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Aside from my brain being male, there are quite a few things about my body that seem male to me already, though I have never taken T.

I have hair on my chest, stomach, feet, fingers, even a little on my butt. I was able to grow facial hair since puberty as well. I have short eyelashes. My mom has implied that my legs (especially my calves) are masculinely shaped. I'm pretty sure my skin is more oily than the average female. I feel like my face overall has a masculine look about it. Things like that.

It makes me wonder, could it mean anything in regards to my trans status? I doubt it, but could it be a sign that I could be intersexed or something?

Quote from: CandyCaneTie on April 30, 2014, 01:55:43 PM
It makes me wonder, could it mean anything in regards to my trans status? I doubt it, but could it be a sign that I could be intersexed or something?

You'd have to get testing to confirm or deny being intersex, but being hairy doesn't really mean anything.  It could there because of multiple reasons.  The same goes with everything you describe. 

I had most of  the factors you mentioned when I was pre-T ) and I think it could just be related to genetics. Although I too wonder how I can know if I am intersex or not. Is it a simple test like  a blood test?

Men have longer eyelashes than women.
Also, do you shave and behave like it is expected of females in our society? Because I think having those hairs on the stomach and some in the face is more common in women than you might think. Women just make sure no one will ever see them ;) Same with body odors and oily skin. Females tend to take care of those things.
Of course, it doesn't mean you can't be intersexed. You could also have more T in your system than a normal female bodied person. It would be worth checking if you'd like to know.

Both men and women have some body hair, men's is just more tough and courser than womens

Quote from: makipu on April 30, 2014, 03:02:00 PM
I had most of  the factors you mentioned when I was pre-T ) and I think it could just be related to genetics. Although I too wonder how I can know if I am intersex or not. Is it a simple test like  a blood test?

No, I'd say it's probably very complex to figure this out. You might take a look, not trying to get rid of you, but there is an intersex forum here.

--Jay

I wouldn't put any stock in it. Everyone is different and sometimes those things that make them different are characteristic of the opposite sex. There are just as many men out there with wide hips and soft skin as there are women with heavy body hair and stronger body scent.

What nationality are you? As someone who is both Greek and Italian I've noticed that my body hair has always been a lot thicker and darker than other bio females, but I know this is due to genetics and nothing like a high t level or being born intersex. There are many different factors that can contribute to what you've posted.

Yeah, I figured it probably didn't mean much, but like a lot of people, I think it would be easier if I -was- intersexed...at least, when it comes to explaining to people. Unfortunately, they are more likely to give legitimacy to something like that. Or being able to say that I have always had higher levels of testosterone in my brain -and- body (which possibly is true, I don't know?) to partly explain.

I don't know, it's also strange...I kind of feel like, yeah, I have boobs and a vagina, but there are obviously these other things about my body and face that are more masculine than feminine. When I figured out I was trans, it was of course mostly about my identity and brain, but I also felt like my body made more sense as male as well. If that makes sense. Probably not wording it right.

One way or another, I'm glad I have them. I'm not 100% sure if I want to get T yet, so already having some of these traits will make it easier to pass and just feel physically masculine in general.

From personal experience, telling doubters you already have high testosterone to validate your claims will probably backfire. They're more likely to say you only feel that way because you have a hormonal imbalance.

Ah, good point. I hadn't thought of that. Though if someone grew up and developed with higher level of T their entire lives and identified as male, personally, I think it would seem more disruptive and damaging to suddenly try to make them estrogen-dominant or whatever. But maybe I just don't know enough about it.

Is that even possible though? Could I, or anyone, have a hormonal imbalance that would cause them to feel trans?

Anyway, there's probably no explanation out there that would satisfy anyone anyway. People will probably always have some claim against it. :/

I mean it could mean something, I questioned that myself for the simple fact that I do have an adams apple already and it's clear to see, My voice is not high what so ever and the fact that I'm very veiny in my arms and hands and they pop out even my cousin noticed it and the fact that my shoulders are broader and I'm also very hairy, but I have told people that its possible that my T levels are alittle higher than normal and they though it made alot more since but I'm not sure if it could affect ones feeling of being trans I think that is soely based on your brain structure which is kinda the reason for being trans.

Yea I never did much of the plucking and shaving besides my legs and under arms and I was a pretty hairy person though even before T happy trail and all. Hair so far is just getting darker with T though haha

I think there is such a think as a masculine looking gene for women, gives them that more male sided edge but it's pretty much 85% genes that contribute to that. The other percentage left over is intersexed and higher T related stuff.

I don't think anyone really knows how hairy they are until they've seen a lot of females who don't shave.  I thought I was a pretty hairy person until I saw my friend's girlfriend's legs when she'd not been bothered to shave for a couple of months.  She had hairier legs than a lot of cis guys that I know, and she's a cis female.

I think some people are more masculine than others, both cis and trans, female and male, and there's a huge variation of what fits into the "normal" range.  More masculine appearing females would be trying to counteract that masculinity most of the time and so we probably don't see the hair or the oily skin (make-up).  Maybe you are intersexed or something, but it's tricky to diagnose, we're not doctors and we can't see you.