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Title: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 17, 2014, 03:37:44 AM
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 17, 2014, 03:37:44 AM
So I told the military I'm transgendered.
You know, before being full-time that would have scared the shit out of me. But the feeling I felt wasn't of fear, but of liberation. I get it now. I understand.
All that was, all his baggage, all his bullshit, all his emotional turmoil is now dead and irrelevant. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful of the life I lived. I don't regret a moment of it. This isn't a dual-personality situation. Rather a situation of one person becoming another.
The difference is I--not the military, not my emotions, not my past, nor my psychological baggage--gets to decide who I am to become.
To put it simply, I am finally the master of my own destiny. I am free; I am free to grow as Melissa and the price that must be paid is everything was. Some things will mold, some things will transfer, but everything was is now dead and gone, and in place of that vacancy is a being of joy, love, compassion, and unlimited power; Melissa.
I finally love who I am, and I don't regret a moment of it.
-AM
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You know, before being full-time that would have scared the shit out of me. But the feeling I felt wasn't of fear, but of liberation. I get it now. I understand.
All that was, all his baggage, all his bullshit, all his emotional turmoil is now dead and irrelevant. Don't get me wrong, I'm thankful of the life I lived. I don't regret a moment of it. This isn't a dual-personality situation. Rather a situation of one person becoming another.
The difference is I--not the military, not my emotions, not my past, nor my psychological baggage--gets to decide who I am to become.
To put it simply, I am finally the master of my own destiny. I am free; I am free to grow as Melissa and the price that must be paid is everything was. Some things will mold, some things will transfer, but everything was is now dead and gone, and in place of that vacancy is a being of joy, love, compassion, and unlimited power; Melissa.
I finally love who I am, and I don't regret a moment of it.
-AM
Mod Edit - Previous name removed as requested
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 03:40:00 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 03:40:00 AM
Well, that's great! Congrats! But what's the military going to do about it now? Is this the US military? Don't they usually discharge people for being trans?
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 17, 2014, 03:57:37 AM
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 17, 2014, 03:57:37 AM
Yup, US navy.
I'll be admistratively discharged, and yes, I'm throwing away a 14 year career.
But happiness in a career < happiness in life.
I'll choose trans over Navy any day of the week. One day maybe trans will be able to serve in the military, until that day, I'll focus on me.
-AM
I'll be admistratively discharged, and yes, I'm throwing away a 14 year career.
But happiness in a career < happiness in life.
I'll choose trans over Navy any day of the week. One day maybe trans will be able to serve in the military, until that day, I'll focus on me.
-AM
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 04:06:28 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 04:06:28 AM
All the best. Some other countries allow their armed forces personnel to transition (Australia, apparently) maybe one day the US will follow suit.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Cindy on May 17, 2014, 04:14:53 AM
Post by: Cindy on May 17, 2014, 04:14:53 AM
Australian armed forces will pay for SRS!
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 04:17:59 AM
Post by: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 04:17:59 AM
Quote from: Cindy on May 17, 2014, 04:14:53 AMThey will? Wonder if it's too late to enlist? I half considered the airforce in 1983...!
Australian armed forces will pay for SRS!
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Sarah leah on May 17, 2014, 05:12:26 AM
Post by: Sarah leah on May 17, 2014, 05:12:26 AM
Lets meet up Monday at the front of the Adelaide enlistment office heh. I will start running the 600kms to get there now!
On a serious note I get to see Dr Lyons next month so worried, and yet excited all at once :)
On a serious note I get to see Dr Lyons next month so worried, and yet excited all at once :)
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Donnagirl on May 17, 2014, 05:16:48 AM
Post by: Donnagirl on May 17, 2014, 05:16:48 AM
I left mid nineties... How the service has changed!!! Would have got you a psych discharge back then.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: E-Brennan on May 17, 2014, 06:46:56 AM
Post by: E-Brennan on May 17, 2014, 06:46:56 AM
All the best, Androgynous_Machine. That was a bold move, but one which I won't try to second guess or Monday Morning quarterback. You know what you're doing.
I don't think you've thrown any career away. You served 14 years! That's a massive sacrifice, especially considering what was going on inside your head. You should be very, very proud of what you've accomplished. And you should be very proud for having the courage to become who you are given the circumstances.
That's the most important thing. :)
I don't think you've thrown any career away. You served 14 years! That's a massive sacrifice, especially considering what was going on inside your head. You should be very, very proud of what you've accomplished. And you should be very proud for having the courage to become who you are given the circumstances.
Quote from: Androgynous_Machine on May 17, 2014, 03:37:44 AMI finally love who I am, and I don't regret a moment of it.
That's the most important thing. :)
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Chloevixen on May 17, 2014, 07:09:40 AM
Post by: Chloevixen on May 17, 2014, 07:09:40 AM
I left the Coast Guard after 13 years, I know there are some level of mixed feelings there 7 years from retirement I hear on occasion but it only bothers me for a microsecond.... well maybe less. I really hope they go easy on you. When the coast guard found out (I was outed I didnt decide to come out) they investigated me. then brought criminal charges (assault and battery for a wet willy, and giving a guy a hug because he needed it).
You will have my prayers that no one else ever has to go through what I did.\
Also welcome to freedom, its the best feeling ever.
You will have my prayers that no one else ever has to go through what I did.\
Also welcome to freedom, its the best feeling ever.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: ~Evelyn~ on May 17, 2014, 07:38:06 AM
Post by: ~Evelyn~ on May 17, 2014, 07:38:06 AM
Quote from: Ms Grace on May 17, 2014, 04:17:59 AM
I half considered the airforce in 1983...!
I'm thinking of joining the airforce too, but I'm not so sure about the outcome. Will they do a background check? And do I have to tell them I was a male? I can't find much online as I don't know where to look.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Bombadil on May 17, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
Post by: Bombadil on May 17, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
I'm glad you are being true to yourself and feeling free.
Did you all know it was in the news a few days ago that the U.S. military has said it's open to reviewing it's ban on transgender folks?
Did you all know it was in the news a few days ago that the U.S. military has said it's open to reviewing it's ban on transgender folks?
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Jess42 on May 17, 2014, 09:13:34 AM
Post by: Jess42 on May 17, 2014, 09:13:34 AM
Quote from: ~Evelyn~ on May 17, 2014, 07:38:06 AM
I'm thinking of joining the airforce too, but I'm not so sure about the outcome. Will they do a background check? And do I have to tell them I was a male? I can't find much online as I don't know where to look.
Oh yeah. I really don't think you will be able to join.
By the way Androgynous_Machine you served for 14 years so you have done more than your part and deserve nothing but happiness.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Tori on May 17, 2014, 09:25:39 AM
Post by: Tori on May 17, 2014, 09:25:39 AM
Wow, A_M, you really took one for the team.
I am proud of you, and I am thankful for your service.
If any future job knows you are trans, they shouldn't care about the discharge.
Hopefully the military does the right thing sooner rather than later so you can get the benefits you deserve.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
That took some big girl pants.
I am proud of you, and I am thankful for your service.
If any future job knows you are trans, they shouldn't care about the discharge.
Hopefully the military does the right thing sooner rather than later so you can get the benefits you deserve.
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
That took some big girl pants.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 17, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 17, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
Sheesh, where would i be right now if I would have did the same thing when I was in the military. How scary. You have real guts!! Good for you.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Jess42 on May 17, 2014, 10:35:06 AM
Post by: Jess42 on May 17, 2014, 10:35:06 AM
Quote from: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 17, 2014, 10:25:09 AM
Sheesh, where would i be right now if I would have did the same thing when I was in the military. How scary. You have real guts!! Good for you.
Amen on that one sister. I only lasted four years and it was killing me and I was scared to death I would be caught. I can only imagine 14 years.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: JadeFla on May 17, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
Post by: JadeFla on May 17, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
I do wish I would have told the Navy when I was in. I did not have the courage then.
I read somewhere the US is doing a study to determine if the military should accept transfolk. I do not have time right now to try to find the story and share it on here.
I read somewhere the US is doing a study to determine if the military should accept transfolk. I do not have time right now to try to find the story and share it on here.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: JessikaBlackMage on May 17, 2014, 04:52:29 PM
Post by: JessikaBlackMage on May 17, 2014, 04:52:29 PM
Quote from: JadeFla on May 17, 2014, 04:45:56 PM
I do wish I would have told the Navy when I was in. I did not have the courage then.
I read somewhere the US is doing a study to determine if the military should accept transfolk. I do not have time right now to try to find the story and share it on here.
It was on MSNBC http://www.msnbc.com/ronan-farrow/watch/will-military-let-transgender-people-serve-255917123880
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: TerriT on May 17, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Post by: TerriT on May 17, 2014, 05:20:44 PM
Thank you for serving, now go live and enjoy life and be happy.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: SophiePeters on May 17, 2014, 05:41:23 PM
Post by: SophiePeters on May 17, 2014, 05:41:23 PM
Congrats! and thanks for serving. If you have a flawless enlistment thus far though. you should get all your enlistment documents and make sure they get into the right hands so someday maybe we all can serve openly. I wish I could of had the strength to hide it for so many years like you, instead of washing myself out after a year for fear of being outed. I do think the world needs to hear more about those who have served honorable giving up transition because of bad policy. You are an inspiration and should make sure people hear your story. Fair winds and following seas shipmate.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: JadeFla on May 17, 2014, 07:19:54 PM
Post by: JadeFla on May 17, 2014, 07:19:54 PM
@ Jessika
Thanks for sharing that.
Slowly the US military is catching up to the 21st century. It is a matter of time before we will be able to serve openly.
Thanks for sharing that.
Slowly the US military is catching up to the 21st century. It is a matter of time before we will be able to serve openly.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Sheala on May 17, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
Post by: Sheala on May 17, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
Congrats Melissa. The VA will do and treat you very well. I was in the US NAVY for 8 years. did not come out trans there but after the VA picked up all my care and treatment. The only thing they wont do..... is anything sergical for your transition.
Again congrats i dont know that i would have had your curage to come out as active. and from what i hear it not long before the trans population is welcome in the military.
Again congrats i dont know that i would have had your curage to come out as active. and from what i hear it not long before the trans population is welcome in the military.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 17, 2014, 10:53:25 PM
Post by: Lara the Lover and the Fighter on May 17, 2014, 10:53:25 PM
Quote from: Sheala on May 17, 2014, 08:15:37 PM
Congrats Melissa. The VA will do and treat you very well. I was in the US NAVY for 8 years. did not come out trans there but after the VA picked up all my care and treatment. The only thing they wont do..... is anything sergical for your transition.
Again congrats i dont know that i would have had your curage to come out as active. and from what i hear it not long before the trans population is welcome in the military.
I second this. The VA has been FANTASTIC!
The military could really benefit from the trans community. Admit it...us trans folks are AWESOME!!
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Tori on May 17, 2014, 11:12:04 PM
Post by: Tori on May 17, 2014, 11:12:04 PM
We are pretty great. And humble.
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 19, 2014, 02:59:21 AM
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 19, 2014, 02:59:21 AM
Quote from: christopher on May 17, 2014, 09:01:53 AM
I'm glad you are being true to yourself and feeling free.
Did you all know it was in the news a few days ago that the U.S. military has said it's open to reviewing it's ban on transgender folks?
Yes they will do a background check and yes, it'll be found out you were born male. The government is exceedingly efficient at few things, among them is background checks which are now standard operating procedure thanks to incidents like the massacre on the Army Base in Texas (Hasan) and the Navy Yard Shooting. It doesn't matter if you are cooking food or fixing ICBM's, you are getting a background check. In that process they will talk with basically everyone you've known at any significant level to include teachers, parents, siblings, other relatives, friends, pastors/priests, counselors, the whole nine yards.
And no, they won't be able to hide behind patient privilege as you must sign a release form basically invalidating it.
I agree with the sentiment that transfolks should be able to serve, I did honorably without a single NJP, court martial, or even as much as showing up late for work--I was late 3 times, all three weather related--for 14 years as trans (obviously not full time, but you get the idea). Unfortunately a few bad apples like Chelsea Manning have left a really bad taste in the Brass's mouth.
I sincerely hope they review and reverse their policy on transfolks serving, many transfolks are healthy, able-bodied souls who have skills absolutely needed by the military. There are transwomen and men who are engineers, physicists, aeronautical engineers, civil engineers, lawyers, doctors, surgeons, dentists, nurses, etc.
You tell me a military that doesn't need that and I'll say you don't have a modern war-fighting machine.
If they reverse their policy I will most certainly will go back in. But I refuse to live a lie and I refuse to serve a military that in no way supports who and what I am.
And thank you for your support everyone, it helped tremendously.
-AM
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 20, 2014, 05:01:11 AM
Post by: Androgynous_Machine on May 20, 2014, 05:01:11 AM
Looks like they move quick, I'll have my admin sep by Friday my Commanding Officer said.
I figured I kicked this can for years, what's another few days right?
-AM
I figured I kicked this can for years, what's another few days right?
-AM
Title: Re: So I told the Military I'm Transgendered.
Post by: Cindy on May 20, 2014, 05:03:58 AM
Post by: Cindy on May 20, 2014, 05:03:58 AM
Hugs Hon,
You are a very brave woman and a credit to the USA Armed services; no matter their policy.
You are a very brave woman and a credit to the USA Armed services; no matter their policy.