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I am struggling with middle-age weight gain for the first time in my life due to an injury.

It's psychologically debillitating.

Anybody ever feel frustrated or angry about their fat quotient?

For a former anorexic, I don't whether to be angry or proud?

Poll is anonymous. Dig in.

I always feel fat. Thanks for reminding me  >:(

Wow 50 pounds since october I only lost 20 pounds.
You probably lost a lot of muscle mass too, not so good.
Don't reduce you weight too much Tink.

I feel fatter than I am... I've been told I'm fairly slim, but meh~ I guess I'm a normal healthy weight, but I used to be visibly overweight. Self-consciousness about my weight has followed me into my healthier days.

I also only eat maybe half as much as I once did, and some of the greasy, fatty foods I used to eat now make me queasy. Can't say that I really miss them either.

Right now I feel alittle fat...  I have alittle belly fat where there was none before... and it sucks... Overall I look good accept for that one spot... and that one spot took me from wearing sizes 3-5 to wearing sizes 5-7....  Its just really frustrating when you have to aquire new cloths because of a few stupid inches  :(

I work on Body Mass Index (BMI)

That way I am not fat, just to short for my current weight. If I grow 6 inches I will be fine, so I am working on that!

Buffy

QuoteWho's "Twiggy"?

Someone is itching for a compliment. Or are you auditioning to be my padawan? Come over to the dark side Kiera. I will show the way to power and we will rule this universe. Ah hahahah!

QuoteRight now I feel alittle fat...  I have alittle belly fat where there was none before... and it sucks... Overall I look good accept for that one spot... and that one spot took me from wearing sizes 3-5 to wearing sizes 5-7....  Its just really frustrating when you have to aquire new cloths because of a few stupid inches 

Damn girl. GID ain't your biggest problem if YOU think you look fat. No way.

QuoteThank you Keira.  Yeah, I shouldn't do what I do, but I can't help it.  I am getting used to not eating.  Probably my stomach is shrinking or something...anyway...

Well, part of the reason is obvious, but you better PM me if this gets outta hand. You know what happened to me. Don't be like me.

What would 129lbs with a height of 5'9" qualify as?

I often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

That's Twiggy. Obviously, umm, thin and unless you've got a very thin frame like she had (look at the size of her minuscule kneecaps, her frame was very light) its a look impossible to emulate in a healthy way (her nickname comes from her early teenage years so she does not look anorexic like current models that try to emulate her). Notice that even though she's thin, she doesn't look really bony, there's still some fat on her.

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QuoteDo you feel fat?

yes.  and eating this tub of sugar is helping.

QuoteI often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

Tay, that's how it starts. Once it gathers steam, there is no stopping it. If this continues, please talk to someone. It almost killed me. Seriously. Do not fool around with that disease.

Quote from: AshleyMichelle on July 22, 2007, 03:23:59 PM

Quote from: Rebis on July 22, 2007, 03:21:07 PM

QuoteDo you feel fat?

yes.  and eating this tub of sugar is helping.

put some chocolate on it!

I just finished it, but next time, I will follow your advice.  for chocolate is a sacred sacrament and be must eaten as often as we take in oxygen.

Quote from: Keira on July 22, 2007, 02:48:45 PM
That's Twiggy.
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...and that's very dangerous indeed.  I'm 5'7''.  I look thin but nothing like the above picture.  IOW, no one can tell that I'm an anorexic yet.  >:D

tink :icon_chick:

Quote from: Thundra on July 22, 2007, 03:35:08 PM

QuoteI often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

Tay, that's how it starts. Once it gathers steam, there is no stopping it. If this continues, please talk to someone. It almost killed me. Seriously. Do not fool around with that disease.

I know.  And I do eat.  Honestly.  I am naturally thin.  I don't mess with my diet to be this thin.  I eat when I'm hungry, which is actually quite often.

The trouble is that my mother spent years telling me (despite my doctor saying I was fine) that if I kept eating the way I did when I was a kid, that when I went away to school, I'd become fat.  I spend a lot of time pinching myself looking for body fat.  Which even as I am doing it, it occurs to me that I shouldn't...

I am a bit podgy. When I finished puberty my body decided that instead of all the massive amounts of energy that went into a impressive growth spurt, leading me from shortest in the class to average, it would bulk me out some, and some more, and some more. I reached fairly ugly proportions, I already have a small head and a large frame, this increased till it looked like it was perched there. I have still slimmed down some and have to wear belts.  :D  I hope that I will not put it on again, because I prefer being slimmer. Though I am actually getting heavy because I am developing a few hefty, arm, back and leg muscles. I like these. They are fun and useful. If I could get a flat tummy, a small waist and a smooth and soft face, it would be ace.

But at the moment I feel fat, but not as fat as I used to be.

Quote from: Tay on July 22, 2007, 04:42:44 PM

Quote from: Thundra on July 22, 2007, 03:35:08 PM

QuoteI often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

Tay, that's how it starts. Once it gathers steam, there is no stopping it. If this continues, please talk to someone. It almost killed me. Seriously. Do not fool around with that disease.

I know.  And I do eat.  Honestly.  I am naturally thin.  I don't mess with my diet to be this thin.  I eat when I'm hungry, which is actually quite often.

The trouble is that my mother spent years telling me (despite my doctor saying I was fine) that if I kept eating the way I did when I was a kid, that when I went away to school, I'd become fat.  I spend a lot of time pinching myself looking for body fat.  Which even as I am doing it, it occurs to me that I shouldn't...

You need to have someone pinch you every time you pinch yourself. This will stop you.

Quote from: AshleyMichelle on July 22, 2007, 05:20:11 PM

Quote from: Rebis on July 22, 2007, 04:48:37 PM

Quote from: Tay on July 22, 2007, 04:42:44 PM

Quote from: Thundra on July 22, 2007, 03:35:08 PM

QuoteI often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

Tay, that's how it starts. Once it gathers steam, there is no stopping it. If this continues, please talk to someone. It almost killed me. Seriously. Do not fool around with that disease.

I know.  And I do eat.  Honestly.  I am naturally thin.  I don't mess with my diet to be this thin.  I eat when I'm hungry, which is actually quite often.

The trouble is that my mother spent years telling me (despite my doctor saying I was fine) that if I kept eating the way I did when I was a kid, that when I went away to school, I'd become fat.  I spend a lot of time pinching myself looking for body fat.  Which even as I am doing it, it occurs to me that I shouldn't...

You need to have someone pinch you every time you pinch yourself. This will stop you.

unless you like being pinched, of course  ;)

Only at certain times and in certain locations, hon.  And by certain people.  Then I LOVE it.

Quote from: Tay on July 22, 2007, 06:02:51 PM

Quote from: AshleyMichelle on July 22, 2007, 05:20:11 PM

Quote from: Rebis on July 22, 2007, 04:48:37 PM

Quote from: Tay on July 22, 2007, 04:42:44 PM

Quote from: Thundra on July 22, 2007, 03:35:08 PM

QuoteI often feel fat.  Which is odd.  I'm at the extreme low-end of healthy (according to the BMI), bordering on underweight and I often feel obese.

Tay, that's how it starts. Once it gathers steam, there is no stopping it. If this continues, please talk to someone. It almost killed me. Seriously. Do not fool around with that disease.

I know.  And I do eat.  Honestly.  I am naturally thin.  I don't mess with my diet to be this thin.  I eat when I'm hungry, which is actually quite often.

The trouble is that my mother spent years telling me (despite my doctor saying I was fine) that if I kept eating the way I did when I was a kid, that when I went away to school, I'd become fat.  I spend a lot of time pinching myself looking for body fat.  Which even as I am doing it, it occurs to me that I shouldn't...

You need to have someone pinch you every time you pinch yourself. This will stop you.

unless you like being pinched, of course  ;)

Only at certain times and in certain locations, hon.  And by certain people.  Then I LOVE it.

very specific

QuoteI'm 5'7''.  I look thin but nothing like the above picture.  IOW, no one can tell that I'm an anorexic yet. 

Girl, you better not joke about that. I know someone that would not be happy if something happened to you.

Tell me something please,

I am trying to discern if what I do is... normal in essence.

Now, for myself my internal 'map' says that I should be about 130lbs but roughly 5'5" or so, obviously I am taller in the waking world but 130lbs is 'right' to me. Now, as such I find I tend to feel 'fat' at 150lbs (I reached that once then blinked and found myself at 130lbs again) I LIKE this weight, and long ago I swore that I would never be fat. ... This is all fine an dandy as far as I know however how I remain like this does not seem proper; I eat once a day, and sometimes I have to force myself to do that. The short form is I feast or famine with the famine being the more normal state. I abhor solid food and quite literally can not think about what I am doing while I am eating else my throat closes off and the rest of the food on my plate rots. I hate that. But, that is what happens.

So, um, might there be any advice out there? Just telling me to 'eat more' is worthless, I am told I need to eat all of the time, it doesn't help, doesn't work, doesn't change a damn thing.

...

I basically really don't know what to do.





Any thoughts are welcome, thank you.

QuoteWhat would 129lbs with a height of 5'9" qualify as?

Anorexic in IMNSHO.

It depends on height, frame size, and age too, but 130# @ 5'9" is way low.
It speaks to the cartoonish image we have of women as promugated in Hollywood.
(i.e. you is fat and ugly if you don't look like this)

They are killing our young women, and even men are becoming susceptible to the disease now in greater numbers.

Now 130# at 5'5" sounds healthier looking, but it depends on exercise and diet too, not just statistics. I think at 5'9", you could weigh around 170# or better depending on your body type, frame size, muscle mass, etc. and still look very healthy.

Our perception of ourself is always different than what other people see. Especially so when we are in the throes of a disease like anorexia. You lose the ability to think rationally.

I know that I am overweight now because I am carrying a paunch for the first time in my life. [No! not the guy from Chips!] It's gross. But back then, I felt that I was fat when I weighed 140#, which was completely irrational. That is a full 80# less than I weigh now. And I eventually went far below 140#.

This is a tipping point that you can reach where you slide from extremely thin to unhealthy. It varies from person to person, but it sounds as if you are targeting it. If you go there, it will kill you. I was lucky, very lucky, to come back. But it affects your body for the rest of your life.

Concentrate more on how healthy you look, rather than how you look wearing this or that. many styles of clothing make everyone look heavy. But, when you are alone and nekid, or with someone and almost nekid, you can see whether you look healthy or not. Anorexic women look skinny, not healthy. And what good is looking skinny if you can't do anything, and nobody wants you?

Quote from: Thundra on July 21, 2007, 01:49:22 PM
I am struggling with middle-age weight gain for the first time in my life due to an injury.

It's psychologically debillitating.

For a former anorexic, I don't whether to be angry or proud?

Just like there is no such thing as a former alchoholic, there is no such thing as a former anorexic.  You had better be careful or you will be sucked into it again.  The number of middle-aged anorexics is growing rapidly.

All right.  Tink, Tay, Thundra, and anybody I missed.  Anorexia is a very ganderous condition.  It has the highest mortality rate of any condition listed in the DSM IV.  All of you, please look into getting help!

Thoundra, 170 at 5 foot 9 is just over the healthy BMI limit of 25 if you've got a normal size female frame (which many TS have); if you've got an above normal frame for female (even more frequent), your under the upper limit.

Going by BMI, 130 at 5 foot 9, is still within healthy weight (18.5 and over) if you've got a normal female frame (with a large female frame, so that would put that weight as underweight then). How big is the wrist circumference?

My wrist is 6.1 for 6 foot, which is a small frame even for a female, so my ideal female weight if I'm not athletic is around 145, about 155-160s if I'm athletic, that's what I'm shooting for.

Th<o>undra, 170 at 5 foot 9 is just over the healthy BMI limit of 25 if you've got a normal size female frame (which many TS have); if you've got an above normal frame for female (even more frequent), your under the upper limit.

Keira, yeah I know, but you have to understand that when you are talking to a "former" anorexic [correct Lisbeth, just like alcoholism], you try not to give a "hard" target, or one that is ridiculously out of reach. So, 170# @ 5'9" is on the low side, but do you realize how much another 10 or 20 pounds looks like to an anorexic? Think Mt. Everest. You gotta try to go as small as possible, and incremental. [Actually, if people transitioning used the same psychology that is taught to recovering anorexics, it would greatly benefit them.]

I am a little better than six feet and a size 14, and I still see myself as "fat." Get the idea?
I know of what I speak. If I didn't have the poncherelli with me, I'd be pretty happy actually.

Yes, I am overweight!!!  I haven't been under 200 lbs since I was in 9th grade. I have tried all the diets and I feel I'm in good shape as far as health goes. I ride a bike in the summer, 17miles a day, never to lose an ounce. I'm 5'9" and I weigh in at between 220 and 230. I still have arms that are quite muscular and they are at 16 inches around and my wrists are 8 inches. I have been on hormones for about 10 years and I'm post-op 3years now. I have lost weight and a lot of muscle, arms use to be 19 inches. I have C-cups but they look like they are A-cups when you look at my body. I wish I was small and petite, but it aint going to happen in my life time.
Sheila

I don't believe in BMI

    Some people's genetic makeup simply defies the BMI and these people are all made to feel bad.  I'm not making excuses for myself.  I'm 5-10 and 186.  I can drop weight in 2 weeks just by walking it off. So, I'm not using my own condition as an excuse to ignore the BMI.
    I just really don't accept it as a standard.  It's a form of terror upon innocent people whose bodies can never be anything other than what they are.

    I'm not advocating for couch potatoism either.  I just believe that if a person treats themself well, that they can be healthy despite what experts tell them.

Hey I have my records from 8th grade and at 13 I was 5 feet 7.5 inches and 117 pounds! 

I think my bathroom scale is broken.  I have gained weight in the past two years (I love juxtaposing 13 and 2 years)  with my assorted after meal mints.  I think they contain fat boosters or something.   By the way I am no longer a waif.  I think I have heavy bones.

Am I the only guy in this poll? *shrug*

Yes, yes yes! I feel fat all the time and nothing helps. OF course, being bulimic and overweight is a nice indicator there...

Groan,

When I was not doing exercise I went from a size 12 skirt to size 16. I brought some jeans in Sydney and now I am worried they will be to loose - I need to loose some weight to fit into my ball dress  ;D.  I am now swimming twice a week to help me burn that awful fat. I hate it when I did not exercise.

Alice

Yes, I've hit a plateau on my weight loss and it's driving me crazy.  7 more pounds to go and then I'll feel about right.

Quote from: Kristi on July 24, 2007, 11:06:51 PM
Yes, I've hit a plateau on my weight loss and it's driving me crazy.  7 more pounds to go and then I'll feel about right.

I got to find some chocolate.  I need to eat some chocolate.

6'/139#.

I'm definitely not anorexic -- I run a lot and I eat a lot.

Voted "I love my body."   :)

im technically obease according to my bmi, but i really dont look it >< im curvey, and dont really have much belly to speakof.i guess im just dense :D

R :police:

Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 01:06:15 AM
im technically obease according to my bmi

Oh yeah, you are really obese, Rachael!  ::) ::) ::)

Get real girl!  ;D

tink :icon_chick:

:P my bmi is 32!!! im obease for my hight :P oh well, i think i have a heart of lead! :P

R :police:

Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 01:18:57 AM
:P my bmi is 32!!! im obease for my hight :P oh well, i think i have a heart of lead! :P

R :police:

Advice: Grow another 12 inches you will be fine, BMI will be spot on < 25 then.

Buffy

i dont want to be 6ft 9!

Quote from: Rachael on August 12, 2007, 04:05:14 AM
i dont want to be 6ft 9!

Just do as you're told.  Why do you have to be so difficult about everything?  >:D

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(I'm joking)

Yes, and the only thing that might help would be to eat something. Chocolate usually makes me feel better  >:D

Z

Quote from: y2gender on August 12, 2007, 02:14:54 PM
Yes, and the only thing that might help would be to eat something. Chocolate usually makes me feel better  >:D

Z

Yes.  Only eating will make us feel better about being fat.  Chocolate.  Crazy ice creams.  baklava.

QuoteYes.  Only eating will make us feel better about being fat.  Chocolate.  Crazy ice creams.  baklava.

And shopping. That'll also make us feel better. I know this is true, because our president told us so. >:D

Zythyra

Quote from: y2gender on August 12, 2007, 02:44:23 PM
And shopping. That'll also make us feel better. I know this is true, because our president told us so. >:D
Zythyra

I agree.  Retail therapy is where the real action is.

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Well, this thread cerrtainly won't keep me from my goal. :-\ When I was in high school, I was 155 and 5' 10". Somehow I'm around 5' 9" and but have made a concious effort and am now 135 and still loosing weight. A few years ago I was "working out" and was around 170, which disgusts me to think about it nowadays. Basically I cut out carbs, eat lots of chicken, meat, fish, pork, etc. I still have broad shoulders which I hate, but I know those will be reduced eventally.

I don't know if it's fat, but I'm feeling something.  >:D

For the most part, I don't feel "fat" per se, but I also don't feel or consider myself skinny either.  I'm just under 170 at 5'9" and I tend to wear my weight well (most people think I weigh a lot less than I do).  My goal is to get down to 150, which is in the healthy range according to weight charts for women of my height.  My face looks better and better as I lose weight, but I also get more and more apprehensive about the weight loss because my adam's apple is starting to show now. :(  I guess I don't really feel fat because I have weighed so much more for a long time.  Back in 2004, I peaked at about 210 and have gradually been going down in weight since then (never recessing to my previous plateaus).  Oddly enough, I don't seem to have lost much strength since then, so I'm not sure what's up with that.  For instance, I know people talk about their bicep size going down to nothing, but as far as I can tell, it's exactly the same size as before HRT. ???

When will the pharma industry invent a wonder fat loss pill....

Quote from: jeanmarie on September 12, 2007, 12:02:12 PM
When will the pharma industry invent a wonder fat loss pill....

They've already done that... several times.  And they're all hazardous to your health.

I know of the pills have tried them all and none work.....

solution: aerobics, running, diet, stopping smokeing etc.
yes it takes effort, but its worth it, im shapeing up quite well now. and the exersise means i dont suffer eating rabbit food for life!
R :police:

According to the BMI I am in the middle of normal. But the BMI doesn't take into account how the weight is distributed. If I could move the excess weight from my waist and move half of it up and the other half down, I would look much better.

I feel very fat I am about 5ft. 10in. tall and I weigh about 175lbs and after reading most of the post on this thread I feel even fatter. but the one thing that helps is I wear between size 5 and size 7 jeans so I'm getting there!

your NOT fat, although lets remember females see themselves as at for EVAR!
im top 190s and 5'9, this shocks most of my friends and peers, becase i really dont look it, i have a lot of hiden muscle, which doesnt bother me, as i use it. but its constantly disheartening to be told im obease by the bmi!
R :police:

Quote from: Rebis on July 21, 2007, 04:29:07 PM

I always feel fat. Thanks for reminding me  >:(

Ditto. Worst thing is, I have to lose 60 lbs before SRS.

Karen Lyn

Quote from: Rachael on September 30, 2007, 04:03:35 PM
your NOT fat, although lets remember females see themselves as at for EVAR!
im top 190s and 5'9, this shocks most of my friends and peers, becase i really dont look it, i have a lot of hiden muscle, which doesnt bother me, as i use it. but its constantly disheartening to be told im obease by the bmi!
R :police:

I have a gut I really need to get rid of (I want a tummy not a gut!) but I have lost alot of weight through walking and staying busy so I don't let it get me down! I don't really care about pounds I just want to be in shape!! thank you for your thoughtfulness!!

Quote from: Lisbeth on September 12, 2007, 03:05:47 PM

Quote from: jeanmarie on September 12, 2007, 12:02:12 PM
When will the pharma industry invent a wonder fat loss pill....

They've already done that... several times.  And they're all hazardous to your health.

Xenical, Tenuate Dospan, Adipex, Meridia....etc, etc, etc.  I agree with Lisbeth though; they are very dangerous to your health; some of them are very addictive, for they work by suppressing the neuro-transmitters on your brain that cause you to have an appetite.  Others interfere with blood pressure, cholesterol and glucose levels; hence, you need to be monitored by a physician and a dietician when taking them...

tink :icon_chick:

What makes you look the most male is visceral fat, to find out if you've got it, stand sideways next to a mirror and just let your stomach go, if you've got little fat, there should be little difference in your profile, if not, you'll look pregnant.

Most TS I've seen have LOTS and lots of visceral fats and should put themselves on strong exercise and dietary regime till the waist to hip ratio goes down below 0.8.

My opinion is that unless your over 45, were having a belly, makes you blend with the post-menauposal women which also have non gynoid fat distribution, getting that fat off helps greatly in pasing.

Whew, I guess being over 50 works in my favor for a change.  ;D

Karen Lyn

QuoteDo you feel fat?

Only when I put my hand to my head.

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Yes I"m a little over weight but that happens when your depressed and not doing as much exercise as before but I still love my body.

Floritine

Fat. Ow yes, i hate it. A bear belly homer simson would b proud of. It is all in my head thou, ive been told i look fine. Im a good uk size 12 but desprate to get down a size or two.

I specifically remember looking at my skinny legs at the age of 16 or 17 and thinking they looked or felt fat. They weren't. But I could feel the 'female' fat under the skin and it drove me nuts and I found it a bit disturbing.

I think that was a part of my gender dysphoria that I didn't realize was gender dysphoria. I was aware of how boys' skin and limbs felt at that age, and they did not feel like mine. There's a different feel and texture to female skin that is thinner and has more fat under it. Even though I wasn't fat I felt like I was wearing a fat suit. (Which technically is sort of true... there is much more body fat on an average female body weight for weight, and usually all located under the skin.)

The T has changed that now, I have different texture skin and the 'female' fat is disappearing from under it. Unfortunately it's deciding to shift off the butt and legs and add itself on my belly, meaning I went from "normal" to having a bit of a stomach suddenly lol. It has to go, and it's taking a lot of exercise to get rid of it. But it still makes me feel bad until it is gone.

At this time of my life: no, not at all. I'm at a healthy weight for my height and I do acknowledge that my stomach isn't flat and that my thighs and butt have some considerable soft roundness to them, while my chest and arms are quite lacking in the fat department. But it doesn't bother me and I feel normal weight. On some days I even feel thin.

However I have struggled with weight issues and eating disorders before, so I used to feel fat at the same weight as I am now, and even at times I weighed less. My weight has bounced around quite a lot over the years, but mostly I've been within the healthy range. This is the first time I'm actually happy with my weight, in the sense that it's just alright with it and it doesn't really matter much.

However I do feel a little bit of an internal stress that I really want to stay within the healthy weight range. But I'm trying not to think about it too much. Being on T didn't change my body shape or fat distribution much at all. I was always still noticably curvy, and it took me forever to eventually become okay with that.

Yeah I feel a bit fat. I'm trying to lose weight but I'm not good at that lately lol
I may wanna do fat transfer to fill my boobs with (very stubborn) fat. That's a dream of mine to have natural fatty breasts lol...

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