Community Conversation => Non-binary talk => Topic started by: Emerald on May 03, 2014, 01:31:21 AM Return to Full Version
Title: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: Emerald on May 03, 2014, 01:31:21 AM
Post by: Emerald on May 03, 2014, 01:31:21 AM
"Gender roles gain their power from the fact that they appear natural and eternal. By looking to the past, we can draw aside this veil and see these categories for what they are--made by people, and able to be changed by people."
http://www.alternet.org/when-women-wanted-sex-much-more-men?paging=off
http://www.alternet.org/when-women-wanted-sex-much-more-men?paging=off
Title: Re: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: Kaelin on May 03, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
Post by: Kaelin on May 03, 2014, 12:10:09 PM
While the article generally makes the case, it seems to come up short in stating what needs to be accomplished: the destruction of gender roles to enable an earnest discussion of merit that applies across genders. If something is intrinsically good/bad for one gender, it should be the same for another.
Title: Re: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: suzifrommd on May 04, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
Post by: suzifrommd on May 04, 2014, 05:13:14 PM
In my experience, female hormones made sex less important to me than male hormones had. I'm not sure why the author starts with the assumption that that couldn't possibly be the case.
Title: Re: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: Nero on May 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
Post by: Nero on May 04, 2014, 06:04:43 PM
I think this ancient stereotype comes from the insatiable vagina. It is, in a way. A woman can go on and on, while men are limited to what their biology can handle.
And as far as the puritans concerned about the poor wife deprived of sex - well, from a female bodied point of view orgasms are important. They relieve pain and other issues with female innards. Also seem to help 'flush out' left over menstrual fluid. As gross as that sounds. :laugh: Women are more prone to cramps and migraines which orgasms help relieve.
And as far as the puritans concerned about the poor wife deprived of sex - well, from a female bodied point of view orgasms are important. They relieve pain and other issues with female innards. Also seem to help 'flush out' left over menstrual fluid. As gross as that sounds. :laugh: Women are more prone to cramps and migraines which orgasms help relieve.
Title: Re: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: Asche on May 04, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
Post by: Asche on May 04, 2014, 08:18:29 PM
Quote from: suzifrommd on May 04, 2014, 05:13:14 PMThe author is talking about tropes -- stuff people assume is true regardless of any personal experiences to the contrary. These tropes don't need to have anything to do with reality, thus a fortiore don't need to have anything to do with hormones.
In my experience, female hormones made sex less important to me than male hormones had. I'm not sure why the author starts with the assumption that that couldn't possibly be the case.
However, since people on the whole tend to act the way they are told they are going to act, I would expect that these tropes would affect how much women believe they need sex. (Not to be confused with how much they actually need sex.)
Title: Re: Enlightening article on gender stereotypes and gender roles.
Post by: mm on May 05, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
Post by: mm on May 05, 2014, 10:40:12 AM
I have that about orgasms for women, FA, and that could be part of my problem every month. Through the week after shark week is usually a great week for me.