Community Conversation => Transitioning => Passing => Topic started by: PjGrey on April 21, 2014, 06:57:26 PM Return to Full Version
Title: What more can I do?
Post by: PjGrey on April 21, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
Post by: PjGrey on April 21, 2014, 06:57:26 PM
So, for clarity's sake, I'm not full-time. I dress femininely as much as possible, but work prevents me from doing so all the time (mostly just for practicality's sake--I can't work with makeup). As far as identification, I identify as androgynous, but my aesthetic is to look as female/feminine as possible without having the appearance of breasts. That may change in time, because I'm not yet sure if I want to choose to ultimately transition.
In any case, this is my problem. I feel as if I've done everything in my power that I can to pass, and I still fail. Body wise, this doesn't bother me, but my face does.
I am skilled with makeup, wear wigs (since I mistakenly cut my hair) and dress well, I think, but is there anything else I can do to improve my appearance short of hormones or FFS. Eventually I will have FFS, but for now I'm limited in money (FFS will cost me 18 k, from what I've been quoted).
Here are my photos:
http://tinypic.com/r/2hp0taq/8
http://tinypic.com/r/20z182f/8
http://tinypic.com/r/icmkbd/8.
http://tinypic.com/r/25ggodz/8.
Sorry for the sideways photographs. I can't for the life pf me get them to upload properly.
In any case, this is my problem. I feel as if I've done everything in my power that I can to pass, and I still fail. Body wise, this doesn't bother me, but my face does.
I am skilled with makeup, wear wigs (since I mistakenly cut my hair) and dress well, I think, but is there anything else I can do to improve my appearance short of hormones or FFS. Eventually I will have FFS, but for now I'm limited in money (FFS will cost me 18 k, from what I've been quoted).
Here are my photos:
http://tinypic.com/r/2hp0taq/8
http://tinypic.com/r/20z182f/8
http://tinypic.com/r/icmkbd/8.
http://tinypic.com/r/25ggodz/8.
Sorry for the sideways photographs. I can't for the life pf me get them to upload properly.
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: JayDawg on May 01, 2014, 10:00:02 PM
Post by: JayDawg on May 01, 2014, 10:00:02 PM
PjGrey, you're gorgeous! Beautiful! I don't think you need to do a thing differently with hair or make-up. You totally pass in those pictures, so if you're not passing in person, all I can think is body language, mannerisms, or voice?
-Jay
-Jay
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: Ms Grace on May 01, 2014, 11:18:34 PM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 01, 2014, 11:18:34 PM
I presume you mean you're having trouble passing when you can't wear makeup or the wig? I can't imagine how you don't pass, at least from those photos, but it might be that without makeup it's a different story. Do you have a very deep voice?
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: Jennygirl on May 02, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
Post by: Jennygirl on May 02, 2014, 04:23:32 AM
Is there a specific kind of situation that you find yourself having the most trouble? You are beautiful!
I only ask about specific situations because maybe you are drawing more attention to yourself with the makeup. A softer more natural look for during the day might help you out. Sometimes when people wear a lot of makeup during the day it can give the impression that they are hiding something.
Try this google image search (https://www.google.com/search?q=natural+day+look&es_sm=91&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=cWNjU-SkH9DaoAS6-4LwDw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1410&bih=1264) for some examples of what I mean.
For going out at night you probably have zero issues as is, yes?
I only ask about specific situations because maybe you are drawing more attention to yourself with the makeup. A softer more natural look for during the day might help you out. Sometimes when people wear a lot of makeup during the day it can give the impression that they are hiding something.
Try this google image search (https://www.google.com/search?q=natural+day+look&es_sm=91&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=cWNjU-SkH9DaoAS6-4LwDw&ved=0CCoQsAQ&biw=1410&bih=1264) for some examples of what I mean.
For going out at night you probably have zero issues as is, yes?
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on May 02, 2014, 05:09:11 AM
Post by: androgynouspainter26 on May 02, 2014, 05:09:11 AM
I'd recommend thinning your eyebrows a bit-they don't make you look male, but they do draw attention to more masculine parts of the face-the picture in which you pass flawlessly is the fourth one, where your brows are covered...and I agree with everyone else, reducing the lip makeup a bit would also go a long way.
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: Emily1996 on June 08, 2014, 12:05:16 AM
Post by: Emily1996 on June 08, 2014, 12:05:16 AM
Oh my gosh you look beautiful I wish I had such a hard time passing loool and those wigs are amazing lol no but really besides the fact that those seems to me all night looks you dont really seem to have a hard time passing...
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 08, 2014, 12:11:03 AM
Post by: FalseHybridPrincess on June 08, 2014, 12:11:03 AM
impressive
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: Umiko on June 08, 2014, 12:12:57 AM
Post by: Umiko on June 08, 2014, 12:12:57 AM
i'm speechless to think you cant pass lol
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: lala on June 26, 2014, 09:28:57 PM
Post by: lala on June 26, 2014, 09:28:57 PM
You're so pretty in the 4th picture.
Title: Re: What more can I do?
Post by: PrincessPatience on September 22, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
Post by: PrincessPatience on September 22, 2014, 10:42:48 AM
Just tone down the makeup a little bit for day time and invest in a human hair wig. Other than that you look beautiful.