hasn't been fermented. Tofu, soy milk and similar things might aid in estrogen production, but really aren't good for you otherwise.
Sorry to ramble completely off topic. I've never been all that good with short-and-sweet responses. I'm not even that yappy in person. I guess that's why it channels into my writing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
Post by: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 19, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 19, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine?
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2 words... absolutely nothing!
You are gorgeous Llerret. I can't see anything but girl in your features.
What's probably going on is that you still recognize aspects as your face that were a part of your image when presenting male. Of course, that face is imprinted in your brain after seeing it in the mirror for so many years. So it's only natural that you think you see male there because your brain is still using those old neural pathways that associate aspects of your face with the guy you used to present as.
But trust me, you look 100% woman. Be happy with the person you see in the mirror--she is beautiful! :D ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 19, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 19, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
All girl honey, and drop-dead-gorgeous!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 09:24:16 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 09:24:16 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PMthere really is nothing masculine about the way you look. you are so beautiful! I am totally jealous of how good you look, and I think most other women would be too. so keep ur head up. I think we all feel like we all think we look more masculine then we do, because we have seen the male version for such a long time. but trust me you pass and then some!
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JenP on August 19, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
Post by: JenP on August 19, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
So, I can't grow my hair long right now which I know isn't helping my case, and I am scheduled with Spiegel for FFS later this year. Right now I am 29 and at 8 months HRT, just wondering how I look with no makeup or wigs or anything else right now.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNcwix5e.jpg&hash=a2f1558eb37c65d754c4b28728b19d4bdfeaaaab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNcwix5e.jpg&hash=a2f1558eb37c65d754c4b28728b19d4bdfeaaaab)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 19, 2014, 10:33:55 PM
Post by: Wynternight on August 19, 2014, 10:33:55 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
You are stunning and I am jelly!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 19, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 19, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PM
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
You could probably be a model, right now.
If you want to be a model, I'd say go for it right now. This is how stunning you look.
Don't wait too long. The opportunity to be young and a model doesn't last forever.
Hugs,
Johanna.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 19, 2014, 10:56:02 PM
Quote from: JenP on August 19, 2014, 10:31:34 PMI'd hit on you, and I don't even know the first thing about flirting. :P In that pic you've got a butch thing going on, and that usually gets my attention. That may not be your final form, but it works for me. I'm eager to see what you show us next time. :)
So, I can't grow my hair long right now which I know isn't helping my case, and I am scheduled with Spiegel for FFS later this year. Right now I am 29 and at 8 months HRT, just wondering how I look with no makeup or wigs or anything else right now.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNcwix5e.jpg&hash=a2f1558eb37c65d754c4b28728b19d4bdfeaaaab)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 20, 2014, 12:03:40 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 20, 2014, 12:03:40 AM
Quote from: llerret on August 19, 2014, 07:16:35 PMHoly frickin crap, I am super duper jealous. I hope I have that kinda response to hrt, you're beautiful.
When I look at myself, some of my features just seem off to me and remind me of my old self even though I know that it's changed a lot. What specifically do you think causes me to look less feminine? I'm thinking my....idk lol
(https://scontent-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t1.0-0/10559752_254348424760467_1302852512229286966_n.jpg)
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:46:50 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:46:50 AM
Quote from: Brenda E on August 19, 2014, 05:33:12 PMI would have to disagree about the protein (and to some extent the 1200 calories). Protein is only an issue if you work out in a muscle building way. I consume lots of protein (as shakes, bars and the fact that I live on quinoa) and have not had much in the firm of muscle gain. My workout however is tailored to Toning and stretching, so my body repairs muscles Conducive to that. I .e. Slim and toned. As for calories, use a calorie calculator to determine where you should be at. Not eating enough calories can drive your body into retention mode, causing you to maintain or even gain weight with a low calorie count. Start at a few hundred calories below what you need to maintain, and as you loose weight you can decrease it down to 1200. Up until a few months ago, I was looking weight at 1500 calories, however I recently stopped losing, so I re evaluated, and am now at 1350. Remember don't look just at your Weight, examine your physique. You should be focusing on decreasing body fat not overall weight, as you an actually be incredibly thin but bordering obese because you have almost no muscle but all fat. To loose fat you need to tone tone tone. Toned muscle is heavier than fat, so if you gain weight, remember to check if your body fat percent went down. If it did you probably just toned muscle.
HRT is the key, as is cutting protein, cardio cardio cardio, and sucking up the absolute misery of eating 1200 calories a day. Did I forget to mention cardio?
Worse than electrolysis.
Going vegetarian is the fastest way I've found to lose muscle quickly, but it's truly unpleasant
Don't go crazy though. Being in shape is far more attractive (to me) than being unheathily skeletal. There are plenty of bigger girls out there who are stunning, and plenty of waifs who look like crack addicts.
As for workouts I do Barre method (physique 57) and yoga, at least one a day even if it's 20 mins of yoga
Title: Re: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Post by: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:46:50 AMForgot to mention a vegan /gluten free diet helps, but overall think healthy. I'm a health nut (obsessive almost), but you don't have to be, just watch what you put in your body
I would have to disagree about the protein (and to some extent the 1200 calories). Protein is only an issue if you work out in a muscle building way. I consume lots of protein (as shakes, bars and the fact that I live on quinoa) and have not had much in the firm of muscle gain. My workout however is tailored to Toning and stretching, so my body repairs muscles Conducive to that. I .e. Slim and toned. As for calories, use a calorie calculator to determine where you should be at. Not eating enough calories can drive your body into retention mode, causing you to maintain or even gain weight with a low calorie count. Start at a few hundred calories below what you need to maintain, and as you loose weight you can decrease it down to 1200. Up until a few months ago, I was looking weight at 1500 calories, however I recently stopped losing, so I re evaluated, and am now at 1350. Remember don't look just at your Weight, examine your physique. You should be focusing on decreasing body fat not overall weight, as you an actually be incredibly thin but bordering obese because you have almost no muscle but all fat. To loose fat you need to tone tone tone. Toned muscle is heavier than fat, so if you gain weight, remember to check if your body fat percent went down. If it did you probably just toned muscle.
As for workouts I do Barre method (physique 57) and yoga, at least one a day even if it's 20 mins of yoga
Title: Re: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: whatismylife on August 20, 2014, 03:53:45 AM
Post by: whatismylife on August 20, 2014, 03:53:45 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on August 20, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Forgot to mention a vegan /gluten free diet helps, but overall think healthy. I'm a health nut (obsessive almost), but you don't have to be, just watch what you put in your body
gluten free diet does absolutely nothing for you unless you have celiac disease. there is just no science for it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on August 20, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on August 20, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
llerret: head turner, let alone pass.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emmaline on August 20, 2014, 04:22:19 AM
Post by: Emmaline on August 20, 2014, 04:22:19 AM
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3 months hrt. Early days yet.
3 months hrt. Early days yet.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on August 20, 2014, 04:50:59 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on August 20, 2014, 04:50:59 AM
Quote from: Emmaline on August 20, 2014, 04:22:19 AMEarly days but passing nicley I would say
3 months hrt. Early days yet.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on August 20, 2014, 06:16:40 AM
Post by: Brenda E on August 20, 2014, 06:16:40 AM
Quote from: Emmaline on August 20, 2014, 04:22:19 AM
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3 months hrt. Early days yet.
Emmaline, I would be happy with that as my end result! You look great.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:42:14 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:42:14 AM
Quote from: Alaia on August 19, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
2 words... absolutely nothing!
You are gorgeous Llerret. I can't see anything but girl in your features.
What's probably going on is that you still recognize aspects as your face that were a part of your image when presenting male. Of course, that face is imprinted in your brain after seeing it in the mirror for so many years. So it's only natural that you think you see male there because your brain is still using those old neural pathways that associate aspects of your face with the guy you used to present as.
But trust me, you look 100% woman. Be happy with the person you see in the mirror--she is beautiful! :D ;D
Maybe that is it? I always look in the mirror and I see a different person but the same person at the same time. It's annoying. And then like people say they see woman but like I don't look like other women. I look different and I feel like it may be androgyny or something. Idk. I get annoyed with it. I need to recondition my brain.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:43:20 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:43:20 AM
Quote from: Shantel on August 19, 2014, 07:57:01 PM
All girl honey, and drop-dead-gorgeous!
Thank you so much
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:45:10 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:45:10 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 19, 2014, 09:24:16 PMThank you so much. I think I am still dealing with a LOT of insecurity from years of being called ugly and not looking how I imagined and things like that. I can't really see what's there because in so caught up with rigid normativity. I need to let it go
there really is nothing masculine about the way you look. you are so beautiful! I am totally jealous of how good you look, and I think most other women would be too. so keep ur head up. I think we all feel like we all think we look more masculine then we do, because we have seen the male version for such a long time. but trust me you pass and then some!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:45:29 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:45:29 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on August 19, 2014, 10:33:55 PM
You are stunning and I am jelly!!
Thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:46:41 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:46:41 AM
Quote from: JohannaJohn on August 19, 2014, 10:37:53 PM
You could probably be a model, right now.
If you want to be a model, I'd say go for it right now. This is how stunning you look.
Don't wait too long. The opportunity to be young and a model doesn't last forever.
Hugs,
Johanna.
Haha you think so? I don't like like all the other women so I've always been nervous to try. I do plan to audition for ANTM and see what happens. Thank you so much
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:48:05 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 20, 2014, 12:03:40 AM
Holy frickin crap, I am super duper jealous. I hope I have that kinda response to hrt, you're beautiful.
Lol thanks so much. And be patient. HRT does amazing things when you use it but also take great care of your body :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:48:45 AM
Post by: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:48:45 AM
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on August 20, 2014, 04:11:52 AM
llerret: head turner, let alone pass.
Thanks so much, doll
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 20, 2014, 08:33:02 AM
Post by: Shantel on August 20, 2014, 08:33:02 AM
Quote from: JenP on August 19, 2014, 10:31:34 PM
So, I can't grow my hair long right now which I know isn't helping my case, and I am scheduled with Spiegel for FFS later this year. Right now I am 29 and at 8 months HRT, just wondering how I look with no makeup or wigs or anything else right now.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNcwix5e.jpg&hash=a2f1558eb37c65d754c4b28728b19d4bdfeaaaab)
You're on the road to becoming a total stunner JenP!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 20, 2014, 09:03:00 AM
Post by: JohannaJohn on August 20, 2014, 09:03:00 AM
Quote from: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:46:41 AM
Haha you think so? I don't like like all the other women so I've always been nervous to try. I do plan to audition for ANTM and see what happens. Thank you so much
IMHO, I KNOW so. Your beauty is that of a model. America's Next Top Model may very well accept you. I feel very happy for you that you plan to audition for them.
So you obviously have thought a lot about this. You go girl!
There have been quite a few trans girls who have had lots of success in modeling of different types. I am American, but there I live in Colombia (South America) many young beautiful trans girls are able to be models. In the United States and other countries this most certainly has been done many times.
LLeret, IMO you have the looks that will make people WANT to see you as a model. Because guys will be guys with all their "strong 'drives'" (male necessities) and will look at you on TV or in person all day and all night. And cis females will want to watch you all the times, in part because they are jealous of your looks, and in part to see how you dress and use makeup and your hair styles.
And advertisers look model-type looks like yours...it is big money to them because everyone wants to watch you. Guys will have fantasies about you, and girls will want to admire your hair and figure and makeup and so on, and compare how THEY look, to how YOU look.
You go girl...I wish you all the best on ANTM...
:)
Johanna. I am 9 weeks on HRT with small boobs and soft skin and soft newly-growing beautiful hair down the back of my neck, but I will never be able to look like YOU. Congratulations!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 20, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 20, 2014, 05:05:48 PM
Quote from: llerret on August 20, 2014, 06:45:10 AMyea well we all have insecurities. I still avoid eye contact when im trying to pass because of my insecurity, but you are gorgeous. imo you are one of the most beautiful women I have seen on this site. I would be so happy if my transition goes as well as yours has.
Thank you so much. I think I am still dealing with a LOT of insecurity from years of being called ugly and not looking how I imagined and things like that. I can't really see what's there because in so caught up with rigid normativity. I need to let it go
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HeatherR on August 21, 2014, 09:08:14 AM
Post by: HeatherR on August 21, 2014, 09:08:14 AM
9 months, 2nd time around... mascara, eyeliner and a t-shirt... My levels are stagnant and low on all accounts, so I feel like I'm severely regressing... :(
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
Quote from: HeatherR on August 21, 2014, 09:08:14 AM
9 months, 2nd time around... mascara, eyeliner and a t-shirt... My levels are stagnant and low on all accounts, so I feel like I'm severely regressing... :(
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Umm, no, You are not regressing by any means! Look at Your jawline (it has softened down in comparison with Your avatar pic), Your face has that typically female subcutaneous fat, and You have got cleavage, dammit :D. I am at 15 months and not even a sign of that! Besides, You are in Your early thirties, so things might be going a bit slower - in my case it was 9-10 months mark when appearance started to lean towards female - so,please do not worry - many good things are ahead for You :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EllieM on August 21, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
Post by: EllieM on August 21, 2014, 12:52:34 PM
Quote from: Emmaline on August 20, 2014, 04:22:19 AMThat's after three months? Wow!
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3 months hrt. Early days yet.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 02:48:41 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 02:48:41 PM
So I moved out the other week and now I'm trying to work up the courage to go out running en femme for the first time. Nobody in this area really knows me, although I am surrounded by conservative LDS folks. My anxiety is pretty high, but I've got to start going out dressed as a woman at some time or another. Baby steps right? I guess I'll let you know later how it went or if I chickened out.
Anyway, no makeup on cuz of course I'll be sweating. I know my body is still pretty masculine, but what do you think?
-Alaia
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TmXkUYy1oJU/U_ZJEKF1OTI/AAAAAAAAAsw/TZzWrpWIWiQ/w649-h865-no/20140821-7.JPG)
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Anyway, no makeup on cuz of course I'll be sweating. I know my body is still pretty masculine, but what do you think?
-Alaia
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(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TmXkUYy1oJU/U_ZJEKF1OTI/AAAAAAAAAsw/TZzWrpWIWiQ/w649-h865-no/20140821-7.JPG)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
Quote from: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 02:48:41 PM
So I moved out the other week and now I'm trying to work up the courage to go out running en femme for the first time. Nobody in this area really knows me, although I am surrounded by conservative LDS folks. My anxiety is pretty high, but I've got to start going out dressed as a woman at some time or another. Baby steps right? I guess I'll let you know later how it went or if I chickened out.
Anyway, no makeup on cuz of course I'll be sweating. I know my body is still pretty masculine, but what do you think?
-Alaia
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-ZOZ1gwG9ijo/U_ZJDd8Zh6I/AAAAAAAAAso/lLf4jo95TFA/w649-h865-no/20140821-5.JPG)
(https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-TmXkUYy1oJU/U_ZJEKF1OTI/AAAAAAAAAsw/TZzWrpWIWiQ/w649-h865-no/20140821-7.JPG)
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-FZADBcGMPi8/U_ZJC0apJ-I/AAAAAAAAAss/ww51M0bE1OQ/w649-h865-no/20140821-6.JPG)
I think You can pull it off :). Running shoes are kinda sending mixed vibe to me, but well, from my own experience, people dont really scrutinise random joggers on the street, especially if You just swoosh past them ("On Your left!" :) ).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alice Bracken on August 21, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
Post by: Alice Bracken on August 21, 2014, 03:46:37 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on April 19, 2014, 02:19:32 AM
Hers ya go, the pikachu one is cuz I go by Ash and Im always getting asked where Pikachu is lol.
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Pika Pika!
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(this ones yucky I know and I look really guyish)
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Just hanging out :3
So, think Im passing yet :P I went to the park to play basket ball yesterday and got called female so something has to look half femme :P
OH MY. You are so BEAUTIFUL. I can only hope to look half as good as you when I transition.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 21, 2014, 03:11:10 PM
I think You can pull it off :). Running shoes are kinda sending mixed vibe to me, but well, from my own experience, people dont really scrutinise random joggers on the street, especially if You just swoosh past them ("On Your left!" :) ).
Yeah, I don't have any feminine running shoes yet. The run turned out to be pretty uneventful. I saw a few other people, even smiled and waved at them, but they ignored me for the most part. Probably didn't know how to respond to me. Eh, I'll take being ignored over being shot a "what the freak?" look any day.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 04:44:20 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 21, 2014, 04:44:20 PM
Quote from: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 04:29:06 PM
Yeah, I don't have any feminine running shoes yet. The run turned out to be pretty uneventful. I saw a few other people, even smiled and waved at them, but they ignored me for the most part. Probably didn't know how to respond to me. Eh, I'll take being ignored over being shot a "what the freak?" look any day.
What is Your usual jogging distance?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
Post by: Alaia on August 21, 2014, 05:09:14 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on August 21, 2014, 04:44:20 PMToday it was just 3 miles since it was my lunch break. Last night I ran a little over 7. I'm still trying to ramp up my endurance and speed, only managing 10 min miles on the longer runs.
What is Your usual jogging distance?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 21, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
Post by: llerret on August 21, 2014, 07:57:33 PM
Quote from: JohannaJohn on August 20, 2014, 09:03:00 AM
IMHO, I KNOW so. Your beauty is that of a model. America's Next Top Model may very well accept you. I feel very happy for you that you plan to audition for them.
So you obviously have thought a lot about this. You go girl!
There have been quite a few trans girls who have had lots of success in modeling of different types. I am American, but there I live in Colombia (South America) many young beautiful trans girls are able to be models. In the United States and other countries this most certainly has been done many times.
LLeret, IMO you have the looks that will make people WANT to see you as a model. Because guys will be guys with all their "strong 'drives'" (male necessities) and will look at you on TV or in person all day and all night. And cis females will want to watch you all the times, in part because they are jealous of your looks, and in part to see how you dress and use makeup and your hair styles.
And advertisers look model-type looks like yours...it is big money to them because everyone wants to watch you. Guys will have fantasies about you, and girls will want to admire your hair and figure and makeup and so on, and compare how THEY look, to how YOU look.
You go girl...I wish you all the best on ANTM...
:)
Johanna. I am 9 weeks on HRT with small boobs and soft skin and soft newly-growing beautiful hair down the back of my neck, but I will never be able to look like YOU. Congratulations!
omg this was amazing! Thank you so much <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 21, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 21, 2014, 08:10:10 PM
lleret, you look absolutely gorgeous! Seriously. And if you feel uncertain about your features, I have to emphasise what the other girls have said already: maybe you're just seeing your old face because pre-transition because you'd seen it for so long, when, in reality, to people seeing you at a glance on this forum, you're not simply a cis-girl but a stunning one, at that.
I know what it's like to feel that your face looks masculine. I see it in my own face all the time, even when I *know* that I do not look the way I think I do. I wonder about how I look from this angle, that angle; I wonder if I am deceiving myself that I have ever had a chance of passing. It's a hold-over from our early days of dysphoria that may take a while to get rid of. And some of our old features will remain with us unless we opt for extreme plastic surgery. But these features aren't necessarily that masculine, and many gorgeous cis-women have features that look just like the ones we may be stressing over.
And the only features I'm seeing in your photo are those of a beautiful woman. Be confident--you're beyond a multi-pass at this point! :)
I know what it's like to feel that your face looks masculine. I see it in my own face all the time, even when I *know* that I do not look the way I think I do. I wonder about how I look from this angle, that angle; I wonder if I am deceiving myself that I have ever had a chance of passing. It's a hold-over from our early days of dysphoria that may take a while to get rid of. And some of our old features will remain with us unless we opt for extreme plastic surgery. But these features aren't necessarily that masculine, and many gorgeous cis-women have features that look just like the ones we may be stressing over.
And the only features I'm seeing in your photo are those of a beautiful woman. Be confident--you're beyond a multi-pass at this point! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
One image is a bit blurry..., but I decided to try to do makeup for my first time, but had limited stuff. I could probably trim my fuzzy brows but im pre HRT, you think with some hrt i could pass?
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't shock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
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That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't shock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 07:56:56 AM
Quote from: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AMYou must be very young, and you look female already, also there is no such thing as a little hrt lol, once you start its a life long thing. But you look great and yeah even right now more than passable. I think if its the right path for you you would do great!
One image is a bit blurry..., but I decided to try to do makeup for my first time, but had limited stuff. I could probably trim my fuzzy brows but im pre HRT, you think with some hrt i could pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fnp0ytl.jpg&hash=b4f1bbd403ee9fe4a139814b568676c5b1449ce4)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 08:03:12 AM
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 08:03:12 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 07:56:56 AMI'm 21 now, so i would still consider that young, and thanks! That made me feel really great :)
You must be very young, and you look female already, also there is no such thing as a little hrt lol, once you start its a life long thing. But you look great and yeah even right now more than passable. I think if its the right path for you you would do great!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 22, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Post by: stephaniec on August 22, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AMyou look very nice for 5 months
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't schock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
Post by: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AMWithout a doubt you pass. you are really gorgeous.!
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't schock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on August 22, 2014, 08:46:34 AM
Post by: Leila on August 22, 2014, 08:46:34 AM
Quote from: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
One image is a bit blurry..., but I decided to try to do makeup for my first time, but had limited stuff. I could probably trim my fuzzy brows but im pre HRT, you think with some hrt i could pass?
You have a good foundation there for any HRT to do its work with. At 21 you are still quite young and also stand a good chance for feminising effects from HRT too.
I personally wouldn't recommend trimming the eyebrows but would suggest instead at least tidy them up with a pair of tweezers, preferably done by professional at a brow bar if you aren't sure how to do it. Depending how far you want to go could tell them you just want them tidied up around the edges or done in a more feminine style. If once you've been professionally tweezed, then you you just have to pluck the stray hairs away to maintain the new brow shape.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 11:48:14 AM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 11:48:14 AM
Quote from: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 08:28:56 AM
Without a doubt you pass. you are really gorgeous.!
Thank you very much :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 11:54:03 AM
Quote from: stephaniec on August 22, 2014, 08:18:02 AM
you look very nice for 5 months
Thank you! The E is helping a lot with my skin. But I had a nose job which helped me look more feminine and I've had around 15 laser hair removal sessions. One thing that reeaaaaly helps feminizing my face is the eyelashes. I get eyelash extensions twice a month and I find it very helpfull.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't schock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hvKKOldaFhc%2FU_dAFDFETOI%2FAAAAAAAAAAg%2FGq484UkoeQY%2Fs1600%2F20140814_144705.jpg&hash=d444b4ab44e764ab1c6bb7890f9a3550de36f593)
You look great, if you took t blockers I'm shure it be even better it looks like your doing good with e, wow.
Can I ask how old you are? I'm 30 and I'm curious bc I haven't started it yet, also why don't you take to blockers if I may ask?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 12:19:33 PM
You look great, if you took t blockers I'm shure it be even better it looks like your doing good with e, wow.
Can I ask how old you are? I'm 30 and I'm curious bc I haven't started it yet, also why don't you take to blockers if I may ask?
Thanks Cristy.
I'm 28. I don't take T blockers because I can't stand the idea of loosing my sex drive. Sex is really healthy and I want to be able to enjoy it without frustration. The estrogen alone already brought it down a bit so I won't even get close to T-blockers. Besides, even tough I identify as female, I have no problems with my male genitalia.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AMwelcome Carla! you definitely pass. your beautiful. im not sure about t blockers either I think im gonna try avoiding them at first like you. hopefully taking just e works as well for me as it did for you.
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't schock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 22, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 22, 2014, 04:33:05 PM
Quote from: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
One image is a bit blurry..., but I decided to try to do makeup for my first time, but had limited stuff. I could probably trim my fuzzy brows but im pre HRT, you think with some hrt i could pass?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Fnp0ytl.jpg&hash=b4f1bbd403ee9fe4a139814b568676c5b1449ce4)
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Yes, you have a very cute face to begin with!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 22, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
Post by: Shantel on August 22, 2014, 04:35:38 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
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You should probably be in the fabulous thread, very pretty!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on August 22, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Post by: llerret on August 22, 2014, 04:44:50 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 07:29:32 AM
Well, I'm new here and this is my very first post :-)
That's the way I look:
I don't think I pass, but because I don't look too intimidating people tend to treat me as female even tough they see that I'm not.
Of course I would prefer to pass, but having the respect of others is already something. I've been transitioning for one year, and have been taking Estrogen ( I don't take T-blockers) for 5 months now. At the beginning people would laugh about me on the streets so the simple fact that I don't schock them already makes me happy! I'll be having FFS end of November so it is probably going to get muuuuch better! At least I'm hoping so.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F2.bp.blogspot.com%2F-hvKKOldaFhc%2FU_dAFDFETOI%2FAAAAAAAAAAg%2FGq484UkoeQY%2Fs1600%2F20140814_144705.jpg&hash=d444b4ab44e764ab1c6bb7890f9a3550de36f593)
You look amazing! Grown woman
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 04:46:45 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 04:29:39 PM
welcome Carla! you definitely pass. your beautiful. im not sure about t blockers either I think im gonna try avoiding them at first like you. hopefully taking just e works as well for me as it did for you.
Hey Amber! Thanks for the compliment :-) If you're concerned about t blockers I would also wait and try it with E first. But it really depends on what your Goal is. If you want to have SRS you should definitely take t blockers, but that's not my case. I feel just fine being a girl who has a male genitalia. But like I posted before, other things have helped me a lot on looking a bit more passable. I have a nose job, got rid of 90% of my facial hair and can't live without my eyelash extensios :-)
Good luck with your transition. From what I see on your Avatar pic you're gonna turn out a graceful girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 06:23:41 PM
yea im still unsure if I want srs or not at this point. it is more of a probably not gonna get srs. I think I can be a women despite the fact that I have male genitalia, but if once my body becomes more female and I become more bothered by it. then I will get srs. I definitely plan laser hair removal, doing some eyebrow maintenance, and ffs and/or a trachea shave. here is a better pick of me.
(https://scontent-2.2914.fna.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10357584_306921479490398_3178479097625256660_n.jpg?oh=c41de49d5533b78036ec7f19a59aa8aa&oe=54717928)
also I know I don't quite pass yet but I feel like hrt help out a lot.
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also I know I don't quite pass yet but I feel like hrt help out a lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
Post by: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 06:39:53 PM
You have nice hair and your skin seems to be pretty good as well ( I assume you're not wearing makeup). Your lips have a perfect shape. In my opinion your nose is the most masculine feature on your face. I placed my finger on your nose in the picture and sudennly it looked like a girl's picture :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 22, 2014, 07:53:38 PM
thanks. but I am wearing a tad bit of makeup.
I live in Michigan in the U.S. and they require you to get some kind of feminization surgery in order for you to get your sex changed legally. they actually meant to make it that you had to have srs, but it wasn't worded right and it turns out that a trachea shave or ffs also work. do any know if ffs would include a nose job?
I live in Michigan in the U.S. and they require you to get some kind of feminization surgery in order for you to get your sex changed legally. they actually meant to make it that you had to have srs, but it wasn't worded right and it turns out that a trachea shave or ffs also work. do any know if ffs would include a nose job?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 07:56:58 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 22, 2014, 07:56:58 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 22, 2014, 01:01:58 PM
Thanks Cristy.
I'm 28. I don't take T blockers because I can't stand the idea of loosing my sex drive. Sex is really healthy and I want to be able to enjoy it without frustration. The estrogen alone already brought it down a bit so I won't even get close to T-blockers. Besides, even tough I identify as female, I have no problems with my male genitalia.
Yeah I don't know if I want srs yet, it depends on if I am single or not. I do think I want t blockers and e to get the most results, or maybe cycle t blockers, atleast stop them for a week every other month. Ive heard of people still being able to function on t blockers, they say it just takes more effort. Which is fine by me more effort means more fun, lol. but I have a friend that takes premarin, and woo howdy, that stuff is potent, so I think that what I want to take to. I know the safety and hazards but ive seen really good results from premarin. So as I progress there will be more pics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 22, 2014, 10:39:04 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 22, 2014, 10:39:04 PM
All these pics.. Look what you've done. Now I'm all vaclempt. Talk amongst yaselves. I'll give you a topic: Duran Duran is neither a duran nor a duran. Discuss!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 23, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 23, 2014, 12:12:25 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 22, 2014, 10:39:04 PM
All these pics.. Look what you've done. Now I'm all vaclempt. Talk amongst yaselves. I'll give you a topic: Duran Duran is neither a duran nor a duran. Discuss!
Que??? Why so distraught? You are looking really good, your young, I know it's easy to get down especially us trans peoples, but don't frown, there always a good side, and bad things don't last forever!
I hop you feel less vaclempt after this, muah
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 12:14:03 AM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 12:14:03 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 23, 2014, 12:12:25 AMHaha, no, I'm not upset. I'm just inspired and overwhelmed by everyone's amazing transformations. :) And thank you for the compliment!
Que??? Why so distraught? You are looking really good, your young, I know it's easy to get down especially us trans peoples, but don't frown, there always a good side, and bad things don't last forever!
I hop you feel less vaclempt after this, muah
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 12:19:26 AM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 12:19:26 AM
By the way, very cool hair (wig?). I've been contemplating getting something since my hair is a slowly growing and receding disaster. I've always loved really long hair, and deep red which would actually complement my complexion. I had long hair as a teenager, but since it was a huge goth phrase for me I dyed it black. Thinking back on it, black was a very bad choice. Then when I was 19 I cut it all off. *smacks self in face* Stupid, stupid me!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 12:19:26 AMI grew my hair to about the same length I have it now and it was so that I could start my transition like 1-2 years ago. then I went into a denial phase and pretended to be the average straight cis-guy again and cut it off. I wanted to cry after I got it cut. it only takes a little bit to get your hair long enough for more feminine hairstyles though.
By the way, very cool hair (wig?). I've been contemplating getting something since my hair is a slowly growing and receding disaster. I've always loved really long hair, and deep red which would actually complement my complexion. I had long hair as a teenager, but since it was a huge goth phrase for me I dyed it black. Thinking back on it, black was a very bad choice. Then when I was 19 I cut it all off. *smacks self in face* Stupid, stupid me!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 06:59:52 AM
I grew my hair to about the same length I have it now and it was so that I could start my transition like 1-2 years ago. then I went into a denial phase and pretended to be the average straight cis-guy again and cut it off. I wanted to cry after I got it cut. it only takes a little bit to get your hair long enough for more feminine hairstyles though.
This is sort of what I'm going for initially. My hairline recedes, so it needs to be something I can brush forward.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F41ffb6c15f8ca3156d66136823bb667a%2Ftumblr_mqodsxQ9MN1rf44eoo1_500.jpg&hash=249e60bea5fa94e50075396600d8524cdd02c105)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on August 23, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
Post by: Wynternight on August 23, 2014, 11:07:34 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 22, 2014, 10:39:04 PM
All these pics.. Look what you've done. Now I'm all vaclempt. Talk amongst yaselves. I'll give you a topic: Duran Duran is neither a duran nor a duran. Discuss!
You're vaclempt? I'm vaclempt!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 03:14:55 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 03:14:55 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
This is sort of what I'm going for initially. My hairline recedes, so it needs to be something I can brush forward.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F41ffb6c15f8ca3156d66136823bb667a%2Ftumblr_mqodsxQ9MN1rf44eoo1_500.jpg&hash=249e60bea5fa94e50075396600d8524cdd02c105)
I think this would look fantastic on you! it would really help you look more feminine and it wouldn't take much time to get that long.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 03:26:11 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 03:14:55 PMI hope! The only thing that concerns me is that a cut like that isn't really good for someone with a big nose, but I'll wear a beanie most of the time, anyway. It'll just be nice to have hair that I don't always have to keep hidden. Stupid DHT.
I think this would look fantastic on you! it would really help you look more feminine and it wouldn't take much time to get that long.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
This is the part where I ask for brutal honesty.....pick out the flaws.....
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Facy8uq.jpg&hash=4fe0f8abb9243e00326406c5abd83b5c1816d489)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2w4dzbb.jpg&hash=35d47d1fe2eeb629693370d500a93f15fe36044c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2vcz6li.jpg&hash=6ff5045904b28f277a29038902f1c7776ffddcfc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2lnfi8o.jpg&hash=eb9d0040fded592add74131f932a102dc445a0ab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi6fhi1.jpg&hash=148aa5760c067fab10360e0b82dcc01239f619ce)
-Yet un-re-named.....
Mod edit: tried to fix image tags...failed, sorry.
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2Facy8uq.jpg&hash=4fe0f8abb9243e00326406c5abd83b5c1816d489)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2w4dzbb.jpg&hash=35d47d1fe2eeb629693370d500a93f15fe36044c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2vcz6li.jpg&hash=6ff5045904b28f277a29038902f1c7776ffddcfc)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2lnfi8o.jpg&hash=eb9d0040fded592add74131f932a102dc445a0ab)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fi6fhi1.jpg&hash=148aa5760c067fab10360e0b82dcc01239f619ce)
-Yet un-re-named.....
Mod edit: tried to fix image tags...failed, sorry.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 06:16:57 PM
Aus76 —
You'd be surprised the kind of results are possible when your features tend to be more dominantly masculine. One thing that's always important is to get yourself in some kind of shape and lose as much weight as you can. Once you're on HRT then you can start gaining it back and it'll all go where it's supposed to. Your hairline doesn't recede like mine does, so that's a huge plus, as you won't have to worry about that ever. The HRT does some amazing things, but it's only part of the journey. As your skin softens your pores will minimize, and muscle and fat will start to shift around. But ultimately, HRT is about your peace of mind. Passing is certainly an important goal, but it's not the reason for the season. Personally, I think you'll have satisfactory results, with or without makeup. I'm 33 and still haven't started, and I worry, as well. I've had some wonderful compliments here that are very encouraging, but a raw and unedited picture of me shows my age a little more, so I don't post those. I think there's one floating around, but that's it. Anyway, stay positive and don't fret. You're going to look great! :)
You'd be surprised the kind of results are possible when your features tend to be more dominantly masculine. One thing that's always important is to get yourself in some kind of shape and lose as much weight as you can. Once you're on HRT then you can start gaining it back and it'll all go where it's supposed to. Your hairline doesn't recede like mine does, so that's a huge plus, as you won't have to worry about that ever. The HRT does some amazing things, but it's only part of the journey. As your skin softens your pores will minimize, and muscle and fat will start to shift around. But ultimately, HRT is about your peace of mind. Passing is certainly an important goal, but it's not the reason for the season. Personally, I think you'll have satisfactory results, with or without makeup. I'm 33 and still haven't started, and I worry, as well. I've had some wonderful compliments here that are very encouraging, but a raw and unedited picture of me shows my age a little more, so I don't post those. I think there's one floating around, but that's it. Anyway, stay positive and don't fret. You're going to look great! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:41:17 PM
Distinctly masculine features! GASP. :)
Thank you though for finishing it with the compliment. :)
Thank you though for finishing it with the compliment. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 06:43:40 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:41:17 PMOh pfft.. want to see one of those unedited pics of me? That should definitely kick things up a notch!
Distinctly masculine features! GASP. :)
Thank you though for finishing it with the compliment. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:56:39 PM
I am well aware that I look very MAN right now. But I also think that I've got potential.
Your face seems very feminine from your avatar. I'd love to see where you've come from!
Your face seems very feminine from your avatar. I'd love to see where you've come from!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:05:05 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 06:56:39 PMI'm rather notorious for not filtering my words so I end up saying things that don't come out right, but I'm immensely encouraging (at least I think so). I certainly mean well. Don't hate me! :embarrassed:
I am well aware that I look very MAN right now. But I also think that I've got potential.
Your face seems very feminine from your avatar. I'd love to see where you've come from!
Here's a pic of me from last year, unshaven and not looking terribly happy:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/p96nfutmoue9skd/facehairgross.jpg?dl=0
If your eye suddenly hurts, that was my nose beaming out from the photo.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:26:09 PM
No offense taken, I asked for brutality.
Your man pic is not bad at all. Very andro save for the beard.
Your man pic is not bad at all. Very andro save for the beard.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
I just put up a new avatar pic. The old one was a little too dark and this one you can see my face better. I'm 26, no HRT yet. I shaved, put make-up on, and threw on a wig as well. I have to admit, my skin is pretty flawless. I went on Accutane a couple years ago. It was rough, but worth it IMO. I still have most of my hair and will add that it is the exact same color as the wig. I have a little bit of thinning, but with hrt I'm not too concerned. If it stops here and, god forbid, thickens back up a bit I'll be in good shape. My natural hairline has receded a bit, but not too much and it's just a itsy bit higher than that wig line. Judge me!!! Be honest. I'm not sure if I want to start HRT or not and I'm trying to gauge whether I have any chance. I'm trying to decide within the next month and a half or so. Do I look like I could pass, from the neck up at least?
Sooner or later I'll post a full body. I'm like 160lbs right now. I'm dropping to 130 over the next month or two before HRT. I'll post when I'm emaciated. I have a long way to go. I'm estimating 3 years before I'm near fully transitioned. If I could figure out how to up-load a pic aside from an avatar then I'd post a pic with my natural hair. For what it's worth; I'm going to have FFS and a hair transplant to thicken everything back up. Then I'm growing it and getting it styled. I'm hoping to have the same hair then, just being real hair, or I'll just keep a medium length page-boy cut (still getting a hair transplant) and occasionally go with a wig...
Aus76, I think you may very well have some potential. You don't look too tall, not that being tall is necessarily a negative, and you may find that you have a small frame once you drop a little bit of weight (not that you're massive) and go on HRT. It also looks like you have enough hair to work with, or you could, and seem to have enough for a hair transplant if you feel it necessarily. You also aren't made of pure muscle like myself and that should go a long way in terms of body softening. Plus, your face doesn't look THAT masculine.
Sooner or later I'll post a full body. I'm like 160lbs right now. I'm dropping to 130 over the next month or two before HRT. I'll post when I'm emaciated. I have a long way to go. I'm estimating 3 years before I'm near fully transitioned. If I could figure out how to up-load a pic aside from an avatar then I'd post a pic with my natural hair. For what it's worth; I'm going to have FFS and a hair transplant to thicken everything back up. Then I'm growing it and getting it styled. I'm hoping to have the same hair then, just being real hair, or I'll just keep a medium length page-boy cut (still getting a hair transplant) and occasionally go with a wig...
Aus76, I think you may very well have some potential. You don't look too tall, not that being tall is necessarily a negative, and you may find that you have a small frame once you drop a little bit of weight (not that you're massive) and go on HRT. It also looks like you have enough hair to work with, or you could, and seem to have enough for a hair transplant if you feel it necessarily. You also aren't made of pure muscle like myself and that should go a long way in terms of body softening. Plus, your face doesn't look THAT masculine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:35:54 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:26:09 PMWell crap... I guess it's time to break out the secret files. Check your messages. This one stays off the books!
No offense taken, I asked for brutality.
Your man pic is not bad at all. Very andro save for the beard.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 07:53:22 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
Plus, your face doesn't look THAT masculine.
Yeah, that definitely wasn't what I was trying to say. Just making a general remark, because I understand self-consciousness quite well. We all need reassurance. I just apparently have a dodgy way of going about it. :/
Quote
Aus76, I think you may very well have some potential. You don't look too tall, not that being tall is necessarily a negative, and you may find that you have a small frame once you drop a little bit of weight (not that you're massive) and go on HRT. It also looks like you have enough hair to work with, or you could, and seem to have enough for a hair transplant if you feel it necessarily. You also aren't made of pure muscle like myself and that should go a long way in terms of body softening.
Hell, I don't even think a transplant is necessary. Aus76 is primed for results. I have height working against me, and a receding hairline. And despite what anyone says, my face is just weird. The pics I post here are highly edited.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:56:14 PM
The Question--no question, you look female.
As far as my hair goes, it's still generally there. I voluntarily shaved it bald until a few days ago.
I am hoping to go on HRT simultaneous with gastric bypass, so hopefully...the fat will go to the right spots and I'll drop about 120. I'm about 265-270 now. Want to get to 150 or lower.
I know many say lose the weight first but I think that given the surgery and mones, it'll be cool. Whattaya think?
As far as my hair goes, it's still generally there. I voluntarily shaved it bald until a few days ago.
I am hoping to go on HRT simultaneous with gastric bypass, so hopefully...the fat will go to the right spots and I'll drop about 120. I'm about 265-270 now. Want to get to 150 or lower.
I know many say lose the weight first but I think that given the surgery and mones, it'll be cool. Whattaya think?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:57:50 PM
I didn't take offense, really! I was just teasing about the wording. I think my face is very....play-dough. But I was not offended at all.
I got that picture via e-mail.....well....you've come a long way. Good work!
I got that picture via e-mail.....well....you've come a long way. Good work!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:58:32 PM
sororcaeli, that wasn't what I was implying. I was more making reference to Aus76 putting man in capitals. As for you... I think you have good potential. I really don't see anything overly masculine going on with your face or anything and it looks like you have a small frame based on that photo, and that goes a long way. I also have height going against me, probably more than yourself. I'm the tiniest bit under 6'0"... so basically 6'0".
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:01:52 PM
It all comes down to what you're comfortable with. Losing weight isn't so much about the weight loss itself, but because the fat doesn't actually move. New fat cells grow in their appropriate locations, so after losing current weight you intentionally gain it back so it pops up where it's supposed to be. My step-sister had a lap band and the fat just melted off of her. I think she was well over 300 lbs at first. Good luck with that and everything else! *cheers*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:03:18 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:03:18 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 07:57:50 PMI'm glad you didn't, but I'm still hard on myself. I have Asperger's and I'm still working on my communication skills. And thanks!
I didn't take offense, really! I was just teasing about the wording. I think my face is very....play-dough. But I was not offended at all.
I got that picture via e-mail.....well....you've come a long way. Good work!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Indecision on August 23, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
Post by: Indecision on August 23, 2014, 08:04:47 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:33:48 PM
I just put up a new avatar pic. The old one was a little too dark and this one you can see my face better. I'm 26, no HRT yet. I shaved, put make-up on, and threw on a wig as well. I have to admit, my skin is pretty flawless. I went on Accutane a couple years ago. It was rough, but worth it IMO. I still have most of my hair and will add that it is the exact same color as the wig. I have a little bit of thinning, but with hrt I'm not too concerned. If it stops here and, god forbid, thickens back up a bit I'll be in good shape. My natural hairline has receded a bit, but not too much and it's just a itsy bit higher than that wig line. Judge me!!! Be honest. I'm not sure if I want to start HRT or not and I'm trying to gauge whether I have any chance. I'm trying to decide within the next month and a half or so. Do I look like I could pass, from the neck up at least?
Any chance?!?! You look great already, I wish I had your starting point. Only a little (or totally..) jealous of your skin and your makeup looks really nicely done too. Ugh, want to swap?
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
This is the part where I ask for brutal honesty.....pick out the flaws.....
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
I think things will work well for you. Hairline looks good to go, your cheek/jaw is well rounded and doesn't scream masculine. There's a nice natural arch to your eyebrows. Your skin looks a little irritated in the last few pics around the chin so make sure you take good care of it, and HRT apparently helps a lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 07:58:32 PMThanks, TheQuestion. Trust me, there's worse photos available. And yeah, I do have a smaller frame, and I'm pretty sure it's due to being XXY, although I have no proof of that. I'm 5'11", but I hear HRT makes you shrink an inch. Woo, what a difference! :P
sororcaeli, that wasn't what I was implying. I was more making reference to Aus76 putting man in capitals. As for you... I think you have good potential. I really don't see anything overly masculine going on with your face or anything and it looks like you have a small frame based on that photo, and that goes a long way. I also have height going against me, probably more than yourself. I'm the tiniest bit under 6'0"... so basically 6'0".
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 08:09:45 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 08:04:57 PM
Thanks, TheQuestion. Trust me, there's worse photos available. And yeah, I do have a smaller frame, and I'm pretty sure it's due to being XXY, although I have no proof of that. I'm 5'11", but I hear HRT makes you shrink an inch. Woo, what a difference! :P
I don't really have TOO much of an issue with my height, but I have a small-medium frame and big hands... so I'll take the inch if it happens. Don't forget, there's basically an unwritten rule that to be a female model you have to be between 5'9"-6'1". Also, if you are XXY then you should have aided HRT results.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:16:24 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 23, 2014, 08:09:45 PMThe stuff that seems like indicators to me is that I'm constantly assumed to be way younger than 33, long and skinny limbs, the digit ratio thing as my index and ring fingers are the same length, very weak facial hair, maybe a few lone chest hairs, and everything else is vellus hair. Oh, and I apparently have hips: https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg?dl=0
I don't really have TOO much of an issue with my height, but I have a small-medium frame and big hands... so I'll take the inch if it happens. Don't forget, there's basically an unwritten rule that to be a female model you have to be between 5'9"-6'1". Also, if you are XXY then you should have aided HRT results.
And I think it also can cause developmental disorders like Asperger's as well as cause hypersensitivity/emotionality. All of my androgen seemed to make its home on my head since I have a repulsive receding hairline. I'm really hoping HRT can bring some of that back, but I'm not holding my breath.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Blue Senpai on August 23, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
Post by: Blue Senpai on August 23, 2014, 08:20:26 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 07:58:17 AM
This is sort of what I'm going for initially. My hairline recedes, so it needs to be something I can brush forward.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F31.media.tumblr.com%2F41ffb6c15f8ca3156d66136823bb667a%2Ftumblr_mqodsxQ9MN1rf44eoo1_500.jpg&hash=249e60bea5fa94e50075396600d8524cdd02c105)
The face registers as female for me, even better if you add some makeup. Any chance you can let your hair grow longer?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:32:40 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 08:32:40 PM
Marcellow — that picture isn't of me. I just like her hair and it seems like something I might be able to pull off. And if HRT helps with growing in any receded hairline then that will help a lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 09:28:53 PM
TheQuestion — I realised I've completely skipped your original post, and you deserve some commentary from me since you gave yours. From what I see there's absolutely no reason at all to worry about passing. You look wonderful! I understand that you're wearing a wig, but I only knew that after reading your post. Looks like real hair to me. I'm eager to see more pics. Seeing everyone's on here and other threads is very inspiring and makes me smile. :)
The look I'm going for is much less feminine, but I still don't want to come across as androgynous; at least not too much. I'd definitely like to avoid any gender confusion while still dressing in goth-ish attire. I made a post in the fashion forum titled "Dark Fashion" to give you an idea of what I like. The clothing style itself doesn't scream feminine, but it's far more than what I wear now (which I wouldn't even call boyish, just casual). I really enjoy wearing my beanie so I'm sure I'll continue to, but it will be nice to be able to take it off when it gets too hot and not have an ugly, clocking mess. I haven't had long hair since I was 18. I really hope it doesn't come in too thin. Thankfully, I'm not balding. I'll probably keep the shorter style for a little while and then just let it grow once HRT begins to stimulate any other hair follicles that might be lying dormant.
This past month my dysphoria has been in high gear, but it's finally starting to fade, and I have all of you to thank for helping with that. I really hope my words are equally helpful despite my occasional bad choice of phrasing. I've not been in this forum very long, but I've already started to feel at home. Anyway, enough of my rambling! I now must return to watching Doctor Who! (I downloaded it.. shhh)
The look I'm going for is much less feminine, but I still don't want to come across as androgynous; at least not too much. I'd definitely like to avoid any gender confusion while still dressing in goth-ish attire. I made a post in the fashion forum titled "Dark Fashion" to give you an idea of what I like. The clothing style itself doesn't scream feminine, but it's far more than what I wear now (which I wouldn't even call boyish, just casual). I really enjoy wearing my beanie so I'm sure I'll continue to, but it will be nice to be able to take it off when it gets too hot and not have an ugly, clocking mess. I haven't had long hair since I was 18. I really hope it doesn't come in too thin. Thankfully, I'm not balding. I'll probably keep the shorter style for a little while and then just let it grow once HRT begins to stimulate any other hair follicles that might be lying dormant.
This past month my dysphoria has been in high gear, but it's finally starting to fade, and I have all of you to thank for helping with that. I really hope my words are equally helpful despite my occasional bad choice of phrasing. I've not been in this forum very long, but I've already started to feel at home. Anyway, enough of my rambling! I now must return to watching Doctor Who! (I downloaded it.. shhh)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 09:36:36 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 09:36:36 PM
sororcaeli i'd get facial id piercing too. it would look great with that hair style. I want to get some too
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 09:57:09 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 09:57:09 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 09:36:36 PMI was actually considering getting an eyebrow piercing. I even need my ears pierced. I know, ridiculous, isn't it? If my nose was smaller I'd get that done, as well. My main thing right now is getting more ink done. I only have one tattoo on my right arm, just the words "QUESTION EVERYTHING", and it was kind of a shoddy job. Needs retouching.
sororcaeli i'd get facial id piercing too. it would look great with that hair style. I want to get some too
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 10:13:44 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 10:13:44 PM
I want my eye brows pierced as well. and I don't have a single piecing yet so it is not that ridiculous. us girls have a lot we have to pay for. I have a really boyish tattoo on my chest that I need to get covered up. and its decent sized so its gonna be kinda expensive.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
Post by: Illuminess on August 23, 2014, 10:26:16 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on August 23, 2014, 10:13:44 PMYikes. I hear that chest tattoos are really painful. When I got the one on my arm it felt like a thousand ant stings initially, then it was just numb. I grimaced a bit, but it wasn't that bad. I'm not a fan of pain, but for some reason I have this illogical desire for more! The next things I'm getting is the alchemical symbol for Mercury below my left wrist, and the Thelemic unicursal hexagram below my right wrist. I eventually want to get some kind of mandala, as well.
I have a really boyish tattoo on my chest that I need to get covered up. and its decent sized so its gonna be kinda expensive.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 24, 2014, 03:01:06 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 24, 2014, 03:01:06 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 12:14:03 AM
Haha, no, I'm not upset. I'm just inspired and overwhelmed by everyone's amazing transformations. :) And thank you for the compliment!
I know right, I wish I was as thin as you, I been on a really healthy diet, and Im down to about 239 from 260, You have a feminine face to die for. I am halfway in style, like I like rocker kinda look and I have very feminine clothes and I am a sucker for pretty shoes, but I cant wait to get to or below 200, I can live with that bc of the way im built I will be able to start hrt there. And I read one of your other post about hair loss, Im in the same boat at 30, I started using MiN home maintenece products and there hair loss spray about 3 months ago, and it works! it takes time but my hair is slowly getting thicker on top and growing back. Its expensive but it works. I look forward to seeing how beautiful you will be when you finish transition.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 24, 2014, 07:15:11 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 24, 2014, 07:15:11 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 23, 2014, 10:26:16 PMthe chest wasn't nearly bad as the top of the shoulder or on the arm by the arm pit. omg when my tattoo was creeping towards the arm pit it stung so bad.
Yikes. I hear that chest tattoos are really painful. When I got the one on my arm it felt like a thousand ant stings initially, then it was just numb. I grimaced a bit, but it wasn't that bad. I'm not a fan of pain, but for some reason I have this illogical desire for more! The next things I'm getting is the alchemical symbol for Mercury below my left wrist, and the Thelemic unicursal hexagram below my right wrist. I eventually want to get some kind of mandala, as well.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Echoes of Elaina on August 24, 2014, 07:36:53 AM
Post by: Echoes of Elaina on August 24, 2014, 07:36:53 AM
Hi hi, I mostly lurk 'round these parts :embarrassed:. There are so many cuties in this thread! Carla @.@!
llerret, I think that when people say you "don't look like other women," they literally just mean that you have a unique and exotic look, and not that you "don't look like a woman," if you catch the distinction. You're gorgeous, just gorgeous.
I'm very nervous but I'd love to get some opinions on these that don't come from very close friends. I shared the first one here with two of my pals as a sort of "coming out" (that went much better than I anticipated!) and they were both super sweet but, y'know, one's been mah pal for a decade and the other is a known philanderer (:laugh:) so he's liable to tell me anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHeaV1P.jpg&hash=7b595df732abee6d30a13f746b2ea01714b7982d) :angel: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F25Cf3q8.jpg&hash=4214d5fa0634481ba8e82f6ff6418de66d0d06e5)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOqXEUb3.jpg&hash=4a3fbc01ccad6d981e2c06a01080da45e7f3bb88)
I'm 28, pre everything and wearing a silly hair hat without makeup. Specific male-y weak points besides the utterly ridiculous eyebrows and that schnoz of mine? ??? Anything that actually works? Is this an OK starting point? Brutality please :'(.
llerret, I think that when people say you "don't look like other women," they literally just mean that you have a unique and exotic look, and not that you "don't look like a woman," if you catch the distinction. You're gorgeous, just gorgeous.
I'm very nervous but I'd love to get some opinions on these that don't come from very close friends. I shared the first one here with two of my pals as a sort of "coming out" (that went much better than I anticipated!) and they were both super sweet but, y'know, one's been mah pal for a decade and the other is a known philanderer (:laugh:) so he's liable to tell me anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHeaV1P.jpg&hash=7b595df732abee6d30a13f746b2ea01714b7982d) :angel: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F25Cf3q8.jpg&hash=4214d5fa0634481ba8e82f6ff6418de66d0d06e5)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOqXEUb3.jpg&hash=4a3fbc01ccad6d981e2c06a01080da45e7f3bb88)
I'm 28, pre everything and wearing a silly hair hat without makeup. Specific male-y weak points besides the utterly ridiculous eyebrows and that schnoz of mine? ??? Anything that actually works? Is this an OK starting point? Brutality please :'(.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 24, 2014, 07:41:29 AM
Post by: Aus76 on August 24, 2014, 07:41:29 AM
Echoes, you have nothing to worry about as far as I'm concerned. Very pretty. You call attention to your nose, but I honestly don't think it's a giveaway that you aren't genetically female. If you are planning on starting HRT you'll have excellent results.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 24, 2014, 07:58:31 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 24, 2014, 07:58:31 AM
Quote from: Echoes of Elaina on August 24, 2014, 07:36:53 AMhonestly this is a great starting point. with some make up and some work on the eyebrows I think you could pass. I also think that you are well on you're way to becoming a beautiful girl.
Hi hi, I mostly lurk 'round these parts :embarrassed:. There are so many cuties in this thread! Carla @.@!
llerret, I think that when people say you "don't look like other women," they literally just mean that you have a unique and exotic look, and not that you "don't look like a woman," if you catch the distinction. You're gorgeous, just gorgeous.
I'm very nervous but I'd love to get some opinions on these that don't come from very close friends. I shared the first one here with two of my pals as a sort of "coming out" (that went much better than I anticipated!) and they were both super sweet but, y'know, one's been mah pal for a decade and the other is a known philanderer (:laugh:) so he's liable to tell me anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FvHeaV1P.jpg&hash=7b595df732abee6d30a13f746b2ea01714b7982d) :angel: (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F25Cf3q8.jpg&hash=4214d5fa0634481ba8e82f6ff6418de66d0d06e5)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOqXEUb3.jpg&hash=4a3fbc01ccad6d981e2c06a01080da45e7f3bb88)
I'm 28, pre everything and wearing a silly hair hat without makeup. Specific male-y weak points besides the utterly ridiculous eyebrows and that schnoz of mine? ??? Anything that actually works? Is this an OK starting point? Brutality please :'(.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Eris on August 24, 2014, 08:14:07 AM
Post by: Eris on August 24, 2014, 08:14:07 AM
I would definitely gender you as female in the first picture. I don't see your nose as being particularly indicative of masculinity.
You've certainly made an excellent start.
Something about the latter two images gives me pause though. It might be that your eyebrows were initially concealed by the hair in the first image. You can get those shaped though so it's not too big a worry.
You've certainly made an excellent start.
Something about the latter two images gives me pause though. It might be that your eyebrows were initially concealed by the hair in the first image. You can get those shaped though so it's not too big a worry.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
Post by: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I got some really nice comments on the first pictures that I posted 2 days ago but the reality is that even tough I almost pass when I'm styled I still see a boy in the mirror when I wake up and I'm not wearing make up, accessories or my clip in extensions. It's so frustrating to clean up your face and be confronted by the real you which doesn't look like you would want it to :-(
So, that's me. A styled pic again just for comparison:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-OdwwaJG1OrU%2FU_oAxTY_nTI%2FAAAAAAAAABI%2F7bi1EGk3nsE%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225254.jpg&hash=1bccbbedb70cf926c8ac607caa9b3c3962e1c25d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-rvxATr4XSfw%2FU_oAv-pHUiI%2FAAAAAAAAAA4%2FiFcS4QkmKaA%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225209.jpg&hash=6f0a547d67583f4ca0b62c7e3e1adf86f5c46487)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-sxzBP6p0qdo%2FU_oAwiWc-VI%2FAAAAAAAAAA8%2FDe4Ac99jr1w%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225144.jpg&hash=2975d71c1a448018134d7a75d85b2150ee8fa3ad)
So, that's me. A styled pic again just for comparison:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-OdwwaJG1OrU%2FU_oAxTY_nTI%2FAAAAAAAAABI%2F7bi1EGk3nsE%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225254.jpg&hash=1bccbbedb70cf926c8ac607caa9b3c3962e1c25d)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ashlotte on August 24, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
Post by: Ashlotte on August 24, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I got some really nice comments on the first pictures that I posted 2 days ago but the reality is that even tough I almost pass when I'm styled I still see a boy in the mirror when I wake up and I'm not wearing make up, accessories or my clip in extensions. It's so frustrating to clean up your face and be confronted by the real you which doesn't look like you would want it to :-(
So, that's me. A styled pic again just for comparison:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F3.bp.blogspot.com%2F-vyVZclXOOGE%2FU_c_yfjX28I%2FAAAAAAAAAAY%2FUH6bjlrYqi0%2Fs1600%2FIMG-20140729-WA0000.jpg&hash=a75219843f0249a975c795f316cea4e4aed78b33)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-OdwwaJG1OrU%2FU_oAxTY_nTI%2FAAAAAAAAABI%2F7bi1EGk3nsE%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225254.jpg&hash=1bccbbedb70cf926c8ac607caa9b3c3962e1c25d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F1.bp.blogspot.com%2F-rvxATr4XSfw%2FU_oAv-pHUiI%2FAAAAAAAAAA4%2FiFcS4QkmKaA%2Fs1600%2F20140624_225209.jpg&hash=6f0a547d67583f4ca0b62c7e3e1adf86f5c46487)
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Honestly, all I could see you needing surgery-wise is a trachea shave, maybe a jawline reduction, and you might want to get a brow lift. Keep growing your hair. I think you would probably pass if you had longer hair in your last 3 pics even without ffs.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 11:47:58 AM
Post by: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 11:47:58 AM
Quote from: Ashlotte on August 24, 2014, 10:38:53 AM
Honestly, all I could see you needing surgery-wise is a trachea shave, maybe a jawline reduction, and you might want to get a brow lift. Keep growing your hair. I think you would probably pass if you had longer hair in your last 3 pics even without ffs.
I'm actually getting FFS end of November. I will have a trachea shave, jaw and ching reduction and reshaping, cheek implants, liplift, brow bossing will be shaved down and the hairline will be advanced. Can't wait :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 24, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 24, 2014, 02:08:00 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 11:47:58 AM
I'm actually getting FFS end of November. I will have a trachea shave, jaw and ching reduction and reshaping, cheek implants, liplift, brow bossing will be shaved down and the hairline will be advanced. Can't wait :-)
You dont really need cheek implants...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 24, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 24, 2014, 04:22:44 PM
Echoes, I've said this to people before and it is true. There is often differences in nose construction/size when it comes to the varying races and ethnic groups. I'm not sure what you are, but in conjunction to your darker skin tone, your nose isn't as big of a gender marker as you think. I'm not saying that darker skinned people have big ugly noses or anything, not at all. I wish I was darker. I'm actually pretty self-conscious about my skin being near glow-in-the-dark pale. However, Caucasian's normally have smaller, thinner noses. Of course this doesn't always apply. Your nose isn't too bad at all in my opinion. For example, take your nose and put it on me and that'd be a dead give away, but on you it looks perfectly fine IMO... and I think it's a nice nose.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 06:55:01 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 06:55:01 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PMAus76, believe it or not since your hair isn't completely gone on top yet, and, you still have your hairline with the right combination of hrt meds it's possible, I give you a 70% chance, for you to get some or all of your hair back provided you start hrt soon. You already have soft facial proportions for hrt to work with too. Nothing guaranteed but it is very possible. I've seen some amazing transformations. While your final result is hard to pick I think you'll do very well indeed.
This is the part where I ask for brutal honesty.....pick out the flaws.....
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
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-Yet un-re-named.....
Mod edit: tried to fix image tags...failed, sorry.
@The Question: Your very pretty already with great skin. Hrt will enhance your looks and as stated above, as long as you haven't fully lost your hair there's a good possibility hrt will bring most to all of it back. As stated, you have great skin also -always a plus.
As for me I'm a scarred up old hag, lol! :icon_eek:
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 24, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 24, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
Quote from: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 06:55:01 PM
@The Question: Your very pretty already with great skin. Hrt will enhance your looks and as stated above, as long as you haven't fully lost your hair there's a good possibility hrt will bring most to all of it back. As stated, you have great skin also -always a plus.
As for me I'm a scarred up old hag, lol! :icon_eek:
Ali :icon_flower:[/font][/size][/color]
Thanks Ali. I still have a ton of hair, but it definitely has thinned a good bit over the last 4 years and my hairline has crept up a little at the temples, not too much though. I could probably get away with bangs, but I want a scalp advancement. I'm gonna get FFS anyway, so I'll be having it done then as well. I don't have any grays yet or anything either, it's the same color as the wig... as if I won't be getting it colored regardless. If you look at the left side of my head, just above the ear you can see my actual hair color... or maybe you can't since it's the same color as the wig. I don't know. I think that I have a sold chance of saving my hair and having a full head. My hair is tremendously wavy/curly though and I've never had it all that long and that worries me. They aren't tight curls, but it almost feels like I'm incapable of having long hair. I guess with time, hair straightening and a hair stylist I could have long hair. At least I hope...
And you don't look like a scarred up, old hag to me. Oh, and I noticed your sig. I'm not too into Star Trek (respect the series thought), but I'm totally obsessed with Star Wars. Can't wait for the new flick. I think it was a great choice to return the original cast. Wow... did that ever get off topic.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on August 24, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Post by: Sarah leah on August 24, 2014, 08:23:37 PM
Hello everyone, I was child free today and had a few hours to be myself. I am early thirties now and very overweight, 5 foot 10 almost 5.11. I have lost 20kgs (44.9lbs) in the last 3months, so it has been slow going. I plan to drop another 17-20kgs (37-44lbs) by xmas this year then go on HRT.
Anyway -not- on HRT yet and I used eyeliner and foundation powder in these two photos with my natural hair, which was a number 2 buzz cut 16 weeks ago as I had a breakdown and was going to try to act like a guy. But I can not do it anymore so it is time to grow it out. I also have not had laser/electro yet as the person who was going to do it had a heart attack a month ago.
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In these ones I put on a wig, no eyeliner and only lip gloss and power foundation. I am extremely overweight and shy so I have struggled to posts these. I know I am not pretty and I look like a ugly old guy in a dress, however if I drop more weight do you think things will fall into place better before I go ahead with HRT.
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I found these boots in "Big W in Adelaide" when I was up there last week, they fit fine except the calves are HUGE!!! I could fit another set of legs in them :)
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Anyway -not- on HRT yet and I used eyeliner and foundation powder in these two photos with my natural hair, which was a number 2 buzz cut 16 weeks ago as I had a breakdown and was going to try to act like a guy. But I can not do it anymore so it is time to grow it out. I also have not had laser/electro yet as the person who was going to do it had a heart attack a month ago.
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In these ones I put on a wig, no eyeliner and only lip gloss and power foundation. I am extremely overweight and shy so I have struggled to posts these. I know I am not pretty and I look like a ugly old guy in a dress, however if I drop more weight do you think things will fall into place better before I go ahead with HRT.
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I found these boots in "Big W in Adelaide" when I was up there last week, they fit fine except the calves are HUGE!!! I could fit another set of legs in them :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fpb1bl5xgh%2FSANY0035.jpg&hash=7edcc174c74172aa4f732ffdf7cde0d348e184e0) (http://postimage.org/)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 08:34:47 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 08:34:47 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 24, 2014, 07:22:52 PMThanks. That is my real hair. You wouldn't know it by looking but I had a feminine hair loss pattern on the top left side of my head 8 months ago prior to hrt. I had two thinning areas, that now are coming back in and thickening nicely.
Thanks Ali. I still have a ton of hair, but it definitely has thinned a good bit over the last 4 years and my hairline has crept up a little at the temples, not too much though. I could probably get away with bangs, but I want a scalp advancement. I'm gonna get FFS anyway, so I'll be having it done then as well. I don't have any grays yet or anything either, it's the same color as the wig... as if I won't be getting it colored regardless. If you look at the left side of my head, just above the ear you can see my actual hair color... or maybe you can't since it's the same color as the wig. I don't know. I think that I have a sold chance of saving my hair and having a full head. My hair is tremendously wavy/curly though and I've never had it all that long and that worries me. They aren't tight curls, but it almost feels like I'm incapable of having long hair. I guess with time, hair straightening and a hair stylist I could have long hair. At least I hope...
And you don't look like a scarred up, old hag to me. Oh, and I noticed your sig. I'm not too into Star Trek (respect the series thought), but I'm totally obsessed with Star Wars. Can't wait for the new flick. I think it was a great choice to return the original cast. Wow... did that ever get off topic.
Oh, to post a photo you'll need a photo storage service like imjur (it's free). Once you have uploaded your photos there, click the little picture icon just below the "B" on the font controls. You'll see something like this appear in or below your text: [][/] (//), then, on your photo site you want the Direct Link to your photo. On imjur it's the second one from the top. Copy it, then paste it in between the two ]['s above. That's all there is to it. Your photo will appear in your post!
Again thanks for the compliment. I do have facial scars from an aircraft accident I survived in 1991. My hair partially hides the. I'm pretty self concious over them. All my friends tell me I'm worried over nothing.
Oh, and I am the Trekie Techie Jedi Girl! I can't wait for the new Star Wars either! I'm counting the days............
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
Quote from: Sarah leah on August 24, 2014, 08:23:37 PMYou have a very soft pretty face, gorgeous eyes, and what looks like a thick head of your natural hair. I think your pretty now. You'll just get prettier on hrt!
Hello everyone, I was child free today and had a few hours to be myself. I am early thirties now and very overweight, 5 foot 10 almost 5.11. I have lost 20kgs (44.9lbs) in the last 3months, so it has been slow going. I plan to drop another 17-20kgs (37-44lbs) by xmas this year then go on HRT.
Anyway -not- on HRT yet and I used eyeliner and foundation powder in these two photos with my natural hair, which was a number 2 buzz cut 16 weeks ago as I had a breakdown and was going to try to act like a guy. But I can not do it anymore so it is time to grow it out. I also have not had laser/electro yet as the person who was going to do it had a heart attack a month ago.
In these ones I put on a wig, no eyeliner and only lip gloss and power foundation. I am extremely overweight and shy so I have struggled to posts these. I know I am not pretty and I look like a ugly old guy in a dress, however if I drop more weight do you think things will fall into place better before I go ahead with HRT.
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Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on August 25, 2014, 12:31:11 AM
Post by: Mickie on August 25, 2014, 12:31:11 AM
So I tried makeup for the first time...
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on August 25, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on August 25, 2014, 09:13:37 AM
Quote from: Mickie on August 25, 2014, 12:31:11 AM
So I tried makeup for the first time...
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You look cute with make up! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 25, 2014, 10:39:14 AM
Post by: Shantel on August 25, 2014, 10:39:14 AM
Quote from: Mickie on August 25, 2014, 12:31:11 AM
So I tried makeup for the first time...
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Pretty eyes Mickie, maybe trim those bushy eyebrows, best to have it done professionally into a female mode then it will be easy to keep up and add a lot of pizzaz to an already great looking face!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 10:39:55 AM
Thank you Allyda. I mentioned this before, but I had voluntarily shaved my head up until a few days back.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 25, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 25, 2014, 12:00:55 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
This is the part where I ask for brutal honesty.....pick out the flaws.....
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
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-Yet un-re-named.....
Mod edit: tried to fix image tags...failed, sorry.
Well, I cant be totally precise, but Your features do resemble mine preHRT very very much, except You have even softer features and I had more hair...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 01:17:30 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 01:17:30 PM
Emily, I see that (snooping) on your profile you label andro..... So are you attempting to go further or just stopping at "midpoint"?
I ask because your comment made me curious to see what you look like, and I only have your avatar to go on right now. But still very nice!
I ask because your comment made me curious to see what you look like, and I only have your avatar to go on right now. But still very nice!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 25, 2014, 01:37:32 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 25, 2014, 01:37:32 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 23, 2014, 05:58:21 PM
This is the part where I ask for brutal honesty.....pick out the flaws.....
30, mtf, Pre-HRT, last 3 shots wearing wig (or I have magical hair-growing ability...you decide) PS: Sorry for sideways pics.
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-Yet un-re-named.....
Mod edit: tried to fix image tags...failed, sorry.
You might want to lose a little bit of weight prior to starting HRT, then I hope you won't use that wig to go out or full time after your start, because it looks like a wig for halloween, for your hair coming back I'm not really familiar with the meds neither because i'm just starting and I don't need to take those. You might want to start buying clothes and make up for when you start full time, especially make up so that you can get good at it... Is the redness caused my laser hair removal? You can start that too prior to HRT, since it takes a long time to get rid of facial hair. I can see your face is very soft though that's a good point on your favor. Good luck!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on August 25, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on August 25, 2014, 01:41:05 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I got some really nice comments on the first pictures that I posted 2 days ago but the reality is that even tough I almost pass when I'm styled I still see a boy in the mirror when I wake up and I'm not wearing make up, accessories or my clip in extensions. It's so frustrating to clean up your face and be confronted by the real you which doesn't look like you would want it to :-(
So, that's me. A styled pic again just for comparison:
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Girl you beautiful <3 I'm sorry for that, I feel yah though I hate getting rid of all my stuff eveytime because I can't be full time yet, I hope you will be bale to be yourself all the time very soon and Good luck
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
Wow, well you certainly fit the bill of andro but I wouldn't think twice if you presented female. I can see what you mean about similar looks. My Austrian ancestry has some distinct features, I think.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 03:10:34 PM
Post by: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 03:10:34 PM
Also, how tall are you? I am 5'11
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on August 25, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
Post by: Sammy on August 25, 2014, 03:30:25 PM
:-\
Yup, I was quite surprised to notice that resemblance too. Maybe we share some sort of trans-gene :). And I am 5'9, but it used to be somewhere around 5'10 in my twenties.
Quote from: Aus76 on August 25, 2014, 03:09:13 PM
I can see what you mean about similar looks. My Austrian ancestry has some distinct features, I think.
Yup, I was quite surprised to notice that resemblance too. Maybe we share some sort of trans-gene :). And I am 5'9, but it used to be somewhere around 5'10 in my twenties.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 25, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 25, 2014, 05:45:34 PM
Quote from: carlaalves on August 24, 2014, 10:20:22 AM
I got some really nice comments on the first pictures that I posted 2 days ago but the reality is that even tough I almost pass when I'm styled I still see a boy in the mirror when I wake up and I'm not wearing make up, accessories or my clip in extensions. It's so frustrating to clean up your face and be confronted by the real you which doesn't look like you would want it to :-(
So, that's me. A styled pic again just for comparison:
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I know how you feel--often, when I wipe the makeup covering up my beard shadow, I feel sad because I see the most obvious evidence of my male-ness again.
But you're a really beautiful woman in the photos when you present as one, and you are a woman even when you take off the makeup. Always remember that. If you are a woman, then that is the real you. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shodan on August 25, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
Post by: Shodan on August 25, 2014, 05:57:43 PM
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Okay. Not really a serious post, but here I am. No makeup or anything. Just a ferret.
Okay. Not really a serious post, but here I am. No makeup or anything. Just a ferret.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 25, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on August 25, 2014, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: Mikaela_ on August 22, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
One image is a bit blurry..., but I decided to try to do makeup for my first time, but had limited stuff. I could probably trim my fuzzy brows but im pre HRT, you think with some hrt i could pass?
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You're looking pretty good so far, Mikaela! I think you are close to passing as is. With HRT, there's little question to me that you'd pass even better, but you definitely have some great feminine features already.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on August 25, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
Post by: Sarah leah on August 25, 2014, 06:54:57 PM
Quote from: Allyda on August 24, 2014, 08:57:35 PM
You have a very soft pretty face, gorgeous eyes, and what looks like a thick head of your natural hair. I think your pretty now. You'll just get prettier on hrt!
Ali :icon_flower:
Thank you for the kind words you are very sweet.
Although I kind of regret posting them now as I looked at them and all I see is a ugly old guy. Which is upsetting, but I kind of need to start looking at my options and what I can do. The issue for me is I see very manly features and when I ask on here for feedback to get started it is hard to understand the intent or lack of replies, which in my mind is my issue as I sadly lack any confidence.
Whilst I am loosing weight and trying to eat healthier, which is great I am still struggling with how I look and it is horrible. I woke up today and looked at the picture and almost burst into tears over how bad I look. I guess it is a case of "woe is me" and a bit of "drink some cement and harden up princess".
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Evelyn K on August 26, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
Post by: Evelyn K on August 26, 2014, 04:11:17 AM
^^ You're off into the playoffs already with relative androgony. Just lose teh shadow. No kidding.
Evelyn K ain't about teh beowshiet. HRT + You = Definite Win.
Evelyn K ain't about teh beowshiet. HRT + You = Definite Win.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jname on August 26, 2014, 04:15:58 AM
Post by: jname on August 26, 2014, 04:15:58 AM
Yeah i would think you was female already tbh. Just wow!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on August 26, 2014, 04:46:22 AM
Post by: Leila on August 26, 2014, 04:46:22 AM
@dahl
Looking very fem for someone pre-hrt. No real masculine skeletal features on your face spring to mind. Slight facial hair shadow, but some concealer or more long term a few sessions of LHR should sort that out and finally tidy your brows, you're good to pass with minimal to zero make up.
Looking very fem for someone pre-hrt. No real masculine skeletal features on your face spring to mind. Slight facial hair shadow, but some concealer or more long term a few sessions of LHR should sort that out and finally tidy your brows, you're good to pass with minimal to zero make up.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on August 26, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Post by: Shantel on August 26, 2014, 09:13:40 AM
Quote from: dahl on August 25, 2014, 11:12:45 PM
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I just thought to post a pre-hrt picture of me, and from there see how time beautifies me. Yes. Jajajajaj.
okbb
Yes beautimous!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jamboe89 on August 26, 2014, 10:29:01 AM
Post by: jamboe89 on August 26, 2014, 10:29:01 AM
Everyone looks lovely, :) dahl I think everybody's wrapped up what I think already! You really have nothing to worry about.
Myself, I am exactly 1 month with hormones today, please be kind, as long as people don't think I'm hideous I'll be satisfied. :P Definitely growing my hair longer.
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Myself, I am exactly 1 month with hormones today, please be kind, as long as people don't think I'm hideous I'll be satisfied. :P Definitely growing my hair longer.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 26, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
Post by: Aus76 on August 26, 2014, 10:35:37 AM
jamboe--
Not hideous. The thing that works for you, I think, is that being thin gives you a great canvas to work with. My GT said yesterday that 6-9 months in are when changes happen for most.
Not hideous. The thing that works for you, I think, is that being thin gives you a great canvas to work with. My GT said yesterday that 6-9 months in are when changes happen for most.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ashlotte on August 26, 2014, 11:03:54 AM
Post by: Ashlotte on August 26, 2014, 11:03:54 AM
Quote from: jamboe89 on August 26, 2014, 10:29:01 AM
Everyone looks lovely, :) dahl I think everybody's wrapped up what I think already! You really have nothing to worry about.
Myself, I am exactly 1 month with hormones today, please be kind, as long as people don't think I'm hideous I'll be satisfied. :P Definitely growing my hair longer.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi997.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf96%2Fjamboe1%2F05cec391-7b94-4e2a-9241-a9a53600e7d3_zps8683d35c.jpg&hash=4c79fb4dc471a1588a08ef10442c4259919cb3e2)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi997.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Faf96%2Fjamboe1%2F0f4b8916-cd92-426c-803e-e0d0725ee888_zps8d6a0689.jpg&hash=dde3c6d742668dfbca821f3e280210e3803609f0)
I think an eyebrow threading could do a lot for you. Also, avoid the Mary Kate and Ashley smile (by that I mean the slightly pursed lips + toothless smile thing). It looks very feminine, but smiles look best when they're natural. ;D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fjustadaydream.files.wordpress.com%2F2010%2F08%2Falg_ashley-olsen_mary-kate-olsen.jpg&hash=4530547934c96d13aa67da460ab60c4df497d069) VS (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn01.cdn.justjared.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fheadlines%2F2010%2F02%2Fmary-kate-ashley-olsen-olsenboye-good-morning-america.jpg&hash=a4ea9328dd721ff14d0fae2a6c1f067e85f544b3)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ashlotte on August 26, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
Post by: Ashlotte on August 26, 2014, 11:24:25 AM
Quote from: dahl on August 26, 2014, 11:16:16 AM
Okay okay, so... first of all, I'd like to say-
thank you thank you thank you so much, good golly miss molly, and... kittyface.
:3!
I was very nervous about posting my picture, mainly because I never really seek out opinions on how I look, if I fall into the female category upon first impressions- because I'm afraid of reactions. I've been 'mistaken' as female before, and in my adolescence it bothered me- mostly because it bothered my family. I didn't understand what the term transgender, transsexual, or even any other term falling into the lgbt category. I didn't know who I was, so I followed basic principles of what a man should be.
It just... now, it feels so so good when I read these comments. For some reason I was dreading what was going to happen, but I acted on impulse, took a photo of me, uploaded, and knocked myself out to sleep. I'm so happy that I FINALLY posted. These sweet, sweet replies made my day and actually solidified my confidence. Really. Now I'm even more eager to begin my hrt transition, and see where that takes me.
You girls are stunning in every possible way, and I look forward to growing into myself, hand in hand with you all. Thank you so much, you dreamboats.
kittyfacex2. :3
Welcome! You may want to introduce yourself here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/board,8.0.html You're personality certainly stands out, and I hope to see more of you here.
Btw, Jamboe, sorry if I came off as rude, it's just a little pet peeve of mine. You're still so early on hormones, so there's a lot of room for improvement. You're pretty now, and I can see you being seriously gorgeous in the future. I think you'll hardly need FFS.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 26, 2014, 12:27:46 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 26, 2014, 12:27:46 PM
Quote from: dahl on August 25, 2014, 11:12:45 PMOh yes very nice. Hrt will make you into a beauty.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMvF4cpq.jpg&hash=bdb2373a331cf7f6a552013d0f0c77467459beb2)
^ Me and my face. <3
Whoo! *dies dramatically with lazorz*
... omg I seriously posted a picture. I've... never done that! laik. serrrrrz.
Okay, I'm sorry about the spaz- I'm not normally like this... but I suppose normal is relative, so the universe would probably dictate I'm a crazy wildebeast-person-werecat. lemur.
This is a raw portrait taken with my lousy selfy photography skills.
by the way, I'm not really asking for a pass or fail because clearly I have ze stache and other things- I just thought to post a pre-hrt picture of me, and from there see how time beautifies me. Yes. Jajajajaj.
okbb
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on August 26, 2014, 07:06:52 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on August 26, 2014, 07:06:52 PM
Quote from: dahl on August 25, 2014, 11:12:45 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMvF4cpq.jpg&hash=bdb2373a331cf7f6a552013d0f0c77467459beb2)
^ Me and my face. <3
Whoo! *dies dramatically with lazorz*
... omg I seriously posted a picture. I've... never done that! laik. serrrrrz.
Okay, I'm sorry about the spaz- I'm not normally like this... but I suppose normal is relative, so the universe would probably dictate I'm a crazy wildebeast-person-werecat. lemur.
This is a raw portrait taken with my lousy selfy photography skills.
by the way, I'm not really asking for a pass or fail because clearly I have ze stache and other things- I just thought to post a pre-hrt picture of me, and from there see how time beautifies me. Yes. Jajajajaj.
okbb
girl get rid of the stache and you already pass In my book.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:28:28 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:28:28 AM
Okay first Im sorry I am posting picture again but I have a new computer and was able to take a lot better pics. Thanks for your replies or post, Same as before, my face and my body passable, not my arms yet bc there still obvious as hell, and Im growing my own hair but this wig I get the general idea. I hope you do to....
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10382862_1499471486965858_5994219415316153079_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10577068_1499471373632536_9212471297202656408_n.jpg?oh=c071de75f1d5002b1f343f7d9407f7a1&oe=5462B363&__gda__=1417113865_414d8fbb94c53facaec050ff275f1456)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10639401_1499471276965879_5453350919005536157_n.jpg?oh=f9422ee6c3f93bbe273b2e0551737ca4&oe=547FBA52&__gda__=1415386936_a5546df681b0c96784b6ae62c4d401bc)(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1394091_1493476427565364_524152163516162522_n.jpg?oh=003e1a6d51d7ef0e2b8cc68fe5a1a100&oe=547107BF)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1901400_1493476374232036_3320650916302204773_n.jpg)
Also what about my tattoos? Are they gonna be a problem? And I posted the dreaded boy mode pics. I weighed 265 in those, the real me girl photos I am close to 230 now.
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10382862_1499471486965858_5994219415316153079_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10577068_1499471373632536_9212471297202656408_n.jpg?oh=c071de75f1d5002b1f343f7d9407f7a1&oe=5462B363&__gda__=1417113865_414d8fbb94c53facaec050ff275f1456)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10639401_1499471276965879_5453350919005536157_n.jpg?oh=f9422ee6c3f93bbe273b2e0551737ca4&oe=547FBA52&__gda__=1415386936_a5546df681b0c96784b6ae62c4d401bc)(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1394091_1493476427565364_524152163516162522_n.jpg?oh=003e1a6d51d7ef0e2b8cc68fe5a1a100&oe=547107BF)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1901400_1493476374232036_3320650916302204773_n.jpg)
Also what about my tattoos? Are they gonna be a problem? And I posted the dreaded boy mode pics. I weighed 265 in those, the real me girl photos I am close to 230 now.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jamboe89 on August 27, 2014, 04:49:30 AM
Post by: jamboe89 on August 27, 2014, 04:49:30 AM
Quote from: Ashlotte on August 26, 2014, 11:24:25 AMNot at all :), I truly appreciate your advice, definitely agree with the Olsen twins style smile in particular, though I unfortunately do it a lot... there's actually a photo of me as an 8year old in the next room with the exact same smile! Eyebrow threading is definitely something I'll be researching soon. Thanks!
Btw, Jamboe, sorry if I came off as rude, it's just a little pet peeve of mine. You're still so early on hormones, so there's a lot of room for improvement. You're pretty now, and I can see you being seriously gorgeous in the future. I think you'll hardly need FFS.
Quote from: Aus76 on August 26, 2014, 10:35:37 AMThank you, really appreciate your advice. It's definitely early days yet. The comments are really boosting my confidence so thanks. :)
jamboe--
Not hideous. The thing that works for you, I think, is that being thin gives you a great canvas to work with. My GT said yesterday that 6-9 months in are when changes happen for most.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on August 27, 2014, 05:13:50 AM
Post by: YinYanga on August 27, 2014, 05:13:50 AM
Ive been waiting to see jamboe appear somewhere here, I remember our chatter in music thread: diverse and fun!
The person behind it looks nice to, no doubt you'll shine more if you give yourself and HRT some time
Good seeing you :)
There are some pictures here of me aswell, easier to dig through my post history if you are curious. Warning, I am exotic weirdness :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on August 27, 2014, 05:22:41 AM
Post by: Illuminess on August 27, 2014, 05:22:41 AM
I gotta say, Cristyjade... you make it work. I'm still a bit intimidated by makeup. I'm kinda waiting on HRT to improve my skin before I delve in. Hell, as much as I'd love to really go all out with what I like — which isn't even uber femme — I'm scared to death of the immense change that's going to be, and I don't even have anyone in my life that has shown the least bit of disapproval. Plus, I can't take my beanie off around anyone without exposing my hairline, and that completely defeats the purpose of presenting. I admire everyone's courage. I'll get there eventually, but I'm going to need a little help from Miss Estrogen to get the ball rolling. I've always hated how the pores around my nose make it look like a seedless strawberry, and I could never find anything to shrink them...until now...of all things. :/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jamboe89 on August 27, 2014, 05:27:00 AM
Post by: jamboe89 on August 27, 2014, 05:27:00 AM
Quote from: YinYanga on August 27, 2014, 05:13:50 AM
Ive been waiting to see jamboe appear somewhere here, I remember our chatter in music thread: diverse and fun!
The person behind it looks nice to, no doubt you'll shine more if you give yourself and HRT some time
Good seeing you :)
There are some pictures here of me aswell, easier to dig through my post history if you are curious. Warning, I am exotic weirdness :P
Right that is my mission for today to look back in the thread! ;) That's exactly my thinking too, 'the people behind the text', literally! The hands to type in front of the mind/heart. Thanks for your kind words. :)
I definitely need to get back into the 'Music you're listening to' thread... will do so soon, have been listening to a few things recently particularly. But anyway, back to these photos... not that I'll be judging them of course, like everyone else's, but they'll be lovely to see!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: beren_ts on August 27, 2014, 07:25:53 AM
Post by: beren_ts on August 27, 2014, 07:25:53 AM
Quote from: dahl on August 25, 2014, 11:12:45 PMWOW :o. And that's Pre-Hrt??? I don't see ANYTHING masculine on your face. Do you even hit puberty? The mustache is not that bad, since you have dark hair. I saw many dark haired women like that really. You could try to epilate it instead of shaving it. And tada you pass 100% facially.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMvF4cpq.jpg&hash=bdb2373a331cf7f6a552013d0f0c77467459beb2)
^ Me and my face. <3
Whoo! *dies dramatically with lazorz*
... omg I seriously posted a picture. I've... never done that! laik. serrrrrz.
Okay, I'm sorry about the spaz- I'm not normally like this... but I suppose normal is relative, so the universe would probably dictate I'm a crazy wildebeast-person-werecat. lemur.
This is a raw portrait taken with my lousy selfy photography skills.
by the way, I'm not really asking for a pass or fail because clearly I have ze stache and other things- I just thought to post a pre-hrt picture of me, and from there see how time beautifies me. Yes. Jajajajaj.
okbb
And btw i love your eyebrows, they have such feminine but also wild vibe on them*-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 12:10:45 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 12:10:45 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on August 27, 2014, 05:22:41 AM
I gotta say, Cristyjade... you make it work. I'm still a bit intimidated by makeup. I'm kinda waiting on HRT to improve my skin before I delve in. Hell, as much as I'd love to really go all out with what I like — which isn't even uber femme — I'm scared to death of the immense change that's going to be, and I don't even have anyone in my life that has shown the least bit of disapproval. Plus, I can't take my beanie off around anyone without exposing my hairline, and that completely defeats the purpose of presenting. I admire everyone's courage. I'll get there eventually, but I'm going to need a little help from Miss Estrogen to get the ball rolling. I've always hated how the pores around my nose make it look like a seedless strawberry, and I could never find anything to shrink them...until now...of all things. :/
I been doing makeup on myself since I was a little cristy lol. But they have good makeup tutorials on you tube. You would look fantastic in makeup, bc you already look great. And I had pores like that, but I started using olay moisterisers, and it took time but over about 6 months my pores diminished pretty good. I still haven't started any hrt, I am trying to get below 200 pounds so I got atleast 2 months before I start.
I am scared of gaining weight on hrt, So getting below 200 if I can keep eating the way I do I hope I continue to lose weight. Also my hair is receding, I use MiN home maintenece and hair loss spray, I was almost completely thinned out on top 3 months of this its came back and its still getting better. ou can google that stuff and check there reviews. I cant wait to see you on hrt and transitioned also.... ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 12:16:39 PM
Quote from: dahl on August 27, 2014, 08:19:37 AM
Wowowaweewaw!
Thank you girls again for the sweet and cuddly responses! And yeah, stache has gotz to go I reckon.
Beren thank you! And I have to laugh. I think my brother and I take after our mom mostly, though I have my dad's puffy cheekies. Mom's VERY Asian (India, and I suppose other parts? Hmm, dunno.), Dad's Polish and... Hungarian- my dad's not very masculine around the face himself.
And I think I just hit puberty super duper late. xD I had a growth spurt at 16, from 5'4 to 5'11. Hahaha. I wish I could say I was unique in the family, but my brother actually has more 'pretty' features than he does masculine too? I don't know if that makes sense, it's the morning and I'm usually delirious. @____@!!!
I have to say though, I was always chub around my face. I didn't realize I had a face... underneath the cheeks that were gradually taking over the rest of my face. Oh man, giving humanistic qualities to my cheeks sounds scary but brilliant- what if they had an accent... like... shiiiet the only thing that's coming to mind is Arnold Schwartzenaburgerrrrr (... spelling? lul)!
^ Okay... now I know I'm not making sense.
How far are you on HRT Miss Christy? I can already see incredible differences, babe! Everything is great, but I really love your skin. It's so pristine. And as far as I know with how you're looking, I think I can tell tattoo's won't be an issue- you'll probably like them even more if you're unsure now, a couple months later. I was always a fan of tattoo's myself, I don't have any yet, but you're seriously inspiring me.
Also, I personally might never figure out how to use make up effectively, but I think you certainly know how to use it. :3 Also I friggin cherish your cheekbones when you smile. Seriously, brilliant genetics gurrlfrien'.
I wanted to say those pants you're wearing really compliment your lady legs. I love it.
Congrats on everything you've accomplished thus far, I look forward to seeing more of you. Gosh, I'm legitimately excited. If I could bounce of walls without horribly injuring myself, I'd totally do it.
So I'm spiritually bouncing for you. ;D I mean it sounds slightly erotic but adding spiritually makes it less... Whatever. I'm done with english. |:
Thank you sweetheart! You made my day. I saw your pics also I think, its kinda hard to keep up bc I am always on the road, but you looked great too. But I am still pre hrt of any kind, I am trying to get to 200 pounds or less before I start hrt. I am super scared of gaining weight when I worked so hard to lose 35 pounds. Those boy pics are from about three months ago, I still trying to get rid of my bulky arms and shoulders. I really appreciate the comments. I am suffering from super depression bc I had to hit the road two days from returning from the hospital with a new born baby. So you lifted me right up. Muah! I love you girls!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:28:28 AM
Okay first Im sorry I am posting picture again but I have a new computer and was able to take a lot better pics. Thanks for your replies or post, Same as before, my face and my body passable, not my arms yet bc there still obvious as hell, and Im growing my own hair but this wig I get the general idea. I hope you do to....
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/t1.0-9/10382862_1499471486965858_5994219415316153079_n.jpg)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10577068_1499471373632536_9212471297202656408_n.jpg?oh=c071de75f1d5002b1f343f7d9407f7a1&oe=5462B363&__gda__=1417113865_414d8fbb94c53facaec050ff275f1456)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10639401_1499471276965879_5453350919005536157_n.jpg?oh=f9422ee6c3f93bbe273b2e0551737ca4&oe=547FBA52&__gda__=1415386936_a5546df681b0c96784b6ae62c4d401bc)(https://scontent-a-atl.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1394091_1493476427565364_524152163516162522_n.jpg?oh=003e1a6d51d7ef0e2b8cc68fe5a1a100&oe=547107BF)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/t1.0-9/1901400_1493476374232036_3320650916302204773_n.jpg)
Also what about my tattoos? Are they gonna be a problem? And I posted the dreaded boy mode pics. I weighed 265 in those, the real me girl photos I am close to 230 now.
Cristyjade30, you remind me a lot of myself pre-transistion. I was the same weight as you, tattooed(still am). The one critisism I have is maybe try glasses that are a bit less narrow. I think the narrowness of them makes your face look bigger than it is. I cant really geta good feel of the makeup because of the lighting in the pics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:19:03 PM
Cristyjade30, you remind me a lot of myself pre-transistion. I was the same weight as you, tattooed(still am). The one critisism I have is maybe try glasses that are a bit less narrow. I think the narrowness of them makes your face look bigger than it is. I cant really geta good feel of the makeup because of the lighting in the pics.
Yeah I gotta get me some better glasses, but thanks for your comments, your avatar looks great! Did you start hrt at my weight?
If so how was it still losing the weight? Thanks sweety
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 01:36:42 PM
Yeah I gotta get me some better glasses, but thanks for your comments, your avatar looks great! Did you start hrt at my weight?
If so how was it still losing the weight? Thanks sweety
I didn't start hrt at 260, I started around 220 and stayed on a pretty strict diet for the next six months to get where I am now. Since I started injections for hrt, my muscle mass has been going away also, I really need to weigh myself soon.
Here's a pic I posted in the fab darling thread, two years ago and then a few days ago.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/14866460039_0aeb7e9558_b.jpg)
Early on, I was told that I would never pass and blah blah blah. HRT is a powerful thing.
For the glasses, take a look at Coastal.com, search for coupons and you can get your first pair free.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 01:44:17 PM
I didn't start hrt at 260, I started around 220 and stayed on a pretty strict diet for the next six months to get where I am now. Since I started injections for hrt, my muscle mass has been going away also, I really need to weigh myself soon.
Here's a pic I posted in the fab darling thread, two years ago and then a few days ago.
(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3850/14866460039_0aeb7e9558_b.jpg)
Early on, I was told that I would never pass and blah blah blah. HRT is a powerful thing.
For the glasses, take a look at Coastal.com, search for coupons and you can get your first pair free.
Wow you look great, I am so nervous bc of my family situation, but I decided damn the torpedoes and full steam ahead! Lol
I am doing it no matter the consequences. Ill tread lightly as possible and be as honest as possible when the time comes but I cant live the way I am any more.... Your pictures and story inspire me thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
Post by: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 02:54:16 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 02:30:27 PM
Wow you look great, I am so nervous bc of my family situation, but I decided damn the torpedoes and full steam ahead! Lol
I am doing it no matter the consequences. Ill tread lightly as possible and be as honest as possible when the time comes but I cant live the way I am any more.... Your pictures and story inspire me thank you!
The family part for me wasn't easy. My mother who was supportive when she though it was just drag, changed her tune when she found out I was trans. Luckily I don't have kids so that wasn't an issue. My ex left me right before I came out for other reasons and now wants me back and is 100% supportive of my transition. The only issue is that I met and fell in love with someone else and she told me that she wanted me back three months into my new relationship. But, that's a topic for another thread.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:20:51 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:20:51 PM
Quote from: michelle666 on August 27, 2014, 02:54:16 PM.
The family part for me wasn't easy. My mother who was supportive when she though it was just drag, changed her tune when she found out I was trans. Luckily I don't have kids so that wasn't an issue. My ex left me right before I came out for other reasons and now wants me back and is 100% supportive of my transition. The only issue is that I met and fell in love with someone else and she told me that she wanted me back three months into my new relationship. But, that's a topic for another thread.
My wife is supportive but doesn't want me to transition, so Im scared of whats gonna happen when I transition, Its hard for us because everybody just thinks were perverted guys that want to look like girls all the time. They don't realize its a matter of biology not mentality
bc I tried myself until recently when I was 30 to be the macho army guy. Hot rods and fast bikes, all that mess, but I was just trying to fill voids and be in denial of who I am. I don't know why were made the way we are but its not something you wake up one day and are like hey Im a chick! Were born with it and were pretty hated for it. Even more so than homosexuals. On you tube there are beautiful trans girls that put their transition time line on you tube, and they get a lot of hate comments that you tube needs to ban. But that's for another thread also lol. Anyway thanks for your support sweety and I am so happy for you that you are your authentic self. Ill be there soon too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 03:20:51 PM
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My wife is supportive but doesn't want me to transition, so Im scared of whats gonna happen when I transition, Its hard for us because everybody just thinks were perverted guys that want to look like girls all the time. They don't realize its a matter of biology not mentality
bc I tried myself until recently when I was 30 to be the macho army guy. Hot rods and fast bikes, all that mess, but I was just trying to fill voids and be in denial of who I am. I don't know why were made the way we are but its not something you wake up one day and are like hey Im a chick! Were born with it and were pretty hated for it. Even more so than homosexuals. On you tube there are beautiful trans girls that put their transition time line on you tube, and they get a lot of hate comments that you tube needs to ban. But that's for another thread also lol. Anyway thanks for your support sweety and I am so happy for you that you are your authentic self. Ill be there soon too!
I think you have a lot of potential Cristy and that's great that your wife is supportive. And your right, it's not something that is choice driven. I didn't wake up one day and think "hey, I think I'm actually a woman." I've been grappling with this since before I even knew what transgendered people were or before I even knew what I was thinking. I'm really depressed these days for not having said something, and it was primarily because I had a sister who was into Eminem and liked to toss around the word ->-bleeped-<-got. Even my mother said it as a joke, like she'd say "come on ->-bleeped-<-got" to the dog or something. They didn't mean anything by it, but there using the word so freely in basics cost me a life as a normal human being.
Like I said though, it looks like you have potential... at least in comparison to myself. I'd wager a bet and say I have no chance of ever passing. It's tough for me to deal with - don't even know if I can deal with it - but it's true. You don't look overly masculine like myself. My skeleton is about as masculine as you can get...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 04:02:43 PM
Wow, well done Michelle. You look considerably different in those two pics...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on August 27, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
Post by: Starla on August 27, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2s0ya7b.jpg&hash=5dfc1475925674d140b3c51186305f73bd00f8b8)
From today! Pre HRT. I really hope to start soon. ???
From today! Pre HRT. I really hope to start soon. ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ashlotte on August 27, 2014, 05:46:43 PM
Post by: Ashlotte on August 27, 2014, 05:46:43 PM
Quote from: Starla on August 27, 2014, 04:42:26 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2s0ya7b.jpg&hash=5dfc1475925674d140b3c51186305f73bd00f8b8)
From today! Pre HRT. I really hope to start soon. ???
This is pre HRT?? Did you accidentally post a picture of a cis girl??
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on August 27, 2014, 05:53:42 PM
Post by: Starla on August 27, 2014, 05:53:42 PM
Quote from: Ashlotte on August 27, 2014, 05:46:43 PM
This is pre HRT?? Did you accidentally post a picture of a cis girl??
:D
I'll take that as a compliment! It's something I have struggled with my whole life though. Growing up having to wear boy clothes but have people asking "Is that a boy or girl?" ??? it got even more confusing for some once I started to grow my hair out. That's not my actual hair in the pic though, it's a wig! :D My natural hair is curly and about shoulder length.
Thanks though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 08:24:59 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 04:00:42 PM
I think you have a lot of potential Cristy and that's great that your wife is supportive. And your right, it's not something that is choice driven. I didn't wake up one day and think "hey, I think I'm actually a woman." I've been grappling with this since before I even knew what transgendered people were or before I even knew what I was thinking. I'm really depressed these days for not having said something, and it was primarily because I had a sister who was into Eminem and liked to toss around the word ->-bleeped-<-got. Even my mother said it as a joke, like she'd say "come on ->-bleeped-<-got" to the dog or something. They didn't mean anything by it, but there using the word so freely in basics cost me a life as a normal human being.
Like I said though, it looks like you have potential... at least in comparison to myself. I'd wager a bet and say I have no chance of ever passing. It's tough for me to deal with - don't even know if I can deal with it - but it's true. You don't look overly masculine like myself. My skeleton is about as masculine as you can get...
If that's you in the avatar that's totally not true, You look great, I don't know if your on hrt but its supposed to change a lot. I KNOW ITS NOT ABOUT PASSING, BUT NEVER GIVE UP SWEETY! You are a very genious person and you look pretty no matter what you think or anybody else. And my mother hates what she calls ->-bleeped-<-s so that's gonna be interesting? And thanks for the kind words.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 08:52:23 PM
Oh, that's me and I'm not on HRT. It sucks. I'm not all that worried about my face and I'd get full FFS. It's just that I'm a touch below 6'0" with HUGE hands. Not huge muscular hands, just hugely boned hands. My ring finger is only about a size 8 and I also have a strong female digit ratio, but it does nothing for them. Totally knobby and I mean noticeably knobby. I have bouchardes nodes already on a few fingers of my left hand... I'd love to get them removed. From wrist to fingers end my hands are just a little below 8", if at all, and my palm is almost 4" across. Plus, my rib cage is male-type in shape and although not large, it's big enough.
I need to do a full body pic soon. I feel like I could potentially pass very well or not even close. I'm very conflicted. Thanks though.
I need to do a full body pic soon. I feel like I could potentially pass very well or not even close. I'm very conflicted. Thanks though.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 08:52:23 PMIll put pics up of my manhands from years of welding, my hands are muscular and ive been told they wont reduce in size but they appear to bc they do slim. Add that to nice French tip manicure and I bet nobody would notice. I never look at a girls hands, ass and boobs and face lol and you are very pretty. I should post a video of this marine and she was 6,2 and 250 of muscle. she is completely passable and very hot.
Oh, that's me and I'm not on HRT. It sucks. I'm not all that worried about my face and I'd get full FFS. It's just that I'm a touch below 6'0" with HUGE hands. Not huge muscular hands, just hugely boned hands. My ring finger is only about a size 8 and I also have a strong female digit ratio, but it does nothing for them. Totally knobby and I mean noticeably knobby. I have bouchardes nodes already on a few fingers of my left hand... I'd love to get them removed. From wrist to fingers end my hands are just a little below 8", if at all, and my palm is almost 4" across. Plus, my rib cage is male-type in shape and although not large, it's big enough.
I need to do a full body pic soon. I feel like I could potentially pass very well or not even close. I'm very conflicted. Thanks though.
I am conflicted myself but I know I wont be happy unless I try. Having a pretty face like yours and even if your real slim and slender just eat a little more high fat food while your on hrt, I am also 6 ft. And I know its ymmv but Ive talked to a lot that lost a few inches on heighth .
And if your a fatty like I am just eat a good healthy diet. I was 265 I am now close to breaking in the 220s and I have only been dieting for about two and a half months. but you looked slim and very pretty. I know youll be a knock out...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 09:54:01 PM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 27, 2014, 09:36:39 PM
Ill put pics up of my manhands from years of welding, my hands are muscular and ive been told they wont reduce in size but they appear to bc they do slim. Add that to nice French tip manicure and I bet nobody would notice. I never look at a girls hands, ass and boobs and face lol and you are very pretty. I should post a video of this marine and she was 6,2 and 250 of muscle. she is completely passable and very hot.
I am conflicted myself but I know I wont be happy unless I try. Having a pretty face like yours and even if your real slim and slender just eat a little more high fat food while your on hrt, I am also 6 ft. And I know its ymmv but Ive talked to a lot that lost a few inches on heighth .
And if your a fatty like I am just eat a good healthy diet. I was 265 I am now close to breaking in the 220s and I have only been dieting for about two and a half months. but you looked slim and very pretty. I know youll be a knock out...
Yeah, height isn't really what bothers me... just these damn hands. There naturally awful too and it's all bone. I'll never be a hand model. Right now I'm like 165lbs. I'm dropping to 125-135 in the next couple months. Then I'm starting HRT and packing on the lbs...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on August 27, 2014, 09:54:53 PM
If I lost even a solid inch in height though... I would be happy.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 27, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 27, 2014, 10:23:58 PM
I have doubts about my ability to 'pass'. Here is me, on hormones for a month.
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/Zoe_the_Obscure/ME_zpse8e3de65.jpg
http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h247/Zoe_the_Obscure/ME_zpse8e3de65.jpg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 27, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 27, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
What do guys think? Is there any hope of me not being recognised as a male all the time?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 28, 2014, 07:05:27 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 28, 2014, 07:05:27 AM
Quote from: Zoe the Obscure on August 27, 2014, 10:25:56 PM
What do guys think? Is there any hope of me not being recognised as a male all the time?
Yes there is always hope, you have to give the mones time to work, Ive heard it can take five years for some people to see good results,
and with plastic surgery getting cheaper these days because of competition, never give up sweety. Id rather not pass and be happy then not do it and be miserable. Im not at all saying you need plastic surgery by the way just give time for the hormones to work. I plan on presenting male until my body is a lot better looking. So I don't know how long it will be some see really good results within the first year some it takes years. You should go to youtube and see others that thought they had no hope of passing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 28, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Post by: Zoe the Obscure on August 28, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Quote from: Cristyjade30 on August 28, 2014, 07:05:27 AM
Yes there is always hope, you have to give the mones time to work, Ive heard it can take five years for some people to see good results,
and with plastic surgery getting cheaper these days because of competition, never give up sweety. Id rather not pass and be happy then not do it and be miserable. Im not at all saying you need plastic surgery by the way just give time for the hormones to work. I plan on presenting male until my body is a lot better looking. So I don't know how long it will be some see really good results within the first year some it takes years. You should go to youtube and see others that thought they had no hope of passing.
Yeah i present as male at the moment also, but i don't want to wait too long. Six months is the longest i a prepared to wait before i go FT, so i guess i will have to learn to live with my lot.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: justkaty on August 28, 2014, 11:08:18 PM
Post by: justkaty on August 28, 2014, 11:08:18 PM
I just came out to myself, and I want to know: could I?
http://i.imgur.com/e1iy4qR.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/e1iy4qR.jpg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 29, 2014, 08:18:19 AM
Post by: Aus76 on August 29, 2014, 08:18:19 AM
justkaty, it doesn't seem to be an active link.
(modified--must just be me, because others can see it)
(modified--must just be me, because others can see it)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on August 29, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
Post by: stephaniec on August 29, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
Quote from: justkaty on August 28, 2014, 11:08:18 PMyes
I just came out to myself, and I want to know: could I?
http://i.imgur.com/e1iy4qR.jpg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on August 30, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
Post by: Allyda on August 30, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
Quote from: justkaty on August 28, 2014, 11:08:18 PMI think very much so. Longer hair will do wonders. You already have a great facial structure to start off with
I just came out to myself, and I want to know: could I?
http://i.imgur.com/e1iy4qR.jpg
Ali :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on August 31, 2014, 09:36:07 AM
Post by: Aus76 on August 31, 2014, 09:36:07 AM
Good point, Kameron.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 31, 2014, 05:49:13 PM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on August 31, 2014, 05:49:13 PM
Quote from: Zoe the Obscure on August 28, 2014, 11:51:17 AM
Yeah i present as male at the moment also, but i don't want to wait too long. Six months is the longest i a prepared to wait before i go FT, so i guess i will have to learn to live with my lot.
That's very admirable, you have plenty of courage and I'm sure you will be beautiful.
Keep us posted sweety.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
Post by: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
I've posted more 'femme' pictures here before but now that I'm well underway with transition (4,5 months) I notice I feel more drawn to/comfy with a shorter hairstyle
Starting to feel like I am becoming a 'dime a dozen' woman just so I am more passable,...its just eating me up inside somehow; I'm overcompensating and my social anxiety isnt exactly improving either
Now that my body is visually changing (yay \o/) I'm revisiting my identity: "What kind of woman am I...what do I want to express? Am I even binary or genderqueer?". Its like I am thrown back 10 years back in time in a way
So here's the picture from 2 weeks ago, there's no wig, no makeup, just me plain me and my own hair which I am growing out. I dont go out like this btw
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWrH2Xqz.jpg&hash=0ffc272e18549f930ad0299208d967f3216f5d72)
I think Ill want a fitting pixie cut or anything upto chin length with some light everyday makeup (more if having a night out). Realizing it would make passing more of an effort in the end than the usual long hair approach I wonder if you have an advice, experiences with it? I am not exactly sold on FFS but perhaps its needed in the end
In short: Happier and more active since HRT, but struggling with style/identity
Starting to feel like I am becoming a 'dime a dozen' woman just so I am more passable,...its just eating me up inside somehow; I'm overcompensating and my social anxiety isnt exactly improving either
Now that my body is visually changing (yay \o/) I'm revisiting my identity: "What kind of woman am I...what do I want to express? Am I even binary or genderqueer?". Its like I am thrown back 10 years back in time in a way
So here's the picture from 2 weeks ago, there's no wig, no makeup, just me plain me and my own hair which I am growing out. I dont go out like this btw
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWrH2Xqz.jpg&hash=0ffc272e18549f930ad0299208d967f3216f5d72)
I think Ill want a fitting pixie cut or anything upto chin length with some light everyday makeup (more if having a night out). Realizing it would make passing more of an effort in the end than the usual long hair approach I wonder if you have an advice, experiences with it? I am not exactly sold on FFS but perhaps its needed in the end
In short: Happier and more active since HRT, but struggling with style/identity
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 01, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 01, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
I've posted more 'femme' pictures here before but now that I'm well underway with transition (4,5 months) I notice I feel more drawn to/comfy with a shorter hairstyle
Starting to feel like I am becoming a 'dime a dozen' woman just so I am more passable,...its just eating me up inside somehow; I'm overcompensating and my social anxiety isnt exactly improving either
Now that my body is visually changing (yay \o/) I'm revisiting my identity: "What kind of woman am I...what do I want to express? Am I even binary or genderqueer?". Its like I am thrown back 10 years back in time in a way
So here's the picture from 2 weeks ago, there's no wig, no makeup, just me plain me and my own hair which I am growing out. I dont go out like this btw
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWrH2Xqz.jpg&hash=0ffc272e18549f930ad0299208d967f3216f5d72)
I think Ill want a fitting pixie cut or anything upto chin length with some light everyday makeup (more if having a night out). Realizing it would make passing more of an effort in the end than the usual long hair approach I wonder if you have an advice, experiences with it? I am not exactly sold on FFS but perhaps its needed in the end
In short: Happier and more active since HRT, but struggling with style/identity
You're beautiful as I have always said, so we'll not go there and talk hair style. Personally I think a pixie cut would really fly well on you. It's always been my observation that trans women tend to want long hair styles as a badge of their femininity which works well enough on younger women but it seems that a trend for cis women is to begin shortening their hair as they get into their 30's and 40's and other than a few exceptions they leave the longer locks to the younger gals. You're probably not anywhere near that age yet, I don't know, but for my money the real secret of smart MtF women who want to pass well is to emulate cis trends. You have the right shaped face and head for a cute pixie cut.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ashlotte on September 01, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
Post by: Ashlotte on September 01, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
Quote from: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
I've posted more 'femme' pictures here before but now that I'm well underway with transition (4,5 months) I notice I feel more drawn to/comfy with a shorter hairstyle
Starting to feel like I am becoming a 'dime a dozen' woman just so I am more passable,...its just eating me up inside somehow; I'm overcompensating and my social anxiety isnt exactly improving either
Now that my body is visually changing (yay \o/) I'm revisiting my identity: "What kind of woman am I...what do I want to express? Am I even binary or genderqueer?". Its like I am thrown back 10 years back in time in a way
So here's the picture from 2 weeks ago, there's no wig, no makeup, just me plain me and my own hair which I am growing out. I dont go out like this btw
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FWrH2Xqz.jpg&hash=0ffc272e18549f930ad0299208d967f3216f5d72)
I think Ill want a fitting pixie cut or anything upto chin length with some light everyday makeup (more if having a night out). Realizing it would make passing more of an effort in the end than the usual long hair approach I wonder if you have an advice, experiences with it? I am not exactly sold on FFS but perhaps its needed in the end
In short: Happier and more active since HRT, but struggling with style/identity
I would have guessed this was post-FFS! You have a perfectly androgynous face. And honestly, you would pass bald girl. Go for short hair if it makes you happy.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 01, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
Post by: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 01, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
20 years old, 6'1" ~160lbs Pre-HRT w/makeup & wig
http://imgur.com/a/iOTGq
http://imgur.com/a/iOTGq
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 06:32:26 PM
Post by: YinYanga on September 01, 2014, 06:32:26 PM
Quote from: Shantel on September 01, 2014, 06:20:38 PM
You're beautiful as I have always said, so we'll not go there and talk hair style. Personally I think a pixie cut would really fly well on you. It's always been my observation that trans women tend to want long hair styles as a badge of their femininity which works well enough on younger women but it seems that a trend for cis women is to begin shortening their hair as they get into their 30's and 40's and other than a few exceptions they leave the longer locks to the younger gals. You're probably not anywhere near that age yet, I don't know, but for my money the real secret of smart MtF women who want to pass well is to emulate cis trends. You have the right shaped face and head for a cute pixie cut.
And you're (almost) always right Shantel! ^^ I'm 30 btw. Iguess it would be smarter to go with a longer coupe, but ugh
Quote from: dahl on September 01, 2014, 06:10:12 PM
You really are a dime in a dozen! Or a thousand, million~ You really look just... you have really grand features! Your progression is absolutely sensational! Everything is great, but I especially like your eyes. They're so bright and kind. Awes.
Rock on!
And about the revisits, I really do think it's great you're at a point where you can take a step back, and really contemplate. You knew the time to start HRT, so this next discovery just takes a bit longer. I know it'll come clear though, you're already making really great, big steps.
Thank you, Ive seen your pics aswell, lovely :) Yes its good I am contemplating things, I noticed part of me isnt going in the right direction so I am just doing some soul/style searching the coming time. Sadly presenting a little while longer like I am now but it wont be too long till I get more comfy I think
Quote from: Ashlotte on September 01, 2014, 06:22:26 PM
I would have guessed this was post-FFS! You have a perfectly androgynous face. And honestly, you would pass bald girl. Go for short hair if it makes you happy.
Pass bald?? Well that's...a challenge. FFS scares me a little because your face/expression does change. More looking forward to SRS if I am honest
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on September 01, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
Post by: Wynternight on September 01, 2014, 07:04:00 PM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 01, 2014, 06:22:42 PM
20 years old, 6'1" ~160lbs Pre-HRT w/makeup & wig
http://imgur.com/a/iOTGq
Total male fail. I think HRT will work magic on you. The good thing is you already have a wonderful foundation for it to work upon.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: justkaty on September 01, 2014, 07:42:16 PM
Post by: justkaty on September 01, 2014, 07:42:16 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on August 29, 2014, 08:18:19 AM
justkaty, it doesn't seem to be an active link.
(modified--must just be me, because others can see it)
I don't know why you can't see - sorry! :( Thanks for trying.
Quote from: dahl on August 29, 2014, 08:30:44 AM
First, congrats on a brilliant self-discovery Katy. :3
And, I think you have the makings! There's always a journey for the things we want, but with you it's not going to be a long one.
Right now you do have some masculine features, but your face is overall soft. You have some good things working for you. Long hair changes a lot of things, too. Maybe look around for some wigs to see what compliments you and what doesn't, so you know what you like when it's time to cut your hair.
You do have a nice arch to your brows, and your eyes are very sweet and girly. No jokes.
If you decide to start HRT (Hormone Replacement Therapy), I'm sure that will work wonders- not that you need wonders, you already have a good base, for your face.
Congrats again though, that's a huge step you took.
Thank you so much! I really appreciate your words of kindness.
Quote from: stephaniec on August 29, 2014, 09:33:41 AM
yes
Thank you!
Quote from: Allyda on August 30, 2014, 09:11:22 PM
I think very much so. Longer hair will do wonders. You already have a great facial structure to start off with
Ali :icon_flower:
Thanks, Ali! I'm obviously not trying that hard with this picture -- I agree that longer hair will make a big difference. That'll be my next step. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 01, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 01, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
I got "sister"ed on YouTube the other day. I quietly beamed. ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 10:35:20 AM
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 10:35:20 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on September 01, 2014, 09:31:38 PM
I got "sister"ed on YouTube the other day. I quietly beamed. ;D
I completely get that!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasmine96 on September 02, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
Post by: Jasmine96 on September 02, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
to put it simply I feel ugly. I need hrt so much.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 02, 2014, 02:15:08 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 02, 2014, 02:15:08 PM
Quote from: Jasmine96 on September 02, 2014, 01:45:40 PM
to put it simply I feel ugly. I need hrt so much.
I think you look great, but I feel the same way...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: YinYanga on September 02, 2014, 02:36:56 PM
Post by: YinYanga on September 02, 2014, 02:36:56 PM
I think we all have 'mirror' issues to some degree: I find it hard to accept a compliment about it because I;m so used to the insecurity and dypshoria that washed over me frequently
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 02, 2014, 02:54:43 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 02, 2014, 02:54:43 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on September 02, 2014, 02:15:08 PM
I think you look great, but I feel the same way...
Same here :D. But at least it is a different sort of ugliness now while on HRT.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 02, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 02, 2014, 05:02:58 PM
Quote from: Jasmine96 on September 02, 2014, 01:45:40 PMI think your gorgeous, but if you think u need hrt, im not gonna try to sway you. We're in the same boat.
to put it simply I feel ugly. I need hrt so much.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Post by: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Once my hair grows more? I'm pre-e, but I snapped this on the way to my gyno's so I can begin hrt! (once my blood tests come back she'll write my prescription!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on September 02, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
Post by: Brenda E on September 02, 2014, 05:55:47 PM
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Once my hair grows more? I'm pre-e, but I snapped this on the way to my gyno's so I can begin hrt! (once my blood tests come back she'll write my prescription!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
Wow.
You look absolutely amazing; looking at that photo, I would have said you were years down the HRT road already, and you certainly know how to present yourself in an extremely feminine, subtle manner.
Truly inspiring, and many thanks for sharing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Abby on September 02, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Post by: Abby on September 02, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Thank you :)
I dislike my general jawline, I joke that I look like a transgender Mount Rushmore, but I'm quite excited to see the effects of hrt
I dislike my general jawline, I joke that I look like a transgender Mount Rushmore, but I'm quite excited to see the effects of hrt
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 06:52:04 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 06:52:04 PM
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PM
Once my hair grows more? I'm pre-e, but I snapped this on the way to my gyno's so I can begin hrt! (once my blood tests come back she'll write my prescription!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
Abby, you look like you are well ahead of the process already, like your looks big time, very attractive!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 02, 2014, 07:22:35 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 02, 2014, 07:22:35 PM
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PMI think your beautiful! u pass with out e! im totally jealous
Once my hair grows more? I'm pre-e, but I snapped this on the way to my gyno's so I can begin hrt! (once my blood tests come back she'll write my prescription!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 06:03:37 PMso untrue your jawline isn't that bad. and to be honest if my face were on the transgender mount Rushmore I would be proud! :p lol
Thank you :)
I dislike my general jawline, I joke that I look like a transgender Mount Rushmore, but I'm quite excited to see the effects of hrt
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 02, 2014, 07:30:44 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 02, 2014, 07:22:35 PM
I think your beautiful! u pass with out e! im totally jealous so untrue your jawline isn't that bad. and to be honest if my face were on the transgender mount Rushmore I would be proud! :p lol
There is nothing intrinsically masculine about her jawline! But we all hate certain things about ourselves so I get where she's coming from.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on September 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on September 03, 2014, 02:01:32 AM
Abby, you look nice. And I agree with Shan, the jawline looks more feminine to me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on September 03, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
Post by: Sarah leah on September 03, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fsm0w9ol6d%2Ftest123.jpg&hash=a032d127dde1bf734a9a911790cb643a6191eeca) (http://postimage.org/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fpqnt2th6d%2Ftest12.jpg&hash=293839dba106e220c7f5048445d4e05631ceae50) (http://postimage.org/)
I got asked to repost so I could get feedback, so here goes. I am not on anything still, and no laser either. Be honest please as I need feedback!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fpqnt2th6d%2Ftest12.jpg&hash=293839dba106e220c7f5048445d4e05631ceae50) (http://postimage.org/)
I got asked to repost so I could get feedback, so here goes. I am not on anything still, and no laser either. Be honest please as I need feedback!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 09:52:18 AM
Quote from: Sarah leah on September 03, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fsm0w9ol6d%2Ftest123.jpg&hash=a032d127dde1bf734a9a911790cb643a6191eeca) (http://postimage.org/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fpqnt2th6d%2Ftest12.jpg&hash=293839dba106e220c7f5048445d4e05631ceae50) (http://postimage.org/)
I got asked to repost so I could get feedback, so here goes. I am not on anything still, and no laser either. Be honest please as I need feedback!
Yes you could with a little fine tuning, you will need bangs or some hair style to effectively diminish the height of your forehead.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XRkhIX.jpg&hash=149969d5c0452ea5aabd78918a97dc1e312d9c18)
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 03, 2014, 02:11:00 PM
Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XRkhIX.jpg&hash=149969d5c0452ea5aabd78918a97dc1e312d9c18)
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
Yes indeed, very pretty too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on September 03, 2014, 02:39:20 PM
Post by: Leila on September 03, 2014, 02:39:20 PM
Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
You look amazingly good, almost thought you were Fearne Cotton for a moment. :)
The wig works well with your face. I actually thought it was your real hair until you pointed it out. Skin looks soft and smooth, no hint of facial hair at all in the photo. Big change from your avatar photo.
Any comments from colleagues about your change in appearance?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 03, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 03, 2014, 03:05:11 PM
Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XRkhIX.jpg&hash=149969d5c0452ea5aabd78918a97dc1e312d9c18)
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
OMG... toooo cute :)
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 04:25:12 PM
Quote from: Leila on September 03, 2014, 02:39:20 PMAww thanks. My skin looks great because of the lighting and my best Estee Lauder makeup, it's not usually that smooth lol.
You look amazingly good, almost thought you were Fearne Cotton for a moment. :)
The wig works well with your face. I actually thought it was your real hair until you pointed it out. Skin looks soft and smooth, no hint of facial hair at all in the photo. Big change from your avatar photo.
Any comments from colleagues about your change in appearance?
And all my colleagues know I'm transitioning I just can't change my name yet or present female yet, I work in the police and have a few legal things I need to sort in December
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on September 03, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
Post by: Brenda E on September 03, 2014, 09:48:51 PM
Quote from: Sarah leah on September 03, 2014, 06:57:10 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fsm0w9ol6d%2Ftest123.jpg&hash=a032d127dde1bf734a9a911790cb643a6191eeca) (http://postimage.org/)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fpqnt2th6d%2Ftest12.jpg&hash=293839dba106e220c7f5048445d4e05631ceae50) (http://postimage.org/)
I got asked to repost so I could get feedback, so here goes. I am not on anything still, and no laser either. Be honest please as I need feedback!
Honestly - cute!
The photos are taken close and low-res, so it's difficult for me to get a broader judgment. Nice hair (your own?), and your face has a great feminine shape with no features that are obviously masculine. Bangs might help (as do most things that cover parts of our faces, such as glasses for those who need them), not that I looked at your photo and thought anything was wrong with your hairline or forehead. That's one area that bothers me intensely on my own face, and I tend to look at women very carefully to compare their hairlines and foreheads to mine, and to me yours looks normal.
To nitpick, the beard shows through, especially in the second photo. Laser time? Even after one session, I noticed a marked improvement in how easy it was to hide under regular foundation with less concealer. Worth every penny and every moment of misery.
Could you pass? Hon, I think you pass right now. You look lovely.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on September 03, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
Post by: Alaia on September 03, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 05:24:58 PMAbby, you already look great. You're going to be awesome on HRT, and congrats with that too btw! ;D
Once my hair grows more? I'm pre-e, but I snapped this on the way to my gyno's so I can begin hrt! (once my blood tests come back she'll write my prescription!)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1067.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fu429%2Fandrewfl1%2F0C1B909D-94DF-43E8-B783-51198B4D80E8_zpsarbkbvz0.jpg&hash=f1004842ecd6ae8a879c09f82c9a0b19062f1756)
Quote from: Sarah leah on September 03, 2014, 06:57:10 AMYou've got some great potential. A beautiful smile. Your hair is pretty cute (is it a wig or clip ons?), but as Brenda said you might want to give bangs a shot. I don't see any serious facial issues. Hard to tell with only a frontal face shot though. Until you get laser done, might want to try dabbing red lipstick to help with concealing the beard. Explained here:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs24.postimg.org%2Fsm0w9ol6d%2Ftest123.jpg&hash=a032d127dde1bf734a9a911790cb643a6191eeca) (http://postimage.org/)
I got asked to repost so I could get feedback, so here goes. I am not on anything still, and no laser either. Be honest please as I need feedback!
http://feminizationsecrets.com/top-5-beard-concealing-tips/
Quote from: f_Anna_tastic on September 03, 2014, 01:55:11 PMWow Anna, that is a really great picture. I think you are being a bit modest with saying it's the lighting. A lot of it is just you are getting to be very pretty. So own it :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0XRkhIX.jpg&hash=149969d5c0452ea5aabd78918a97dc1e312d9c18)
Taken with reallllllly good lighting
Age 30,11 months hrt. Still having to wear a wig so not full time at work yet but will be on 1st January.
FT can't come soon enough, can it? I'm champing at the bit on that one myself. Still have a couple months to go :/
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 04, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Post by: f_Anna_tastic on September 04, 2014, 03:49:36 AM
Quote from: Alaia on September 03, 2014, 11:02:22 PMI know, I'm getting do tetchy and had to set a date as a way of Controlling it. I'll be 14 months hrt by the time I'm full time so I think it's about time it happened!
Abby, you already look great. You're going to be awesome on HRT, and congrats with that too btw! ;D
You've got some great potential. A beautiful smile. Your hair is pretty cute (is it a wig or clip ons?), but as Brenda said you might want to give bangs a shot. I don't see any serious facial issues. Hard to tell with only a frontal face shot though. Until you get laser done, might want to try dabbing red lipstick to help with concealing the beard. Explained here:
http://feminizationsecrets.com/top-5-beard-concealing-tips/
Wow Anna, that is a really great picture. I think you are being a bit modest with saying it's the lighting. A lot of it is just you are getting to be very pretty. So own it :)
FT can't come soon enough, can it? I'm champing at the bit on that one myself. Still have a couple months to go :/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sarah leah on September 04, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
Post by: Sarah leah on September 04, 2014, 07:16:11 AM
Quote from: Alaia on September 03, 2014, 11:02:22 PM
You've got some great potential. A beautiful smile. Your hair is pretty cute (is it a wig or clip ons?), but as Brenda said you might want to give bangs a shot. I don't see any serious facial issues. Hard to tell with only a frontal face shot though. Until you get laser done, might want to try dabbing red lipstick to help with concealing the beard. Explained here:
http://feminizationsecrets.com/top-5-beard-concealing-tips/
Thank you all for the honesty and yes it is clip-on's as I had a hissy fit and cut my hair up to eye level a week ago. I just need to keep on track with weight lose as I am still 95kgs (209.439lbs) so its a slow process. In terms of the shadow we have no one for 500kms that can do it now (laser), so I will start practicing with make up more :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Post by: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: justkaty on September 04, 2014, 11:58:00 AM
Post by: justkaty on September 04, 2014, 11:58:00 AM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
NOTHING to be nervous about.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 04, 2014, 12:51:10 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 04, 2014, 12:51:10 PM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
Whoa girl, just darling!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Cristyjade30 on September 05, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
Post by: Cristyjade30 on September 05, 2014, 03:49:21 AM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
You look fine sweetheart! Much better than I do pre hrt. Im still losing weight down to 229 from 265. Also you look like one of my best friends I was in the Army with in Iraq. I had to tell you that? Anyway good luck to you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 05, 2014, 08:13:54 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 05, 2014, 08:13:54 AM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AMHi Emma,
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
You look great for pre everything. I can't wait to see you after 6 months of hrt. You'll look fabulous!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 05, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 05, 2014, 07:55:03 PM
Quote from: EmmaTheGirlAtHeart on September 04, 2014, 11:24:36 AM
Very nervous about how I look, currently pre-hrt...
http://i.imgur.com/nRFw8i1.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/JXXDsgJ.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/vAmlC1n.jpg
http://i.imgur.com/eaECKJr.jpg
girl u look good! you have a very soft face and really pretty eyes! you will look gorgeous on hormones!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on September 06, 2014, 03:16:34 AM
Post by: barbie on September 06, 2014, 03:16:34 AM
Quote from: Abby on September 02, 2014, 06:03:37 PM
Thank you :)
I dislike my general jawline, I joke that I look like a transgender Mount Rushmore, but I'm quite excited to see the effects of hrt
I also have rather masculine jawline, but do not care so much. Your jawline is far more feminine than mine. Don't care about it.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on September 06, 2014, 05:37:21 AM
Post by: yokosoko on September 06, 2014, 05:37:21 AM
SO Here I am again, trying to bundle up some courage to head out into the mall and buy some stuff, grab a coffee.. I'm in Asia at the moment so passing is quite important for me at the moment so i'd like to know if I do :). Personally I'm 50/50, I feel like some of my features give me away...and I cant tell if that 5 oclock shadow is hidden enough or if i'm looking too hard so some....third party perspectives would be nice :)
Let me know what ynou think!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMWLxVRO.jpg&hash=e985f4362b84f7ff524492d0b943b639e1dedab2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FshgnaDG.jpg&hash=4f3a169a965d897d2dae817b3138e3f3e513d1dd)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fy5jtjmx.jpg&hash=86dfc8bf509bb651c8369f6260e7f79e79e2c372)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F0KSBNam.jpg&hash=2ac5c8e6fb7041fffaca9ed72a91b18e52f2a20b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FLc0Eeh7.jpg&hash=bb53a06852d0d8c21f273dbc3448d36c8ec25075)
Let me know what ynou think!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMWLxVRO.jpg&hash=e985f4362b84f7ff524492d0b943b639e1dedab2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FshgnaDG.jpg&hash=4f3a169a965d897d2dae817b3138e3f3e513d1dd)
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Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on September 06, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Post by: Mickie on September 06, 2014, 11:05:17 AM
Quote from: yokosoko on September 06, 2014, 05:37:21 AMI think you look actually very feminine. Especially in the face shape. I actually didn't really notice any shadow
SO Here I am again, trying to bundle up some courage to head out into the mall and buy some stuff, grab a coffee.. I'm in Asia at the moment so passing is quite important for me at the moment so i'd like to know if I do :). Personally I'm 50/50, I feel like some of my features give me away...and I cant tell if that 5 oclock shadow is hidden enough or if i'm looking too hard so some....third party perspectives would be nice :)
Let me know what ynou think!
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 06, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 06, 2014, 03:49:58 PM
Quote from: yokosoko on September 06, 2014, 05:37:21 AMI agree you look very feminine. I can't see any beard shadow either. You look good. I love your hair wig or no wig. The style fits you.
SO Here I am again, trying to bundle up some courage to head out into the mall and buy some stuff, grab a coffee.. I'm in Asia at the moment so passing is quite important for me at the moment so i'd like to know if I do :). Personally I'm 50/50, I feel like some of my features give me away...and I cant tell if that 5 oclock shadow is hidden enough or if i'm looking too hard so some....third party perspectives would be nice :)
Let me know what you think!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FshgnaDG.jpg&hash=4f3a169a965d897d2dae817b3138e3f3e513d1dd)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: hapaqt808 on September 08, 2014, 04:35:32 AM
Post by: hapaqt808 on September 08, 2014, 04:35:32 AM
How do you add a pic to your post?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jamiep on September 08, 2014, 07:08:17 AM
Post by: Jamiep on September 08, 2014, 07:08:17 AM
hapaqt808, You may have to wait until you have posted 15 times. You will have to go to a picture & video storage site, open an account, upload a pic. I use photobucket (free). With photobucket, click on selected pic, to the right is "share links," list. Use bottom one IMG, when you click on it the word "copied" will flash on for a moment. In the area you are typing your post, right click, select paste & the link is there for your pic. Once you post, viola your pic appears. Easy. Hope that helps.
Jamiep
Jamiep
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 10, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 10, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
It's been a long time since I've been on the forum but I'm wondering whether or not I look totally passable. I'm a young transitioner of around 22 and I have been transitioning since I was 19. I have a few very recent pics to use and hopefully I'm not looking too rough. My insecurities are really playing up right now :(
I'm strongly considering undergoing facial surgery as well so a little feedback would be lovely thanks :)
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I'm strongly considering undergoing facial surgery as well so a little feedback would be lovely thanks :)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on September 10, 2014, 05:26:38 PM
Post by: barbie on September 10, 2014, 05:26:38 PM
Quote from: Danielle Jayne on September 10, 2014, 01:37:39 PM
It's been a long time since I've been on the forum but I'm wondering whether or not I look totally passable. I'm a young transitioner of around 22 and I have been transitioning since I was 19. I have a few very recent pics to use and hopefully I'm not looking too rough. My insecurities are really playing up right now :(
I'm strongly considering undergoing facial surgery as well so a little feedback would be lovely thanks :)
To my eyes, you are totally passable, and you are beautiful.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on September 11, 2014, 04:18:14 AM
Post by: yokosoko on September 11, 2014, 04:18:14 AM
Quote from: Danielle Jayne on September 10, 2014, 01:37:39 PMI am very jealous :d you have nothing to worry about and you don't just pass! You look great!
It's been a long time since I've been on the forum but I'm wondering whether or not I look totally passable. I'm a young transitioner of around 22 and I have been transitioning since I was 19. I have a few very recent pics to use and hopefully I'm not looking too rough. My insecurities are really playing up right now :(
I'm strongly considering undergoing facial surgery as well so a little feedback would be lovely thanks :)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on September 11, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
Post by: yokosoko on September 11, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
So thanks for the advice everyone! It was extremely helpful! I tried a few new things, changed some clothes, bought new glasses! What do you think? I'm interested in which outfits do I pass and which ones look great! I find skirts & dresses suit me more, but I do also want to be able to go out in Jeans, so I'm also interested in which of the jeans look, look okay (and same for heels, I feel Heels make SUCH a huge difference, but its nice to know which options people wont look twice at, should i choose to forego them.
The glasses are not quite the cat-eye ones you guys reccomended but they were on sale so i thought i'd try them out.
Also for my physique, I'm going for the athletic girl look, seeing as how consdering my physique its unrealistic to aim for a stick figure body. Do you guys think it's achievable considering what you're seeing? Here is a reference of my target body:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiPK634_KCtLco6vjvqA-tQmGDbMzOZZG_vTLn39xC2n-mJU39qg)
I'm also getting laser done soon, so that will hopefully improve some things face wise :D
I hope its not too many, does anyone know how to post IMGUR albums? They're more compact :)
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The glasses are not quite the cat-eye ones you guys reccomended but they were on sale so i thought i'd try them out.
Also for my physique, I'm going for the athletic girl look, seeing as how consdering my physique its unrealistic to aim for a stick figure body. Do you guys think it's achievable considering what you're seeing? Here is a reference of my target body:
(https://encrypted-tbn3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTiPK634_KCtLco6vjvqA-tQmGDbMzOZZG_vTLn39xC2n-mJU39qg)
I'm also getting laser done soon, so that will hopefully improve some things face wise :D
I hope its not too many, does anyone know how to post IMGUR albums? They're more compact :)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 11, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 11, 2014, 11:45:02 AM
Quote from: Danielle Jayne on September 10, 2014, 01:37:39 PMWell, from what I can see hun you don't need FFS. To me your very pretty and you should pass without a thought toward it. However, as I tell everyone. In the end you have to do what makes you feel the most comfortable with yourself. Confidence in yourself has a lot to do with passing so whatever you think is best we'll support you either way. But by what I see you don't really need any facial surgery.
It's been a long time since I've been on the forum but I'm wondering whether or not I look totally passable. I'm a young transitioner of around 22 and I have been transitioning since I was 19. I have a few very recent pics to use and hopefully I'm not looking too rough. My insecurities are really playing up right now :(
I'm strongly considering undergoing facial surgery as well so a little feedback would be lovely thanks :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F33blkl2.jpg&hash=89a714d6b1976498742f88d42edd130eae9062a5)
Best wishes! :)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: yokosoko on September 12, 2014, 08:19:27 PM
Post by: yokosoko on September 12, 2014, 08:19:27 PM
What about the glasses? Are they working for me?
Quote from: yokosoko on September 11, 2014, 09:06:16 AM
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on September 12, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
Post by: Wynternight on September 12, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
I think the glasses are too big; they kind of dominate your face. You can get smaller and more feminine looking frames.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 02:43:00 AM
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 02:43:00 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10394466_353834474785585_4074882209963637810_n.jpg?oh=b72d30725594c134d5a55f78c698cbf6&oe=54858FAC&__gda__=1417958181_eaeb966e2889186811726615c6a5a837)
Am I really making progress? I feel like I've hit a stand still, but then the mascara goes on and all bets are off.
Am I really making progress? I feel like I've hit a stand still, but then the mascara goes on and all bets are off.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on September 13, 2014, 03:21:29 AM
Post by: V M on September 13, 2014, 03:21:29 AM
I think you are making really good progress, you look to be feminizing nicely :icon_chick: Nice pic.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 13, 2014, 03:29:57 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 13, 2014, 03:29:57 AM
Quote from: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 02:43:00 AMLooking very lovely. Love your eyelashes!
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-9/10394466_353834474785585_4074882209963637810_n.jpg?oh=b72d30725594c134d5a55f78c698cbf6&oe=54858FAC&__gda__=1417958181_eaeb966e2889186811726615c6a5a837)
Am I really making progress? I feel like I've hit a stand still, but then the mascara goes on and all bets are off.
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 04:04:28 AM
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 04:04:28 AM
Quote from: V M on September 13, 2014, 03:21:29 AM
I think you are making really good progress, you look to be feminizing nicely :icon_chick: Nice pic.
Thank you! :) I am really excited to see what happens when my doctor fixes my levels!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on September 13, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on September 13, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
Quote from: Wynternight on September 12, 2014, 11:37:05 PM
I think the glasses are too big; they kind of dominate your face. You can get smaller and more feminine looking frames.
I'd agree. I totally love the look of women in glasses but these are about twice as big as would seem the usual black frames women might wear and, I feel, don't do you any favours. You have a pretty face, get some glasses that compliment your face and enhance your looks. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: secret on September 13, 2014, 05:17:00 AM
Post by: secret on September 13, 2014, 05:17:00 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on September 13, 2014, 04:09:29 AM
I'd agree. I totally love the look of women in glasses but these are about twice as big as would seem the usual black frames women might wear and, I feel, don't do you any favours. You have a pretty face, get some glasses that compliment your face and enhance your looks. :)
Me too, would also say the frame is too big. I think you should look for a frame which is smaller in width and height, may be with a slight butterfly form? You will find out by trying i'm sure. Every face needs it's own design of glasses.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 13, 2014, 07:45:38 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 13, 2014, 07:45:38 AM
Quote from: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 04:04:28 AMAre you having level problems too hun? I ask because despite having good results my E levels are less than what they should be at only 168 pg/ml. I have been on tablets up until this last visit with my Endo on Sept 4th, where he put me on injections which I will be starting today to hopefully bring my E levels up to where they should be.
Thank you! :) I am really excited to see what happens when my doctor fixes my levels!
Best wishes :)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 01:48:20 PM
Post by: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 01:48:20 PM
My estradiol level is 68 pg/mL
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 12:11:24 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 12:11:24 PM
Quote from: HeatherR on September 13, 2014, 01:48:20 PMpm incoming.
My estradiol level is 68 pg/mL
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
Okay.. no more shoddy Photoshopped attempts at looking female in my pics...
Here I am, as I am now, and next to that is my general goal:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10647081_10154590454915253_3329875819478940827_n.jpg?oh=9804e9efbc9fe8c8510143a37d020fe6&oe=54836BCF&__gda__=1419488666_4f9003ff9f8467bca8a5b3b12270ed70) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649876_10154590467255253_6997934467160143340_n.jpg?oh=546275d7731fc0a000acb3a00bc7cec7&oe=54919E3B&__gda__=1419420461_8097bb794bb720df367ee5826eba931c)
Do you think it's something I'll be able to pull off? I still haven't gotten my HRT. I wish there was a virtual way of estimating how the face will look after several months. But the look of the person in that photo is my initial goal considering my hairline. I plan on growing it very long, but I'd like to have some kind of cute style so I don't have to wear my beanie all the time. I'll also be adding a brow ring eventually. Always wanted one, but now I think it'll look right on me. I'm also slowly starting to replace my old wardrobe with feminine things. Currently obsessed with long cardigans.
Here I am, as I am now, and next to that is my general goal:
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10647081_10154590454915253_3329875819478940827_n.jpg?oh=9804e9efbc9fe8c8510143a37d020fe6&oe=54836BCF&__gda__=1419488666_4f9003ff9f8467bca8a5b3b12270ed70) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649876_10154590467255253_6997934467160143340_n.jpg?oh=546275d7731fc0a000acb3a00bc7cec7&oe=54919E3B&__gda__=1419420461_8097bb794bb720df367ee5826eba931c)
Do you think it's something I'll be able to pull off? I still haven't gotten my HRT. I wish there was a virtual way of estimating how the face will look after several months. But the look of the person in that photo is my initial goal considering my hairline. I plan on growing it very long, but I'd like to have some kind of cute style so I don't have to wear my beanie all the time. I'll also be adding a brow ring eventually. Always wanted one, but now I think it'll look right on me. I'm also slowly starting to replace my old wardrobe with feminine things. Currently obsessed with long cardigans.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 14, 2014, 01:12:41 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 14, 2014, 01:12:41 PM
I think you could pull it off rather nicely!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
Quote from: Shantel on September 14, 2014, 01:12:41 PMGood. :) I often worry that my face has aged too much to look the way I want. My hair is also a lot thinner on top which worries me. I need the 'mones quickly!
I think you could pull it off rather nicely!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 14, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 14, 2014, 01:23:49 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on September 14, 2014, 01:17:40 PM
Good. :) I often worry that my face has aged too much to look the way I want. My hair is also a lot thinner on top which worries me. I need the 'mones quickly!
Once the softening up of your features takes effect and you have applied makeup like that woman you might look a lot like her. If you're experiencing hair loss you will want to also talk to your HRT provider about a finasteride based medication to kill dihydrotestosterone, the bi-product of testosterone that kills off the hair follicles on one's head. The standard T blockers don't do that on their own.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: karina13 on September 14, 2014, 02:15:30 PM
Post by: karina13 on September 14, 2014, 02:15:30 PM
Quote from: sororcaeli on September 14, 2014, 01:02:17 PM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10647081_10154590454915253_3329875819478940827_n.jpg?oh=9804e9efbc9fe8c8510143a37d020fe6&oe=54836BCF&__gda__=1419488666_4f9003ff9f8467bca8a5b3b12270ed70) (https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10649876_10154590467255253_6997934467160143340_n.jpg?oh=546275d7731fc0a000acb3a00bc7cec7&oe=54919E3B&__gda__=1419420461_8097bb794bb720df367ee5826eba931c)
Do you think it's something I'll be able to pull off?
Totally, girl! Rockin' it!! <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on September 14, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
Post by: ana1111 on September 14, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
so how well do I pass be brutally honest.... (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140907_163414_zps26db1611.jpg&hash=752681f4c1f1743a14c36f55ffb816b32ec6a2b8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174745_zps33ab15ab.jpg&hash=e6a9cd81b2739356766029996873e73ea0da2bc2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174743_zps046f37c6.jpg&hash=61dba8293f82062081e26a140e7a3e01b0b0806e)
last pic no makeup and messy hairy... eww..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140914_142642_zpsa1b025a7.jpg&hash=e1230d73c8d4f06eabfb49a3d70bd77ee0ead17d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174745_zps33ab15ab.jpg&hash=e6a9cd81b2739356766029996873e73ea0da2bc2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174743_zps046f37c6.jpg&hash=61dba8293f82062081e26a140e7a3e01b0b0806e)
last pic no makeup and messy hairy... eww..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140914_142642_zpsa1b025a7.jpg&hash=e1230d73c8d4f06eabfb49a3d70bd77ee0ead17d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 02:32:56 PM
Quote from: karina13 on September 14, 2014, 02:15:30 PM
Totally, girl! Rockin' it!! <3
hay hay hay :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 14, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 14, 2014, 02:37:36 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on September 14, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
so how well do I pass be brutally honest.... (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140907_163414_zps26db1611.jpg&hash=752681f4c1f1743a14c36f55ffb816b32ec6a2b8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174745_zps33ab15ab.jpg&hash=e6a9cd81b2739356766029996873e73ea0da2bc2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174743_zps046f37c6.jpg&hash=61dba8293f82062081e26a140e7a3e01b0b0806e)
last pic no makeup and messy hairy... eww..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140914_142642_zpsa1b025a7.jpg&hash=e1230d73c8d4f06eabfb49a3d70bd77ee0ead17d)
Looking 100% CIS without a shadow of a doubt :D Utterly brilliant photos x
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ana1111 on September 14, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
Post by: ana1111 on September 14, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
ive been told that by many people on the web and from friends in person too but why is it then that some people aren't surprised when I tell them im trans and some say they already knew ... im only 5 foot eight one hundred fifty pounds, 29 inch waist, 38 inch hips, no muscles, small frame... I don't get it! Im really suspecting its my voice though as its still far from perfect... I can post a video where im talking if people wanna see..
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 14, 2014, 02:52:12 PM
Post by: Danielle Jayne on September 14, 2014, 02:52:12 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on September 14, 2014, 02:43:21 PM
ive been told that by many people on the web and from friends in person too but why is it then that some people aren't surprised when I tell them im trans and some say they already knew ... im only 5 foot eight one hundred fifty pounds, 29 inch waist, 38 inch hips, no muscles, small frame... I don't get it! Im really suspecting its my voice though as its still far from perfect... I can post a video where im talking if people wanna see..
Quote from: Danielle Jayne on September 14, 2014, 02:50:41 PM
I've got similar issues where I'm fine the majority of the time but the occasional person will know and I've been considering getting facial feminization as it's something that I'm conscious of in my jawline. I'll show a few pics here that showcase what I mean :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fj5imux.jpg&hash=5199cf004be344ee4476339ce36b8dc332fcb5ce)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2yy2o2d.jpg&hash=d5a65d7f42a52088423c8c5ff8a4f6314ebd5056)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2Fapd2xv.jpg&hash=c6bf9ab5d2d8667705a8a2a8b60ff0b18c52b3c7)
I think that you don't have much of anything to worry about :D xx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 07:15:15 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on September 14, 2014, 02:43:21 PMHow is your confidence in yourself hun. As far as looks you look beautiful. Confidence in ones self tho along with manurisms play the majority role in passing. Even if your voice is less than perfect, if your confident in yourself and present well with your manurisms especially as good as you look you should have no trouble passing.
ive been told that by many people on the web and from friends in person too but why is it then that some people aren't surprised when I tell them im trans and some say they already knew ... im only 5 foot eight one hundred fifty pounds, 29 inch waist, 38 inch hips, no muscles, small frame... I don't get it! Im really suspecting its my voice though as its still far from perfect... I can post a video where im talking if people wanna see..
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
I posted a different pic awhile back and most people said that I have some good features but i don't quite pass. well heres another pick I trimmed eyebrows and wore a little make-up.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628584_335414636641082_734635102574134182_n.jpg?oh=114becadbaae0de8c43971a50894f124&oe=549D768F)
if I didn't have a slight 5 o'clock shadow would I pass.
ps this is also pre-hrt!
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628584_335414636641082_734635102574134182_n.jpg?oh=114becadbaae0de8c43971a50894f124&oe=549D768F)
if I didn't have a slight 5 o'clock shadow would I pass.
ps this is also pre-hrt!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Pre-HRT everything for me. This was from last night after going out shopping with my SO.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2mdqlat.jpg&hash=603666563b0237b0412126132766e31187ef49b3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2r7qz5s.jpg&hash=2e5ff5009cfce9733cd952544f600ff6c2723ecd)
Thoughts?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2mdqlat.jpg&hash=603666563b0237b0412126132766e31187ef49b3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2r7qz5s.jpg&hash=2e5ff5009cfce9733cd952544f600ff6c2723ecd)
Thoughts?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:30:10 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
I posted a different pic awhile back and most people said that I have some good features but i don't quite pass. well heres another pick I trimmed eyebrows and wore a little make-up.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628584_335414636641082_734635102574134182_n.jpg?oh=114becadbaae0de8c43971a50894f124&oe=549D768F)
if I didn't have a slight 5 o'clock shadow would I pass.
ps this is also pre-hrt!
Amber,
I think it is really hard to say whenever there is shadow involved. Do you happen to have some concealer/foundation/powder? Because I am just starting out, I have bad shadow, but I have a nice regimen of shave, primer, orange concealer over shadow, foundation, powder. My shadow is actually pretty bad without this for now, so I'm convinced it most people can hide it if done correctly. The other thing that might help is blowdry your hair.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
Quote from: Annabolton on September 14, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
so how well do I pass be brutally honest.... (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140907_163414_zps26db1611.jpg&hash=752681f4c1f1743a14c36f55ffb816b32ec6a2b8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174745_zps33ab15ab.jpg&hash=e6a9cd81b2739356766029996873e73ea0da2bc2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174743_zps046f37c6.jpg&hash=61dba8293f82062081e26a140e7a3e01b0b0806e)
last pic no makeup and messy hairy... eww..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140914_142642_zpsa1b025a7.jpg&hash=e1230d73c8d4f06eabfb49a3d70bd77ee0ead17d)
being brutally honest.... you are freaking beautiful! lol you definitely pass. I guess it wasn't exactly brutal;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:38:11 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:34:39 PM
being brutally honest.... you are freaking beautiful! lol you definitely pass. I guess it wasn't exactly brutal;)
I second this ^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:39:21 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Pre-HRT everything for me. This was from last night after going out shopping with my SO.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2mdqlat.jpg&hash=603666563b0237b0412126132766e31187ef49b3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2r7qz5s.jpg&hash=2e5ff5009cfce9733cd952544f600ff6c2723ecd)
Thoughts?
I think you pass! you look very feminine!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:41:00 PM
Thank you! Honestly I think something weird is going on with me from birth. I definitely want to see you get some mmore makeup and cover that shadow up for us Amber.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:30:10 PMI have some concealer and foundation but I am wearing it in the photo and the shadow is still there:(. I am going to go to maceys and see if they can help me.
Amber,
I think it is really hard to say whenever there is shadow involved. Do you happen to have some concealer/foundation/powder? Because I am just starting out, I have bad shadow, but I have a nice regimen of shave, primer, orange concealer over shadow, foundation, powder. My shadow is actually pretty bad without this for now, so I'm convinced it most people can hide it if done correctly. The other thing that might help is blowdry your hair.
As far as blow drying my hair I try to avoid blow dryers, straighteners, and curling irons because they damage hair. I want to grow it out more.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:52:47 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:45:18 PM
I have some concealer and foundation but I am wearing it in the photo and the shadow is still there:(. I am going to go to maceys and see if they can help me.
As far as blow drying my hair I try to avoid blow dryers, straighteners, and curling irons because they damage hair. I want to grow it out more.
Amber,
I believe I can help you rid the shadow. Yours seems much less than mine. First you gotta develop your shaving techniques.
* Take a long warm shower
* Put some shaving lotion on your face and let it sit for a few minutes
* Rub the cream on against the grain
* Shave with the grain and stretch the skin to get closer
* On the second pass, rub the cream on against the grain to get hairs standing up
* Apply a thin layer of primer
* Apply bright orange concealer or even red lipstick only on the ssahdow
* Use a thin layer of foundation over this, apply with a brush
* Gently tap or roll some powder on
This seems to work wonders for me. I totally understand not wanting to damage hair. You might try just a little blow drying and combing, but just not so much it will damage it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 08:09:08 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:52:47 PMthanks these tips I think will really help!
Amber,
I believe I can help you rid the shadow. Yours seems much less than mine. First you gotta develop your shaving techniques.
* Take a long warm shower
* Put some shaving lotion on your face and let it sit for a few minutes
* Rub the cream on against the grain
* Shave with the grain and stretch the skin to get closer
* On the second pass, rub the cream on against the grain to get hairs standing up
* Apply a thin layer of primer
* Apply bright orange concealer or even red lipstick only on the ssahdow
* Use a thin layer of foundation over this, apply with a brush
* Gently tap or roll some powder on
This seems to work wonders for me. I totally understand not wanting to damage hair. You might try just a little blow drying and combing, but just not so much it will damage it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 08:30:56 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 14, 2014, 08:30:56 PM
Annabolton — Helloooo, nurse! :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 14, 2014, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:18:02 PMNot bad at all for pre hrt. You have nice features for hrt to do it's magic with. I love your hair also but styling it a little would do wonders. I realize you don't much care for heat producing styling devices, but sometimes they are necessary to achieve the results we desire.
I posted a different pic awhile back and most people said that I have some good features but i don't quite pass. well heres another pick I trimmed eyebrows and wore a little make-up.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628584_335414636641082_734635102574134182_n.jpg?oh=114becadbaae0de8c43971a50894f124&oe=549D768F)
if I didn't have a slight 5 o'clock shadow would I pass.
ps this is also pre-hrt!
I'll leave the shadow alone cause you've already gotten some great advice about how to conceal it.
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TashaEve on September 15, 2014, 04:47:32 AM
Post by: TashaEve on September 15, 2014, 04:47:32 AM
Hi everyone.
I'm losing my perspective recently and I can't tell if I'm passing. I am pretty much full time outside of work but I'm not sure if people are just being nice.
I've been on HRT for about 7 months now. About to go fulltime at work. Need to know if I'm just making a fool of myself.
2011, pre HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO5Ll7uul.jpg&hash=095f8467b0ffb59f14af512e9755087220c49296)
May 2014, 3 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FpL1ot3d.jpg&hash=6393d4829c2195c916b819483d49a8372c781eb6)
July 2014, 4.5 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Few1qixD.jpg&hash=8e90ecc489e7cf8fc714d1389bd5bdf17f91a117)
End of August 2014, 6 months HRT (Apologies for the much LOVED scarf):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSMhl54f.jpg&hash=47e1c57c4d04c078da3ece42e9d9fbedd6d24a30)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FJEaFfV7.jpg&hash=77aa8ac1f564863d7072d7fb23f555e6ca2e743e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F7zMTMxY.jpg&hash=70005d93235ee764c3f77a695d70083ed8e9521c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FmQjZQol.jpg&hash=1787b34a3ac731239ff9d744b8446481dca19a71)
I'm losing my perspective recently and I can't tell if I'm passing. I am pretty much full time outside of work but I'm not sure if people are just being nice.
I've been on HRT for about 7 months now. About to go fulltime at work. Need to know if I'm just making a fool of myself.
2011, pre HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO5Ll7uul.jpg&hash=095f8467b0ffb59f14af512e9755087220c49296)
May 2014, 3 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FpL1ot3d.jpg&hash=6393d4829c2195c916b819483d49a8372c781eb6)
July 2014, 4.5 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Few1qixD.jpg&hash=8e90ecc489e7cf8fc714d1389bd5bdf17f91a117)
End of August 2014, 6 months HRT (Apologies for the much LOVED scarf):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSMhl54f.jpg&hash=47e1c57c4d04c078da3ece42e9d9fbedd6d24a30)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FJEaFfV7.jpg&hash=77aa8ac1f564863d7072d7fb23f555e6ca2e743e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F7zMTMxY.jpg&hash=70005d93235ee764c3f77a695d70083ed8e9521c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FmQjZQol.jpg&hash=1787b34a3ac731239ff9d744b8446481dca19a71)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:25:26 AM
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:25:26 AM
Quote from: TashaEve on September 15, 2014, 04:47:32 AM
Hi everyone.
I'm losing my perspective recently and I can't tell if I'm passing. I am pretty much full time outside of work but I'm not sure if people are just being nice.
I've been on HRT for about 7 months now. About to go fulltime at work. Need to know if I'm just making a fool of myself.
2011, pre HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO5Ll7uul.jpg&hash=095f8467b0ffb59f14af512e9755087220c49296)
May 2014, 3 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FpL1ot3d.jpg&hash=6393d4829c2195c916b819483d49a8372c781eb6)
July 2014, 4.5 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Few1qixD.jpg&hash=8e90ecc489e7cf8fc714d1389bd5bdf17f91a117)
End of August 2014, 6 months HRT (Apologies for the much LOVED scarf):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSMhl54f.jpg&hash=47e1c57c4d04c078da3ece42e9d9fbedd6d24a30)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FJEaFfV7.jpg&hash=77aa8ac1f564863d7072d7fb23f555e6ca2e743e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F7zMTMxY.jpg&hash=70005d93235ee764c3f77a695d70083ed8e9521c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FmQjZQol.jpg&hash=1787b34a3ac731239ff9d744b8446481dca19a71)
Um what's the issue? :D you look fantastic! Amazing what hormones can do! Wow. Gives me even more inspiration to get started asap.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:27:09 AM
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:27:09 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 14, 2014, 07:18:02 PM
I posted a different pic awhile back and most people said that I have some good features but i don't quite pass. well heres another pick I trimmed eyebrows and wore a little make-up.
(https://scontent-b-ord.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10628584_335414636641082_734635102574134182_n.jpg?oh=114becadbaae0de8c43971a50894f124&oe=549D768F)
if I didn't have a slight 5 o'clock shadow would I pass.
ps this is also pre-hrt!
You have a nice face, hrt should do you quite nicely.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:28:44 AM
Post by: Starla on September 15, 2014, 06:28:44 AM
Quote from: Deinewelt on September 14, 2014, 07:24:16 PM
Pre-HRT everything for me. This was from last night after going out shopping with my SO.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2mdqlat.jpg&hash=603666563b0237b0412126132766e31187ef49b3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2r7qz5s.jpg&hash=2e5ff5009cfce9733cd952544f600ff6c2723ecd)
Thoughts?
Cute! I wonder what you would look like with longer hair though. Not saying it's needed, just curiosity on my part :D love your top!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 15, 2014, 07:05:30 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 15, 2014, 07:05:30 AM
Quote from: TashaEve on September 15, 2014, 04:47:32 AM
Hi everyone.
I'm losing my perspective recently and I can't tell if I'm passing. I am pretty much full time outside of work but I'm not sure if people are just being nice.
I've been on HRT for about 7 months now. About to go fulltime at work. Need to know if I'm just making a fool of myself.
2011, pre HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FO5Ll7uul.jpg&hash=095f8467b0ffb59f14af512e9755087220c49296)
May 2014, 3 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FpL1ot3d.jpg&hash=6393d4829c2195c916b819483d49a8372c781eb6)
July 2014, 4.5 months HRT:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2Few1qixD.jpg&hash=8e90ecc489e7cf8fc714d1389bd5bdf17f91a117)
End of August 2014, 6 months HRT (Apologies for the much LOVED scarf):
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FSMhl54f.jpg&hash=47e1c57c4d04c078da3ece42e9d9fbedd6d24a30)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FJEaFfV7.jpg&hash=77aa8ac1f564863d7072d7fb23f555e6ca2e743e)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2F7zMTMxY.jpg&hash=70005d93235ee764c3f77a695d70083ed8e9521c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimgur.com%2FmQjZQol.jpg&hash=1787b34a3ac731239ff9d744b8446481dca19a71)
To be honest, I cannot see how You would be able to pass as a male :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: secret on September 15, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
Post by: secret on September 15, 2014, 11:56:39 AM
Quote from: Annabolton on September 14, 2014, 02:27:04 PM
so how well do I pass be brutally honest.... (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140907_163414_zps26db1611.jpg&hash=752681f4c1f1743a14c36f55ffb816b32ec6a2b8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174745_zps33ab15ab.jpg&hash=e6a9cd81b2739356766029996873e73ea0da2bc2)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140905_174743_zps046f37c6.jpg&hash=61dba8293f82062081e26a140e7a3e01b0b0806e)
last pic no makeup and messy hairy... eww..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi100.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm37%2FAnna_Bolton%2FWIN_20140914_142642_zpsa1b025a7.jpg&hash=e1230d73c8d4f06eabfb49a3d70bd77ee0ead17d)
Sure, you can pass! Even without makeup and messy hair ...Don't worry ;-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on September 15, 2014, 12:11:28 PM
Post by: Leila on September 15, 2014, 12:11:28 PM
10 months into HRT. Do I pass without make up?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg)
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 15, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 15, 2014, 12:13:44 PM
Quote from: Leila on September 15, 2014, 12:11:28 PMVery much so I think. You look great. :)
10 months into HRT. Do I pass without make up?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Laurelin on September 15, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Post by: Laurelin on September 15, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Me with zero effort with my natural state, my mother took this when I was watching TV
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY8rWZgJ.jpg&hash=a2ea87d20d3c34613b60f0994ddaef7e22d53650)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY8rWZgJ.jpg&hash=a2ea87d20d3c34613b60f0994ddaef7e22d53650)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 15, 2014, 04:20:54 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 15, 2014, 04:20:54 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on September 15, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Me with zero effort with my natural state, my mother took this when I was watching TV
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY8rWZgJ.jpg&hash=a2ea87d20d3c34613b60f0994ddaef7e22d53650)
Laurelin, You are cute :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on September 15, 2014, 04:52:51 PM
Post by: stephaniec on September 15, 2014, 04:52:51 PM
Quote from: Leila on September 15, 2014, 12:11:28 PMyes
10 months into HRT. Do I pass without make up?
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg (http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e3/iam_leila/Susans/20140912_182309ab_zpsc7567d4a.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 15, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 15, 2014, 05:00:53 PM
Quote from: Laurelin on September 15, 2014, 04:04:27 PM
Me with zero effort with my natural state, my mother took this when I was watching TV
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY8rWZgJ.jpg&hash=a2ea87d20d3c34613b60f0994ddaef7e22d53650)
Sweet!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 16, 2014, 02:32:44 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 16, 2014, 02:32:44 AM
Quote from: Laurelin on September 15, 2014, 04:04:27 PMYour very pretty in your natural state Laurelin. Love your dress. It looks very good on you.
Me with zero effort with my natural state, my mother took this when I was watching TV
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FY8rWZgJ.jpg&hash=a2ea87d20d3c34613b60f0994ddaef7e22d53650)
Ally :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
Post by: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq601%2Fleahisakitty%2FDress1_zps45f5dd1a.jpg&hash=e31ff416960074c7e6d5e6a3fd8ceef1c37fdf78)
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 16, 2014, 04:41:39 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 16, 2014, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq601%2Fleahisakitty%2FDress1_zps45f5dd1a.jpg&hash=e31ff416960074c7e6d5e6a3fd8ceef1c37fdf78)
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
From all appearances you do, though I get the impression you are covering up a possibly really noticeable Adam's apple in both your avatar photo and this one which would out you right away. Something you'd want to get fixed first.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ElDudette on September 17, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
Post by: ElDudette on September 17, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 17, 2014, 02:26:30 AM
Not exactly MtF - but do I pass as transwoman (or soft butch)?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FuXYGznd.jpg&hash=2e65e25cc5f8236a0cce2bbce606dbc55e2c499a)
I'd say soft butch, but by no means as a slight. If i passed you on the street i'd be none the wiser.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 03:55:12 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 03:55:12 AM
Quote from: ElDudette on September 17, 2014, 03:30:44 AM
I'd say soft butch, but by no means as a slight. If i passed you on the street i'd be none the wiser.
Ummm, ok, my english was not up to that :). Means, that outfit sends a strong butch vibe? ??? /puzzled/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on September 17, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
Post by: V M on September 17, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
My first reaction is "Woman at a ski resort" (Sieviete pie slēpošanas kūrorta) I hope the translation is correct
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:46:05 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:46:05 AM
Quote from: V M on September 17, 2014, 06:21:05 AM
My first reaction is "Woman at a ski resort" (Sieviete pie slēpošanas kūrorta) I hope the translation is correct
Awww, I am busted :). Damn those IPs :D. One of main issues with google translate - it translates very technically, so that translation is grammatically correct but it has totally different meaning now :) - "woman who is [standing] next to entrance of ski resort" :). It should be "sieviete slēpošanas kūrortā" :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on September 17, 2014, 07:26:44 AM
Post by: V M on September 17, 2014, 07:26:44 AM
Right on 8) At least it was close enough to be somewhat understandable :) I have always held a fascination for different cultures and languages of people all over the world
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 07:40:24 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 07:40:24 AM
Quote from: V M on September 17, 2014, 07:26:44 AM
Right on 8) At least it was close enough to be somewhat understandable :) I have always held a fascination for different cultures and languages of people all over the world
Amazing, isn't it? And once You show them that You have made an effort to learn something of their culture or language, it opens up a whole new degree of acceptance :).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Boo Stew on September 17, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Post by: Boo Stew on September 17, 2014, 12:46:10 PM
Quote from: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq601%2Fleahisakitty%2FDress1_zps45f5dd1a.jpg&hash=e31ff416960074c7e6d5e6a3fd8ceef1c37fdf78)
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
I wasn't out of the closet in college so I missed out on a lot. You're already out and on the way (and looking good.) I wouldn't let "passing" stop you from going full time. I have to imagine that college is probably the safest environment for this kind of freedom of personal expression. It's where kids go to experiment, broaden their world view and find themselves.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Maleth on September 17, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
Post by: Maleth on September 17, 2014, 04:02:25 PM
Quote from: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq601%2Fleahisakitty%2FDress1_zps45f5dd1a.jpg&hash=e31ff416960074c7e6d5e6a3fd8ceef1c37fdf78)
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
IMO you look super cute and pass!! Congrats on the HRT :) Don't be afraid to be yourself!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on September 17, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on September 17, 2014, 04:10:25 PM
Quote from: Leah443 on September 16, 2014, 04:20:07 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1166.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq601%2Fleahisakitty%2FDress1_zps45f5dd1a.jpg&hash=e31ff416960074c7e6d5e6a3fd8ceef1c37fdf78)
Wondering because I wanna go full time at my college but i want to know if i pass. Btw I'm only 7 months HRT
Damn you're so skinny i'm so jealous lol, I would use hair extentions te clip in don't damage your hair.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lostkitten on September 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
Post by: Lostkitten on September 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
I want to try this as well D:!
I am pre-HRT, starting in November :D! The picture with earrings in is for when I am with friends/at home, to shy to go out already with big earrings drawing attention > _ <. The others is how I go trough my daily life :D.
Thing is that I am afraid to use a feminine voice at the moment because people will just look at me with a wtf face why a feminine guy would use a woman's voice x_x.
Now I hope these images won't look gigantic.. I don't know how to change that x____x
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FPhotoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg&hash=7ac763644cb2c74f5468e1ca3d8582d95e43cac6) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Photoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FIMG_5204_zpsa95cddc3.jpg&hash=1006322cc9f9fa97e721754f9130958f703074ab) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/IMG_5204_zpsa95cddc3.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FIMG_IPAD1_zps789720a9.jpg&hash=cb0168a682d694163b9e7f822b26c830d51a89c4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/IMG_IPAD1_zps789720a9.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FFacebook_zps6317522d.jpg&hash=808e5da29b5219f78b42c45249c9ebb9cc372ed4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Facebook_zps6317522d.jpg.html)
I am pre-HRT, starting in November :D! The picture with earrings in is for when I am with friends/at home, to shy to go out already with big earrings drawing attention > _ <. The others is how I go trough my daily life :D.
Thing is that I am afraid to use a feminine voice at the moment because people will just look at me with a wtf face why a feminine guy would use a woman's voice x_x.
Now I hope these images won't look gigantic.. I don't know how to change that x____x
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FPhotoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg&hash=7ac763644cb2c74f5468e1ca3d8582d95e43cac6) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Photoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg.html)
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(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FFacebook_zps6317522d.jpg&hash=808e5da29b5219f78b42c45249c9ebb9cc372ed4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Facebook_zps6317522d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 04:24:01 PM
Kirey, I like Your style - it suits You very well :). And HRT is going to make You drop-dead gorgeous, mind my words :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:21:45 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:21:45 PM
One of the first pictures I ever took when I first realized that I was trans a year and a half ago or so... I've gotten much, much better at make-up. I just sort of smeared it on at that point. I honestly wasn't trying to look trampy or anything, but it ended up that way... I know, I know. The shirts lifted because I wanted to see how wide my upper rib cage looked. Turtlenecks seem to make you look broader. The corset didn't really do all that much either. It was pretty loose and jumping all over the place. When I'm 145lbs or lower I'm basically shaped like that, almost. I was probably 155 there, no HRT yet... and still no HRT :-\ I'm hoping with staying at a lower weight, hrt, and waist training I can keep the shape. Mostly I just have no other pics and I don't feel like shaving and everything to take new ones right now. I hate having facial hair, but I hate shaving too often. I have really sensitive skin and it cut's easy. Probably starting electrolysis next week, and HRT :) Do I pass in that pic/do my hands look huge? I think this is the 1st time I've showed my full body and height, granted a little obscured by the corset, but basically it didn't do much, use your imagination as far as how my stomach/waist looks. Again, sorry for the trampish looking pic, but it was pretty early on in my realizing I was trans. I was still in that over dramatic posing phase...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Quote from: paula lesley on September 17, 2014, 04:33:17 PM
You look very female :) Soft Butch ???
English is not my first language ;)
Tnx, Paula :) And soft butch apparently is a lesbian sub-group who like to dress up more andro than masculine and dont cut their hair too short (I am quite ignorant with regard to lesbian culture, so my apologies if I said something stupid or insensitive, or both).
@TheQuestion
YOU DO LOOK FINE! And now please stop obsessing about details (cause that's were devil is). Your hands ARE NOT big. Your eyebrows and facial features (as much as can be distinguished) are quite delicate. Your waist and middle body... I have the same issue and I am not even close to being 155 lbs. You wanted some criticism? OK - I am quite sure that in due time You will find and and improve Your individual style, but we all start somewhere. And horizontal stripes will always make You look broader - it's not the turtleneck, its them stripes. Turtleneck, in its turn, can make Your jawline to stand out and for some transwomen this will cause an issue (jawline and chin-wise). Not Your case, as much as I can see...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:23:25 PM
All of you who have posted since the last time I posted in here look REALLY good BTW.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lostkitten on September 17, 2014, 05:25:28 PM
Post by: Lostkitten on September 17, 2014, 05:25:28 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 17, 2014, 05:22:23 PM
Tnx, Paula :) And soft butch apparently is a lesbian sub-group who like to dress up more andro than masculine and dont cut their hair too short (I am quite ignorant with regard to lesbian culture, so my apologies if I said something stupid or insensitive, or both).
You look so much alike with a female friend of mine.. it is almost scary.. o.o. Like, the first time your avatar popped up I wondered what was going on here :P. I believe you had a close up of your face till today or so o.o?
Just realized you replied to my photos, thank you :D!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:25:52 PM
Emily, if your going for andro then you totally got it, but I'd say you could easily do full female if you wanted. I'd think you were just a sporty woman if you passed me by.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:33:34 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:33:34 PM
Yes, I have clones everywhere - male, female and feline alike :D My previous avi had a close-up, indeed, but I grew tired of that ugly mug and I had changed a bit too ever since I took that pic...
TheQuestion - I just modified one of my previous messages to address Your picture :).
And yes, I might try a more female look, but I do have my own issues which prevent me at the moment. I am fine by myself, but whenever I am next to genetic woman, I would dwarf her with my bulk immediately.
TheQuestion - I just modified one of my previous messages to address Your picture :).
And yes, I might try a more female look, but I do have my own issues which prevent me at the moment. I am fine by myself, but whenever I am next to genetic woman, I would dwarf her with my bulk immediately.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:38:15 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:38:15 PM
Thanks Emily, I took that pic down though, it looked trashy. I don't really like presenting myself like that. I'll do it again with a little more of a conservative look eventually. That's good to know about the stripes. I've been wearing stripes almost exclusively, literally the only two women's tops that I own are striped.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
and don't worry, I'd likely dwarf you if we stood next to one another.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:39:29 PM
and don't worry, I'd likely dwarf you if we stood next to one another.
I am 5'9", 72 kilos, 38 band and can do two pull-ups, 25 push-ups and pull off really mean stare.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:51:08 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 05:51:08 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 17, 2014, 05:42:04 PM
I am 5'9", 72 kilos, 38 band and can do two pull-ups, 25 push-ups and pull off really mean stare.
I'm 6'0", 38 band (maybe the smallest I can get), range from 135lbs-160lbs (bout 150lbs right now - 70.30kilos), can do a TON of pull-ups and can do 100 consecutive push-ups (probably down to 50 or so since I haven't been doing them for about a year) and staring or not you really wouldn't want to mess with me based on how athletic I look. I'm literally a freak athlete. I'm jealous of your bulk.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
Oh, my shoulder are somewhere in 16" 3/4 and judging from their looks there is not much to loose anymore. I still have over the top trapezius and upper back muscles (I used to lift 32 kilos single-handed with 12-13 reps). I can also store a lot of air, puff and look one size bigger :D.
But dont You worry that much - HRT will do a lot to Your bulk, except it might take some time. About 1.5 years ago I was like this http://i.imgur.com/6XRo3zY.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/6XRo3zY.jpg) now I am not even close to that. Except from the attitude...
But dont You worry that much - HRT will do a lot to Your bulk, except it might take some time. About 1.5 years ago I was like this http://i.imgur.com/6XRo3zY.jpg (http://i.imgur.com/6XRo3zY.jpg) now I am not even close to that. Except from the attitude...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:03:33 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 17, 2014, 05:56:26 PM
Oh, my shoulder are somewhere in 16" 3/4 and judging from their looks there is not much to loose anymore. I still have over the top trapezius and upper back muscles (I used to lift 32 kilos single-handed with 12-13 reps). I can also store a lot of air, puff and look one size bigger :D.
Mine are almost 17.5" across with not much to loose and I have pro wrestler traps and back muscles and I use to bench about 114 kilos (with both hands granted). Trust me, you've likely got nothing on me, and that's great for you. If everyone on this site were thrown into a cage and asked to fight it out, I'd say that I'd be a big problem for basically everyone on here. I literally could have played professional baseball, or at least had a chance at playing semi-pro if I hadn't stopped in college. I'm like really, really, really decorated in a number of sports and that totally sucks. I'm thin, but I'm pure muscle and just hoping it all softens up.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:05:06 PM
I've read shoulders on an average female are about 17-17.5" though, so I'm not too concerned about mine and you totally should be concerned about your. Being taller than average we'd have broader than average shoulders for a woman anyway.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:08:26 PM
Those muscles will soften up - it just takes a lot of time and patience and low-proteine diet :). I posted a linkie in my previous reply so You might get the idea. I was not particularly bulky - around 82 kilos - but most of that were muscles. I once had a misunderstanding which ended with some grappling and it took 5 guys to pin me down and hold there, cause I got really upset and angry :D.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
Yeah, I'm about to drop down to about 61 kilos to start HRT. I stay all muscle, but they do get really small. Hoping once the get smaller through weight loss and I begin HRT that they'll have a hard time building back up and soften at a smaller size. I'm really hoping my traps and back muscles go down, along with the muscle down the sides of my rib cage. I hope I can get down to a 36 band.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Post by: Sammy on September 17, 2014, 06:14:01 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on September 17, 2014, 06:12:04 PM
Yeah, I'm about to drop down to about 61 kilos to start HRT. I stay all muscle, but they do get really small. Hoping once the get smaller through weight loss and I begin HRT that they'll have a hard time building back up and soften at a smaller size. I'm really hoping my traps and back muscles go down, along with the muscle down the sides of my rib cage. I hope I can get down to a 36 band.
That sounds like a perfect plan! Upper arms will thin out first and traps and back muscles... I am still struggling with those areas in 16 months of HRT, but I was 69 kilos when I started HRT (just could not wait any longer) - if I knew, I would have waited till I was 65.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ElDudette on September 17, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
Post by: ElDudette on September 17, 2014, 06:23:46 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on September 17, 2014, 03:55:12 AM
Ummm, ok, my english was not up to that :). Means, that outfit sends a strong butch vibe? ??? /puzzled/
My apologies, English is too flexible some times, when it comes to word meanings... In this case "slight" meant "to offend". I was attempting to say you look butch but in a positive way (you look good), since "butch" is often used as a degrading term in America.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 17, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 17, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Quote from: Kirey on September 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
I want to try this as well D:!
I am pre-HRT, starting in November :D! The picture with earrings in is for when I am with friends/at home, to shy to go out already with big earrings drawing attention > _ <. The others is how I go trough my daily life :D.
Thing is that I am afraid to use a feminine voice at the moment because people will just look at me with a wtf face why a feminine guy would use a woman's voice x_x.
Now I hope these images won't look gigantic.. I don't know how to change that x____x
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FPhotoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg&hash=7ac763644cb2c74f5468e1ca3d8582d95e43cac6) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Photoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg.html)
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Hun you already look great. Earrings aside, Is that you usual style? if so its awesome that you already feel so comfortable presenting your self in such a feminine way...
Im kinda jealous of your fashion sense! You are going to be an absolute stunner after you start hormones good for you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leah443 on September 17, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Post by: Leah443 on September 17, 2014, 08:14:38 PM
Thanks to everyone who replied. It really boosted my confidence :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 17, 2014, 08:22:04 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 17, 2014, 08:22:04 PM
Emily, I think you pass as female to me. The progress from the before picture is very compelling! I've had very good control over my weight just by controlling my diet extremely well. Usually I just drink lots of water when I'm hungry to fight off hunger and eat small amounts of food throughout the day.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
Latest batch of photos what do we think. I'm going to get a fringe (bangs), but right now after a year of heavy bleaching on the front it is in some need of tlc before we atempt a style that will stay
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 02:14:18 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 02:14:18 AM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 01:45:27 AM
Latest batch of photos what do we think. I'm going to get a fringe (bangs), but right now after a year of heavy bleaching on the front it is in some need of tlc before we atempt a style that will stay
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20140917_170917_zpsd226ffed.jpg&hash=86b95c414e2fda7b8c6be782956729ffa2bb2b2a)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1279.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fy534%2Fimmortalgypsy%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20140917_192045_zps2a10c7f8.jpg&hash=6770d238337745dc2d9e17d12130a4480654aea9)
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Ummm, those are a bit tricky, gypsy :). Tbh, I would say that You look totally andro and if I met You (sans makeup) on the street, I would have quite hard time to figure out Your gender. You are extremely lucky in terms of Your very feminine build, and then there are some small details which make the confusion. Firstly, I think it's Your glasses. They sent the first question mark to my brain. Second, its Your posture and facial expression. I know this sounds chauvinistic, but relax and smile, dammit! :) Beard shadow does not need any comments, but that is fixable. And yep, I would say - give those hormones some more time to soften up Your features and You will pass without any issues. Face-wise, I did not see any male gender markers either (but those shots were frontal anyway, so I have no idea what Your brow looks like) - yep, You do have some well defined facial muscles, but HRT regimen will melt those away.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 02:20:28 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 02:20:28 AM
@Deinewelt, thank You :). I know, I know... it's all about determination and will power. I am not like You - whenever I feel hungry, I prefer food over water and eat big amounts during day :)
@ElDudette
Gotcha! Now, I understand Your message - yep, English can be tricky at times, and I did not figure out that "slight" was used as noun instead of adjective. And it is always useful to know about cultural difference - I had no idea that "butch" is being used as insulting term in the US...
@ElDudette
Gotcha! Now, I understand Your message - yep, English can be tricky at times, and I did not figure out that "slight" was used as noun instead of adjective. And it is always useful to know about cultural difference - I had no idea that "butch" is being used as insulting term in the US...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 02:55:16 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 02:55:16 AM
@ Emily. Yeah it was probably not a good idea for me taking photos when I have been in a down mood. I have to smile at work, it is something I am struggling to do in my off hours when I'm not talking to people.
What do you mean about the glasses? The frames or the lenses. Frames are fixiable lenses I need to literaly see the world through "rose coloured glasses"
What do you mean about the glasses? The frames or the lenses. Frames are fixiable lenses I need to literaly see the world through "rose coloured glasses"
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 03:00:44 AM
Post by: Sammy on September 18, 2014, 03:00:44 AM
Quote from: immortal gypsy on September 18, 2014, 02:55:16 AM
@ Emily. Yeah it was probably not a good idea for me taking photos when I have been in a down mood. I have to smile at work, it is something I am struggling to do in my off hours when I'm not talking to people.
What do you mean about the glasses? The frames or the lenses. Frames are fixiable lenses I need to literaly see the world through "rose coloured glasses"
Sorry for not being clear enough - and those were frames, ofc :). And yeah, it could be literally sensed that You are quite down in terms of Your mood....
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on September 18, 2014, 04:27:47 AM
Post by: Damara on September 18, 2014, 04:27:47 AM
Hi all! This is such an encouraging and inspiring thread! I suppose I will post a photo of meself.. this is pre everything, just trying some "subtle" makeup in preparation for a day out in the not too distant future. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ftruth.jpg&hash=a87e77dddd92de7490704ad50f46b2454e654e4d) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/truth.jpg.html)
and here was a bit more dramatic.. ish
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2F10592775_10152414469902851_5206217331372374178_n.jpg&hash=f20d56c39c36e318e8aa2a81125ee2d7a658439a) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/10592775_10152414469902851_5206217331372374178_n.jpg.html)
eeep!
and here was a bit more dramatic.. ish
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2F10592775_10152414469902851_5206217331372374178_n.jpg&hash=f20d56c39c36e318e8aa2a81125ee2d7a658439a) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/10592775_10152414469902851_5206217331372374178_n.jpg.html)
eeep!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lostkitten on September 18, 2014, 04:37:49 AM
Post by: Lostkitten on September 18, 2014, 04:37:49 AM
Love the first picture :D! Might be silly to ask .. x___x but is that your own hair? If so, wah.. I want :o!
Thank you :D! Yupp I went for unisex at first and that kindaaa.. changed with time o.o. I do plan on changing it slightly though when I start hormones and pass better. It is also a little bit to play it on safe mode :P. Insecurities D:
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 17, 2014, 08:12:56 PM
Hun you already look great. Earrings aside, Is that you usual style? if so its awesome that you already feel so comfortable presenting your self in such a feminine way...
Im kinda jealous of your fashion sense! You are going to be an absolute stunner after you start hormones good for you.
Thank you :D! Yupp I went for unisex at first and that kindaaa.. changed with time o.o. I do plan on changing it slightly though when I start hormones and pass better. It is also a little bit to play it on safe mode :P. Insecurities D:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on September 18, 2014, 04:49:49 AM
Post by: Damara on September 18, 2014, 04:49:49 AM
Quote from: Kirey on September 18, 2014, 04:37:49 AM
Love the first picture :D! Might be silly to ask .. x___x but is that your own hair? If so, wah.. I want :o!
Thank you so much! ;D And yes it is! It was longer than this a bit over a year ago, then I let my family talk me into cutting it way shorter.. like a sort of bowl-ish cut. Bums me to think it'd be almost twice as long now if I'd not succumbed to my parents badgering. :eusa_wall:
And your hair is lovely!! Don't even be wanting mine! <3 It's very dandruff and frizz ridden.. although I actually like frizzy hair. haha!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 18, 2014, 06:58:06 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 18, 2014, 06:58:06 AM
Quote from: ASoulBird on September 18, 2014, 04:27:47 AM
Hi all! This is such an encouraging and inspiring thread! I suppose I will post a photo of meself.. this is pre everything, just trying some "subtle" makeup in preparation for a day out in the not too distant future. (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ftruth.jpg&hash=a87e77dddd92de7490704ad50f46b2454e654e4d) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/truth.jpg.html)
I would definitely say you pass. I love the make-up and your hair!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on September 18, 2014, 08:51:33 AM
Post by: trinityvause on September 18, 2014, 08:51:33 AM
Okay, so yesterday I got into an argument with this random person on Twitter. One of his friends told me I looked like a fat ugly man rat? Ever since then I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. The fat ugly rat part didn't hurt me, but when she said man I like collapsed inside. :( I don't know what to do, I know this might seem retarded. I don't know if she was just being hateful or serious. :(
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/10256590_231628287031812_3991947540672643458_n.jpg?oh=e45cb368bb4b6d6d1cc8a83c81613c28&oe=54860ECD&__gda__=1422262852_fc43655cab6796ccbb7c2447fecffe06) (https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-0/10156166_229554257239215_1271094246310259547_n.jpg?oh=a567bd99818136868cb3683413ba470e&oe=54CCE51B&__gda__=1418216874_d54cb843e8e1cafc55f253c12e893876)
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/10256590_231628287031812_3991947540672643458_n.jpg?oh=e45cb368bb4b6d6d1cc8a83c81613c28&oe=54860ECD&__gda__=1422262852_fc43655cab6796ccbb7c2447fecffe06) (https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-0/10156166_229554257239215_1271094246310259547_n.jpg?oh=a567bd99818136868cb3683413ba470e&oe=54CCE51B&__gda__=1418216874_d54cb843e8e1cafc55f253c12e893876)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: EchelonHunt on September 18, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Post by: EchelonHunt on September 18, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Quote from: trinityvause on September 18, 2014, 08:51:33 AM
Okay, so yesterday I got into an argument with this random person on Twitter. One of his friends told me I looked like a fat ugly man rat? Ever since then I haven't been able to stop thinking about it. The fat ugly rat part didn't hurt me, but when she said man I like collapsed inside. :( I don't know what to do, I know this might seem retarded. I don't know if she was just being hateful or serious. :(
(https://fbcdn-photos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfp1/v/t1.0-0/10256590_231628287031812_3991947540672643458_n.jpg?oh=e45cb368bb4b6d6d1cc8a83c81613c28&oe=54860ECD&__gda__=1422262852_fc43655cab6796ccbb7c2447fecffe06) (https://fbcdn-photos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-0/10156166_229554257239215_1271094246310259547_n.jpg?oh=a567bd99818136868cb3683413ba470e&oe=54CCE51B&__gda__=1418216874_d54cb843e8e1cafc55f253c12e893876)
Oh sweetie, don't listen to them! You look absolutely gorgeous and I do not see any sign of a "man" anywhere in those photos! You pass 110% to me! ;D
I am curious if I pass as female. It's the first time I've put on make-up and put on a wig that I have fallen in love with. I have short brown hair underneath but I definitely want to grow my hair out to the wig's length! Thank you~!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10665153_10152668464192708_8388304589970954900_n1_zps40a996e4.png&hash=aaac4fa7e9e181925b6f95e2730ba9ed5d629822)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10603236_10152668464407708_4349892554994639015_n1_zpsda71ffcf.png&hash=ab77f616b8186b87d00a385b0432ebcd7ad545bf)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10615594_10152668416022708_6703481786104193462_n1_zpsdf46ef2c.png&hash=9c96ecbd728b8a4f9b242b43dfb3c3a8759e0b98)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 18, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 18, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
No you dont look fat, ugly, and definately not like a man so smile! I think she was just being a bitch.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on September 18, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Post by: trinityvause on September 18, 2014, 02:12:17 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on September 18, 2014, 11:02:39 AM
No you dont look fat, ugly, and definately not like a man so smile! I think she was just being a bitch.
Quote from: EchelonHunt on September 18, 2014, 10:31:31 AM
Oh sweetie, don't listen to them! You look absolutely gorgeous and I do not see any sign of a "man" anywhere in those photos! You pass 110% to me! ;D
I am curious if I pass as female. It's the first time I've put on make-up and put on a wig that I have fallen in love with. I have short brown hair underneath but I definitely want to grow my hair out to the wig's length! Thank you~!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10665153_10152668464192708_8388304589970954900_n1_zps40a996e4.png&hash=aaac4fa7e9e181925b6f95e2730ba9ed5d629822)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10603236_10152668464407708_4349892554994639015_n1_zpsda71ffcf.png&hash=ab77f616b8186b87d00a385b0432ebcd7ad545bf)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi10.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fa105%2FAnAngelByMySide%2F10615594_10152668416022708_6703481786104193462_n1_zpsdf46ef2c.png&hash=9c96ecbd728b8a4f9b242b43dfb3c3a8759e0b98)
Thank you girls! It's been a rough day at school today and you two made me smile! You both are very beautiful women, and I definitely say you'd pass, EchelonHunt. :-)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jasriella on September 18, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Post by: Jasriella on September 18, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Well I made my first actual public outing a couple weeks ago. Went shopping with my mom and sister and I felt really awkward and out of place for a while and kept getting looks which really made me feel uneasy but in the end it was well worth it.
Not sure if it's passing but this was how I looked when I headed out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps191f2d93.jpg&hash=faabf2aaa63e973a5ab96126382695cd0ed3bf59) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps191f2d93.jpg.html)
Not sure if it's passing but this was how I looked when I headed out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps191f2d93.jpg&hash=faabf2aaa63e973a5ab96126382695cd0ed3bf59) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps191f2d93.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 18, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 18, 2014, 07:47:08 PM
Quote from: Jasriella on September 18, 2014, 07:04:41 PM
Well I made my first actual public outing a couple weeks ago. Went shopping with my mom and sister and I felt really awkward and out of place for a while and kept getting looks which really made me feel uneasy but in the end it was well worth it.
Not sure if it's passing but this was how I looked when I headed out.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe239%2Fgoldendragonlord%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2Fimage_zps191f2d93.jpg&hash=faabf2aaa63e973a5ab96126382695cd0ed3bf59) (http://s40.photobucket.com/user/goldendragonlord/media/Mobile%20Uploads/image_zps191f2d93.jpg.html)
Getting out the door is a big hump to get over, getting looks and feeling awkward is just part of the initiation. Once getting out is no big thing then you won't feel so intimidated and you won't project that to others. Glad you had a nice time, it's a big move for you hon, proud of you girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 19, 2014, 12:00:38 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 19, 2014, 12:00:38 AM
@Emily: You look fabulous hun. Very feme by what I see. But most important you look happy confident and content. And that by far outweighs anything else! :D
@Kirey: Hrt will be very kind to you hun. Your gonna be a knockout!
@Gypsey: You've a feminine body shape. Your right a better hairstyle will do you wonders. More feminine glasses/frames will help also. All in all you look great though.
@EchilonHunt: Your very pretty with lovely skin. Nice soft facial features. You look a lil like a young Meg Ryan.
@Trinity: You look totally feme with makeup, and you don't appear to be fat to me. This random person on Twitter prolly wishes they looked as good as you!
Ally :icon_flower:
@Kirey: Hrt will be very kind to you hun. Your gonna be a knockout!
@Gypsey: You've a feminine body shape. Your right a better hairstyle will do you wonders. More feminine glasses/frames will help also. All in all you look great though.
@EchilonHunt: Your very pretty with lovely skin. Nice soft facial features. You look a lil like a young Meg Ryan.
@Trinity: You look totally feme with makeup, and you don't appear to be fat to me. This random person on Twitter prolly wishes they looked as good as you!
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:15:39 PM
Post by: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:15:39 PM
Remembered my password to Dropbox and found hundreds of pics.. All kinds of emotions flying around. Overall, I'm feeling more confident. Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah46%2Fmadelinerae182%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-09%2FEC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png&hash=35e5a96c71c9fe2e176343b141139c7cc50a4af1) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/madelinerae182/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/EC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png.html)
Ps
Facial hair phase lasted about 3 months and that pic was taken Dec. '12, right before I decided to destroy it :icon_chainsaw: then the fresh pic was taken yesterday (Sept '14)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah46%2Fmadelinerae182%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-09%2FEC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png&hash=35e5a96c71c9fe2e176343b141139c7cc50a4af1) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/madelinerae182/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/EC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png.html)
Ps
Facial hair phase lasted about 3 months and that pic was taken Dec. '12, right before I decided to destroy it :icon_chainsaw: then the fresh pic was taken yesterday (Sept '14)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 19, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
Post by: antonia on September 19, 2014, 01:44:49 PM
That's pretty amazing, you are pretty and amazing!
Quote from: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:15:39 PM
Remembered my password to Dropbox and found hundreds of pics.. All kinds of emotions flying around. Overall, I'm feeling more confident. Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah46%2Fmadelinerae182%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-09%2FEC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png&hash=35e5a96c71c9fe2e176343b141139c7cc50a4af1) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/madelinerae182/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/EC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Post by: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Thank you so much for that Antonia c:
You certainly are more amazing than I!
Status: :icon_walk:
You certainly are more amazing than I!
Status: :icon_walk:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 19, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Post by: antonia on September 19, 2014, 02:13:15 PM
Turns out your modest as well :)
Quote from: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:50:42 PM
Thank you so much for that Antonia c:
You certainly are more amazing than I!
Status: :icon_walk:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Leila on September 19, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
Post by: Leila on September 19, 2014, 02:42:17 PM
Quote from: Madeline182 on September 19, 2014, 01:15:39 PM
Remembered my password to Dropbox and found hundreds of pics.. All kinds of emotions flying around. Overall, I'm feeling more confident. Opinions?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1377.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah46%2Fmadelinerae182%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-09%2FEC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png&hash=35e5a96c71c9fe2e176343b141139c7cc50a4af1) (http://s1377.photobucket.com/user/madelinerae182/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-09/EC4EA69F-8FC9-4F83-ABB4-AF1B7AC964EC_zps7zidw6mx.png.html)
Ps
Facial hair phase lasted about 3 months and that pic was taken Dec. '12, right before I decided to destroy it :icon_chainsaw: then the fresh pic was taken yesterday (Sept '14)
I have to say Madeline I've always found your avatar photos to look very fem. Wonderful to see how you've blossomed from that before photo.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jo-is-amazing on September 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
Post by: Jo-is-amazing on September 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
http://imgur.com/7z2K7g2
So what do you guys think can I pass
Sorry I couldn't get the photo to work
So what do you guys think can I pass
Sorry I couldn't get the photo to work
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 19, 2014, 11:25:28 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 19, 2014, 11:25:28 PM
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on September 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PM
http://imgur.com/7z2K7g2
So what do you guys think can I pass
Sorry I couldn't get the photo to work
Yes ma'am, indeed. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on September 19, 2014, 11:27:19 PM
Post by: Illuminess on September 19, 2014, 11:27:19 PM
Quote from: Kirey on September 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FFacebook_zps6317522d.jpg&hash=808e5da29b5219f78b42c45249c9ebb9cc372ed4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Facebook_zps6317522d.jpg.html)
This one is my favourite.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sebster on September 20, 2014, 12:00:51 AM
Post by: sebster on September 20, 2014, 12:00:51 AM
You look like a model already. You've got some good genes!
Quote from: Kirey on September 17, 2014, 04:21:13 PM
I want to try this as well D:!
I am pre-HRT, starting in November :D! The picture with earrings in is for when I am with friends/at home, to shy to go out already with big earrings drawing attention > _ <. The others is how I go trough my daily life :D.
Thing is that I am afraid to use a feminine voice at the moment because people will just look at me with a wtf face why a feminine guy would use a woman's voice x_x.
Now I hope these images won't look gigantic.. I don't know how to change that x____x
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FPhotoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg&hash=7ac763644cb2c74f5468e1ca3d8582d95e43cac6) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Photoon2014-09-10at1401_zps1ddfb1f8.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FIMG_5204_zpsa95cddc3.jpg&hash=1006322cc9f9fa97e721754f9130958f703074ab) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/IMG_5204_zpsa95cddc3.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FIMG_IPAD1_zps789720a9.jpg&hash=cb0168a682d694163b9e7f822b26c830d51a89c4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/IMG_IPAD1_zps789720a9.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff90%2FKirey3000%2FFacebook_zps6317522d.jpg&hash=808e5da29b5219f78b42c45249c9ebb9cc372ed4) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/Kirey3000/media/Facebook_zps6317522d.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 20, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
Post by: immortal gypsy on September 20, 2014, 12:04:48 AM
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on September 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PMAmazing Jo.
http://imgur.com/7z2K7g2
So what do you guys think can I pass
Sorry I couldn't get the photo to work
You can, you will, you do
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 20, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 20, 2014, 10:53:49 AM
Quote from: Jo-is-amazing on September 19, 2014, 08:54:12 PMHun you have a beautiful face, however you could use a little eyebrow work. Not a lot tho, just a little shaping in a more feminine arch over your eyes. You have great skin and a wonderful facial shape. Just give your eyebrows a lil attention and I don't see any problem at all.
http://imgur.com/7z2K7g2
So what do you guys think can I pass
Sorry I couldn't get the photo to work
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Hi girls :)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d) (http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d) (http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on September 20, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on September 20, 2014, 03:09:44 PM
The best make up is..........a nice smile. :D :D :D
You look wonderful btw.
You look wonderful btw.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 20, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 20, 2014, 03:20:35 PM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Hi girls :)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d) (http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
Im sorry no make up pointers but I just wanted to say..... ur hair..... is so...... BEAUTIFUL!!!! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 03:32:09 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 03:32:09 PM
Omg haha thank you Lara, Orchid & Amber! You made my day... and made me smile, which is not always easy when you have a lifetime of depression telling you that you're ugly. Thank you (you're beautiful) :-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 20, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 20, 2014, 03:39:29 PM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 03:32:09 PM
Omg haha thank you Lara, Orchid & Amber! You made my day... and made me smile, which is not always easy when you have a lifetime of depression telling you that you're ugly. Thank you :-*
Hah! you're welcome hun! trust me you're most definitely not ugly once you get some practice with make-up your going to be so pretty. It looks like hrt is having some good effects on you btw
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on September 20, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Post by: barbie on September 20, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Hi girls :)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d) (http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
Add some eye shadow? Add some tint color base (blended under cheekbones to sculpt)?
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on September 20, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Post by: Brenda E on September 20, 2014, 05:36:09 PM
Hi tuuliu. You're light years ahead of me, but I wanted to let you know - like everyone else - that you look absolutely wonderful.
Makeup tips? Not from me! My current makeup skills would make Bozo the Clown look ridiculous. All I could possibly add is that you look fantastic with a nice neutral application - nothing in particular seems to need covering up or highlighting. But by all means play around with it and see what you come up with - I think you have one of those faces and natural color schemes which would also look beautiful with a more aggressive palette.
Jealous...:'(
Makeup tips? Not from me! My current makeup skills would make Bozo the Clown look ridiculous. All I could possibly add is that you look fantastic with a nice neutral application - nothing in particular seems to need covering up or highlighting. But by all means play around with it and see what you come up with - I think you have one of those faces and natural color schemes which would also look beautiful with a more aggressive palette.
Jealous...:'(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: KaylaMadison on September 20, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
Post by: KaylaMadison on September 20, 2014, 10:20:52 PM
All I really have is my is my profile picture and having no confidence in passing I figured I would just see what people think. I am pre-everything and just trying to make it in the world as is, while waiting for hormones to be approved.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on September 20, 2014, 10:53:05 PM
Post by: trinityvause on September 20, 2014, 10:53:05 PM
Quote from: Allyda on September 19, 2014, 12:00:38 AMThank you!
@Trinity: You look totally feme with makeup, and you don't appear to be fat to me. This random person on Twitter prolly wishes they looked as good as you!
Ally :icon_flower:
By the way, you ALL look amazing and are such beautiful women!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 21, 2014, 06:41:05 AM
Post by: tuuliu on September 21, 2014, 06:41:05 AM
Quote from: barbie on September 20, 2014, 04:59:58 PM
Add some eye shadow? Add some tint color base (blended under cheekbones to sculpt)?
barbie~~
Thanks for the tip :) I'm not a native English speaker so I had to look up what the word tint means - and color base for that matter. Do you mean a foundation lighter than my skin/the foundation I use so that it would highlight the cheekbones? Though I don't even use foundation as I prefer natural skin and haven't found a foundation that I'd really like... not that I'd tried many anyway (issues with money and courage). I'm going to see if I find friends willing to practice makeup with more volume.
Thanks Brenda, Amber & Allyda :) you know, when you say jealous... I often look at the guys with good 'transition potential' and go just ugh, why couldn't I have a small head and a petite nose like them? I've hated my big head and nose for so long they almost stopped me from doing HRT... this is why your comments are so precious.
Kayla, you definitely pass in your avatar picture, looking pretty :-) (some of us aren't patient enough to get officially approved hormones anyway...)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 22, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 22, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
I definitely think you pass based on your pick kayla!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Post by: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 23, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Post by: Allyda on September 23, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Quote from: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PMAwesomely pretty you are! You'll have no trouble at all. I just love your eyes and you've a lovely face. Pretty hair too. :)
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on September 23, 2014, 01:40:29 AM
Post by: Two Bodies/Same Soul on September 23, 2014, 01:40:29 AM
Quote from: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
You pass. 110%. Wow.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1gliiv.jpg&hash=ae3f2184d604e6ab17374a33023d5ffcd5792fbb)
My wig fits fine apparently!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on September 23, 2014, 02:48:03 AM
Post by: lightvi on September 23, 2014, 02:48:03 AM
Quote from: Allyda on September 23, 2014, 12:31:18 AM
Awesomely pretty you are! You'll have no trouble at all. I just love your eyes and you've a lovely face. Pretty hair too. :)
Ally ;)
Thank you Allyda. I feel so peaceful when I'm Hannah. It's an feeling of being right with oneself. Being Hannah makes me happy!
Quote from: Two Bodies/Same Soul on September 23, 2014, 01:40:29 AM
You pass. 110%. Wow.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F1gliiv.jpg&hash=ae3f2184d604e6ab17374a33023d5ffcd5792fbb)
My wig fits fine apparently!
And a beautiful wig it is!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on September 23, 2014, 06:16:22 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on September 23, 2014, 06:16:22 AM
Quote from: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
wow! you are so pretty! you are a stunner girl! there are so many beautiful women on here! its inspiring to all of us that are pre-hrt!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on September 23, 2014, 05:20:38 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on September 23, 2014, 05:20:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g)
I've been on HRT for one month!
[/img](https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fdo9w5w.jpg&hash=cd1d30f6a264335490e7757baf955c93400a29e2)
Yeah I know in the picture you ca see the shadow and my eyebrows sucks XD
I've been on HRT for one month!
[/img](https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fdo9w5w.jpg&hash=cd1d30f6a264335490e7757baf955c93400a29e2)
Yeah I know in the picture you ca see the shadow and my eyebrows sucks XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on September 23, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
Post by: lightvi on September 23, 2014, 06:05:30 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on September 23, 2014, 05:20:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g)
You look really cute! You totally pass imo, especially your voice and mannerisms!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 23, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 23, 2014, 10:08:27 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on September 23, 2014, 05:20:38 PMCute video. Your coming along nicely. I see your voice is coming along nicely too. Yes, you could use a lil eyebrow shaping. I wish I had full eyebrows like you. Mine are naturally thin and have breaks in them.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EMxhN_ADS_g)
I've been on HRT for one month!
[/img](https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2Fdo9w5w.jpg&hash=cd1d30f6a264335490e7757baf955c93400a29e2)
Yeah I know in the picture you ca see the shadow and my eyebrows sucks XD
Keep them coming. I always enjoy timeline/changes videos.
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on September 25, 2014, 09:38:01 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on September 25, 2014, 09:38:01 AM
Thanks a lot XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 25, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Post by: Shantel on September 25, 2014, 10:53:00 AM
Quote from: Emily29 on September 25, 2014, 09:38:01 AM
Thanks a lot XD
Emily, you are a darling young woman to be sure!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: zog on September 25, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
Post by: zog on September 25, 2014, 02:59:16 PM
(https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-3sL-LKQDVbw/VCKi8G7ykJI/AAAAAAAACkQ/IhDVIuBgDe0/w471-h837-no/20140924_135434.jpg)
Still a long way to go, but just wondering if I have a chance at passing one day? This is my five month hormone anniversary day portrait.
And to say that I'm pleased at the rate of my boob development would be an understatement of the century. Pretty ecstatic about reaching a B cup already (although I admit to a padded bra in the pic, but that's mostly to hide my spear-like nipples in public).
Still a long way to go, but just wondering if I have a chance at passing one day? This is my five month hormone anniversary day portrait.
And to say that I'm pleased at the rate of my boob development would be an understatement of the century. Pretty ecstatic about reaching a B cup already (although I admit to a padded bra in the pic, but that's mostly to hide my spear-like nipples in public).
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ademie on September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PM
Post by: Ademie on September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PM
Wow lots of grate progress every one!! Keep the good work up <3
This is me 1 week into hrt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater)
Sorry for the Url link, i'm not gifted with computers and can't find out how to post a picture here XD
This is me 1 week into hrt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater)
Sorry for the Url link, i'm not gifted with computers and can't find out how to post a picture here XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 25, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 25, 2014, 04:46:44 PM
Quote from: Ademie on September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PMOh my gosh, you look darling hun, and hrt hasn't even had time to work yet! I love your hair and can't wait to see you 6 months from now.
Wow lots of grate progress every one!! Keep the good work up <3
This is me 1 week into hrt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater)
Sorry for the Url link, i'm not gifted with computers and can't find out how to post a picture here XD
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 25, 2014, 05:50:47 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 25, 2014, 05:50:47 PM
Lightvi you certainly got the winning ticket for facial structure :) beautiful.
Zog I can see it happening and not all too far from today. (Btw I tried to PM you about something but wasn't able to. :S)
Emily when you get the hairs in order I think you'll pass with flying colors :)
Zog I can see it happening and not all too far from today. (Btw I tried to PM you about something but wasn't able to. :S)
Emily when you get the hairs in order I think you'll pass with flying colors :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 27, 2014, 01:42:55 AM
Post by: BreezyB on September 27, 2014, 01:42:55 AM
You look beautiful Barbie, so yes, very passable :-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on September 27, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
Post by: Brenda E on September 27, 2014, 10:09:34 AM
Quote from: zog on September 25, 2014, 02:59:16 PMStill a long way to go, but just wondering if I have a chance at passing one day? This is my five month hormone anniversary day portrait.
Yes. You'll absolutely pass one day soon (if not today under the right circumstances, because the five months of HRT have been really good to you!) There's absolutely nothing I can see in that photo which stands out as problematic when it comes to your transition. Cute, and only going to get cuter as time passes.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 27, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Post by: antonia on September 27, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Did my hair this morning and going in for a make-up session at one, so time for a selfie without any makeup at all just plain vanilla :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3bmyIf0mnYk/VCbX-1DoU5I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WUmB2OIRxhg/w614-h818-no/no_makeup.jpg)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3bmyIf0mnYk/VCbX-1DoU5I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WUmB2OIRxhg/w614-h818-no/no_makeup.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on September 27, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Post by: barbie on September 27, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 27, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Did my hair this morning and going in for a make-up session at one, so time for a selfie without any makeup at all just plain vanilla :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3bmyIf0mnYk/VCbX-1DoU5I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WUmB2OIRxhg/w614-h818-no/no_makeup.jpg)
Yes, Antonia. Enjoy makeup.
BTW, I do not like your current hairstyle so much. I think longer and more voluminous hair will fit better. Just my two cents of opinion.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ty on September 27, 2014, 05:32:32 PM
Post by: Ty on September 27, 2014, 05:32:32 PM
Quote from: Ademie on September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PM
Wow lots of grate progress every one!! Keep the good work up <3
This is me 1 week into hrt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater)
Sorry for the Url link, i'm not gifted with computers and can't find out how to post a picture here XD
I have to say that you are really pretty. Your face is already very female and you are barely on hormones.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ty on September 27, 2014, 05:37:44 PM
Post by: Ty on September 27, 2014, 05:37:44 PM
Quote from: barbie on September 27, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Yes, Antonia. Enjoy makeup.
BTW, I do not like your current hairstyle so much. I think longer and more voluminous hair will fit better. Just my two cents of opinion.
barbie~~
I agree. A longer more full hair style would really frame your face better. Overall you look great.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on September 27, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
Post by: stephaniec on September 27, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 27, 2014, 10:32:32 AMyou look good
Did my hair this morning and going in for a make-up session at one, so time for a selfie without any makeup at all just plain vanilla :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3bmyIf0mnYk/VCbX-1DoU5I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WUmB2OIRxhg/w614-h818-no/no_makeup.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on September 27, 2014, 06:04:41 PM
Post by: Rotika on September 27, 2014, 06:04:41 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 27, 2014, 10:32:32 AM
Did my hair this morning and going in for a make-up session at one, so time for a selfie without any makeup at all just plain vanilla :)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-3bmyIf0mnYk/VCbX-1DoU5I/AAAAAAAAAoo/WUmB2OIRxhg/w614-h818-no/no_makeup.jpg)
I have to agree with past comments. Grow that hair out. I don't know what kind of brows you have. But if you can shape them to round out more you'll change a lot of how your eyes look. You may have to grow them out first to achieve this if you've already shaped them. You look very angry into the camera for your selfie. Give us a smirk, a smile, or an expression ;) Passing isn't just about facial features and how much paint you can slap on your face. Focus on the little things. They'll all add up. A necklace, get a femme facial piercing (if you're into that) or big hoop ear rings. Something as simple as giving some expression in your photos can really change how people perceive you. You will pass though. I'm sure. Just not right here and now. We all have work to do. My voice is horrible. My makeup skills are terrible. My face doesn't even look half as femme as yours does even on my good days. Best of luck. You are beautiful either way. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on September 27, 2014, 06:16:02 PM
Post by: Rotika on September 27, 2014, 06:16:02 PM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PM
Hi girls :)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d) (http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
I'm no expert at makeup. but from what I've learned sofar it is mainly used to hide features you don't want to show as much. or bring others out. (sorry if I'm horribly mistaken this is just my experience!) If you're going out and wearing your best jeans or such.. I'd suggest darker eyeshadow. Don't overdo it and go goth. Just darker. Look up how to do smokey eyes on youtube. Use lots of dark browns and some hazels for highlights to match your complexion. I really have no idea what you're using for makup.. but I like the Revlon liquid foundations for contouring (not too expensive like Mac or Smashbox but gets the job done). Also look up how to do contouring for transgendered pplz. Lots of how to's on this around youtube. Anyways.. you're hair is gorgeous. Keep looking great :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 28, 2014, 03:01:05 AM
Post by: BreezyB on September 28, 2014, 03:01:05 AM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 20, 2014, 02:57:31 PMI think you look great, you look quite natural which is nice. Definetly ramp it up a bit though for going out. There's a huge difference between night and day makeup. When I was learning makeup I booked myself into my local M.A.C. Store and they went through a really nice smoky eye look. I hadn't even started to transition and looked not even 10% as femme as you do but was good to learn from professionals. And you get the value of the session in makeup too. But definetly the smoky eyes for night time, and a good cover to even everything out. Love to see how it comes out Tuuliu
Hi girls :)
Was feeling a bit (very) lonely today so I decided to play a bit with makeup. I'm gonna see my first drag show tomorrow so I thought I'd put some effort in myself too and practice. Got my first sports bra today as I'm 4 months hrt and I'm getting shapes... :) can you think of any tips on the makeup?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FeS4Vo5h.jpg&hash=6109e4e99828d0336cc5b00a27a8740716ec75cc) (http://imgur.com/eS4Vo5h)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2Fik7PZSp.jpg&hash=3ab15becd23018c2b19301c13e0c83d2d90bfe4d)
(http://imgur.com/ik7PZSp)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6lJmSws.jpg&hash=dbf456ae20be36eb4d2a79aeb92eb90d4b447b50) (http://imgur.com/6lJmSws)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 28, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
Post by: BreezyB on September 28, 2014, 03:16:00 AM
Quote from: Ademie on September 25, 2014, 04:29:47 PM
Wow lots of grate progress every one!! Keep the good work up <3
This is me 1 week into hrt.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater (https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=1485321548375477&set=a.1385140278393605.1073741825.100006929379323&type=1&theater)
Sorry for the Url link, i'm not gifted with computers and can't find out how to post a picture here XD
Wow Ademie, you look great even before hrt. Love your hair, just starting to grow mine now, it's a slow process though :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 28, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Post by: antonia on September 28, 2014, 12:55:14 PM
Thanks for your feedback, I'm growing my hair out and for the next couple on months I'll be in that awkward in the middle stage, it should be where I want it in another year or two, I don't really accessorize much in my daily life because I cycle everywhere but I certainly do when I go out. Barbie and Rotika, thanks for being honest about pass-ability and the hair, I prefer getting things straight up without the sugar coating :)
I might do another vanilla status check in a couple of months when the hormones have had more time.
Hugs
I might do another vanilla status check in a couple of months when the hormones have had more time.
Hugs
Quote from: barbie on September 27, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Yes, Antonia. Enjoy makeup.
BTW, I do not like your current hairstyle so much. I think longer and more voluminous hair will fit better. Just my two cents of opinion.
barbie~~
Quote from: stephaniec on September 27, 2014, 05:46:33 PM
you look good
Quote from: Rotika on September 27, 2014, 06:04:41 PM
I have to agree with past comments. Grow that hair out. I don't know what kind of brows you have. But if you can shape them to round out more you'll change a lot of how your eyes look. You may have to grow them out first to achieve this if you've already shaped them. You look very angry into the camera for your selfie. Give us a smirk, a smile, or an expression ;) Passing isn't just about facial features and how much paint you can slap on your face. Focus on the little things. They'll all add up. A necklace, get a femme facial piercing (if you're into that) or big hoop ear rings. Something as simple as giving some expression in your photos can really change how people perceive you. You will pass though. I'm sure. Just not right here and now. We all have work to do. My voice is horrible. My makeup skills are terrible. My face doesn't even look half as femme as yours does even on my good days. Best of luck. You are beautiful either way. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Wow thanks for the sweet words & tips Rotika & Breezy :) I'll have some practice with smokey eyes (which was the first thing actually I wanted to learn with makeup!) and then see when I'll have the opportunity to go out next. I was sort of not confident enough last time to go all in, but this was a huge step for me: first time out in visible makeup. As for foundation and contouring I have little to no experience but maybe that could work in night makeup. So I looked up contouring for transgender and that gave me some nice ideas. To go for a makeup bar in the public I'm still too shy, but I'm thinking I could find a studio that does it in private. When I can afford it, being unemployed is a pain.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
You have nice facial features Antonia. The profile hair length seems to fit you! So when do we get to see pics from the makeup session? :)
Ademie you're already passing pre-hrt, lucky you!
Ademie you're already passing pre-hrt, lucky you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
Post by: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
Quote from: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
You have nice facial features Antonia. The profile hair length seems to fit you! So when do we get to see pics from the makeup session? :)
Ademie you're already passing pre-hrt, lucky you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ty on September 28, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Post by: Ty on September 28, 2014, 05:39:16 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
You look great, but a smile would do so much more. Smile, your beautiful.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on September 29, 2014, 05:07:04 AM
Post by: Rotika on September 29, 2014, 05:07:04 AM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Wow thanks for the sweet words & tips Rotika & Breezy :) I'll have some practice with smokey eyes (which was the first thing actually I wanted to learn with makeup!) and then see when I'll have the opportunity to go out next. I was sort of not confident enough last time to go all in, but this was a huge step for me: first time out in visible makeup. As for foundation and contouring I have little to no experience but maybe that could work in night makeup. So I looked up contouring for transgender and that gave me some nice ideas. To go for a makeup bar in the public I'm still too shy, but I'm thinking I could find a studio that does it in private. When I can afford it, being unemployed is a pain.
Youre very welcome darling. As far as mot having much experience though, just have a girls night and watch such movies at home and play with your makeup. I try to do this once a week. For practice. I might actualy write a thread about this soon and see what everyone has to say about it lol.. You'll probly all find my situation quite funny. Anyways.. You can be as shy as I am.. Post more pics soon! Gals like you give me courage to continue working on myself. I'm not just saying that either. I come to this page when all i can think about is whether or not i might be beautiful if i started hrt. You ARE beautiful. Not everyone van say the same. Dont coop yourself up. Get out. Live your life for those who might not ever. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on September 29, 2014, 06:23:01 AM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on September 29, 2014, 06:23:01 AM
Quote from: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
Quote from: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
You two are absolutely gorgeous.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 06:56:46 AM
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 06:56:46 AM
Quote from: tuuliu on September 28, 2014, 03:55:27 PM
Wow thanks for the sweet words & tips Rotika & Breezy :) I'll have some practice with smokey eyes (which was the first thing actually I wanted to learn with makeup!) and then see when I'll have the opportunity to go out next. I was sort of not confident enough last time to go all in, but this was a huge step for me: first time out in visible makeup. As for foundation and contouring I have little to no experience but maybe that could work in night makeup. So I looked up contouring for transgender and that gave me some nice ideas. To go for a makeup bar in the public I'm still too shy, but I'm thinking I could find a studio that does it in private. When I can afford it, being unemployed is a pain.
There's so much you can do with contouring, but seems like an art so takes a bit to get good
Quote from: lightvi on September 22, 2014, 11:40:05 PM
Going out for the night adventure time! Currently (signature has info) months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout_zps99018902.jpg&hash=d09f1767e241e382d98972f382578545bd51a877)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi801.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fyy299%2Findustrialmidnight%2Fgoingout2_zps996d1dc7.jpg&hash=d90c184d39d7da70ccead3e1171a73844a633207)
Quote from: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
Looking beautiful girls, mwah xx
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 07:06:52 AM
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 07:06:52 AM
Hmmm......this latest batch of photos is making me increasingly jealous. :) Antonia, you are gorgeous. And a general catch-all to the young ones....grrr. Your results 1 month into HRT is what some of us hope to attain after a year or two. Congratulations. And grrrr.
:)
Cosette
:)
Cosette
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 29, 2014, 07:53:40 AM
Post by: antonia on September 29, 2014, 07:53:40 AM
It's all makeup magic and in this case not even my own, had it done at the MAC store :p
I think I still need a couple more months before I'm passable, until then I'll just go about my life as semi-androgynous :)
I think I still need a couple more months before I'm passable, until then I'll just go about my life as semi-androgynous :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 09:01:35 AM
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 09:01:35 AM
Quote from: antonia on September 29, 2014, 07:53:40 AM
It's all makeup magic and in this case not even my own, had it done at the MAC store :p
I think I still need a couple more months before I'm passable, until then I'll just go about my life as semi-androgynous :)
The MAC store is the best, love it there.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
What is this MAC you speak of?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 10:52:42 AM
Post by: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 10:52:42 AM
Ah, nm....google is marvelous. Never heard of this before.....I guess I'm dense.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on September 29, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Post by: barbie on September 29, 2014, 06:20:49 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
Yes. Antonia, you look unique and attractive. Go out and enjoy!
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on September 29, 2014, 07:08:18 PM
Post by: Shantel on September 29, 2014, 07:08:18 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 28, 2014, 04:48:12 PM
This is just something I took before going out, there will be professional pics later but here is the makeup, sorry for no smile :p
(https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-4DZZGomjP0c/VCiBp3W3aNI/AAAAAAAAAo8/lg8dyEcqjw4/w614-h818-no/makeup.jpg)
Dang Antonia, you're looking hot and a bit intense, love your looks though hon!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
Post by: BreezyB on September 29, 2014, 09:20:06 PM
Quote from: Aus76 on September 29, 2014, 10:49:33 AM
What is this MAC you speak of?
M.A.C is a brand of cosmetic and whilst it's quite expensive, I find the cover I get from their concealers and foundations are just amazing. In Australia their in most David Jones or Myer stores, I presume Macy's in the US? But they have a beauty bar where you can get a makeover, and they provide tips so very useful. I won't plug them anymore, just do a Google search and you'll find them :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: - Rachel - on September 29, 2014, 09:48:02 PM
Post by: - Rachel - on September 29, 2014, 09:48:02 PM
Lovely pic, Antonia.
My "cis-ter" took me for a mini makeover at Sephora. Maybe I'll have to try M.A.C., too.
My "cis-ter" took me for a mini makeover at Sephora. Maybe I'll have to try M.A.C., too.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 29, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
Post by: antonia on September 29, 2014, 09:56:33 PM
I'm kind of set back by all the positive comments and complements, just thought I'd show the after makeup pic for comparison, thanks for all the kind words but I must warn you that you might be over-inflating my ego ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on September 29, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
Post by: Allyda on September 29, 2014, 11:49:01 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 29, 2014, 09:56:33 PMHey girl, a lil overinflated ego is good for the soul! :) You do look great Antonia! :D
I'm kind of set back by all the positive comments and complements, just thought I'd show the after makeup pic for comparison, thanks for all the kind words but I must warn you that you might be over-inflating my ego ;)
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 30, 2014, 11:16:34 AM
Post by: tuuliu on September 30, 2014, 11:16:34 AM
Antonia wow that makeup's good. You're beautiful :)
Thanks again Rotika ;) looking forward to the thread!
Thanks again Rotika ;) looking forward to the thread!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Post by: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Well. This is taking some courage.. but here's me going MtF. Not gunna make excuses. I highly doubt I'm passing, but as far as looks go, I'm curious what you all honestly think. This's just me in makup without HRT hoping one day I gain the courage/confidence to go full time. I really hope HRT will do something about my face.
Sorry for the link, I just don't want everyone on the inet having easy access. Or at least tooo easy of access.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg)
Sorry for the link, I just don't want everyone on the inet having easy access. Or at least tooo easy of access.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on September 30, 2014, 01:36:26 PM
Post by: tuuliu on September 30, 2014, 01:36:26 PM
Sounds like a big step for you! I'm happy you made it, I don't see any reason why you wouldn't pass with HRT. You're androgynous from the start, it's mostly the beard shadow. There are other effects caused testosterone but I'm not sure exactly which and looks like they won't be a problem after HRT anyway. I'm guessing that if you grow your hair out it'll frame your face more nicely. You'll look fab - in fact, you do already, just drop the disgusted face in the third pic ;) FYI I'd switch noses with you...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on September 30, 2014, 05:49:18 PM
Post by: antonia on September 30, 2014, 05:49:18 PM
I'm pretty sure with a couple on months of HRT, growing your hair out and a little brow work you'll be passing without any issues. Your facial structure is quite good, nice full lips, high cheekbones, and really nice eyes. I can't tell if your brow is prominent from these pictures but like all of us you probably want to downplay it and the jaw.
If you have not started I recommend hair removal (laser or electrolysis) since this will actually take longer than for HRT to start it's magic.
IMHO You'll have no issues :)
If you have not started I recommend hair removal (laser or electrolysis) since this will actually take longer than for HRT to start it's magic.
IMHO You'll have no issues :)
Quote from: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 01:04:56 PM
Well. This is taking some courage.. but here's me going MtF. Not gunna make excuses. I highly doubt I'm passing, but as far as looks go, I'm curious what you all honestly think. This's just me in makup without HRT hoping one day I gain the courage/confidence to go full time. I really hope HRT will do something about my face.
Sorry for the link, I just don't want everyone on the inet having easy access. Or at least tooo easy of access.
http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg (http://i44.photobucket.com/albums/f47/Lexietgs/comingout/g9j7c9x8a_zps1202bac5.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on September 30, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on September 30, 2014, 07:24:15 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 30, 2014, 05:49:18 PM
I'm pretty sure with a couple on months of HRT, growing your hair out and a little brow work you'll be passing without any issues. Your facial structure is quite good, nice full lips, high cheekbones, and really nice eyes. I can't tell if your brow is prominent from these pictures but like all of us you probably want to downplay it and the jaw.
If you have not started I recommend hair removal (laser or electrolysis) since this will actually take longer than for HRT to start it's magic.
IMHO You'll have no issues :)
Yeah I saw this. I'm guessing you'd pass a lot better than you think!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2014, 10:47:51 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2014, 10:47:51 PM
Quote from: antonia on September 29, 2014, 09:56:33 PMIt is earned girl!! You are just gorgeous! ^-^ ^-^
I must warn you that you might be over-inflating my ego ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2014, 10:50:11 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on September 30, 2014, 10:50:11 PM
Quote from: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 01:04:56 PMBEFORE HRT??? I hate you! *giggle* :D
without HRT
You are going to literally soar with HRT love!! ^-^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
Post by: Rotika on September 30, 2014, 11:26:04 PM
OMG thank you so much everyone! You've all literaly made my day. I was expecting to hear things about my jawline, nose and brow line. But being called andro? I never would've guessed. Right now I can't afford electro or laser, maybe in a couple more months I'll be doing that. All the comments, good or bad, are really exactly what I needed to hear. My wife just doesn't have time to critique my practice sessions since we both work. So coming here for some advice really livens my mood about everything. Thank you all again :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on September 30, 2014, 11:35:31 PM
Post by: BreezyB on September 30, 2014, 11:35:31 PM
Absolutely Rotika, you look great already. HRT is going to be very favourable to you... I'm jealous too. You definetly look androgynous now which is fantastic, hrt will make that extra difference.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: trinityvause on October 01, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
Post by: trinityvause on October 01, 2014, 10:12:18 PM
So excited my hair is growing.. pre-hormones. :)
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(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10661699_293913590803281_6176910936851611667_o.jpg)(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10644931_293912770803363_3156015101735420962_n.jpg?oh=83141242e7ba33ec40e097d037cad574&oe=54867E6E)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10417514_293912807470026_3494710358456747365_n.jpg?oh=bea14669b49879afbaf3667efeb23c13&oe=54B1FD18&__gda__=1421376928_4311598486d62bb20c82ae9f67d5fb5b)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 01, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 01, 2014, 10:57:15 PM
I love! love! love your hair. And you also have beautiful lips :).
I think that with makeup and a female presentation you would look like any other girl. One thing that I think would help would be if you did some eye brow work though
I think that with makeup and a female presentation you would look like any other girl. One thing that I think would help would be if you did some eye brow work though
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jen682 on October 01, 2014, 11:38:31 PM
Post by: Jen682 on October 01, 2014, 11:38:31 PM
Antonia, you look fantastic, with or without makeup :o Really. Don't worry about passing. Go out, have fun, and be confident.
Jen
Jen
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalie on October 01, 2014, 11:56:25 PM
Post by: Natalie on October 01, 2014, 11:56:25 PM
It doesn't matter. You will have people say you are ugly, pretty or any combination. It's all relative. I get told I am ugly all the time but you know what? It's just a person's subjective opinion on attractiveness so I don't care.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on October 02, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on October 02, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
Quote from: Natalie on October 01, 2014, 11:56:25 PM
It doesn't matter. You will have people say you are ugly, pretty or any combination. It's all relative. I get told I am ugly all the time but you know what? It's just a person's subjective opinion on attractiveness so I don't care.
You're not ugly. Just sayin. ^.^
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalie on October 02, 2014, 10:11:08 AM
Post by: Natalie on October 02, 2014, 10:11:08 AM
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on October 02, 2014, 01:28:00 AM
You're not ugly. Just sayin. ^.^
Yes, and someone else will tell me how gross or ugly I am so when does it matter?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Codia on October 02, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Post by: Codia on October 02, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Nearly 5 months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2F506n0q2sz%2FFull_Size_Render1.jpg&hash=0c8a8db33a34d5e4a43e3e99f862f9d0336eccc9)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2F506n0q2sz%2FFull_Size_Render1.jpg&hash=0c8a8db33a34d5e4a43e3e99f862f9d0336eccc9)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 02, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
Post by: Allyda on October 02, 2014, 11:48:43 AM
Quote from: trinityvause on October 01, 2014, 10:12:18 PMOh yes, hrt is going to be very kind to you girl. Love your hair. You have great facial features for hrt to sculpt into a very feminine face. If only we all were so lucky, lol
So excited my hair is growing.. pre-hormones. :)
(https://scontent-b-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpf1/t31.0-8/s720x720/10661699_293913590803281_6176910936851611667_o.jpg)(https://scontent-a-lga.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10644931_293912770803363_3156015101735420962_n.jpg?oh=83141242e7ba33ec40e097d037cad574&oe=54867E6E)(https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10417514_293912807470026_3494710358456747365_n.jpg?oh=bea14669b49879afbaf3667efeb23c13&oe=54B1FD18&__gda__=1421376928_4311598486d62bb20c82ae9f67d5fb5b)
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Bea_Slavsky on October 02, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
Post by: Bea_Slavsky on October 02, 2014, 07:26:34 PM
So, i'm new here. Hope to start I transition, but feedback is needed. Could I be passable?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 02, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 02, 2014, 07:43:06 PM
Quote from: Bea_Slavsky on October 02, 2014, 07:26:34 PMWelcome to Susan's Bea! :icon_bunch: You've found a lovely wonderful community here to be a part of.
So, i'm new here. Hope to start I transition, but feedback is need. Could I be passable?
(https://plus.google.com/photos/105284625960734664417/albums/6065764107419099681/6065764112580681794?pid=6065764112580681794&oid=105284625960734664417)
Unfortunately, you'll have to make at least 15 posts before you'll be able to post a photo. Again, Welcome to Susan's! Feel free to enjoy the site. There is a lot of helpful information here, and the people you'll meet on this site are absolutely the most sincere, compassionate, and caring people you'll ever find, anywhere. Feel free to rant, complain, or cry, we're very good listeners, or share some happy moments with us as well. After you've made 15 posts we'll be happy to see your photo/s and help out in any way we can.
As a first stop you might like to check out our site rules to live by. They can be found here: https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.html (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,2.0.html) This will help you avoid any mistakes until you get used to things.
In the meantime Bea, Enjoy yourself! :eusa_dance:
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Bea_Slavsky on October 02, 2014, 07:50:49 PM
Post by: Bea_Slavsky on October 02, 2014, 07:50:49 PM
Dear Ally,
Thank you for the levely attention. I will read the site rules and start to utilize as much as I can to make progress.
Thanks again.
Thank you for the levely attention. I will read the site rules and start to utilize as much as I can to make progress.
Thanks again.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on October 02, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Post by: lightvi on October 02, 2014, 08:19:18 PM
Quote from: Codia on October 02, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Nearly 5 months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2F506n0q2sz%2FFull_Size_Render1.jpg&hash=0c8a8db33a34d5e4a43e3e99f862f9d0336eccc9)
Hottie! I love your eyebrows! <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on October 02, 2014, 08:48:50 PM
Post by: Illuminess on October 02, 2014, 08:48:50 PM
Quote from: Natalie on October 02, 2014, 10:11:08 AM
Yes, and someone else will tell me how gross or ugly I am so when does it matter?
The only thing that matters is how you feel about yourself. If you think you're ugly, then that's the vibe other people will get no matter what your physical beauty is. If you think you're beautiful, then beauty will radiate. It's all in your attitude and positive self-image. In male-mode I would consider myself attractive, but presenting as female I expect myself to be beautiful. Maybe I won't pass very well, and maybe I will. Either way, it's how I feel about myself as Arin that matters, and others will treat me as the girl I am. Personality always shines through the surface. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 02, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 02, 2014, 09:56:04 PM
Quote from: Codia on October 02, 2014, 11:26:51 AM
Nearly 5 months HRT
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs3.postimg.org%2F506n0q2sz%2FFull_Size_Render1.jpg&hash=0c8a8db33a34d5e4a43e3e99f862f9d0336eccc9)
CUTE!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on October 02, 2014, 10:55:15 PM
Post by: Illuminess on October 02, 2014, 10:55:15 PM
Looks good, trinityvause. And you, Codia. Grr, you people and your naturally wonderful hair.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
Post by: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on October 03, 2014, 12:30:57 AM
Post by: Illuminess on October 03, 2014, 12:30:57 AM
Quote from: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
I don't see anything at all, PrincessPatience. You look fab to me. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lightvi on October 03, 2014, 05:07:02 AM
Post by: lightvi on October 03, 2014, 05:07:02 AM
Quote from: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
You look so beautiful! Being completely honest, I don't see a thing that would make me think you weren't anything but a gorgeous girl.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 03, 2014, 06:12:28 AM
Post by: Allyda on October 03, 2014, 06:12:28 AM
Quote from: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PMYour a very pretty young girl. I see nothing to indicate otherwise. You look nice and thin too. I can't imagine anyone ever "clocking" you.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on October 03, 2014, 08:07:23 PM
Post by: stephaniec on October 03, 2014, 08:07:23 PM
Quote from: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PMno, except maybe a teeny bit on the eyebrows, maybe not.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 07:20:37 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 07:20:37 AM
Quote from: PrincessPatience on October 02, 2014, 11:44:41 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FEcfgsPg.jpg&hash=c6435e5c25c122b95e0c1561f10a446f1f1c2f3b)
haven't posted in a while.
I'm officially 6 months on hrt. Is there is anything I need to work that clocks me? please be honest.
Im curious as to what makes you think you don't pass. Girl, you pass with flying colors. Your a stunner, so you shouldn't worry about passing.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 04, 2014, 09:37:22 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 04, 2014, 09:37:22 AM
Quote from: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 07:20:37 AM
Im curious as to what makes you think you don't pass. Girl, you pass with flying colors. Your a stunner, so you shouldn't worry about passing.
+1 The Princess is a totally foxy lady!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
Post by: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on October 04, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Post by: Sammy on October 04, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
You have amazing frame which pretty much puts You into female range by itself. Your face is totally andro heavily leaning towards female - once You style Your hair, pierce ears and eyebrows You will have a huuuuge difficulty to pass as a male.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 04, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 04, 2014, 12:33:36 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
What a sweetie you are Belfast Girl, I agree completely with Emily!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 12:41:44 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
honey you are super cute!!! you should have no problems going full time after laser.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 04, 2014, 12:43:44 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 04, 2014, 09:37:22 AM
+1 The Princess is a totally foxy lady!
^^ this is true.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 03:57:40 PM
Post by: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 03:57:40 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 04, 2014, 12:26:41 PM
You have amazing frame which pretty much puts You into female range by itself. Your face is totally andro heavily leaning towards female - once You style Your hair, pierce ears and eyebrows You will have a huuuuge difficulty to pass as a male.
This might be the nicest thing anyone's said to me in a long time, so thank you!
Edit: also thanks to the others!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 04, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
Post by: BreezyB on October 04, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
I agree with Emily, you have a very feminine frame which helps immensely with passing. You look Andro too so you'll have no problems after some laser. Your hairs great too, awesome length
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Illuminess on October 05, 2014, 12:20:47 AM
Post by: Illuminess on October 05, 2014, 12:20:47 AM
I didn't realise I had hips like this until a couple of years ago:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 05, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 05, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Quote from: sororcaeli on October 05, 2014, 12:20:47 AM
I didn't realise I had hips like this until a couple of years ago:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/hcnt2z9ctvqmsqf/Photo%20on%207-30-14%20at%206.27%20PM%20%232.jpg?dl=0
Very lucky girl sororcaeli, you have a very feminine figure
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 05, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 05, 2014, 11:23:16 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 05, 2014, 12:28:31 AM
Very lucky girl sororcaeli, you have a very feminine figure
Yes she does, the photo is a bit dark though but the figure definitely comes through as very feminine!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on October 05, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Post by: Wynternight on October 05, 2014, 01:58:52 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PM
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
People don't even bat an eye at pierced ears these days. I have four earrings in each ear and no one says a thing about it. :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April Lee on October 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
Post by: April Lee on October 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PM
I don't think I will ever be able to completely pass in person at more than 6'3", and it remains to be seen what I can do with my voice.
But with the right lighting and angle now, I think I can come close in a photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2F242imnt.jpg&hash=74d758cb41f4b09fa68338338d783dd79652bbd7)
But with the right lighting and angle now, I think I can come close in a photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2F242imnt.jpg&hash=74d758cb41f4b09fa68338338d783dd79652bbd7)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 05, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 05, 2014, 05:20:49 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 04, 2014, 12:14:40 PMYou have a nice feminine body shape which is a huge plus. I think your very pretty now and If I saw you in public I wouldn't see you as anything other than female.
(https://imagizer.imageshack.us/v2/452x800q90/674/QcPm8a.jpg)
1 year HRT. Not full time or anything (although I'm presenting female at home/with friends, etc.), but actually getting on the NHS rather than self-medding, so I don't know, maybe a bit of counselling and them paying for laser will help get me there.
Would quite like a proper haircut / eyebrows done / ears pierced, but can't really while I'm still presenting male in public. Eventually, though. Working towards going full time by Christmas, finger's crossed.
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 05, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 05, 2014, 05:23:05 PM
Quote from: April Lee on October 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PMApril you have come a long way and are an inspiration to myself and I suspect many older girls in transition. Never sell yourself short girl. You've made it!
I don't think I will ever be able to completely pass in person at more than 6'3", and it remains to be seen what I can do with my voice.
But with the right lighting and angle now, I think I can come close in a photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2F242imnt.jpg&hash=74d758cb41f4b09fa68338338d783dd79652bbd7)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 06, 2014, 03:48:00 AM
Post by: belfast girl on October 06, 2014, 03:48:00 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 04, 2014, 07:54:03 PM
I agree with Emily, you have a very feminine frame which helps immensely with passing. You look Andro too so you'll have no problems after some laser. Your hairs great too, awesome length
Thanks, I've just been letting it grow out for about 18 months now. I'll hopefully be able to do something with it soon!
And thanks Allyda, very kind of you but unfortunately I've, as far as I know, been mistaken for a girl precisely once in the last year.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on October 06, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on October 06, 2014, 03:52:14 AM
Quote from: April Lee on October 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PMGirl, I have seen your video. You pass!! Welcome to the ranks of sexy cougars!! ROAR!! :)
I don't think I will ever be able to completely pass in person at more than 6'3", and it remains to be seen what I can do with my voice.
But with the right lighting and angle now, I think I can come close in a photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2F242imnt.jpg&hash=74d758cb41f4b09fa68338338d783dd79652bbd7)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Paeonia on October 06, 2014, 03:58:57 AM
Post by: Paeonia on October 06, 2014, 03:58:57 AM
I've had a lot of very positive comments so far when i posted this on tumblr, but I dunno how serious they were. So, uh, what do the experts think!
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1303e3257f4f1afbc0ee4677e563744b/tumblr_ncxr6myVL91raevsgo1_1280.jpg)
(One of these days I will tidy this room!)
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1303e3257f4f1afbc0ee4677e563744b/tumblr_ncxr6myVL91raevsgo1_1280.jpg)
(One of these days I will tidy this room!)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 06, 2014, 06:38:18 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 06, 2014, 06:38:18 AM
Quote from: Paeonia on October 06, 2014, 03:58:57 AMYes, you really do need to tidy that room :police: But your looking gorgeous though, very pretty
I've had a lot of very positive comments so far when i posted this on tumblr, but I dunno how serious they were. So, uh, what do the experts think!
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1303e3257f4f1afbc0ee4677e563744b/tumblr_ncxr6myVL91raevsgo1_1280.jpg)
(One of these days I will tidy this room!)
Quote from: April Lee on October 05, 2014, 05:13:49 PMApril you look beautiful, very feminine and very pretty
I don't think I will ever be able to completely pass in person at more than 6'3", and it remains to be seen what I can do with my voice.
But with the right lighting and angle now, I think I can come close in a photo.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi59.tinypic.com%2F242imnt.jpg&hash=74d758cb41f4b09fa68338338d783dd79652bbd7)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Auroramarianna on October 06, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Post by: Auroramarianna on October 06, 2014, 12:39:23 PM
Quote from: Paeonia on October 06, 2014, 03:58:57 AM
I've had a lot of very positive comments so far when i posted this on tumblr, but I dunno how serious they were. So, uh, what do the experts think!
(https://38.media.tumblr.com/1303e3257f4f1afbc0ee4677e563744b/tumblr_ncxr6myVL91raevsgo1_1280.jpg)
(One of these days I will tidy this room!)
you look really pretty, you have good eyes and a tiny chin (: I think if you worked on your eyebrows, you could look even better!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 08, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 08, 2014, 03:25:10 PM
Me as a Long Haired Brunette with make-up:
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Me as a medium haired blonde with little to no make up:
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Me as a medium haired blonde with little to no make up:
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 08, 2014, 04:14:30 PM
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 08, 2014, 04:14:30 PM
Quote from: ♡ Emily ♡ on October 08, 2014, 03:54:03 PM
I like You as long haired brunette better :) - that pic almost sends that "serious business" vibe :). And You do remind me someone, most probably a celebrity, but I cannot pinpoint which one exactly.
Thank you... I've had a few comments before about being compared to a celebrity on "The Young and the Restless" tv show.. I can't recall a name either though. hahaha
I like being brunette as well with the long hair... Unfortunately the blond wig was $280 vs the $60 brunette one... So I feel compelled to get my monies-worth. :P
My hair choice is seriously the one thing that is delaying me going FT at work... everyone knows now at the office... I just can't decide which way to go in the hair department. And a wig is a bit of a must for me as I suffer from a receding hairline. :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: immortal gypsy on October 08, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
Post by: immortal gypsy on October 08, 2014, 04:37:11 PM
Quote from: Stephanie00Rayne on October 08, 2014, 03:25:10 PMI like the long haired one as well, ignore the cost. Think of the blonde wig as a pair of shoes you bought for a wedding that you'll only wear once.
Me as a Long Haired Brunette with make-up:
https://flic.kr/p/ovr1Za (https://flic.kr/p/ovr1Za)
Me as a medium haired blonde with little to no make up:
https://flic.kr/p/pzKGnr (https://flic.kr/p/pzKGnr)
You like being a brunette and if you're going to be wearing the wig regularly, it may as well be a colour and length that you enjoy also
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 08, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 08, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
I think this is a bit better than my last attempt. Here's me wishing this was easier.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 12:19:06 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 12:19:06 AM
I have only played with makeup a few times. I will get better at it I hope.
What do you think? :-*
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What do you think? :-*
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 06:03:20 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 06:03:20 AM
Quote from: Deinewelt on October 08, 2014, 11:17:08 PM
I think this is a bit better than my last attempt. Here's me wishing this was easier.
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The only advice I can offer is that you need to smile :D A real smile, let it shine! I ran your photo thru an App I am working on that does face recognition / understanding. Well the computer says you are a score of 74.88 out of 100 in beauty! So thats something to smile about! It also said... smile : false ( value : 0.14 ) Age 25, emotioin : sad:37%,confused:32%. I would love to see a picture of you smiling :P
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 06:03:20 AM
The only advice I can offer is that you need to smile :D A real smile, let it shine! I ran your photo thru an App I am working on that does face recognition / understanding. Well the computer says you are a score of 74.88 out of 100 in beauty! So thats something to smile about! It also said... smile : false ( value : 0.14 ) Age 25, emotioin : sad:37%,confused:32%. I would love to see a picture of you smiling :P
-Jade
Oh I do smile, but I was just having one of those days. It is weird because I suddenly feel like a woman everywhere I go. I feel like its obvious to everybody what is going on. Yes there is a lot of joy in it. I'll definitely make a pic with a smile in it if I get a chance. I don't even feel like this is something that I'm choosing. Basically I was living my life being myself in private, but then suddenly I just started looking and feeling more like a woman without any HRT or any kind of choice being involved. Like I sit and am like, do I want to be a woman? It isn't that I want to be a woman; I am a woman. But yeah, there are definitely perks to it.
P.S. your scanner said I was only 37% sad, so that means I must be the other 63% happy?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 08:14:40 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 07:41:55 PM
Oh I do smile, but I was just having one of those days. It is weird because I suddenly feel like a woman everywhere I go. I feel like its obvious to everybody what is going on. Yes there is a lot of joy in it. I'll definitely make a pic with a smile in it if I get a chance. I don't even feel like this is something that I'm choosing. Basically I was living my life being myself in private, but then suddenly I just started looking and feeling more like a woman without any HRT or any kind of choice being involved. Like I sit and am like, do I want to be a woman? It isn't that I want to be a woman; I am a woman. But yeah, there are definitely perks to it.
P.S. your scanner said I was only 37% sad, so that means I must be the other 63% happy?
I feel the same, I am just changing. Did not plan it. I do frown and scowl too much tho, but I try not to in pictures. See the one above yours... When I am smiling and happy I think I look like a girl way more.
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
Yeah definitely but you look good in both!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 09:31:05 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 09:31:05 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on October 09, 2014, 09:15:55 PM
Yeah definitely but you look good in both!
;D thank you! My computer rated my beauty low... :-\
Now you made me feel much better!! I guess maybe I need to work on the algorithms more. Or not trust the computer, haha.
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Post by: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA0dJo0c.jpg&hash=26049dea4de50044510ba18683a0c847a7ffde5a)
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Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA0dJo0c.jpg&hash=26049dea4de50044510ba18683a0c847a7ffde5a)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: antonia on October 10, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
Post by: antonia on October 10, 2014, 08:15:32 AM
I'm jealous, congratulations on your new place, I'd say you pass in all of them but the first one would be my favorite :)
Quote from: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA0dJo0c.jpg&hash=26049dea4de50044510ba18683a0c847a7ffde5a)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 10, 2014, 08:23:44 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 10, 2014, 08:23:44 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA0dJo0c.jpg&hash=26049dea4de50044510ba18683a0c847a7ffde5a)
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All of them!
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 08:56:29 AM
Quote from: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
I agree with the others, you look just darling in all of them!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Well - finally got myself an image host account - sooooooo - here goes
be well
jennifer
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be well
jennifer
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 11:40:37 AM
Quote from: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 11:34:05 AM
Well - finally got myself an image host account - sooooooo - here goes
be well
jennifer
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Hey Jennifer!
Sure you could pass for a middle aged woman! You'd probably do well with a neck lift and upper eyelid lift like I did, makes the girl look years younger and gives you're self esteem a big boost.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 12:04:46 PM
Thanks for the comments but I am not overly fond of doctors and surgeries and will try and keep them to a minimum
be well
jennifer
be well
jennifer
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ImagineKate on October 10, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
Post by: ImagineKate on October 10, 2014, 12:08:37 PM
I think losing some of the weight may help too. You have what seems like a good foundation to start with though!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Post by: jennifer356 on October 10, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
that is a work in progress kate - I am down 45 lbs since I started losing and want to do another 45-50 over the next 9 months or so
jennifer
jennifer
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Post by: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Pre everything.
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pic upload (http://postimage.org/)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 06:37:41 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 06:37:41 PM
Quote from: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 05:47:44 PM
Pre everything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs30.postimg.org%2Fwu9bozcg1%2Fface.png&hash=14258851a7ac0c0655445866e92283f3f15a0310) (http://postimage.org/)
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Is that really your own hair! You have a cute face!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
Post by: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
Yea it's real and ty :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 10, 2014, 06:55:36 PM
Quote from: Ezra on October 10, 2014, 06:42:05 PM
Yea it's real and ty :D
What a mop, it's totally unfair! I have never experienced envy until now! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 10, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 10, 2014, 11:45:53 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AMWoW I just love your hair!!! You look very pretty hun. The changes have been significant since your last pics. You look great!! Congratulations on the new place too!!
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxqlIiPd.jpg&hash=49aa8c5343af5430aa2da46b5254499018680c76)
Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 10, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 10, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 12:19:06 AMHi Jade, You look good. Your Nice and thin too. You might try a lighter eyeshadow tho, or try blending a lighter color over a darker base. I just think it would look better with your skin tone. Experiment with different shades. Also, a dark brown eyeliner will do wonders for that finishing touch to really bring out your eyes. Makeup takes practice hun. You might try viewing some makeup tutorials on you tube. There's a real good one on there now on how to do "smokey eyes." In addition there are some very good ones on doing your eyebrows. I was taught by a professional stylist a few years back and I still find these video's very helpful. Especially with picking up on the latest trends and techniques.
I have only played with makeup a few times. I will get better at it I hope.
What do you think? :-*
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Ally :icon_flower:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on October 11, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
Post by: AnneB on October 11, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
Ok, I wasn't sure if I was going to do this or not, still pretty sure I cant pass, but, I bought this wig today, and for the very first time, I think, as least I have a chance to.. 12 mos & 2 days on HRT, 2 laser sessions only, no makeup, brows just thinned and arched, eh, it was 4pm so i could have used a shave... but.. this, has been the only thing in years that has calmed my dysphoria.. even just the possibility of passing.. I figured, FFS at a minimum, hairline, brows nose, upper lip, chin, jawline, trach shave..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps8e72b3b8.jpg&hash=dd485f0a43e3fff3f02a0dfec68ce67f1d3aaee5)
This wig I pick up Wednesday, it'll be dirty blonde, streaked, highlights.. this one fell/lay so perfectly, just the color was to mousy..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps999f88fd.jpg&hash=b2868dd00af3276129fb7d2872ca6e6f0c72009a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps8e72b3b8.jpg&hash=dd485f0a43e3fff3f02a0dfec68ce67f1d3aaee5)
This wig I pick up Wednesday, it'll be dirty blonde, streaked, highlights.. this one fell/lay so perfectly, just the color was to mousy..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps999f88fd.jpg&hash=b2868dd00af3276129fb7d2872ca6e6f0c72009a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 01:28:51 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 01:28:51 PM
Quote from: Allyda on October 10, 2014, 11:58:26 PM
Hi Jade, You look good. Your Nice and thin too. You might try a lighter eyeshadow tho, or try blending a lighter color over a darker base. I just think it would look better with your skin tone. Experiment with different shades. Also, a dark brown eyeliner will do wonders for that finishing touch to really bring out your eyes. Makeup takes practice hun. You might try viewing some makeup tutorials on you tube. There's a real good one on there now on how to do "smokey eyes." In addition there are some very good ones on doing your eyebrows. I was taught by a professional stylist a few years back and I still find these video's very helpful. Especially with picking up on the latest trends and techniques.
Ally :icon_flower:
Hi Ally,
Thanks for the tips! I did not touch my eyebrows, kind of afraid to. If I mess them up they would be hard to fix. I hope I can get a friend to help me do them. I will try out a brown eyeliner and some lighter shadow and maybe repost a pic at some point. Again thanks for the tips, it is so hard to judge oneself. I will look at youtube again, I just found most of the ones I watched were WAY to much makeup.. looks fake or plastic... I just want a subtle look, just want to blend in, not stand out.
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on October 11, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
Post by: Natalia on October 11, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
Days are getting too hot here on the south hemisphere as we approach summer...so, I'm finding myself suffering quite a bit because of my hair that is now on my shoulders.
As, on my particular case, hair makes a lot of difference on passing, does wearing it on a ponytail makes me look too masculine?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1800457_1557929111093214_7342851060883281958_n.jpg?oh=6aefcf065d7c331828d982fa43fcc061&oe=54B81746&__gda__=1421668001_bfc202874915fcd8b585b0235ed98613)
As, on my particular case, hair makes a lot of difference on passing, does wearing it on a ponytail makes me look too masculine?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1800457_1557929111093214_7342851060883281958_n.jpg?oh=6aefcf065d7c331828d982fa43fcc061&oe=54B81746&__gda__=1421668001_bfc202874915fcd8b585b0235ed98613)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 03:25:37 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 03:25:37 PM
Quote from: Natalia on October 11, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
Days are getting too hot here on the south hemisphere as we approach summer...so, I'm finding myself suffering quite a bit because of my hair that is now on my shoulders.
As, on my particular case, hair makes a lot of difference on passing, does wearing it on a ponytail makes me look too masculine?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1800457_1557929111093214_7342851060883281958_n.jpg?oh=6aefcf065d7c331828d982fa43fcc061&oe=54B81746&__gda__=1421668001_bfc202874915fcd8b585b0235ed98613)
It looks fine to me. Maybe find a cute hat, you can push your hair back. Shade you from the sun too so you don't get so hot.
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 03:37:14 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on October 11, 2014, 03:06:29 AM
Ok, I wasn't sure if I was going to do this or not, still pretty sure I cant pass, but, I bought this wig today, and for the very first time, I think, as least I have a chance to.. 12 mos & 2 days on HRT, 2 laser sessions only, no makeup, brows just thinned and arched, eh, it was 4pm so i could have used a shave... but.. this, has been the only thing in years that has calmed my dysphoria.. even just the possibility of passing.. I figured, FFS at a minimum, hairline, brows nose, upper lip, chin, jawline, trach shave..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps8e72b3b8.jpg&hash=dd485f0a43e3fff3f02a0dfec68ce67f1d3aaee5)
This wig I pick up Wednesday, it'll be dirty blonde, streaked, highlights.. this one fell/lay so perfectly, just the color was to mousy..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1370.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag262%2FPaulaC1958%2Fimage_zps999f88fd.jpg&hash=b2868dd00af3276129fb7d2872ca6e6f0c72009a)
From a distance , I think you'd pass. Makeup will help for closer up (and shave?). Is that a wig in the first picture? Can't tell. The second picture I would agree that the color is too mousy.. too dark.
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:52:22 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
You are a definite pass imo, but some advice I would give you is that you should try wearing your hair down. it is a very nice length. I would recommend a little bit of make up and possibly a hair band and you would be the most attractive amphibian(?) I have ever seen.
also you have beautiful blue eyes!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:55:05 PM
Quote from: Natalia on October 11, 2014, 02:30:26 PM
Days are getting too hot here on the south hemisphere as we approach summer...so, I'm finding myself suffering quite a bit because of my hair that is now on my shoulders.
As, on my particular case, hair makes a lot of difference on passing, does wearing it on a ponytail makes me look too masculine?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/s720x720/1800457_1557929111093214_7342851060883281958_n.jpg?oh=6aefcf065d7c331828d982fa43fcc061&oe=54B81746&__gda__=1421668001_bfc202874915fcd8b585b0235ed98613)
Hun I think people would pretty much have to be blind to think that you are anything but a women. You pass with you hair up or down it doesn't really matter.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 11, 2014, 06:58:33 PM
Quote from: AshleeLC on October 10, 2014, 03:16:47 AM
Finally have my own apartment, thought Id take some pictures :)
Which face pic do I pass/look best in? Dont count the body pic :3
Also, 9 months on HRT :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FA0dJo0c.jpg&hash=26049dea4de50044510ba18683a0c847a7ffde5a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FxqlIiPd.jpg&hash=49aa8c5343af5430aa2da46b5254499018680c76)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FOLTnJE8.jpg&hash=4bb900284a68a44894d79be441b84e274f1664e1)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FFgdn9Gd.jpg&hash=47ce6ed6ec9ef58fe2f47c1c702d54d60a0c0d6e)
HI ASHLEE!!!!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 07:07:48 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
! adorable !
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 11, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 11, 2014, 09:47:38 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PMYes, you pass 100%! Who does your hair?
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on October 11, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
Post by: stephaniec on October 11, 2014, 11:24:54 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PMtry some nice colorful bows in your hair
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 11, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 11, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
Will I have any luck passing? I tried to smile this time :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fxe39kw.jpg&hash=7f4417d93f82bab5da3d03411738426ff2db9323)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2njep0w.jpg&hash=75d231d75e6740090fc61f5ff7d1cb9aa6d0e286)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fxe39kw.jpg&hash=7f4417d93f82bab5da3d03411738426ff2db9323)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2njep0w.jpg&hash=75d231d75e6740090fc61f5ff7d1cb9aa6d0e286)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Quote from: Deinewelt on October 11, 2014, 11:49:11 PM
Will I have any luck passing? I tried to smile this time :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi60.tinypic.com%2Fxe39kw.jpg&hash=7f4417d93f82bab5da3d03411738426ff2db9323)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2njep0w.jpg&hash=75d231d75e6740090fc61f5ff7d1cb9aa6d0e286)
Smiles! Yay! I'd say you pass! so did my computer. Yay
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-6.56) ,yaw(-28.26) ,pitch(2.39)
race : white(0.51)
emotioin : happy:90%,surprised:11%
age : 22.97 ( value : 22.97 )
smile : true ( value : 0.75 )
glasses : with glass ( value : 0.98 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.23 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 81.18 ( value : 0.81188 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 12, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 12, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 11, 2014, 11:55:37 PM
Smiles! Yay! I'd say you pass! so did my computer. Yay
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-6.56) ,yaw(-28.26) ,pitch(2.39)
race : white(0.51)
emotioin : happy:90%,surprised:11%
age : 22.97 ( value : 22.97 )
smile : true ( value : 0.75 )
glasses : with glass ( value : 0.98 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.23 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 81.18 ( value : 0.81188 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Those are sweet numbers! Thanks. How does the program work?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 01:03:05 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 01:03:05 AM
Quote from: Deinewelt on October 12, 2014, 12:41:37 AM
Those are sweet numbers! Thanks. How does the program work?
It uses OpenCV, thats computer vision. It evaluates the image for distance between facial features as well as shades and shadowing. I pass it the image and it returns the vectors and the readout like I posted. I run it in the Processing language. If you look up openCV you can find more technical info on how it works. But it is basically turning the image into lines and vectors and layers and matches measurements to existing data. They use openCV for lots of things like tracking people and movement in public, tracking vehicles, reading license plates, etc.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 01:15:46 AM
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 01:15:46 AM
I'm not sure if this appropriate to post here, but I've yet to post a "normal" photo. This is as normal as it gets.. and with a day of stubble. A lot of dysphoria comes from my issues with my long chin/jaw.. and my low brows which funnily enough are traits I got from my mother.. anyway. I'm hoping hrt does something nice to this mess. :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ffug.jpg&hash=abd99c85d058a7d7c47fa7107d643b5e67995470) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/fug.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ffug.jpg&hash=abd99c85d058a7d7c47fa7107d643b5e67995470) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/fug.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
Quote from: ASoulBird on October 12, 2014, 01:15:46 AM
I'm not sure if this appropriate to post here, but I've yet to post a "normal" photo. This is as normal as it gets.. and with a day of stubble. A lot of dysphoria comes from my issues with my long chin/jaw.. and my low brows which funnily enough are traits I got from my mother.. anyway. I'm hoping hrt does something nice to this mess. :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ffug.jpg&hash=abd99c85d058a7d7c47fa7107d643b5e67995470) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/fug.jpg.html)
Yes you pass even in you "normal" state! Yay! What "mess"? Also my computer (openCV) says you pass. Here are the numbers it came up with. ( Jealous it rated your beauty higher than mine, way higher! :P )
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-1.1) ,yaw(19.41) ,pitch(8.71)
race :
white(0.98)
emotioin : calm:28%,angry:18%
age : 22.37 ( value : 22.37 )
smile : false ( value : 0.01 )
glasses : with glass ( value : 0.92 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.01 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 94.11 ( value : 0.94116 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
Well my first pic on the forum, sorry it is with makeup though. :icon_suspicious:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpsb424e630.jpg&hash=d2944f02159a751b2f4a74e1a3911c7a721dcfc8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg3_zps1d6b702c.jpg&hash=9d8b55ca13bc72f6c730468a63b33294572e2b9c)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpsb424e630.jpg&hash=d2944f02159a751b2f4a74e1a3911c7a721dcfc8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg3_zps1d6b702c.jpg&hash=9d8b55ca13bc72f6c730468a63b33294572e2b9c)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
Well my first pic on the forum, sorry it is with makeup though. :icon_suspicious:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpsb424e630.jpg&hash=d2944f02159a751b2f4a74e1a3911c7a721dcfc8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg3_zps1d6b702c.jpg&hash=9d8b55ca13bc72f6c730468a63b33294572e2b9c)
wow! you look great! I love that tie! hehe ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 12, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 12, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
That´s me, pre-HRT on all pics...
These were taken in Spring this year, wearing just a little make-up and a whig. Haircolor is similar to my natural haircolor. At the time the photos were taken, I just started with IPL on my "beard".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg&hash=6087b0c45e674911b418d14e8ffcc0bf1f86bd9e) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg&hash=00b15bb6ddae19f44d272cc0aa67e0e22dea42fe) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg&hash=d961197a7f3186b746000bfa7f9e5ed1d6de8fd0) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg.html)
This one is more recent, I started growing my hair out after finding a very sweet and nice hairdresser. This one has been taken just one month and half ago. Almost no make-up, just a little Mascara.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2FIMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg&hash=0e5280f73fd828c7a39be413584921e5c39a190f) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/IMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg.html)
Alright Gals, tell me what do you think? ::)
These were taken in Spring this year, wearing just a little make-up and a whig. Haircolor is similar to my natural haircolor. At the time the photos were taken, I just started with IPL on my "beard".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg&hash=6087b0c45e674911b418d14e8ffcc0bf1f86bd9e) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg&hash=00b15bb6ddae19f44d272cc0aa67e0e22dea42fe) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg&hash=d961197a7f3186b746000bfa7f9e5ed1d6de8fd0) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg.html)
This one is more recent, I started growing my hair out after finding a very sweet and nice hairdresser. This one has been taken just one month and half ago. Almost no make-up, just a little Mascara.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2FIMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg&hash=0e5280f73fd828c7a39be413584921e5c39a190f) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/IMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg.html)
Alright Gals, tell me what do you think? ::)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Quote from: ASoulBird on October 12, 2014, 01:15:46 AM
I'm not sure if this appropriate to post here, but I've yet to post a "normal" photo. This is as normal as it gets.. and with a day of stubble. A lot of dysphoria comes from my issues with my long chin/jaw.. and my low brows which funnily enough are traits I got from my mother.. anyway. I'm hoping hrt does something nice to this mess. :-\
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi237.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fff60%2FLoreenaMckennittfan%2Ffug.jpg&hash=abd99c85d058a7d7c47fa7107d643b5e67995470) (http://s237.photobucket.com/user/LoreenaMckennittfan/media/fug.jpg.html)
Very pretty, especially the shape of your lips!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 06:39:21 AM
wow! you look great! I love that tie! hehe ;D
Thanks Jade. Maybe I'm just subconsciously hanging onto male clothing habits with the tie ;)
Quote from: Anna-Maria on October 12, 2014, 08:44:29 AM
That´s me, pre-HRT on all pics...
These were taken in Spring this year, wearing just a little make-up and a whig. Haircolor is similar to my natural haircolor. At the time the photos were taken, I just started with IPL on my "beard".
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg&hash=6087b0c45e674911b418d14e8ffcc0bf1f86bd9e) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010f0f96db52c1d0338cc840536dc59b1652a3b9ec_zps3c2e30a7.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg&hash=00b15bb6ddae19f44d272cc0aa67e0e22dea42fe) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/015e9a40bb5b5c347c30da8942cc02184cd2c5dc77_zps5dd22efd.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2F010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg&hash=d961197a7f3186b746000bfa7f9e5ed1d6de8fd0) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/010d8bd753a51a7409757aac6fc833c38ea6be9985_zpsc78e7214.jpg.html)
This one is more recent, I started growing my hair out after finding a very sweet and nice hairdresser. This one has been taken just one month and half ago. Almost no make-up, just a little Mascara.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi45.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff92%2FAnneWagner1980%2FIMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg&hash=0e5280f73fd828c7a39be413584921e5c39a190f) (http://s45.photobucket.com/user/AnneWagner1980/media/IMG_1301_zpsd09a4d04.jpg.html)
Alright Gals, tell me what do you think? ::)
Looking great Anna, your skins lovely and once the hair grows out it'll make a big difference. You also have a great body.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 12, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 12, 2014, 08:57:49 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 08:56:13 AM
Thanks Jade. Maybe I'm just subconsciously hanging onto male clothing habits with the tie ;)
Looking great Anna, your skins lovely and once the hair grows out it'll make a big difference. You also have a great body.
Aww thank you!!! :-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 12:08:04 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 12:08:04 PM
Thanks for the cute complements ladies, always nice to have friends with a sense of humor! :icon_bunch:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on October 12, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Post by: tuuliu on October 12, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Looking fabulous BreezyB, nice taste overall ;) maybe work some on the eyebrows unless you like them thick? (oh and no problem passing based on these pics)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 06:30:11 AM
Well my first pic on the forum, sorry it is with makeup though. :icon_suspicious:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpsb424e630.jpg&hash=d2944f02159a751b2f4a74e1a3911c7a721dcfc8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg3_zps1d6b702c.jpg&hash=9d8b55ca13bc72f6c730468a63b33294572e2b9c)
You're lovely! I think hrt will do great things with your features! And to echo others, you have a nice body frame! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:14:18 PM
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:14:18 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 12, 2014, 05:27:21 AM
Yes you pass even in you "normal" state! Yay! What "mess"? Also my computer (openCV) says you pass. Here are the numbers it came up with. ( Jealous it rated your beauty higher than mine, way higher! :P )
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-1.1) ,yaw(19.41) ,pitch(8.71)
race :
white(0.98)
emotioin : calm:28%,angry:18%
age : 22.37 ( value : 22.37 )
smile : false ( value : 0.01 )
glasses : with glass ( value : 0.92 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.01 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 94.11 ( value : 0.94116 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
Thank you much for the kind words! Though, I'm not 100% sure what all if those numbers mean exactly, but the app seems like a great idea! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Post by: Damara on October 12, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Quote from: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 08:52:37 AM
Very pretty, especially the shape of your lips!
Why thank you! ^_^ I think my mouth is too small in relation to my face, but I try to not focus on that too much! lol!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 12, 2014, 06:48:14 PM
Quote from: ASoulBird on October 12, 2014, 05:16:22 PM
Why thank you! ^_^ I think my mouth is too small in relation to my face, but I try to not focus on that too much! lol!
You're pretty, deal with it honey!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Allyda on October 12, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
Post by: Allyda on October 12, 2014, 07:28:11 PM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 06:30:11 AMYour very cute! I love your hair! You have a very pretty face too!
Well my first pic on the forum, sorry it is with makeup though. :icon_suspicious:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg1_zpsb424e630.jpg&hash=d2944f02159a751b2f4a74e1a3911c7a721dcfc8)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1371.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fag314%2FBree_Campbell%2Fimagejpg3_zps1d6b702c.jpg&hash=9d8b55ca13bc72f6c730468a63b33294572e2b9c)
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 09:15:40 PM
Post by: BreezyB on October 12, 2014, 09:15:40 PM
Quote from: tuuliu on October 12, 2014, 02:43:05 PM
Looking fabulous BreezyB, nice taste overall ;) maybe work some on the eyebrows unless you like them thick? (oh and no problem passing based on these pics)
Thankyou Tuuliu, still working on my style but something like this is the core of my style. And yes, the brows need some work, I'm two days away from my monthly waxing session so things have gotten a little out of control lol.
Quote from: ASoulBird on October 12, 2014, 05:09:48 PM
You're lovely! I think hrt will do great things with your features! And to echo others, you have a nice body frame! :)
Thankyou AsoulBird, I started hrt 3.5 months ago so hoping to see some changes in the next few months. Will look to get some FFS done in the next 12 months also.
Quote from: Allyda on October 12, 2014, 07:28:11 PMThanks Ally, that's really sweet
Your very cute! I love your hair! You have a very pretty face too!
Ally ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill E on October 12, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
Post by: Jill E on October 12, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
I'm feeling a little nervous about posting this.. well actually, super nervous. :-\
I haven't posted pictures of myself on here before. I sometimes wonder whether I pass or am perceived as cisfemale, & I'm curious. I get ma'amed and I am referred to as a lady, but i just don't see it when i see myself. I tend to look differently in my head as I go about my day, than i do when i see a picture of myself or look in the mirror.
I took a couple pics on my IPad about a month ago that I'm okay with sharing.. I'm not wearing any makeup, so please be gentle. lol, just kidding about being gentle, please be brutal. That's what I'm looking for. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg&hash=af749ec56088c2b92bc48bc1e45fcb7061432475) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg&hash=80cd02994546741dc687747ccf93e445cce1cbce) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg.html)
This one has better light.. This is my mom and I meeting for lunch a couple weeks ago. I'm obviously on the left.. I am actually wearing mascara in this one, but i don't think you can tell. :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FV__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg&hash=7e5ef4daca0531aacbda2d4f4e5f08677c5009e9) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/V__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg.html)
I haven't posted pictures of myself on here before. I sometimes wonder whether I pass or am perceived as cisfemale, & I'm curious. I get ma'amed and I am referred to as a lady, but i just don't see it when i see myself. I tend to look differently in my head as I go about my day, than i do when i see a picture of myself or look in the mirror.
I took a couple pics on my IPad about a month ago that I'm okay with sharing.. I'm not wearing any makeup, so please be gentle. lol, just kidding about being gentle, please be brutal. That's what I'm looking for. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg&hash=af749ec56088c2b92bc48bc1e45fcb7061432475) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg&hash=80cd02994546741dc687747ccf93e445cce1cbce) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg.html)
This one has better light.. This is my mom and I meeting for lunch a couple weeks ago. I'm obviously on the left.. I am actually wearing mascara in this one, but i don't think you can tell. :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FV__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg&hash=7e5ef4daca0531aacbda2d4f4e5f08677c5009e9) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/V__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 13, 2014, 02:22:47 AM
Post by: Damara on October 13, 2014, 02:22:47 AM
Quote from: Jill E on October 12, 2014, 10:41:09 PM
I'm feeling a little nervous about posting this.. well actually, super nervous. :-\
I haven't posted pictures of myself on here before. I sometimes wonder whether I pass or am perceived as cisfemale, & I'm curious. I get ma'amed and I am referred to as a lady, but i just don't see it when i see myself. I tend to look differently in my head as I go about my day, than i do when i see a picture of myself or look in the mirror.
I took a couple pics on my IPad about a month ago that I'm okay with sharing.. I'm not wearing any makeup, so please be gentle. lol, just kidding about being gentle, please be brutal. That's what I'm looking for. :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg&hash=af749ec56088c2b92bc48bc1e45fcb7061432475) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1748_zps2e8c9e17.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FIMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg&hash=80cd02994546741dc687747ccf93e445cce1cbce) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/IMG_1751_zpsdd44820e.jpg.html)
This one has better light.. This is my mom and I meeting for lunch a couple weeks ago. I'm obviously on the left.. I am actually wearing mascara in this one, but i don't think you can tell. :P
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1292.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb580%2F8-bit_Jill%2FV__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg&hash=7e5ef4daca0531aacbda2d4f4e5f08677c5009e9) (http://s1292.photobucket.com/user/8-bit_Jill/media/V__2304_zps6ce47d18.jpg.html)
You look totally passable I think!! Your face has great feminine proportions and you look small framed.. jealous of your narrow shoulders. :) In an attempt at brutality I'd say the most masculine part of your face is your forehead area but even that, to me, is not out of a female range. :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: cutiepiedanielle on October 13, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Post by: cutiepiedanielle on October 13, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
No makeup, just threw on a dress and some heels. Thats my guy hair
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto2.jpg&hash=3acc51a049ae58d3733bd4a2fb5463fe8c23dac3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto5.jpg&hash=0b4c1cb668ded5da319340a5fa2a4ce8030db697)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto212-11-55-611.jpg&hash=4f5f1e88784e5f15f94d32c48f7a6faf6934b8d5)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto2.jpg&hash=3acc51a049ae58d3733bd4a2fb5463fe8c23dac3)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto5.jpg&hash=0b4c1cb668ded5da319340a5fa2a4ce8030db697)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi183.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fx55%2Fcutiepiedanielle69s%2Fphoto212-11-55-611.jpg&hash=4f5f1e88784e5f15f94d32c48f7a6faf6934b8d5)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Newgirl Dani on October 14, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
Post by: Newgirl Dani on October 14, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
Quote from: Shantel on October 11, 2014, 06:40:10 PM
Could I pass? I know I'm a bit homely and my hair is just such a mess, I can't do a thing with it. Advice will be appreciated..thanks!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimagizer.imageshack.us%2Fv2%2Fxq90%2F633%2F1zlVzH.jpg&hash=3165bf54e6ee87cb206a5fb8b222b427852a9939) (https://imageshack.com/i/hl1zlVzHj)
Any chance Shantel this pastime you have with sticking things in wall outlets will ever end? ;D Dani
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 14, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 14, 2014, 09:52:53 AM
Quote from: Newgirl Dani on October 14, 2014, 09:49:26 AM
Any chance Shantel this pastime you have with sticking things in wall outlets will ever end? ;D Dani
Waaaaa Hahaha :icon_evil_laugh:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
Post by: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
What are your thoughts? I'm Pre-hrt :( blood work next month so hopefully not too much longer. No makeup other then some eyeliner. Still need more laser to get rid of that stupid chin hair that just wont die already! got a cheap wig on but I'm liking the length of it. Any advice or tips to look more feminine? I mess around with makeup on the weekends but I don't really know what I'm doing, my beard always shows through and I feel like I just look like crap, or I start getting pimples after wearing it for a day, it's just a mess. I kind of don't want to bother with it till after I start hrt.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on October 14, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on October 14, 2014, 07:07:41 PM
You look fine!
To deal with the chin hair, try stretching your skin against the grain while shaving with the grain. Then apply some primer and then reddish concealer over the shadow areas. After that foundation.
To deal with the chin hair, try stretching your skin against the grain while shaving with the grain. Then apply some primer and then reddish concealer over the shadow areas. After that foundation.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on October 14, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on October 14, 2014, 07:24:09 PM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
What are your thoughts? I'm Pre-hrt :( blood work next month so hopefully not too much longer. No makeup other then some eyeliner. Still need more laser to get rid of that stupid chin hair that just wont die already! got a cheap wig on but I'm liking the length of it. Any advice or tips to look more feminine? I mess around with makeup on the weekends but I don't really know what I'm doing, my beard always shows through and I feel like I just look like crap, or I start getting pimples after wearing it for a day, it's just a mess. I kind of don't want to bother with it till after I start hrt.
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Maybe you should try use a different foundation... Maybe try with something oil free like neutrogena or something. That wig is a mess lol I would suggest you to brush it start from the bottom so that less hair are gonna fall from it, and maybe style it a bit. For tips, maybe you can get another wig, get rid of the facial hair and experiment with make up. It take time for you to get good at it. I'm not nearly as good as a lot of other women, but I'm better now than the first time I applied eyeliner... PRACTICE PRACTICE AND PRACTICE. Also work on voice and mannerism, don't wait for HRT. You do have some feminine feature, really small arms and shoulders for example. After some months of HRT you will pass without problems! Good luck
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on October 14, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on October 14, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
Quote from: cutiepiedanielle on October 13, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
No makeup, just threw on a dress and some heels. Thats my guy hair
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Well your lucky enough to have somewhat long hair, just style them differently to get a more feminine look, and without make up it's kinda hard to pass... Are you on HRT? The dress is really cute :) too black though you should wear black on the top and something colorful on the bottom to make the appearance of a bigger bottom and smaller top are I think... Good luck on your transition!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
Post by: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
Thanks! :) yea the wig was about $5 I really don't care about it i just got it to get an idea of what I would look like with long hair. Right now I'm just buying the cheapest things I can get until I figure out my size, style and to get a basic idea of how I'll look. I've also tried the red lipstick trick but its too red and makes me look like a clown.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on October 14, 2014, 08:25:01 PM
Post by: Brenda E on October 14, 2014, 08:25:01 PM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
Thanks! :) yea the wig was about $5 I really don't care about it i just got it to get an idea of what I would look like with long hair. Right now I'm just buying the cheapest things I can get until I figure out my size, style and to get a basic idea of how I'll look. I've also tried the red lipstick trick but its too red and makes me look like a clown.
Good call on spending very little money while you're finding your size and style, but don't get so cheap that you end up working with stuff that's absolute crap. I speak from experience; the $5 wigs look like $5 wigs, and for not too much more money, you can easily find a far higher-quality wig that'll do wonders for your appearance. Same with the makeup: I used to buy dollar store stuff in order to practice, but it was just such total crap that not even a professional model would look good in it; your average name-brand stuff from the local chain pharmacy isn't that much more expensive, but it looks a thousand times better.
That said, the hair color suits you, as does the length, but something a touch shorter and easier to manage might work better; you have quite a feminine face already, as well as a slender build, and no real need to detract from your natural features by hiding behind cute locks. Glasses are an easy fix - there's plenty of far more feminine styles out there. Beard showing? Yeah, that's probably the biggest flaw right now, but you already know that. My trick? Er, shave as close as possible, find a concealer that matches the skin color, slather it on, wait for it to dry, slather it on again, wait for it to dry, then put on the foundation. Sure, it makes me look like I'm wearing a mask, but for the occasional selfie or dysphoria-reliving binge, it's good enough. The good news is that laser would probably work very well on your beard given your hair color and skin tone. Once the laser thins the beard, you can be far more subtle with the makeup, and it's a huge boost to one's confidence.
Overall though, once you start munching those hormones, you're going to turn out extremely cute. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: cutiepiedanielle on October 14, 2014, 10:12:40 PM
Post by: cutiepiedanielle on October 14, 2014, 10:12:40 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on October 14, 2014, 07:26:22 PM
Well your lucky enough to have somewhat long hair, just style them differently to get a more feminine look, and without make up it's kinda hard to pass... Are you on HRT? The dress is really cute :) too black though you should wear black on the top and something colorful on the bottom to make the appearance of a bigger bottom and smaller top are I think... Good luck on your transition!
No HRT
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Tsfabienne on October 15, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
Post by: Tsfabienne on October 15, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
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Hey there,
I am already on hormones for approx 6 months. Letting my hair grow for almost a year now. I am seriously considering FFS.
What do you think? Is there potential?
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Hey there,
I am already on hormones for approx 6 months. Letting my hair grow for almost a year now. I am seriously considering FFS.
What do you think? Is there potential?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on October 15, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
Post by: Brenda E on October 15, 2014, 08:41:39 AM
Quote from: Tsfabienne on October 15, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
What do you think? Is there potential?
Absolutely. In photos 2 and 3, you look unquestionably female. Give the hormones the time they need to work, then use FFS to iron out any remaining problems. Not only do you have potential, you also have some pretty results right now.
Love the hair, by the way.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 15, 2014, 09:19:34 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 15, 2014, 09:19:34 AM
Quote from: Tsfabienne on October 15, 2014, 07:55:52 AMAbsolutely and I agree,Pics 2 and 3 look female. I would shape your eyebrows and try styling your hair as it looks quite long- I'm sooo jealous. There's a lot that is merely an I.lusion with looking female, both eyes and hair both add to the illusion.
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Hey there,
I am already on hormones for approx 6 months. Letting my hair grow for almost a year now. I am seriously considering FFS.
What do you think? Is there potential?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on October 15, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on October 15, 2014, 05:18:27 PM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 07:34:40 PM
Thanks! :) yea the wig was about $5 I really don't care about it i just got it to get an idea of what I would look like with long hair. Right now I'm just buying the cheapest things I can get until I figure out my size, style and to get a basic idea of how I'll look. I've also tried the red lipstick trick but its too red and makes me look like a clown.
Girl the wig I got on is a $5 wig and it looks better than yours. I mean you can get a better wig for cheap, and you should practice with make up anyway and try something natural because usually women don't wear a lot of make up if it's not a special occasion... It's hard to get good at it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Post by: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Got new glasses, and I've been sort of practicing a bit with makeup.
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Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
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Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 17, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Post by: Stephanie00Rayne on October 17, 2014, 12:07:09 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Got new glasses, and I've been sort of practicing a bit with makeup.
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Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
I think you look pretty femme in the 2nd and 3rd pics. You look great to me! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
Post by: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 03:07:51 PM
Do you think? Thank you. I just don't see it. I guess it's the same for everyone, your brain just sees a man no matter what.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 03:12:01 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 03:12:01 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Got new glasses, and I've been sort of practicing a bit with makeup.
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Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
My computer thinks you are female and very beautiful. This is for Pic 1.
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-1.9) ,yaw(-4.94) ,pitch(11.05)
race :white(0.85)
emotioin : happy:97%,calm:1%
age : 27.42 ( value : 27.42 )
smile : true ( value : 0.96 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.01 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 31% ( value : 0.31 )
beauty : 93.34 ( value : 0.93348 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
The closer the "Gender" value is to 1 the more male the computer rates you. Yours has a value of zero, so the computer is seeing no male characteristics in pic 1. The other 2 pics also rated zero "female" for gender.
You look great!
-Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
The first pic, your profile pic is great Here is how computer rated you.
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-18.34) ,yaw(-17) ,pitch(-4.77)
race :
white(0.44)
emotioin : happy:73%,confused:7%
age : 28.62 ( value : 28.62 )
smile : true ( value : 0.92 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0.3 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.08 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0.01 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 52.18 ( value : 0.5218 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
In the last pic the Gender rating still was female but not completely. (I don't have time to run all the pics)
gender : female ( value : 0.41 )
as the number gets closer to 1 the more "male" the computer rates you. Closer to zero = more female.
I love your profile pic!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Lostkitten on October 17, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
Post by: Lostkitten on October 17, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
Quote from: KateSinclair on October 17, 2014, 03:35:12 PM
Okay, everyone. Here goes! What do you think? :) Positives? Negatives? Yes, I'm nervous, but please be brutally honest. I'm pre... well, everything. I'll probably start HRT in the next month or so. Same with laser hair removal. I'm working on growing out my natural hair (same color). And yes, I've been working on taking some weight off. I'm about 10 pounds lighter, now, than when these were taken. Thank you all in advance :)
I personally think that wigs are easy to see trough and thus easier to see if something is going on. But that is me :O! So it is good you are growing out your natural hair ^^. Other than that you will do just fine :D! I like the third image ^^.
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 03:59:25 PM
The first pic, your profile pic is great Here is how computer rated you.
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-18.34) ,yaw(-17) ,pitch(-4.77)
race :
white(0.44)
emotioin : happy:73%,confused:7%
age : 28.62 ( value : 28.62 )
smile : true ( value : 0.92 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0.3 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.08 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0.01 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 52.18 ( value : 0.5218 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
In the last pic the Gender rating still was female but not completely. (I don't have time to run all the pics)
gender : female ( value : 0.41 )
as the number gets closer to 1 the more "male" the computer rates you. Closer to zero = more female.
I love your profile pic!
I am.. confused.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 17, 2014, 08:51:00 PM
Quote from: Kirey on October 17, 2014, 07:16:15 PM
I personally think that wigs are easy to see trough and thus easier to see if something is going on. But that is me :O! So it is good you are growing out your natural hair ^^. Other than that you will do just fine :D! I like the third image ^^.
I am.. confused.
I am working on a program that does facial recognition and it also evaluates other attributes of the subjects, IE gender, emotion, race, etc. So I was linking in what my computer evaluated the images as.
Love,
Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 17, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Post by: BreezyB on October 17, 2014, 09:41:57 PM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AMYour looking great and very femme. Are you on HRT?
Got new glasses, and I've been sort of practicing a bit with makeup.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1378.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah94%2Fphonicparty%2FIMAG0505_zpsd78130ec.jpg&hash=c399ad56156d15219bf8e8174d28bb0014dd5fc0)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1378.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah94%2Fphonicparty%2FIMAG0501_zps5466b7a5.jpg&hash=a55d65401b5d2a58fe7288c0dfc45fefb05ca8f1)(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1378.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fah94%2Fphonicparty%2FIMAG0506_zps1a383557.jpg&hash=c898424df9fa3888bc796f741823f4cf04a12085)
Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
Quote from: KateSinclair on October 17, 2014, 03:35:12 PMI would agree with Kirey, I think wigs whilst very good do need to suit well to not look like a wig. I have the same problem while I grow my natural hair out so really need a really good quality wig if I'm to pull of the hair right now. But apart from the wig, and considering your pre hrt your looking great. You'll do very well on HRT and your focussing on all the right things. Get into shape as best you can before starting HRT as its a lot harder to shift the weight on E.
Okay, everyone. Here goes! What do you think? :) Positives? Negatives? Yes, I'm nervous, but please be brutally honest. I'm pre... well, everything. I'll probably start HRT in the next month or so. Same with laser hair removal. I'm working on growing out my natural hair (same color). And yes, I've been working on taking some weight off. I'm about 10 pounds lighter, now, than when these were taken. Thank you all in advance :)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Just got some new, more feminine glasses.
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What do you think?
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What do you think?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Brutally honest? No, no, no no.
People here seem to rate people assuming the people will go to a gay club in L.A. or somewhere with lots of acceptance. for me, unless I think you could pass to a farmer in Cambodia and a gay hating kkk member in Tennessee, that's a no. And that's the only fair way to judge.
People here seem to rate people assuming the people will go to a gay club in L.A. or somewhere with lots of acceptance. for me, unless I think you could pass to a farmer in Cambodia and a gay hating kkk member in Tennessee, that's a no. And that's the only fair way to judge.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:23:11 PM
Quote from: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:01:49 PM
Just got some new, more feminine glasses.
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What do you think?
In those pictures? You look like a slightly effeminate guy. Your hairline looks to be up really high unless it's the camera angle. You didn't shave very well and you didn't seem to cover the moustache with makeup either. If you did use makeup it's way too little. Isee you used some mascara but I think most people wouldn't even notice it. Your face looks kind of muscular which definitely isn't feminine. Don't worry though, you can get botox for your jaw muscles and almost any place in your face and it's not expensive :) do you have any other pics?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:28:55 PM
Quote from: cutiepiedanielle on October 13, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
No makeup, just threw on a dress and some heels. Thats my guy hair
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Like you said yourself,a guy in a dress.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:35:13 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:35:13 PM
Quote from: Tsfabienne on October 15, 2014, 07:55:52 AM
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Hey there,
I am already on hormones for approx 6 months. Letting my hair grow for almost a year now. I am seriously considering FFS.
What do you think? Is there potential?
With ffs, there's potential. Without? No.
You should also really practice doing your makeup.. and the eyebrows don't look good like that. Girls can have thick eyebrows too if they're styled..But not like that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:46:58 PM
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:46:58 PM
Quote from: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 04:35:13 PM
With ffs, there's potential. Without? No.
You should also really practice doing your makeup.. and the eyebrows don't look good like that. Girls can have thick eyebrows too if they're styled..But not like that.
I wonder. Have you actually posted any positive feedback?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Post by: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 18, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 18, 2014, 05:26:15 PM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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Oh cripes honey, get over in the Fabulous thread! :icon_bunch:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 05:47:52 PM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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You pass easily and you don't even seem to be wearing a lot of makeup. That's amazing :)
Edit: I can see a bit of Adam's apple but I don't think it's a masculine amount. Your face shows some masculine features but considering your apparent age, nothing out of the norm for women your age.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on October 18, 2014, 05:49:51 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on October 18, 2014, 05:49:51 PM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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Yes. Yes, yes, yes, yes! :)
Great pics, and yes you do pass.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
Quote from: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 04:46:58 PM
I wonder. Have you actually posted any positive feedback?
positive lies hurt more than negative ones. If you're pretty and someone liesyyou're ugly, you'll be positively surprised when you find out the truth. If you're lied that you're pretty, you only have a horrible disappointment and letdown and possibly a crumbling off your whole self esteem to look forward to when you'll encounter people who aren't afraid to tell the truth. But the person who lied to you that you're pretty/passable will live in blissful ignorance and never stop feeling good about their lies...
Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't see some things either than seen obvious to other people. I think we all have our blind spots. And I am really critical, someone else might not see what I see :)
Ps I have posted positive feedback in another thread too
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
Post by: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 06:29:10 PM
Thanks y'all.
And butterflies, yeah, I'm 51, so not too bad for that age, I guess. There is still a lot I don't like about my face, but gonna live with it, ffs is too expensive for me and I'm scared of something going wrong.
And butterflies, yeah, I'm 51, so not too bad for that age, I guess. There is still a lot I don't like about my face, but gonna live with it, ffs is too expensive for me and I'm scared of something going wrong.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 06:31:19 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 06:31:19 PM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 06:29:10 PMHonestly the hair helps a lot and your age forgives a lot. You're right,ffs carries risks, especially in older people. It gets pretty risky after 40.
Thanks y'all.
And butterflies, yeah, I'm 51, so not too bad for that age, I guess. There is still a lot I don't like about my face, but gonna live with it, ffs is too expensive for me and I'm scared of something going wrong.
Oh and your smile helps a lot. It makes your cheeks look really nice :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
Post by: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
Quote from: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 05:56:20 PM
positive lies hurt more than negative ones. If you're pretty and someone liesyyou're ugly, you'll be positively surprised when you find out the truth. If you're lied that you're pretty, you only have a horrible disappointment and letdown and possibly a crumbling off your whole self esteem to look forward to when you'll encounter people who aren't afraid to tell the truth. But the person who lied to you that you're pretty/passable will live in blissful ignorance and never stop feeling good about their lies...
Then again, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I don't see some things either than seen obvious to other people. I think we all have our blind spots. And I am really critical, someone else might not see what I see :)
Ps I have posted positive feedback in another thread too
Just wondering. You tore into me pretty hard, and was equally hypercritical to two other posters. if it was just me, I would have just shrugged it off and not said anything. I mean, I know I don't pass. I probably never will. This is the most feminine I've ever gotten. I don't have gobs of money to do surgery on my face (not that I would want to, anyway) to make me passable. Hell, I don't have any money to buy any kind of makeup, so I make do with what I have. I mean, I've come a long way from where I've been (imagine Uncle Fester) and I have a long way to go still, and every once in a while I like to test the waters to see what people have to say. Usually it's a bit more constructive than OMGZORZ! FAIL! YOU NEED BOTOX AND FFS! MY SCREEN IS MELTING!!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Post by: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Hi butterflies, what do you think of my avatar pic? Pictriev rated it 99% feminine, but I have my doubts. What are your thoughts?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 07:15:34 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 07:15:34 PM
Quote from: Shodan on October 18, 2014, 06:41:29 PM
Just wondering. You tore into me pretty hard, and was equally hypercritical to two other posters. if it was just me, I would have just shrugged it off and not said anything. I mean, I know I don't pass. I probably never will. This is the most feminine I've ever gotten. I don't have gobs of money to do surgery on my face (not that I would want to, anyway) to make me passable. Hell, I don't have any money to buy any kind of makeup, so I make do with what I have. I mean, I've come a long way from where I've been (imagine Uncle Fester) and I have a long way to go still, and every once in a while I like to test the waters to see what people have to say. Usually it's a bit more constructive than OMGZORZ! FAIL! YOU NEED BOTOX AND FFS! MY SCREEN IS MELTING!!!!
I'm sorry. I didn't mean to hurt you. I've been hurt too. I've been hurt by people who told me I looked pretty at a point when I really didn't. And I had the money to do something about it if people had told me what to fix instead of lying to me :/ it's one thing to have thread for compliments only where everyone gets to feel good even if they're not in a good place. But this is just a normal PYP& get rated thread and in those I imagine ppl want honesty. People who actually have a reason to worry about passing ESPECIALLY.
I really didn't mean it that badly though, sorry if it came off that way :/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
Quote from: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:00:22 PM
Hi butterflies, what do you think of my avatar pic? Pictriev rated it 99% feminine, but I have my doubts. What are your thoughts?
You pass. :) you look like a woman. Though your jawline isn't so great..did you get your nose done? :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 09, 2014, 12:19:06 AM
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Hi Butterflies, I like your brutal honesty. So give this one a go! Yes I know i have been cursed with a huge adams apple and I will need that fixed for sure. I am scared of doctors, so as little FFS as possible is what I am hoping. My computer rates me female 98% of the time even without makeup. We all know not to trust computers tho, thats how skynet takes over...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Post by: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Quote from: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 07:22:18 PM
You pass. :) you look like a woman. Though your jawline isn't so great..did you get your nose done? :)
Yes, I agree that my jaw needs some improvement, but at 51, I'm not complaining too much :)
And yes, I did have my nose done.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 08:16:37 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 08:16:37 PM
Quote from: missymay on October 18, 2014, 07:57:51 PM
Yes, I agree that my jaw needs some improvement, but at 51, I'm not complaining too much :)
And yes, I did have my nose done.
See? My eyes aren't that bad after all :D
Still, it's just my opinion. Different ppl see things differently. But I honestly doubt anyone would see you as anything but a woman based on those pics.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 08:36:00 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 08:36:00 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 07:57:36 PM
Hi Butterflies, I like your brutal honesty. So give this one a go! Yes I know i have been cursed with a huge adams apple and I will need that fixed for sure. I am scared of doctors, so as little FFS as possible is what I am hoping. My computer rates me female 98% of the time even without makeup. We all know not to trust computers tho, thats how skynet takes over...if
You're not awful but not completely passable either. Your second pic is better in every way. Do you see that upside down split V like / \ between your eyebrows? Genetic females rarely get that or if they do the lines are a lot thinner. Females tend to get more vertical lines though. Your chin is pretty bad, you should have half cut right off. But not straight off (U shape) then you'll have an even more masculine jaw. You need to cut it into a gentle v shape. Korea is good for that but not the popular clinics. Just do a lot of research before even
considering it. Don't trust US surgeons for your face. They have almost no experience because it's a taboo In the west. Especially in America where anything but"you're beautiful just the way you are" is blasphemy. YOUR welcome to pm me about this but I won't recommend a single clinic to you. Instead, I'll help you do research if it's really what you want. And you can ask me for an opinion about any clinic in Seoul. I will tell you what I know if I know that clinic.
Your nose looks like a certain Brazilian fruit that's both eaten and used for making instruments. It's a typical male nose. You'd want to get it done too. Since you don't want multiple operations you could get it done at the same time but then you'd have a hard time breathing. And it's better to use a doctor who specializes in what you want,a nose doctor for nose and maxillofacial specialist (very highly specialized dental surgeon) for your jaw. Anything else IF too risky especially :in your a so if you want both you'll have to suffer two surgeries. Your upper body is androgynous but not exactly male. Did you used to do drugs? eating disorder? I hope neither.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: sam79 on October 18, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Post by: sam79 on October 18, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Butterflies, I don't wish to read anything into the way you're conducting yourself here, but it's not in a sensitive and supportive manner. Even having the courage to publicly post an image here is truly courageous. It's so hard to put yourself out there when confidence is lacking. Do your words hinder or support the confidence of the women here? I'm sure you can read between the lines.
The women here putting themselves out there need to feel unjudged and supported. And it takes a great deal of sensitivity and understanding to be able to provide honest and supportive feedback.
Your is but one voice. Coming across without the sentivity needed. Coming across with a sense of authority. It's not helpful.
Please think before you type. The women here need love and support. Even if a little sugar coated, responses have to be kind and sensitive.
The women here putting themselves out there need to feel unjudged and supported. And it takes a great deal of sensitivity and understanding to be able to provide honest and supportive feedback.
Your is but one voice. Coming across without the sentivity needed. Coming across with a sense of authority. It's not helpful.
Please think before you type. The women here need love and support. Even if a little sugar coated, responses have to be kind and sensitive.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 09:41:22 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 09:41:22 PM
Thanks Butterflies,
I appreciate your input. I asked for brutal. Honestly if I could just pass as even an ugly girl that would be fine. Sick of confusing people. I am 40 years old and have chronic Lymes Disease, I do not heal well. Drastic surgeries are out of the question. Took 9 month to heal a broken rib last year, ruined all my summer fun :( Doctors botched my special "package" when I was a baby so ANY visit to a doctor is traumatic for me. I will get a trach shave and probably botox to fix the / \ which is from 40 years of scowling to come off as male and tough. I am not on HRT yet and I doubt it will do much to my old ugly face anyway once I do get on it. My nose was broken 3 times, and yeah I hate it, but its mine and I am gonna live with it. I know chicks with bigger manlier noses, haha! I don't care to be beautiful, or to look like a hot chick or anything, I am too old for that. I would not trust US surgeons for ANYTHING, but thanks for the tip. I don't go out much or deal with the public in my job so I can probably get by with just barely passing. I also have the night on my side since I am always up at night and asleep during day. Again thanks for your valuable input, mostly I would worry about getting beat down for being a freak which has happened once. Hell I was not even trying to present as female then.
I appreciate your input. I asked for brutal. Honestly if I could just pass as even an ugly girl that would be fine. Sick of confusing people. I am 40 years old and have chronic Lymes Disease, I do not heal well. Drastic surgeries are out of the question. Took 9 month to heal a broken rib last year, ruined all my summer fun :( Doctors botched my special "package" when I was a baby so ANY visit to a doctor is traumatic for me. I will get a trach shave and probably botox to fix the / \ which is from 40 years of scowling to come off as male and tough. I am not on HRT yet and I doubt it will do much to my old ugly face anyway once I do get on it. My nose was broken 3 times, and yeah I hate it, but its mine and I am gonna live with it. I know chicks with bigger manlier noses, haha! I don't care to be beautiful, or to look like a hot chick or anything, I am too old for that. I would not trust US surgeons for ANYTHING, but thanks for the tip. I don't go out much or deal with the public in my job so I can probably get by with just barely passing. I also have the night on my side since I am always up at night and asleep during day. Again thanks for your valuable input, mostly I would worry about getting beat down for being a freak which has happened once. Hell I was not even trying to present as female then.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 09:49:44 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 09:49:44 PM
Quote from: SammyRose on October 18, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Butterflies, I don't wish to read anything into the way you're conducting yourself here, but it's not in a sensitive and supportive manner. Even having the courage to publicly post an image here is truly courageous. It's so hard to put yourself out there when confidence is lacking. Do your words hinder or support the confidence of the women here? I'm sure you can read between the lines.
The women here putting themselves out there need to feel unjudged and supported. And it takes a great deal of sensitivity and understanding to be able to provide honest and supportive feedback.
Your is but one voice. Coming across without the sentivity needed. Coming across with a sense of authority. It's not helpful.
Please think before you type. The women here need love and support. Even if a little sugar coated, responses have to be kind and sensitive.
I do agree that maybe some "sugar" could be added. I have a hard time saying anything that might come across as mean to anyone. Others flow that naturally. I think that in a way butterflies posts are a good indicator of how others in society will view us. I am strong enough to handle the critique, but others may not be. So yeah, maybe just not so brutal in your honesty butterflies? Maybe slightly brutal? It does take a ton of courage to even post a pic here. In butterflies defense I did ask specifically for their input and I knew it would be brutal, hehe.
Love Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 18, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 18, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
While brutal honesty is on the table-how about me, going my my profile pic? What more can I do? I'm two years into hormones right now, and surgery is NOT on the table-I'm an artist, and there is not going to be any money in my future once I graduate. And PLEASE, Don't tell me I do pass, because I know for a fact that I don't. Frankly, while insensitivity might be hurtful, this thread has a HUGE amount of sugar coating. I don't need afirmation folks, I need honesty and advice as to how I can fix it. Thanks!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 11:02:21 PM
Quote from: SammyRose on October 18, 2014, 09:30:58 PM
Butterflies, I don't wish to read anything into the way you're conducting yourself here, but it's not in a sensitive and supportive manner. Even having the courage to publicly post an image here is truly courageous. It's so hard to put yourself out there when confidence is lacking. Do your words hinder or support the confidence of the women here? I'm sure you can read between the lines.
The women here putting themselves out there need to feel unjudged and supported. And it takes a great deal of sensitivity and understanding to be able to provide honest and supportive feedback.
Your is but one voice. Coming across without the sentivity needed. Coming across with a sense of authority. It's not helpful.
Please think before you type. The women here need love and support. Even if a little sugar coated, responses have to be kind and sensitive.
Yes, more courageous than I could do,I have no problem admitting that. I mean, I've submitted my pictures to heterosexual men, some even from the boondocks of the most judgmental people imaginable, so I guess I'm my own kind of courageous. But that took a lot out of me so...it's not easy for anyone. Anyway, the real world isn't sugar coated. I see some really heavy handed sugar coating here which I'd call dousing in maple syrup and caramel sauce until you can't see what's underneath. If I looked like some people here and got the comments they got and went out in false confidence only to face looks and whispers and giggles and talk, I'd consider those people not only not my friends but some of the cruelest people around. I'd consider their syrupy words an act of despising and hatred. I like to go by results rather than intent. You know what they say about good intent and paving roads...
Still, I'm sorry if I offended anyone without offering anything positive.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
Post by: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 11:11:58 PM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 09:49:44 PMThat's exactly what I want to offer! Unlike most of you, I'm adapted to the mean, judgmental society (well more than one ) that is the society as it currently stands.is it great and wonderful? No, it is what it is, but iI livein it and iI like it to an extent. I enjoy being part of it as someone relatively normal. I mean, I can be a weird girl and I always have been
I do agree that maybe some "sugar" could be added. I have a hard time saying anything that might come across as mean to anyone. Others flow that naturally. I think that in a way butterflies posts are a good indicator of how others in society will view us. I am strong enough to handle the critique, but others may not be. So yeah, maybe just not so brutal in your honesty butterflies? Maybe slightly brutal? It does take a ton of courage to even post a pic here. In butterflies defense I did ask specifically for their input and I knew it would be brutal, hehe.
Love Jade
I can't be a weird trans and I can't be proud of a fault. No one should be proud of a mental illness, birth defect, or anything like that. I'm not sorry to say I don't think that will make the world a better place.
So that's what I want to offer. How the world sees you.not how some people in California see you.how people from Arabia to Cambodia see you. How Joe the coon tailor in Alaska sees you. How Mark the deer hunter in Kentucky sees you.
Otherwise you'll always be living in a tiny little bubble isolated from the mean world outside. But the thing about bubbles is...eventually they burst. And the bigger the bubble, the more it hurts.
My previous post wasn't submitted completely. The nurses took out my drains so I was kinda busy... I edited it.
I'll try a light sugar coating then... But if anyone doesn't want me in this thread, that's fine. Really, I'm not against censorship either :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
Quote from: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 08:36:00 PM
Your upper body is androgynous but not exactly male. Did you used to do drugs? eating disorder? I hope neither.
I never did drugs except a little weed once in a while. No eating disorder. I got bitten by a tick and contracted Lymes disease. Was very sick for a few years. Lost 30 pounds of muscle mass I had spent years to build up to appear more male. I got neurological damage as well. I may have an intersex condition too. I will be undergoing tests soon to know for sure. I always have been mistaken for a girl... used to hate it, now I want to embrace it.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 19, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 19, 2014, 12:02:21 AM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 18, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
While brutal honesty is on the table-how about me, going my my profile pic? What more can I do? I'm two years into hormones right now, and surgery is NOT on the table-I'm an artist, and there is not going to be any money in my future once I graduate. And PLEASE, Don't tell me I do pass, because I know for a fact that I don't. Frankly, while insensitivity might be hurtful, this thread has a HUGE amount of sugar coating. I don't need afirmation folks, I need honesty and advice as to how I can fix it. Thanks!
Honestly I think you look cute... from just that picture I would guess female. My computer program does not even see a face in that image, which is kinda cool tbh.
Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:09:51 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:09:51 AM
I HATE this device I'm using the forum on. I HATE IT HATE IT HATE IT.
sorry haha..had to get that out..
I wrote a really long reply.also sorry about the delay I
. I was eating lunch. Thai herbal soup, chicken
and and rice with hoi sin sauce and chili sauce. Yummy.
I wrote a really long reply. It's gone...
...
I'll just give you the highlights.
Your \_/ jaw is really masculine. if you can't shell out the 5-6 grand to fix it (if it's just the chin you might get away with 4 but idk) other than surgery, makeup contouring. You're an artist, you should know how to make angular round by blending light and shadow... Try with lighter and darker makeup powder, bronzer and even the right shade of matte blush. Your eyes
are small and masculine edit: no they're not! Their shape is actually nice! But your dark under eyes and your eyebrows first gave me that impression. I had to look again!. Just thinning your eyebrows and/or using a makeup/eyeliner pen on them won't make them feminine. There are tutorials online for doing your eyeshadow and eye brows according to the shape and angle of your eyes.find them. Bigger eyes, liquid eyeliner, white eyeshadow and in your case, fake lashes are your new best friends.blend, blend, blend. All good makeup has soft transitions. there are many tutorials for bigger eyes. Under eyes... light eyeshadow, other wise you'll look old and tired and masculine too. It's not pretty. Watch out for putting makeup powder under your eyes. Use it very lightly. Otherwise the eyeshadow cakes and actually enhances the wrinkles.
The hairstyle is feminine but unless you're a50yo divorced french woman living in her drab apartment where she never turns on the lightsand chain smokes listening to edith piaf, you shouldn't use it. The color makes it worse. The lipsticks screams... I'm sorry, no, writing it here would be too offensive.
Don't ever use that lipstick.ever.
Bb
sorry haha..had to get that out..
I wrote a really long reply.also sorry about the delay I
. I was eating lunch. Thai herbal soup, chicken
and and rice with hoi sin sauce and chili sauce. Yummy.
I wrote a really long reply. It's gone...
...
I'll just give you the highlights.
Your \_/ jaw is really masculine. if you can't shell out the 5-6 grand to fix it (if it's just the chin you might get away with 4 but idk) other than surgery, makeup contouring. You're an artist, you should know how to make angular round by blending light and shadow... Try with lighter and darker makeup powder, bronzer and even the right shade of matte blush. Your eyes
are small and masculine edit: no they're not! Their shape is actually nice! But your dark under eyes and your eyebrows first gave me that impression. I had to look again!. Just thinning your eyebrows and/or using a makeup/eyeliner pen on them won't make them feminine. There are tutorials online for doing your eyeshadow and eye brows according to the shape and angle of your eyes.find them. Bigger eyes, liquid eyeliner, white eyeshadow and in your case, fake lashes are your new best friends.blend, blend, blend. All good makeup has soft transitions. there are many tutorials for bigger eyes. Under eyes... light eyeshadow, other wise you'll look old and tired and masculine too. It's not pretty. Watch out for putting makeup powder under your eyes. Use it very lightly. Otherwise the eyeshadow cakes and actually enhances the wrinkles.
The hairstyle is feminine but unless you're a50yo divorced french woman living in her drab apartment where she never turns on the lightsand chain smokes listening to edith piaf, you shouldn't use it. The color makes it worse. The lipsticks screams... I'm sorry, no, writing it here would be too offensive.
Don't ever use that lipstick.ever.
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 18, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
While brutal honesty is on the table-how about me, going my my profile pic? What more can I do? I'm two years into hormones right now, and surgery is NOT on the table-I'm an artist, and there is not going to be any money in my future once I graduate. And PLEASE, Don't tell me I do pass, because I know for a fact that I don't. Frankly, while insensitivity might be hurtful, this thread has a HUGE amount of sugar coating. I don't need afirmation folks, I need honesty and advice as to how I can fix it. Thanks!
Bb
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:19:43 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:19:43 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 18, 2014, 11:58:31 PM
I never did drugs except a little weed once in a while. No eating disorder. I got bitten by a tick and contracted Lymes disease. Was very sick for a few years. Lost 30 pounds of muscle mass I had spent years to build up to appear more male. I got neurological damage as well. I may have an intersex condition too. I will be undergoing tests soon to know for sure. I always have been mistaken for a girl... used to hate it, now I want to embrace it.
Yeah,I just noticed you looked sick but I didn't know for what reason so I guessed the common ones. That sounds horrible, I'm so sorry
. Are you in pain often? I hope they can give you something that will help...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Yup. I mean, I was only wearing partial makeup that day (I usually just can't find time to contour) and besides-I DO know how to contour, but under different lighting you know how fake it can look. As for the brows, they are pretty much as high as they can go. Not much more to do there. Sometimes I thin them out a bit more and then apply liner on the upper edges. Usually works wonders.
Also. The hair? I'd like you to do better with curls this tight. I would like to grow it out, but that would mean letting it just friz out into a bubble on the sides. Reading as male for a few years in the process. Hey, if there was an easier fix, I'd take it, but since I'm not prepaired to face the embarrassment of wearing wigs in front of everyone for four years or so when my hair finally begins to obey the laws of gravity, it stays. Who knows? I might fix it eventually. But I like to color, personally. What do you recommend I do about it? RIght now it's too short for androgynous (which I was rocking for a while) and too long for anything else. So...not sure how to proceed.
And honestly, I'm beginning to question your taste! Just curious-what do YOU take issue with about my lipstick? I've actually gotten a lot of compliments on it before., of course I never wear it outside of queer circles/ Hey, asking for honest input, but...well, I like the lipstick. The hair color too, albiet not this short.
Also. The hair? I'd like you to do better with curls this tight. I would like to grow it out, but that would mean letting it just friz out into a bubble on the sides. Reading as male for a few years in the process. Hey, if there was an easier fix, I'd take it, but since I'm not prepaired to face the embarrassment of wearing wigs in front of everyone for four years or so when my hair finally begins to obey the laws of gravity, it stays. Who knows? I might fix it eventually. But I like to color, personally. What do you recommend I do about it? RIght now it's too short for androgynous (which I was rocking for a while) and too long for anything else. So...not sure how to proceed.
And honestly, I'm beginning to question your taste! Just curious-what do YOU take issue with about my lipstick? I've actually gotten a lot of compliments on it before., of course I never wear it outside of queer circles/ Hey, asking for honest input, but...well, I like the lipstick. The hair color too, albiet not this short.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:35:13 AM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Yup. I mean, I was only wearing partial makeup that day (I usually just can't find time to contour) and besides-I DO know how to contour, but under different lighting you know how fake it can look. As for the brows, they are pretty much as high as they can go. Not much more to do there. Sometimes I thin them out a bit more and then apply liner on the upper edges. Usually works wonders.
Also. The hair? I'd like you to do better with curls this tight. I would like to grow it out, but that would mean letting it just friz out into a bubble on the sides. Reading as male for a few years in the process. Hey, if there was an easier fix, I'd take it, but since I'm not prepaired to face the embarrassment of wearing wigs in front of everyone for four years or so when my hair finally begins to obey the laws of gravity, it stays. Who knows? I might fix it eventually. But I like to color, personally. What do YOU recommend I do?
And honestly, I'm beginning to question your taste! Just curious-what do YOU take issue with about my lipstick? I've actually gotten a lot of compliments on it before. Hey, asking for honest input, but...well, I like the lipstick. The hair color too, albiet not this short.
I don't question the taste of anyone not finding that lipstick hideous,, I outright declare their taste invalid :D sorry, not sorry. If you want to look like a really bad drag queen, go ahead, use it. How many of the people who complimented it were heterosexual? You know there's a reason I ask... I edited my original post about your eyes. They're actually not that bad with the right makeup,I think.
The hair color is fine. I just said it makes that hairstyle look worse.
I have a blower with a flat nozzle and astraightening iron. I only have light waves but when I want to style my hair, I often use both. I can use 30-45 min on my hair alone. I try to do it in 15 though... I know people with hair like yours who spend HOURS every day straightening it.
What would I do? I woulddo what I always do: take the most painful, least convenient route possible, because that's usually the route to where I actually want to be, not where I settle to be.
it's day 2, 39 hours after my surgery. I'm wearing full makeup and got told by a Thainurse i looked beautiful. When I asked her in Thai if she was just saying that, she said no, she really meant it. And I believe her.
What do you think I would do?
Oh, just a side note: I woke up to shave at 5 and do my makeup before they removed my drains. It was really hard to move with the drains. now it's a lot easier to move :)
Oh,I had fever too. I still managed all that. You think I'm harsh to you but not to myself? Guess again :D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 19, 2014, 12:40:15 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 19, 2014, 12:40:15 AM
Quote from: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:19:43 AM
Yeah,I just noticed you looked sick but I didn't know for what reason so I guessed the common ones. That sounds horrible, I'm so sorry
. Are you in pain often? I hope they can give you something that will help...
Yeah I get muscle cramps a bunch, also my bones itch and ache. But yeah its like inside my bones it itches.. can't scratch it. Like something is crawling around on my nerves. Technically there is, bacterium. I have to do antibiotics if it flares up too bad and I do take pain meds sometimes but I don't like being dependent on them so I rough thru it a lot. Doctors said the itch is actually acute pain in my bones / joints. Sometimes I twitch randomly....
I have been much better this past year or so and been eating better and taking care of myself. I am putting on weight but now it is more feminine like in my hips,butt and I even have little breasts developing. I was freaked out at first but now I am accepting it. I tried working out like I did in my 20s to regain a manly build. I just can't handle those type of bulking workouts anymore, too old and my energy is low. The female side of me is stronger and taking over, I have hid her for so long. I think that HRT, some E will probably do wonders for me. Maybe give me energy back, maybe give me more healthy weight.. not sure what it can do to help the face, hehe.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Yeah...I'm not heterosexual. So. There's that. Is there a problem?
My hair does NOT straighten, hahaha! I tried blow drying for about a year, I titled the result "lion's mane of death". I admire your friends who hae the hours a day needed to straighten their hair, but I'm wayyyy to busy for that. Now, not to be a bit critical...but makeup two days post op? Seems a bit...I don't know. I'd probably use that time to brush up on my chekov, but hey, to each her own. I'm starting to think that while I might not take this seriously enough, you take this TOO seriously.
My hair does NOT straighten, hahaha! I tried blow drying for about a year, I titled the result "lion's mane of death". I admire your friends who hae the hours a day needed to straighten their hair, but I'm wayyyy to busy for that. Now, not to be a bit critical...but makeup two days post op? Seems a bit...I don't know. I'd probably use that time to brush up on my chekov, but hey, to each her own. I'm starting to think that while I might not take this seriously enough, you take this TOO seriously.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Damara on October 19, 2014, 12:44:56 AM
Post by: Damara on October 19, 2014, 12:44:56 AM
Quote from: QuestioningEverything on October 14, 2014, 05:23:53 PM
What are your thoughts? I'm Pre-hrt :( blood work next month so hopefully not too much longer. No makeup other then some eyeliner. Still need more laser to get rid of that stupid chin hair that just wont die already! got a cheap wig on but I'm liking the length of it. Any advice or tips to look more feminine? I mess around with makeup on the weekends but I don't really know what I'm doing, my beard always shows through and I feel like I just look like crap, or I start getting pimples after wearing it for a day, it's just a mess. I kind of don't want to bother with it till after I start hrt.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi36.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe9%2FQuestioning%2FIMG_20141014_175150_zpsb60d4579.jpg&hash=cb00e8184d3401e5c5764becf5df37bb59f302f1) (http://s36.photobucket.com/user/Questioning/media/IMG_20141014_175150_zpsb60d4579.jpg.html)
You're going to be stunning after HRT. :D And the electro of course. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:51:35 AM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Yup. I mean, I was only wearing partial makeup that day (I usually just can't find time to contour) and besides-I DO know how to contour, but under different lighting you know how fake it can look. As for the brows, they are pretty much as high as they can go. Not much more to do there. Sometimes I thin them out a bit more and then apply liner on the upper edges.
You shouldn't make them high. High isn't feminine, thin isn't feminine. It's all about the SHAPE..most girls here have eyebrows almost 1" thick. I'm not even kidding. It's all about the shape :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:54:15 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 12:54:15 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 19, 2014, 12:40:15 AM
Yeah I get muscle cramps a bunch, also my bones itch and ache. But yeah its like inside my bones it itches.. can't scratch it. Like something is crawling around on my nerves. Technically there is, bacterium. I have to do antibiotics if it flares up too bad and I do take pain meds sometimes but I don't like being dependent on them so I rough thru it a lot. Doctors said the itch is actually acute pain in my bones / joints. Sometimes I twitch randomly....
I have been much better this past year or so and been eating better and taking care of myself. I am putting on weight but now it is more feminine like in my hips,butt and I even have little breasts developing. I was freaked out at first but now I am accepting it. I tried working out like I did in my 20s to regain a manly build. I just can't handle those type of bulking workouts anymore, too old and my energy is low. The female side of me is stronger and taking over, I have hid her for so long. I think that HRT, some E will probably do wonders for me. Maybe give me energy back, maybe give me more healthy weight.. not sure what it can do to help the face, hehe.
I'm so sorry.you're really strong for dealing with that!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 01:01:50 AM
Post by: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 01:01:50 AM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:43:53 AM
Yeah...I'm not heterosexual. So. There's that. Is there a problem?
My hair does NOT straighten, hahaha! I tried blow drying for about a year, I titled the result "lion's mane of death". I admire your friends who hae the hours a day needed to straighten their hair, but I'm wayyyy to busy for that. Now, not to be a bit critical...but makeup two days post op? Seems a bit...I don't know. I'd probably use that time to brush up on my chekov, but hey, to each her own. I'm starting to think that while I might not take this seriously enough, you take this TOO seriously.
While I look for a man and am extremely comfortable with very traditional gender roles, I'm not heterosexual either. So there's that. You asked for my opinion, you got it. There's nothing more to say. If you want to test my opinion, go wear that lipstick somewhere where there are no queers, gays or anything. It will be a quick reality check. It's not about the sexuality,really. It's tabout this "be as weird as you can and encourage others to do the same" that I have a huge problem with. It won't end well. That's why I often prefer time with straight people. They're less tolerant...but more tolerable :D
Like I said, I don't do things half way. Otherwise I'd only get. .half way there. :)
Anyway,I really needed to feel pretty. I looked so bad on day 1...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 01:05:41 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 01:05:41 AM
Can't deal with a bit of weird? Ohhhh, honey...I feel bad for you! Now I'm out of here before this turns into a flame war, because frankly your priorities scare me a bit. And if passing 100% means doing this to myself, I'm not ready to make that commitment. Enjoy your fancy new vagina!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 03:26:36 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 03:26:36 AM
Quote from: butterflies on October 19, 2014, 01:01:50 AMHmm, I'm not sure about your approach butterflies. I 110% support AndrogynousPainter, looks great to me, and I think the look is working great also. And you haven't seen anything if you think a bit of lipstick is taboo. I mean really? Maybe your some perfect cis female who really dislikes the concept of transgender. Am I getting warm? Please try to respect other people a little more, being liked is one thing, but being a pain in the ass is another. There's enough criticism outside of this forum, I'm not sure we need any more in here. Susans is a place we all show respect to each other, and accept each other for the gender diversity we all stand for. Just sayin...
It's tabout this "be as weird as you can and encourage others to do the same"
Ok, my rant is now over....
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 04:46:40 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 04:46:40 AM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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Wow Jamie, your looking great, really. Just a nice overall natural look, love it!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 19, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
Post by: Anna-Maria on October 19, 2014, 05:27:54 AM
Anyone read through all of her postings made by our dear friend butterflies?
No?
I did. I read all of them and she´s here for only one purpose. Troublemaking. While not showing off a slice of her own, she concentrates on people whom she assumes to be either "weak" or "unstable" or "desperate" call it as you will. And she likes to have her game with them.
In other words, I call her a Troll and she should be ignored.
One personal word for you butterflies: Picking on people who have to face hard times or still being in a tough struggle is so low, I can´t find any appropriate term for this. You should feel ashamed of your crippled character.
No?
I did. I read all of them and she´s here for only one purpose. Troublemaking. While not showing off a slice of her own, she concentrates on people whom she assumes to be either "weak" or "unstable" or "desperate" call it as you will. And she likes to have her game with them.
In other words, I call her a Troll and she should be ignored.
One personal word for you butterflies: Picking on people who have to face hard times or still being in a tough struggle is so low, I can´t find any appropriate term for this. You should feel ashamed of your crippled character.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on October 19, 2014, 05:37:28 AM
Post by: V M on October 19, 2014, 05:37:28 AM
Hi friends :police:
The situation has been handled
Let's relax a bit, get back on topic and avoid posting anything that could be construed as a personal attack
Thank you
V M
The situation has been handled
Let's relax a bit, get back on topic and avoid posting anything that could be construed as a personal attack
Thank you
V M
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 19, 2014, 08:03:32 AM
Post by: belfast girl on October 19, 2014, 08:03:32 AM
Quote from: belfast girl on October 17, 2014, 09:39:41 AM
Got new glasses, and I've been sort of practicing a bit with makeup.
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Still need to get hair/eyebrows done - I'm using cover-up over my facial hair then foundation over that and it seems to be working for now, I guess since I really don't have a lot anyway. I really like the glasses, but I'm not convinced they're doing much for me in terms of looking female, and I don't think I look remotely female anyway, so. I don't know, really. Not massively pleased, I don't think. Any thoughts? Suggestions?
Butterflies - brutal honesty is absolutely what I want. If people aren't going to be honest then what's the point in posting in a thread asking If you look female or could pass as female? Sugarcoating and compliments are all well and good, but they're entirely useless as a response to the thread question. Being honest, there are people who don't pass but absolutely could with the right makeup and maybe a bit of work, but if everyone is just nicey nicey to them they'll never realise this and they'll always wonder why people give them odd looks or misgender them in public when the nice people on the internet said they look ever so feminine and pretty. And I think that's much worse for someone in the long run. Much worse. Honesty, however brutal, is the only thing that can help you make positive changes and really help, in practically any endeavour. So, please - tell me exactly what you think.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on October 19, 2014, 08:15:10 AM
Post by: Brenda E on October 19, 2014, 08:15:10 AM
Quote from: butterflies on October 18, 2014, 11:02:21 PMI see some really heavy handed sugar coating here which I'd call dousing in maple syrup and caramel sauce until you can't see what's underneath. If I looked like some people here and got the comments they got and went out in false confidence only to face looks and whispers and giggles and talk, I'd consider those people not only not my friends but some of the cruelest people around. I'd consider their syrupy words an act of despising and hatred.
Sure, this thread does have a habit of sugar-coating, but I think that's the whole point. It's a safe place (usually) for those just starting out or those lacking confidence to gain some exposure and experience, and where people can gain some gentle and constructive feedback in bite-size, positive chunks. It's lighthearted too, and a place where photos are shared in a friendly, casual manner between friends.
It's not - and it's never really been? - a place where people expect brutal, real-life analysis of every aspect of their appearance. If people wanted that, all they need to is step outside their front door; such advice is regularly offered on an unsolicited basis by the less-polite members of society. That said, brutal honesty is available here, but not by default; it tends to be requested explicitly, and never given without permission.
Regardless, one thing is absolutely certain: I've never read any advice, honest or sugar-coated, in this thread which originate from hatred. I hope it stays that way.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on October 19, 2014, 08:27:34 AM
Post by: Brenda E on October 19, 2014, 08:27:34 AM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 18, 2014, 10:57:58 PM
While brutal honesty is on the table-how about me, going my my profile pic?
I think you're absolutely stunning.
That's brutally honest.
The diversity of what people find attractive is amazing; what I consider beautiful is probably not what the next person considers beautiful, or the next one. Some of us (like me) find quirky and confident styling very pretty, and others prefer more traditional (and elusive?) standards of beauty.
And trying not to turn this into an episode of Barney and Friends, it really is what's on the inside that makes someone cute to me. One's attitude and approach to life is far more important than how one looks. From your posts here, your attitude and approach to life is spot on.
Don't dump the lipstick, by the way. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
Post by: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
There seems to be a little discussion today around whether brutal honesty is what should be given in this thread. Well the problem is, everyone is different, which means we all have a different level at which we may be offended. We see this in society, and so some general guidelines or social norms are followed in the real world. What I say to my friends, which is often very very honest, and sometimes brutal, I would certainly not say to a colleague at work.
So what offends one person, may not offend another. On an extreme level, this can in fact be quite detrimental to ones mental health. Many of us Come here expecting or hoping to be understood, even accepted. Many of us are not accepted in the real world. And so to come that may be the only safe place you have, and to be told something, that while inc brutally honest, is really not going to help the overall end game of what your trying to achieve, quite possibly self acceptance.
Honesty should be given, but I don't think by default it should be brutal. I was always taught if I didn't have something nice to say about someone, then best to not say anything at all.
Just my thoughts on the topic, sorry didn't mean to derail the thread so please continue peoples :icon_paper:
So what offends one person, may not offend another. On an extreme level, this can in fact be quite detrimental to ones mental health. Many of us Come here expecting or hoping to be understood, even accepted. Many of us are not accepted in the real world. And so to come that may be the only safe place you have, and to be told something, that while inc brutally honest, is really not going to help the overall end game of what your trying to achieve, quite possibly self acceptance.
Honesty should be given, but I don't think by default it should be brutal. I was always taught if I didn't have something nice to say about someone, then best to not say anything at all.
Just my thoughts on the topic, sorry didn't mean to derail the thread so please continue peoples :icon_paper:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 19, 2014, 09:24:14 AM
Post by: Shantel on October 19, 2014, 09:24:14 AM
Quote from: BreezyB on October 19, 2014, 09:21:11 AM
Honesty should be given, but I don't think by default it should be brutal. I was always taught if I didn't have something nice to say about someone, then best to not say anything at all.
+1 Amen to that statement!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: ZoeWillCode on October 20, 2014, 07:58:59 AM
Post by: ZoeWillCode on October 20, 2014, 07:58:59 AM
Thanks, everyone, for all of the comments! I kinda got sucked into RL for the weekend, but I just got caught up and I really appreciate the feedback. I absolutely appreciate the honesty, and especially the specific comments. It's good to know that I'm on the right track. I'm looking forward to starting HRT in a month or so, so I'll be checking back in later to see how you all think things are progressing! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 20, 2014, 11:22:50 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 20, 2014, 11:22:50 AM
Sorry, but homophobia was not solicited. Queers are intolerable? The opinions of hetrosexuals are more valid? I am sorry, but this person has some MAJOR internalized issues to deal with.
AND Belfast girl: If you don't mind, I can give an honest critique albiet not in a brutal way. The biggest tell for me are your eyebrows-you really do need to shape them. Look up eyebrow shaping online; go for a higher arch. It would go a long way because besides those you actually have a pretty good facial structure! As for your hairline (good shape, a bit high), I'd consider contouring makeup (again, online tutorials are AMAZING there) and also perhaps some lip liner; thin lips aren't a huge tell in my opinion, but everything helps. That's why I use the dark lipsticks (usually not blue, not to worry!) actually-it makes my lips fuller, and helps me draws attention away from the chin. Eyes are pretty good-just try to avoid that downward slope on the outside of the eye. I've found that when I feel like putting in the effort, a cat eye really helps. The only other big thing I'd look into is the chest-you usually need to be fairly busty to look good in a tunic top as is, and sadly what hormones usually give us won't be enough for that. Bust padding helps. A LOT. If you'd like to start dressing in something a bit more flattering without doing too much shaping-look for v-necks, plunging necklines, things of that sort. Skirts, dresses with a bit of fullness to create a curve also helps. And, of course-posture! Good posture makes everyone a bit more gorgeous.
Hope that's helpful, in a kinder way. Hope I don't seem without authority on account of my profile pic-but honestly I know most of the tricks, it's just not practical to spend an hour doing makeup and hair every day. I was mostly hoping for some hair tips here...anyhow. There are more important things out there than being pretty, just keep that in mind. Hope this helps!
AND Belfast girl: If you don't mind, I can give an honest critique albiet not in a brutal way. The biggest tell for me are your eyebrows-you really do need to shape them. Look up eyebrow shaping online; go for a higher arch. It would go a long way because besides those you actually have a pretty good facial structure! As for your hairline (good shape, a bit high), I'd consider contouring makeup (again, online tutorials are AMAZING there) and also perhaps some lip liner; thin lips aren't a huge tell in my opinion, but everything helps. That's why I use the dark lipsticks (usually not blue, not to worry!) actually-it makes my lips fuller, and helps me draws attention away from the chin. Eyes are pretty good-just try to avoid that downward slope on the outside of the eye. I've found that when I feel like putting in the effort, a cat eye really helps. The only other big thing I'd look into is the chest-you usually need to be fairly busty to look good in a tunic top as is, and sadly what hormones usually give us won't be enough for that. Bust padding helps. A LOT. If you'd like to start dressing in something a bit more flattering without doing too much shaping-look for v-necks, plunging necklines, things of that sort. Skirts, dresses with a bit of fullness to create a curve also helps. And, of course-posture! Good posture makes everyone a bit more gorgeous.
Hope that's helpful, in a kinder way. Hope I don't seem without authority on account of my profile pic-but honestly I know most of the tricks, it's just not practical to spend an hour doing makeup and hair every day. I was mostly hoping for some hair tips here...anyhow. There are more important things out there than being pretty, just keep that in mind. Hope this helps!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: belfast girl on October 20, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
Post by: belfast girl on October 20, 2014, 01:14:35 PM
Thank you! That's very helpful, seriously. Those photos were like the first or second (maybe third? I don't really remember) time ever trying anything with makeup, so I'm well aware that my makeup game needs plenty of work. Stuff like contouring is definitely something I'll look into - also eyeliner. I haven't quite got the hang of the steady hand yet, I guess, for anything more complicated that what I did there, but practice! That'll help, and I'll try cat eyes (presumably not by basing them on my cat's eyes, mind). On eyebrows - once I'm ready to go full time I'm going to do them (or get my sister to do them, she's got herself qualified as some variety of makeup artist recently, and I imagine she would very much enjoy inflicting pain on me with tweezers). It's just when I'm still going around as a guy most of the time I guess it would be pretty hard to hide shaped eyebrows. But someday, hopefully not to far away, and I'll bear in mind the high arch suggestion. I'm not particularly good with lips, and again the steadiness of the hand with lipliner is an issue, and even then lipstick seems to go very much everywhere, so. I've read that using a small brush to apply lipstick can help with that? But again, practice! There'll be plenty of that. I want to absolutely nail a good look that I can stick with and work with even just as somewhere to eventually progress from, if at all possible. I tend to buy / wear dresses and skirts that are at least a bit flippy or flared to help with shape. My measurements are okay - 34-26-34 - but my hips tend to look way too small in relation to my shoulders, so. Advice definitely noted re: what sort of tops would be more flattering. Get paid at the weekend so maybe a bit of shopping. Posture is an issue for me - I tend to slouch quite a lot compared to most people, mostly from spending many years trying to get around without people bothering me. I've been looking into good ways to help with that.
Also I am going to get my hair cut properly at some point - probably going to look to go with a fringe to help cover up a bit of brow bossing, and then have the rest just down and framing my face and I'll just straighten in. I've got that down to a relatively fine art, at least.
Anyway, thank you again! Very helpful.
Also I am going to get my hair cut properly at some point - probably going to look to go with a fringe to help cover up a bit of brow bossing, and then have the rest just down and framing my face and I'll just straighten in. I've got that down to a relatively fine art, at least.
Anyway, thank you again! Very helpful.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Azahara on October 20, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
Post by: Azahara on October 20, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
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putting the filter aside, what do you guys think? :)
putting the filter aside, what do you guys think? :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on October 20, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
Post by: Gabrielle_22 on October 20, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
Quote from: androgynouspainter26 on October 19, 2014, 12:24:18 AM
Yup. I mean, I was only wearing partial makeup that day (I usually just can't find time to contour) and besides-I DO know how to contour, but under different lighting you know how fake it can look. As for the brows, they are pretty much as high as they can go. Not much more to do there. Sometimes I thin them out a bit more and then apply liner on the upper edges. Usually works wonders.
Also. The hair? I'd like you to do better with curls this tight. I would like to grow it out, but that would mean letting it just friz out into a bubble on the sides. Reading as male for a few years in the process. Hey, if there was an easier fix, I'd take it, but since I'm not prepaired to face the embarrassment of wearing wigs in front of everyone for four years or so when my hair finally begins to obey the laws of gravity, it stays. Who knows? I might fix it eventually. But I like to color, personally. What do you recommend I do about it? RIght now it's too short for androgynous (which I was rocking for a while) and too long for anything else. So...not sure how to proceed.
And honestly, I'm beginning to question your taste! Just curious-what do YOU take issue with about my lipstick? I've actually gotten a lot of compliments on it before., of course I never wear it outside of queer circles/ Hey, asking for honest input, but...well, I like the lipstick. The hair color too, albiet not this short.
I'll be honest--I don't see what the problem with the lipstick is! Sure, blue is unusual, but blue--for the few who wear it well--can be one of those shades that looks strange in a lovely way when done right. It's not an everyday shade, but so what? Kat Von D recently released a lipstick called Poe in her Studded Kiss line, which is a lovely deep blue; for those who can pull it off, it can be gorgeous. And while my first reaction was a moment of surprise at seeing that shade on you, I like how it looks. And as a fellow artist (writer, in my case), honestly, do you, and tell people so closed-minded as to say anyone who disagrees with their opinion is invalid to eff off. Black lipstick isn't for everyone, either, yet some people can pull it off beautifully. Hell, red lipstick doesn't work on everyone. What matters in the end is what works for you. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but don't let opinions dictate what you do unless you agree with them.
I also don't find you look unusually masculine, androgynouspainter, going by that photo. You look more andro-female than anything, with a leaning towards female. And that isn't sugarcoating. Sure, you have an androgynous features, as your name itself indicates, but you look like you lean more towards female to me.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hikari on October 21, 2014, 12:23:14 AM
Post by: Hikari on October 21, 2014, 12:23:14 AM
Quote from: Gabrielle_22 on October 20, 2014, 05:04:50 PM
I also don't find you look unusually masculine, androgynouspainter, going by that photo. You look more andro-female than anything, with a leaning towards female. And that isn't sugarcoating. Sure, you have an androgynous features, as your name itself indicates, but you look like you lean more towards female to me.
This is exactly my opinion too. And for the record, I love the extreme colors.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Wynternight on October 21, 2014, 12:53:05 AM
Post by: Wynternight on October 21, 2014, 12:53:05 AM
Quote from: Azahara on October 20, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
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putting the filter aside, what do you guys think? :)
I think you have wonderful features. Model-quality. Beautiful!
I'm jelly.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mickie on October 21, 2014, 01:31:54 AM
Post by: Mickie on October 21, 2014, 01:31:54 AM
^i second the above
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Assoluta on October 21, 2014, 06:45:02 AM
Post by: Assoluta on October 21, 2014, 06:45:02 AM
Quote from: Azahara on October 20, 2014, 04:28:30 PM
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putting the filter aside, what do you guys think? :)
I'll give my honest opinion:
You have quite elegant features, some feminine, some masculine, if I were assuming you were a cis girl on the street, I'd say your features were on the more masculine end - often like the cis models you see on billboards. (That doesn't mean to say you look manly, just more masculine than the average cis girl). I don't know how long you've been on hormones, but assuming you feminise more, you will become more indistinguishable. From that picture alone, you would probably pass quite a lot of the time, but some people might possibly be able to tell. Then again, it's just one picture.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on October 22, 2014, 04:22:00 AM
Post by: Sammy on October 22, 2014, 04:22:00 AM
Peeps, can I kindly ask all those who quoted my pics to modify their respective posts and delete those quotes? Thank You in advance, good luck and try to take things less serious and have fun here, everyone!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on October 22, 2014, 08:14:02 AM
Post by: speckyhailey on October 22, 2014, 08:14:02 AM
It gives me such relief and confidence at how beautiful everyone looks. I just hope I can have a transition as good as most of you girls :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Azahara on October 22, 2014, 05:18:21 PM
Post by: Azahara on October 22, 2014, 05:18:21 PM
Thanks so much for the compliments and the analysis/advice!! The latter was what I was hoping for.
I'm pre-HRT...but I have my initial consult for HRT this Tuesday!!! :angel:
Oh and yes I know..smiling...I almost always smile in pictures. I wanted to change things up this time. ;D
and now that you mention it I do see the shadow-stache LOL part of that could be that I kept tweaking the brightness and contrast and color filter of the picture....oops
again thank you!
I'm pre-HRT...but I have my initial consult for HRT this Tuesday!!! :angel:
Oh and yes I know..smiling...I almost always smile in pictures. I wanted to change things up this time. ;D
and now that you mention it I do see the shadow-stache LOL part of that could be that I kept tweaking the brightness and contrast and color filter of the picture....oops
again thank you!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 22, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 22, 2014, 08:35:54 PM
Quote from: Azahara on October 22, 2014, 05:18:21 PM
Thanks so much for the compliments and the analysis/advice!! The latter was what I was hoping for.
I'm pre-HRT...but I have my initial consult for HRT this Tuesday!!! :angel:
Oh and yes I know..smiling...I almost always smile in pictures. I wanted to change things up this time. ;D
and now that you mention it I do see the shadow-stache LOL part of that could be that I kept tweaking the brightness and contrast and color filter of the picture....oops
again thank you!
I actually really like the lack of the smile in this pic. to me it makes for a dramatic photograph with the lighting and the messy hair. but unfortunately I do see a shadow.
Since you are pre hrt you will have plenty of time to deal with that. And once you start taking hormones you will pass no problem. Also congrats on the initial consultation!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on October 23, 2014, 04:10:42 AM
Post by: speckyhailey on October 23, 2014, 04:10:42 AM
My 3am attempt at a selfie. Could I pass with some makeup and longer hair? :-*
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LordKAT on October 23, 2014, 04:15:46 AM
Post by: LordKAT on October 23, 2014, 04:15:46 AM
Hailey, I believe you could, although your mannerisms could make or break it for you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on October 24, 2014, 08:45:48 AM
Post by: barbie on October 24, 2014, 08:45:48 AM
Quote from: Hanazono on October 24, 2014, 07:47:14 AM
put on a wig and some makeup
then we'll know
And, trim the eyebrows.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on October 25, 2014, 10:10:23 AM
Post by: Handy on October 25, 2014, 10:10:23 AM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 23, 2014, 04:10:42 AM
My 3am attempt at a selfie. Could I pass with some makeup and longer hair? :-*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F2l9gnm8.jpg&hash=a542834bd167ca3b9e9c1274ae6f9d69d4e5da03)
I think your features are definitely soft enough; we need to see you with some more hair, and maybe after doing something about those eyebrows! :^)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hayley on October 25, 2014, 10:11:11 AM
Post by: Hayley on October 25, 2014, 10:11:11 AM
Hailey, what the others have said. "Passing" has a lot to do with effort. You have a wonderful base to start with. Some make-up a nice wig and shaped eyebrows as you'll be just fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on October 25, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Post by: Handy on October 25, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
Quote from: Jaime R D on October 18, 2014, 04:50:21 PM
Hey butterflies, I'm curious about mine.
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well beyond passing; I wouldn't question you for a second.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on October 25, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Post by: barbie on October 25, 2014, 01:07:34 PM
Quote from: Handy on October 25, 2014, 10:14:20 AM
well beyond passing; I wouldn't question you for a second.
I also think so.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: angie on October 26, 2014, 08:34:06 AM
Post by: angie on October 26, 2014, 08:34:06 AM
What do you think, couldn't get a picture to download but my avatar is of me on Friday at a mall in Sacramento
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on October 26, 2014, 09:08:05 AM
Post by: speckyhailey on October 26, 2014, 09:08:05 AM
Thanks for the replies girls, I'll try to get a wig and some make up and then post another photo sooner or later. Can't really do too much about the eyebrows while I'm still in boy mode though.
Hugs,
Hailey
Hugs,
Hailey
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Hayley on October 26, 2014, 09:20:10 AM
Post by: Hayley on October 26, 2014, 09:20:10 AM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 26, 2014, 09:08:05 AM
Thanks for the replies girls, I'll try to get a wig and some make up and then post another photo sooner or later. Can't really do too much about the eyebrows while I'm still in boy mode though.
Hugs,
Hailey
You can clean them up & shape them slightly. You don't have to go crazy with them. Men can have good eyebrows also. It won't ruin your boymode
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 26, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 26, 2014, 11:07:30 AM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 26, 2014, 09:08:05 AMI am still in boy mode for work and such and I shape my eyebrows no one has said anything about it either. you should be fine. Just make them a little thinner and do a little shaping. its probably better to just do a little bit anyways since you don't want to take off half of you eyebrows.
Thanks for the replies girls, I'll try to get a wig and some make up and then post another photo sooner or later. Can't really do too much about the eyebrows while I'm still in boy mode though.
Hugs,
Hailey
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on October 26, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
Post by: stephaniec on October 26, 2014, 04:45:23 PM
Quote from: lemons on October 26, 2014, 04:15:11 PMlooks normal to me
I feel like my head looks enormously disproportionate to the rest of my body. Additionally, my shoudlers read as a bit too wide, square, and male despite being slim. Any other things that might clock me feel free to critique. I don't know how I could get my head in proportion to my body, could FFS even do that? I feel like my head is too bulky looking...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzgEnorjl.jpg%3F1&hash=32776b7cf4e610749ba9a0dbb60d55f2bb4dc529)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Pikachu on October 26, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
Post by: Pikachu on October 26, 2014, 04:50:49 PM
Quote from: lemons on October 26, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I feel like my head looks enormously disproportionate to the rest of my body. Additionally, my shoudlers read as a bit too wide, square, and male despite being slim. Any other things that might clock me feel free to critique. I don't know how I could get my head in proportion to my body, could FFS even do that? I feel like my head is too bulky looking...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzgEnorjl.jpg%3F1&hash=32776b7cf4e610749ba9a0dbb60d55f2bb4dc529)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXqx5TDEl.jpg%3F1&hash=bb88382aca3817534a91d5b851f18df379e73464)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSufU1w2l.jpg%3F1&hash=141b84a5f81112c50c1cdd349a7fdef87cd707e6)
Oh my god, sis... You look completely cute and passable to me. Wow, I wish I looked like that...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on October 26, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on October 26, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
Quote from: lemons on October 26, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I feel like my head looks enormously disproportionate to the rest of my body. Additionally, my shoudlers read as a bit too wide, square, and male despite being slim. Any other things that might clock me feel free to critique. I don't know how I could get my head in proportion to my body, could FFS even do that? I feel like my head is too bulky looking...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzgEnorjl.jpg%3F1&hash=32776b7cf4e610749ba9a0dbb60d55f2bb4dc529)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXqx5TDEl.jpg%3F1&hash=bb88382aca3817534a91d5b851f18df379e73464)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FSufU1w2l.jpg%3F1&hash=141b84a5f81112c50c1cdd349a7fdef87cd707e6)
I have a big head too, and the good thing about that is that it makes our shoulder looks less wide ^_^ so yeah, and you look gorgeous <3
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Devlyn on October 26, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
Post by: Devlyn on October 26, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
Quote from: angie on October 26, 2014, 08:34:06 AM
What do you think, couldn't get a picture to download but my avatar is of me on Friday at a mall in Sacramento
Angie, you need to use an image hosting site like photobucket or imageshack to put pictures up. They're free and easy to use.
Hugs, Devlyn
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Asniceasme on October 27, 2014, 02:34:13 AM
Post by: Asniceasme on October 27, 2014, 02:34:13 AM
Quote from: lemons on October 26, 2014, 04:15:11 PM
I feel like my head looks enormously disproportionate to the rest of my body. Additionally, my shoudlers read as a bit too wide, square, and male despite being slim. Any other things that might clock me feel free to critique. I don't know how I could get my head in proportion to my body, could FFS even do that? I feel like my head is too bulky looking...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FzgEnorjl.jpg%3F1&hash=32776b7cf4e610749ba9a0dbb60d55f2bb4dc529)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FXqx5TDEl.jpg%3F1&hash=bb88382aca3817534a91d5b851f18df379e73464)
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I see no problem with your appearance at all.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: edin01 on October 27, 2014, 02:43:34 AM
Post by: edin01 on October 27, 2014, 02:43:34 AM
I think you look great.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
Post by: speckyhailey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
I added stuff to myself on an virtual makeover site as I don't have any makeup or a wig at the moment, do I pass here? Also, it wouldn't let me contour anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2yvnd5z.jpg&hash=f28b6a8c2548f9da23b2a6f672d9faabeb93e36b)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2yvnd5z.jpg&hash=f28b6a8c2548f9da23b2a6f672d9faabeb93e36b)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on October 27, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Post by: stephaniec on October 27, 2014, 12:34:17 PM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:17 AMyes
I added stuff to myself on an virtual makeover site as I don't have any makeup or a wig at the moment, do I pass here? Also, it wouldn't let me contour anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2yvnd5z.jpg&hash=f28b6a8c2548f9da23b2a6f672d9faabeb93e36b)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on October 27, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
Post by: tuuliu on October 27, 2014, 03:57:04 PM
Quote from: Emily29 on October 26, 2014, 04:59:12 PM
I have a big head too, and the good thing about that is that it makes our shoulder looks less wide ^_^ so yeah, and you look gorgeous <3
That's good advice for a big head like me, thanks! And I second the comment on gorgeous, nice choice of clothes too :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on October 27, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Post by: Handy on October 27, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Good evening ladies!!!! If you get a chance, check out my imgur album and please tell me if I'm making progress!!! I'm gaining confidence and going for more and more fabulous, trying to graduate to the fabulous thread!!!! Photos are all without makeup (though on second thought I may have been wearing lipstick in the dress pics... but I don't remember for certain and the yellow light makes it hard to tell...), and I know I need to do something about my eyebrows... :p
Contained in the album you'll find a photo of me at Richmond's pride festival representing my company, and also a photo I took of my outfit for a recent evening with my new beau! Please forgive the nasty mirror, I share a bathroom with 4 people! XD Also forgive my scowl; it may sound silly but the slightest smile makes me go from darling to derpy in the blink of an eye!
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#5
Contained in the album you'll find a photo of me at Richmond's pride festival representing my company, and also a photo I took of my outfit for a recent evening with my new beau! Please forgive the nasty mirror, I share a bathroom with 4 people! XD Also forgive my scowl; it may sound silly but the slightest smile makes me go from darling to derpy in the blink of an eye!
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#5
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 27, 2014, 06:05:45 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 27, 2014, 06:05:45 PM
Quote from: Handy on October 27, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Good evening ladies!!!! If you get a chance, check out my imgur album and please tell me if I'm making progress!!! I'm gaining confidence and going for more and more fabulous! Photos are all without makeup (though on second thought I may have been wearing lipstick in the dress pics... but I don't remember for certain and the yellow light makes it hard to tell...), and I know I need to do something about my eyebrows... :p
Contained in the album you'll find a photo of me at Richmond's pride festival representing my company, and also a photo I took of my outfit for a recent evening with my new beau! Please forgive the nasty mirror, I share a bathroom with 4 people! XD Also forgive my scowl; it may sound silly but the slightest smile makes me go from darling to derpy in the blink of an eye!
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#5
Well for no makeup you are pulling off fabulous just fine! I love your hair ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Trini on October 27, 2014, 11:17:47 PM
Post by: Trini on October 27, 2014, 11:17:47 PM
Quote from: Handy on October 27, 2014, 05:51:48 PM
Good evening ladies!!!! If you get a chance, check out my imgur album and please tell me if I'm making progress!!! I'm gaining confidence and going for more and more fabulous, trying to graduate to the fabulous thread!!!! Photos are all without makeup (though on second thought I may have been wearing lipstick in the dress pics... but I don't remember for certain and the yellow light makes it hard to tell...), and I know I need to do something about my eyebrows... :p
Contained in the album you'll find a photo of me at Richmond's pride festival representing my company, and also a photo I took of my outfit for a recent evening with my new beau! Please forgive the nasty mirror, I share a bathroom with 4 people! XD Also forgive my scowl; it may sound silly but the slightest smile makes me go from darling to derpy in the blink of an eye!
http://imgur.com/a/lBjxR#5
You're lookin' lovely there. ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 28, 2014, 01:09:54 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on October 28, 2014, 01:09:54 AM
Handy, I'd thin out/shape the eyebrows a bit; they make everyone's face look more masculine, but besides that I'd say you're doing very well!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 02:33:02 AM
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 02:33:02 AM
bah, i tried to rate my pics in pictriev and half of my photos are 99% female and half 97% male with age range from 21 to 45 years old.
Thank god i was posting my pics here before and got positive feedback or i will never live in FT till now :)
Thank god i was posting my pics here before and got positive feedback or i will never live in FT till now :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
Quote from: Nati on October 28, 2014, 02:33:02 AM
bah, i tried to rate my pics in pictriev and half of my photos are 99% female and half 97% male with age range from 21 to 45 years old.
Thank god i was posting my pics here before and got positive feedback or i will never live in FT till now :)
I never found pictriev to be very good. Keep saying I was 10 years old... that is FAR from accurate.
Try Rekog http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face. I think it is a little better.
Love Jade!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:02:33 AM
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:02:33 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 09:41:29 AM
I never found pictriev to be very good. Keep saying I was 10 years old... that is FAR from accurate.
Try Rekog http://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face. I think it is a little better.
Love Jade!
Thanks!
But can i find any explanation to all those numbers somewhere ? :)
Its like black magic for me now ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
Quote from: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:02:33 AM
Thanks!
But can i find any explanation to all those numbers somewhere ? :)
Its like black magic for me now ;)
it is just ranges, like 0 to 1.
0 is 100% female,
1 is 100% male.
so .50 would be 50%male 50% female.
gender is the last stat in the list, all the others are for emotions, race, glasses, etc. If it blue boxes your face that is male, pink = female. purples are in-between.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:17:25 AM
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:17:25 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:15:13 AM
it is just ranges, like 0 to 1.
0 is 100% female,
1 is 100% male.
so .50 would be 50%male 50% female.
gender is the last stat in the list, all the others are for emotions, race, glasses, etc. If it blue boxes your face that is male, pink = female. purples are in-between.
Thanks!
I'm 100% female on all pics with range of 90-99% in beauty, yay :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Quote from: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:17:25 AM
Thanks!
I'm 100% female on all pics with range of 90-99% in beauty, yay :)
Sweet! ;)
don't totally trust the computers always tho... remember Skynet? lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
Post by: Nati on October 28, 2014, 10:27:30 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on October 28, 2014, 10:20:00 AM
Sweet! ;)
don't totally trust the computers always tho... remember Skynet? lol
Yup, i know ;)
But still is nice :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on October 29, 2014, 05:11:10 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on October 29, 2014, 05:11:10 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on October 29, 2014, 04:40:56 PM
your thick brows do contribute with some overhang of the brow bone. you might be surprised at how much more feminine you can look with some brow shaping.
I use a battery powered mini electric razor about an inch across to trim instead of really shaving or plucking my brows. it's faster, I don't get nicks and pretty much painless
What is "overhang of the brow bone"? Is that another term for brow bossing?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on October 29, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
Post by: Ataraxia on October 29, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on October 29, 2014, 05:26:17 PM
I kind of think bossing is above the bone on the forehead area (frown marks a la Renee Richards )
and overhang as the protrusion of the brow bone relative to the eye socket
Oh, interesting. I've never heard of that as a factor in gender recognition. God this stuff is complicated ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Handy on October 29, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Post by: Handy on October 29, 2014, 05:51:58 PM
Quote from: riversong on October 29, 2014, 05:34:21 PM
Oh, interesting. I've never heard of that as a factor in gender recognition. God this stuff is complicated ???
I don't think that one is as much a gender thing as a general beauty thing lol; all the women in my family have extremely deep set eyes, so I guess getting a pair myself is simultaneously validating and distressing XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 29, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 29, 2014, 06:16:12 PM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
I added stuff to myself on an virtual makeover site as I don't have any makeup or a wig at the moment, do I pass here? Also, it wouldn't let me contour anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2yvnd5z.jpg&hash=f28b6a8c2548f9da23b2a6f672d9faabeb93e36b)
Pretty, and your eyes are beautiful! I like the photo, very nice!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 29, 2014, 06:20:05 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 29, 2014, 06:20:05 PM
Quote from: speckyhailey on October 27, 2014, 11:35:17 AM
I added stuff to myself on an virtual makeover site as I don't have any makeup or a wig at the moment, do I pass here? Also, it wouldn't let me contour anything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F2yvnd5z.jpg&hash=f28b6a8c2548f9da23b2a6f672d9faabeb93e36b)
if you look like this yes you would pass but it is really hard to get both your make up and hair that good. It takes a lot of work
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on October 29, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
Post by: Natalia on October 29, 2014, 07:30:34 PM
How am I looking today? =)
(https://scontent-a-gru.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10557488_1563311787221613_6846909870611562763_o.jpg)
(https://scontent-a-gru.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xaf1/t31.0-8/10557488_1563311787221613_6846909870611562763_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill F on October 29, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
Post by: Jill F on October 29, 2014, 08:00:28 PM
Natalia, you look like my friend Becky from college. Well played, madame!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RachaelAnne on October 29, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Post by: RachaelAnne on October 29, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Natalia I love your makeup. I do think you'll pass fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 03:15:41 AM
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 03:15:41 AM
Here's my picture for all of you to critique. How do I look? I'm pre-everything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F23rl4so.jpg&hash=ff20dbb39beff1743fae955095bbf15331475c54)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F23rl4so.jpg&hash=ff20dbb39beff1743fae955095bbf15331475c54)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on October 30, 2014, 05:28:16 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on October 30, 2014, 05:28:16 AM
Quote from: Hanazono on October 29, 2014, 10:13:02 PM
Your hairline is unusually high though.
The funny thing is though, it's not making her read as male though, imo. She just looks like a girl with a high hairline.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Natalia on October 30, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Post by: Natalia on October 30, 2014, 10:56:33 AM
Quote from: RachaelAnne on October 29, 2014, 11:16:20 PM
Natalia I love your makeup. I do think you'll pass fine.
This eye make-up is becoming my trademark =) I don't care too much about blush or lipstick, but I love using eyeliner, mascara and shadow =) Still learing though!
Quote from: Hanazono on October 30, 2014, 10:25:10 AM
I have to agree with you.
unusual but not unpassable.
do pardon me,Natalia, I hope I didn't slight you with the earlier observation
No, not at all! I'm fine =)
I am planning to have a hair transplant next year, to lower my hairline and correct the corners that receded...but I'm not feeling that bad with my hairline today...even with a high hairline I feel I am being read as a female =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 01:40:50 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 01:40:50 PM
Quote from: Vale on October 30, 2014, 03:15:41 AM
Here's my picture for all of you to critique. How do I look? I'm pre-everything.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi62.tinypic.com%2F23rl4so.jpg&hash=ff20dbb39beff1743fae955095bbf15331475c54)
Cool is that your real hair? I like the color. The picture is a bit dark, hard to see your eyes and stuff. For pre-everything you're looking good, you will feminize nicely with HRT I am sure :) The computer rated you female. And very beautiful. :D And sad :( Took a while for it to calculate it tho due to darkness.
What is you plan with the adams apple? I only ask cuz mine is 3 times bigger than yours and I don't know what to do. Looks like I swallowed a rubix cube. Mine makes me sad every time I see it. :'( I try to take a photo with the phone in the way of my neck. I have been getting scarfs since cold weather is coming...
here is what Rekog rated you with
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(-5.21) ,yaw(6.24) ,pitch(12.67)
race :
white(0.98)
emotioin : sad:40%,happy:37%
age : 16.99 ( value : 16.99 )
smile : false ( value : 0.07 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0.12 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0.25 )
beard : false ( value : 0.01 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0.01 )
mouth_open_wide : 0% ( value : 0 )
beauty : 96.24 ( value : 0.96241 )
gender : female ( value : 0.01 )
you can try rating more photos at https://rekognition.com/index.php/demo/face
Love,
Jade
:)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on October 30, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Post by: stephaniec on October 30, 2014, 03:38:37 PM
Quote from: riversong on October 30, 2014, 05:28:16 AMditto
The funny thing is though, it's not making her read as male though, imo. She just looks like a girl with a high hairline.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
Nope, my real hair color is kind of a reddish color. About to the middle of my back. Though, it's all one length. I'd like to get the bangs cut because I think they flatter my face. (which is why I like that wig, plus the fact it's my favorite color.) I'm really not sure what I'll be doing in the future about the adams apple. I've heard you can use contouring makeup, but I'm not so sure. I was actually trying to smile in that picture XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Pikachu on October 30, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
Post by: Pikachu on October 30, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
Vale, you're adorable. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on October 30, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
Post by: speckyhailey on October 30, 2014, 04:32:43 PM
I did a rekog for the picture I posted earlier:
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(0.99) ,yaw(-3.92) ,pitch(3.92)
race :
white(0.77)
emotioin : happy:85%,surprised:2%
age : 31.59 ( value : 31.59 )
smile : true ( value : 0.73 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 98% ( value : 0.98 )
beauty : 98.96 ( value : 0.98967 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
:-*
confidence : true ( value : 1 )
pose : roll(0.99) ,yaw(-3.92) ,pitch(3.92)
race :
white(0.77)
emotioin : happy:85%,surprised:2%
age : 31.59 ( value : 31.59 )
smile : true ( value : 0.73 )
glasses : no glass ( value : 0 )
sunglasses : false ( value : 0 )
beard : false ( value : 0 )
mustache : false ( value : 0 )
eye_closed : open ( value : 0 )
mouth_open_wide : 98% ( value : 0.98 )
beauty : 98.96 ( value : 0.98967 )
gender : female ( value : 0 )
:-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 04:37:52 PM
Quote from: Vale on October 30, 2014, 04:26:46 PM
I've heard you can use contouring makeup, but I'm not so sure.
If you learn anything helpful please drop me a tip ;)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on October 30, 2014, 04:38:16 PM
Quote from: Pikachu on October 30, 2014, 04:30:32 PM
Vale, you're adorable. :)
Agreed!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
You're all sweet. Thank you :)
If I find anything I'll let you know. The only other thing I can think of is wearing a scarf or something with a big collar, but I'm kind of going for that sort of tomboyish sort of look and I'm not one for wearing scarves...especially because I live in AZ and it never gets cold enough. XD
If I find anything I'll let you know. The only other thing I can think of is wearing a scarf or something with a big collar, but I'm kind of going for that sort of tomboyish sort of look and I'm not one for wearing scarves...especially because I live in AZ and it never gets cold enough. XD
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on October 30, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
Post by: barbie on October 30, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
Quote from: Vale on October 30, 2014, 05:02:17 PM
You're all sweet. Thank you :)
If I find anything I'll let you know. The only other thing I can think of is wearing a scarf or something with a big collar, but I'm kind of going for that sort of tomboyish sort of look and I'm not one for wearing scarves...especially because I live in AZ and it never gets cold enough. XD
I notice that you have very feminine fingers, which I do not have.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 30, 2014, 05:35:02 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 30, 2014, 05:35:02 PM
Quote from: barbie on October 30, 2014, 05:05:36 PM
I notice that you have very feminine fingers, which I do not have.
barbie~~
Good observation, I picked up on that too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Post by: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Click the pictures to make them bigger...
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10609676_716687768403046_3444853489993507455_n.jpg?oh=5155df8cb37d13d262ae7086d90c731d&oe=54DE3820&__gda__=1420873468_9f1b48145f347ee381b7c1cbd8eb8499)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10348181_729143633824126_5775791802423497067_n.jpg?oh=ad6f37b4e8fd15752a7d452010015c5b&oe=54EA2FD3&__gda__=1424574827_c58bd099e0de6be4c2e6c79ea9d88143)
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10646974_729143380490818_6021702525675988633_n.jpg?oh=fa304e4eddc9f6df320d385d3833eeb0&oe=54EA0445)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1526629_723418187730004_5671604310831007910_n.jpg?oh=eabcddb8f4b957bffe83d7c4a242a365&oe=54DF7429)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10730836_738642269540929_5889066990589953046_n.jpg?oh=bdfd726af0631588ab70d80e53792d09&oe=54AAFC04)
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10609676_716687768403046_3444853489993507455_n.jpg?oh=5155df8cb37d13d262ae7086d90c731d&oe=54DE3820&__gda__=1420873468_9f1b48145f347ee381b7c1cbd8eb8499)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10348181_729143633824126_5775791802423497067_n.jpg?oh=ad6f37b4e8fd15752a7d452010015c5b&oe=54EA2FD3&__gda__=1424574827_c58bd099e0de6be4c2e6c79ea9d88143)
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10646974_729143380490818_6021702525675988633_n.jpg?oh=fa304e4eddc9f6df320d385d3833eeb0&oe=54EA0445)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1526629_723418187730004_5671604310831007910_n.jpg?oh=eabcddb8f4b957bffe83d7c4a242a365&oe=54DF7429)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10730836_738642269540929_5889066990589953046_n.jpg?oh=bdfd726af0631588ab70d80e53792d09&oe=54AAFC04)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
Post by: Vale on October 30, 2014, 09:46:26 PM
You're pretty much the opposite of ugly. I bet you would pass, no problem. I think that program uses a base picture, and gives you a "beauty" percentage based on how close you look to their picture, so it's a pretty subjective number.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on October 31, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on October 31, 2014, 05:55:13 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Click the pictures to make them bigger...
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-b-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10609676_716687768403046_3444853489993507455_n.jpg?oh=5155df8cb37d13d262ae7086d90c731d&oe=54DE3820&__gda__=1420873468_9f1b48145f347ee381b7c1cbd8eb8499)
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-a-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10348181_729143633824126_5775791802423497067_n.jpg?oh=ad6f37b4e8fd15752a7d452010015c5b&oe=54EA2FD3&__gda__=1424574827_c58bd099e0de6be4c2e6c79ea9d88143)
(https://scontent-a-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xpa1/v/t1.0-9/10646974_729143380490818_6021702525675988633_n.jpg?oh=fa304e4eddc9f6df320d385d3833eeb0&oe=54EA0445)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/1526629_723418187730004_5671604310831007910_n.jpg?oh=eabcddb8f4b957bffe83d7c4a242a365&oe=54DF7429)
(https://scontent-b-lhr.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10730836_738642269540929_5889066990589953046_n.jpg?oh=bdfd726af0631588ab70d80e53792d09&oe=54AAFC04)
Im so jealous you pass so well and you haven't even started hormones.Good for you! and that computer program is stupid imo. You are very pretty!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on October 31, 2014, 08:12:44 AM
Post by: Brenda E on October 31, 2014, 08:12:44 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PMThat Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
I can't stand those computer face analysis things either. Use them for entertainment purposes at best because they're about as accurate as reading tea leaves when it comes to transgender people.
You look female and you look cute. Pre-everything? You're going to stun people when you've been on HRT for a while. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on October 31, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
Post by: barbie on October 31, 2014, 11:53:55 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Click the pictures to make them bigger...
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
I guess you can pass even without HRT.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on October 31, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
Post by: Shantel on October 31, 2014, 12:01:32 PM
Quote from: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
Not hardly, better jettison that site link, they don't know what they're talking about! Some people are just endowed with good looks and you my dear are endowed with rather spectacular feminine beauty.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 01, 2014, 04:12:34 AM
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 01, 2014, 04:12:34 AM
Hi everyone, I'm currently pre hrt, I've been working on beard removal since April. I've been growing my hair out but it's not long enough to go without my wig (hate wearing the wig, can't wait until my hair is that long). No makeup was harmed in the making of this picture, I'm fact I don't own any yet.
Anyway, do you think I pass...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs40.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2Frachaelanneb%2Fmedia%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg.html%255D%255BIMG%255Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe220%2Frachaelanneb%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg&hash=252dcbb63a2b32e7e2bafbd87e52e940146965dd)[/URL]
Anyway, do you think I pass...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2F%5Burl%3Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fs40.photobucket.com%2Fuser%2Frachaelanneb%2Fmedia%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg.html%255D%255BIMG%255Dhttp%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe220%2Frachaelanneb%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg&hash=252dcbb63a2b32e7e2bafbd87e52e940146965dd)[/URL]
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:26:31 AM
Quote from: Mermaid on October 30, 2014, 08:43:20 PM
Click the pictures to make them bigger...
I'm 24, MtF... Not on HRT yet, so I guess pre-everything... Not wearing any make-up on the pics, just my day to day boy look... Should I have hope? I haven't posted here in a while... That Rekognition site genders me female but... it also says I'm ugly...
I can only just repeat what everyone else has said, you're so beautiful and that site is obviously broken :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Well this is my first time posting in this thread... I've been too afraid until now. I'm a little fragile emotionally right now, so please be honest but don't be too mean if that's ok?
I have had a bit of FFS and am just over 2 weeks post op (my avatar is pre FFS), I still have a lot of swelling around my chin, jaw and nose, especially the tip. I also have some marks on my chin due to an electrolysis disaster about 2 months ago, I really hope it fades in time... I'm still pretty crushed by it, I have nice skin otherwise and the marks kind of look a little like beard shadow from a distance which I obviously find distressing.. I'm four months on HRT and I'm still growing my hair out.. I'm also missing some hair around the incision at my temples so it makes my hairline look worse than it is, I have no male pattern baldness going on though, although I might eventually get some hair transplants to smooth my hairline out a little if needed.
well here goes...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1218.jpg&hash=3ca67dd0099897f2c7fe7224bf78281e412d7405) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1218.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2Fpostffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg&hash=ba5ed7e1c6a8d7fce47d80003687ab4457cee78f) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/postffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1216.jpg&hash=22412db6e1ae834631c474e776859753b8f2f9e0) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1216.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1210.jpg&hash=5fbb4f0475b394a2b6136ade7d74919fba96e848) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1210.jpg.html)
I have had a bit of FFS and am just over 2 weeks post op (my avatar is pre FFS), I still have a lot of swelling around my chin, jaw and nose, especially the tip. I also have some marks on my chin due to an electrolysis disaster about 2 months ago, I really hope it fades in time... I'm still pretty crushed by it, I have nice skin otherwise and the marks kind of look a little like beard shadow from a distance which I obviously find distressing.. I'm four months on HRT and I'm still growing my hair out.. I'm also missing some hair around the incision at my temples so it makes my hairline look worse than it is, I have no male pattern baldness going on though, although I might eventually get some hair transplants to smooth my hairline out a little if needed.
well here goes...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1218.jpg&hash=3ca67dd0099897f2c7fe7224bf78281e412d7405) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1218.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2Fpostffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg&hash=ba5ed7e1c6a8d7fce47d80003687ab4457cee78f) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/postffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1216.jpg&hash=22412db6e1ae834631c474e776859753b8f2f9e0) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1216.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1210.jpg&hash=5fbb4f0475b394a2b6136ade7d74919fba96e848) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1210.jpg.html)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 02, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 02, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
Quote from: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Well this is my first time posting in this thread... I've been too afraid until now. I'm a little fragile emotionally right now, so please be honest but don't be too mean if that's ok?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1218.jpg&hash=3ca67dd0099897f2c7fe7224bf78281e412d7405) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1218.jpg.html)
You are a pretty woman already so your eventual outcome will be stunning, I'd bank on it!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on November 02, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
Post by: Brenda E on November 02, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
lemon_ice, wow. Those are some extremely feminizing changes. Money well spent (not that you needed the surgery etc. etc. etc.)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 02, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 02, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Quote from: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 08:40:14 AM
Well this is my first time posting in this thread... I've been too afraid until now. I'm a little fragile emotionally right now, so please be honest but don't be too mean if that's ok?
I have had a bit of FFS and am just over 2 weeks post op (my avatar is pre FFS), I still have a lot of swelling around my chin, jaw and nose, especially the tip. I also have some marks on my chin due to an electrolysis disaster about 2 months ago, I really hope it fades in time... I'm still pretty crushed by it, I have nice skin otherwise and the marks kind of look a little like beard shadow from a distance which I obviously find distressing.. I'm four months on HRT and I'm still growing my hair out.. I'm also missing some hair around the incision at my temples so it makes my hairline look worse than it is, I have no male pattern baldness going on though, although I might eventually get some hair transplants to smooth my hairline out a little if needed.
well here goes...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1218.jpg&hash=3ca67dd0099897f2c7fe7224bf78281e412d7405) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1218.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2Fpostffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg&hash=ba5ed7e1c6a8d7fce47d80003687ab4457cee78f) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/postffsprenosecastremoval1.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1216.jpg&hash=22412db6e1ae834631c474e776859753b8f2f9e0) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1216.jpg.html)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi29.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fc265%2Fxdrift%2FDSC_1210.jpg&hash=5fbb4f0475b394a2b6136ade7d74919fba96e848) (http://s29.photobucket.com/user/xdrift/media/DSC_1210.jpg.html)
Your ffs has turned out very very well I don't see any thing that screams male. you are very pretty! and just to let you know I am being 100% honest. you are a very attractive women :icon_love:
Are you trying to grow your hair out or are you gonna keep it short? because I think your hair would be absolutely stunning if you grew it out
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 11:12:32 AM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 02, 2014, 11:12:32 AM
Quote from: Shantel on November 02, 2014, 09:58:47 AM
You are a pretty woman already so your eventual outcome will be stunning, I'd bank on it!
Aww thanks you Shantel :) Well that really made my afternoon.. I'm still pretty confused I think, I still often see a guy, or think that I look weird when I look at my pictures.. I might just need some time to adjust... also I can't really smile yet, and I found that very feminising for me pre FFS, plus I just love smiling :) so I feel a bit self conscious about that. So thanks so much for your kind comments, I'm still in Buenos Aires and as I can't speak Spanish I think I'm getting a little lonely and depressed which kind of warps your self perception I think.. so some outside perspective is great to have :) Thankyou :)
Claire.
Quote from: Brenda E on November 02, 2014, 10:05:10 AM
lemon_ice, wow. Those are some extremely feminizing changes. Money well spent (not that you needed the surgery etc. etc. etc.)
And thank you too Brenda :) my comments above apply here too, so thank you. And yes that was very nice of you to say that I didn't need the surgery etc. :) and I was looking quite nice before from the front pre FFS, but my profile totally gave the game away. and no amount of HRT was ever going to change that :P so here I am, for better or for worse.. I just want to get on and blend in, especially to be able to go out at night (I have some young fun friends even though I am a bit of a nerdy homebody lol), I felt rather under threat when out at night before which sucked my enjoyment right out of it, hopefully I can just be a tall girl now :)
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 02, 2014, 10:25:00 AM
Your ffs has turned out very very well I don't see any thing that screams male. you are very pretty! and just to let you know I am being 100% honest. you are a very attractive women :icon_love:
Are you trying to grow your hair out or are you gonna keep it short? because I think your hair would be absolutely stunning if you grew it out
Hi Amber :) Thank you for your reassurance too, you do sound very genuine :) I definitely still have a way to go in my transition so that is lovely to hear.. so thank you again :)
I'm definitely growing my hair out too! :) I don't mind it at this length, but I would love it at least below my shoulders :) I've grown it once before and my natural highlights really come out when it's a bit longer. It should be a little easier to manage too once it's longer, I usually wake up in the morning with quite a corona of hair sticking out in all directions lol.. I wouldn't want to wake up in the morning beside my special someone looking the way I do right now :P So I won't be having any haircuts for a while yet.
Hope you're having a lovely day, Claire
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on November 03, 2014, 03:32:07 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on November 03, 2014, 03:32:07 AM
Ok, so on that Rekog site the beauty stats are determined by shades and smoothness of color tone. If using makeup and basically making yourself look like a plastic doll it will rate you higher in beauty. Kind of lame if you ask me. I also uses proportions so if the face is at different angles it does not see height/width proportions correctly. I have used the same algorithms in Apps I have designed and most of the stats are pretty close. The beauty stat is dumb cuz beauty is different to different people but this is a computer program, what does it know as far as beauty.
I have used a lot of other face analysis software since I needed to evaluate them for projects I was doing and the Rekog is probably one of the the best (It is used by the NSA, security firms and marketing groups), Picretrev is one of the the worst. But remember, use it for entertainment only, never trust the computer. Remember Skynet? HAL? Matrix... ;D
Love,
Jade
I have used a lot of other face analysis software since I needed to evaluate them for projects I was doing and the Rekog is probably one of the the best (It is used by the NSA, security firms and marketing groups), Picretrev is one of the the worst. But remember, use it for entertainment only, never trust the computer. Remember Skynet? HAL? Matrix... ;D
Love,
Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 11:47:36 AM
Quote from: Jade_404 on November 03, 2014, 03:32:07 AM
Ok, so on that Rekog site the beauty stats are determined by shades and smoothness of color tone. If using makeup and basically making yourself look like a plastic doll it will rate you higher in beauty. Kind of lame if you ask me. I also uses proportions so if the face is at different angles it does not see height/width proportions correctly. I have used the same algorithms in Apps I have designed and most of the stats are pretty close. The beauty stat is dumb cuz beauty is different to different people but this is a computer program, what does it know as far as beauty.
I have used a lot of other face analysis software since I needed to evaluate them for projects I was doing and the Rekog is probably one of the the best (It is used by the NSA, security firms and marketing groups), Picretrev is one of the the worst. But remember, use it for entertainment only, never trust the computer. Remember Skynet? HAL? Matrix... ;D
Love,
Jade
Thanks, that's rather interesting... I just tried the Rekognition site with all of my post FFS photos and a selection of my best pre FFS photos.. I remember trying the Picretrev site a couple of months ago and a couple of my good pre FFS pics were analysed as being female, which I was rather happy about at the time :) Well when trying Rekognition just now, absolutely none of my pre FFS were analysed as being female, however EVERY single one of my post FFS pics were gendered as female (with some pretty good beauty scores too if I'm allowed to brag :p), it also guessed my age really well with a range of 29-32, and I've just turned 31. So rather happy with that result :)
Also something I was surprised with, with two of my post FFS pics I had a nose cast on, Rekognition coped with no problem and I still got a pretty good beauty score despite the colour and tone variation in my face due to the cast. Rather impressed :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 03, 2014, 01:21:20 PM
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 03, 2014, 01:21:20 PM
I'm new to the forum and working to learn how to post images.
So here goes...
As I mentioned in my post a few days ago: I'm currently pre hrt, I've been working on beard removal since April, I've been growing my hair out but it's not long enough to go without my wig (hate wearing the wig, can't wait until my hair is that long). I've also lost ~60 lbs in the last 17 months. At this point, I don't use makeup, but am very interested to learn some simple techniques.
This was me on Friday when I went out shopping for a new coat after I left my therapy session.
Anyway, I'm interested in your feedback...
Love
Rachael :-*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe220%2Frachaelanneb%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg&hash=dd34a1e881579ece87cd7b67b3f4c30d5abdfa5d)
So here goes...
As I mentioned in my post a few days ago: I'm currently pre hrt, I've been working on beard removal since April, I've been growing my hair out but it's not long enough to go without my wig (hate wearing the wig, can't wait until my hair is that long). I've also lost ~60 lbs in the last 17 months. At this point, I don't use makeup, but am very interested to learn some simple techniques.
This was me on Friday when I went out shopping for a new coat after I left my therapy session.
Anyway, I'm interested in your feedback...
Love
Rachael :-*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe220%2Frachaelanneb%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg&hash=dd34a1e881579ece87cd7b67b3f4c30d5abdfa5d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: missymay on November 03, 2014, 01:43:15 PM
Post by: missymay on November 03, 2014, 01:43:15 PM
Quote from: RachaelAnne on November 03, 2014, 01:21:20 PM
I'm new to the forum and working to learn how to post images.
So here goes...
As I mentioned in my post a few days ago: I'm currently pre hrt, I've been working on beard removal since April, I've been growing my hair out but it's not long enough to go without my wig (hate wearing the wig, can't wait until my hair is that long). I've also lost ~60 lbs in the last 17 months. At this point, I don't use makeup, but am very interested to learn some simple techniques.
This was me on Friday when I went out shopping for a new coat after I left my therapy session.
Anyway, I'm interested in your feedback...
Love
Rachael :-*
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi40.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fe220%2Frachaelanneb%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F20141031_094435_zpsez2ddkbs.jpg&hash=dd34a1e881579ece87cd7b67b3f4c30d5abdfa5d)
It's awesome that you're getting out and about as your true self, and congratulations on your weight loss! Makeup application can be a little intimidating at first, but there are a lot great YouTube videos to help you get started, and you can also get a free makeover at a department store, and the makeup artist will be able to tell you what your face shape is, and determine your skin tone (warm, cool, or neutral) to help you pick the right colors.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 02:48:14 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 02:12:59 PM
you can bring out your lips more in proportion to your nose by wearing lip color.
lip gloss is an easy and un intimidating way to try that. it has larger room for application error too
Ohh! do me too! do me too! :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TheQuestion on November 03, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
Post by: TheQuestion on November 03, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
Lemon Ice, mind if I call you lice... I'm kidding. You look great!!! Where did you have you FFS, if you don't mind me asking? You've probably already mentioned it somewhere.
Mermaid, wtf? You look like you're 14, literally. Your pretty much my age and you look like you could be just entering High School. I haven't really aged much since high school, but it looks like you stopped aging in middle school.
And RachaelAnne, seems to me that you'll do fine.
Mermaid, wtf? You look like you're 14, literally. Your pretty much my age and you look like you could be just entering High School. I haven't really aged much since high school, but it looks like you stopped aging in middle school.
And RachaelAnne, seems to me that you'll do fine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 05:00:40 PM
Quote from: TheQuestion on November 03, 2014, 04:44:31 PM
Lemon Ice, mind if I call you lice... I'm kidding. You look great!!! Where did you have you FFS, if you don't mind me asking? You've probably already mentioned it somewhere.
Hmm, I would prefer Claire if that's ok lol. Aww Thank you! :) I had my FFS at T-Change with Javier Rossi and Amanda, I'm rather happy so far, especially with my forehead. And the photos without the nose cast, I took them two days ago at about 17 days post op. My chin, lower face and nose are still a bit swollen so there should be some improvement in those areas still :) I'm still only about half way through facial hair removal too, god I can't wait to be all done with that, I'm really hanging out for my next laser session!
Claire :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Idk if I'm going to regret this buttttttt.....
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 03, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 03, 2014, 05:26:22 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PMwhich butt were you going to regret? I don't see any butts.... lol
Idk if I'm going to regret this buttttttt.....
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ne ways on a more serious note, you definitely are very beautiful. You pass 100%. Honestly you are one of the most beautiful women I have seen on this sight and that is saying a lot because there are many gorgeous women here. So congrats!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: tuuliu on November 03, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
Post by: tuuliu on November 03, 2014, 05:28:22 PM
Claire, wow, just 4 months? I'm jealous. I don't think you need to do anything with your hairline. Waiting to see how the longer hair turns out!
Rachael you have a very good starting point for HRT ;) also looking forward to see how your real hair looks!
Get outta here Jasmine, there's the fabulous thread over there, pass pass pass! ;D
Rachael you have a very good starting point for HRT ;) also looking forward to see how your real hair looks!
Get outta here Jasmine, there's the fabulous thread over there, pass pass pass! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:07:56 PM
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:07:56 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 06:06:27 PM
don't tilt your chin down. you have a beautiful face and tilting it down makes it look elongated to the point of imbalance.
I think you have some bruising from FFS still not dissolved in your avatar pic? doing a thin foundation - concealer - foundation sandwich will help dispel notions that you been hit by a door.
Do me too, little Ms. Critique
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 06:35:01 PM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 06:35:01 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 06:06:27 PM
don't tilt your chin down. you have a beautiful face and tilting it down makes it look elongated to the point of imbalance.
I think you have some bruising from FFS still not dissolved in your avatar pic? doing a thin foundation - concealer - foundation sandwich will help dispel notions that you been hit by a door.
Thanks for the advice :) Yes that's a little post op bruising that's still fading, don't worry, I just tell everyone that I was beaten up by my pimp :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:37:29 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 06:15:16 PM
now everyone please don't think I'm out here judging people... I sincerely want to help :)
Jasmine... you are beautiful and young. I'm not sure how you sound but most probably you pass in voice and every aspect.
THe internet has a long, long memory.
if ever you intend to do stealth or deep stealth, images posted ages ago could come back to haunt you.
That's very trueeee. That's why I'm not sure if I'll regret posting on this thread $: I don't really care if people know but if they don't know it's not the first thing I bring up to them. I wouldn't consider myself stealth but when I go to parties I've been with guys who don't know. It's nice but I really don't know if I'd ever consider myself "stealth"
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
Post by: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
And Jasmine, you are just stunning. Honestly the trans thing would never occur to anyone from your appearance alone, they would just be too busy thinking 'wow, she's just so pretty!' :) And then proceed to either being jealous or trying to think of sweet pick up line :p
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
Post by: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 06:42:47 PM
Quote from: lemon_ice on November 03, 2014, 06:38:59 PM
And Jasmine, you are just stunning. Honestly the trans thing would never occur to anyone from your appearance alone, they would just be too busy thinking 'wow, she's just so pretty!' :) And then proceed to either being jealous or trying to think of sweet pick up line :p
Thanks :) You're sweet. Honestly, compliments are hard for to take from people & I don't really ever let them get to my head because I feel like people throw them around pretty easily. I know I do anyways, lol . You're very pretty too though! I saw your before picture & wow! I would have definitely tried talking to you if I met you as your former self & now you're a beautiful woman! It's crazy how transition works sometimes haha
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on November 03, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
Post by: stephaniec on November 03, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PMvery pretty
Idk if I'm going to regret this buttttttt.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff108%2Fjasmine_adrianne%2Fdarizzle_zps770313b1.jpg&hash=f7327ce7e9a246485883aa5cc7f526d51c7712e0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 03, 2014, 07:41:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 03, 2014, 07:41:29 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Idk if I'm going to regret this buttttttt.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff108%2Fjasmine_adrianne%2Fdarizzle_zps770313b1.jpg&hash=f7327ce7e9a246485883aa5cc7f526d51c7712e0)
Why would you regret it? You are lovely, just beautiful!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 03, 2014, 07:51:49 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 03, 2014, 07:51:49 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 07:45:46 PM
Jasmine and Claire broke my transdar... I'll have to go get it fixed again. or minimally recalibrated
:D :D :D :D :D
Im sorry I think that your transdar is just fine but some people are just undetectable. even by the most hi tech and reliable transdar. :P
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 03, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 03, 2014, 08:12:13 PM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 03, 2014, 08:02:17 PM
anyway this is me.
nothing very special.
I'm kind of average to below average. a plain Jane.
sorry for the blurry image. I'm paranoid in that way.
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You look nice enough to be any cis Asian girl Hana, nice shape too!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 09:43:43 PM
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 09:43:43 PM
Hana, Jas, and Claire... you take my breath away! sooo totally jealous!!
I'm not anywhere close to your level!!!
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paula
I'm not anywhere close to your level!!!
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paula
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 09:50:22 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 09:50:22 PM
Paula, I got to take a look at your photobook and, I think you are passing very well and making unbelievable progress.
What's up with me today? I got my 2nd laser session on Saturday and now I notice a lot of big obvious square shaped patches on the sides of my face! Unfortunately, I have a lot of dark hair so it really stands out lol. Hopefully things don't get too out of control as I'm not really out anywhere except for my wife. I could probably use some advice as how to maximize the effectiveness of laser. Is laser counterproductive while still having testosterone?
What's up with me today? I got my 2nd laser session on Saturday and now I notice a lot of big obvious square shaped patches on the sides of my face! Unfortunately, I have a lot of dark hair so it really stands out lol. Hopefully things don't get too out of control as I'm not really out anywhere except for my wife. I could probably use some advice as how to maximize the effectiveness of laser. Is laser counterproductive while still having testosterone?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
liar liar, pants on fire... :)
Thank you, so much, hon!! For so long, I never thot I would even be able to pass in a dark room.. But, now.. well, just came back from Walmart, to get my finesteride refill, and some lemons for tea, amd was gendered correctly, by the cashier.. I think she had some really big smudges on her glasses... must have... :)
Thank you, so much, hon!! For so long, I never thot I would even be able to pass in a dark room.. But, now.. well, just came back from Walmart, to get my finesteride refill, and some lemons for tea, amd was gendered correctly, by the cashier.. I think she had some really big smudges on her glasses... must have... :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 10:03:43 PM
Quote from: Paula Christine on November 03, 2014, 09:56:38 PM
liar liar, pants on fire... :)
Thank you, so much, hon!! For so long, I never thot I would even be able to pass in a dark room.. But, now.. well, just came back from Walmart, to get my finesteride refill, and some lemons for tea, amd was gendered correctly, by the cashier.. I think she had some really big smudges on her glasses... must have... :)
NO seriously Paula. You really surprised me here! Jealous here, it will be at least a year or two before I can be fulltime.
I think I won't be able to start HRT for another 8 months or so. Currently my timeline is like, do laser every month for 8 months, then start HRT and do 4 more laser sessions while on it. Does anybody think this is reasonable?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 10:07:47 PM
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 10:07:47 PM
D.. again, thanks for the compliment.. I know, in person, ,standing in front of you, no, I wouldn't.. across the room, yeah, ok.. I sent off several pix to Dr.. Spiegel, in Boston, to look and say.. "I would recommend this, and.. I would do that.. and you should do this.. "etc so, I'll see what he recommends for FFS ..
As for laser.. I've had only two, as well.. under my nose, is where its most noticeable, and hardest to shave.. are you using a razor, or elec shaver? I was using a shaver for the longest time, but last couple weeks, using disposable razors. Takes longer, and you have to be careful not to cut/nick.. but I love the feeling afterwards !!! Plus, being a closer shave, easier to hide the darker areas with coverup.. counter the blue color with orange lipstick, very thin, but orange counters blue..
As for being counterproductive, yeah, as T will continue to grow the hairs,you'll be fighting them doubly with the laser.. you'll have to drive your T down, and begin Estrogen, that will slow the hair growth, as well as make it begin to grow out thinner, finer, lighter on the rest of you.
As for laser.. I've had only two, as well.. under my nose, is where its most noticeable, and hardest to shave.. are you using a razor, or elec shaver? I was using a shaver for the longest time, but last couple weeks, using disposable razors. Takes longer, and you have to be careful not to cut/nick.. but I love the feeling afterwards !!! Plus, being a closer shave, easier to hide the darker areas with coverup.. counter the blue color with orange lipstick, very thin, but orange counters blue..
As for being counterproductive, yeah, as T will continue to grow the hairs,you'll be fighting them doubly with the laser.. you'll have to drive your T down, and begin Estrogen, that will slow the hair growth, as well as make it begin to grow out thinner, finer, lighter on the rest of you.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
Post by: Deinewelt on November 03, 2014, 10:17:13 PM
Yeah I can cover with makeup just fine! I have a few pics back somewhere in this thread, and yes I use shick extreme 3 disposable- highly recommended.
Like many here, I contemplate ways to drive down the T all the time, but there is not really any good safe way to do it without HRT, but that will be awhile as my therapist is very much a GK.
As far as cover up, I actually have some legitimately orange concealer!
Like many here, I contemplate ways to drive down the T all the time, but there is not really any good safe way to do it without HRT, but that will be awhile as my therapist is very much a GK.
As far as cover up, I actually have some legitimately orange concealer!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
Post by: AnneB on November 03, 2014, 10:28:36 PM
very good to hear, sorry you have to wait so long to begin to drive down the T.. I think, that, once you begin Spiro.. the laser wont so much, be a two steps forward, one step back, thing.. And good thing on the coverup.. I used, (if I dont get into trouble) herbals, T-inhibitors, for abt 7months, that laid the foundation for the script hormones to go to work even faster. Yes, they were effective.. very, really quelled my dysphoria and calmed me down, but the physical results were really welcome also! And since they were bio identicals, "supplements", i did not have to report them to anyone.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnneB on November 04, 2014, 12:09:43 AM
Post by: AnneB on November 04, 2014, 12:09:43 AM
Ooops, I should have said, this is my roommates closet! She took me in when I had ti find a place to live.. only came in to use the mirror! I -wish- this was my closet! :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: orangejuice on November 04, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Post by: orangejuice on November 04, 2014, 02:24:59 PM
Only looked through the last couple of pages of this but don't see anyone who's not passable or who wouldn't be if they are pre-HRT.
Mermaid, can't believe you are pre anything you look like a good looking female to me. I'm a year older than you so comparable to me I think you're pretty lucky and you'd look amazing!
I guess I'm more interested in seeing photos of people pre anything and not trying to look female at all to see if I would have any chance. Feels like I don't really but when I saw you're old guy pic lemon ice, it gives me a lot of hope, hope that doesn't offend you, I only say it because the way you look now is again like a good looking female!
I'm barely out to myself and only at the beginning of trying to understand what is going on for me-had my first therapy session yesterday-but I'm learning that if I can get rid of a lot of fear that I have I'll be able to make a clearer judgement about how I'm really feeling. So I really want to post some pics of me now to see what people would think about my chances, but not sure if that would be a good idea seeing as if anyone found out about me at this stage I'd be pretty mortified. Think I'm being paranoid?
Mermaid, can't believe you are pre anything you look like a good looking female to me. I'm a year older than you so comparable to me I think you're pretty lucky and you'd look amazing!
I guess I'm more interested in seeing photos of people pre anything and not trying to look female at all to see if I would have any chance. Feels like I don't really but when I saw you're old guy pic lemon ice, it gives me a lot of hope, hope that doesn't offend you, I only say it because the way you look now is again like a good looking female!
I'm barely out to myself and only at the beginning of trying to understand what is going on for me-had my first therapy session yesterday-but I'm learning that if I can get rid of a lot of fear that I have I'll be able to make a clearer judgement about how I'm really feeling. So I really want to post some pics of me now to see what people would think about my chances, but not sure if that would be a good idea seeing as if anyone found out about me at this stage I'd be pretty mortified. Think I'm being paranoid?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 04, 2014, 03:37:20 PM
Post by: RachaelAnne on November 04, 2014, 03:37:20 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 03, 2014, 05:17:28 PM
Idk if I'm going to regret this buttttttt.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Ff108%2Fjasmine_adrianne%2Fdarizzle_zps770313b1.jpg&hash=f7327ce7e9a246485883aa5cc7f526d51c7712e0)
OMG Jasmine you are truly a beautiful young woman! You should have no regrets what so ever!
I only hope that HRT and FFS will help me get to look 1/10 as beautiful.
Love Rachael
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on November 04, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on November 04, 2014, 04:28:14 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTrnm3RAyk8&list=UU03QngdJjdzkJpp8O6LwdIA (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTrnm3RAyk8&list=UU03QngdJjdzkJpp8O6LwdIA)
And here is a picture of me... I'm 2 months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2n65fll.jpg&hash=b3c89a48cbedf969c6305b3db8cce1e581c0ef16)
And here is a picture of me... I'm 2 months on HRT!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi59.tinypic.com%2F2n65fll.jpg&hash=b3c89a48cbedf969c6305b3db8cce1e581c0ef16)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 04, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 04, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
hi! you are very pretty and it awesome that you already look so feminine at only 2 months on e.
I'm really sorry that your mom keeps stealing your pills. I really hope your able to get back on your meds soon I cant imagine how stressful that is. good luck hun and keep your head up brighter days are coming!
I'm really sorry that your mom keeps stealing your pills. I really hope your able to get back on your meds soon I cant imagine how stressful that is. good luck hun and keep your head up brighter days are coming!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: liz on November 04, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
Post by: liz on November 04, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
A picture at my most natural ( I just got up from bed, my hair probably shows it xD), with no make up or else.
I'm not photogenic at all I look better in the mirror xD.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2a5ho5f.jpg&hash=b0edd5de637b1479cd005df8f01c82a752e48fa6)
I'm not photogenic at all I look better in the mirror xD.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2a5ho5f.jpg&hash=b0edd5de637b1479cd005df8f01c82a752e48fa6)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 05, 2014, 09:35:11 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 05, 2014, 09:35:11 PM
Quote from: liz on November 04, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
A picture at my most natural ( I just got up from bed, my hair probably shows it xD), with no make up or else.
I'm not photogenic at all I look better in the mirror xD.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2a5ho5f.jpg&hash=b0edd5de637b1479cd005df8f01c82a752e48fa6)
you are pretty liz. Its a difficult thing to pass with bed head and no make-up but you pull it off. I would love to see what you look like with your hair styled or some make-up though
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Emily1996 on November 06, 2014, 05:53:49 PM
Post by: Emily1996 on November 06, 2014, 05:53:49 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 04, 2014, 04:51:24 PM
hi! you are very pretty and it awesome that you already look so feminine at only 2 months on e.
I'm really sorry that your mom keeps stealing your pills. I really hope your able to get back on your meds soon I cant imagine how stressful that is. good luck hun and keep your head up brighter days are coming!
Thank you a lot you're really sweet =)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 09:28:39 AM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 06, 2014, 10:45:02 PM
so... do I pass?
Uh - I think I said as much right after your original post and photo. I happen to be an Asian girl aficionado having spent 2.5 years in the far east, so consider that your Auntie Shan knows what she's talking about sweetie!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on November 07, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on November 07, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
So I haven't been here for a while, since I was told that I should wait until I've been on hormones for a while before I post here (and I've just been a bit more confident lately :) ). So here's my two month progress!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlO67SJN.jpg&hash=5fbdd72b9f8f4c8dce65ad5670aa34e7330aee3d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCG5zP24.jpg&hash=2ddf481e116876d2e49eb2b079dad3022b6f5a55)
I've decided that I'm never going to get FFS, since I don't think I'll need it, but I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass better (makeup, eyebrows, etc.) Thanks :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlO67SJN.jpg&hash=5fbdd72b9f8f4c8dce65ad5670aa34e7330aee3d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCG5zP24.jpg&hash=2ddf481e116876d2e49eb2b079dad3022b6f5a55)
I've decided that I'm never going to get FFS, since I don't think I'll need it, but I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass better (makeup, eyebrows, etc.) Thanks :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
Quote from: riversong on November 07, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
So I haven't been here for a while, since I was told that I should wait until I've been on hormones for a while before I post here (and I've just been a bit more confident lately :) ). So here's my two month progress!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlO67SJN.jpg&hash=5fbdd72b9f8f4c8dce65ad5670aa34e7330aee3d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCG5zP24.jpg&hash=2ddf481e116876d2e49eb2b079dad3022b6f5a55)
I've decided that I'm never going to get FFS, since I don't think I'll need it, but I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass better (makeup, eyebrows, etc.) Thanks :)
For some reason you look night and day different and much more female than your earlier photos, Looking rather pretty there sister! I can't comment on make-up, looks like you have your act together.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ataraxia on November 07, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Post by: Ataraxia on November 07, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Quote from: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 11:06:24 AM
For some reason you look night and day different and much more female than your earlier photos, Looking rather pretty there sister! I can't comment on make-up, looks like you have your act together.
Thank you, Miss Shantel :) I think physical hormone changes have a lot to do with it, but I think the change in my disposition and confidence are the biggest change :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on November 07, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
Post by: speckyhailey on November 07, 2014, 11:36:00 AM
Quote from: riversong on November 07, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
So I haven't been here for a while, since I was told that I should wait until I've been on hormones for a while before I post here (and I've just been a bit more confident lately :) ). So here's my two month progress!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlO67SJN.jpg&hash=5fbdd72b9f8f4c8dce65ad5670aa34e7330aee3d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCG5zP24.jpg&hash=2ddf481e116876d2e49eb2b079dad3022b6f5a55)
I've decided that I'm never going to get FFS, since I don't think I'll need it, but I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass better (makeup, eyebrows, etc.) Thanks :)
You're looking really good. Out in public presenting as a girl and I wouldn't clock you :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 07, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 07, 2014, 11:43:11 AM
Quote from: riversong on November 07, 2014, 11:03:11 AM
So I haven't been here for a while, since I was told that I should wait until I've been on hormones for a while before I post here (and I've just been a bit more confident lately :) ). So here's my two month progress!
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FlO67SJN.jpg&hash=5fbdd72b9f8f4c8dce65ad5670aa34e7330aee3d)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FCG5zP24.jpg&hash=2ddf481e116876d2e49eb2b079dad3022b6f5a55)
I've decided that I'm never going to get FFS, since I don't think I'll need it, but I'd like to know if there's anything I can do to pass better (makeup, eyebrows, etc.) Thanks :)
I think you're really pretty! And as far as advice for make-up there are a ton of tutorials online or you could do a consultation. They will help you figure out what makeup works for your face shape and skin tone. I did that and even though the consultation cost some money I was able to spend less overall because it helped me figure out what works for me.
I agree that you don't need ffs though :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 11:48:55 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 11:48:55 AM
Quote from: riversong on November 07, 2014, 11:22:07 AM
Thank you, Miss Shantel :) I think physical hormone changes have a lot to do with it, but I think the change in my disposition and confidence are the biggest change :)
Yes, that has to be 95% for most trans women and when you can project it like that you will invariably pass in public places.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Post by: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 05, 2014, 09:35:11 PM
you are pretty liz. Its a difficult thing to pass with bed head and no make-up but you pull it off. I would love to see what you look like with your hair styled or some make-up though
I took one this morning with light make up and a basic ponytail.
It's crazy how HRT has changed me and made me look this young xD I look like a teenager when I don't overuse make up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fwysqbsqbt%2FDSC_0127.jpg&hash=b00e8a4c42c3667cd486060c31fabafcca2a51b1)
I changed the picture orientation sorry :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 07, 2014, 06:52:17 PM
Quote from: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
I took one this morning with light make up and a basic ponytail.
It's crazy how HRT has changed me and made me look this young xD I look like a teenager when I don't overuse make up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi57.tinypic.com%2F14adhs5.jpg&hash=7b2c2a15d738a615b02d4c1f87859de22804baf7)
You do look young and you are a darling. I'm getting a crick in my neck looking at your pretty face though. ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 07, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 07, 2014, 08:05:45 PM
Quote from: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
I took one this morning with light make up and a basic ponytail.
It's crazy how HRT has changed me and made me look this young xD I look like a teenager when I don't overuse make up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fwysqbsqbt%2FDSC_0127.jpg&hash=b00e8a4c42c3667cd486060c31fabafcca2a51b1)
I changed the picture orientation sorry :)
you have a really beautiful natural look, and i love your natural red hair!!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on November 07, 2014, 08:41:57 PM
Post by: V M on November 07, 2014, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: liz on November 04, 2014, 07:20:23 PM
A picture at my most natural ( I just got up from bed, my hair probably shows it xD), with no make up or else.
I'm not photogenic at all I look better in the mirror xD.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi61.tinypic.com%2F2a5ho5f.jpg&hash=b0edd5de637b1479cd005df8f01c82a752e48fa6)
Quote from: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
I took one this morning with light make up and a basic ponytail.
It's crazy how HRT has changed me and made me look this young xD I look like a teenager when I don't overuse make up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fwysqbsqbt%2FDSC_0127.jpg&hash=b00e8a4c42c3667cd486060c31fabafcca2a51b1)
I changed the picture orientation sorry :)
LOL... You look a lot like one of my cousin's granddaughters 8) She's about the same age
You're coming along very nicely, very pretty :icon_chick: The HRT has done well for you
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: liz on November 07, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
Post by: liz on November 07, 2014, 08:53:12 PM
Quote from: V M on November 07, 2014, 08:41:57 PM
LOL... You look a lot like one of my cousin's granddaughters 8) She's about the same age
You're coming along very nicely, very pretty :icon_chick: The HRT has done well for you
Thanks :) I'm gonna post in before/after if I can find an old picture
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on November 08, 2014, 05:24:47 AM
Post by: barbie on November 08, 2014, 05:24:47 AM
Quote from: liz on November 07, 2014, 06:43:42 PM
I took one this morning with light make up and a basic ponytail.
It's crazy how HRT has changed me and made me look this young xD I look like a teenager when I don't overuse make up.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs10.postimg.org%2Fwysqbsqbt%2FDSC_0127.jpg&hash=b00e8a4c42c3667cd486060c31fabafcca2a51b1)
I changed the picture orientation sorry :)
Sure. Liz, you pass 100%.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 08, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Post by: April_TO on November 08, 2014, 08:14:33 AM
Liz, you are a woman. Pretty :) 101% pass!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 08, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
Post by: April_TO on November 08, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
I've taken this pic last night :) just fooling around with my camera.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMNQKlp3.jpg&hash=039042cbfed1d34eb7283d4ceec8ceb39bc09461)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMNQKlp3.jpg&hash=039042cbfed1d34eb7283d4ceec8ceb39bc09461)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 08, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 08, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
definitely female! :)
You look like you are intense though. I don't mean that as a negative just pointing that out.
you have really pretty eyes and skin.
you have a very pretty avatar pic as well!
I think I like the hair color in that one slightly more. You definitely pass though!
You look like you are intense though. I don't mean that as a negative just pointing that out.
you have really pretty eyes and skin.
you have a very pretty avatar pic as well!
I think I like the hair color in that one slightly more. You definitely pass though!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 08, 2014, 08:17:18 AM
I've taken this pic last night :) just fooling around with my camera.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FMNQKlp3.jpg&hash=039042cbfed1d34eb7283d4ceec8ceb39bc09461)
Oh yeah, quite pretty but try to smile next time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BeingSonia on November 08, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
Post by: BeingSonia on November 08, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
First day on estrogen. Got my first shot yesterday.
So, I start from here:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F133472A6-10AF-467C-AD61-C7C5D92EA84F_zpscpddaxdk.jpg&hash=b286d72c952c87eb797d06bc3228d43bb7d82f42)
Being negative by nature, I don't expect much.
I have to get my hair growing back (eventually a better hair cut too), get better with the make-up, shape my eyebrows, get my triple eyelids fixed (maybe my chin too) and JUST BEING MYSELF!
Lot of work ahead and being patient.
So, I start from here:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F133472A6-10AF-467C-AD61-C7C5D92EA84F_zpscpddaxdk.jpg&hash=b286d72c952c87eb797d06bc3228d43bb7d82f42)
Being negative by nature, I don't expect much.
I have to get my hair growing back (eventually a better hair cut too), get better with the make-up, shape my eyebrows, get my triple eyelids fixed (maybe my chin too) and JUST BEING MYSELF!
Lot of work ahead and being patient.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
Quote from: BeingSonia on November 08, 2014, 07:14:43 PM
First day on estrogen. Got my first shot yesterday.
So, I start from here:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi102.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fm82%2Fsonia274%2F133472A6-10AF-467C-AD61-C7C5D92EA84F_zpscpddaxdk.jpg&hash=b286d72c952c87eb797d06bc3228d43bb7d82f42)
Being negative by nature, I don't expect much.
I have to get my hair growing back (eventually a better hair cut too), get better with the make-up, shape my eyebrows, get my triple eyelids fixed (maybe my chin too) and JUST BEING MYSELF!
Lot of work ahead and being patient.
You have a nice face! Rome wasn't invented in a day, it takes time and patience. You go girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
Thanks Amber...you are beautiful and graceful. Thanks for the wonderful compliment.
Yes I do look intense in that pic intentionally LOL.
This pic should be more friendlier :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhrVzCX3.jpg&hash=3031c5f40d787f71a26663915c513e2e91cd875c)
Yes I do look intense in that pic intentionally LOL.
This pic should be more friendlier :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhrVzCX3.jpg&hash=3031c5f40d787f71a26663915c513e2e91cd875c)
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 08, 2014, 09:45:17 AM
definitely female! :)
You look like you are intense though. I don't mean that as a negative just pointing that out.
you have really pretty eyes and skin.
you have a very pretty avatar pic as well!
I think I like the hair color in that one slightly more. You definitely pass though!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 01:31:15 AM
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 01:31:15 AM
Thank you Ms. Shantel will do xo
I must say you are also looking fab.
I must say you are also looking fab.
Quote from: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 09:45:30 AM
Oh yeah, quite pretty but try to smile next time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 09, 2014, 05:59:11 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 09, 2014, 05:59:11 AM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 09, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
Thanks Amber...you are beautiful and graceful. Thanks for the wonderful compliment.
Yes I do look intense in that pic intentionally LOL.
This pic should be more friendlier :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhrVzCX3.jpg&hash=3031c5f40d787f71a26663915c513e2e91cd875c)
Thanks! This is definitely a better pic in my opinion. You have a really elegant smile!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Ms Grace on November 09, 2014, 06:05:42 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on November 09, 2014, 06:05:42 AM
As always, lots of stunning ladies here... you should be posting on the fabulous thread!!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 09:00:14 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 09:00:14 AM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 09, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
This pic should be more friendlier :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhrVzCX3.jpg&hash=3031c5f40d787f71a26663915c513e2e91cd875c)
A smile makes you look so much more radiant and approachable, what a pretty face!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April Lee on November 09, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
Post by: April Lee on November 09, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
It has become utterly impossible for me to judge my pictures anymore. They have become like optical illusions for me. Sometimes I look at them one way and see one thing, and sometimes I look at them another way and see something else. They are all selfies taken with a cheap webcam, in the middle of the night, after returning from a club date. And what I see in the mirror is something different than I see in the photos. Sometimes I think I look worse in the photos and sometimes better, but it is never the same. The digital photography does weird things with the light and shadow. Yet when I looked at last nights pictures, I can't recognize this person I am seeing as anyway connected to my old life. She is a completely new creature. Whether she passes in any sense is a different subject.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fnqcnsk.jpg&hash=bd29c97b0fa94aae5255da1fb282c01bae832c65) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F2dihnv6.jpg&hash=cc721a84c6ccee3b66138b9865ed0ec45958c4f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F353a9f6.jpg&hash=02ede42ab3b13960a8722b8575c69f9ddb8d567a)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi60.tinypic.com%2Fnqcnsk.jpg&hash=bd29c97b0fa94aae5255da1fb282c01bae832c65) (https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F2dihnv6.jpg&hash=cc721a84c6ccee3b66138b9865ed0ec45958c4f7)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F353a9f6.jpg&hash=02ede42ab3b13960a8722b8575c69f9ddb8d567a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 11:28:15 AM
Quote from: April Lee on November 09, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
I can't recognize this person I am seeing as anyway connected to my old life. She is a completely new creature. Whether she passes in any sense is a different subject.
Of course she does, you should be posting in the fabulous thread instead of this one.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 09, 2014, 12:40:01 PM
Quote from: lemons on November 09, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
I'm really reluctant to keep this top because I feel it does nothing good for my upper body,(makes my shoulders and upper body look like a linebacker) no matter how I wear a skirt underneath it. (whether high waisted or letting the top hang down) I look really clockable in most of these to myself:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FQqgRe3Ol.jpg&hash=92f3b0b1e1c7c9ae0abf538cf7037b833f8340c5)
I really don't think so, you're seeing something different probably based on your former self perception which is pretty common. That top looks very feminine on you, keep it!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 12:48:25 PM
No dont get rid of that top. Give it to me :D
It's very feminine and very cute on you.
You are 101% pass..gorgeous!
It's very feminine and very cute on you.
You are 101% pass..gorgeous!
Quote from: lemons on November 09, 2014, 12:30:34 PM
I'm really reluctant to keep this top because I feel it does nothing good for my upper body,(makes my shoulders and upper body look like a linebacker) no matter how I wear a skirt underneath it. (whether high waisted or letting the top hang down) I look really clockable in most of these to myself:
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F5CGQNPSl.jpg&hash=da88254c1d7d0a6642c664185688c7fcc824854d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 12:52:26 PM
Thanks again Amber and Shantel xoxo
You ladies are amazing and great support to this community.
You ladies are amazing and great support to this community.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 09, 2014, 05:59:11 AM
Thanks! This is definitely a better pic in my opinion. You have a really elegant smile!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: BeingSonia on November 09, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
Post by: BeingSonia on November 09, 2014, 03:43:07 PM
Quote from: Shantel on November 08, 2014, 08:33:51 PM
You have a nice face! Rome wasn't invented in a day, it takes time and patience. You go girl!
Thanks Shantel!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: liz on November 09, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
Post by: liz on November 09, 2014, 04:33:48 PM
Quote from: April Lee on November 09, 2014, 11:18:28 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Foi62.tinypic.com%2F353a9f6.jpg&hash=02ede42ab3b13960a8722b8575c69f9ddb8d567a)
Well I think you are beatiful especially on this one, you seem more relax and serene. Keep this attitude if you can, we can see the sparkles in your eyes. I'm sure you pass very well.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: liz on November 09, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
Post by: liz on November 09, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 09, 2014, 01:29:45 AM
This pic should be more friendlier :D
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FhrVzCX3.jpg&hash=3031c5f40d787f71a26663915c513e2e91cd875c)
This pictures made me want to be your friend you look great and are inviting friendship :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 06:59:46 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 09, 2014, 06:59:46 PM
Thanks Liz, let's be friends :)
Quote from: liz on November 09, 2014, 04:36:00 PM
This pictures made me want to be your friend you look great and are inviting friendship :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10733609_10153242081904838_290500505_n.jpg?oh=3a7978437d162b14f2a6b91f3a4f8e9e&oe=5462F977&__gda__=1415780803_bfff476f1245d53d15740ab8c70bd8d4)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: stephaniec on November 10, 2014, 03:30:33 AM
Post by: stephaniec on November 10, 2014, 03:30:33 AM
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:16:12 AMyes
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10733609_10153242081904838_290500505_n.jpg?oh=3a7978437d162b14f2a6b91f3a4f8e9e&oe=5462F977&__gda__=1415780803_bfff476f1245d53d15740ab8c70bd8d4)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 04:16:37 AM
Post by: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 04:16:37 AM
Hey all, been a while since I've posted anything here. I recently reached out to several surgeons asking for FFS recommendations. I already know some of the procedures I want, but I'm curious what others would consider in my position. I guess maybe I'm just looking for validation that I'm not being overly critical. Every time I tell a friend what I'm considering they are like 'oh you don't need anything, your face is great!' And while I appreciate that they are trying to affirm that I'm great as I am, I still think that FFS could greatly improve my appearance as well as my quality of life and general happiness. See, I don't want there to be any guesswork in people's minds as to whether I'm male or female when they look at me. I want to be free to walk around in public without worrying about whether someone is going to react badly. Not saying that I don't have the strength to deal with that now and tell someone to shove it if they are being an A-hole. But it can get tiresome dealing with that all the time, or even just worrying about it.
So anyway, pictures of my face are below in all it's naked no-makeup glory with hair pulled back. Tell me what you think. Currently I'm considering the following: brow lift, forehead/brow/orbital rim contouring, hairline lowering, rhinoplasty (subtle refinement), lip lift and augmentation, maybe cheek augmentation, trachea shave, and something to address dark spots under eyes (blepharoplasty or fillers or both, whatever is recommended)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s8FBvaGb1dg/VGCKBnECZKI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/iRO8MMWGZlM/w1598-h480-no/Pre-FFS.jpg)
So anyway, pictures of my face are below in all it's naked no-makeup glory with hair pulled back. Tell me what you think. Currently I'm considering the following: brow lift, forehead/brow/orbital rim contouring, hairline lowering, rhinoplasty (subtle refinement), lip lift and augmentation, maybe cheek augmentation, trachea shave, and something to address dark spots under eyes (blepharoplasty or fillers or both, whatever is recommended)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s8FBvaGb1dg/VGCKBnECZKI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/iRO8MMWGZlM/w1598-h480-no/Pre-FFS.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Nicolette on November 10, 2014, 05:11:07 AM
Post by: Nicolette on November 10, 2014, 05:11:07 AM
Quote from: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:16:12 AM
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-h-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xpf1/v/t34.0-12/10733609_10153242081904838_290500505_n.jpg?oh=3a7978437d162b14f2a6b91f3a4f8e9e&oe=5462F977&__gda__=1415780803_bfff476f1245d53d15740ab8c70bd8d4)
The difference is like night and day. I first thought that you had $20,000 worth of FFS, but it seems all you did was start HRT and pluck those brows. I thought you were against HRT?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on November 10, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
Post by: Brenda E on November 10, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
Quote from: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 04:16:37 AMSo anyway, pictures of my face are below in all it's naked no-makeup glory with hair pulled back. Tell me what you think. Currently I'm considering the following: brow lift, forehead/brow/orbital rim contouring, hairline lowering, rhinoplasty (subtle refinement), lip lift and augmentation, maybe cheek augmentation, trachea shave, and something to address dark spots under eyes (blepharoplasty or fillers or both, whatever is recommended)
You need nothing Alaia - if that's your stripped-down photo, you look far prettier than most stripped-down cis-women.
But since you asked, and since such broad compliments are often less than constructive...
Your hair seems ok to me, but the hairline could be moved forward a little bit, depending on how much you wear your hair pulled back and regularly showing the natural hairline. And the trachea shave might be a good idea, only because in the photos it stands out a little bit.
The stuff in between the hairline and the trachea - the whole "face" part of you - looks pretty good to me. As with all of us, there's tweaks here and there which might help, but nothing screams "man!" If your surgeon can produce results that are extremely subtle and undetectable, then it might be a good move; just don't end up with a face that looks like it's obviously had work done. There's already a very cute girl in those photos (and in your avatar pic), and it would be a shame to ruin that cute natural look with some aggressive surgery. :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 06:48:33 AM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 06:48:33 AM
Alaia you look great, but if you feel like you need ffs go for it. I think that the most beneficial ones for you would be the hairline lowering, a brow lift, and a trachea shave.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Just Shelly on November 10, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
Post by: Just Shelly on November 10, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
Quote from: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 04:16:37 AM
Hey all, been a while since I've posted anything here. I recently reached out to several surgeons asking for FFS recommendations. I already know some of the procedures I want, but I'm curious what others would consider in my position. I guess maybe I'm just looking for validation that I'm not being overly critical. Every time I tell a friend what I'm considering they are like 'oh you don't need anything, your face is great!' And while I appreciate that they are trying to affirm that I'm great as I am, I still think that FFS could greatly improve my appearance as well as my quality of life and general happiness. See, I don't want there to be any guesswork in people's minds as to whether I'm male or female when they look at me. I want to be free to walk around in public without worrying about whether someone is going to react badly. Not saying that I don't have the strength to deal with that now and tell someone to shove it if they are being an A-hole. But it can get tiresome dealing with that all the time, or even just worrying about it.
So anyway, pictures of my face are below in all it's naked no-makeup glory with hair pulled back. Tell me what you think. Currently I'm considering the following: brow lift, forehead/brow/orbital rim contouring, hairline lowering, rhinoplasty (subtle refinement), lip lift and augmentation, maybe cheek augmentation, trachea shave, and something to address dark spots under eyes (blepharoplasty or fillers or both, whatever is recommended)
(https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-s8FBvaGb1dg/VGCKBnECZKI/AAAAAAAAAwQ/iRO8MMWGZlM/w1598-h480-no/Pre-FFS.jpg)
I never comment on anyone's pics....but because you seem to look very similar to myself I felt I needed too. :)
Honestly the only thing I would definitely do if I was in your position is a trachea shave. Fortunately I don't have any Adams apple.....never even knew I didn't LOL
For the rest, yes you (or I) could definitely have some other procedures....but nothing a little....and I mean a little makeup can't take care of. My hairline is very similar to yours....maybe even a bit more receded above the temples. I'm not ecstatic over it, but I'm also not the only woman with a similar hairline.
There is something about the width of your face between the area of your ears that seems more male than female BUT!!! you have no makeup on! Eye makeup can make a huge difference! With eye makeup I am sure I would not notice this as much. The amount of space between the upper lip and nose is also more in the male range BUT!! again nothing severe....and also nothing a little makeup can't pull the eye away from.
In all I think you look pretty decent for no makeup.....I give you kudos!! Something I definitely couldn't do :) Without makeup I think I would gender you female around 70-80% the 70 only being the Adams apple, without that I would say 80%. I think you would be fine without any FFS but possible a trachea shave.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
Post by: Alaia on November 10, 2014, 10:30:50 AM
Quote from: Brenda E on November 10, 2014, 06:23:52 AM
You need nothing Alaia - if that's your stripped-down photo, you look far prettier than most stripped-down cis-women.
But since you asked, and since such broad compliments are often less than constructive...
Your hair seems ok to me, but the hairline could be moved forward a little bit, depending on how much you wear your hair pulled back and regularly showing the natural hairline. And the trachea shave might be a good idea, only because in the photos it stands out a little bit.
The stuff in between the hairline and the trachea - the whole "face" part of you - looks pretty good to me. As with all of us, there's tweaks here and there which might help, but nothing screams "man!" If your surgeon can produce results that are extremely subtle and undetectable, then it might be a good move; just don't end up with a face that looks like it's obviously had work done. There's already a very cute girl in those photos (and in your avatar pic), and it would be a shame to ruin that cute natural look with some aggressive surgery. :)
Thanks Brenda, I appreciate it. And I absolutely agree about not ruining my natural look--I don't want anything overly aggressive done in the areas mentioned, just a subtle refinement.
Quote from: Hanazono on November 10, 2014, 06:40:34 AMThank you for your comment Hanazono. I suppose I could save money for other stuff, but I really believe the money spent on FFS is an investment in which the emotional dividends will far outweigh the costs. This isn't something that I've considered lightly. I realize my face is very androgynous, but I still feel there are enough male markers there for it to be perceived as male rather than female. All I want is to just slightly correct and soften things so that my face readily reads female.
When I read FFS, I went to look at your pics and thought - Not bad for postop pics. But it boggles my mind you have not had FFS yet. Maybe you could just save the money for other stuff.
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 06:48:33 AMThank you so much Amber! Your comment was short, to the point, and provided an opinion without coming off as judgmental--which is exactly what I was looking for. I really appreciate it. :)
Alaia you look great, but if you feel like you need ffs go for it. I think that the most beneficial ones for you would be the hairline lowering, a brow lift, and a trachea shave.
Quote from: Just Shelly on November 10, 2014, 08:36:09 AM
I never comment on anyone's pics....but because you seem to look very similar to myself I felt I needed too. :)
Honestly the only thing I would definitely do if I was in your position is a trachea shave. Fortunately I don't have any Adams apple.....never even knew I didn't LOL
For the rest, yes you (or I) could definitely have some other procedures....but nothing a little....and I mean a little makeup can't take care of. My hairline is very similar to yours....maybe even a bit more receded above the temples. I'm not ecstatic over it, but I'm also not the only woman with a similar hairline.
There is something about the width of your face between the area of your ears that seems more male than female BUT!!! you have no makeup on! Eye makeup can make a huge difference! With eye makeup I am sure I would not notice this as much. The amount of space between the upper lip and nose is also more in the male range BUT!! again nothing severe....and also nothing a little makeup can't pull the eye away from.
In all I think you look pretty decent for no makeup.....I give you kudos!! Something I definitely couldn't do :) Without makeup I think I would gender you female around 70-80% the 70 only being the Adams apple, without that I would say 80%. I think you would be fine without any FFS but possible a trachea shave.
Some really good input there Shelly, I appreciate it. These pictures don't completely show my hairline either, it actually goes pretty high on the sides, which makes styling very annoying as I have to place my hair in a way to hide it. But you're right, many cis women have the same issue, I know a couple at work that are in that position.
Your comments also picked up on one of the areas I'm very torn over, the width of my face. I'm certain a well done cheek augmentation would address this, but I'm also wondering if I shouldn't just wait that one out. Another year or two of HRT could very well address that. Although I don't think it could hurt anything to have it done either. I dunno, I'll have to see what the doctors say during consultation and then give it some more thought.
And yeah, with makeup on I am perceived as female for the most part. But I'd like to take things from 70-80% up to 90-95%. I know I specified several areas I'm considering getting work done on, but really, I'm going to stress with the doctor that I don't want anything too extreme. I know I'm almost there and a subtle approach to take me the rest of the way is all that is needed.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sammy on November 10, 2014, 11:35:35 AM
Post by: Sammy on November 10, 2014, 11:35:35 AM
I wanted to take a full body pic with proportions and whatnot. It sort of worked out and at least I know now that I need to clean that mirror.
Smiley picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU1qZRvF.jpg&hash=07d23ff396f24037f4663aad59e2da88429beac4)
Mean looking
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3JlDlfE.jpg&hash=d5490e3841876ad7e3a7e720e87adbe54fa4c3c1)
And just to prove that is is all about right angles etc etc etc.
A boy :D (lol, this body can do more pull-ups than my best male friend...)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8E086kU.jpg&hash=017ddbfcda878bdf4a3b8c30aff393fc042b860b)
Smiley picture
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FU1qZRvF.jpg&hash=07d23ff396f24037f4663aad59e2da88429beac4)
Mean looking
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F3JlDlfE.jpg&hash=d5490e3841876ad7e3a7e720e87adbe54fa4c3c1)
And just to prove that is is all about right angles etc etc etc.
A boy :D (lol, this body can do more pull-ups than my best male friend...)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F8E086kU.jpg&hash=017ddbfcda878bdf4a3b8c30aff393fc042b860b)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:09:59 PM
Post by: Danielle Emmalee on November 10, 2014, 12:09:59 PM
Quote from: Nicolette on November 10, 2014, 05:11:07 AM
The difference is like night and day. I first thought that you had $20,000 worth of FFS, but it seems all you did was start HRT and pluck those brows. I thought you were against HRT?
Thanks! I was at one point planning to not be on HRT. Changed my mind
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: AnnaCannibal on November 10, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
Post by: AnnaCannibal on November 10, 2014, 12:10:39 PM
Emily, even in that boy mode your face says feminine.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Clarity on November 10, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
Post by: Clarity on November 10, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
I so want to post a recent photo of me for this, but I can't seem to figure out this stupid hyper-linking thing. My current avatar photo is from about 2 months ago. I don't normally go with straight hair though. I have natural curls. The hair I have in my photo is from getting a stylist to straighten it. Anyways, I could use some feedback.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 10, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 10, 2014, 08:21:46 PM
Quote from: Clarity on November 10, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
I so want to post a recent photo of me for this, but I can't seem to figure out this stupid hyper-linking thing. My current avatar photo is from about 2 months ago. I don't normally go with straight hair though. I have natural curls. The hair I have in my photo is from getting a stylist to straighten it. Anyways, I could use some feedback.
You have to upload your photos to an online photo hosting site like ImageShack or one of those and they provide a link to download to a forum.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 10, 2014, 08:42:11 PM
Quote from: Clarity on November 10, 2014, 08:18:13 PM
I so want to post a recent photo of me for this, but I can't seem to figure out this stupid hyper-linking thing. My current avatar photo is from about 2 months ago. I don't normally go with straight hair though. I have natural curls. The hair I have in my photo is from getting a stylist to straighten it. Anyways, I could use some feedback.
I just copy my pics from facebook.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JustASeq on November 11, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
Post by: JustASeq on November 11, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2F8igavks6j%2F20141027_140655.jpg&hash=edb14114bd904678b07002fd743f211db6c1ad94) (http://postimg.org/image/8igavks6j/)
hair down...also making an interesting face.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fycli7m2sr%2Fseq4.jpg&hash=41c2181e75b411fc05c4dfacaef8356a12f0c2ce) (http://postimg.org/image/ycli7m2sr/)
Hair up, at work...
I've been on HRT for somewhere between 5 and 6 months.
hair down...also making an interesting face.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fycli7m2sr%2Fseq4.jpg&hash=41c2181e75b411fc05c4dfacaef8356a12f0c2ce) (http://postimg.org/image/ycli7m2sr/)
Hair up, at work...
I've been on HRT for somewhere between 5 and 6 months.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 11, 2014, 02:44:22 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 11, 2014, 02:44:22 PM
Quote from: JustASeq on November 11, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2F8igavks6j%2F20141027_140655.jpg&hash=edb14114bd904678b07002fd743f211db6c1ad94) (http://postimg.org/image/8igavks6j/)
hair down...also making an interesting face.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fycli7m2sr%2Fseq4.jpg&hash=41c2181e75b411fc05c4dfacaef8356a12f0c2ce) (http://postimg.org/image/ycli7m2sr/)
Hair up, at work...
I've been on HRT for somewhere between 5 and 6 months.
Yes you can. Outrageous hair color, you've got to be a fun type!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 02:53:54 PM
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 02:53:54 PM
Hmm,
An update from my last outing...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg673%2F4865%2FF3oJj2.jpg&hash=c7d5032e923424372ae093e34ec2d3145df7a474)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg743%2F8066%2FzozUfN.jpg&hash=5ae2cc1a2c8ded6f2fbc8de13da7e646444cb902)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg913%2F4495%2Ftmlr3k.jpg&hash=3f7869071c6bed95bc7c0519157e18af683ce934)
And my Forum Avatar. :)
I think I'm making progress, Slowly..but progress.
Jessika
An update from my last outing...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg673%2F4865%2FF3oJj2.jpg&hash=c7d5032e923424372ae093e34ec2d3145df7a474)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg743%2F8066%2FzozUfN.jpg&hash=5ae2cc1a2c8ded6f2fbc8de13da7e646444cb902)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimageshack.com%2Fa%2Fimg913%2F4495%2Ftmlr3k.jpg&hash=3f7869071c6bed95bc7c0519157e18af683ce934)
And my Forum Avatar. :)
I think I'm making progress, Slowly..but progress.
Jessika
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
Post by: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
I took this last month
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 08:41:44 PM
Quote from: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PMI'm Jelly! Go girl! ;D
I took this last month
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
OMG Llerret and Jessika. Totally sexy and beautiful :)
I took a pic of myself this morning on my way to meet a friend. However, I am not as sexy as you guys are :D Just sharing this pic.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKg8luUR.jpg&hash=5118a97a087eeea94352a91867699ee10565ce90)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6mxoyel.jpg&hash=6096df164d21c972f158eed1a7176ac9e8e0e28a)
I took a pic of myself this morning on my way to meet a friend. However, I am not as sexy as you guys are :D Just sharing this pic.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKg8luUR.jpg&hash=5118a97a087eeea94352a91867699ee10565ce90)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6mxoyel.jpg&hash=6096df164d21c972f158eed1a7176ac9e8e0e28a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: NaiveNicole on November 11, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Post by: NaiveNicole on November 11, 2014, 09:15:30 PM
Carmenkate, you look amazingly cute in that outfit
Here is a very deceptive photo of myself. Hopefully going to start electrolysis and HRT soon.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7vNrj0z.jpg&hash=35cb805722af28799d196bd966c6484ea7b67b17)
Here is a very deceptive photo of myself. Hopefully going to start electrolysis and HRT soon.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F7vNrj0z.jpg&hash=35cb805722af28799d196bd966c6484ea7b67b17)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:20:20 PM
OMG NaiveNicole, you are pre HRT and you are looking a total pass for me - 101% beautiful :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 09:27:00 PM
Totally a rockstar gal :) beautiful!
Quote from: JustASeq on November 11, 2014, 02:41:14 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2F8igavks6j%2F20141027_140655.jpg&hash=edb14114bd904678b07002fd743f211db6c1ad94) (http://postimg.org/image/8igavks6j/)
hair down...also making an interesting face.....
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fs25.postimg.org%2Fycli7m2sr%2Fseq4.jpg&hash=41c2181e75b411fc05c4dfacaef8356a12f0c2ce) (http://postimg.org/image/ycli7m2sr/)
Hair up, at work...
I've been on HRT for somewhere between 5 and 6 months.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Post by: Jessika on November 11, 2014, 10:37:38 PM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 11, 2014, 09:04:38 PMcarmen, You look like a hot Cis Woman to me. My Wife is Asian btw. ;D
OMG Llerret and Jessika. Totally sexy and beautiful :)
I took a pic of myself this morning on my way to meet a friend. However, I am not as sexy as you guys are :D Just sharing this pic.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKg8luUR.jpg&hash=5118a97a087eeea94352a91867699ee10565ce90)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6mxoyel.jpg&hash=6096df164d21c972f158eed1a7176ac9e8e0e28a)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 10:49:08 PM
Thanks Jessika ;) I'm sure she must be pretty. It's an honour getting that compliment from such a beautiful lady.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Isabelle on November 11, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
Post by: Isabelle on November 11, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
Do I?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg&hash=64fbd4ed742367a61ed0a80562aad6354ece4904) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg.html)
Ffs planned for next year...
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg&hash=64fbd4ed742367a61ed0a80562aad6354ece4904) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg.html)
Ffs planned for next year...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 11:50:39 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 11, 2014, 11:50:39 PM
Isabelle, you look pretty as it is. In my humble opinion, you don't need FFS. 101% pass :)
Quote from: Isabelle on November 11, 2014, 11:29:55 PM
Do I?
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2F6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg&hash=64fbd4ed742367a61ed0a80562aad6354ece4904) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/6B72A67F-B625-4F63-8909-4D7E0221A4B8_zpstbcwwiny.jpg.html)
Ffs planned for next year...
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Seras on November 12, 2014, 03:24:35 AM
Post by: Seras on November 12, 2014, 03:24:35 AM
Lookin good Isabelle. You should totally get the FFS though, not cause you look bad but cause you will look awesome.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: LilDevilOfPrada on November 12, 2014, 03:31:50 AM
Post by: LilDevilOfPrada on November 12, 2014, 03:31:50 AM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 11, 2014, 11:50:39 PM
Isabelle, you look pretty as it is. In my humble opinion, you don't need FFS. 101% pass :)
I agree I wouldn't waste the money.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 12, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 12, 2014, 10:26:45 AM
Quote from: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
I took this last month
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
Seems that all you gals always think that what you have is never enough, llerret you're one fine looking woman in my book, I wouldn't change a thing!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: speckyhailey on November 12, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Post by: speckyhailey on November 12, 2014, 01:45:07 PM
Quote from: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
I took this last month
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
WOAAAAAHHHHHHHHH gurl you look good! 100% pass :-*
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 12, 2014, 05:02:35 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 12, 2014, 05:02:35 PM
Quote from: carmenkate on November 11, 2014, 09:04:38 PM
OMG Llerret and Jessika. Totally sexy and beautiful :)
I took a pic of myself this morning on my way to meet a friend. However, I am not as sexy as you guys are :D Just sharing this pic.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FKg8luUR.jpg&hash=5118a97a087eeea94352a91867699ee10565ce90)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2F6mxoyel.jpg&hash=6096df164d21c972f158eed1a7176ac9e8e0e28a)
Damn you've got really nice curves! Im totally jealous.
Quote from: llerret on November 11, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
I took this last month
I'd loveeee more breast lol and maybe my face can soften up more?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xaf1/v/t1.0-9/10703735_280320728829903_1221806287743432251_n.jpg?oh=8a878fd8fba28748d49ebd3abfdc4f49&oe=54D80522&__gda__=1424397459_871524e2fbaaca365ef96f8aeaaf683d)
^^^^^^^^
model status
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jill F on November 13, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
Post by: Jill F on November 13, 2014, 12:37:02 PM
Let's be nice to each other, OK? This is a support site after all.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: boatgirl on November 13, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
Post by: boatgirl on November 13, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F103a2wl.jpg&hash=8506791cf83f4d118bd70c405401435793aba4c0)
How do I look? :)
How do I look? :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 13, 2014, 02:08:29 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 13, 2014, 02:08:29 PM
Quote from: boatgirl on November 13, 2014, 02:04:45 PM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F103a2wl.jpg&hash=8506791cf83f4d118bd70c405401435793aba4c0)
How do I look? :)
You're cute, I see your tummy and belly button cute stuff! ;D
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessica Merriman on November 13, 2014, 02:36:36 PM
Post by: Jessica Merriman on November 13, 2014, 02:36:36 PM
Quote from: boatgirl on November 13, 2014, 02:04:45 PMHOW DO YOU LOOK? Totally incredible girl. Go straight to the Fabulous topic!! :)
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi58.tinypic.com%2F103a2wl.jpg&hash=8506791cf83f4d118bd70c405401435793aba4c0)
How do I look? :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on November 13, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on November 13, 2014, 11:32:51 PM
I wore this at home today just relaxing. My friend came by and had to take an anxiety pill because I refused to change cloths. Am I too cute or something? haha ::)
OR do I look BAD? ??? (No makeup...No HRT) I think he gave me a complex.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Ftoocute.jpg&hash=e7da44bf2f549e4d98d39eeff94e56d2abb72737)
OR do I look BAD? ??? (No makeup...No HRT) I think he gave me a complex.
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.wizards-domain.com%2Fjade%2Ftoocute.jpg&hash=e7da44bf2f549e4d98d39eeff94e56d2abb72737)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 12:20:42 AM
Quote from: Hanazono on November 14, 2014, 12:16:21 AM
cute shoes. don't slouch... you look great. stand up like your proud of yourself
::) lol thanks. Sounds like my Mom she always says "don't slouch" haha. I do have a bad spine tho... long story.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sheila_spain on November 14, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
Post by: Sheila_spain on November 14, 2014, 08:52:51 AM
you look very cute :) haha an anxiety pill :D
cute picture
cute picture
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Sheila_spain on November 14, 2014, 09:30:28 AM
Post by: Sheila_spain on November 14, 2014, 09:30:28 AM
Don't know
I've had serious problems taking HRT on the last months[img][http://imageshack.com/a/img903/4315/J4D3Zi.jpg]
now i don't know about the physical appearance ???
I've had serious problems taking HRT on the last months[img][http://imageshack.com/a/img903/4315/J4D3Zi.jpg]
now i don't know about the physical appearance ???
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 01:35:08 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 01:35:08 PM
Quote from: Sheila_spain on November 14, 2014, 09:30:28 AM
Don't know
I've had serious problems taking HRT on the last months[img]http://[http://imageshack.com/a/img903/4315/J4D3Zi.jpg]
now i don't know about the physical appearance ???
Link not embed right. I did copy URL and see the image
Picture is a bit fuzzy. Looks like a girl in fuzzy mode :laugh:
Hard to tell real features tho ;)
Love,
Jade
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
alright here I go again.
still pre-everything.
do I pass in this pic?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10620407_358478364334709_5098085448795616985_o.jpg)
still pre-everything.
do I pass in this pic?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10620407_358478364334709_5098085448795616985_o.jpg)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JustASeq on November 14, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Post by: JustASeq on November 14, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
alright here I go again.
still pre-everything.
do I pass in this pic?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10620407_358478364334709_5098085448795616985_o.jpg)
Definitely, also I really like your hair :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
Post by: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
alright here I go again.
still pre-everything.
do I pass in this pic?
(https://fbcdn-sphotos-c-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xfa1/t31.0-8/10620407_358478364334709_5098085448795616985_o.jpg)
Pic is dark but yes you could pass I think.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: April_TO on November 14, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Post by: April_TO on November 14, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Definitely a pass :) you are pretty Amber.
101% gorgeous
101% gorgeous
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 09:32:21 PM
Quote from: JustASeq on November 14, 2014, 08:55:19 PM
Definitely, also I really like your hair :)
thanks!
Quote from: Jade_404 on November 14, 2014, 09:00:30 PM
Pic is dark but yes you could pass I think.
Honestly the darkness helped me hide my shadow....
Quote from: carmenkate on November 14, 2014, 09:00:53 PM
Definitely a pass :) you are pretty Amber.
101% gorgeous
;D thanks Carmen! that means a lot coming from such a beautiful girl!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
do i pass ? :) even tho this pic is a fair few month old and my hair its rally long now and down my back
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 11:14:49 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 11:14:49 AM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
do i pass ? :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
One good looking woman there Salya!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
Quote from: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 11:14:49 AMhehe ty . i haven't had any sergary yet and haven't started my hormones yet , im currently waiting to be able to start throu the NHS :icon_2gun:
One good looking woman there Salya!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 11:28:59 AM
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 11:28:59 AM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:19:29 AM
hehe ty . i haven't had any sergary yet and haven't started my hormones yet , im currently waiting to be able to start throu the NHS :icon_2gun:
No doubt you will have a stellar outcome following transition. :eusa_clap:
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
stellar outcome ?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
Post by: Shantel on November 15, 2014, 12:03:30 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:37:23 AM
stellar outcome ?
Yup another term for terrific!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
do i pass ? :) even tho this pic is a fair few month old and my hair its rally long now and down my back
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
HOT!
I would also like to say that if you were to misplace that vest around me I would probably steal it lol jk. It is really cute though
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 12:14:48 PM
HOT!
I would also like to say that if you were to misplace that vest around me I would probably steal it lol jk. It is really cute though
im always panicing thinking i wont look female to everyone when ive taken my hormones and such
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 12:59:46 PM
im always panicing thinking i wont look female to everyone when ive taken my hormones and such
I do too, but I really don't think you should panic. hormones will work wonders for you. You have beautiful hair, great style, and a really feminine face. once you get a few months on hormones you will be an absolute stunner!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 01:08:00 PM
I do too, but I really don't think you should panic. hormones will work wonders for you. You have beautiful hair, great style, and a really feminine face. once you get a few months on hormones you will be an absolute stunner!
hehe i do hope so , and when and if i am i hope my mum and others around me will finally accept me
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 01:13:14 PM
hehe i do hope so , and when and if i am i hope my mum and others around me will finally accept me
im sorry about your mom... :(
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 02:04:55 PM
im sorry about your mom... :(
its complicated in a way my mum and dad say they understand and accept who i am but they call me by my male name she is always saying my baby boy or he or him and male tags but im never her daughter :(
i talked to her about this and she said she never change how she thinks about me and she keeps hinting out would you not rather stay the way you are not you make a handsome boy >.> even tho it makes me unhappy she would rather me stay this way , i know she loves me but i need that support she isent giving to be truly accepted to be her daughter and not have to hide away in my room if i am dressed female or have to sneak out so knowone says anything ,
my dad says he accepts it but he dousent want to see any of it so basicly i have to hide away like before i told them :/
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 02:41:49 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
its complicated in a way my mum and dad say they understand and accept who i am but they call me by my male name she is always saying my baby boy or he or him and male tags but im never her daughter :(
i talked to her about this and she said she never change how she thinks about me and she keeps hinting out would you not rather stay the way you are not you make a handsome boy >.> even tho it makes me unhappy she would rather me stay this way , i know she loves me but i need that support she isent giving to be truly accepted to be her daughter and not have to hide away in my room if i am dressed female or have to sneak out so knowone says anything ,
my dad says he accepts it but he dousent want to see any of it so basicly i have to hide away like before i told them :/
that sucks!
remember that things change and so do people. they may recognize you as you someday. things take time.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:03:40 PM
yer i know i just hope to hear one day that i am her daughter
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Post by: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:37:44 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
do i pass ? :) even tho this pic is a fair few month old and my hair its rally long now and down my back
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
Definitely you pass, at least based on the photo.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:37:44 PMi have a few more good once if you would like to see them ?
Definitely you pass, at least based on the photo.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Post by: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:40:57 PM
Quote from: amber roskamp on November 14, 2014, 08:35:14 PM
alright here I go again.
still pre-everything.
do I pass in this pic?
Yes. You pass in the pic.
But at bright daytime, you may need to hide the mustache area. If you do not have any plan of laser treatment, you may use very sharp tweezers to pluck up the hairs near your upper lip. It takes time, but is worth it.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on November 15, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
Post by: Kimberley Beauregard on November 15, 2014, 03:42:37 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 11:12:50 AM
do i pass ? :) even tho this pic is a fair few month old and my hair its rally long now and down my back
https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0 (https://www.dropbox.com/s/nqaofpyd4m6sizo/DSCF0110.JPG?dl=0)
You pass alright!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:53:09 PM
Quote from: Kimberley Beauregard on November 15, 2014, 03:42:37 PMhehe
You pass alright!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 03:53:27 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 02:19:50 PM
its complicated in a way my mum and dad say they understand and accept who i am but they call me by my male name she is always saying my baby boy or he or him and male tags but im never her daughter :(
i talked to her about this and she said she never change how she thinks about me and she keeps hinting out would you not rather stay the way you are not you make a handsome boy >.> even tho it makes me unhappy she would rather me stay this way , i know she loves me but i need that support she isent giving to be truly accepted to be her daughter and not have to hide away in my room if i am dressed female or have to sneak out so knowone says anything ,
my dad says he accepts it but he dousent want to see any of it so basicly i have to hide away like before i told them :/
I believe I'm about to be in the same situation. As i type this I'm laying on the floor in my packed up living room taking a break from loading my things into the U-haul. i'm moving home to ohio from texas. I already told my mom over skype. She seems happy.. Strangely happy. She hasnt called me "she" or any of the above..
My version of your problem is going to be with my dad. I know he will ask to not have to see me as myself. I dont feel your pain yet.. But I'm going to.
I guess my biggest concern is when i go full time and start looking really femme (breasts, butt, facial surgery)... How will we ever hide that?? I see so much irony in someday bein a girl trying to be a guy haha
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 15, 2014, 04:07:33 PM
Quote from: barbie on November 15, 2014, 03:40:57 PMIm going to have lasers done. I was supposed to have my consultation today but they cancelled on me.
Yes. You pass in the pic.
But at bright daytime, you may need to hide the mustache area. If you do not have any plan of laser treatment, you may use very sharp tweezers to pluck up the hairs near your upper lip. It takes time, but is worth it.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 04:09:10 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 04:09:10 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 03:40:34 PM
i have a few more good once if you would like to see them ?
I'd love to see them, you're very pretty :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:14:51 PM
Quote from: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 03:53:27 PMyer i see what your saying , wether they see me one day as a girl wont change but i wont hide myself at that point ether i want them to accept it but to me its not required for them to i am who i am and i just hope they see the real me
I believe I'm about to be in the same situation. As i type this I'm laying on the floor in my packed up living room taking a break from loading my things into the U-haul. i'm moving home to ohio from texas. I already told my mom over skype. She seems happy.. Strangely happy. She hasnt called me "she" or any of the above..
My version of your problem is going to be with my dad. I know he will ask to not have to see me as myself. I dont feel your pain yet.. But I'm going to.
I guess my biggest concern is when i go full time and start looking really femme (breasts, butt, facial surgery)... How will we ever hide that?? I see so much irony in someday bein a girl trying to be a guy haha
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
Quote from: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 04:09:10 PMhehe
I'd love to see them, you're very pretty :)
https://www.dropbox.com/s/le62y0uu50o2dcv/DSCF0116.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6mwxryiwyw1p0e/DSCF0135.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6er0t3yvue4xbzw/picture011portrait.jpg?dl=0
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: TSJasmine on November 15, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Post by: TSJasmine on November 15, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
hehe
https://www.dropbox.com/s/le62y0uu50o2dcv/DSCF0116.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6mwxryiwyw1p0e/DSCF0135.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6er0t3yvue4xbzw/picture011portrait.jpg?dl=0
You already look like a girl! When you start hormones you're going to be very passable :) Good luck!
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 05:07:36 PM
Quote from: TSJasmine on November 15, 2014, 04:23:09 PM
You already look like a girl! When you start hormones you're going to be very passable :) Good luck!
hehe ty
X
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 06:34:26 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 06:34:26 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 04:16:07 PM
hehe
https://www.dropbox.com/s/le62y0uu50o2dcv/DSCF0116.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/i6mwxryiwyw1p0e/DSCF0135.JPG?dl=0
https://www.dropbox.com/s/6er0t3yvue4xbzw/picture011portrait.jpg?dl=0
Wow hun. You're gorgeous. The first pic is amazing :) you totaly pass in the pics. Have you worked on your voice much? Mannerisms?
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 06:42:53 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 15, 2014, 06:42:53 PM
Quote from: Rotika on November 15, 2014, 06:34:26 PMthat is the bit i am struggling with , i duno what Technics to use and what's best , also with mannerisms im not sure what i need changing the only girls i know are my mum she is verry tomboy and my girlfriend who is also tomboy soo i duno how to properly act how i should :/
Wow hun. You're gorgeous. The first pic is amazing :) you totaly pass in the pics. Have you worked on your voice much? Mannerisms?
Title: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Summer on November 15, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Post by: Summer on November 15, 2014, 11:59:43 PM
Okay this is a first for me posting a pic so here goes . 4 months hrt I def have a long way to go but you know what I feel amazing.(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1293.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fb591%2Fmjdsk8ter%2FMobile%2520Uploads%2F2014-11%2F38A6DF7B-6DB4-476F-A64A-0C908BF314A9_zpsxw0omhu9.jpg&hash=cb79d79852230686a2f063bba10566973a88cfda) (http://s1293.photobucket.com/user/mjdsk8ter/media/Mobile%20Uploads/2014-11/38A6DF7B-6DB4-476F-A64A-0C908BF314A9_zpsxw0omhu9.jpg.html)
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
Post by: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
You look lovely summer :) have you tried wearing a dress with capped shoulders? They can be really flattering :)
Here's me... In cold day mode
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FFA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg&hash=c65db3708fbe8d5faa986e5483ec9f73684c9b0b) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/FA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg.html)
Here's me in no makeup half asleep, worried about what I look like mode..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FFBA10D0C-18A4-42D8-8788-513D56BF5C54_zpsyts7mrjj.jpg&hash=489205dfcb39def0c3abfed598c4d21217379895) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/FBA10D0C-18A4-42D8-8788-513D56BF5C54_zpsyts7mrjj.jpg.html)
do I pass...?
And Saiya
"i duno how to properly act how i should :/"
Just be you, don't act like anything other than who you are.
Here's me... In cold day mode
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FFA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg&hash=c65db3708fbe8d5faa986e5483ec9f73684c9b0b) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/FA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg.html)
Here's me in no makeup half asleep, worried about what I look like mode..
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FFBA10D0C-18A4-42D8-8788-513D56BF5C54_zpsyts7mrjj.jpg&hash=489205dfcb39def0c3abfed598c4d21217379895) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/FBA10D0C-18A4-42D8-8788-513D56BF5C54_zpsyts7mrjj.jpg.html)
do I pass...?
And Saiya
"i duno how to properly act how i should :/"
Just be you, don't act like anything other than who you are.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Summer on November 16, 2014, 07:45:53 AM
Post by: Summer on November 16, 2014, 07:45:53 AM
no haven't tried yet next shopping adventure will see if I can find a cute one:)
You def pass even in waking up mode. Love the pink hair too xx
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You def pass even in waking up mode. Love the pink hair too xx
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Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Brenda E on November 16, 2014, 08:26:25 AM
Post by: Brenda E on November 16, 2014, 08:26:25 AM
Quote from: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
(https://www.susans.org/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1254.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fhh619%2Fnataliespictures1%2FFA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg&hash=c65db3708fbe8d5faa986e5483ec9f73684c9b0b) (http://s1254.photobucket.com/user/nataliespictures1/media/FA760E37-8544-4419-B84B-E28F0A7AD6C4_zps0pyl1uu9.jpg.html)
A stunning sneer!
(You're posting in the wrong thread too. You clearly belong in "You Look Fabulous, Darling!" ;))
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
Quote from: Isabelle on November 16, 2014, 07:40:13 AM
And Saiya
"i duno how to properly act how i should :/"
Just be you, don't act like anything other than who you are.
When someone (personal experience) has gone the last 20 years (assuming they knew something was wrong at the age of 7-8) hiding a secret. How are they supposed to act loke themselves and pass? I went so long thinking I'd never do anything about the real me.. That I only know how to act like a man. It started out as a mask. But now it's me. I feel like i spent too much time undercover and got sucked in. Ive always hated the way i look in boymode.. When i look in the mirror now as a girl I actualy smile and love it. I cant believe i can be this girl. But I dont know how to act like her. I learned how to do my makeup.. Style my brows.. To look like I would want to if I had been doing this my whole life.
My point is that if you only know how to act like a guy.. I really doubt youre going to pass. Being a girl isnt something most of us just did natural.. We had to work on it a bit. We had to figure out if we were going to snap our fingers or talk with a hand on our hip.. Lol
Be yourself, yes, but also find yourself. Transition is change. So transition to the girl you know you are; however you can darlin.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
i know sertin ways to be more fem but as you said ive acted as a guy for soooooo long i duno how els to act so it will take me a wile to get out of that.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
Quote from: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 11:53:04 AM
When someone (personal experience) has gone the last 20 years (assuming they knew something was wrong at the age of 7-8) hiding a secret. How are they supposed to act loke themselves and pass? I went so long thinking I'd never do anything about the real me.. That I only know how to act like a man. It started out as a mask. But now it's me. I feel like i spent too much time undercover and got sucked in. Ive always hated the way i look in boymode.. When i look in the mirror now as a girl I actualy smile and love it. I cant believe i can be this girl. But I dont know how to act like her. I learned how to do my makeup.. Style my brows.. To look like I would want to if I had been doing this my whole life.
My point is that if you only know how to act like a guy.. I really doubt youre going to pass. Being a girl isnt something most of us just did natural.. We had to work on it a bit. We had to figure out if we were going to snap our fingers or talk with a hand on our hip.. Lol
Be yourself, yes, but also find yourself. Transition is change. So transition to the girl you know you are; however you can darlin.
I don't think there is such thing as "acting like a woman/man". I dunno maybe it's just me fighting against gender norms that I feel are extremely oppressive towards myself and other women. Personally I have always seen myself as feminine, even though I was very unsure of my gender. I still do lots of things that people consider "boy things" ie: skateboarding, playing punk rock music, climbing trees and other stuff, and many other things. I however, think that it is stupid and ignorant to call them boy things. It's like when my therapist asked me if "I had to go into 'boy-mode' to solve or resolve problems (by asserting myself or finding a solution)." I told her "NO WAY! Women are way stronger than any man!" I don't think I was ever in "boy-mode" just male presenting and very insecure about it since I didn't feel I fit in with boys (even while doing the things they did). Never been more secure about myself since going full time, months before I could even start HRT, and it just gets better for me since starting HRT :)
I think no matter how you present as far as the way you act is irrelevant. You are a woman and know you are, so rock it girl! People will feel your confidence :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 12:38:37 PM
Post by: amber roskamp on November 16, 2014, 12:38:37 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 12:08:44 PM
i know sertin ways to be more fem but as you said ive acted as a guy for soooooo long i duno how els to act so it will take me a wile to get out of that.
for me i kinda soul searched and figured out what movements/manner of speech i used to get called a (excuse my language) a ->-bleeped-<-, fairy, or a queer for. I stopped doing these things because i was getting bullied by both my friends and family even though they were my natural manner of doing things.
I would get picked on for how i walked because i bounced a lot so my brother would call me a fairy. i was very feminine with my hand motions and my friends would be like oh you must be gay(like that's even a diss wtf). I am very soft spoken and my manner of speech is very much like a very unemotional snarky girl (unfortunately its too deep for it to be recognized as female), so i remember my friends from my football team in high school were like trying to get me to talk like a guy. i really tried to fit in but it wasn't the most successful thing i have tried.
So i have the advantage that i know what is feminine and what isn't, but i have a hurdle to get over because me trying to be more masculine was kind of a wall that i built to protect me from being bullied. when ever i get over a hurdle i feel really good up about it until i get to the next one.
If you do not have that same level of repression watch women when your out and about. listen to how they talk, not just there voice but manner of speech and hand motions when they are talking. You can also just watch television and youtube videos and try to focus on female characters and their mannerisms. A lot of cultural norms are based of what is seen as normal in the media so if you want normal female mannerism watch womens mannerisms on television.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
Quote from: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 12:30:09 PM
I don't think there is such thing as "acting like a woman/man". I dunno maybe it's just me fighting against gender norms that I feel are extremely oppressive towards myself and other women. Personally I have always seen myself as feminine, even though I was very unsure of my gender. I still do lots of things that people consider "boy things" ie: skateboarding, playing punk rock music, climbing trees and other stuff, and many other things. I however, think that it is stupid and ignorant to call them boy things. It's like when my therapist asked me if "I had to go into 'boy-mode' to solve or resolve problems (by asserting myself or finding a solution)." I told her "NO WAY! Women are way stronger than any man!" I don't think I was ever in "boy-mode" just male presenting and very insecure about it since I didn't feel I fit in with boys (even while doing the things they did). Never been more secure about myself since going full time, months before I could even start HRT, and it just gets better for me since starting HRT :)
I think no matter how you present as far as the way you act is irrelevant. You are a woman and know you are, so rock it girl! People will feel your confidence :)
I'm a girl with a penis that grew up in a place where if I hadn't "acted" like a guy I wouldve been thrown out of my baptist home. And wouldve had no friends because what I had were religious nutcases. I'm christian.. Buy I'm not judgemental. When you say you dont believe there is auch a thing as acting.. You're basicaly saying my past never existed lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Quote from: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 12:51:08 PM
I'm a girl with a penis that grew up in a place where if I hadn't "acted" like a guy I wouldve been thrown out of my baptist home. And wouldve had no friends because what I had were religious nutcases. I'm christian.. Buy I'm not judgemental. When you say you dont believe there is auch a thing as acting.. You're basicaly saying my past never existed lol
Rotika,
I'm sorry if I came off that way. Invalidation of anyone's identity definitely wasn't my intent and I feel bad that my words have hurt you. I totally feel you on having to act to fit inside a mold that just wasn't meant to be to "fit in" with how others are perceiving us, but we don't need to act anyway to appease anyone, especially once we go full time as the gender we identify with. I mainly mean that from my experience, I have always acted "boyish", but that I also feel like the whole concept of acting like a boy or girl is sexist. I am a strong, beautiful woman and nobody can tell me different. I just want other women to feel that way too :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 01:26:31 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 01:26:31 PM
Quote from: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:06:59 PM
Rotika,
I'm sorry if I came off that way. Invalidation of anyone's identity definitely wasn't my intent and I feel bad that my words have hurt you. I totally feel you on having to act to fit inside a mold that just wasn't meant to be to "fit in" with how others are perceiving us, but we don't need to act anyway to appease anyone, especially once we go full time as the gender we identify with. I mainly mean that from my experience, I have always acted "boyish", but that I also feel like the whole concept of acting like a boy or girl is sexist. I am a strong, beautiful woman and nobody can tell me different. I just want other women to feel that way too :)
It's ok, i'm glad you didnt take what i said as mean or hurtful. You are obviously strong. Stronger than most I'd say. And stronger than i am at the moment. Once I figure out who i am i hope to be more like you :)
All of the sudden it's ok to decide what color nail polish i like.. So i dont know what to be confident about yet. Lol
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 01:46:44 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 01:46:44 PM
dont the hormones help with the voice part
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 01:51:31 PM
Post by: Rotika on November 16, 2014, 01:51:31 PM
From the research I've done.. It doesn't. Hormones cant alter the strings in your voicebox. Idk though for sure since I'm not on hrt.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:53:10 PM
Post by: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:53:10 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 01:46:44 PM
dont the hormones help with the voice part
Not from my experience. Lots of practice does though! Even pre HRT :)
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
Post by: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
Quote from: JustASeq on November 16, 2014, 01:53:10 PM
Not from my experience. Lots of practice does though! Even pre HRT :)
i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: barbie on November 16, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
Post by: barbie on November 16, 2014, 02:54:19 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 02:14:46 PM
i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice
Yes. The doctor said to me that my voice can be feminized by HRT. I guess its degree of effect differs by person.
barbie~~
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Jessika on November 16, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Post by: Jessika on November 16, 2014, 03:27:53 PM
Quote from: SaiyaDarkfire on November 16, 2014, 02:14:46 PMhttp://www.slideshare.net/Maxisurgeon/hormone-replacement-therapy-for-transgenders-dos-and-donts-6073898 (http://www.slideshare.net/Maxisurgeon/hormone-replacement-therapy-for-transgenders-dos-and-donts-6073898) Go to Slide 26.
i watched a vid on somone that takes about her transision and stuff she said she never practiced and the hormones made most of the change to her voice
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: Seras on November 16, 2014, 04:53:42 PM
Post by: Seras on November 16, 2014, 04:53:42 PM
Even if it helps a little bit it is *you* that has to do most of the hard work when it comes to voice. Go head down to the voice section or check out ->-bleeped-<- where there is some super useful stuff.
Title: Re: Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 3.0
Post by: V M on November 16, 2014, 05:24:05 PM
Post by: V M on November 16, 2014, 05:24:05 PM
Hi friends :)
Time for the New Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 4.0 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,177846.new.html#new)
Time for the New Do I Look, or Could I Pass, as Female? 4.0 (https://www.susans.org/forums/index.php/topic,177846.new.html#new)